96. Jax and Brittany ; The Countess’ Billionaire; Is Kyle an island on RHOBH? Summer House: Is Carl Vindicated? What has us riled up this week

Brittany and Jax are separated. Here’s why we don’t think it’s just a PR ploy to support their upcoming VPR spin-off, The Valley. Jax blames “communication issues”, but of course we have some tea on what we’re hearing could actually be the cause of the split. Did Luann bag herself a french billionaire? Erin Lichy’s Hamptons home is renting for how much per month this summer? Summer House: We’re watching the demise of Lindsay and Carl’s relationship, and we’ve gotta say, Carl is being vindicated so far. Is Kyle an island among the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast? And is that why Kathy is at the reunion? The Real Housewives of New Jersey Trailer is out – and despite what we know about the divided cast, it looks like we’re in for a good season. 

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails but you better believe we’re going to spill the tape. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com And as always, it’s all alleged and just for fun. We do not verify our blinds be And I’m Amanda let’s get into this week’s tip
what what’s up caught tellers and Miss Amanda HyVee Hi caulk Taylor’s so fun to be back in kind of back in the swing yet we were just chatting about trips and like in life and shopping and I’m like oh my god, can we save this for the pot? I really think I’m going to send Kyle cook and Amanda Betula cook an email or a DM because do I drink Loverboy almost every time we record yeah lets you do it looked QA but I didn’t do it which my favorite? I think this is like one of their originals lemon iced tea. I just love it because honestly it tastes like an iced tea.
Which I haven’t rule. I don’t know if I don’t know if you know this rule. I don’t drink any caloric beverage other than coffee which coffee is very low in calories and you just put a splash of milk or whatever. Unless it’s alcoholic so I will like have a real iced tea. I drink seltzer like regular plain seltzer water. I occasionally have a Diet Coke. Yeah, occasionally like I could fountain soda. Oh my god. I just said this at dinner. I was at a dinner thing last night. And it was a McDonald’s franchisor a guy who owns a bunch of McDonald’s sitting next across from me at this dinner party and I was like Diet Coke from McDonald’s is the backbone of My Love Languages. It is if you bring that to me and that like that is like breathing like Joe Malone candle like I will get just as excited. Tell me that you haven’t had a bad day and drove through a McDonald’s drive thru just for a fountain soda. Oh, it takes the edge off for me. I don’t know why. Like if I’m like busy like the first time I kind of got back I stopped drinking all day at drinks for like 13 years and then I was having a day where I was like, getting ready for a kid’s birthday party and like running all over town. I was like, I am going to get a Diet Coke from McDonald’s and it worked topia
Jonathan, and it makes us a better diet. So and but like, my problem is then I also get french fries, or I’m hungover, I get a big Diet Coke and a sausage biscuit. Oh, like I really should not like I probably I always, always more than I should. But I’ll see I go for the cheeseburger over the fries because I figured it’s the same like fat and calories. I just prefer the cheeseburger and posiada and a little protein. Yes. Good thinking. So, I want to start by talking about Britney and Jack’s because that has been we’ve talked a little bit about it last week. We’re gonna pick it up, because, you know, they announced that well, she announced that they are taking the separation. We see Jack’s coming out of the gym. He’s like, Oh, I’m surprised you guys are here or no, she’s moving back in is what he says. But that then she goes on TMZ and says no, that’s not true. We’ve been hearing just from a lot of COC Taylor’s both, you know, you and DMS and then us on Discord. People are saying is this really just a ploy to get people to watch this new Valley show? So Lala was on Watch What Happens Live This Week. And she looked fantastic, by the way. Also, Amanda? I think I mentioned it to you, but I had heard she was doing IVF but I didn’t. I made the decision a while ago to like not speculate on that stuff. I think we’ve talked about that on here. But congratulations to Lila I’m so happy for her. So you know it’s glowing. She’s just seemed so thrilled to be growing her family. And did I say glow, I meant glowing. She’s also growing. So happy for her. I’m really happy. I just think it’s super cool that because you and I both know how frickin hard it is especially that first three months when you have a new baby and like the for her to, I think have the bravery to say, I still want to do this. I want to do this for my daughter so that she has a sibling close and age. I just I find that to be very, like amazing and very unselfish on her parks. Something that I don’t know that I could make that choice knowing how hard that is. Well, she hasn’t you that strong support system. She does. So let us she’s got her mom and her brother. But financially it’s on her. You know, and yeah, that’s of course, always. Top of Mind, right? Because yeah, kids aren’t cheap. No, they are not but let’s hope she’s getting like a night nurse or something because I’m like, that’s the other thing. It’s like, right? She can’t yell at our mom and be like help me in the middle of the night. Right? Or maybe she can but I doubt she can right so
I just think it’s incredibly it’s I look up to her for making that decision. I think it’s awesome. Okay, so back to Bala on Watch What Happens Live. She said that know that this Jackson Britney thing? It’s not like a publicity ploy. There have been a lot of issues. And then when Andy is like, so when you talk to Britney, she goes Britney is one of my best friends. He says when will you talk to Britney? Like, what do you say? And she says, I say leave him. So it seems real. And Brittany herself said like, there’s a lot of things jacksie has to do if we were to get back together. Apparently Jack’s unfollowed Lala after that, watch what happens live? I don’t know, because of course, I’m blocked by Jack’s like every other Bravo account. But I have to agree. I thought it was real from the beginning. I mean, Brittany moved out. We heard she solidified another long term lease. So this is her second move. I think it’s a true separation. These are great lengths. I mean, Ariana and Sandoval are still living together. I’m kidding. I know. It’s a completely different scenario. I think she means business. I saw Jax tweeted something like all married couples have issues communicating true, but not all married couples physically separate and pay rent to get away from. So yes, single universe because we go ahead. That’s also a very brave move on Brittany’s. Part two, I want to say like Jax is in the house, the marital house and for her to take the step to go out and get something on her own. Again, like, you know, she’s serious. So she’s doing that. I have to imagine he probably refused to leave, which is why she did it. Because otherwise, I mean, as a woman, and mother, I feel that in that situation the man should leave. Especially because we’re going to assume based on the Intel we’ve received over since this was announced, you know, we heard they had issues. I had heard that they were apart for a while now. I don’t know because followers are saying and I don’t listen to their pod weekly, that they were talking a lot about having another baby but things
We heard we got I don’t know if it was an email or a source or a little bit of both. Apparently Jack’s has been out there saying, like, we’re not we’re having issues and we’re taking time apart, but we make money as a brand.
So their podcast, their show, their appearances. That’s the word I heard that they had been having issues that they are separated. And that production of Valley village was basically like, Listen, guys, you know, you’re separated, you’re not living together, you have to come out with this, because people are going to find out. Yeah, and I get why they wouldn’t be talking about that because of the podcast, which is making them money. And, and yeah, they, especially Brittany has to realize that yes, well, she seems to have never made an enemy in her entire life and seems like the sweetest person like she even probably realizes we have they have more opportunities as a family versus especially her separate and like Jax to because I think there could be a lot of backlash on Jax. You know, if these things that we’re hearing continue to get louder. You know, I always have an issue with something that you just said. So Jax is hugely problematic. We all know that. And I think I had a similar conversation, when we were talking about Ariana where somebody is with somebody who is so problematic, and they’re the nicest person and they’re, you know, such a sweetheart, I just like I have to laugh. Because how can you be in a marriage with somebody and be that different from them? You know what I’m saying on some level, either you’re the dumbest person in the world and blind to who they really are. Or you’re not so nice. And you have another side to you and your morals align with the person you’re with. Like, it has to be that and maybe no nicer on the surface, but clearly, she’s okay with how he operates. I see what you’re saying. Yeah. And we know, you know, she, she reached out to him on Instagram, like knowing who so I think there’s some ambition was there on her part. But I also think, I don’t know, I think a lot of people think that, okay, once we’re committed, like, we are gonna do this, we’re getting married. He’s gonna calm down. The Girl on Love was blind. I think she called it she’s like, I’m such a fixer. Whoa. Right. Like, ya know, that part? Yes. I’m talking about how he lashes out on people and yells at people and is nasty. Yeah. Like, yeah, on a certain level. If your husband or your wife or your partner, whatever behaves like that, and you marry them in spite of it, then you condone that behavior, right? It’s a good point. Like, it’s a very, very, it’s okay with you now. Did she grow up with a father who acted like that? Is that just normal? All those things could be but I just always find it funny when people are like, whenever people split, it’s like, my ex husband or my ex wife is the worst person. It’s like, rewind, you married them.
Yeah, well, right. It’s not the same as cheating. But I’m talking specifically about his behavior towards his friends and everything like that. I’m not even talking about the cheating. I’m talking more about how he operates in life. Right. Yeah. And I think you’re right. And I think you know, but maybe she finally got my feeling is she is just finally seeing him for who he is. I’m not putting her on a pedestal by any means. But I think she’s had some realizations, like, okay, no, he’s gonna continue being Jax. And I think Jax might kind of be realizing who he is to being like, you know, I went deep into this family man thing, but it’s not working. I think she also kind of got bamboozled because they went deep into it. At the same time, that the money dried up. And the appearances dried up. The show went on, he got, you know, he was on the show. So I think there was a good period of time where he was a family man, and they were home on Friday and Saturday night and they did to those things. And then when he had the opportunity again, he went right back into it. So to your point, good for her for being like, oh, no, no, no, no, like, you know, what I heard was from a follower her friend. Allegedly Jax flew out some girls to LA to hang out with him and Peter, as far back as this summer. I also heard that he’s he was making out with people in bars. I find it incredible that it’s mostly stayed under wraps. Yeah, but remember, you know, he could be in the VIP room at these bar. Like, you know what I mean? Like he may not be Yeah, if he was happening in front of hundreds of people. We would be getting pictures and
acts but you’re right like yeah, I don’t know. I hope she does what is best for her and for for their son that he does the same. Just put it that way. All right. So talking
theater pump. My favorite BTC my favorite by cheating crackers. Sheena, is basically egging Ariana to allow her to be friends with Tom Sandoval.
I think it’s in a clip for next week’s episode, but I saw this clip where she’s laying in bed with Lala and she’s like, and she knew I always wanted to Dancing with the Stars. But still when she got it, I congratulated her.
Okay.
Sheena is going to Sheena. You know, she wants to have it both ways. She wants a storyline. And the reality is, and we predicted this. Her and Lala are doing their best to make the show. Interesting. Right. Ariana has had all these opportunities. The money is rolling in Dancing with the Stars, Broadway. Tons of brand deals.
La Sheena, they need the show. Okay. Yeah, I think Sandoval out would make the season boring. Yeah, ultimately, we always have known that they’re going to choose the show. And that’s what we’re seeing and what we see in the previews for what’s to come this season. You know, it is our livelihood. Arianna does not have to accept that. And it seems they’re currently on good terms. I think it’ll be interesting to see when we get to the reunion because you know that there’s going to be stuff said that Ariana is not currently aware of right. Yeah. And I think that Ariana may be in a different place. It’s months after and she may
say to herself, like they gotta do what they got to do and I can be okay with them while not being super close. I think ultimately they’re gonna go to valley village Lala and Sheena. You know, they have to Sheena is the breadwinner. Lala is the breadwinner. They got to do what they got to do. Yeah, agreed. I just this episode was kind of hard for me to watch because she you know was criminally Sheena ng
so it reminded me of that, which by the way, I did a lot of research on like when Sheena fired from her podcast, do you know that story? Because I could not find one bit of anything on that story. And it just reminded me of another story where a editor from Vanderpump got fired for purposely featuring Sheena doing although cringy things and talk to you about it. Yeah, I’m like I couldn’t find anything about Sheena getting fired from her own podcast. Did you see anything with that? When what that was like back in the day? I don’t know. She’s like it was during COVID Where I gotten fired. That’s remember, she was like, This is what she’s talking about how Tom Sandoval gave her money during COVID. And then she’s like, I got fired from my podcast. And I was like, when did you get fired? Like Dynamite was one of them or that switch? She must have like, somehow had to switch like podcast networks or something. Because again, they’ve all made her pod much more successful, much more popular. She gets better guests Now, prior to scandal. Remember the original reason Katie Maloney was so pissed at her was because she used Tom Schwartz like their divorce to do a podcast and basically exploited their the whole thing. She created that whole Raquel thing. Yes, Sheena is doing what she’s willing to do whatever she needs to do to make Vanderpump Rules successful. And so if you’re that she’s a great reality personality, it doesn’t make a great friend. I would much prefer to be good friends with Katie Maloney. Reality is at the end of this season. It VPR is not brought back. Katie Maloney. I mean, I think she’s a more interesting person. I think she’s a smarter person. So she’ll have more opportunities in that regard. But she is going to have more immediate opportunities. She’s going to do it. She’s She will beg borrow and steal to get on that. On that spin off. She bought a house like she will do what she needs to do. She will embarrass herself on a podcast, she will exploit friends. She would exploit herself. She would exploit her marriage. She will do what she needs to do to earn money. And not everybody’s willing to do that. No. I don’t think I would be willing to do that. But no, you know she is and she just bought her second home. So yes, good for her. Congratulations on that honest I’m being dead serious. Like I think that’s great. And that she’s she’s able to do that and security not for her daughter and for her for her whole family.
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so you posted this week, a picture of Luann from Roni from Legacy walking down the street with God Sarkozy. I can’t remember his last name. He is apparently a billionaire, a Frenchman who is the brother of the former prime minister of France and also used to be married to Mary Kate Olsen.
I mean, little loves her Frenchman. She loves her. Eddie Richman man’s sore shared that the roadie Oh gee, we all love loves to be relevant, and she calls the paps herself. I mean, it isn’t a mistake. She was spotted out with a French billionaire who used to be married to a famous celebrity. This is a month after she hooked up with Joey bottles Bradley while he was in a relationship with Danielle, which she knew about because they were all watch what happens live together. Right? All press is good press for this. Oh, gee, Amanda. A lot of followers were saying why did he and Mary Kate divorce. And what we heard was, he moved his ex wife and kids into the family house with Mary Kate out in the Hamptons during COVID.
And so that was the final straw. I mean, this is obviously alleged in rumors, but Mary Kate ended up having to file an emergency divorce document because he was trying to kick her out of their house in Manhattan. So this was all during COVID. They’ve been split a while. Yeah, I mean, I say good for Lou. You know, I would love to see her find somebody and be happy with somebody because it really does seem like she earns. Yes, she loves men. And yes, she loves her flirt, but she really seems to me to be yearning to have a partner. I don’t know. I think she is yearning to have financial stability more so because I do think that Lou really likes dating and there’s an I’m not I don’t want to say
In a way to say that that’s bad. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. And she is a hustler. Okay, she will do her shows, and she will do all of that. But I do think that maybe she, I think Luann is one of the people who I could see being very comfortable. I think her marriage was kind of an open situation where where her husband was allowed to do what he wanted to do. Maybe she quietly could do what she wanted to do, or maybe not. But I don’t think I don’t think monogamy is that important to her? But I do think that she likes having a partner to your point. And I think she likes financial stability. I always got the sense when she split with the count, that he sort of surprised her not with the cheating but that he like ended their marriage. Like I think that when he was away and he was in France or wherever he was abroad. She wasn’t like
making sure he called her every night. After dinner like Marie, he was free to do what he wanted to do. And maybe that was their arrangement. I think she never expected him to leave her. Yeah, you know? Yeah, I think so too. But I was feeling so about her little French love interest, a little funny tidbit a cocktail or shared that. She lives out east and apparently he has a huge yacht in Montauk Shelter Island area. And
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You know because like if you have a house you’re still wanting to travel when your kids are off from school. So it’s like alright, we’ll go to Europe July and we’ll rent it out. $135,000 a month. Holy moly. Now, you know I’m from New York. I know all about rentals. I have friends whose parents and grandparents have had houses out east who have rented them and it’s always been a big price tag even on like bungalows, right? Right. But $135,000 my very good friends aunt lives out there and she has two properties and she would always rent her Southampton house which I would say I don’t know location wise like if it says desirable but I would say similar to Ramon his house right? Yeah, in
size and style and the pool. And she used to get, I don’t know, about 10 years back, I would say like $50,000. Geez, Ramona this summer is asking $245,000 a month? Wow. I mean, I’m glad for her. And guy is like in today’s dollars with today’s interest rates, like $135,000 would be like over a million dollars of mortgage payments for a year. She’s like that is. So if you think about that, like and who knows, I have no idea, no knowledge of what their either their mortgages are. But if they have a million dollars, you know that they’re paying and hopefully not at today’s rates. Hopefully they had the mortgage earlier, that can more than pay the mortgage, and the taxes and probably some of that, like people where do they hire a year of yours? It makes so much sense. I mean, that’s, yeah, listen, I have I know people who are, you know, husbands are handy and what have you. And they buy things out there, they fix them up and they for the first five years, just rent them out even in the offseason, obviously, you get a lot less in the offseason. Yeah. And like within five years, the house is paid off. And they just have to, you know, pay taxes and, and whatever the utilities and stuff are. Also these prices, they mean, they may be asking this, but we’re also in March, it’s way ahead of season. So they’re shooting for the stars. If they don’t get that, you know, they may they may decide not to rent it, they may be like, well, if I’m only gonna get 40,000 Then I’ll stay all summer. It did make me nervous about some of the Summer House House and our cocktail or looked into it. And I think she’s also in real estate and she said that house is not available for rent. So that’s a good sign that there’ll be filming because I really haven’t even like reached out to sources regarding summerhouse and what that’s going to look like. Yeah, well, I mean, I don’t know I feel you posted this. I think it was you who posted some that somebody wrote like Vanderpump Rules and summerhouse it’s just a rule. They can’t be good the same season.
Why don’t you eight but it wasn’t yet. But I agree. It’s so true. I really resonated because I’m like, it’s it’s Yeah, last year summer house was not my favorite. But the season so far has been so good. And like Vanderpump has not really been lighting me up. So I’m super excited to watch the next episode of summer house tonight. Because last week, Lindsay accused Carl of being on Coke, not just to his face. She also told Gabby that his behavior was reminiscent of cocaine Carl, slash more life, Carl behavior. And we all saw him and heard him on the phone seeming perfectly sober while she was clearly intoxicated. You know, for me, I think the most horrific part, which Danielle also said on Watch What Happens Live? Was her doubling down the next day. Yeah, this is her fiance. She knows she’s on camera. Now. It’s terrible for her to say this about him, even when she’s drunk. And then you know, he calls Gabby, he sounds fine. But the next morning she goes in. And she still insinuates that he wasn’t sober the night before. She then tried to twist what he texted her that I’m sober now like, you know, we all watched it. Yeah. And, you know, we had posted that we heard this, and I’m sure we discuss it on the pod back when we got the Intel when we exclusively broke that they had, you know, they had cold up there. Yeah. And to be honest, it’s one of the things that we got, which we always get things and sometimes the details aren’t all true. And this was one of the things where I was like, There’s no way so seeing it. I was shocked, but it was also worse. Because I do think and I want to get your I think you’ll agree. I think most of you guys will agree. I think it’s one thing when you’re drunk and acting irrational and we’ve all been there to say something but then sober to double down on it. Like it was yeah, it was very indicative. What’s the word I’m looking for an indicative indicative
of who she is in her core. I somebody who always has to be right regardless. So do we as a win the argument and it’s like, I can’t even imagine like, there’s so much tape for like to roll back on and look and be like, you know, Lindsey, why can’t you just like work on yourself a little bit here and realize that sometimes you’re fucking wrong, you know, and like, I can’t imagine that must be so fresh.
Writing or have been so frustrating for Carl to be in a relationship with her too, because she’s one of those people who when she drinks, she can go a couple of ways she can go into party Lindsay or she can go into activated Lindsay, it seems like she goes into activated Lindsay mode quite a bit. And we all know somebody like that, right? Who just kind of wants to get like, kind of gets in fights and like picks fights and like that’s, and then not only that, she’s got to be right about it. So i don’t know i But the difference with her is that then the next day, she sticks with it. And it is like likely. So Susannah be right, yeah, right. I think that in that moment,
if she would have come in and acted normal, Carl probably was prepared to completely let it go and discuss it off camera, but he just couldn’t even do that. It’s like, this is my thing. Is it possible? And even if this is the case, okay, this is your fiancee, and you should not expose it. But
do we think that possibly he has broken his sobriety? And she was truly nervous in that moment? Or is it just Lindsay being Lindsay? Or do we think maybe he had broken his sobriety at some point? And then Lindsay was throwing in his face? Yeah, I know that. This is what I think. I don’t know. I would hope that he didn’t. But you know, sobriety is a day to day journey, which is what people always say. So I think that he is well within his rights. If that did happen, he did want it publicized because not only for himself, but he has a lot of people watching him in their own journey, that maybe it was, whatever, whatever it is, maybe he didn’t want to let anyone down his family included. Or maybe he didn’t want to let down the sober community, whatever it is, it certainly is not her place to share that Beyonce friend. What have you. Yeah, if it is true, you and I both know that at the reunion, she is going to say on May 12. You broke your sobriety. And that is why I said it.
Yeah, she has. And I don’t think Carl will be able to do anything but say, Yeah, I did. Like, he’s not a liar. So I hope she does. I first I hope he didn’t fall off. Second, I hope if he did, she doesn’t do it. But I can’t imagine that if that happened. And she’s aware of it. She wouldn’t say it. To see our own ass. I just commend Karl’s patience knowing that and he said this right, you know, people will start to see why, you know why this actually wasn’t like such an abrupt breakup, that he has been able to just just be like, let’s just let it play out and see what you know, see what people see on the show. I really commend him for that. Well, I tell him because he has a very clear head and he knows what happened this summer. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think Lindsey is more like, let’s see what happens with editing and let’s see how I can argue my way out of everything. Right. And so then we see on the previews that Lindsey just decides to throw Danielle under the bus page. It looks like confronts Lindsay to say I you know, I think it was you that told the tabloids and the blogs that Craig page’s boyfriend got kicked out of Kyle and Amanda’s wedding, which page said again, was not true. And then Lindsey says that was Danielle that wasn’t me. You know, what’s interesting is of course, Lindsay’s party line is that she invited Danielle to the wedding and she hopes she comes and she hopes they can get their friendship back on track. In this moment, right. She’s still very much with Carl they’re still planning on getting married. She does not need Danielle.
And so she threw her under the bus because she wants to be okay with the rest of the girls and she wants Danielle for them to be mad at Danielle now. Even if Danielle is the one who said it, which I feel like if she did and I was gonna be like yeah, I did. And Lindsay was with me and we kind of both did whatever.
Let’s remember that. Danielle wasn’t friends with them that was on the heels of the Yellin. Sierra’s fallouts era and Paige are very good friends they very much weren’t friends they became friends. When? Summer before Yeah, when after after their wedding the following summer when Danielle had a full out with Lindsay. That is when she became friends with them. So I think it’s something where Danielle was like it was really fucked up. We weren’t friends. I shouldn’t have done it. And like I’m really sorry. And I’m sure she would extend that same apology to Craig I, from what I know, they’re all on good terms. But it just goes back to Lindsay doing what’s best for her in the moment.
Yeah, I mean, I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again. Does Lindsey have real friends? Or just opportunistic allies? Just opportunistic allies. I think that she has people that she likes. Right like I don’t think it’s like she pretends to like people I call think that at the end of the day, nobody’s more important than Lindsey to Lindsay. Yes. Are very Scheana esque. Yes. Very like this is why they make great reality stars like we’re saying all of this and it doesn’t discount the fact that yes, the show would be boring if everybody was like Katie Maloney or Danielle and had loyalty and all of those things but like, for every Katie Maloney and Danielle there’s got to be a Sheena and Lindsay because Yeah, makes you know the cogs in the wheel the cogs would throw. So true. Okay, so last night, we watched the second part of the Beverly Hills reunion. We see Kathy arrive and her fuzzy slippers and pajamas. And then we see them talking a little bit while they’re doing her makeup, but she hasn’t officially come on two sets. So something that’s kind of interesting is and we’ve been talking a little bit about this, but things are changing in terms of the friendships and the alliances because you know, they I don’t know where the name came from, but then they kind of call themselves this fox Force Five, which was Katie. Katie kya Hastati that is actually a very good name for them. For them. It is Kenny, Kyle, Teddy, Lisa Rinna, Erica and terete. So they were very much kind of running things. But now we have crystal Garcelle and Sutton as a quite solid Alliance. We know do reads and Kyle are seem to be on the outs. Or at least as of reunion time, Erica is loyal to Kyle and kind of to do reads but seems to be mostly okay with the others. We know Anna Marie was going to come in and you know, be Kyle’s friend, but ultimately just doesn’t. Doesn’t seem like she’s, she’s gonna last and be a strong enough presence on the show to really be of any help. So it’s just interesting to see Kyle really, for the first time, not kind of be in control or on the N with the majority of the women on the show you spent over here now AT T Mobile get four 5g phones on us in four lines for $25 A line per month when you switch with eligible traders all on America’s largest 5g network.
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it is and I think it’s also
it’s happening at the hardest time in her life. So it makes sense why we are seeing her in interviews saying I don’t know if I want to return. She doesn’t really have a ride or die. And
that is something I think is very important to her. And not only in the cast, but also at home. Right so you’re losing
your allies everywhere you need them during filming. Even during the LVP drama she had all that backup right? And so that’s why it was so easy for her to survive it. So everyone was wondering why the hell is Kathy coming to the reunion? Tada. Like putting these pieces together. It’s like Kyle is probably like can I have my sister
there and look, come on, you know, it’s gonna make a splash so Bravo’s like Yes. Um, so it was her backup. I’m sure she asked for Teddy. Probably.
Sure she got shot down. It’s a good though. I do think it actually also is not just
from like our standpoint it it also helps tie up a loose end. Right. Yeah. Oh, I agree because she was a flop come back and film this. Yeah. And she didn’t. And she didn’t. We and one more thing I want to say. When door wreath said
very in authentically seeming that everything was as good as it’s ever been with her. And Pete
did you see the looks that everybody exchanged on the couch? Yeah. Come on. Come on. Do you think everyone reacted that way? Because or do you think terete was being genuine? Or do you think they’re all rolling their eyes because they know,
they know something different? Or? I think it’s one out Tuesday attacks, I think either. They never really had huge problems. He had business in London, and it was a convenient storyline for her to act like they had problems. Or
they really had problems and they really still do.
Yeah, I don’t know which one it is. She did say he was sober for 50 days. I just feel like Dory is sort of sitting there grabbing at anything in the sky. What about Andy yawning at her for the third year in a row? It is I think she’s cooked. I have no Intel.
No one has told me she’s demoted or caught. But it’s it just seems fairly obvious. Yeah. And he said while to read the bullet points didn’t happen again. I mean, he has no patience. He had no patience for her. I mean, I get it. I have very little for her myself. And he asked her Are you on a budget like it? There were some I mean, and she couldn’t make it easy? No. Like it was. She needs this. She needs this. I mean, what is being boy George’s? Boy George is not exactly Beyonce. How much are you making? Like? Yeah, I agree. Okay, so Erica, just now looking back, like talk about a true redemption story.
I mean, I have to tell you, and I mean, I’m sure I’ve said this before, but prior to the whole time Gerardi, I love when Erica came on, I loved her. I loved right. I loved her. First of all, I loved her look, I loved her clothes. I loved her as a performer, i i Just hook line and sinker. I was all in. And then I really didn’t, I felt she was guilty of something of not caring. I think mostly it’s not like I thought she was gonna go to jail. And she actually committed the crimes, but I just felt like she lived this lifestyle off the backs of people who victims who were robbed of monies they were entitled to. And then watching the first part of better on blonde. I think it was very good for her image. I think she had a good season. But then last night watching, you know, she explained how for over 20 years she was married to somebody who she makes no and she never did that it was some hot and heavy romance. But she never had a father figure. And this was somebody that she thought was brilliant and successful and loved her and she trusted him. And the better on blonde spin off really showed that
she was deceived. And she was shocked and blindsided and that we were watching her grieve her marriage and her partnership to somebody and lose everything and then have to be on a television show because now it’s our only source of income
and sort of be accused of things that she had no part in. So it really changed how I looked at it. Now, she has that hard edge and this was the thing in prior seasons that made people really turn because in the spin off that we watched last night, there was a point where the production showed her a clip of the prior season ladies asking her questions and her answering viciously when she was like I don’t care about anyone but myself.
And in the better on blonde. She has that angry look and she says to the producer, none of these woman could have survived. I survived.
So it’s hard to see her as a victim because she doesn’t play into the victim thing. Right? So it really made me think it’s possible she was blindsided by, if not the whole thing most of it like
Maybe she didn’t. Maybe she thought he was very brilliant. And it wasn’t all on the up and up but didn’t realize he was taking actually from victims. I don’t think she was that interested in his loyal how things worked. And you know what I’m saying? Yeah, I think so too. I think she was happy to get the rings from car TA and the arts, and live in the mansion, and, you know, show up as Mrs. Gerardi at some of these events. But she lived kind of her own existence in parallel to him. And she would she said that, right. So I agree. And I think, you know, I gotta say, she was hands down. My all time favorite housewife before all the time stuff happened. I mean, she came in, she really changed the fashion game of all of the housewives. I think she really elevated like, I was totally there for it.
I don’t think she knew that Tom was stealing from clients. But I think the way she chose to handle it after the fact was awful. And she did not make it easy for us to believe her when she said she didn’t know. Right, he does have that hard edge. And that defensiveness and that demeanor. So I don’t know, I am really excited. I haven’t watched better at all on bond yet, but I just had to go. I thought I mean, really good. Her performance right at the White Party. Amazing. And like, I just have to say, like, look at housewives, right and the platform it has given women, let’s say, you know, to steal a Wendy Williams term, women of a certain age like Erica and Adriana from Miami have become pop stars in their 40s and 50s. Luann is a cabaret star. Teddy and Tamra make this podcast. Teresa did her cookbooks Sutton with her store. I mean, Garcelle and Kyle both had careers before but their careers have really taken off. Like
I was just thinking about this like with Erica that like, thank goodness, she did have this as a platform as much fire as she had to take. And again, I don’t think she handled it that well. But right, the fact that she had this kind of platform, it it really just pisses me off when we see somebody and this is a total tangent. But when we see somebody like Leah McSweeney come and try to ruin it for everyone, like look at what this platform has done. It’s it’s giving me No, I don’t glad you bring that up. Yeah, it just be a call out. It’s she’s trying to ruin it for everybody. And I am so happy that Andy put his foot down today. TMZ printed an article. And Andy came out and his lawyer said, This is bullshit. This is a shakedown. She thinks she’s going to throw out these baseless accusations with zero proof and that she’s going to get a quick payday off my back because I want it to just go away without that. I want a public apology. I want you to drop this because you have no goddamn evidence. First of all,
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So, I am very happy that because you know what, and listen, it is many times easier when lawsuits come when you’re a person of means to settle and shut people on them. But you know why?
Sometimes things are personal. And with Andy, this is personal, and he knows she won’t win in court. And he would rather go to court and pay his attorneys, then give her the settlement money. And I’m happy because at the end of the day, everyone’s asking, Oh, do you think this is going to affect Andy? No, I don’t. I don’t think this is going to affect Andy. No, I don’t either. And good for him. And yeah, at Lea doesn’t have the money to see this case through. She’s gonna have to drop it. She doesn’t have like, hundreds of 1000s of dollars to fight this all the way to court. Oh, she’s gonna have to eat crow and I hope she doesn’t get a red cent.
Oh, I don’t think she will. I mean, Annie just came out and said like, let’s go.
Yes, it and you want to know what the thing the thing about it is, is I just remember when her second season when she was changed apartments and was like basically planning to have this windfall, and then it didn’t happen. And so she’s pissed about that, like, everybody sees what you’re doing. It’s not anyone’s fault, but your own that you didn’t capitalize properly. Was robes. That was your business. You came out with robes. Okay, good luck with that, because I could get a robe on Amazon for $25. Actually, I have one. I’ll link it the most comfortable thing in the world.
You know what I’m saying? Like I ever Yeah, she wasted. She squandered her opportunity. People just didn’t like a lot of people just didn’t like her. And she didn’t. Yeah, she just failed where other women have succeeded. And she doesn’t like it.
Sounds a lot like brandy.
Yeah, I mean,
I think brandies situations a little different. A little different, because there is some truth to production expecting out to be this outrageous person. And then when things go sour, everyone’s like, Okay, you’re done. Yeah, I think Brandy is but again, like but so but you know, I have I have believed from the beginning that she crossed the line with Caroline. And the thing about it is is like in all walks of life in every situation. You have to know your audience. And Brandi lacks that common sense of knowing her audience, right read the room read the way she would be able to joke with say, Teresa from Jersey, or Sonia or Sonia. Sonia is a perfect person is not the same even Teresa like.
Like
it is mind blowing that any body would like jokingly try to make out with Caroline Caroline has been married since she’s like 19 probably slept with one man her entire life. Certainly there’s no late in life lesbian hints around her. On what planet? Does she want a lap dance from you? And does anybody believe that she was a consensual partner in any joke like, Caroline is not a housewife who we’ve seen get drunk and act silly. She’s not Kyle doing splits. She’s not Melissa Gorga having too much wine and dancing on a bar. Like, there is no world where anyone can picture I think Caroline Manzo have every housewife who who’s ever been on is the least like I could picture Vicki more than her. I could picture Ramona more than her like, you know what I mean? Like Caroline is like the mama. Like, she’s like the mama. She’s making the sauce. She’s with the husband. She’s with the grandkid. Like she’s not the one playing lesbian on a girl strap. Right? Right. And yeah, no, Brandy just can’t she can’t read the room. But yeah, I think. Um, yes. So I do though, think that sour grapes have colored the way that some people have reacted.
And some of the things that they’re doing right, and I think there’s some sour grapes on Brady’s part, although, like I said, different situation from Leah. Well, and once there’s one yellow suit, why not me? And I also think that Andy had to come out. Because who’s to say that Peggy the 100 housewife won’t be next with a decade old complaint like he had a he had to put his foot down and be like, Oh, no, no, we’re not. We’re not doing this. Yeah. Good, old
Peggy. Okay, before we go, let’s quickly talk about the jersey trailer that came out this week. So even though and cocktail hours no, there was very much a divide in the cast, and that there was no interaction between Teresa and Melissa, we see, we do see that it is a divided group just by watching the scenes from the trailer and who’s filming together and who’s not.
There’s just some interesting things happening. So, you know, cocktail hour is new, those two that Jackie and Jen have become friends with Theresa. There’s some drama around that. But then starting with Theresa, we see what could be some cracks in her marriage and some possible financial concerns.
Okay, so
we see
Danielle say the alcohol
in the house, there’s not a lot of calm.
Now, Danielle was friends with Teresa. Then we hear Jen, Aiden say every time I talked to her, her stomach is in knots. Then Dolores says she’s not doing good.
Then we see Louis say to her, I want it to be better. And Teresa says it’s not going to be better. So I’m gonna I’m gonna break down what I think. I think some of this is creative editing. Obviously. I think Louie’s pulling in the in the little bit between him and Teresa. I think he’s pulling the let me look like a good guy here talking about her brother. Yeah. And I think Teresa’s tone. That’s the tone she uses when talking about her brother Chiquinho doing this like, and in that tone. I think there’s also an annoyance to Louis because she even has to realize like that he’s just doing this for TV, because I’m sure there’s no other moment except when a camera goes up that he ever mentioned wanting to broker peace with her brother. Right. Right. Okay.
Now, the Danielle crowbrough thing. She shares negatively. Yes, she was in the hall, but we do know that they have you know that she’s no longer friends with that. Okay, so that could be but there has to be some truth to it. Right. So I think there’s Listen, we know Louise personality. So we know there’s some truth to that. I think Aiden’s comment could be in relation to something other than her marriage. Like I think that as they’re filming Louise ex fiance is suing him for that whole situation where
she claims he sent someone to be a client and basically was trying to like get dirt on her or whatever. So I think that Jen, Aiden is a is when we see it. It’s gonna be like, Oh, she has knots in her stomach because she’s dealing with this lawsuit. Right? Yeah. Now Marge saying on the phone to her husband, Joe. Louis pissed her money away. While it might be true their enemies, so I don’t think anyone’s going to take that for Bible scripture. Right. But I it’s so the spin is going to be that
the stress in our house that was discussed, and the stress between them is all because his axe was suing him.
My counter to that is, if Louis is so wealthy, and so successful, and so innocent, why stress over something? If you have to give the girl a couple bucks, you gave her a couple bucks if you know it’s not true, and you’re not going to get in trouble. And nothing big is going to come out from it. Why so stressed out?
Yeah, I mean,
it is stressful to be in a lawsuit regardless. But yes, I agree with you, but to let him pop your love bubble.
Yeah, I had the same thought. I think there’s some creative editing going on. I don’t think there’s going to be like, knowledge or any kind of actual real news that Louie has taken all of Teresa’s money. I just don’t think Teresa is gonna go down that easily. I think she’s invested too much, and lost too much to give up on her marriage to Louis without a fight. So I don’t know. I guess we’ll see. She definitely seems like loyalty above everything else, even when there are a lot of extenuating, possibly criminal situations like there were with her and her ex husband Joe. I mean, she covered his cheating for a decade on television. Yeah, even when, even when it was plastered on tabloids she lost friends over the fact that they mentioned what was in the tabloid like it. Yeah.
I mean, she was going to court denying what she was being sued for. It wasn’t a girl
She actually was sentenced. And even in this trailer, you see her place it on Joe. The reality is your name was on those documents you either knew or
yeah, if you didn’t know, if you didn’t know that your husband and you couldn’t afford the house you were in,
then that’s a special kind of rock you’re living under.
Like, do you know what I’m saying? Like? Totally.
Yeah.
I agree. So Melissa, interestingly enough, we see her being really happy and then sending Antonia off to school looks like somewhere in Delaware.
So it’s such a juxtaposition, right? Because we see
last season the stress of the Gorga and the Judy che relationship and how they were all stressed out. And then this season, we’re seeing a still tense a still crying a still stressed Teresa.
Without her brother and Melissa involved in her life at all, this is still her reality. So spin it how you want. But the reality is this was the Teresa after the first couple of seasons of Jersey in the beginning, when her husband and her got in trouble. And then after jail and once Joe was gone and they were split, she was happy again and then Louis came and she was back to tense crying stressed yet. The gourd is reality seems happy. They seem to be having fun. They’re sending their daughter off to college. Teresa is too but of course Teresa has got all the other stress and stuff now. I will not argue with tree stumps who say Teresa’s it’s always about Teresa. If it wasn’t Teresa will go by Yeah, but sadly, it’s for bad reasons, guys. Yeah. Like, you know, yeah, it’s good TV for us to watch but this woman is in turmoil still. Right?
Yeah, I can’t help but agree and Louis just doesn’t he’s not doing a lot for himself in terms of making his image seem better. You know, like saying I’ve got Bo Deedle downstairs at the reunion like that had to be one of the like, nails in the coffin for him and for how much one of the things he’s getting at and the other ladies have storylines and we’re gonna get into that because you know that we love Jersey over here.
But tonight we record on Thursdays. Amanda, its traders and we don’t know anything. We don’t know anything. I told my source do not send me any spoilers. I don’t want to know. But what do you think? Are you up to date? Yes. Oh, yeah. Can we discuss CTS the look on CTS face and what he said to Phaedra last week? Yeah, that was one of my favorite moments to watch and he said like, I have a suspicion that the person that you came here to be as the exact opposite of who you are in real life. I gotta tell you and I said this on Discord to the cocktails and like I am finally I am on the CT train. I’m like that quiet swag that he has I have bought in be you have oh, I have well I have come to your ways after that I have to use us and you what I have to do is I have to send you the clip I saw of back in the day when he was on Watch What Happens Live his face research I used to I still think listen I still think he’s a beautiful man but oh he was a little bit younger oh my god
it’s so good guys treaters I will good if you’re not Oh my God. You know what you and I never discussed right quickly before we sign off the fact that when they were filming the married to Mad reunion I got that intel that Apollo was good to be there. I got a picture. I posted it for cocktail hours. He was there. I know he’s a bad guy. But Amanda, you know, I’m really excited to see it. Wow.
I know you are. Oh my god. I mean you were to you know he’s here regardless. He is very handsome. I I have a hard time with the felon part.
I mean, right. He is very handsome.
He’s very handsome. Here’s the thing. I don’t like the felon part.
But he’s a smart felon.
I’m gonna stop I’m gonna stop before I go too far. I’m only teasing guy like any felons, but um
That ones are worth you know easy yeah tolerate obviously who love you guys yeah watch traders watch it with your kids it’s I didn’t like the thing that’s a bummer for me is like seven watching with my kids and so like I’m not gonna watch it tonight I’m gonna have to wait a little bit so I’m gonna be like oh I don’t want to know who like I don’t want to know anything I also want to say John very much came to appreciate him and his like last speech like just there was so much good it’s it’s such it’s so good it’s so it’s so we’ve shared some rumors of casting I will guys I will share to you guys when I have it more firmed up I do you guys should know this by now I do thankfully have very good sources for the challenge type shows. So we will have that cast. It’s still being ironed out but the names in the mix are good. I just don’t know that they’re good like this cast was magic sometimes things just click right and i It’s so hard to top this because it was just you pick a group of people but then you can never nobody could have predicted that CT and Phaedra would have the chemistry that they ended up having right you know what I’m saying like that no casting company no production company could know that so it’s like you get lucky
yeah and light on strike twice yeah that the cast the casting company that did did the it it was just so good. And like I watched Sandra on survivor and Parvati on Survivor like all like all of that was so good and like pulling John out of out of Parliament like post Parliament whatever like he was I just there’s just it was it was lightning in a bottle. It’s such a great cast.
Absolutely sure I woke up and realize the show a guy and I love what you re broke up and realize, wait a minute. This is not a girl strip.
That was an interesting moment to me too though. Like when she was like look really looking at Phaedra Yes. Phaedra is like they both you can just tell they both value their friendship so much. And she’s like, I really don’t think fader would lie to me in theatres. Like, I really can’t light it. Sure Ray and like I like that point. Ager put her sword down because you know what? She also couldn’t lie to CT sheep. She totally once he said that to her. She folded she just she smiled at him and she was kind of like I’m cooked and I’m okay with it. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. Such a good show, guys. What they love you guys, we love you next time.