Big gossip about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and a possible divorce or two plus what we’re hearing about casting. We watched the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives reunion. Hear what we thought about the show, and what we thought about the reunion’s new host, VPR alum and reality tv star Stassi Schroeder. What’s in the future for SLOMW? We’ll tell you what we’re hearing. We have updates on Amanda and Kyle from Summer House…and we have thoughts about his “statement”, plus some more tea on the upcoming season of Summer House.
What’s up? Cocktails, Amanda, how you doing? I don’t want to say I’m barely hanging on. I feel like every week we’re like, we’re done. It’s just some travel I had, like, I took one of my kids on a travel trip, because everybody needs to go on a travel sports trip. Because everybody needs a travel sports trip. In December, 1 of all, when I spoke to you this weekend and you told me that, I was like, stop it. Yeah. Like, the nerve, the commitment of all of us, just parents in general, especially around this time of year, it’s just anyway, but and then, like, trying to get together with, like, your friends for the holidays and stuff like Friday I have, which I’m so excited for. My kids have been home with the flow all week. I was sick last week. How are you doing? They’re all right. My girls up and rallied quicker than my boy, but they’re both like on the mend. It was kind of good, because I caught up on all my shows at the Diddy documentary, which we’ll get to, if not on this, on the cocktail pod, right? I have to be honest, I had a lot of intel on that. Cocktailers know in my subscription site, and you and I both know I stopped posting it. Yeah, weird things are happening to my Instagram, and you never know where it’s coming from. But like, he’s very powerful, he scares me. But now that everybody’s talking about it, we might as well, John, everybody is talking about it truly. So the 50 Cent of it all, we did plan to start with the Secret Lives of Mormon wives reunion. We got some urgent Salt Lake titties, titty. Oh my god. Oh my God. We are always a clean podcast, guys. Yes, we’re no titty, no titty. Tracy’s not here. There’s no titty. So we okay. I had heard, I shared with you that there were some rumors that Bronwyn at the reunion announced that her and Todd were separated, or separating. I needed more confirmation. That’s a big thing. Two additional sources over the last couple days told me that they heard the same if this is true, and again, until we see the reunion, we cannot truly know. I say that about all you guys. Know. I say that about all situations. I’m just as shocked as everybody else when it is true. But the sources who told me, like especially this last confirmation I got last night, I’m pretty convinced that it happened. So now I want to hear your thoughts on it, but some of my wonderings are, is this a Kelsey and Camille situation? Did he gift her housewives? Was this her out, you know, like, was she not 100% happy and she figured this would give her freedom and some financial stability out, hopefully, outside.
Whatever settlement she gets, or were they fine? And the show highlighted things for both of them that caused them to split. Okay, here’s what I think. I don’t think that Bronwyn came on to the show knowing that they were getting divorced. I never saw contempt towards him from her. I really think that she loved, and may still love him, but I do think that, I can’t help but wonder if Todd was feeling a little like, Okay, this might be good for Braun, you know, like, maybe a little bit of a Camille and Kelsey situation, because his end on his end, yes, because, you know, the show does put a big spotlight on couples, and when there are issues, it obviously puts a real big spotlight on that too. I do think that even coming after her first season, where she went and looked back and saw some of this stuff, I think she was still really protective of her marriage and seemed to want to work out, but saw what the viewers were seeing. Like, how can you not right? And she has to talk about it. And I think the income and the opportunities that the show has brought her has emboldened her. She we don’t know, they may have an ironclad prenup. She did say first season, they had no prenup. We don’t know if she just said that, but I remember her being like, we don’t have a prenup. And the women were kind of like, sure, you know, and I can’t let that so that surprised me too. Yeah. I mean, she has lied about things like the jewelry, and it’s nobody’s business if someone has a prenup, it is something that someone it’s ours. It’s our business, right? Yeah, it’s our business. But, like, it is something that I could see someone lying about. Yeah, and I, you know, that could have made her afraid to leave before, if she had been thinking, I just don’t, I didn’t, I don’t know. I didn’t get that vibe from her, like, even when Tamara and Simon, way back when were looking, you know, were going through their trouble, you could see it. So I just didn’t see that from her, from him, yes, but from her no. And, you know, like other marriages that eventually that end up in divorce, it’s almost never a one and done kind of situation where, like, one thing happened and that is the end. There’s usually ups and downs and peaks and valleys, like maybe a couple even separates and then gets back together, and things can go through a couple of cycles before a divorce ends up actually happening. Because, you know, of course, people want to feel absolutely sure that the marriage isn’t going to work before they take that step. So I think it’s that, but I don’t have that’s just my feeling from watching the show. Yeah, I don’t think she came on as a way out. You know, part of me says, After her first season, he was so unhappy with it, He clearly doesn’t do group events. Second season, I’m thinking to myself, did she like it so much? I think it highlighted maybe her unhappiness or whatever. But also, ultimately, if there was no show, maybe she would have stayed unhappy or not even realize how unhappy she was, but would have stayed in the marriage, but now she’s like, You know what? I have this now, and if it’s a matter of giving it up or giving him up, like I think the marriage has, and I would hope it’s not if it’s true, because again, the reunion could air and maybe we’re wrong, but if it’s true, a separation isn’t a divorce. And also, even when they were talking about maybe opening their marriage up and that sort of thing, they definitely have friendship and appreciation for each other. So I think unless Todd really screwed her financially, I think that it would be an amicable divorce. Yeah, I think you know. And we also have to think about, too where she is in her life. As a mother, you know, her daughter, I believe, has graduated high school. I don’t know if she’s going to any other schooling, but you know, it could be too that if there had been some stuff going on behind the scenes that she wanted to wait until her daughter was was finished with school, right? So, and because that does happen too, I don’t know, I guess we’re gonna see so on the actual show, the ladies are in Greece. A couple like, want to talk through some scenes, but couple of thoughts. The first thing you know, how you get fixated on, like, weird stuff sometimes on the shows, did you notice that the ladies seem to land in Greece and go straight to dinner without going to their house or whatever first. Maybe it was just a weird editing thing, but I was no hung up on it, because they never do that. And it was weird too at the meal, because, like, Ron went sitting over there looking like most people would when they got off a plane. Like, comfy. Car, I think, I think that they either went straight or perhaps dropped their bags. They all seem to have their plain clothes on, like Lisa Barlow was in a track suit, which is not something she would wear to dinner. The only one in a dress was Brittany. But I know that sometimes when I travel, especially if I’m going from like New York in the winter.
Somewhere warm, I’ll pack like a sundress or something, and then, when I’m waiting for my luggage, run into the bathroom and just throw it on and put my like sweats in my carry on. So it could have been that deal, but I think they went straight there. And the the only thing I can think of is it seemed to me that Angie goes to this island. It was Santorini, which I think is like the main Santorini, amikonos, or the one most well known. And I think she probably wanted to like, highlight the places she liked she knows the owners, and maybe with the scheduling, if it was only, like a four day trip or a three night trip or something, she felt like, if they didn’t go straight there, because they obviously easily could have catered food to the house. Yeah, my thinking is Angie wanted to show it, and that was the only night that worked with the schedule. So they just went straight there and had some food. That’s what I Okay, that makes sense, because I’m like, this is something. I mean, we’ve watched, because it’s definitely weird, yeah, 1000s of hours.
I don’t think I’ve ever, I’ve really ever seen that, not that I can think of, especially not an international trip like that. But okay, so my favorite part of the episode for a good reason, and it’s not, it’s not the that she was kind of being mean, but it was Heather trolling Lisa about the Cartier watches. I think it was kind of mean, so I’m not excusing that, but it was very entertaining to see. Like, Lisa just could not handle it, because then she gets into a like, I love this. This is like Bronwyn said it. I love this kind of petty. Give me this kind of petty all day long, because then Lisa and Angie are fighting and competing about who got a Cartier watch first and then who’s had the most Porsche, yeah. And then Lisa slips up, and you could tell she’s like, oh shit. She’s like, I mean, I like to sit in the bathtub and I curate cute items for upcoming trips. And then she realizes she tripped herself up by even talking about the bathtub, which then Heather brings up. I just thought the whole thing was so funny, Lisa did not, because she gets up and leaves, and then Meredith leaves. Another thing I want to ask you, did you catch in that scene that Whitney started making, like scissor tag gestures, and some of the other women were laughing about it? Did you see that I did was that for Lisa and Meredith? I don’t know. That’s what I would ask you. I’m guessing. I mean, there are two I can’t picture two people being like, less lesbian than the two of them, right? And I do like that. Meredith made light of it, like, bathtubs are my thing, or whatever she said, I will say, and I love Angie, and I’m mostly on Team Angie versus Lisa. It’s very funny and hypocritical of her to sit there and be like, this is all Lisa cares about. This is all Lisa cares about. Okay, not for anything. You two drive a Porsche. You two wear Cartier. You two just shared about your procedure with your the chopsticks removing the under eye bags. So, yes, Lisa is image conscious, but so is Angie, and I really thought Angie may have a better way of like packaging it so it’s not her. So it would appear it’s not her main, the main thing she’s worried about. But anybody who keeps themselves in the sort of shape that Angie does, and just the cosmetic procedures that Angie does, obviously, is very vain, and I don’t mean that out of malice. I yesterday just went for my, you know, holiday touch up for my dice for it, and I get that instead of Botox. And I actually asked, I don’t have the under eye bags, but I thought that was very interesting. And I was asking my girl shout out to Marianna about that procedure. And she’s like, Oh, no, that’s like, surgical. Like, we can’t do that in here. Like, yeah, you know. And she said about Angie, she was, like, she was way too full. She definitely had filler remove, maybe, like a some sort of face lift, some, something’s going on there, right? And we know if she did the eye surgically, she may have done. I really thought that that was unfair, because most of the women on these shows are very conscious of how they look, and I, myself, am too. I’m not, again, I’m not being critical, but like me too. I mean, why not? Like, I’m not gonna hop in my Porsche and then talk about how you also driving a Porsche and whatever are so image conscious. It’s like, I could easily drive a Hyundai Santa Fe. Yeah, those are actually really nice looking cars. I’m not knocking Hyundai Santa Fe’s. I’m just, you know what I know? Like, it’s not a Porsche level. Porsche is a status symbol, symbol, correct? You are training. I have enough money to be able to spend, God knows, $4,000 a month on a lease. Cars are so expensive now I couldn’t even imagine what that would cost. I don’t know either. No, I mean, first of all, I agree with you. I’m Bane too. When I go to like a new doctor, like a new, you know, person to get Botox or do, like, it is like, why are you here? I just write vanity. I’m like, Absolutely, and it’s definitely a don’t throw stones at glass houses when you live in a glass house kind of situation, and every single woman at the.
That table is pretty much in the same boat. I think where the fun poking comes is that Lisa thinks she has actual status from having these things versus, you know what? I mean, yeah. And she, like, they were calling her snobbish, which is, you know, like, remember when she had a freaking meltdown about sitting in coach. Like, yes, I did see Angie’s point about the glam. Like, listen, yes, you are in Greece. I know all of us that when we’re on vacation. Like, first of all, I find that, like, salt water or even just the air. Like, I don’t even need to blow dry my hair, and I don’t have thick, flowing hair, but, like, I will totally and I’m a person who wears makeup, I love my makeup, but if I’m a little sun kissed, I will totally hop in the shower, clip my hair back, throw on a sundress, put on a little lip gloss and mascara and roll like I get Angie’s point about that, but again, none of them except Whitney. Whitney had her hair like how Whitney was. Is what I would do on vacation, some nights and some nights I get dolled up, right? But Angie’s saying all of this with her hair perfectly flat ironed and a full face and not for nothing. Angie, you are a makeup and hair artist, so you throwing on some makeup and me throwing on some makeup. Ain’t the same throwing on some makeup. I mean, I agree. I just think her saying it is hypocritical, because it’s not like she just threw her hair in a bun with no makeup, and went to dinner. Do you believe that Lisa Barlow actually gets her makeup done every single day at home in Salt Lake City?
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I’m willing to bet that, like Most days that she goes out she does, does she just mean, when filming like, I would imagine that if she has a work event or a work meeting, she probably does. I’m gonna hope that on a Sunday, if she’s just running errands and like hanging at home with her family, she wouldn’t she walks into
a restaurant like, I think the second she walks into a restaurant, she does, like, on a Sunday afternoon, if you and your family are gonna go grab a bite to eat, I always have a little makeup on, but certainly not the same as a Saturday night out to dinner. Yeah, that’s what the I don’t I get the feeling like Lisa would not even go to the grocery store unless she has makeup on, which that is just not me. I am, of course, I, you know, I go most days without any makeup on, but I wear it a lot of days. But I just, like, looked at my husband or watching this, I’m like, can you imagine, like, where’s, you know, having, like, a sleep in Sunday and at 930 somebody knocks on the door to come do my makeup. It just seems so ridiculous, right? That like, it’s just seems like I wouldn’t want to sit there and have that, Oh God no. I don’t have that kind of patience or that kind of time. No, okay, so I think we mentioned this on last week’s pod, but we have an update on casting. Salt Lake City. Cast will stay the same with one or two newbies. We did talk about this last week, Bronwyn, Lisa, Heather, Angie, Mary and one newbie will definitely be full time. It looks like Meredith and Whitney are both on the bubble. Brittany and one newbie will also be a friend, and they want to introduce new women, but we have some updates.
On that. Well, the update is that, you know, we posted this email publicly, and then there were rumors swirling the internet that Meredith was offered a demotion, and she told them she won’t come back if she’s not full time. People are saying she removed Salt Lake City from her bio. Many women do that between seasons, or don’t have it in there at all. I do not believe it’s confirmed that Meredith’s demoted. Yeah, it’s not. It never is before the reunion airs. So while I certainly think it’s possible, I will say though the last few episodes have been all about Meredith, whether we think a lot, yeah, whether we think she’s bringing it or not, but an update that we do have is, I just feel like all of us at the head of this season were like, okay, Brittany’s got to be minimized or out, right? But I think that whatever happened on the plane actually ended up working out really well for her. Gave her a lot more camera time, gave her some sympathy, gave her some friendships that she didn’t have. And I don’t know if you guys caught it, but on Watch What Happens Live. Andy said, Oh, I think Broadway’s in Brittany’s future. I’m thinking of Chicago like we know Ariana and Erica Jean and now Whitney from Mom Talk, yeah, what I’m hearing is like the Broadway coupled with Bronwyn Heather, Whitney and Angie joining Brittany at her show in New York City, they performed that iconic scene from me girl, mean girls were in the sexy Santa costume, yeah, and Bronwyn will, and Bronwyn was pretending to be the mom with the video recording. Yeah, I don’t think I think Brittany is I hear Brittany is safe, and I feel Brittany is safe, yeah, and maybe not full time, but I don’t think that she’s gone. I mean, if she’s on Broadway, that means we won’t see her much with the other ladies. So because where there was, we did have something about how she could be in a different kind of role. So that would make sense, right? If that’s the case. So Bronwyn had her own moment, because I guess the week before, Heather brought up the whole Todd thing again, you know, when Heather does certain certain things, it’s so produced and performative, and to make a moment for the fans. And I felt like that because Heather said it, and Roman just gave her a face like, Are you fucking kidding me, right? And Heather was like, I’m sorry, I’m sorry. And those are the moments with Heather that make me really annoyed. Yeah, but I need to stop being a heather apologist. She does move it along. She does bring it up. I know that the whole thing with her and Meredith was she wouldn’t talk to her, wouldn’t talk to her, wouldn’t talk to her until she’s front of everybody, right? But her reasoning did kind of make sense when she was like, I just don’t want her. I don’t want to have us be a private conversation and then have her completely twist it like she does she has in the past. I was like, that’s kind of a good point, Heather, because Meredith does do that, and I still go back to like, I just, I don’t believe that four or five of the women would all make up that something happened, if there wasn’t some truth to it, I definitely think something happened. I think that they’re all harping on it a little bit excessively. I think they’re looking to make Meredith a storyline, because she doesn’t really have a connection outside of Lisa. It’s very clear, with all of them being in the city and doing that show together, they’re, they’re like a crew, and Lisa and Meredith are on their own. I mean, Meredith has married to an extent, right? But Mary’s Mary, she’s always gonna, like, she’s not gonna ally with somebody, right? Oh, yeah, I have a question for you, because obviously we’re gonna talk about it, but the rumors about Whitney and Justin and their marriage, did Justin go to bravocon at all? I can’t remember. So, okay, here’s the thing somebody said to me at the bravocon taping where she was very trashed, like totally wasted. She kept saying, where’s Justin and Sean and John Barlow were there, and she was acting like she was very drunk, and Justin wasn’t there. But somebody else said to me that Justin and her were together all of bravocon, like he was with her at all, like most, maybe he wasn’t there at that like at that panel, or whatever it was, but he was with her. I feel, and I don’t know why I always feel like, first of all, every year, there’s speculation between seasons or when it’s airing, that her and Justin are splitting up every single year, and I don’t know who’s doing it, and I don’t know what, I feel like they have a good marriage, and I feel like they’re not above using it for a storyline. And so it’s always hanging there. That could be, yes, they do seem to have, like a pretty I don’t know, though I go back and forth, because then I think about, you know, the year before, where Whitney was upset because Justin, you know, wasn’t, wasn’t helping her as much. And even though she was so busy and that she.
She had supported him for so long. And, yeah, you’re right. Maybe that each time they’re like, What in our marriage, can we poke this year? I think this year is like, you know, the business and how it was an ill advised move to go MLM, I don’t believe though, that if he is the one who’s really wanted out that he would just stick around because we read that somebody said he’s stuck around because of the money. You know, his reputation is gone, and now Whitney has blown all their life savings. He’s ready to I don’t believe that he would stick around. In that case, people are forgetting that Whitney earns a very hefty check from Bravo. So this is her. Is this season six. So she’s right. She’s making very good money, plus any brand deals and all of that. Now we know that housewives live above their means. Lord, do we know it, but they were just in New York City for Britney’s thing and a cocktail, or spotted them at the Mandarin Oriental, which is probably very nice hotel, yeah. I mean, if not the most expensive close to it. She also just posted on her stories, just in buying a fancy new truck. So yeah, they could be overspending, but money has to be coming in, right? Yeah. So I don’t know something about them. Almost seems like they do share all of this stuff, but then behind closed doors, everything’s like, good with them. I don’t know why I feel that way. It’s just a feeling I have. I just don’t see it. I don’t I think he’s very devoted to her. I think, if anything, yeah, and also, if they like that open marriage thing, like they have a good thing going, because you’re gonna leave that and then have to be in a monotonous location. I don’t know, I I don’t know,
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Okay, so let’s go on to the Secret Lives of Mormon wives reunion. Tell me what you thought about Stasi.
The host, you know, steady. I feel like got a lot of flack, a lot of people in my DM saying they thought she was awful. Ah, I thought she was good. I think she was kind to them. I think she was trying to be understanding and relatable. I don’t really know what people would expect from a host. Like, what did you think? So, I actually think she was great. I think the reunion was bad, and let me tell you why I think the editing was bad, but I don’t think it’s the editor’s fault. I think that secret lives of Mormon wives might be in a situation where they’re becoming victims of their own success, so meaning I think they might be filming too quickly in between seasons, and that it’s getting hard for everybody to keep straight what they can talk about and what they can’t, because, as we know they were supposed to that when they were there was supposed to be an order for, I think, 20 episodes, but what they’re doing is splitting it up into a Season. Is each season is 10, and we know they’re, they’re filming right now, and that there’s, we get a lot of questions about, like, when will this actually film? Because it’s starting to get hard to keep track of for everybody, and they don’t want to give, they didn’t want to give spoilers for the next season. So you would see them start to talk about something, and then sassy would say, you’ll see more about this on season four of Secret Lives of Mormon, right? She was like, Hey guys, stop talking. We’re not allowed, yeah. Like, she knew what she was allowed to touch on, yeah. So I don’t think he’ll go hard with reality, because I feel like oftentimes we complain that, like with summer house as an example, we’re watching it in real time, whatever’s going on with Kyle and Amanda. There’s too much of a break between seasons, and this is too fast. So I agree. I think, yeah, and I really think that is what the issue was with the reunion. Because I think too I also think that they break the fourth wall a lot on this show, and they all don’t seem to be held back too much from sharing real time stuff on their social media. So, like, you right? And so I think that everything’s blending together for everybody. I think everyone’s having a hard time keeping it all straight. I know I would. And so I’m having a hard time as a viewer. Yeah, like, Yeah, I agree 100% with what you’re saying. I think they just need to make us like I’ve said it before on other shows, like, make us miss you a little bit and give it a little breathing room, but because what I think will happen is they do share so much on social media, and they do fight on social media, and so by the time the season comes out, I feel like we basically know it, and there’s not so much an urgency to watch it, right? And I think the way that we see Bravo do it, I think it actually helps everyone’s head stay a little bit more straight in that you’ll see, for example, the summer house crew, they don’t share pictures from like the snooze land, snooze fest, whatever party until they don’t share it real time they save it. And I’m sure this is contractual, but they save it for the week that the episode airs. So they it feels like it all makes a little bit more sense. Yeah, yeah. What else should we talk about? Oh, so it came out during the season that Dakota Taylor’s baby daddy was sexting her mother’s best friend. And of course, you know, he gave a tearful apology. I am not here for it. I doubt anybody. I mean, I love the editor’s flashback to the last reunion where he was giving a tearful apology, and he promised to be honest, throw him out. And also, while we’re throwing him out, clearing the women off the stage so that Dakota could say his piece. What super disappointing. Apparently, Taylor and Dakota were sexting right before she left for the Bachelorette. For me, it’s a bad look for the Bachelorette. Listen, I understand. I never really felt that that show was legitimate and that people were there to find love, but you’re supposed to have the premise and be under the guise of it. So us knowing that she was actively hooking up with Dakota right up until she left, means she’s gonna come back home. And whether she meets somebody like somebody or whatever, Dakota’s there, they have to co parent their child ever you know, are we gonna tune into the Bachelorette? Honestly, hearing that kind of makes me not want to, because I don’t feel like she actually, you know what I mean? I don’t know. I just feel like maybe she wasn’t the best candidate because she’s got so much going on at home, yeah, and she’s still so wrapped up in it. It isn’t as if her and Dakota have been broken up for a long period of time. It seems rushed, and it seems like the bachelorette is going to end, and it’s going to be one of these things where she’s like, I really like you and I think we should date. I’m not fully out of moved on from my situation with Dakota. Like, what else you know? What I know? Oh, my God, let’s hope she doesn’t do that. I do think it’s possible for her to leave Dakota in the CO parent zone and leave it there. I think it’s got to be really hard.
Hard to separate what somebody is telling you versus then things that you’re hearing. So their whole situation is obviously, it’s messy. I think it’s a terrible look of Dakota to be talking about it, because it makes him look bad. It makes Taylor look really bad. But he also knows that part of his ticket is Taylor, and he knows that, yes, he his whole ticket. Yes, ABC and bachelor and bachelorette fans, they want the fairy tale. So talk about messing with someone’s paycheck. Like, I just think he’s a Dumas. Like, I really just, I just do and he doesn’t. I don’t think the man thinks two steps ahead, even two steps ahead, and he is going to regret talking about this. Yeah, I think so. It just, it’s just a bad look for all of them. But I agree, like it feels a little rushed, but at the same time, if I were Taylor, I would take it and of course, you never know. Like Love could happen. Like love, even if she’s fully not expecting it to happen, it could. So that’s true. You’ll see, you know, so there’s, I think there’s a chance. But So Amanda says we’re watching, I think we’re watching. Okay, I’ll be very, I’ll be very pessimistic about it, but I’ll watch. What if Marciano shows up as one of the bachelors? Can we talk about the Marciano of it all, okay, so as gross and shiny as he is, I believe him when he says that he did not grope Demi without her consent and that it was all I believe him, because it really does seem too like Lisa Vanderpump has said sad, like, I’ll pull out like, and for him to go ahead and sue her like this. Like, yeah, I believe him. We just got an email. Did you even see it yet? No, this is a good one. It says rumblings are that Brett is catching on to Demi’s lies. We saw him question it last season. But truth is, he didn’t fully believe her and questioned if she cheated, this lawsuit is going to be bad, and Brett doesn’t want his money involved. Marciano was including pages of text messages, and LVP will help with footage. So we had cocktails. Know that there’s allegedly footage that may now become a part of this lawsuit. We knew about the footage, so then we got this email back to the so that’s that on that. Yeah, does? Brett divorced, and then they posted all these pictures hugging and kissing. I don’t know what to make of it. How are they making money if she’s not back on the show? Now, as a paparazzi, they knew they were being photographed and they were act I mean, you could tell they’re passionately kissing in a Nordstrom. Like, yeah, I’m still kind of a newlywed, and I’m not doing that. No. Also talk about confused at the reunion. Jesse and Jordan, like it seems like he wants to get back together. She doesn’t. I know we’re gonna see this on season four. Definitely feels like a band aid. I don’t personally see them making it. Brett and Demi. I mean, he refuses to acknowledge what she’s done, which is totally, like, bizarre. But what’s going on with Jesse and Jordan? Yeah, well, first, really quickly, about breath. He came off as, like, you know, Biff from Back to the Future. He came off as such, a bit like the way that he was being, like, he was being so mean to Jen’s husband and called him boys. And I was like, God, you’re he’s just a bully. You know what’s funny? When I first saw him on TV, I thought he was so gorgeous, and it just goes to show you that personality can ruin it, because I totally saw him as a dweeb.
I completely agree. As of this week, Jesse and Jordan moved out of their house. They had the typical influencer video of the moving company packing them up, which they did together. They’re still doing some social media together, but it does seem that they are living apart. So this whole dad talk thing, I am not here for it. I don’t really care to see Jordan anymore. I just there’s something about him, and a lot of the men actually on the show, that really gives me the ick. I couldn’t when, when Stasi kept saying dad talk. I was like, stop it. So they’re filming season four, and we got some intel that there will be spin offs. I forget if we mentioned it, but we got more stuff this week, multiple spin offs was what we heard with the cast of the current show. And then just yesterday, we got another email. Do you want to read that one? Sure it says it’s true. Ladies, see, I like how they’re talking to us like. Ladies, no email us it’s true. Ladies, Secret Lives of Mormon wives, spin us, or in the works. However, there is grumbling, because some of the opportunities that the other ladies are getting. Rumor is that Whitney will be followed on her Broadway journey and that the ladies will make appearances at her show. Right now, no one is talking to Demi. There have been attempts to try to stop her from.
Making a fool out of herself, but she is determined that she is right and she is not backing down. LVP has said she will release those tapes. If this goes further, Jen and Zach may get a spin off on their life in Arizona. So much to come soon, if negotiations work out, then we had intel from another email that said Taylor could have her own spin off if she finds love, and her season is good. Well, that’s a good reason to make sure you find love. Yeah. Essentially, Hulu may want to split up the cast into multiple shows. Listen, they’re not stopping this train. Whatever we want to say about these wacky people, they are authentic. They’re giving their real lives, and their real lives is psycho we’re all tuning in. They’ve already got the crossovers going with Vanderpump Villa and, you know, Secret Lives of Mormon writers already. Three of them have had shows outside Taylor’s currently filming The Bachelorette Jen and Whitney were on Dancing with the Stars. I believe that we will get a spin off or two. Which one it ends up being depends. It could also be a combo, a few episodes of Whitney, then a few episodes of Jack and Jen, Jack and Zach and Jen. The thing is, these people are very green, meaning they don’t really understand this reality world. They’re not polished. They certainly are not PR trained, right? And I also feel like because their platforms are so big with the brand deals and the influencers, they make so much money off that they probably don’t demand what the average reality star might for all these shows they’re doing. Does that make sense?
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sweet, melty bite of a HERSHEY’s Bar, and suddenly I’m right back sitting on the front porch with my grandmother on a slow summer afternoon. She doesn’t say much, just breaks the bar in half and hands me a piece. I open my mouth to say whatever a nine year old wants to say, and she replies with a low
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Hi, I’m Dr Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter. In this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches. Like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh, yeah, you know, I just, I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive, we deep dive into your medication, we deep dive into your OTC medication, and then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
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I do think this makes sense. I get the idea of running with something when it becomes successful, and just use a little restraint to keep us.
Interested. But if we have all these spin offs and we’re following what you know, what news journey like, just give it a little Hulu if you’re listening. We love you, but give it a little breathing room. I feel like the season could have been five episodes instead of 10, especially if we’re using the same folks. Now, if we use new people, and we franchise in a way like housewives. Wow, that’s funny. So this is the next thing we’re hearing. We’re hearing that it’s more than just spin offs. We’re hearing they may franchise the series similar to real housewives. So Secret Lives of a new city, baseball wives, right? Anything? Nashville? Yay. Wives. People want Nashville. People want Chicago. They already have a Chicago cast. If Bravo hasn’t scooped them up, those people are ready to go. They’ve been filming. Yeah, sounds like you know, Hulu is taking a page out of Bravo’s books. County is coming for Bravo. I mean, think about the Palm Beach show that looks very housewives. Ish will be the judges, whether it is or not, but that’s on Netflix. I started Ryan Sirhan. We’ll save that for cocktail. I love I just love him. He is so freaking smart and hot and he just makes such good decisions, or not, enigmatic. Is that the right word? What’s the word when you have a lot of charismatic, charismatic, charismatic, and he just makes what we’ll get, we’re not gonna get off track. But because we got to cover the Amanda and Kyle, okay, the never ending situation that you heard here first, you sure did. Guys. You know we have been talking about this. We’ve had this until, since October. We posted it before Bravo con because we just had too many receipts that couldn’t be ignored. The denials and lots of denials, lots of half denials, lots of, I’m gonna make fun of it, like Amanda making that post where she was inside Gemma’s, like baby house that, yes, I’m living in a new I mean, she’s definitely every like everyone’s dancing around it. We’ll put it that way, but yes, we’re still hearing that they are living apart. They were not hanging out together at bravocon. We’ve been talking about this guys. And then the summer house trailer came out, and we knew the summer house trailer was going to be wild because we we were getting intel on stuff that was going on, and it sounded crazy. And boy, was it crazy. So we had heard, and I’m not sure if both things are true, it’s a game of telephone. So when we get stuff, is that always exactly what we get? We had heard the final straw was that Kyle brought girls back to her apartment, and this may have happened after filming, like, partying, and just brought them back, and they were hanging out in the living room. I’m not saying, like, hooking up. I’m just saying, like, what in the trailer? If they say he slept at a fan’s house, Amanda is shown talking to Lindsay and Sierra, I actually heard the fans house that he slept in was the building that Sierra lived in at the time. Yeah. And somebody actually DM me, and they were like, B I told you about this, because this person lives in that building. And like, yeah. And guys just remember that. Like, sometimes, anyway, I won’t say that. So on the the clip on the trailer, Amanda says, Kyle fell asleep at some fans apartment and came home at like, 630 in the morning. So Kyle this week came out and made a statement, and it said there’s no excuse for staying out as late as I did, but I want to be clear that I did not sleep at a fan’s apartment. I was at an event that Amanda chose not to attend, which moved to a bar and then to an after party. I don’t use anything to keep myself wired. So I think I ended up falling asleep on a couch, and suddenly it was almost 6am Do I regret the situation Absolutely, but that’s the truth and the full extent of what happened. Who is advising this man? And so, of course, we posted it. Everybody posted it, yeah, and reading through the comments, the feedback is the most glaring statement, for starters, is that it feels like he’s blaming Amanda, saying, well, she was invited and chose not to come too. He also said, I don’t take anything to keep myself wired. What are we congratulating people now on not doing cocaine to stay awake. It was just a when we’re in our mid 40s, like that is such a weird thing to say. Kyle, it was so weird. He says he didn’t sleep over someone’s house, but he thinks he fell asleep on a couch. Here’s the thing, there’s no requirement to go to an after party. There’s just so many things glaring to me. I find it to be like a sad situation. It just seems such a mess, and there’s so many different things. It’s not like this is a one time thing. Now, there is another Tiktok that I saw someone share of him at a party, and the timestamp is 530 it’s from, like, Snapchat. It appears to be a sorority. Oh, we’ve gotten a lot of different stuff over the years. If you.
Guys are subscribers. You’re more privy to some of that. It’s I do hear that he wants to work on it. That’s what I’m hearing. He wants to work on it. I don’t know if Amanda’s open to it. You know, the thing is, and shout out to face reality 16 on their Instagram, they put together a compilation of all of the times that Kyle has done stuff that has been on their show, and all of the times that Amanda has forgiven him, one of them four weeks before they got engaged, another one right before their wedding. So I honestly forgot how many of these situations we have witnessed on camera where he says he got blocked out and he doesn’t really know what happened, and it was just a kiss, or maybe it wasn’t. Maybe it was nothing. Who knows, and she forgave him. Do I think it’s listen? I think they’re living separately. Okay, I’ve said it 1,000,001 times. Do I think it’s possible that they’re working on it while living separately and on the spin off we see them working on it? I do think it’s possible. And the reason I think it’s possible because at this point, with all of these leaks, wouldn’t they have to just make a statement that they split? Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I think, I think it’s possible. I think there’s a lot of reasons that they might not be talking about this right now. And you know, we’ve said this before, like, it could be that, and it’s likely that they’re contractually obligated to not talk about it because it will be either on summer house, or it will be on the new in the city show. You know where I was thinking about my head, as you are talking about this is like, I mean, there are clearly such different people who want such different things. But I don’t believe that, even if, because I just keep thinking about his that statement, and how he’s like, Amanda was invited and she just didn’t go, I’m like, even if he married like a total party girl who still was wanting to go out and party like, I think he’d still would be finding ways to go and do his thing. Because I think for him, it’s a glory or a attention and kind of thing that he can really, truly only get from, like new people, right? A weird validation thing, I don’t think the attention from the masses, yeah, yeah. And another thing, they were at us at a time, yeah, they were at a threads event last night, and there were a lot of people there, Melissa and Joe Gorga. It was like an intimate dinner, and it was all Bravo labs, mostly New Yorkers. Of course. Sheena flew in for it, and Kyle and Amanda were sitting at separate ends of the table, so it’s like they’re not doing any I don’t know. I think Kyle would very much like to do stuff that shut down the rumors, and I just think, I think she’s unwilling, but the fact that there’s no official announcement, because she kind of does this with him, like, doesn’t even when they were dating, doesn’t break up or end it, but get like, ignores him or hangs out with the girls, and it’s just this, like toxic cycle. And I think that Kyle loves Amanda as much as he would love a wife. And I think, like in one of the clips that face reality posted, he said to Lindsay, when Lindsay was like, listen, like this is gonna come out, this girl is telling people, you guys made out and like, there sounds like there’s video, or whatever this is, four weeks before they got engaged, and he goes, I’ve never, I’ve been cheating on people since I’m 16 years old. Like, I don’t know how to be monogamous, so like, nobody needs to train you. I
know it’s bullshit, but I’m just, you get my point? You get I know we’re not standing up for Kyle cook on that one. I just like, what a frickin ridiculous in other words, I guess, like, I believe he wants to work on it, because I believe that he loves Amanda and he wants to be married to her. I just think this is as good as he can do in a marriage. Like, to your point, whether she was a party girl or not, I think it’s irrelevant if he was Lindsay, who is a party girl? You know? Like, yeah, I just hope this physical separation gives Amanda some clarity. You’re gonna laugh at me, but, or what if they have an arrangement? It’s not like, what if they have an arrangement and Amanda’s like, stop fucking up and getting us caught. Like, what if she’s all right with it? I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that. I don’t either. I don’t, I don’t believe that. I you know, I think actually think about Melissa Gorgas, Real Housewives of New Jersey, housewives tagline. I think about it a lot because I just see situations in my life, my friends lives, housewives lives, people’s lives. She said, You’ll never see how toxic something is until you breathe fresher air, something like something along those lines. And I really do think that’s absolutely true, because, like, sometimes when you’re in something, you don’t even realize how messed up it is until you get a few steps away from it and can get some perspective. You know, I think hopefully, I mean, hopefully Kyle can do better. But I don’t believe that. I think he tells her that he will, and then he does precisely whatever the heck he wants to, like for example, telling Amanda he’s gonna calm down the partying, and then he fully pursues a career in DJing. So he gets paid to stay out until three in the morning.
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Sweet, melty bite of a HERSHEY’s Bar, and suddenly I’m right back sitting on the front porch with my grandmother on a slow summer afternoon. She doesn’t say much, just breaks the bar in half and hands me a piece. I open my mouth to say whatever a nine year old wants to say, and she replies with a low
listen. So we sat there listening. That was the first time I learned that quiet can feel full Hershey’s. It’s your happy place.
Hi, I’m Dr Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter. In this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches, like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh, yeah, you know, I just, I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication. And then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
Hear the full conversation, plus some fascinating facts about how gut health affects so much more than just your stomach. On beyond the script, a podcast from CVS pharmacy and I Heart Radio. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts,
it’s so crazy and well, we’ll get into the rest of the trailer, but him coming to blows with Carl, because not for anything, Carl is seeing everything very clear eyed, because he is sober, and, of course, he’s very good friends with Kyle, and loves Kyle. And I think we also have to recognize that comes with strings. And I just we have to call it what it is, Carl’s on the show, still, in large part because Kyle goes to bat to keep him on the show. And so Carl has a loyalty him, loyalty to him that transcends working for lover boy. It’s also summer house. He knows where his bread is buttered. But we see in the trailer, it comes to a head, to the point where Carl, like says, What the fuck is wrong with you? And I have to guess it’s in regards to his treatment of Amanda. Maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s in regards to his treatment of someone else, because we have historically seen him treat people poorly. Paige, Hannah, I mean, they created a whole career off of it, giggly squad, because he made fun of them as gigglers or something, and they ran with that. But I don’t know, like if the marriage doesn’t survive, which is a good chance it won’t, what does the future look like for him? Viewers are primarily women and gay men, and they’re gonna side with Amanda Absolutely, even if Amanda tries to keep it as amicable as she can, which she has no obligation to. But she might, because she might whatever do that for him. How does this affect his brand? If he doesn’t get it together, he’s in trouble. He really is gonna be. He’s in trouble unless he unless they divorce and they he keeps her since she’s since. Listen, the reality is they have no prenup, and she’s entitled to 50% anyway, so he keeps her on so the brand doesn’t suffer. If I was advising Kyle, I would if they end up divorcing, what I would advise him, if Amanda’s willing, is to have her be somewhat of a silent partner. Maybe she does some ads.
For them and whatever. And you know, oh, you know, our marriage didn’t work out, but we’re still friends, even if that’s a party line, yeah, keep her on. Lover boy. Let her continue to get her checks. You’ll be doing more of the work, but that’s your own fault, because number one, you fucked up, and number two, you fucked up because you didn’t sign a prenup if they separate, and even if she gets a payout if she’s no longer connected to Loverboy, that would be like if Sandoval had a brand after scandal, right? Right? Because when this comes out, it’s gonna be what he did splitting up because he falls asleep at fans apartments. And there’s videos of him doing this. And remember that thing in Charles it’s gonna be all of the what happened with Schwartz and Sandy’s, I mean, all of the mean comments just on the reviews that was so I can’t see how anything different would happen for Kyle. I mean, there was a certain me, is your smart guy, who’s friends with Schwartz and Sandoval, who lived through it. He wasn’t smart enough to stop that from happening to him. I mean, damn, the guy goes out and people act like they love him when they see him. So he probably is. So he’s probably just not very well connected to reality, which is that most people are gonna take her side in the situation, that he’s gonna look like a jerk no matter what, because his actions are speaking way louder than his words. If I’m him when we divorce, I’m hiring, well, I’m already gonna have an attorney who’s going to write up the contract for her to have 50% ownership. Me to have 50% ownership. Now remember, there’s a lot of investors, so whatever percentage they have left, right, she gets half of that, he gets half of that, and that’s the only way that this thing continues grinding. Yep, I guess we’ll see. We’ll see before we go. I just wanted to remind everybody that we are having a sale for cocktail party for the annual membership, where you can get $15 off of the regular price of 80. So you can get cocktail party for a year for $65 which I think again, bad at the math, but averages it to like 550 a month, which is much cheaper than you get even on sale with your monthly so also it’s a lot cheaper than it would be monthly if, because our annuals already discounted 10 bucks. So it’s really a $25 savings, exactly. And our so the code, it stays good until the end of the month, because we know sometimes people don’t get everything they wanted for Christmas but or for Hanukkah, or for any other holiday that they celebrate, so sometimes you have to do a little for from me to me gift. You can use this either on the gift, annual party, cocktail party subscription, which is what you do if you want to buy it for somebody as a gift, or you can use it on the actual annual membership, if it’s for you or you. I love a lot of our cocktails do put it on their list. And I love that, because I do that. Like, when my dad or my husband is like, what do you want this year? I like, I have all different memberships. I’m like, You know what? Like stuff that I get anyway, but I’m like, You know what do this for me? Like, Ipsy is one just different things. Like, yeah, big gift. I love it. So the code is cyber, C, y, B, E, R, 2025,
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Whatever settlement she gets, or were they fine? And the show highlighted things for both of them that caused them to split. Okay, here’s what I think. I don’t think that Bronwyn came on to the show knowing that they were getting divorced. I never saw contempt towards him from her. I really think that she loved, and may still love him, but I do think that, I can’t help but wonder if Todd was feeling a little like, Okay, this might be good for Braun, you know, like, maybe a little bit of a Camille and Kelsey situation, because his end on his end, yes, because, you know, the show does put a big spotlight on couples, and when there are issues, it obviously puts a real big spotlight on that too. I do think that even coming after her first season, where she went and looked back and saw some of this stuff, I think she was still really protective of her marriage and seemed to want to work out, but saw what the viewers were seeing. Like, how can you not right? And she has to talk about it. And I think the income and the opportunities that the show has brought her has emboldened her. She we don’t know, they may have an ironclad prenup. She did say first season, they had no prenup. We don’t know if she just said that, but I remember her being like, we don’t have a prenup. And the women were kind of like, sure, you know, and I can’t let that so that surprised me too. Yeah. I mean, she has lied about things like the jewelry, and it’s nobody’s business if someone has a prenup, it is something that someone it’s ours. It’s our business, right? Yeah, it’s our business. But, like, it is something that I could see someone lying about. Yeah, and I, you know, that could have made her afraid to leave before, if she had been thinking, I just don’t, I didn’t, I don’t know. I didn’t get that vibe from her, like, even when Tamara and Simon, way back when were looking, you know, were going through their trouble, you could see it. So I just didn’t see that from her, from him, yes, but from her no. And, you know, like other marriages that eventually that end up in divorce, it’s almost never a one and done kind of situation where, like, one thing happened and that is the end. There’s usually ups and downs and peaks and valleys, like maybe a couple even separates and then gets back together, and things can go through a couple of cycles before a divorce ends up actually happening. Because, you know, of course, people want to feel absolutely sure that the marriage isn’t going to work before they take that step. So I think it’s that, but I don’t have that’s just my feeling from watching the show. Yeah, I don’t think she came on as a way out. You know, part of me says, After her first season, he was so unhappy with it, He clearly doesn’t do group events. Second season, I’m thinking to myself, did she like it so much? I think it highlighted maybe her unhappiness or whatever. But also, ultimately, if there was no show, maybe she would have stayed unhappy or not even realize how unhappy she was, but would have stayed in the marriage, but now she’s like, You know what? I have this now, and if it’s a matter of giving it up or giving him up, like I think the marriage has, and I would hope it’s not if it’s true, because again, the reunion could air and maybe we’re wrong, but if it’s true, a separation isn’t a divorce. And also, even when they were talking about maybe opening their marriage up and that sort of thing, they definitely have friendship and appreciation for each other. So I think unless Todd really screwed her financially, I think that it would be an amicable divorce. Yeah, I think you know. And we also have to think about, too where she is in her life. As a mother, you know, her daughter, I believe, has graduated high school. I don’t know if she’s going to any other schooling, but you know, it could be too that if there had been some stuff going on behind the scenes that she wanted to wait until her daughter was was finished with school, right? So, and because that does happen too, I don’t know, I guess we’re gonna see so on the actual show, the ladies are in Greece. A couple like, want to talk through some scenes, but couple of thoughts. The first thing you know, how you get fixated on, like, weird stuff sometimes on the shows, did you notice that the ladies seem to land in Greece and go straight to dinner without going to their house or whatever first. Maybe it was just a weird editing thing, but I was no hung up on it, because they never do that. And it was weird too at the meal, because, like, Ron went sitting over there looking like most people would when they got off a plane. Like, comfy. Car, I think, I think that they either went straight or perhaps dropped their bags. They all seem to have their plain clothes on, like Lisa Barlow was in a track suit, which is not something she would wear to dinner. The only one in a dress was Brittany. But I know that sometimes when I travel, especially if I’m going from like New York in the winter.
Somewhere warm, I’ll pack like a sundress or something, and then, when I’m waiting for my luggage, run into the bathroom and just throw it on and put my like sweats in my carry on. So it could have been that deal, but I think they went straight there. And the the only thing I can think of is it seemed to me that Angie goes to this island. It was Santorini, which I think is like the main Santorini, amikonos, or the one most well known. And I think she probably wanted to like, highlight the places she liked she knows the owners, and maybe with the scheduling, if it was only, like a four day trip or a three night trip or something, she felt like, if they didn’t go straight there, because they obviously easily could have catered food to the house. Yeah, my thinking is Angie wanted to show it, and that was the only night that worked with the schedule. So they just went straight there and had some food. That’s what I Okay, that makes sense, because I’m like, this is something. I mean, we’ve watched, because it’s definitely weird, yeah, 1000s of hours.
I don’t think I’ve ever, I’ve really ever seen that, not that I can think of, especially not an international trip like that. But okay, so my favorite part of the episode for a good reason, and it’s not, it’s not the that she was kind of being mean, but it was Heather trolling Lisa about the Cartier watches. I think it was kind of mean, so I’m not excusing that, but it was very entertaining to see. Like, Lisa just could not handle it, because then she gets into a like, I love this. This is like Bronwyn said it. I love this kind of petty. Give me this kind of petty all day long, because then Lisa and Angie are fighting and competing about who got a Cartier watch first and then who’s had the most Porsche, yeah. And then Lisa slips up, and you could tell she’s like, oh shit. She’s like, I mean, I like to sit in the bathtub and I curate cute items for upcoming trips. And then she realizes she tripped herself up by even talking about the bathtub, which then Heather brings up. I just thought the whole thing was so funny, Lisa did not, because she gets up and leaves, and then Meredith leaves. Another thing I want to ask you, did you catch in that scene that Whitney started making, like scissor tag gestures, and some of the other women were laughing about it? Did you see that I did was that for Lisa and Meredith? I don’t know. That’s what I would ask you. I’m guessing. I mean, there are two I can’t picture two people being like, less lesbian than the two of them, right? And I do like that. Meredith made light of it, like, bathtubs are my thing, or whatever she said, I will say, and I love Angie, and I’m mostly on Team Angie versus Lisa. It’s very funny and hypocritical of her to sit there and be like, this is all Lisa cares about. This is all Lisa cares about. Okay, not for anything. You two drive a Porsche. You two wear Cartier. You two just shared about your procedure with your the chopsticks removing the under eye bags. So, yes, Lisa is image conscious, but so is Angie, and I really thought Angie may have a better way of like packaging it so it’s not her. So it would appear it’s not her main, the main thing she’s worried about. But anybody who keeps themselves in the sort of shape that Angie does, and just the cosmetic procedures that Angie does, obviously, is very vain, and I don’t mean that out of malice. I yesterday just went for my, you know, holiday touch up for my dice for it, and I get that instead of Botox. And I actually asked, I don’t have the under eye bags, but I thought that was very interesting. And I was asking my girl shout out to Marianna about that procedure. And she’s like, Oh, no, that’s like, surgical. Like, we can’t do that in here. Like, yeah, you know. And she said about Angie, she was, like, she was way too full. She definitely had filler remove, maybe, like a some sort of face lift, some, something’s going on there, right? And we know if she did the eye surgically, she may have done. I really thought that that was unfair, because most of the women on these shows are very conscious of how they look, and I, myself, am too. I’m not, again, I’m not being critical, but like me too. I mean, why not? Like, I’m not gonna hop in my Porsche and then talk about how you also driving a Porsche and whatever are so image conscious. It’s like, I could easily drive a Hyundai Santa Fe. Yeah, those are actually really nice looking cars. I’m not knocking Hyundai Santa Fe’s. I’m just, you know what I know? Like, it’s not a Porsche level. Porsche is a status symbol, symbol, correct? You are training. I have enough money to be able to spend, God knows, $4,000 a month on a lease. Cars are so expensive now I couldn’t even imagine what that would cost. I don’t know either. No, I mean, first of all, I agree with you. I’m Bane too. When I go to like a new doctor, like a new, you know, person to get Botox or do, like, it is like, why are you here? I just write vanity. I’m like, Absolutely, and it’s definitely a don’t throw stones at glass houses when you live in a glass house kind of situation, and every single woman at the.
That table is pretty much in the same boat. I think where the fun poking comes is that Lisa thinks she has actual status from having these things versus, you know what? I mean, yeah. And she, like, they were calling her snobbish, which is, you know, like, remember when she had a freaking meltdown about sitting in coach. Like, yes, I did see Angie’s point about the glam. Like, listen, yes, you are in Greece. I know all of us that when we’re on vacation. Like, first of all, I find that, like, salt water or even just the air. Like, I don’t even need to blow dry my hair, and I don’t have thick, flowing hair, but, like, I will totally and I’m a person who wears makeup, I love my makeup, but if I’m a little sun kissed, I will totally hop in the shower, clip my hair back, throw on a sundress, put on a little lip gloss and mascara and roll like I get Angie’s point about that, but again, none of them except Whitney. Whitney had her hair like how Whitney was. Is what I would do on vacation, some nights and some nights I get dolled up, right? But Angie’s saying all of this with her hair perfectly flat ironed and a full face and not for nothing. Angie, you are a makeup and hair artist, so you throwing on some makeup and me throwing on some makeup. Ain’t the same throwing on some makeup. I mean, I agree. I just think her saying it is hypocritical, because it’s not like she just threw her hair in a bun with no makeup, and went to dinner. Do you believe that Lisa Barlow actually gets her makeup done every single day at home in Salt Lake City?
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I’m willing to bet that, like Most days that she goes out she does, does she just mean, when filming like, I would imagine that if she has a work event or a work meeting, she probably does. I’m gonna hope that on a Sunday, if she’s just running errands and like hanging at home with her family, she wouldn’t she walks into
a restaurant like, I think the second she walks into a restaurant, she does, like, on a Sunday afternoon, if you and your family are gonna go grab a bite to eat, I always have a little makeup on, but certainly not the same as a Saturday night out to dinner. Yeah, that’s what the I don’t I get the feeling like Lisa would not even go to the grocery store unless she has makeup on, which that is just not me. I am, of course, I, you know, I go most days without any makeup on, but I wear it a lot of days. But I just, like, looked at my husband or watching this, I’m like, can you imagine, like, where’s, you know, having, like, a sleep in Sunday and at 930 somebody knocks on the door to come do my makeup. It just seems so ridiculous, right? That like, it’s just seems like I wouldn’t want to sit there and have that, Oh God no. I don’t have that kind of patience or that kind of time. No, okay, so I think we mentioned this on last week’s pod, but we have an update on casting. Salt Lake City. Cast will stay the same with one or two newbies. We did talk about this last week, Bronwyn, Lisa, Heather, Angie, Mary and one newbie will definitely be full time. It looks like Meredith and Whitney are both on the bubble. Brittany and one newbie will also be a friend, and they want to introduce new women, but we have some updates.
On that. Well, the update is that, you know, we posted this email publicly, and then there were rumors swirling the internet that Meredith was offered a demotion, and she told them she won’t come back if she’s not full time. People are saying she removed Salt Lake City from her bio. Many women do that between seasons, or don’t have it in there at all. I do not believe it’s confirmed that Meredith’s demoted. Yeah, it’s not. It never is before the reunion airs. So while I certainly think it’s possible, I will say though the last few episodes have been all about Meredith, whether we think a lot, yeah, whether we think she’s bringing it or not, but an update that we do have is, I just feel like all of us at the head of this season were like, okay, Brittany’s got to be minimized or out, right? But I think that whatever happened on the plane actually ended up working out really well for her. Gave her a lot more camera time, gave her some sympathy, gave her some friendships that she didn’t have. And I don’t know if you guys caught it, but on Watch What Happens Live. Andy said, Oh, I think Broadway’s in Brittany’s future. I’m thinking of Chicago like we know Ariana and Erica Jean and now Whitney from Mom Talk, yeah, what I’m hearing is like the Broadway coupled with Bronwyn Heather, Whitney and Angie joining Brittany at her show in New York City, they performed that iconic scene from me girl, mean girls were in the sexy Santa costume, yeah, and Bronwyn will, and Bronwyn was pretending to be the mom with the video recording. Yeah, I don’t think I think Brittany is I hear Brittany is safe, and I feel Brittany is safe, yeah, and maybe not full time, but I don’t think that she’s gone. I mean, if she’s on Broadway, that means we won’t see her much with the other ladies. So because where there was, we did have something about how she could be in a different kind of role. So that would make sense, right? If that’s the case. So Bronwyn had her own moment, because I guess the week before, Heather brought up the whole Todd thing again, you know, when Heather does certain certain things, it’s so produced and performative, and to make a moment for the fans. And I felt like that because Heather said it, and Roman just gave her a face like, Are you fucking kidding me, right? And Heather was like, I’m sorry, I’m sorry. And those are the moments with Heather that make me really annoyed. Yeah, but I need to stop being a heather apologist. She does move it along. She does bring it up. I know that the whole thing with her and Meredith was she wouldn’t talk to her, wouldn’t talk to her, wouldn’t talk to her until she’s front of everybody, right? But her reasoning did kind of make sense when she was like, I just don’t want her. I don’t want to have us be a private conversation and then have her completely twist it like she does she has in the past. I was like, that’s kind of a good point, Heather, because Meredith does do that, and I still go back to like, I just, I don’t believe that four or five of the women would all make up that something happened, if there wasn’t some truth to it, I definitely think something happened. I think that they’re all harping on it a little bit excessively. I think they’re looking to make Meredith a storyline, because she doesn’t really have a connection outside of Lisa. It’s very clear, with all of them being in the city and doing that show together, they’re, they’re like a crew, and Lisa and Meredith are on their own. I mean, Meredith has married to an extent, right? But Mary’s Mary, she’s always gonna, like, she’s not gonna ally with somebody, right? Oh, yeah, I have a question for you, because obviously we’re gonna talk about it, but the rumors about Whitney and Justin and their marriage, did Justin go to bravocon at all? I can’t remember. So, okay, here’s the thing somebody said to me at the bravocon taping where she was very trashed, like totally wasted. She kept saying, where’s Justin and Sean and John Barlow were there, and she was acting like she was very drunk, and Justin wasn’t there. But somebody else said to me that Justin and her were together all of bravocon, like he was with her at all, like most, maybe he wasn’t there at that like at that panel, or whatever it was, but he was with her. I feel, and I don’t know why I always feel like, first of all, every year, there’s speculation between seasons or when it’s airing, that her and Justin are splitting up every single year, and I don’t know who’s doing it, and I don’t know what, I feel like they have a good marriage, and I feel like they’re not above using it for a storyline. And so it’s always hanging there. That could be, yes, they do seem to have, like a pretty I don’t know, though I go back and forth, because then I think about, you know, the year before, where Whitney was upset because Justin, you know, wasn’t, wasn’t helping her as much. And even though she was so busy and that she.
She had supported him for so long. And, yeah, you’re right. Maybe that each time they’re like, What in our marriage, can we poke this year? I think this year is like, you know, the business and how it was an ill advised move to go MLM, I don’t believe though, that if he is the one who’s really wanted out that he would just stick around because we read that somebody said he’s stuck around because of the money. You know, his reputation is gone, and now Whitney has blown all their life savings. He’s ready to I don’t believe that he would stick around. In that case, people are forgetting that Whitney earns a very hefty check from Bravo. So this is her. Is this season six. So she’s right. She’s making very good money, plus any brand deals and all of that. Now we know that housewives live above their means. Lord, do we know it, but they were just in New York City for Britney’s thing and a cocktail, or spotted them at the Mandarin Oriental, which is probably very nice hotel, yeah. I mean, if not the most expensive close to it. She also just posted on her stories, just in buying a fancy new truck. So yeah, they could be overspending, but money has to be coming in, right? Yeah. So I don’t know something about them. Almost seems like they do share all of this stuff, but then behind closed doors, everything’s like, good with them. I don’t know why I feel that way. It’s just a feeling I have. I just don’t see it. I don’t I think he’s very devoted to her. I think, if anything, yeah, and also, if they like that open marriage thing, like they have a good thing going, because you’re gonna leave that and then have to be in a monotonous location. I don’t know, I I don’t know,
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Okay, so let’s go on to the Secret Lives of Mormon wives reunion. Tell me what you thought about Stasi.
The host, you know, steady. I feel like got a lot of flack, a lot of people in my DM saying they thought she was awful. Ah, I thought she was good. I think she was kind to them. I think she was trying to be understanding and relatable. I don’t really know what people would expect from a host. Like, what did you think? So, I actually think she was great. I think the reunion was bad, and let me tell you why I think the editing was bad, but I don’t think it’s the editor’s fault. I think that secret lives of Mormon wives might be in a situation where they’re becoming victims of their own success, so meaning I think they might be filming too quickly in between seasons, and that it’s getting hard for everybody to keep straight what they can talk about and what they can’t, because, as we know they were supposed to that when they were there was supposed to be an order for, I think, 20 episodes, but what they’re doing is splitting it up into a Season. Is each season is 10, and we know they’re, they’re filming right now, and that there’s, we get a lot of questions about, like, when will this actually film? Because it’s starting to get hard to keep track of for everybody, and they don’t want to give, they didn’t want to give spoilers for the next season. So you would see them start to talk about something, and then sassy would say, you’ll see more about this on season four of Secret Lives of Mormon, right? She was like, Hey guys, stop talking. We’re not allowed, yeah. Like, she knew what she was allowed to touch on, yeah. So I don’t think he’ll go hard with reality, because I feel like oftentimes we complain that, like with summer house as an example, we’re watching it in real time, whatever’s going on with Kyle and Amanda. There’s too much of a break between seasons, and this is too fast. So I agree. I think, yeah, and I really think that is what the issue was with the reunion. Because I think too I also think that they break the fourth wall a lot on this show, and they all don’t seem to be held back too much from sharing real time stuff on their social media. So, like, you right? And so I think that everything’s blending together for everybody. I think everyone’s having a hard time keeping it all straight. I know I would. And so I’m having a hard time as a viewer. Yeah, like, Yeah, I agree 100% with what you’re saying. I think they just need to make us like I’ve said it before on other shows, like, make us miss you a little bit and give it a little breathing room, but because what I think will happen is they do share so much on social media, and they do fight on social media, and so by the time the season comes out, I feel like we basically know it, and there’s not so much an urgency to watch it, right? And I think the way that we see Bravo do it, I think it actually helps everyone’s head stay a little bit more straight in that you’ll see, for example, the summer house crew, they don’t share pictures from like the snooze land, snooze fest, whatever party until they don’t share it real time they save it. And I’m sure this is contractual, but they save it for the week that the episode airs. So they it feels like it all makes a little bit more sense. Yeah, yeah. What else should we talk about? Oh, so it came out during the season that Dakota Taylor’s baby daddy was sexting her mother’s best friend. And of course, you know, he gave a tearful apology. I am not here for it. I doubt anybody. I mean, I love the editor’s flashback to the last reunion where he was giving a tearful apology, and he promised to be honest, throw him out. And also, while we’re throwing him out, clearing the women off the stage so that Dakota could say his piece. What super disappointing. Apparently, Taylor and Dakota were sexting right before she left for the Bachelorette. For me, it’s a bad look for the Bachelorette. Listen, I understand. I never really felt that that show was legitimate and that people were there to find love, but you’re supposed to have the premise and be under the guise of it. So us knowing that she was actively hooking up with Dakota right up until she left, means she’s gonna come back home. And whether she meets somebody like somebody or whatever, Dakota’s there, they have to co parent their child ever you know, are we gonna tune into the Bachelorette? Honestly, hearing that kind of makes me not want to, because I don’t feel like she actually, you know what I mean? I don’t know. I just feel like maybe she wasn’t the best candidate because she’s got so much going on at home, yeah, and she’s still so wrapped up in it. It isn’t as if her and Dakota have been broken up for a long period of time. It seems rushed, and it seems like the bachelorette is going to end, and it’s going to be one of these things where she’s like, I really like you and I think we should date. I’m not fully out of moved on from my situation with Dakota. Like, what else you know? What I know? Oh, my God, let’s hope she doesn’t do that. I do think it’s possible for her to leave Dakota in the CO parent zone and leave it there. I think it’s got to be really hard.
Hard to separate what somebody is telling you versus then things that you’re hearing. So their whole situation is obviously, it’s messy. I think it’s a terrible look of Dakota to be talking about it, because it makes him look bad. It makes Taylor look really bad. But he also knows that part of his ticket is Taylor, and he knows that, yes, he his whole ticket. Yes, ABC and bachelor and bachelorette fans, they want the fairy tale. So talk about messing with someone’s paycheck. Like, I just think he’s a Dumas. Like, I really just, I just do and he doesn’t. I don’t think the man thinks two steps ahead, even two steps ahead, and he is going to regret talking about this. Yeah, I think so. It just, it’s just a bad look for all of them. But I agree, like it feels a little rushed, but at the same time, if I were Taylor, I would take it and of course, you never know. Like Love could happen. Like love, even if she’s fully not expecting it to happen, it could. So that’s true. You’ll see, you know, so there’s, I think there’s a chance. But So Amanda says we’re watching, I think we’re watching. Okay, I’ll be very, I’ll be very pessimistic about it, but I’ll watch. What if Marciano shows up as one of the bachelors? Can we talk about the Marciano of it all, okay, so as gross and shiny as he is, I believe him when he says that he did not grope Demi without her consent and that it was all I believe him, because it really does seem too like Lisa Vanderpump has said sad, like, I’ll pull out like, and for him to go ahead and sue her like this. Like, yeah, I believe him. We just got an email. Did you even see it yet? No, this is a good one. It says rumblings are that Brett is catching on to Demi’s lies. We saw him question it last season. But truth is, he didn’t fully believe her and questioned if she cheated, this lawsuit is going to be bad, and Brett doesn’t want his money involved. Marciano was including pages of text messages, and LVP will help with footage. So we had cocktails. Know that there’s allegedly footage that may now become a part of this lawsuit. We knew about the footage, so then we got this email back to the so that’s that on that. Yeah, does? Brett divorced, and then they posted all these pictures hugging and kissing. I don’t know what to make of it. How are they making money if she’s not back on the show? Now, as a paparazzi, they knew they were being photographed and they were act I mean, you could tell they’re passionately kissing in a Nordstrom. Like, yeah, I’m still kind of a newlywed, and I’m not doing that. No. Also talk about confused at the reunion. Jesse and Jordan, like it seems like he wants to get back together. She doesn’t. I know we’re gonna see this on season four. Definitely feels like a band aid. I don’t personally see them making it. Brett and Demi. I mean, he refuses to acknowledge what she’s done, which is totally, like, bizarre. But what’s going on with Jesse and Jordan? Yeah, well, first, really quickly, about breath. He came off as, like, you know, Biff from Back to the Future. He came off as such, a bit like the way that he was being, like, he was being so mean to Jen’s husband and called him boys. And I was like, God, you’re he’s just a bully. You know what’s funny? When I first saw him on TV, I thought he was so gorgeous, and it just goes to show you that personality can ruin it, because I totally saw him as a dweeb.
I completely agree. As of this week, Jesse and Jordan moved out of their house. They had the typical influencer video of the moving company packing them up, which they did together. They’re still doing some social media together, but it does seem that they are living apart. So this whole dad talk thing, I am not here for it. I don’t really care to see Jordan anymore. I just there’s something about him, and a lot of the men actually on the show, that really gives me the ick. I couldn’t when, when Stasi kept saying dad talk. I was like, stop it. So they’re filming season four, and we got some intel that there will be spin offs. I forget if we mentioned it, but we got more stuff this week, multiple spin offs was what we heard with the cast of the current show. And then just yesterday, we got another email. Do you want to read that one? Sure it says it’s true. Ladies, see, I like how they’re talking to us like. Ladies, no email us it’s true. Ladies, Secret Lives of Mormon wives, spin us, or in the works. However, there is grumbling, because some of the opportunities that the other ladies are getting. Rumor is that Whitney will be followed on her Broadway journey and that the ladies will make appearances at her show. Right now, no one is talking to Demi. There have been attempts to try to stop her from.
Making a fool out of herself, but she is determined that she is right and she is not backing down. LVP has said she will release those tapes. If this goes further, Jen and Zach may get a spin off on their life in Arizona. So much to come soon, if negotiations work out, then we had intel from another email that said Taylor could have her own spin off if she finds love, and her season is good. Well, that’s a good reason to make sure you find love. Yeah. Essentially, Hulu may want to split up the cast into multiple shows. Listen, they’re not stopping this train. Whatever we want to say about these wacky people, they are authentic. They’re giving their real lives, and their real lives is psycho we’re all tuning in. They’ve already got the crossovers going with Vanderpump Villa and, you know, Secret Lives of Mormon writers already. Three of them have had shows outside Taylor’s currently filming The Bachelorette Jen and Whitney were on Dancing with the Stars. I believe that we will get a spin off or two. Which one it ends up being depends. It could also be a combo, a few episodes of Whitney, then a few episodes of Jack and Jen, Jack and Zach and Jen. The thing is, these people are very green, meaning they don’t really understand this reality world. They’re not polished. They certainly are not PR trained, right? And I also feel like because their platforms are so big with the brand deals and the influencers, they make so much money off that they probably don’t demand what the average reality star might for all these shows they’re doing. Does that make sense?
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sweet, melty bite of a HERSHEY’s Bar, and suddenly I’m right back sitting on the front porch with my grandmother on a slow summer afternoon. She doesn’t say much, just breaks the bar in half and hands me a piece. I open my mouth to say whatever a nine year old wants to say, and she replies with a low
listen. So we sat there listening. That was the first time I learned that quiet can feel full Hershey’s. It’s your happy place.
Hi, I’m Dr Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter. In this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches. Like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh, yeah, you know, I just, I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive, we deep dive into your medication, we deep dive into your OTC medication, and then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
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I do think this makes sense. I get the idea of running with something when it becomes successful, and just use a little restraint to keep us.
Interested. But if we have all these spin offs and we’re following what you know, what news journey like, just give it a little Hulu if you’re listening. We love you, but give it a little breathing room. I feel like the season could have been five episodes instead of 10, especially if we’re using the same folks. Now, if we use new people, and we franchise in a way like housewives. Wow, that’s funny. So this is the next thing we’re hearing. We’re hearing that it’s more than just spin offs. We’re hearing they may franchise the series similar to real housewives. So Secret Lives of a new city, baseball wives, right? Anything? Nashville? Yay. Wives. People want Nashville. People want Chicago. They already have a Chicago cast. If Bravo hasn’t scooped them up, those people are ready to go. They’ve been filming. Yeah, sounds like you know, Hulu is taking a page out of Bravo’s books. County is coming for Bravo. I mean, think about the Palm Beach show that looks very housewives. Ish will be the judges, whether it is or not, but that’s on Netflix. I started Ryan Sirhan. We’ll save that for cocktail. I love I just love him. He is so freaking smart and hot and he just makes such good decisions, or not, enigmatic. Is that the right word? What’s the word when you have a lot of charismatic, charismatic, charismatic, and he just makes what we’ll get, we’re not gonna get off track. But because we got to cover the Amanda and Kyle, okay, the never ending situation that you heard here first, you sure did. Guys. You know we have been talking about this. We’ve had this until, since October. We posted it before Bravo con because we just had too many receipts that couldn’t be ignored. The denials and lots of denials, lots of half denials, lots of, I’m gonna make fun of it, like Amanda making that post where she was inside Gemma’s, like baby house that, yes, I’m living in a new I mean, she’s definitely every like everyone’s dancing around it. We’ll put it that way, but yes, we’re still hearing that they are living apart. They were not hanging out together at bravocon. We’ve been talking about this guys. And then the summer house trailer came out, and we knew the summer house trailer was going to be wild because we we were getting intel on stuff that was going on, and it sounded crazy. And boy, was it crazy. So we had heard, and I’m not sure if both things are true, it’s a game of telephone. So when we get stuff, is that always exactly what we get? We had heard the final straw was that Kyle brought girls back to her apartment, and this may have happened after filming, like, partying, and just brought them back, and they were hanging out in the living room. I’m not saying, like, hooking up. I’m just saying, like, what in the trailer? If they say he slept at a fan’s house, Amanda is shown talking to Lindsay and Sierra, I actually heard the fans house that he slept in was the building that Sierra lived in at the time. Yeah. And somebody actually DM me, and they were like, B I told you about this, because this person lives in that building. And like, yeah. And guys just remember that. Like, sometimes, anyway, I won’t say that. So on the the clip on the trailer, Amanda says, Kyle fell asleep at some fans apartment and came home at like, 630 in the morning. So Kyle this week came out and made a statement, and it said there’s no excuse for staying out as late as I did, but I want to be clear that I did not sleep at a fan’s apartment. I was at an event that Amanda chose not to attend, which moved to a bar and then to an after party. I don’t use anything to keep myself wired. So I think I ended up falling asleep on a couch, and suddenly it was almost 6am Do I regret the situation Absolutely, but that’s the truth and the full extent of what happened. Who is advising this man? And so, of course, we posted it. Everybody posted it, yeah, and reading through the comments, the feedback is the most glaring statement, for starters, is that it feels like he’s blaming Amanda, saying, well, she was invited and chose not to come too. He also said, I don’t take anything to keep myself wired. What are we congratulating people now on not doing cocaine to stay awake. It was just a when we’re in our mid 40s, like that is such a weird thing to say. Kyle, it was so weird. He says he didn’t sleep over someone’s house, but he thinks he fell asleep on a couch. Here’s the thing, there’s no requirement to go to an after party. There’s just so many things glaring to me. I find it to be like a sad situation. It just seems such a mess, and there’s so many different things. It’s not like this is a one time thing. Now, there is another Tiktok that I saw someone share of him at a party, and the timestamp is 530 it’s from, like, Snapchat. It appears to be a sorority. Oh, we’ve gotten a lot of different stuff over the years. If you.
Guys are subscribers. You’re more privy to some of that. It’s I do hear that he wants to work on it. That’s what I’m hearing. He wants to work on it. I don’t know if Amanda’s open to it. You know, the thing is, and shout out to face reality 16 on their Instagram, they put together a compilation of all of the times that Kyle has done stuff that has been on their show, and all of the times that Amanda has forgiven him, one of them four weeks before they got engaged, another one right before their wedding. So I honestly forgot how many of these situations we have witnessed on camera where he says he got blocked out and he doesn’t really know what happened, and it was just a kiss, or maybe it wasn’t. Maybe it was nothing. Who knows, and she forgave him. Do I think it’s listen? I think they’re living separately. Okay, I’ve said it 1,000,001 times. Do I think it’s possible that they’re working on it while living separately and on the spin off we see them working on it? I do think it’s possible. And the reason I think it’s possible because at this point, with all of these leaks, wouldn’t they have to just make a statement that they split? Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I think, I think it’s possible. I think there’s a lot of reasons that they might not be talking about this right now. And you know, we’ve said this before, like, it could be that, and it’s likely that they’re contractually obligated to not talk about it because it will be either on summer house, or it will be on the new in the city show. You know where I was thinking about my head, as you are talking about this is like, I mean, there are clearly such different people who want such different things. But I don’t believe that, even if, because I just keep thinking about his that statement, and how he’s like, Amanda was invited and she just didn’t go, I’m like, even if he married like a total party girl who still was wanting to go out and party like, I think he’d still would be finding ways to go and do his thing. Because I think for him, it’s a glory or a attention and kind of thing that he can really, truly only get from, like new people, right? A weird validation thing, I don’t think the attention from the masses, yeah, yeah. And another thing, they were at us at a time, yeah, they were at a threads event last night, and there were a lot of people there, Melissa and Joe Gorga. It was like an intimate dinner, and it was all Bravo labs, mostly New Yorkers. Of course. Sheena flew in for it, and Kyle and Amanda were sitting at separate ends of the table, so it’s like they’re not doing any I don’t know. I think Kyle would very much like to do stuff that shut down the rumors, and I just think, I think she’s unwilling, but the fact that there’s no official announcement, because she kind of does this with him, like, doesn’t even when they were dating, doesn’t break up or end it, but get like, ignores him or hangs out with the girls, and it’s just this, like toxic cycle. And I think that Kyle loves Amanda as much as he would love a wife. And I think, like in one of the clips that face reality posted, he said to Lindsay, when Lindsay was like, listen, like this is gonna come out, this girl is telling people, you guys made out and like, there sounds like there’s video, or whatever this is, four weeks before they got engaged, and he goes, I’ve never, I’ve been cheating on people since I’m 16 years old. Like, I don’t know how to be monogamous, so like, nobody needs to train you. I
know it’s bullshit, but I’m just, you get my point? You get I know we’re not standing up for Kyle cook on that one. I just like, what a frickin ridiculous in other words, I guess, like, I believe he wants to work on it, because I believe that he loves Amanda and he wants to be married to her. I just think this is as good as he can do in a marriage. Like, to your point, whether she was a party girl or not, I think it’s irrelevant if he was Lindsay, who is a party girl? You know? Like, yeah, I just hope this physical separation gives Amanda some clarity. You’re gonna laugh at me, but, or what if they have an arrangement? It’s not like, what if they have an arrangement and Amanda’s like, stop fucking up and getting us caught. Like, what if she’s all right with it? I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that. I don’t either. I don’t, I don’t believe that. I you know, I think actually think about Melissa Gorgas, Real Housewives of New Jersey, housewives tagline. I think about it a lot because I just see situations in my life, my friends lives, housewives lives, people’s lives. She said, You’ll never see how toxic something is until you breathe fresher air, something like something along those lines. And I really do think that’s absolutely true, because, like, sometimes when you’re in something, you don’t even realize how messed up it is until you get a few steps away from it and can get some perspective. You know, I think hopefully, I mean, hopefully Kyle can do better. But I don’t believe that. I think he tells her that he will, and then he does precisely whatever the heck he wants to, like for example, telling Amanda he’s gonna calm down the partying, and then he fully pursues a career in DJing. So he gets paid to stay out until three in the morning.
So.
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Sweet, melty bite of a HERSHEY’s Bar, and suddenly I’m right back sitting on the front porch with my grandmother on a slow summer afternoon. She doesn’t say much, just breaks the bar in half and hands me a piece. I open my mouth to say whatever a nine year old wants to say, and she replies with a low
listen. So we sat there listening. That was the first time I learned that quiet can feel full Hershey’s. It’s your happy place.
Hi, I’m Dr Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter. In this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches, like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh, yeah, you know, I just, I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication. And then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
Hear the full conversation, plus some fascinating facts about how gut health affects so much more than just your stomach. On beyond the script, a podcast from CVS pharmacy and I Heart Radio. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts,
it’s so crazy and well, we’ll get into the rest of the trailer, but him coming to blows with Carl, because not for anything, Carl is seeing everything very clear eyed, because he is sober, and, of course, he’s very good friends with Kyle, and loves Kyle. And I think we also have to recognize that comes with strings. And I just we have to call it what it is, Carl’s on the show, still, in large part because Kyle goes to bat to keep him on the show. And so Carl has a loyalty him, loyalty to him that transcends working for lover boy. It’s also summer house. He knows where his bread is buttered. But we see in the trailer, it comes to a head, to the point where Carl, like says, What the fuck is wrong with you? And I have to guess it’s in regards to his treatment of Amanda. Maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s in regards to his treatment of someone else, because we have historically seen him treat people poorly. Paige, Hannah, I mean, they created a whole career off of it, giggly squad, because he made fun of them as gigglers or something, and they ran with that. But I don’t know, like if the marriage doesn’t survive, which is a good chance it won’t, what does the future look like for him? Viewers are primarily women and gay men, and they’re gonna side with Amanda Absolutely, even if Amanda tries to keep it as amicable as she can, which she has no obligation to. But she might, because she might whatever do that for him. How does this affect his brand? If he doesn’t get it together, he’s in trouble. He really is gonna be. He’s in trouble unless he unless they divorce and they he keeps her since she’s since. Listen, the reality is they have no prenup, and she’s entitled to 50% anyway, so he keeps her on so the brand doesn’t suffer. If I was advising Kyle, I would if they end up divorcing, what I would advise him, if Amanda’s willing, is to have her be somewhat of a silent partner. Maybe she does some ads.
For them and whatever. And you know, oh, you know, our marriage didn’t work out, but we’re still friends, even if that’s a party line, yeah, keep her on. Lover boy. Let her continue to get her checks. You’ll be doing more of the work, but that’s your own fault, because number one, you fucked up, and number two, you fucked up because you didn’t sign a prenup if they separate, and even if she gets a payout if she’s no longer connected to Loverboy, that would be like if Sandoval had a brand after scandal, right? Right? Because when this comes out, it’s gonna be what he did splitting up because he falls asleep at fans apartments. And there’s videos of him doing this. And remember that thing in Charles it’s gonna be all of the what happened with Schwartz and Sandy’s, I mean, all of the mean comments just on the reviews that was so I can’t see how anything different would happen for Kyle. I mean, there was a certain me, is your smart guy, who’s friends with Schwartz and Sandoval, who lived through it. He wasn’t smart enough to stop that from happening to him. I mean, damn, the guy goes out and people act like they love him when they see him. So he probably is. So he’s probably just not very well connected to reality, which is that most people are gonna take her side in the situation, that he’s gonna look like a jerk no matter what, because his actions are speaking way louder than his words. If I’m him when we divorce, I’m hiring, well, I’m already gonna have an attorney who’s going to write up the contract for her to have 50% ownership. Me to have 50% ownership. Now remember, there’s a lot of investors, so whatever percentage they have left, right, she gets half of that, he gets half of that, and that’s the only way that this thing continues grinding. Yep, I guess we’ll see. We’ll see before we go. I just wanted to remind everybody that we are having a sale for cocktail party for the annual membership, where you can get $15 off of the regular price of 80. So you can get cocktail party for a year for $65 which I think again, bad at the math, but averages it to like 550 a month, which is much cheaper than you get even on sale with your monthly so also it’s a lot cheaper than it would be monthly if, because our annuals already discounted 10 bucks. So it’s really a $25 savings, exactly. And our so the code, it stays good until the end of the month, because we know sometimes people don’t get everything they wanted for Christmas but or for Hanukkah, or for any other holiday that they celebrate, so sometimes you have to do a little for from me to me gift. You can use this either on the gift, annual party, cocktail party subscription, which is what you do if you want to buy it for somebody as a gift, or you can use it on the actual annual membership, if it’s for you or you. I love a lot of our cocktails do put it on their list. And I love that, because I do that. Like, when my dad or my husband is like, what do you want this year? I like, I have all different memberships. I’m like, You know what? Like stuff that I get anyway, but I’m like, You know what do this for me? Like, Ipsy is one just different things. Like, yeah, big gift. I love it. So the code is cyber, C, y, B, E, R, 2025,
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