185. Tracy Takes on Bravocon…and spills all the tea

Our beloved Tracy is back from Bravocon and shares the behind the scenes details with us. Who was the hottest Bravolebrity? Who was the nicest? Who was the most fun? We share some of the tea sent to us over the weekend, including what Matt Ginella, Eddie Judge and Vicki’s boyfriend were overheard talking about. And we’re hearing more about the RHONY cast. Which Bravolebs may have hooked up? What is a day in the life at Bravocon actually like? Tracy spills it all for us.

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from Bravo and cocktails.com
and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I’m B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tea.
What’s up? Cocktail or Amanda? And of course, the one and only the superstar Tracy.
Hi cocktails. And yes, our vivacious, hilarious, very, very likely exhausted Tracy is here to recap. Bravo. Con with us. Of course, when B and I both got on, we both are like, Are you exhausted? Yeah, hi, trace, hi B Hi, Amanda, hi cocktails. Yes, I’m still, I’m on fumes still, but I’ll get back to myself in like a month. Oh, it’s exhausting. And Tracy is the rock star of the weekend. And Tracy, I’m you guys know this, but in case you missed it, she’s postpartum. So how many weeks old is Little Bo? He’s gonna be two months on the 25th I’m so bad at me, not even two months postpartum. Same amazing coverage. Thank you for being our eyes, our ears, our voice. Now spill it. Tell us all the tea.
Yes. Thank you so much. It’s legit, my honor. I have to give a special shout out to my best Rebecca, who was my camera woman all weekend, the poor girl just wanted to get a drink at the bar, and I would shout her name, like, come over here. We have to start filming. And she just, like, didn’t get a drink for like, a good hour and a half at one of the Brava paloozas. But she eventually got it. But she eventually got it. At the end, I’m like, I mean, she wins the biggest Trooper award. We love you, Becca, truly, and we thank you. Becca, hopefully I know that there was some fun hat as well. It wasn’t just work, work, so tell us about it. Yes, we had the best time. Okay, so let’s do this. Let’s talk about, like, who the hottest was, because that’s always fun to talk about. Very on brand for you. We had to start with the men, obviously, which is really, really hard, because I got up close and personal both Craig Conover and Steve McVey. So like, how do I first of all, when you sent me the Craig video, I was with my sister in law, and the fact that you said to his face, Craig, the one who makes us feel all something down south, I was like me and my sister in law, like, audibly screamed. We were screaming. I could not help myself. I had it like planned. I’m like, What am I gonna say? I’m like, oh, obviously, he’s a lawyer. He’s a storyteller, and he does make us all feel a little something down south. And he just like, did like the heart thing and smiled. I’m like, Oh, my God. But he definitely, like, is like.
Yeah, I want to leave my husband, marry you and let you control my work schedule hot. So that goes to hell. But then there is, you’re so hot I do butt stuff with you. And that goes to Steve mcmee. Just put it wherever you want. You leave the cowboy hat on. Let’s go on the farm and do it. But oh, my God, did you see Jesse McBee in person, I did. They were all there. They were all like, adorable, but like, somebody told us that ally Jesse’s wife was there in the audience, but incognito, yeah, incognito. And then an account who doesn’t follow me, who doesn’t really have any followers, wrote me when I posted that, and they were like, That’s not true. And I was like, Hi Allie, oh my god. Also, I had to give an honorable mention to Joelle from below deck. Unfortunately, he was feeling you up. He was shaking you, hugging you, yeah. I was like, I’m married. I’m married, right? I’m like, am I married? Yes, I’m married. It’s like, but him and my friend Becca were like, flirting. And I was like, oh, let’s do this. And he’s like, here’s my girlfriend. I’m like, Oh boo. But I’m so happy that you found love, yay. So he’s very cute in person. Oh, my God yes. And then, if you didn’t see the interview, he definitely gave us some good tea about their side of the story with below deck and Salt Lake City. So I’m very excited for that. It’s gonna be so good, yeah, then obviously we have to talk about the ladies. Amira from next gen is, like, shockingly hot, like she’s my vote for HOTTEST. She’s so tall, and that was probably like the most exercise I’ve done postpartum, trying to interview her and holding up the mic, like looking up at her. But she is gorgeous. Gina from the OC and Asia are also so stunning in person, like the cameras do not do them justice. Gina’s also very tall she is, but Amira is like the Statue of Liberty, so tall. I mean, she must have been wearing very high, high heels. But, and you know, I have to say, Janet from the valley, gorgeous. Well, you know what? First season, there was a scene where they were all like, Oh, if you could be with somebody from the group, but not your spouse, which, like, what a toxic thing to do a but it’s the valley, right? Who would you pick? And almost all the guys picked Janet. And when they did that in my head, I was like, okay, she must, because there are people. And I know this from going to bravocon. Listen, everybody on the shows is good looking, right? Like, nobody’s woof, but there are people who, like, just look normal, and then you see them in person, like, I know for me, Sheena. When I saw Sheena in person, I was taken aback, because she looks cute on the show. Don’t mistake me. But in person, she’s like, crowd stopper, like, showstopper. She’s beautiful. So when they said that about Janet, I was like, okay, Janet must be hot in person. So that makes sense. Yeah, I’m sure Jason is hot too in person, yes. And she was so tiny, and she just looked great. We talked about being moms. It was all good. I have to say about Janet, she knows very well, because she is a fan our account, like she knows we talk shit about her, and she was very kind to you, and was like, a really good sport. And it does, I don’t want to say it makes me like her more, but it does like, I think it’ll like, have us give her more grace, because it isn’t easy to smile on someone’s face. I granted you’re not me, but she may not even realize that, and to smile on someone’s face who basically has talked shit about you for two years straight. It’s so true. I had the exact same thought, and because there’s been a couple other things that we’ve been hearing about filming behind the scenes that everybody’s been mean to her. And I’m like, do I like her? Though? What’s going on? Especially after seeing her interview, she just seemed very likable, very, yeah, very, very pretty. I was really shocked. You know, she’s obviously lost a lot of weight post baby, but she did seem stunning. Yeah, Janet, oh, you’re listening. Also think, yeah, I’m sorry. I was just gonna say, Janet, if you’re listening, now’s your chance, because you got us on a good note, and her best is like, Oh yeah, everybody loves him. But I think the thing about it is, some people are able to be bitchy, and it comes off like something about the way she does it. It doesn’t she’s not as polished as others. Yeah, I don’t know, yeah. I also I heard that she said, If you hate me in season one and you hated me in season two, you’re really gonna hate me in season three, which I thought was amazing. Yes, oh my. Okay. So, so tell us more. Yes. So, oh my, let’s talk about, like, the nicest like, when you’re at bravocon, it’s like Disney for Bravo fans, because everyone’s really super nice. Like, I’m interviewing the O of the OC Vicki, and she was stroking the back of my hair while I was interviewing her. But if I had to choose, like the nicest person, would have to go to Asha. She just can, like, talk to you for hours like you’re her best friend. She’s just so down to earth and just so lovely. I also got to speak to Terry debreau While I was waiting to shoot my tagline.
And skit with Heather. And he just, I was told him, oh, it just had a baby because I was trying to get, like, a free mommy job, because you’re at bravocon, you never know what could happen.
And he’s like, Oh, you look great. I’m like, thanks. And I was like, I’m 46 He’s like, That’s how old Heather was when we had our last kid. And he was just like, you just need to live, live your life. Have fun. And I was looking at him like, Hey, I’m at bravocon. I think I’m doing a good job so far. Yes, wait, how old is their last kid? 15? So that means Heather’s 60. No, so I looked it up. Actually, I think she was 42 when she had her last because she’s, I think she’s 56 and Coco is 14. Okay, so I think Terry gave away her real age. There’s no way Terry, who is a wonderful, devoted husband, got that wrong. There’s just no way. I mean, first of all, he’s a doctor, so you like, I just she’s 60, and she says she’s 56 Good for her. That’s the Aqua for under the eyes, which, by the way, I posted, and everybody and their brother bought. And I have to give a little warning. Now, well, a couple of you guys said that because I’ve been, I had same day delivery. I’ve been doing it, but apparently it can make Malia, you know, those little white dots. So I will say, I guess it’s not a don’t use it every day, but like, if you’re going out, or you have a date night, and you want to look like extra snatched, use it. But I think a daily use, it could clog your skin. That makes sense. That’s why I have all those Milia because I’ve been doing it for years. So I was like, This is not new, but yeah, oh yeah, I literally have to go get facials, like, once a year and get them all removed, because they keep coming back. Isn’t it funny that we do stuff to our skin and then we have to do other stuff to reverse we have to, yeah, exactly. Like, that’s like me with tanning, right? And it’s like, it’s, yeah, it’s laser season right now. So I need a laser so bad for all my summer freckles. Oh, my God, I need Botox. I’m ready. I don’t have a baby inside me anymore. Someone give me a needle to the face. Go, girl, you need it. So I loved, I loved all the interviews, but I really loved when you were interviewing Gina and Emily just hopped in. Was that planned, or was she just kind of in the area and just popped in? That was not planned? They have such a good friendship. They’re so fun together. I was just interviewing Gina and Emily was just like, I want to be a part of this too. And I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. They’re just so funny together. We were talking about their tiktoks that they do. It’s, I love them together, like one cannot be without the other on the show, in my opinion. Yeah, well, that’s not what I’m hearing. Well, I mean, if there’s a standalone, obviously it’s Gina, you know, and I feel guilty because it isn’t that I don’t like Emily. I actually think in real life, I would like be friends with both Emily and Gina. I just don’t know if she’s needed for the show in its current state, but we got a lot of OC. We got a lot of OC. We’re gonna keep talking about the Bravo con, but we got a lot of stuff sent into us that you guys saw. So Eddie Matt and Vicki’s boyfriend were spotted. I believe it was the Four Seasons lobby where everybody was spotted. And then they went to dinner. So one of you guys was at the table over at bourbon steak, and Eddie Matt and Vicki’s boyfriend started talking about naked, wasted Vicki’s boyfriend, I don’t know his name is it? I think it’s Michael. I think it’s my microphone is, like, falling guys, I don’t know, yeah, I can’t hear it. No, Steve was the old guy. Oh, you’re right. You’re right. I think it’s Michael, because that’s her son’s name. Yes, Steve Lodge. So Vicky’s guy was, like, I don’t know this Slade guy, but he seems terrible. And so Matt just went off. And the person is, like, Matt’s a problem. I can tell he’s gossiping about naked, wasted, but yeah, like they’re just out in the wild talking like about their show drama, as if everyone in that restaurant aren’t cocktails and aren’t gonna send it to us. So good, so good. I also heard that Slade was going around telling anybody who would listen at bravocon that he started real housewives.
So I listened to his interview with Heather McDonald about this earlier this year. And yes, he was part of the first season. And yes, like they asked in the early days, they asked him to, like, help make production calls, but he was never actually a producer. I think he really wants just to be seen as an OG housewife. Seriously, yeah, it all goes to show that you do not have to be inside the doors of the forum to get tea on bravocon. And also, from watching the last OC reunion, you could see that Matt seems a little bit douchey. I don’t know if I’m alone here, but I thought he was like unnecessarily aggressive to the women. And I don’t care what the situation is, you’re a man, and it’s never okay, yeah. Like, I was like, Okay, we’re gonna get the truth. And then he was being rude to the ladies, and I was like, Okay, maybe we’re not getting the truth. And like, he clearly can’t let it go if he’s still talking about it at bravocon. And I mean, with the slates.
Stuff. Do we think he says these outrageous things just so he’s talked about it really makes me wonder, because I’m remembering, and you know, OC, it’s the OG show, it’s the first one I got hooked on. And I remember Jo was, I want to say she was 24 because I think I was like, 20 or 21 and I remember being like, oh my god, like she seemed to have such a grown up life, and only was a couple years older than me. And it makes me think that Slade heard about this show, and maybe they weren’t as serious as they presented season one, but they but he wanted to be on the show because he is so desperate to be a housewife that he kind of made the relationship more serious than it was. Just to be on that would make sense and propose, because I think they were engaged at the time during season one. I just, I’ll never forget the French made like costume ever. That’s the thing I always think of when I think of those two. Since we’re on the topic of OC, I’m not sure if we’re gonna get back there. So I want to just share the email that I read, that I got, we got, because all of you guys are saying, Be, what does the Why can’t I find it now? What does the OC cast look like for season 20? And I’m like, I really haven’t heard yet, but it’ll be coming. Well, it came. Yay, why? Oh, because I’m on page two of I’m in the website, guys. I’m in the inner workings of it. Roc season 20 cast, and it says Vicki gumbleson will officially be joined by Tamara judge, Heather tabon, bedor Gina kerschneider, jen pedantry for season 20. It’s set to begin filming in late winter, early spring 2026, Emily Simpson, Katie Janella and Gretchen Rossi are on the bubble, meaning their returns are still being evaluated. Evolution media does want Gretchen back, which explains why they helped her clean up her social media scandal storyline. I don’t know if they helped her clean it up or the person knows that’s interesting, but are unsure how to realistically work it with Tamara. Producers are also looking to add one brand new housewife to the ensemble, as previously reported, Gina Keo, Joe De La Rosa, Lori, Peterson, Kimberly, Bryant and Alexis Bellino will appear in guest roles and special scenes throughout the season. Thoughts on that
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I love it. So I love it too. I don’t want Gretchen back in any capacity. Great. I think, I think she makes the show feel very stale. I think she set something off in Tamara that none of us want to experience again, and they’re not getting rid of Tamara. I think Vicki actually is going to bring a good energy. Yeah. I think that she could be a unifying force. It’ll make Vicki Tamara, Heather Shannon, they all have a long history together. We can get a good season from them. Ed and Gina and Jen were good. I was actually rooting for Katie to come back. I really didn’t like how Matt was at the reunion. Yeah, I don’t like when she said, You messed with my check. There were a lot of things about it that I didn’t like. And additionally, there’s a lot of stuff that she has done behind the scenes with content creators. Like, we know that they all leak, they all talk, but she really, like, forged relationships and, like, did a lot of she went too far, yeah, and I think she’s continuing to, I agree. You know, like the pulling Sheena Shea’s ex husband in DJ at her party. It just screams thirsty and like there’s only some of us, honestly, who really follow this stuff carefully, who would know that she’s would even understand the meaning of why she would be doing that, and it still just comes off as lame to me. I agree. I wanted to hop in and say I had previously said this before I wanted to see the trace amigas back together. I know a lot of people do not agree with me on that, but I think Vicki is kind of now in her calm era, and Shannon is continually discombobulated, and Tamara is unpredictable, and I I think it could be really interesting to take a new look at this friendship. Yeah, I’m here for it. I also don’t need Alexis back, even in just I don’t even need her to do an appearance. I agree. Yeah, they’re really irrelevant, like you want to be you want to do something fun? Have the Gina Keo have, have Megan King, have, yeah, no, no, no, no. Megan King. Megan King, she’s, she’s got custody issues with her kid. She’s, she’s done some really weird stuff now. Uh, what’s that? What’s that one? Lori Peterson, you want to make it fun, have a party and have the real OGS back link curtain, like Gretchen and Alexis are so thirsty to advance their own influencer careers, and they’re just they want to rehash shit Alexis with John, like, I never need to see John Jansen on a television screen again. No, yeah, they ruined their opportunity. They could have just been themselves and just like they just went, this is how we’re gonna make a show, and that’s when you lose the audience 100%
I agree. Okay, some other things that you guys want to know. West and Sierra were together a lot. They’ve been pictured a lot together, you know, since during filming, after filming, I heard there were zero sparks between them at Kyle’s DJ event, they did not seem romantic at all. I don’t think anyone is surprised by this. As a matter of fact, Molly outed that West and Mia slept together. Is Mia still with her boyfriend? Honestly, I heard she was, I don’t know. Maybe they have a little bit of a more casual relationship. Maybe they were on a break in any event, West be banging. He has slept with a lot of talent and fans, and that’s just what I’ve been told. I imagine he’s sleeping with people who don’t DM me about it. Did you see him? Tracy, I didn’t. I really wanted to, too that would have been an awesome interview. I feel like you would have been.
A perfect bellwether for, does he have BDE or not? Because I think he has too. I also I had a song, If I ran into Jesse Solomon too, I was like, but I didn’t run into him, but it was gonna be like, who will Jesse Solomon? Screw Bravo Khan. Is it me? Is it you? I heard Jesse’s a dick, yeah? Always would have hated my song, yeah? Like he would have tried to make you feel like you were a dork for doing it, when, meanwhile, he’s the dork who started it. I just feel, I have to tell you, I feel first season with Jesse and West, I definitely prefer Jesse because of the whole West Sierra thing, and what a fool from grace. And then he was on a panel, and they were talking about Vicki, and he’s like, Who’s that? Get in your fucking lane. You’re insulting an audience of people like who’ve been Bravo fans for 20 years. Who even are you? Whereas West, on the other hand, I heard was super cool. I definitely think he has BDE, another thing, because he’s next to these huge like Carl and Jesse, he’s six foot tall. West. Did you guys realize that? Yeah, so a follower is like, okay, b i met West. I hung out with him for a little while. She didn’t bang him. I think she was married or she or she probably would have, because he’s open. She’s like, he’s super cool, and he’s, I’m five seven, and in my mind, I felt like he was my height. She’s like, he’s six foot and he’s like, built like you could see on TV. But to me, he looked like stocky and short, but no, he’s got some height on him his face. I definitely think he had, like, some jawline done, because he just looks more attractive in the face. So there’s all of that. I also love how he speaks out against, not against, excuse me, in favor of women’s rights. I find that incredibly sexy. Yeah, like when, when with the abortion, and we don’t go politics here, but I find it incredibly sexy that he sticks up for marginalized folks and women’s rights and all that kind of stuff. So I totally get why West gets the girls. I agree. Querido invierno, Toyota no se cancer porque Toyota tiene veinticinco vehiculos, contraction permanent en las cuatro redasion en las cuatro redas maske, cualquier otra Roberta Camry, contraction en
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there’s clearly something there. You know, I’ve been, I feel like I’ve been perpetually online the last five days. So I can’t remember where I read this, but I read so I apologize for not crediting I read that Sierra and West had a quote unquote long overdue, much needed closure, type of conversation. I’m betting this probably happened during the summer, last summer, when they are filming, and that they’re totally good now, so that that makes sense, that they’re pals, but they’re not, there weren’t sparks. Yeah, I really like them together. Like, if we can’t have them together, like that, I enjoy seeing them be friends again. Like, they’re both so funny. And like, I feel like they should do a podcast together. That’s something I would definitely listen to. You know what it is? And like, good for C.
Ciara. Ciara is a person like, I don’t think she opens herself up. Like, she’s very selective. She’s selective romantically, she’s selective with close friends and like, I think that she found both in West, and it really took her time. And I think the complicated thing for us as viewers and as like, somebody like, I’m a girl’s girl, and I’m in a root for the woman in this situation, West really didn’t do anything wrong, except not reciprocate as strongly. So, like, he had love for Sierra. He appreciated her friendship. He was obviously very attracted to her, but when it got to the point of getting serious, he wasn’t ready for that level of commitment with her, and he was honest about it. And I just think it was like a situation, like, it’s almost easier if he would have been cheating on her in front of her face, because then we could all be like, and she could be like, you fucking asshole, but it was this weird thing where, like, she knew he didn’t really do anything wrong, but she was hurt, and that’s okay, and that sometimes just takes time, and I think that’s what she needed. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Okay, so what are we hearing about Kyle and Amanda? Oh, good grief. So let me, let me just say this, okay, today or yesterday, today, yesterday, they’re doing, you can’t make this shit up. They’re doing an ad for this organization, company. So all the summer house folks have done this, right? So some of, like the, all the people who live in the city, have used this company get it done or something, where they come in and they purge, they get rid of all shit you don’t need anymore. You donate it. They organize your closets, your kitchen drawers. It’s seems like something that I’m in desperate need of, but I actually said it once on the pod the last time we spoke about this company, and one of you guys reached out, who does it in the New York City area? So reach out to me again. In any event, long story short, she they’re both standing there with these people organizing their house. So like to them, I say, you know when you’d be purging and organizing when somebody’s moving out, that’s number one. Number two, maybe just pay them and skip this, because every single fucking cocktail er has DMed me and been like, Are they crazy? They spent all bravocon separately saying that they were fine, but never actually being in the same room, hugging each other, kissing each other, doing any of the things that would lead us to believe this storyline. And now they’re purging their entire apartment, and they also admit it, and they’re going through a rough time. So here’s my thoughts, and Kyle said to a cocktail or during a photo op, this season was the hardest for me, professionally and personally, but whatever, I guess it’ll make good TV. I personally think we’re going to see a lot of issues on summer house. We carry it into the spit off, where we’re going to see them, perhaps do a separation or something like that. There is no way this is nothing, because it doesn’t matter what kind of couple you are. There are some things that are like universal and universal. If you want to get it out there that you are married to your man, you’re going to do a photo op, you’re going to walk a red carpet, you’re going to make out with him on the right car. You’re going to show your fucking together and, oh, we don’t need to do that. Yeah, you do because you want everyone to think that you are. I don’t think Amanda really cares what people think. Honestly, I think so too. I think also the carousel Amanda posted was some video with some song. I’m sorry to interrupt you, but I just have to play this song, because it’s basically a breakup song. I’m sorry. Go ahead, tell me your thoughts while I Oh, well, I was just gonna say when they were together on the panel, they were sitting so far apart, like they couldn’t have touched, if they try, because they were sitting so far apart like that, the body language to me is saying, I’m done. I love you, Dean, yes, who I’m obsessed with, and I rest my fucking face. Okay, yeah, it I will say though I did hear that Kyle Cook’s DJ set was amazing, and that he’s actually really good at it. Yes, I heard that too. I’m sure he is. Listen, Kyle’s a very bright, talented guy, and there are a lot of things I like about Kyle. However, I think that they’re playing this wrong. And I think the fact that Kyle thinks he can live his life on not one, but two, but three. Now reality shows between summer, winter and a spin off give us his entire life, and then expect us not to be intrusive, and people to send tea and us to mention it. It’s like, Would You Rather we didn’t spoke about you at all and you were irrelevant? Of course you wouldn’t. So the good goes with the bad. I don’t dislike Kyle. I buy his lover boy. I watch his shows. I’m a fan of Kyle. I just It rubs me the wrong way when he says stuff like, yeah. And it doesn’t help that we had trolls putting stuff out about us. It’s like you didn’t have trolls putting stuff out about you. You had friends of friends sending messages that you guys were splitting up, and then Amanda’s talking to realtors, and you basically are proving it with every move you make at Bravo com. But okay, we’re the bad guys. Yeah, we’re, I mean, we’re not dumb. No amount of media training could help us not see that they were not doing well. I saw that apartment ad last night, and I was like, this is weird. I did run into a cocktail or that said she sent Dylan a lot of tea about Kyle at hackathon. And if you don’t know, is a restaurant by the Tao group, and basically he had girls with him. I actually chatted with Janet from the valley about.
About this, which I think maybe I’ll say for cocktail party. What do you think? Oh, yeah. Okay, done. So my final thoughts on Kyle and Amanda is, we wish them well. I want them both to be happy. I think that they’re great people. I like them both. It just is what it is. I think that they’re likely splitting up. Yeah. I also think Lindsay and Austin hooked up. That’s what I heard. I am loving Lindsay in her mama era. If mama wants to get some from Austin, Mama should get some from Austin. Also, like she is thriving. She looks insane. The T Mobile commercial she’s doing is adorable. She seems so happy. I feel like, did Paige moving on help? I think so well, it gave her the number one girl spot back, yeah, one half every picture I saw of her, even when she was in the middle of the fight with Tom Sandoval and his girlfriend, she looked amazing. So I’m imagining Tracy. She was probably at the top of the list of people you wanted to interview, but didn’t get a chance to was she on the list? Who? Who else was on that list? I really wanted that one also because I stayed at hub house, and I wanted to just chat her up about that. But others that would have been on my bucket list I didn’t get to do Kyle Richards, who looked amazing. I saw her on like a tiny side stage panel with her sister, Kathy Bose, because she’s amazing, and she probably would give such a sick interview West, which we spoke about Rachel Zoe, who was in the room with me at bravapalooza. I was so close to getting an interview, but she’s so new to this, and she’s just like, in her Rachel’s I’m just going where they tell me they go. I was like, All right, that’s not gonna happen. I would have loved to have interviewed Austin, because he’s our best friend now, obviously, but I think the number one miss for me would be Mary Cosby. That would have been so fun. I definitely would have worked in something about farting. I don’t know how, but it would have had to have happened. I also watched last night Salt Lake City. And I don’t know if it’s the hormones, but that church scene made me cry like I cried I didn’t even watch it yet because I spoke kids Well, without getting without giving too much away. There was a whole scene before that, with her and Robert Jr talking about now how nervous and excited she is for the new the church to reopen, and how much she’s looking forward to him being there and asking him where he is with his faith. And then when church day comes, he was high and denying him. And it’s, it’s heartbreaking. It’s heartbreaking. Yeah, I feel like we’re on this roller coaster with her. Yeah, her being back at the church, though, was just like, it was just fascinating and happy and sad. So if you haven’t watched it, watch it ASAP. It’s so good. Also, I wanted to say I had prepared if I saw Captain Jason to say, we want, we all want his anchor in our pocket, so that that was a missed opportunity. But I was like, Oh, please, let me run into him, please. Oh, my goodness, just to go back to Lindsay for one second. I did get some scoop on her and Erin, which, by the way, I love Erin leachy. You guys know this. Did you see her? By the way, I was on the plane with her on the way to Oh, I was behind her slash across, and I she was on her computer. And I didn’t mean to be a creeper, but I kept looking at what she was doing. I don’t even know if I should say so I will, as one does, I will say this. I was told by a couple of people that they did a photo op together Erin and Lindsay, and they kind of were just like talking to each other. Here’s the thing, you can’t expect people to not be who they are, and they’re both proper bitches, and I don’t mean that in a mean way, like Lindsay’s a bitch. Like Lindsay is not like the sacker and sweet. She’s not Asha. You know he’s she’s activated. If she’s with her bestie and there’s a fan there, she’s gonna be like, Hey, how are you? And then go back to talking to Erin. And Erin is the same way. There’s a reason they get along so well. Speaking of Roni, we have a cast, which we kept saying. They just presented the new women, but there are no contracts yet. I do believe that Martha Stewart’s makeup artist, Nicole Daisy is one of them. There’s another one. The name is Kerrigan. I forget if it’s the first or last name, but Erin was just with her last night, and I’m pretty sure she’s one of them. She’s like, a big time model influencer, I don’t know, but the sigh, Madison beef, can we make that quick? Oh yeah. It’s kind of amazing. It’s kind of amazing because you have Psy, who is such a New York gangster bitch, and you have Madison, who is a southern gangster bitch. So yes, Madison, if you guys missed it, Madison was on a panel, and they were holding up a sign, and Austin had to guess who it was. So she’s like, it’s the neatest person we’ve ever seen at bravocon. And Austin’s like, I don’t know, and it was Psy. So Psy writes on someone’s post. You must have me confused with another Brown Girl, because I’ve never met you. So then Gibson, you know, who has a great account. Gibson, Soma writes, no, takes a picture of CY and Madison from two years ago at bravocon on a panel together. And goes, well, I guess they did me. And Madison wrote exactly my point. And sy wrote, you.
Expect me to remember somebody I sat next to. And then they Madison post the DMS, where they cursed each other out in the DMS. And then sy says to her, I couldn’t pick you out of a lineup. Definitely going to be a squash the beast in 2027 because, yes, bravocon is every other year, which you learned first at Bravo and cocktails.com we told you guys this when they skipped last year. It’s a huge production. It’s incredibly expensive. It’s incredibly hard to organize everybody’s schedules. It’s a huge undertaking. It’s also very expensive for fans, so they’re doing it every other year, which makes total sense to me. But are we team Madison? Are we team Psy? I’m Team Madison. Madison. Yeah, I’m with I mean, you can not accuse somebody like, Oh, you got the wrong brown girl like take it back. Look at if you’ve ever met, speak to your people before you. You say something like that.
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Hi, I’m Dr Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter in this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches. Like I get a stomachache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, well, yeah, you know, I just, I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive, we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication. And then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
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I gotta say, because as we’re thinking, I’m just reflecting back, because we’ve all taken in so much content over the last five days, and I can think of a couple of things I’ve seen Cy in, but was she even really there? I mean, I know she was there, but was, I wonder if she flew in, flew out, because it didn’t seem like she was there there, like I didn’t see multiple outfits on her, like I did on Kyle, like I did on Sonia, like I did on Vicki. I don’t know that’s a good point. She didn’t know, like she was in the mix a lot, like I did three Brava palouses. She wasn’t in any of them. I’m sure she was in at least one, but, yeah, I didn’t see much of her. The vast majority of the feedback was team Madison. I think that we’re Psy messed up, because Madison did call her out first. So I do get the initial saltiness, bringing a brown girl into it, and then saying I couldn’t pick you up out of a lineup is kind of like you’re doing the same thing you’re accusing her of doing. In other words, every blonde girl looks the same, every Brown Girl looks the same. It’s like, okay, so I get that. And where she really messed up was when Madison DMed her, she should have just been like, my bad. Hopefully we can get a drink together at next bravocon and squash this beef. Like, like, I don’t, yeah, she could have dies a 4445 year old woman. You don’t have to go to war with people. There was a time in my life when I was younger where I was petty, and I get the initial pettiness. I totally get it. She got cold out. I get the initial pettiness. But to go to war seems so short sighted, well, and she my other issue with the whole thing is she’s clearly not playing along with the Bravo verse, just like we were saying earlier about Jesse saying that he didn’t know Jesse Solomon not knowing who Vicki is. This sort of thing is too. It’s like, you know, if you’re a professional, you should remember or.
Work to remember the people at least, that you’ve been on panels with, you know, and act like you, like Bravo, and like you don’t fight the hand that feeds you. And that’s my other kind of big issue with that. By the way, I did look it up. The woman’s name is Serena Kerrigan, the person you brought up that is rumored to be on the new Roni cast, and she’s even gone out and said this publicly that she has been approached by multiple shows from Bravo to be on so we’ll see. I think shy, I think I hope that sy didn’t shoot herself in the foot, because I don’t know that, even though, even like the existing the three, I don’t know that their contracts are signed, and the feedback was basically that the Bravo audience doesn’t care for Psy, and they are so so set on getting this right. Andy ain’t playing when it comes to Roni, yeah, so I think she may have done herself a serious disservice, and she better hope that there’s not an alternate waiting in the wings because her ass will be caught. Though, that’s what I was gonna ask you, ladies, is you think, like, normally, if it was like real life and someone’s like, Oh, I heard this person said you were mean. She maybe she wouldn’t react that way, but because it was in front of such a large platform, she’s like, Oh, this girl is now fucking with my paycheck, or my chances? Is that why she went so far left? She fucked with her own paycheck? She because she could, she could have used that moment. Listen, you take the publicity always, but you’re not established where you’re not a Luan who can do a clap back like that, and you have 20 years of fan on your fans on your side. She doesn’t have a strong Bravo. Base. Listen, she’s an influencer. She has a lot of followers. She has her own base, but you have to translate that now. So I don’t know why these women. The first thing I would do is hire somebody to advise me, yes, like me, or Tracy or Amanda, like hire us, because she could have won that yeah, and she could have stayed on brand, stayed shady, like a little spicy, but still done it in a way that pushed back, but then eventually, you know, it’s just, it’s a bad look all around. Yeah, she could have been like, welcome to New York. Hope I see you come visit me on the next season. Yeah, like, New Yorkers have a reputation, yeah, and I think she under s and to Amanda, who makes a fantastic point, it bothers me if she doesn’t know how beloved Madison is, because Madison wasn’t always Beloved. We all used to think Madison was a hoe for show in the a rod days. And then Madison, like grew up a little bit, got married, settled down, became Craig’s wing woman and Austin’s wing woman, and she’s quick with the one liners. She’s a sassy, spunky girl, and the vast majority of Bravo watcher watchers have a history with medicine, and where we’re at now is we’re rooting for her as a new mom and in her new marriage, and so we’re just not going to let some random, which would be Psy come at her sideways. Yep, 100
so follow the fan base, honey. Oh, Tracy is because so many of us are living vicariously through you. Tell us what just a day in the life at bravocon was like for you? So the food? Did you stay inside the forum the whole time. Did you go to the evening panels? Was there a different bathroom for Bravo liberties? Or were you guys all in there together? My God, can you imagine if I could pee on the same toilet as Craig Conover? Because, you know, I’d be going in the men’s room if we were sharing and pumping for Bo Oh, yeah, sorry, my breasts are out. Here’s my kitty. How are you? Because that’s how I shake hands, as B knows, at Japanese restaurants in the bathroom. So since I knew I was gonna film, I started my day with glam squad, which that idea came to me from Bravo afterthought, she posted about it, and I was like, Oh, I gotta get my makeup done, yeah, and it just made me feel confident ready to go. So our first order of business, Becca and I was to get a tote bag when we got there, so I could put my microphone and everything there. Because going through security, I got a little scared, because they’re like, no recording devices, which was weird, because everybody has a phone. But I was like, oh, maybe if they see my microphone still take it away, but we got lucky. So every day I had a brava palooza. So depending on the time that would be, determine my day. So a day where I had a brava Palooza at 12 Becca and I would start our day by getting hydrated, because we drank a lot the night before, they had this like water on tap station, which was genius, with these big Bravo thermists. And then we would do, like, go to those Photo Booth ops. We have VIP passes, so the lines were fast. So we’re like, okay, let’s do this one. Let’s do that one. We did reserve some photo ops. You could reserve them like the week before Bravo come.
On, and you’d have to go outside into a tent. Those lines were so long, it was like, not worth our time. I was like, I’m going to a Brava. Plus I’m going to see Bravo liberties there, VIP loud, and also just walking around. I’m not waiting for an hour for a photo. So definitely love to hear from the cocktails how that experience was. Then we would walk around the Bravo bazaar to determine, like, what things we wanted to get on the last day, because we didn’t want to carry all that stuff with us at the beginning. And like Wayfair was doing embroidered topics and pillows, Instacart gave out baking tools and like cake mix, Lexus were giving out makeup cases, which we missed because we waited till day three. So learning lesson there. I wound up getting extensions from locks in Maine on the last day. So I literally turned into a housewife by the end of bravocon. I would definitely do that on day one. I wish I had that like whole look for all the interviews. Another lesson learned. I mean, the forum’s beautiful. It’s so well late. It’s laid out so well. It’s definitely better than New York. I have to say New York would be a lot easier for me. But the forum is just, you don’t feel overwhelmed by people or things. You feel like you could do a lot. Anytime we had downtime, we would go to the VIP lounge, where there were photo ops with bravolebs and just Bravo labs, just walking around so you could be at the bar, and there’s like Carl walking by, you asked about the bathrooms, and we’re going back to the bathrooms. I wound up being able to run into the green room to use the bathroom that the Bravo labs were using because I was waiting for a photo op with our for our friend Steve McBee. I told his talent manager I had to pee, and he snuck me in. I was like, oh my god, this is my moment. And I saw, I saw somebody really had to be so, like, they literally got me in and out of there so fast. So, like, there were Bravo labs there. But I couldn’t even tell you who I saw. Food wise, the Bravo paloozas, they serve, like, yummy little appetizers, like sliders and tuna chart tar cones outside the lines for the regular food were in like, they had, like a hot dog stand on top, because they had such great food options. But the lines are crazy. So we’re right by this boardwalk, by the link hotel in Harris, where they have a bunch of restaurants. So we just went there for lunch. I only went to one panel the three days, and that was ask Andy, which was amazing. I saw the Rhode Island trailer, and we got the Ronnie announcement, which I sent to you both right away. I’m like, post it. Yes, bravo. Losers were chaos in the best way possible. You have no idea who you’re gonna get I’d get in. I’d set up my mics. I’d wait The minute I saw someone. I ran over to them, asked for the interview, I knew not to use my two drink tickets till the end, so I didn’t have to pee, because once you leave, you can’t come back, which I feel like they have to change that rule, or find a room where there’s a bathroom so people could, like, relax. People have tiny bladders, yeah, especially us moms, yes, and especially because you’re so excited. You want to meet these people. You’re drinking the wine, you have to pee, but you can’t leave. So let’s figure always we’re like, I have to pee if I’m nervous. Yeah? Just think I would be very nervous just to meet everybody. Yeah. And sometimes I would like stay by the door to get the brava loves as they came in first, which is how I got Tamra. Like, I didn’t even really let her walk into the room. Heard Eddie walked in. I’m like, Can I interview you for Bravo and cocktails and, like, I got her right before she went into her photo op. So she seemed like she was very gracious too. And she throws us she always gives us credit on two T’s, which we truly appreciate. Yeah, she was great that I was so happy to get that interview. She’s beautiful in person, right? Yeah, itty bitty. So itty bitty, so gorge and Eddie, you said, is much better looking in person, he is. I think he’s good looking too. I think he’s good looking. I just think they all shine brighter in person. Because you’re like, holy shit, these people just came out of my TV, and they’re standing right. How gorgeous was quad? Oh, my God. Oh my god, her skin. I want to steal it like it looks like it’s so smooth, everything she was wearing, her hair. I was, I literally said, I’m like, Can I have your glam squad? She like laughed at me. I was like, she is also tiny and so nice. I loved everybody
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Hi, I’m Dr Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter.
In this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches, like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh yeah, you know, I just, I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive, we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication, and then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
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My favorite was my interview with my boyfriend, Craig Conover. Fight me. Fight me. I know we can share. I’ll take the bottom. You take the top. It’s totally fine, and like on the Jewish holidays, we’ll switch or whatever. Yes. But so his lovely assistant snuck me into the press room for an interview. I wasn’t supposed to be there, so I couldn’t use my Bravo and cocktails, Mike, but he helped me get the interview. Craig walks over my vagina. Started crying, all the things. And he was like, should I put my jacket on? And in my head, I’m like, No, don’t put more clothes on. Put less clothes on. But I was like, whatever you want. And he had this, like, cute little pin on. And I was like, Oh, that’s so nice. And he’s like, I’m experimenting with fashion. I was like, I want to experiment with your first of all, the amount of heat. Sorry, go on, the amount of heat poor Craig got for his hair. I don’t think that man could look ugly with any sort of hairdo. But people were so very mean about his hair. I liked it. It was very he was like, back on the sides and big, well, it was puffy, it was slicked back. He was experimenting. Listen, he’s, he’s in a new era. He also was with, like, the fashion queen. I listen, you have to imagine he’s feeling a little like pressured, because pre page, there was no pressure for him to be fashionable. He was just cute, and it didn’t matter what he wore. And then he was with Paige, and he had the big glow up, because she, like, probably helped style him. Definitely helped style him. And so, like, post her, he’s probably like, oh God, people are going to be more critical of my outfits than they used to be, which is true. And like, appreciate him for putting in the effort. Yeah, so hot. What else? So we would pretty much stay the whole day, and it’s such a long day, so much walking. We did stay at the link hotel district three, for anybody interested for the next Bravo con, it’s the closest you could get to walk into bravocon. We did dinners at Vanderbilt Paris, where I had some cool things happen. Should I also save that for cocktail party? Yeah. The other cool thing that happened that some cocktail or saw was my skit with Heather Dubrow and Essie cup. So many of them saw it, they were like, all DMing me, oh, my god, Tracy’s on TV. Yeah. First of all, you had texted it to us, but I was in bed, like, checking, like scrolling my phone, when it came on and I heard your voice, and I got so confused. I was like, Wait a minute. Am I on the phone with her? And then I look up and I’m like, Oh my God, she’s on TV. If anyone knows what panel on peacock they showed that, let me know, because I want to watch it so bad, although somebody will DM me and I’ll let you know right away. I don’t remember. I know it’s so confusing. I’m trying to figure out which one I had. I was so confused because I turned on peacock and everything was like it was just on and I was I had no idea that you could just literally, it was just going to be showing a live feed, which shows that I didn’t do my homework as well as I should have. I also have to say I’m very happy as somebody who laid in my bed and watched it. But I don’t think that was that smart, because, like, maybe somebody would be like, Oh, I don’t need to go. I can just watch the live stream
replaces being there in person, though. Yeah. I mean, I It’s so true. Like, Becca and I were waiting online to just do this. Like, hat housewife, tagline, photo booth and, like, one of the Bravo talent people ask, does anyone have their own, like, tagline? And of course, I did, so they heard it, and they chose me to film. So it was Heather ESS cup with, like, a microphone. She moderates it, and I basically, like, delivered the tagline. And Heather would give me advice on, like, how to deliver better. And if you’re interested, my tagline was, I may be the funny one, but mess with me.
And I’ll have the last laugh. So, I mean, I’ve had that, and so I that was and also, like, we were trying to, like, figure out other ones for my friend so she could do it too. And I just went dirty. So they’re like, No, that’s too dirty. I’m like, Fine, sorry, but yeah. And, I mean, it was just like, for some reason, we were just at the right place at the right time for dinners, for booths. It was amazing. Well, Heather and the producers struck gold, obviously, when they found you. So please don’t leave us to go beyond. Roni never so you mentioned there was a bar at these events. So were people drinking heavily, including the Bravo levities. I mean, besides chef, I feel like avocat seems to be a game of endurance. And you said, like, also trying to not have to pee. So do it or do people skip to drinks? Were people just, like, going crazy, because it was Vegas, like, tell us it was like a mix of both. I think there was a lot of drinking there. I mean, there was definitely a lot of drinking, like the Bravo paloozas, they only give the normies two drink tickets. New York, it was open bar when they did the Bravo paloozas, which was, in my opinion, so much better. And you can leave the room to go pay. But there are bars all over the place. At bravocon, the VIP Lounge has, like, three bars. There’s bars on the show floor, and I really feel like it just is liquid coverage for anyone who drinks to just go up to their favorite Bravo libraries to take a picture. So there was, it was a party that’s so fun. I love it. Party like a rock star, yeah. So you would recommend going to bravocon and not laying in your bed and watching it. I would 100% recommend if you’re a Bravo fan, this is the mecca. And again, like I remember, I wrote the guide for bravocon, and like, two years ago, when I went, my friend had a general admission, and I had a VIP and I was able to just, she just would sneak in to the VIP lounge. But this year, they were scanning, so they had a lot more security. So my advice is, if you’re going to get a general admission, buy Brava paloozas, because right gonna guarantee that you’re gonna meet people, you’re gonna chat with them like you’re shooting the shit, and you’re not gonna have to wait on crazy lines. And if you can afford a VIP, still get the Bravo paloozas, because those are the most fun for in my opinion, you get the VIP lounge. You get the Bravo paloozas. It’s just you. You’re, I feel like sometimes it can be very overwhelming when you go to conventions, because you’re like, am I going to see this person? I want to do this. I want to do that. And if you get a brava Palooza, you feel satisfied that you met a bunch of people. And I know when I when I went to the panels, are fun, but they do take a lot of time. And considering they stream them on Bravo, I would rather walk around the bazaar and do the photo ops and do the Bravo paloozas, like the stuff that I’m not going to be able to see from home. Yeah, that’s 100% that like. That was the game plan photo ops, bravo paloozas. Eat, food, drink. VIP lounge. Love it. Tracy, we cannot thank you enough for being so amazing and having zero fear and going up, asking all these like fun questions, having these great interviews. We really appreciate it, and we’re hoping you can stay well. We know you can right still this cocktail party and tell us a couple more stories. 100%
yes, we love you, Tracy. Love you guys. Thank you for tuning in. And all of the videos are shared save to my highlights, but also there’s a link to the YouTube channel where you can just click through and see all of Tracy’s awesome interviews. Yay.
Bye, Tracy.