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What’s up cocktail hours at Amanda Hi V. I mean, I don’t know where to start. There’s so much going on. This week. I feel like we’re gonna be on this like, kind of level for the next at least few weeks through babo con. But first wanted to just share something kind of on a on an us note, not a gossip note, cocktails, and gossip has hit 1 million downloads. And it’s because of you guys a cocktail hours. We so appreciate you. And you’ll see we’re doing a little celebrating. So check out the cocktails and gossip Instagram for a little more information. Thank you guys so much. We love you guys. And that’s not even our subscription downloads. That’s just that’s just are not so just to. I also posted it on Bravo and cocktails, we’re doing a little giveaway. If you love our pod and you want to see what the cocktail party is all about. We’re going to be giving away a few subscriptions yearly subscriptions to the subscription site. And all you have to do is just share our pod and write us a good review. And then you can become a cocktail or for free for a year. But seriously, we can’t thank you guys enough. You’ve been so fantastic cocktails. We love you. I love you guys. Okay, so I know we were not planning on starting the pod with Beverly Hills. But I think we don’t have a choice because of the show and then watch what happens live last night. There has been a change of plans indeed.
Watch What Happens Live was wild, the Intel in our both our email and DMS last night during the Beverly Hills premiere during Kyle and Teddy’s appearance on Watch What Happens Live. We just have to jump right in. Yeah, I’m gonna go between the episode and Intel we’ve received and we’ve in the Watch What Happens Live into there somewhere. Lisa Rinna is screaming because this might be the best Beverly Hills season yet. For sure. I cannot wait. And I have to tell you guys like BNI we kind of started talking I was like, Oh my gosh, we have to say this for the pod because we’re both like so amped up that last night was so nuts. So let’s start with not to toot our own horn. But a lot of people are saying oh there have been no leaks this season. However cocktail, there’s no there have been leaks and just in the first episode alone. We’ll get to a couple
those leaks. Yeah. Okay, so the episodes started with three hosting this kind of retreat with a healer named Eagle woman. The reason being is that the women are disconnected you can tell like they haven’t really been talking Erica feels very much on her own. She openly says like, and they showed runas email to NBC saying she won’t be returning Yep. I mean, do Rico’s in immediately about what Eric has said at Bravo con. So I’m sure you guys watch the episode. But at Bravo con, Andy asked one of his shady questions, which was Who do you think the next couple that’s going to divorce? And she marched out and I loved I loved Dory describing her doing it. I loved her reach impression of her and Erica said durian PK will be the next her divorce. I mean, I don’t think Erica had to get up out of the chair. I don’t like she says show man, Amanda. I know but I don’t know that was. So we also see Tori and Kyle talking about how to read NPK had a rough year. Wait, but when first I want to say listen a few things. Because coincidentally Amanda this rumor has taken on a life of its own this week. Oh for sure. So it’s sort of odd that we received Intel in July that another Beverly Hills couple was divorcing. It was on the horizon? You know, kind of like a wait for it, you’re gonna see. And we weren’t really sure what to make of it. Because the Erica thing just was out of the clear blue sky like we didn’t like nobody thought that was like a legit thing. Right. Then, when we posted that it was on the heels of Mauricio and Kyle’s separation announcement. Where are they weren’t they? So I mean, I didn’t know you didn’t know, listeners didn’t know whether it was a real thing. If it was a distraction from the Kyla Marie CL. Some people were even guessing Teddy and Edwin because it said it was one of her friends. So we were like, well, maybe that’s Teddy, so we didn’t really hear anything else about it. Now. Is this like everyone’s saying the Kyle things were ratings? Is this for ratings? Did this rumors start again? Because now they’re talking about it first episode like, are they really split, but they held it for the season? Well, I mean, if we can fast forward really quick to watch what happens live. It came up on the show. And one of the viewers asked a question saying and this was a part of the the hotel part was something I hadn’t heard. They asked Kyle and Teddy. Did you know have you heard this rumor that PK and terete are separated and that PK is living in a hotel. Both of them look shocked. Especially Kyle, I have to tell you because I’ve been a virtual guest on Watch What Happens Live. The virtual guests are given those questions by Bravo. They don’t make them out. Oh, so Oh, are you know? So that question was planted by Bravo. Now, that’s not to say Kyle and Teddy have no way of knowing what questions going to be asked. So their shock was legitimate. But
I mean, maybe even Andy doesn’t always know like, that could be his team but Bravo themselves gives those questions like the production of Watch What Happens Live.
Well, that is juicy. I did not know that I mix I kind of always wondered if there was some sort of coordination because the viewers never asked you a question that had already been asked previously in the interview. Right? So I figured there was some sort of producer coordination but wow, I had no idea they actually just give them to them. They don’t let Pete So yeah, okay, so back to you know, we’re seeing drinkin Kyle talk about the rough year to read even says they might not make it. But then last night, she released a statement with PK via People magazine that they had a tough year but they’re working on it. Okay, so here’s what I can tell you. I have a source and this is not anybody in the biz, but it’s somebody who knows dirt and PK. And they’ve given me stuff on Beverly Hills and jury in the past. They claim that they are in fact divorcing she messaged me last night. She said that hopefully she’ll be able to share more with me soon but she did confirm personally I am surprised. I I really thought that summer Intel was a one off I will say so. You know that Watch What Happens Live when the question was asked about the jury PK hotel rumors, divorce rumors.
Kyle said no but hers.
Smerch was very telling. And Teddy’s reaction to like they look genuinely surprised. They’re like, oh shit, this is getting out. And if there was any doubt Andy’s reaction looks like Oh, come on girls, you know that they’re split. So I do think Erica knew something now now looking at all of these puzzle pieces, because that’s what we do around here, guys, we put the puzzle together. I think Erica knew something at BronyCon I think she spilled the beans. However, this was before Rana was not returning. So I think Erica walked into this season and was like, Alright, I’m gonna back down from that. Because, yeah, I’ll be by myself on this. But I do believe that this has been going on now that the source told me that they’re splitting, you know, people don’t decide to divorce overnight. So this is it’s all happening. And it’s been happening clearly. And Erica said that and there was truth to it. And now she’s well, no. And then satin on the show says while there was I did hear that when PK got his DUI, there was a woman in the car with him shady. And then we had Teddy on Watch What Happens Live, say that she saw the report with her own eyes. And that wasn’t true. However, a follower reached out and told us how it works in California. And that if he was with someone, they wouldn’t be named. Do you want to read it? The followers shared? Yes. Okay. So regarding Teddy saying, hey, well, Teddy also is like, I never heard that rumor. But I also did look at the police report. Do you I arrest reports are not public records in California. Only Date, Time location, type of report. brief synopsis. So like a couple of sentences, injuries, sustained weapons use property damage, arrest and booking Date, Time charges, case disposition, arrestee name and physical description except for race and age, victim name and age and responding officers are public. Only the chief of police or his attorney could choose to make the report public, which would also include he only the chief of police could make the passenger info public as well. So unless there was a traffic collision associated with a DUI, any other party who was involved or in that car, to the I don’t know what TC portion to the TC portion could receive a copy of the report with passenger and bow.
What this really all is showing us with this season is going to continue, I believe to show us is that these women, there’s more to it than meets the eye with these marriages. Maybe we’re stupid to not realize that maybe we’re naive. This is Hollyweird after all. I mean, not all of them are actresses, but they all live in Beverly Hills. I believe that that they’re split, I do believe it, I have to say I never really understood where their money came from. I think there were always like concerns about where it came from a feeling that it wasn’t all on the up and up. Some reports are saying that they owe over a million dollars in taxes. I’m unclear on those details. I haven’t received any actual hard evidence of that. But I do think that there are financial strains on them. We know because were people that this would weigh heavily on a marriage and I want to call it like it is here. And I like dery and I like PK and I think PK is funny as hell. But I have to imagine that his wealth and status attracted to REIT to him she has her own status now. And without the wealth maybe she wasn’t as into it anymore. To me that really seems totally plausible. She’s really front and center in a way she never was prior to the show. You know she grew up in Connecticut. She was had no connection to Beverly Hills or fame or anything. PK really was her entry point to this world. He’s not necessary anymore. And if they don’t have money, listen, that’s my feeling if I had to guess how it went down, I would go with that him cheating a girl in the car with the DUI. I don’t really buy any of that to be honest with you.
I just I think that she’s got some fame now. She’s got you know, well to do well known friends. And if he doesn’t have much money on to the next one, I can see I can see that being really hard on their marriage if they’re having those kinds of financial troubles. You know, it’s what is really become clear to me is these women are all keeping a lot of secrets from us. Yeah.
I’m on Beverly Hills and they have been right and they know, they know within their circle what’s going on. And it’s it’s very much like what we saw happen on New York, where they kind of make a pact and not really talk about it. However, I just think the Beverly Hills people are much better at keeping the secret that there is a secret to start with in the first place. You know, like they’re much better at hiding that they’re hiding something totally. Okay. So at the retreat, we see a big group hug. We see them all resolved to be better friends, Erica cries and apologizes. And then there is a scene later in the show where she is talking to her therapist in person outside away that therapist she’s from a Dr. Drew show or like a marriage boot camp like we know her from television. She looks familiar. Yeah, definitely is I can’t place it. But she’s definitely been on with Dr. Drew, maybe like a rehab, one of his rehab addiction. I don’t know. Obviously, she’s a real therapist, psychologist, whatever she is, but she’s also a TV personality. Yeah, I’m sure the cocktail or somebody will tell us because I noticed that I could have Googled it, but there. Yeah. Okay, so the therapist is like, so your friends are going through things. And you’re gonna have to learn how to look at, you know, what they’re going through, and to develop some empathy. And Erica says, How do I get that?
therapist says, well, first, you imagine being in that person’s shoes, and their background, and then you try to imagine the emotions that they’re feeling. I mean, do you really think Erica doesn’t understand empathy? Or do you think she was just like trying to have a moment because my jaw did drop at that scene?
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Woof, she has never really shown much empathy, although I think if I don’t Okay, I would say that she’s stingy with it. And listen, you can’t teach empathy. And like sociopaths don’t have empathy, right? Psychopaths don’t have empathy. I’m not saying Erica is either of those. But like, if you use her friendship with Renda, for example. Certainly I think that we saw her have empathy when Renner lost her mom, and things of that nature. I also have seen her have empathy for Tom. I think her and Tom have a very complicated relationship, but I think I’ve seen have empathy for him. So yeah, I kind of take it more to mean like, even her showing up and being like I’m on my own this year like she doesn’t really consider them friends. Yes, she goes on that picnic. Oh, that’s the upcoming episode next week I saw the upcoming episode she needed to read
She’s like, Your friendship is important to me. I want to make it up to you and like really gravels which dery boots up like a little like, like a kitten with her milk. Right? She loved it. Right. But I don’t think Erica really has a true connection to any of them. I think she likes Kyle for the most part, but like, I think Renee is really the only one she ever really had a real connection with which I do think there are people like some people have empathy for all people, even strangers, right? I think most people if something bad happens, like when we watch the news, and we see something absolutely terrible happen to a complete stranger, and it crushes us and we cry, or you watch a movie and you cry, because it’s because you have empathy for people because it should be a natural reaction. Maybe she doesn’t have that. But maybe if she’s tied into somebody, if somebody is a value to her, she can feel that emotion.
Yeah, I don’t know. I’m just kind of not buying it. I think yes. I think she
selectively has empathy. I think that’s part of her like story, right? Which is she’s trying to be you know, this is why she didn’t have empathy for the victims of all the crimes that from Tom Well, right. Because in that situation, she was too focused on what what was done to her as a result of that, which is different than her committing the crime. But it’s still like she couldn’t separate. Like, if, if she had nothing to do with it. And she was watching the news, and she heard this happened. I’m sure she’d be like, Oh, that’s terrible. I don’t think that she’s a person who would consciously do that to people rob them of their whatever, right. But since that having happened, meant she was, you know, without funds, she was like, fuck them. Yeah, so like, yeah, here’s gotta be something between a sociopath and an empathetic person. That’s her, right?
I mean, okay, so now, I have to tell you, and I know there’s a lot use your stuff, and we’re gonna get to it. But as moms Amanda, I just want us to have a little combo, because I got really annoyed at Garcelle son, which was the one saying it JAXA Jade, I think it was Jade when she was doing the picnic. And obviously she’s looking for a storyline. And he was like, pissed off at her. And he’s like, I don’t need you. Now. First of all, 15 year olds don’t need their moms. They obviously don’t need them to like, wipe their butt, but they still need them. My thing is, and listen, I have no way of knowing specifically what her son means. It seems to me that Garcelle is a very doting mom, she works. She has a career, she has a very demanding career. I just felt like it was hurtful. And maybe I’m personalizing it as a working mom myself. Because like I always say, like, I work for my kids, right? I couldn’t. I used to say to Pete, like, I could have lived off my husband’s salary. But I went back to work. And this is my personal experience and situation because I wanted to provide a life for my kids where they could do things that wouldn’t we wouldn’t have been able to do if we were on one salary. So for me, I felt like I don’t know, I got really pissed off. And the other reason it pissed me off is because it’s not like she’s leaving them in a care of the nanny. She’s leaving them with their father. Right. So it’s like, I think it’s a double standard. I think it comes back to like, Oh, our friends don’t live near there. Okay, like tough shit. And if it was their father who was traveling for work, first of all, they would be living with their mother. Right? And I certainly don’t think they would have the animosity towards him because it would just be assumed, oh, well, that’s his job. But why does it seem like when it’s a woman’s job, now we have a problem. Now the kids have something to say. I don’t know. I felt that the he was being bratty. And I guess I also have to say, as he’s sitting there in his Burberry, sweatsuit hoodie with his Yeezy slides, and like like, Are you fucking kidding me? I don’t know if that matters, but it’s just the point of like, you spoil Brett. I don’t know. It made me annoyed. I agree. I think he came off. bratty. I will say I mean, they’re teenagers and teenagers are, by nature very self centered. I think that’s like a pretty actually standard developmental thing. Yes. And these boys are probably looking at their friends whose moms don’t have to work or don’t travel for work, right. And you’re right. It’s a total fucking double standard. Excuse my language. But you know, when when the moms are hard workers or who have to travel. It just feels like it’s such a bigger impact on the family than the dad. It’s in so many families.
So I have to say like, that had to just feel like a dagger to the heart when her husband said she wasn’t there and that he needed more in terms of parenting like, Oh, ouch. Like, I as a mom, I cannot imagine, right? So like, as a mom, if my child would say that to me, I would feel so guilty. But as a viewer watching it, I don’t feel Garcelle has done anything wrong. But I think it wouldn’t be hard. If your child is telling you that it would be hard not to feel that you’ve done something wrong. Yeah, I think she seems like a great mom. And she even said, like, I want you to verbalize it to me. She goes, and it might not change the fact of whether I go or not, but that’s just real life. I mean, yeah. Listen, she is not I don’t know, who am I thinking of Julia Roberts, who made $30 million on a movie and honestly, or Reese Witherspoon? Like, who? And I’m not saying either of those women shouldn’t work because they have children. That’s not what I’m saying. But what I’m saying is Garcelle is a working actress. But I don’t believe it until recently that she’s had like real secure money from working. Does that make sense? Like, she didn’t make $20 million on boomerang back 30 years ago, like, she’s a working actress, like she made a couple $100,000 She’s got to keep getting roles. Now she may be getting to a place where she can be choosy, Aaron, she could choose to skip something if it interferes with one of her son’s events, or whatever it is. But it wasn’t always like that. This isn’t Halle Berry.
Who made millions and millions and not that a woman should have to because God knows men don’t have to, I’m just saying, well, like, look, so like pink, the singer brings her daughter on tour. Right? Right, there’s gonna be a day where her daughter is gonna be like, No, I want to stay home and, you know, be with my friends and go to school and do whatever, right? Like, that’s very normal. Well, pink can’t do that. You know, and then have her also have her daughter on tour, right? So it’s, there’s choices that all of us as working parents have to make. But pink will be in a position I believe where like the tour she just did, she’ll have enough money that if her daughter is about 12, or 13. Now, if she wants to not do a big tour like that, again, because her daughter wants to be in a traditional high school, she’ll financially be able to make that choice. I actually heard that she’s considering doing a residency in Vegas. And I guarantee you, it’s for that exact reason, because at least she’ll still be able to do her thing. And her kids would be able to attend a school and have that whole normal childhood experience. Which then the other side of it right, the other side of me is says kids should be able to have that just because your parent is a performer and traveling doesn’t mean you should have to live like a gypsy but gar sells kids. We’re not touring with her. They had a home with a dad who was an agent who was home with them. So Right. I think it is different in that respect. And I’m sure she came home on weekends, whatever we’re really getting into it. But yeah, being a mother is so frickin complicated. And I felt really sorry for her in that moment. I agree. I agree. Okay, I mean, the moment we’ve all been waiting for seeing Kyle and Mauricio, and her having to be like, Hey, how long are you going to be? And when he’s just like working out, like talking to his assistant about like, dumb minor details. And like that, to me, I thought was really telling like that he is like, literally stuff that could wait 20 minutes when Kyle is wanting to talk to him. Like, that’s probably how Kyle has felt a lot through her marriage, right? Where it’s like, even this dumb stuff is not is more important than me. Anyway, so the combo, I absolutely agree with you. And it is like 20 plus years of resentment are shown to us the audience in that scene. She was so anxious. She was like jumping. i For me the most telling thing was when she said I am very clear. I am not rebelling. I am clear on where I stand and what I want meaning she’s not drinking. She knows. She seems very angry. And he seems to be masking his own anger and sort of shocked like, Oh my God, you’re really letting the mask fall like you’re really going here on camera. Yeah. And then he kept calling her pet names and trying to like stick to the script in and he kept saying it and I’ve never heard that love being shit. Maybe there and she was just looking at him like time’s up motherfucker.
Right?
And he was like, the beats of him making that like face like
He’s about to take a dump, like, oh, like he almost can’t believe it, and it just spoke volumes. And I do think that a big part of it is that she’s sober. And I think it I think it’s her age, I think it’s her children getting older. I think that there’s a possibility that something happened. So I do believe that he’s a cheater. I think he’s been a cheater over the years. And I say this based on a lot of different people who’ve sent me stuff like I had a girl today or last night, send me something and she said, My husband worked for the agency back in whatever year and like everybody knew he, somebody else said, they said, everyone knows that he tested the beds when he showed houses like it was known. So I don’t know if it was a pure denial. I don’t know that if that’s kind of why she was always crying. And we were like, Why should this woman who was crying and I don’t know if she would find out and forgive him and he would be good for a while, and he would manipulate and convince her, but I do think that her being sober. Had a lot to do with it. Him being shocked by her pushback, those intense stares, I mean, yeah, it was that five minutes was like, wow. Yeah, agreed. So we go right from that into Watch What Happens Live with Kyle and Tatiana’s guests, Andy just he went there. And Kyle did not hold back. Sandy definitely had her permission. And that’s why Teddy was on with her to be her pillar of strength and she was like, We’re fucking going there.
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Well And like we’ve been saying for a long time, like we’re being trolled, we’re being told we’re being told and like that was one thing like so watch what happened it was so good. And if you guys haven’t watched it, go back and watch it. But it became very clear to me they were saving it for the cameras right they were saving it for the premiere. And this you know Watch What Happens Live was the vehicle where she was going to finally be more truthful and give us a little more information and she went there I mean like she said, You know I mad my feelings are hurt that ratio was seen holding hands with the dancer. She said So Kyle said that she ratio are in the same house but they are not in the same bedrooms that he got the primary suite and that she’s in a different room. She admitted that she does believe something is going on with them. And as she said, You don’t hold hands like that with someone you’re just friends with side note I just reposted Mauricio and don’t even know the girl’s name. His Dancing with the Stars partner just did a video saying nothing’s going on. We’re all crazy bae. Amanda they were recapping there.
are intense, weak, and they were just holding hands. Amanda, don’t you? It’s funny because I have a colleague who is a man and we’re very good friends. I mean, we’ve worked side by side for over a decade and it just made me laugh cuz I was like I have never held his hand. We’ve got out to lunch. Like
I can’t even count how many times and we have never not one time. And we’ve had intense workdays. Trust me. We’ve never held hands. So it just nollie I was like these fucking assholes. I know. Seriously. I don’t know. I just I did think it was very interesting when Kyle said you don’t hold hands like that with when someone you’re just friends when Teddy even said, like, Dude, you’re in LA. Everyone knows where you are. Like, like in the middle of Beverly Hill. Right. But I do think it’s interesting because Andy had previously asked her about her relationship with Morgan, Wade, and she denied that there was a romantic tie, blaming it on Morgan’s tattoos. Yeah, that was hard. But guys, like I don’t say in my like, I have some very, very close girlfriends. I don’t sit in their laps all the time and post pictures of that either. So I thought that was a little bit rich. But I have to tell you that we’re seeing such a different Kyle. Just in this first episode, and watch what happens live that I wouldn’t at all be surprised if she was with Morgan. I don’t know why she isn’t confirming. But I have a theory Amanda and cocktail. Okay, hear me? Hear me out. Is it possible that Mauricio and his dance partner it is a fake story and maybe the handholding was even for people to speculate? Dancing with the Stars has done this before where they push people together to keep the viewers intrigued. Yeah, but that’s not really why he was doing it. Is he trying to throw us off the trail of Lesley Baga who is the long haired beautiful woman who played Tony Soprano’s mistress, and when she went to see him at Dancing with the Stars a couple of weeks ago, and then he was out to dinner with him and his parents. Her arm was around him. We discussed this on the pod it is obviously not his dad’s girlfriend. So why were they so cozy? Are they throwing it out there that he’s with the dancer to throw us off his trail? When he’s actually in a more serious real relationship with Lesley? I mean, yeah, that’s totally possible. Kyle’s hurt, is it helpful? I mean, is it possible that he’s just a dirtbag and he’s finally being exposed? Yes, that’s also possible. And he may be his screen and bow. You know, if all these sources are to be believed, and I quoted a couple things, they said, I also had a source who’s like, in the biz. And before it came out, I asked him because I have asked people and there’s so many things people tell me that I don’t post because it’s like, it’s not relevant at the time. He and I distinctly remember when I when they posted that they split, this person said to me, he was like, I mean, I’ve seen a reseal out, like at bars with women like it’s a thing. Yeah. So
I think the hurt with Kyle isn’t just over a one night fling. I think that maybe she’s just sick of how he is and who he operates as and maybe she did put up with it for a long time. And she’s just turned around now and said, Fuck this.
Yeah, yeah. And I say good for her because she she does seem different. Yes. Both on the show. She seemed different. And then on Watch What Happens Live. She seemed different. And I think she’s like, fuck this shit. I’m tired of it. And I’m not putting up with it anymore. Totally. But since we’re still talking about Watch What Happens Live. Did you notice Andy kind of like making some faces and rolling his eyes when Teddy was talking? He looked like they were points where he looked absolutely disgusted by her. And I have to tell you, I don’t think it’s fair. Like I get what people saying about her being a trihard and stuff, but
I don’t think it’s fair for Andy to do that. And it definitely was noticeable.
You know, I don’t know. Cocktail. There’s no I’ve been a fan of Teddy. I liked her on the show. I’ve always been a fan and like listening to her her on her podcast. I really like her. I think that show how’s it like it is I think I know what people don’t like about Teddy. She’s like, very literal. And she doesn’t have much of a sense of humor. She really doesn’t. I get like, because I feel that way about her but it doesn’t mean I dislike her. She’s just that like, playful or fun. She’s very like, these are the facts. This is what it is. She’s very much like type A. I work out I eat this. I am type A and I
don’t have that much funny things to say. And I think that people kind of are like, with her. Yeah. And she also said that Sutton has vodka in her purse 24/7. I mean, okay, I was searching, because we posted that one of the Beverly Hills ladies has a drinking problem and always has vodka in her bag. So you remember, we posted that a long time ago, and a bunch of people messaged me, they’re like, Yeah, I have to find that. I’m like, I know. For those of you that wonder why you can’t search for things by name, we do put tags in, but a lot of times, I’m not 100% sure who it is. And B, if I put it so that you can click Sutton’s name on Bravo and cocktails.com and search her stuff. I’m getting sued.
Sutton gets $300,000 a month in alimony. Plus, she got four of their homes, one in Venice, one in Augusta, one in whatever, four different homes plus she got all of his points. I mean, part of it will be past all of his travel miles and he I’m sure he’s some guy with a lot of miles plus she got a 41% stake in a lumber company he owns and a large stake in another company. Sutton’s got real true fuck you money. And a follower told me her friend Jennifer Tilly was married to one of the creators of The Simpsons, so she probably has fucking money too. Mm hmm. I do want to touch since it came up on what Sutton was saying, because, you know, when she said, you know, we both worked when I married my husband, and then I got pregnant and he said, You’re not going to work anymore. And she’s like, you know, then we get divorced. Or then you know, you took my allowance away. She’s like, I couldn’t even believe I had an allowance. And she’s like, I realized, I let this happen. I was like, wow, like, I’ve seen it happen, right. You know, there’s like, I have a lot of people who go through a divorce. They’re like, Wait, what happened? Because we were equals, and now I’m like, having to fight for support. And I’m having I’m struggling to get back into a career. And anyway, I thought that was really interesting, which I did too. Yeah. And then Teddy just said, she’s got like interpersonal, Teddy hates, because Teddy, Teddy was pissed. She stayed on the show, and she didn’t and she called her boring. Well, I enjoy that. And Kyle didn’t say she doesn’t have vodka in her purse. Kyle just picked up her drink and tried to have as neutral of a neutral look on her face as possible. One, one last tidbit on Beverly Hills, because we’re going to be talking all the Beverly Hills for many weeks to come. Yeah, I did think it was interesting when they did the flashback of Kyle like shaking. Was it Sutton like that night when they were out drinking and she was like, I stopped drinking. She’s like, Was that an alcoholic? I don’t know. But it didn’t serve me. And you kind of do you remember Kyle acting wacky. So people stopped drinking for all sorts of reasons. You don’t need to be an alcoholic where it’s ruining your life to whatever. Yeah, so totally agree. Okay, so, switching gears a little bit. This week, we learned for certain that former housewife, Caroline Manzo, her daughter, Lauren, and her husband Vito are officially getting divorced. So this might be one of the most asked questions I get. And I have to be, I mean, honestly, for some reason, it always made me uncomfortable. The reason really is because they’ve been off the show for years, and Lauren has not at all returned to a public life. So I never felt the need to answer it. Although I did know that they had split. And I think for me, it was a little personal. I feel like I can relate to Lauren’s family. You know, I have a brother I had a overbearing Italian mother. We’re not that far apart in age. So I guess it was like more of a personal reason for me and also listen, if they had if they had restarted Manzo or whatever. And she was pretending to be with Vito, I would have posted it because that’s what I do. If you’re on reality, and I get it, I’m gonna post it, but she wasn’t on reality. Right. So there we go with albies wedding in Italy, and they’re my inbox Wang. Are they divorced? Are they divorced? Are they divorced? Long story short. She actually sent me a message and was like, you can post this because she knew I knew because people had sent it and she was asked me if I knew and I said, Yeah, but you’re not on TV. So I haven’t posted so she was like, listen, it’s going to be coming out you can post this I don’t know. She messaged other accounts and said you know what I mean? I don’t know I don’t have a special relationship. I don’t know them in person. Let’s not get the whole Oh, that’s why you don’t like Theresa started. It’s no it’s because you’re you’re Lauren Lauren. That’s who you are. Italy is so nice right now. I can’t even tell you. The reality is
What happened was the sun or whatever news outlet looked and he had filed what people don’t realize is in actuality they’ve been separated a long time. They mediated everything amicably they agreed upon everything prior to veto filing. And that was just a matter of that was just a legal process like they it was just a formality. It wasn’t oh my god, he filed right before the wedding to screw her. This had been a long time in the making. And now it’s just a matter of going through the channels and they call parents they have a according to law, and they call and then she came out and basically said exactly what I posted, which is that they’ll always be family. Their primary concern is their daughter and her health and happiness. And that’s the end of it and they’re fine. So good for them. Yeah, I agree. I was just gonna say good for them too, because I think divorce and co parenting is not easy, but you know the fact that they’re doing an amicably and that they also tried to keep it private. I think. Good for them. Kevin cry you can probably learn Oh, eat your heart out Kim and cry.
Okay, should we talk about winter house we also had that premiere this week. Oh my god. So we have a whole master thread and cocktail party with all sorts of intel from this season. I love the first episode. Danielle was really open about her split and her heartbreak from that asshole Robert, listeners know how I feel about Robert he really did her dirty. I mean not even not even because he’s inboxed me encouraged me out which also is why I don’t like him. But she she even mentioned how she went which we had heard about and posted that
she she went to Aspen when he was working there with the hopes they would get back together ahead of the winter House Trip and she simply said that he let her know it wasn’t happening. And I can tell you I heard he was a real dick quite cruel. He accused are following him around like you guys were together for three years. You were talking marriage. She’s not following you. She’s like, loves you. Yeah, it’s nice to see her getting in her groove flirting with the guys in the house. I’m here for it. Yeah, I just think it’s interesting to see her on her quote unquote own and in a new environment. I think it it really proved to me that she is a reality star on her own and she wasn’t just you know, on summerhouse to be Lindsay’s number till totally. She’s a cool chick. She’s the kind of girl she’s a girl’s girl she’s down to party. I would love to party with her the coming attractions show us a few things that we’ve posted about short shows up playing his whole victim role and I loved and yell just calling him out on his bullshit. She she’s like, oh, please like you’re not as bad as she says the confessional. He’s not as bad as Sandoval but he’s complicit he knew Fuck him. He’s not a victim. We see him flirting with Katie from below deck. I mean same name as his axe. What are the odds? We know they hook up he was seen in the airport when he had to travel from winter house back to Cali to to film Vanderpump reunion. He bumped into a COC problem cocktails follower who told he told he was in love with someone that’s Katie. We know she visited him in LA after but I assume that’s over because I haven’t heard anything about them being together. Discover pine melon, Denver and boulders. Go to community grocery app. Enjoy fresh, locally sourced foods delivered straight to your door hassle free with free same day delivery seven days a week. Say goodbye to long lines at the grocery store and hello to convenience support local farmers and producers in the process while enjoying fair prices and quality ingredients. Use code iHeart for $50 off your first order, no strings attached and no subscription required. Download the pine melon app or visit pine melon.com and start making a positive impact on your local food system. Welcome to the Chevy lightning round guests the clues to win for Steam, Europe.
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Yeah, there was definitely a lot of chatter right around that and then we’ve heard nothing. Cory and Malia seem to possibly be a thing based on where we get what we could at least glean from coming attractions get the dinner he says he’s in a situation ship. One of our cocktail colors on Discord said Korea’s giving her the major IQ and I couldn’t agree more. That’s exactly how I felt watching him we and we also got Intel while they were filming that him and Malia were flirting. Listen, I do think it’s a tricky situation. I’m a girl’s girl all the way. And sure Malia is annoying I’m below deck but she
He doesn’t know Sam. She does. Sam isn’t there. She doesn’t know her prior. She’s never met her. And Cory openly says they’re not boyfriend and girlfriend. Malia is a single girl. So as far as her flirting with him, I think we do see her kissing him in the kitchen. Like, whatever. That’s not on her. That’s on him. Yeah, you can’t get mad at Malia for that. Definitely. So we see shit. We see sham who see Sam, show up and confront Malia, who does not back down. If anyone watches below deck, they normally is not going to back down. I’m interested to see how far the hookup goes. Because Sam and Cory were definitely together after that. I think they’re still together, although I get a lot of messages saying they’ve seen him on dating apps. So I’m not sure if they’re exclusive or if he’s just a cheater. Yeah. Well, I was thinking the exact same thing, because I’m like, wait a second, where’s the timing? Because we know that when our house was filmed in March, right? And then we know that Sam was on Watch What Happens Live and openly talked about her and Cory, who was in the audience being together and not appearance I looked it up was April 17. So, you know, Cory, like a little suspicious, you go from situation ship for six months, let’s say for the end from the end of summer house with Sam, in you know, end of 2020 You know, September 2022. Until March 2023. Then you go film winter house, where you’re conveniently not in a relationship. then a month later, all of a sudden, you know, summers around the corner and so summer house, and now you’re committed to Sam. Oh, and it also happened to be right around the same time that he was getting heat for all the transphobic comments coming out. And then we know he wasn’t asked to be on summer house. So yeah, you know, Sam, eyes wide open bave eyes wide open. Yeah, for real. There are so many fish in the sea. Sam go for somebody who is not on TV because you are adorable and deserve a great guy. Okay, so winter house did their premiere party earlier this week in New York City and people reported back Lindsay and Carl both there but avoiding each other
people that were there shared that car looked super skinny and not well, Kyle posted a picture and his coloring looked off very skinny. I can’t speak to whether it’s sadness I hope that it’s not anything more ashore said that Danielle and Lindsey didn’t interact, which lines up because there’s some rumor going around that after Danielle went on what would have been Lindsay’s Bachelorette, they kind of weren’t on great terms. Then Lindsay posted a picture of them today. Danielle didn’t repo who knows? You know, they have a little bit of a toxic relationship too. So on Watch What Happens Live with Kyle, who also the Kyle’s deliver this week on Watch What Happens Live cook? Yeah, seriously, cook and
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He confirmed what we had posted was that Carl didn’t intend to break up with Lindsey when he had that conversation. But it got very intense. And ultimately, he called it off. He even went so far to say as like, they were seeing a therapist and it got to the point where they couldn’t even have a civil conversation without an intermediary. And Carl was kind of like, how am I getting married? Like, how am I doing this for the next 50 years? But his original intent to start that Convo was like, Maybe we should, like postpone and work on this. And she was like hell to the no. And then it just ended in him. And yeah, I don’t know. I apparently he plans to go back to the house, if they’ll have them. I mean, he was with his PR in Charlotte. I don’t know what he brings to the table, but whatever.
Yeah, and he’s in a bad spot too, because it’s not like they can show him dating this summer. Like people will think he’s a complete asshole. I don’t know. I think Carl, I respect that decision. Right? Because if you’re you, you know, it’s your the rest of your life and who wants to be in fights all the time? Like, not fun, right? Oh, you got to respect the decision if that’s what happened. Again, going back to what we’ve said many times doing this on camera and surprising her that way. Not quite cool. Okay. Should we talk Roni? Really quick? I think I should touch on it. Yeah. Okay. So I you know, I brought this up last week that I thought the finale was a little strange, like it felt a little abrupt. It felt like just not your normal finale. And then I felt like the whole tone of the reunion this week was kind of strange. Like, I can’t think of a time I remember Andy ever asking these like super deep questions about the housewives, childhoods and how they felt about things growing up.
Like, can you think of a time like that? No, but I feel like
I feel that he feels and Bravo collectively feels like there’s a pressure for us to invest in these women to get attached. I mean, listen, they put a lot of money in advertising and resources into promoting the reboot, I think for Andy and Bravo, New York is his hometown. I mean, his hometown, St. Louis, but he lives in New York, New York City, like, what is Bravo without a good cast in their flagship city. So I do get it from that point of view. But what we need to see more of is their current day life next season in real time, and I think that they’re going to push for that for sure. Jessel was a star at the reunion. Oboe was just erratic. So far, they gave Aaron a hard time about being a pop star. It’s her job. I’m here for Aaron sigh. You know, the tone of voice. She says these things in the way she said Jessalyn Provet had no connection. She apologized to Bryn about the fact that she’s the one who told everybody about Ubers man. But then when Brynn started to be like, Yeah, but you continued this narrative like up until now. And you told every media outlet that I can’t be trusted and like basically slandered me. She dismissed her. I was like, Yeah, I’m done with you. She’s got lots of proof next season, that’s for sure. I mean, I hear that, unless for some reason, they didn’t ask her back. She’s coming back because she needs it and she wants it. And I just don’t know if she’s good reality television. And and I’ve said it before, it doesn’t mean she’s a bad person or anything. But yeah, I would say to not just the tone from sigh But the looks of disgust. Yeah, like, the way she looks down her nose. I don’t know how she pulls it off, because she’s a short, small person. But she does like and it’s just it was I wouldn’t want somebody like that in my life. Even if they were on my side, because that’s just, I just don’t get the feeling. She treats people very well. Like very, very dismissive. Very, you know, like, Brynn I didn’t realize that Brynn she and Bryn had not spoken in so long. And also what about her acting like she didn’t know what Brynn did for a living like what like brands like what are you talking about? You signed a deal with me with a vino I like I do brand marketing. She’s like, Yeah, that was seven years ago. Brands like Yeah, and I’m still doing that like what? Like and I still do brand marketing like what I don’t know, she’s got a lot on the line, man because she’s an influencer. People gotta like you, girl. Yeah, I don’t know. Don’t feel like I am going to be buying anything she’s selling anytime new.
Okay, so something came up this week that I wanted to share an update with you guys so on Lisa and Lenny from Miami, their divorce. So you guys know from listening. We’ve done a couple of deep dives on the divorce and on the prenup. And recently we even talked about, you know, Katarina and Lennie breaking up and then trying to hide it. But you might remember that recently, there was what looked like might be a settlement agreement happening between Lisa and Lenny and the divorce. But then levy in August, in an emergency petition, remember those words because we’re going to come back to it filed to rescind the settlement that they had agreed on. So in the filing Lennie asked that the settlement be confidential, and that, you know, as part of the agreement, the agreement that Lenny was trying to get rescinded, Lisa had also agreed to move out of the Miami mansion in September. Well, yesterday, I judge ruled that Lenny cannot resend his original marriage settlement proposal and that the court can enforce it and that Letty has to pay Lisa as promised the $125,000 He promised to pay her in moving expenses that she incurred. So what’s really kind of funny about all of this, I mean, obviously, I gotta say like, this is a pretty big win for Lisa. But what’s kind of funny is that Lenny apparently filed this emergency motion in reaction to Lisa taking some of the furniture that he wanted, as she moved out of their, whatever, $50 million mansion. He got mad because she took some of the furniture that he wanted. And they had just had an agreement like she could take a reasonable amount and I think something in their responses. She’s like, I think I took like 10 to 15% of what was in the house like very much reasonable and then Lisa
own lawyer points out it is this is what they say. It is an absolute abuse of the courts finite judge judicial resources for plenty to seek relief from the court on an emergency basis when the matters for which he is seeking relief are certainly not life or death matters. There are families in Miami Dade County with real emergencies that require judicial intervention on an emergency basis. Lenny’s emergency motion relates to household items like fake plants and pillows that he alleges he did not agree to Lisa taking from the party’s flat fake platform or marital residence fake plants.
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This fool this is the kind of petty bullshit that Lisa has had to deal with for most of her adult life like fuck that guy. I swear to God, like how how Kim and Croix have Lennie to abuse public emergency resources over a couch and a plant and a pillow. Another example so guys, another I think I may have mentioned this another reason he wanted to rescind his agreement is because he agreed to build Lisa a new home. I believe maybe somewhere in his cold heart. He felt a little sorry when he up and left her after a decade of marriage and two kids for his girlfriend mistress. But then he got jealous when she started dating her boyfriend Jodi. So that’s why he like and they were like, fuck you. You already agreed to it. The judge said Yeah. So you know when she was single and seemingly still pining over him he agreed to something and good for you, Lisa. You play the long game. You stayed single a few months. You got him to agree and then you went public with your hot boo. A source also reached out to laugh at the Mistresses PETA campaign noting that just last winter, she was in Aspen with Lennie posting pictures wearing fur and leather. She also gets filler and everything else which is all tested on animals. She has since taken down her Aspen for photos but I can vividly remember them both wearing for Montclair whatever jackets? Yeah, I’m curious how long they’re gonna last because that Hollywood dance has happened in the dance. You hear me? That Halloween? Halloween. The Halloween party is right or I’m not even I’m drinking Poland spring not sponsored by them. But I’m just there’s such clowns. Him and He really met his match. You know, good for him. He met his match a clown needs a clown.
And yeah, they’re not wrong for this. This relationship is almost done. I think it is done. I think they’re staying together for the party. Yeah, she lab grown is just staying in it for appearances with Lenny. I’m sure there’s anyway she has no way to go. Like Well, she may do well on only fans. I don’t know how you you know how you get I miss how you lose them and Katarina like, you know, even if she couldn’t have gotten into this relationship thinking like, you know, Lenny is going to be true to me. I you know, whatever. Lisa, you know, you’re getting out of this. If she comes out the big winner, you know if, while we’re never gonna know all the details of the settlement, she’s running a $32,000 a month place in Miami. I would infer from that that she is doing better than the original prenup would have left her had she not fought it. So I think you know what, like, she’s out of the marriage it they might actually be like free from each other. It sounds like if you know this settlement agreement, they both signed it so they she might be almost out of it and free and hallelujah. Good for her. Hallelujah. Cocktails. You guys are the best buckle up. This Beverly Hills Beverly Hills season looks like it’s going to be a wild ride. Winter house looks juicy. We have the New York girls trip. I think it’s coming on tonight. Is that tonight is that Thursday night. Oh, is it really even now I have to look
you would think I know these things but
I yeah, you would think I would too. But I’m getting a little overwhelmed right now because you know we didn’t even talk about Salt Lake City. We and then we have what they’re calling Bravo calm premiere week in a couple of weeks with what is getting its Potomac. I think there’s three shows that are coming. Oh my god. Did you see on the Potomac premiere trailer, they show footage of Juan in the salon but they didn’t use my specific picture. But Bravo and cocktails is the one who posted that picture of him in the salon and they like did like like it was almost like when you watch Dateline or something where they reenact something and it’s like kind of cheesy, and they were like, not actual footage like reenacted.
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