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When you’re in a different stage in life, you’re looking for mutual companionship. At that point. You don’t need to do anything extravagant. You’re just both living within your means. But when you’re younger and you’re earning years with young children that you have to support, then you have to prioritize both of you contributing.

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com. And as always, it’s all alleged and just for fun. We do not verify our blinds. V.
And I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tape
Taylor Oh, I just don’t over you because I’m like, so excited to chat with you.
Yeah, there she is. Guys, we’re very excited. Today we have the one the only MJ Mercedes Javeed from Shaz welcome, MJ
you guys are reputed. Hi, I lived Did you know that
name? Totally random. Are you still Mercedes to V?
Yes. No, I’m adding it. I have a I have a beautiful philosophy. I believe we adopted it from Brazilians and maybe Portuguese culture, maybe Spanish culture. Somewhere in there went or Italian culture where you don’t drop your name. You just add each other’s names. So like for example, my son, his name will have my name in it too. Even though his last name is fight. He’s still going to have like, Shams, Francis Javeed fight so that you can trace the family tree trace trace not chase.
I love that idea. My cousin just married and had a baby with an Argentinian man and they gave him both last name. So I think you are right. About that.
I think thank you so much.
I would have done that. I don’t know about it.
I like it honors both families. I like that. Yes.
To me. It’s the only thing that makes sense. It’s the only thing that makes sense. Because it’s it’s not that I don’t respect tradition because I love tradition. And it’s just that I just think it shouldn’t the woman shouldn’t just abandon her line either. Right? You know for So MJ you’re wondering what for for a husband that’s gonna pluck his nose hairs on the couch with the tweezer Come on.
I mean, it couldn’t be more accurate if you try it’s too much. Or cut toenails like
yeah, oh, no. Yes. Do it right there so that it goes into the cracks of the couch because you love to take your manicure and rip it apart by removing those heavy cushions. break a nail and then have to vacuum it you know those little things? Who doesn’t?
That’s hilarious. That is hilarious. Um, Jay, you are one of my all time favorite Bravo labs you
know this.
You started following my OG account. I think I had like 300 followers and I was like, oh my god, MJ from Shah’s is following me. And you were just comment on every store because you’re you are Bravo super fan.
Yes, I think I was the first person who was like bragging about it like, I thought it was cool. I think I made it cool. I think other people followed because a lot of people thought they had to pretend like they don’t even know what a television is, you know? And, and then I think it’s like, I watched MTV hills. I watched, you know, Paris and Nicole’s show. It was like in the Kardashians, like I was someone who only needed the E channel or the Bravo channel to be on my TV. So
you’re one of us. And rather than acting like, Oh, I’m too busy living a fancy life and selling high end Realty, you’re like, No, I do all that. But then I go home and I put on the same reality shows everybody else does. And let’s talk about it.
Yeah, and when the episode ends, I would start it over because I could like no one no one was gonna say you can’t watch it. I would just started over. I would, especially the hills because they were only 30 minutes and once a week I died like we had nothing else to watch.
So we’re gonna get into all the shows. We can even go as far back as the hills if you want. But tell us what you’ve been up to. We know you’re married to Tommy, you’re both busy raising your beautiful son shams. You recently got back into real estate business. What else do we need to know about MJ today?
Today, I want to brag about my husband that is published his first children’s book. That’s not my accomplishment. But you know, I just I just posted it on my Instagram this morning. He wrote a little book. It’s like Shamsa, as the illustrator did like an illustration of shams. And Tommy and me. And it’s called the best hug in the world. So if you love me, which I know you do, because I love you guys even more
I’m sharing so I can go
thank you the best hug in the world.com and we’re just like, What do you not? Yes, it’s going to be available, it is available on that link and, and several places where you can get a book. Awesome. And you know, you can if you thank you because, you know, putting a book out isn’t like the easiest thing it’s like something he’s really proud of. And it’s also connected to his mom’s legacy with like doing something that gives back so you know, we together started Fight Club, which is all the kids that can’t afford to buy books or their parents can’t afford to buy books will sign them up for fight my husband’s last name club. And every month they get books from us that we we pack them ourselves, we pay for the postage, we send them out, you know, he and Tommy like really does all of it on his own. So that’s that had to get that out of the way. But yeah, other than other than being a mother, being a wife and being at the agency, and doing real estate full time. The there’s really nothing else that is happening. That’s important to me, except of course for the podcast till the dirt with Tommy and MJ which we love and enjoy doing. Like, I mean, I really think that, like just connecting with women is what I was meant to do. You know, like in my spare in my spare time. You’re such a you know what I mean? Like when you do your? Yeah, like when you do your lives and like when I go on Jeff Lewis’s show, or whatever I’m doing if I do my Amazons, or, you know, I’m just like a girl that wants to share a bra link or, you know, like a makeup hack, or, you know, like, we were saying earlier, like we both came from F 45. Like, oh, I noticed that if I use this brush, I’ll feel a lot more polished after working out and not being able to, like, you know, like, spend the rest of your day in your workout clothes. Right?
Exactly. So you mentioned the agency, how often do you see Mauricio there
you know what, our office is hot? Like I see him at least once a week at least all of us are in and out you know you’re either you’re showing a house or you’re checking in the office or you’re you know in the field like this week I’ve already seen him a couple of times but it’s not just him like we have a very sexy like our real art our agents are legit very attractive people, men and women.
Are we going to see you on on his reality show?
I don’t think so. I mean, I’m not on I haven’t shot anything there’s you know, so many days where there they are shooting but I just kind of see that as like a no I’m gonna not go to that meeting or I’m not gonna go to that open house or you know, because it’s doesn’t feel for me like, it doesn’t feel right. Because like what I’m up to is doing, like my real life and doing the things that, like, who you guys met and fell in love with was what I’m doing now what I was doing before there was a camera. And then now again, I get to do that, you know, like the real deal MJ like what really makes me feel amazing, you know about as a person not making a TV show, that doesn’t feel like it sits right with me after it airs like the last couple of seasons of Shaw’s. did, you know?
Absolutely. And I think it sounds like, you know, and from following you, like, it’s fun to hear your perspective. It’s, it’s like we’re all cheering you on and like, happy to see the success and really excited to see Tommy’s book, the best hug in the world have success as well. So I think you are, that is one of the things that makes us like you more is that you? Don’t need reality TV to be you. i Yeah, yo without it?
Yes. It’s kind of like Gen lions right now. First season, you know, new era, and you’re seeing the real person, right? I mean, sure. There are certain people that come on TV, and immediately they look like they’re just graduated from like, you know, housewives University and they put on airs, but like this, this person that you’re talking to now me MJ, I am way more meant to after 10 years, I mean, we did shoot like in 2012 or 2011. So I was happy to be on TV for so many years and doing so many things. But all of the things that were the most meaningful were if you look back, it was all women stuff. Like, I didn’t want to get married because career was my priority in life. Then I finally found love, but it was for the right reasons then fertility like I didn’t I spread my legs for a gynecologist to tell me if I had an egg or if I had 100 eggs like no pre produced knowledge like Adam, it was like everything being plus sized and being comfortable in shorts, and, you know, like cut off Levi’s or whatever. Like, all of those things that we look back on are things that made it meaningful to me to be on TV, you know?
I and we saw that we saw how authentic you were and for the most part, especially in the beginning, you guys all had authentic friendships and then we saw towards the end, the struggle because there were a lot of fallouts Do you are you in touch with any of your former Who were you? I know you’re in touch with? Who do you Who do you still? Like legitimately hang with?
I am legitimately in touch with almost everyone. Anyone that I was friends with? Before Shaw’s and friends with because of Shaw’s I’m still friends with So Sammy the OG Yes, Reza Gomez. So even though we recently butt heads and I’m currently mad at her and I don’t want to talk to her for a while, but still always buttheads. I am so mad at her right now. But can you tell us why? No. Because it’s I can’t it would be like an ugly fight that two sisters had over text. Yeah, that was vicious and gross. So no, but you get it. You know, I’m sure you guys you know. And then Sherman. I talked to him all the time. Me and Nima. Of course even if he’s in New York, it doesn’t matter. We talk and it was just his birthday two days ago. Who else am I my mike mike is like this is Mike like one day he’ll like hit you up and then you know he Leila Gigi sister how to get together at her house Sunday before last and like he shows up and like you don’t know where you stand with Mike one day. He’s like, giving you mad love and he’ll call you and talk to you for like an hour and a half. And then the next month he won’t return like your call like It’s like Did something happen? Like what happened? Like then you have to like Google him like Did something happened to him like what’s going on? So he’s like,
like the Rodney of of Jersey Shore. And always really, is he still with Polina who he was engaged to know
there’s so over and have been and I think she if I’m being dead as honest as if like nobody is listening to this podcast. I think that after everything that happened with them She in this is purely my opinion. I think she just like kind of like planned an exit like No more No more Shaw’s no more Mike like I I think that she pretended this one of the things that always bothered us was that she said she never knew what Shahs of Sunset was and didn’t really watch or know about the show or that Mike was on that show. So like that was for us, like raised a red flag. And then when the like, like at the end, the way that she would change for camera or plan things for cameras seemed very deliberate. So hey, by the way to support on like in her defense, if he cheated on her or not. Like, why should anyone stay with someone that cheated? You know,
what are you saying that she put up with it to be on camera? And yes, once he was done with the show, she was like, All right, I’m not even on TV anymore.
I’m out. Exactly. That’s exactly what I think so you’re
not in touch with her? No, I
was never friends with Polina because I will always be Mike’s friend. So the loyalty will always go to him, you know, and if she was in his life, then she would be in my life. At DCH
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right? So you’d be nice and friendly with her if she were his girlfriend, but now that she’s not you don’t. What about Jessica, do you still?
Yes. And I love her. She’s amazing. I think that Mike definitely screwed that one up big time. You know, I just saw her son at Elijah’s birthday. So she’s, she’s a badass. I like her a lot. And Elijah
is Gigi son. So do you guys all get the boys together? Because you all have the three of you have boys close in age? Yeah.
I mean, I live in Yeah. So I live in Calabasas. She lives in Santa Monica and Gomez who lives in Encino. So like that’s about 45 minutes each way with no traffic kinda like have to go out of our way so you don’t see each other every day. Kind of like you guys. Same with you guys. Like if you guys are most likely to see your friends that you live a block away from, you know what I mean? But yes, we still see each other at like our gatherings and get togethers and things that are like, you know, you’re going to see them at all the birthdays and things like that.
In regards to Reza are Reza and Tommy Okay, do you still have a separate friendship with Reza? Or is Tommy now kind of in the mix? With Tommy not?
No Tommy is not in the mix. He’s we have a separate friendship. I mean, it’s like roses never been to my house. He’s, you know, just, it’s not gonna be I just I don’t know, I don’t know if it would ever be that way. But you know, Reza, and I still have our bond and we still have our friendship. It’s just like a vert, like, where, like Reza has definitely grown. And he’s like, I don’t think that he and I have like the same exact thing. It’s evolved obviously in the way that we all should. And my therapist, Dr. Donna, she was the one that taught me like, we were talking about grief as an example. And I was saying, for example, my dad once my father started to get sick. I was never the same person after that. And then I said, How do you get back to the way you were before he got sick? And she’s like never you should stop expecting to Go back to the way things were as like a life rule. So with Reza and me, it’s I have to like check myself and say like, we’re not supposed to go back to the way we were going to like who we are today. I’m a mom. He’s, you know, very busy doing a lot of awesome things with like Reza be obsessed. And, you know, he’s done. The one offs, what are what is that one traders? And, you know, when to Ireland and does what’s the other show that he just came back from?
Oh, was he on? He wasn’t on special forces. It was the other one. The boss or a boss?Yeah. No, it’s called something else. But go like the goat. The goat. The goat? Yes. Because I know Kristen Dodi and Jill Zarin and yes, yes, that one.
Would you ever go on a one off show like that?I would go I want to do I keep telling Andy and he keeps agreeing with me. And I keep telling the execs because, you know, like, we’re still in a contract with them. So like, I’ll like I see my EPS on a write pretty regular basis. And I’m like, when are we going to do a non housewives cast strip? Like a girl? Yes. You know, talked
about that. Yes. You would be great on that. I mean, I could see you being great on imposters, too.
On imposters? What is that one?
That’s the one that Reza did in Scotland.
Sure, traders, traders. Oh.
Is it possible postures? Sitting in
words, I don’t think you would be good on that.
I don’t think I would be good on that. I think that I would thrive in a co ed or all girls 10 day trip. I mean, where they were,
there was a beach and alcohol flowing. I could.
Absolutely. Or ski I don’t care. I just think it would be so fun. And I’m sure they’re gonna get around to it. You know, they’re just they’re doing their best over there at Bravo. You know?
Absolutely. We have to hear your thoughts out. You mentioned Kristen Doughty. Who do you know if you know them? I mean, I know LA is a big but small place, especially when you’re in the Bravo fam. Who do you know are friendly with thoughts on scannable?
Yeah, I’m friends with all of them. I mean, I’m I’m really good friends with Sheena, Lola and Kristen and I can always call each other like she’ll call me if she, you know, wants to talk to me about something, especially when she wants to start a podcast and short sees really been always friendly. Sandoval was always really friendly. I mean, you’ll see you don’t have to scroll down very far on my Instagram to see them, you know, on my grid, and like Tommy and me always went to like, the shorts and Sandy’s opening, or we’ve gone to each other’s like live events. I mean, I they’re definitely they’re just, you know, Jack’s everyone. I’m friends with them. I don’t. I am heartbroken that Sandoval did that. And at the same point in time, I knew from 30,000 feet up that Ariana wasn’t happy, but she just wasn’t making a change. You know, we’ve all either been in that position, or we’ve known a best girlfriend who’s been in that position.
Right? So you could see that even even on the cusp, you could see that the relationship wasn’t thriving. But were you surprised because you very
Yeah, used to that. I was very shocked about work. Hell, I never ever, ever in a million years. Thought that. You know, you guys know that me and Tommy and Raquel and Nima and Brock and Sheena the six of us went to Hannah burners wedding in the Hamptons last May. We plan the whole trip together to make sure we were in the same hotel. Just never ever, ever thought that Ariana has radar was off. Interesting. Her I would never have thought that she would have done that at all. That’s wild. It is and
Have you have you seen any? I guess you see them but you’re not you don’t do you ever go in there filming or you wouldn’t bother.
So like that’s why I definitely passed on SheKnows wedding is because the cameras are too. It’s like two separate things. It’s like It’s like going to someone’s event but you have to be in like a glass elevator. Right? You know, I you know so like it because I’ve been on both sides of it. You know my I know that I wouldn’t be able to walk up to Sheena. and say anything because she’s working. Or she’s, you know, mid conversation. I have been to a lot of things where I was like just going to it because it was half an hour away and it didn’t take that long to get ready. But then if I was going to fly to Cancun as much as I would have loved to see the crystal blue waters of Cancun, it’s been a long time. Me and Tommy were like, yeah, no, we just wouldn’t, it would fit you feel stupid to go and do it. It feels like you’re standing in the sidewalk waiting for like, someone to randomly passed by. It’s like two different you’re watching a parade. Exactly. You’re really good at those analogies and summing things up for me. I
guess I totally can. Like, obviously, I’ve never been in this situation, but I can imagine. Do you? How do you feel looking back having your wedding? Do you have any regrets about it? Are you happy? It’s memorialized in that way.
A lot of people say it was the funniest. You know, wedding, everyone who attended had the best time of their life went down in history of like, everyone’s favorite wedding. First thing I think about no regrets, by the way, except for the fact that I, I thought the only the only mistake that I didn’t know about was I thought it was corny to pull out a pre written speech. Because all my life since I was a little girl, whenever I would see someone read from an index card. I thought, Oh, why can’t you speak from the heart? Like, why can’t you just wing it because your feelings are going to be so you know, genuine that they should just roll off your tongue. So that is one thing that Tommy throws in my face. Every pretty much every time we get into a big fight. Like he’ll say, you didn’t even make vows. Like you didn’t even write them. You didn’t even have them. And I’m always like, Ah, you’re never gonna let me live that down. So obviously, I love him. And I wish that I could not make him feel that way. Because I genuinely, I love him so much that I have to be smart enough in that moment to say like, like, of course I you know, like, what about everything else they’ve, you know, done for us? Like, you’re gonna tell me I don’t love you because of that one moment. But you know, whether that was on camera or not, he could definitely still bring it up. But you know, like, I was so good that day, until walking down the aisle and reso I was like Reza, give me vodka. And he was like, okay, and he poured like a nice, tiny amount. And then I was like, that’s not going to be enough. There’s so much adrenaline in my body. But then, you know, I kinda kind of got a little fun. Yeah, because you should, because now I know. Now, I know, hindsight, 2020 that when you’re walking down the aisle, there’s something else that’s taking over your body that you’ll never know. Right? You know, like, it’s such a different wild level of consciousness that like, I, I should have just had the vows and then everything would have been fine.
You could have just feelings, all the people that seem like you love and like you feel like you’re out of body. Yeah, it is. It is. It is a crazy feeling to walk down the aisle like that.
Yes, it is.
So you mentioned New York earlier, like tell us like what do you what are you thinking about the reboot?
Oh my god. Okay, so this morning, while remember how you and I were earlier today, we were talking about trying to multitask. So I was walking the dog after F 45. And I was catching up on OSI on my phone so I you know, I like watch. The only way I can watch TV now is like on the peacock app on my phone so that I can like knock out two different things at once. But I I love New York New Era. Okay. I wasn’t going to I was like determined to be like, against it. But I think that they’re, I think they’re good. I think they’re great. I think what do I mean? Obviously, Jenna and Erin are the standouts, but you know, I’m totally caught up on them. I mean, I it was fun. It didn’t I like I almost like OC better right now. Because like, I just I, you know, I don’t have a better expression for this right now. But like the OC girls, like it’s like their balls dropped. Yeah. Right.
You’re more invested in them because you know them longer. Right. So yeah, I mean, as a fan, I’d even I’m sure you probably do you know, who do you know, I’m sure you know, Tamra in real life, right.
I know Tamra and I’m close with Shannon and I’m close with. What’s wrong with me right now? I’m trying to think of my Persian one, the one that’s married to Shane, what’s wrong with me, Emily, Emily. And I met Gina and Travis at Bravo con. They’re extremely like it’s like you talk and instantly you feel like you’ve known each other forever. And I don’t the person that I’m not friends with is Vicki. Heather. No, even Vicki and I like she’s in my phone. We’ve talked. It’s Heather and I don’t we just don’t, I don’t dislike her. I just don’t like the putting on airs that patronizing thing. I don’t know if she can help it, but that doesn’t.
I don’t know if it’s a disability to be a snob. snobbish. I stay away. I want to say this is politically correct in case in case the DSM comes out with a mental health issue that comes as being a rich snobby bitch. Oh my god. Oh my god. Wait, so you’re close with Shannon, what do you think about her and John getting back together?
I don’t Well, first of all, she’s she’s saying that they’re not back together. They’re just spending time together. But you know, I’m gonna respect here’s what I I, I think that when you when you love a girlfriend, you become protective. And that’s how I feel right now. I want I feel like he’s gonna have to prove himself to her to be worthy and trustworthy of not breaking her heart or disappointing her or letting her down in any way. Because right now,
I he messed up. I feel
like Yeah, he definitely messed up. But I feel like the timing of him coming back into our life was when the show this season premiered this current season, right? And like,
he likes the cameras. He likes the attention. He wants to be on the promo tour.
I mean, if you if you see like your your acts on TV, is like all of a sudden popping up everywhere. And then that’s when you call them. I mean, the timing could totally have been different than this. But he’s just got to prove himself to me. I want Shannon to be happy. I worry about these guys taking advantage of these girls.
Yes. I think we see a lot of that.
Yes, I worry about Gina having to be responsible for the six kids. Five
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And still not I don’t know if he’s still not divorced, or it was a very contentious divorce. But his split was very messy. Nothing to do with Jean I mean, totally separate, right. But it’s a lot and she can’t talk about that on the show. So it leaves her it was funny. And
also when it comes to being in the entertainment industry, it’s like it also applies to the real world where you have your kid is in school, they come home they have homework till bedtime. But then we’re never taught about finances or bouncing a checkbook or creating an IRA like no one knows what a you know, like, how to change a spare tire there’s like so much practical knowledge that we don’t learn about and then we don’t spend time with and then here we are like, I know that these are all good guys. Like Travis is a great guy. You can tell from meeting him that he’s in love with Gina I mean sorry. Let’s definitely lay I don’t want to put I don’t want to keep using them as an example if you’re a parable that in general the like you’re saying like there are situations where a woman is so focused on be trying to be happy trying to maintain her career in her life that we can lose sight of other things like Oh, I I I feel like this applies to Vicki like she was trying to just be happy and then Yeah, suddenly, it was like no, it gradually well see, he’s a bad example too, because then he also like, tweeted
way of thinking both ways, right? Because I certainly wasn’t raised. And I’ve never believed, like, Oh, I’m going to marry for money. And I’m going to go to college to get my Mrs. Like, I always had the intention to have my own career and have my own thing. Now, yes, we, you know, we are the ones who bear children. So many women find themselves in a position where they’re able to not work. And they either choose to continue to because they want to, and it’s fulfilling for them when they have children, or they stay home for some time, and then they go back to their career, or they stay home forever. And that’s obviously a woman’s choice. But I think that the idea that anyone starts their adult life, looking for somebody to live off of is bizarre, whether you’re a man or three never occur, but I don’t think like let’s say, on the average person, it wouldn’t occur to me, I don’t know what circumstance I would be in where that would be normal.
That’s right. I mean, it’s interesting, because when you’re in a different stage in life, you’re looking for mutual companionship. At that point, you don’t need to do anything extravagant, you’re just both living within your means. But when you’re younger, in your earning years with young children that you have to support, then you have to prioritize both of you contributing. So anyway. Yes. And then
I couldn’t agree with you more. I couldn’t agree with you more. And as a woman, I guess, I guess what we’re saying is, we don’t see the upside to a relationship like that without naming any names like, right, if I’m taking on blending families, and I’m supporting everybody, like what’s in it for me?
Right. I also think, too, and we’ve talked about this with many of the women, it must be tough, having been on a reality show for anybody, and then like trusting new people coming into your life. Right. And, you know, we’ve seen Ramona struggle from, you know, og, we’ve seen Luann we’ve seen Sonia, just even three, you know, we’ve seen Kenya more. I mean, so many of these amazing, beautiful women. It’s hard to date, I think, because there’s, I’m sure just like a little bit of almost distrust built in from day one of like, why are you in my life? Because I am a public, you know, figure or are you coming into my life because you want to get to know me? Yeah,
we definitely know that Kenya has a bad picker. So yeah, he’s not allowed to pick men for herself. She should only go to Patti Stanger and matchmaker decide for who’s the other girl that is one of the OGS from ATL helped me can share with all our girls Deray she is oh my god, she melted my heart I love her so much when we met at Bravo Con last last year. And just beautiful fun. Successful finished her house and yet doesn’t have luck with men like she you know, she’s another Yeah, like you. i We do not like to see, guys take advantage of these girls that work so hard to build what they have in life.
Will you be at Bravo Con this year? MJ? I am not
allowed to announce the lineup until Bravo officially announces because it’s, it would be hypothetically, a direct violation of contract.
Got a contract? Got it? Yeah. So I’m gonna take that as good news. Okay. I
have no idea what you’re talking about. All right. So let’s,
let’s talk about like, what shows like if you thought it was like a world where you could be on any of the Bravo shows? Which one would you like to be on? You
know, I feel like right now, Real Housewives of Orange County, because I’m watching it. And I live close. And I’m friends with them. That’s about the only one I told Linus. But like, I’m just when I say this, I mean it. I need to live my life, my real life where I’m really focused on real estate and motherhood. And you know, like, I can’t do anything other than like a girls trip right now. If
I did it for years, maybe when you’re a little bit older, it’s something you would consider. Yes,
I could see that in a year or something. Once I’ve had time to fully get back into this and not have to ever let it take a backseat, because I like I was doing real estate all along, but it took a backseat. And now that I’m back I would never allow Have any TV show to diminish my time and dedication to these things, because it’s genuinely what makes me tick. And if you knew, like, the kind of people that I talk to and interact with, and people who are, you know, trying everything they can to flag me down and get me on the phone to pick my brain and represent them and negotiate for them. And it’s just so different from just being a character on a reality show that, you know, like I said, like what it came down to the last couple seasons wasn’t authentic enough, but an ensemble show like a jersey housewife or a OC housewife, I feel like would be so fitting or like housewives of Calabasas? Like we could start our own? You know,
Gigi, who asked me last week, but not definitely
Jessica. Yes. And you know, some new faces that were genuinely friends with who who fit and are, you know, just like us, you know, but very different.
A show that I’ve seen a lot of people compare shots to and I guess it’s because of the traditions it showed was family karma. Did you meet them at Bravo, con? And what are your thoughts on the show not coming back?
I met them all. They are lovely, and really fun. I definitely talked to them offline as well. I don’t know why it didn’t come back. I think that like, at that point, I was so much more if you guys know when your kids are at crawling stages and toddler stages, you’re at the park, you’re not turning on TV because you’re not allowing screen time for even your kids your reading work. So that was a period the last couple of years where I was, you know, full time mom no nannies and that’s that’s where I was with that. So it just looked like I don’t know. Like what what did they end up doing? Like? What what we saw a lot of really great things like they got married and there are a lot of good things like Miami, for example. They left my they did they didn’t bring Miami back after Season Two family karma. They’re both they’re both short and famous having three or four seasons. Season three was was it just two seasons? Either either two or three. I mean, it took a break. Right? Well, one of us can Google it, but they only have like two seasons of Miami I think and then when they came back, they started their Miami reboot at season three. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we
what are your What are your thoughts on Miami? I mean, we love Miami.
I love Miami. The way they shot that show is incredible. It just looks like a completely different aesthetic. The music, the cameras, the lighting. Those girls are on another level of beauty like Alexius fits every single day living Barbie. Totally. And I’m so happy. You know, I’m friends with her and real real real friends with her real friends with Marisol. And I love Marisol.
Yes, Sara, I could see the two of you having cocktails and acting wild. Yes.
Like she and I actually spent New Year’s Eve together at my house, though. Yeah, though, the year before last. And she’s amazing. And I absolutely love these girls. And I just I can’t believe the way that they put themselves together. It’s just like they’re from another planet.
What about that mutant? Lenny?
I know that’s too bad. I mean,
I mean, we we spoke about it on the last pod. I mean, he got engaged to this girl like the day after Lisa’s birthday. They’re still married sidenote,
I think I heard a clip. Did you guys put a clip of that, didn’t you somewhere? I
think so. Yes, I actually took everything down because I got one of the I didn’t mean which was from Aviva from Roni back in the day saying quite frank, frankly, you’re both white trash and I wrote me meeting Lenny and his mom, and he was going down by Instagram. So hi, Lenny. Okay, you know, I Katarina, whatever, right?
Let me tell you that part hurt even more having the mom take that side and that position publicly or privately would hurt me even more than than anything else?
Same. How is your mom doing MJ?
Oh, I’m about to go. Oh my god, you want to laugh? I’m about to go pick up my mom. She is going to spend the next week here because you know, even though she loves 20 minutes away, she still likes to do sleepover trips. So then, yeah, so then Tommy’s like well then we need to go to Costco and get some steaks and some surf and turf and some chicken and like, and like he loves to grill every night. especially when she’s coming he like doubles down and so we’re we’re about to go get her and then Champs is like, he’s always like, you’re the best mommy ever. This is the best day ever. He loves hanging out with her. And then my mom, she’ll be like, champs, are you going to show your toys to me? Are you going to share your truck with me?
You sound exactly like her when you do that, by the way. Oh,
it totally spooks my relatives. They love it.
Does Mom miss the camera? Or is she happy to be off TV?
My mom will be like when have you heard anything about the show?
She wants cameras back up. Yeah, she’s down. She’s super. She always done fancy beautiful makeup hair done nice outfit, or was that for the camera? Does she have a more relaxed look that she does.
Always this. Always, always always like, she is exquisite. And everything that she keeps she you she can show you something that she bought a 1981. And it looks like she just brought it from the boutique. It’s got the box, the paper, the everything. She just is like the opposite of me just so together and polished and well spent like
ration like they bought things like quality items. They weren’t like us who ordered junk off Amazon just to not have like a couple of quality pocketbooks. And they kept them and they probably kept them in that bag. That duster bag that we throw in the garbage and then throw the bag in the on the shelf.
Exactly. She has the tissue paper the Duster the box. But I mean I love I love as much as shout out to Josh Flagg I love the generation that with like all the beautiful culture that comes with this generation, and I hope that we find a way to preserve it. Because once we lose it, there’s going to be like life is going to be really bland and and horrible.
So speaking of Josh Flagg, what’s your relationship like with the Josh’s Altman and flag?
I’m friendly, sort of like, again, like I can call them I can text them. I can ask them anything. But I mean, I don’t see them a lot. Josh is Josh Altman is so busy. He’s a sweetheart, you know, I you know, I see him, like during open houses and stuff. And then Josh Flagg just cute and reserved. I see him more like on the ground like you guys do? Yeah. Yes. We don’t like bump into each other that much. But you know, it doesn’t mean you can’t I feel like that’s what I love about us is that like, if I called someone and said, Hey, you want to go grab a drink? Like Emily and I are supposed to go to the Polo lounge and do that again, like we are we’re gonna do like a poolside day like at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Like it’s like, this is the bond that I think is really, really fun.
I think you might have the most cross over friendships of any body in the Bravo world of any Bravo lab. Like you know, everybody. Are you friend friendly with any of the Roni Oh, geez.
Bethany, and lamb through what
are your thoughts on Bethany’s whole unionize reality workers and all that,
Mart I? She told everyone on her posts like send a DM if you agree. And
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Shahs of Sunset is a union show, that is one of the number one reasons why it was so extremely expensive for them to make Shahs of Sunset because they went on strike. You guys could probably find it on Google. And I don’t think there’s any other show that is so I totally understand that. Yeah, it’s so expensive and Megan probably would still be on the air. If it it weren’t that you know if that weren’t the case, but especially when you watch by the way, I was thinking about this this morning, I was watching OC and how good it is this season. And I was like, you know, they had so many bad seasons, right? Like the last few before they have the current ensemble. And I was like, but they didn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. They kept it and, and with our show, think about it. Like it was still just came down to like me, Mike. Excuse me, I have to start with me and Reza, and Gigi and Mike. And after those four like London didn’t pan out that girl ossifer didn’t pan out. We never really had you know like casting of trying to get like new new fresh meat never panned out. So illegal
Ichi or whatever her name was,
right didn’t pan out. So the cat okay. Yeah, Nima did okay. He didn’t mean he was there the last few seasons. And he did well. Destiny was okay. I mean, I don’t think she was a
fan of hers was never I don’t know something about her always rubbed me the wrong way.
You know, she doesn’t talk to anyone on the show anymore. If that doesn’t speak volumes, if that doesn’t speak volumes. I don’t know what does not
even Reza who was like her BFF doesn’t she live across the street from Reza? Yeah,
but when the show went away, she moved. Did
she own that or rent that?
Rented it? Wow. Yeah, I
always got this very inauthentic vibe from her. So that totally checks out. Yeah.
tracks right.
Yes. What do you think? What are your thoughts on crappie? Like you said, you know, Luann
Oh, they’re so fun. Luann is like an extra terrestrial human being she’s got the most amazing energy and the fact that she’s so successful with touring the Countess show is like, she’s, she’s, she’s like a superhuman person. And I’m so glad that they’re having fun.
You don’t have to say publicly, but if you can get her doctor’s name and a few years I want whatever she used because the one that has the best work of anyone I’ve ever seen.
I think we want doulos and she obviously will share her daughters. She has the she’s Yeah, she looks just better and better every year.
It’s got 10 years on dolo and they look the same age. Yes,
but I think Luann it’s genetic. Yeah. Mostly, I’m not saying that she hasn’t gotten work done. I’m just saying that. That’s what something extra terrestrial is going on. We she probably is an alien, allegedly that I’m currently she’s so super
human. Well, now we know aliens are real. So again, zactly Yeah. Have you ever hung out with Sonia? Yes, she’s
so down to earth. You know?
Vanya. I was in her townhouse, because during COVID A friend of mine has a business and doing balloons and we like just she had me message a bunch of like local Jersey and New York housewives just to kind of get her name out there. And I when I met Sonia, she was friendly, but she was sharpers attacked. That whole like ditzy thing is part of her shtick. Would you agree with
that? Yes. She’s so fearless. And, you know, one of the things I love about the New York franchise is that they’re so sex positive. And that’s why they are a standout. And she’s one of the reasons why, like when back in the day when the Countess was like, trying to hide who she was, yes, Sonia was not Sonia was like living her best life. And she wasn’t shying away from like, wanting to hit on a guy and have a good time. So that’s why she’s just a very, very smart woman and unique in that way.
I love it. And is there anything else you have to tell us that? We need to know before we wrap up today?
Honestly, I think we did. Great. And
thank you so much for ya
know, my My pleasure. It was so fun to chat with you. And I was just like, oh my god when I look at the clock right now, what time is it gonna say and it’s good. We like nailed it on the head.
We’re good. Well have fun when I are sharing Tommy’s book to my Instagram and I will be lobbying for you to be on a girls trip.
I know I really want to tell you ladies that and you already know this but if I lived in New York, I would be spending boozy brunches with you ladies. Yes, at least once a month. And
Jay we Well next time you’re in New York. We have to we did but remember it was COVID No, we didn’t. We tried to get together but we didn’t happen.
Yeah, so it hasn’t happened. So the next time I come to Queens, which hopefully will be in 2023 I will see you guys So we’ll have to do it or we’ll do a live pod event. Maybe that’s the next thing we’ll talk about. Maybe not
I miss I can’t do a live pod event. Oh, you. Curtain in front of me.
Oh my god. So you’re like a DuBois. Okay, well, one
day hopefully I’ll be as big as DuBois. But I’m the bootleg. I’m the bodega version for Degas
is where it’s at girl. Well, I
think so. Hey, listen, for every pot. There is a lid. That’s right. That’s right. MJ, we love you. And we’re definitely doing this again. Thank you so much for coming on. We’d
love to have so much fun with your mom and your family this week.
Thank you, you guys to buy time cocktail hours.
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