141. Tea and solving the world’s problems with Larry from @BravobyGays

Larry from @BravobyGays is here! We get right into talking about Paige DeSorbo being spotted at the Eagles game. We’ve got some info on the mystery man. Everyone’s doing a double take on Kyle now that we saw on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills that she is not just texting PK but telling him she won’t repeat what he tells her. Was this a straight up lie or a strategic bending of the truth? : Is everyone doing a double take about Kyle? Did she lie or just bend the truth? Traitors and other reality TV: what else we’re watching and what we think of Traitors so far. We then go into a bit of a side mission about Spencer and Heidi Pratt, the Los Angeles Fires, and how to prevent them in the future. 

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tape. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from Bravo and cocktails.com and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I’m B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tea. You
cocktails. Amanda beat the flu, and Larry is here, so we got good stuff happening.
Mary, anyway, guys, Tracy did. Tracy and b Thank you guys for last week. I literally was like, super sick. You guys did a great job, and she was gonna come on. I was like, I think you should it, yeah, I know. I’m probably glad I didn’t just given the way that I still sound, not that great, but I feel much better. So yeah, Larry, we’re so happy
to have you. I love coming and talking with you guys. Thanks.
I know you guys. We started talking. We’re like, oh, we gotta get them. We gotta start up for the pod, because we just immediately start chatting and like, it’s like, we never stopped, never okay. We got to talk about the craziness that just happened earlier this week, Sunday night, bees, minding her own business, doing her as I always doing on and gets a DM with photos and videos of Paige at the Philadelphia Eagles game.
I would like to before we get started on this conversation, reiterate what we said when they first broke up, and we said we are not taking sides. Paige and Craig are now single. We don’t believe that there is a scandal with that. Said, when we get intel, we’re gonna post it. If it’s about if I got a video and a photo of Craig at a Ravens game with a chick in a skybox whispering in each other’s ears, I would have posted it. I. Receive it when I do, make no mistake, I will be posting it. This is not a matter of taking sides. And if I to be clear, if I ever am going to take a side, it’s always going to be the girl’s side, because that’s who I am. I think that I’ve said it enough times on here, and we’ll get to that when we get to Kyle. The quality of the photos was not great, but the video was very clearly paged. Thank you to our loyal cocktail and to all of you guys who stop and record for us, even in the middle of a playoff game. I think Larry was at a playoff game. Yeah, yes, I’m not. You know me. I know the gents are out. The bills are still, still in it, Larry, yeah, we play the Ravens on Sunday. Oh, my God. So it’s the time of the year on my Bills fan and my husband too,
which I love it. And he
like, he’ll root for the Giants too, but definitely more the bills, because there’s less animosity. I don’t know, maybe because it’s upstate, yeah, and it seems out he’s given up. So within minutes, you guys figured out who the guy in the video was. I originally said I’m not sharing that because I don’t out people who are unknowns, because his Insta was private, but he’s not an unknown. And moreover, he’s already in the Bravo world, because before Louis, he was briefly linked to Teresa judiciary. Oh, wow. I did not know that. But here’s what I heard. I heard that Theresa was actually dating one of his friends, some guy named Chris, I want to say here’s what’s super interesting. This guy is 34 years old. We spoke about this on the Zoom last night. Larry, you know how the Gorgas always post that dear friend group, which they’re not on TV, but they’re all the wives are all real pretty, and the husbands are all average looking, but obviously successful, yes. And so they’re all like, mid 30s. Like, that’s maybe the husbands are a little like Gorgas, the Gorgas age, yeah. But the wives are more like in their early, mid 30s, like Rachel FUDA, right? That’s because they were really friends in real life, before the food is came on the show. Yeah. So those people, that’s probably how Teresa was originally linked to him, because before Louis, we know that the gorges and Theresa used to hang out and go out together once she was home from prison and Joe was away, and then her and Joe divorced, right? Yeah, I think that she wasn’t hooking up with Paige’s guy, Joe demilio, which we’ll get to the details on him, but because he’s a more well known, and Amanda will share why he’s known. I think that they just like Radar Online or reality blurb like they ran with that, because you’re not gonna post about some guy named Chris when you could post about the VP of clutch sports,
right? So your followers were so quick to find out who that was. It’s so quick. I don’t know how they were able to figure that out with those photos on the second or third slide that you posted, it was just like a blur. She was following him. No, I’m saying it was funny, like the photos that you posted. I was like, Oh my God, never know who he was.
Yeah, I know it was the cocktails. When they get determined to do something, they they figured the F
out. Oh yeah, they’re undercover agents. I’m pretty sure, for sure.
Okay, so the guy, he is a VP of Marketing for clutch sports. The owner of clutch sports is rich Paul, who represents players like LeBron, James. He is also adults, and apparently comes from a very wealthy family based in North Jersey. Okay? Adele,
so he’s rich. What are your thoughts? You saw the video? Larry, what were you thinking?
I saw the video. I obviously we knew it was Paige. She looked she posted, like, that bathroom selfie of her in like, the Eagles jacket she got from that 40 Niners wife who, like, yes, like made Taylor’s, like, Kansas City jacket. I don’t know how to pronounce her last name, I think is it? Yeah, I think ask you sick which I went on her website, and she has some bills gear on there that I, like, honestly thought about buying because she has stuff. But I anyway, regardless, back to Paige in that situation. So we obviously knew it was Paige. We knew she was at the Eagles game. I will tell you, I really just thought she was there with a friend. I did not think she was on a date. I really didn’t. I thought that she was just hanging out with a friend. I thought maybe someone text her and was like, let’s go to a football game. Get you out of the house, whatever. I don’t even think she probably thought she was gonna get spotted. You’re in a box. Maybe you’re not paying attention to that,
Larry, I’m gonna have to count her well. So listen, they could absolutely be buddies who are hanging out. Yeah. Now the follower who spotted them said that they were very close, whispering in each other’s ears, nobody else sitting in their skybox. This is what I will say. You pointed out she was wearing an Eagles jacket by Kristen. However you say it, her husband’s a 40 Niners fullback. Last year, she went from a little known football spouse with a sideline in customizing old team jerseys to a rising star. Are with an NFL licensing deal, a Today Show Interview and stories in Harper’s Bazaar. Vogue has also been in touch. Taylor Swift wore one of her customized jackets. Lot of buzz. These jackets take a long time to make. My like I wouldn’t
say that they necessarily take a long time to make, because she has inventory on the site. Because
this is what I said. That’s what I said on the Zoom, too. So the girl like girls, because last night we were talking about this on our cocktail zoom, and the girls were like, Oh, it takes over a week. I said, listen for Paige desorbo. I’m sure that we’re in the playoffs. I’m sure she has jackets like reserved for influencers, stars, reality stars, right? But with that said, Did Paige roll up to the stadium, and was it waiting there for her? Or, in other words, she didn’t wake up that morning and decide to go to the game? It
was a couple days. Yeah, I’m sure it was planned. Even if we’re gonna go to a game, we’ll know a week or two in advance.
Like, yeah, guys, the whole the detail that I think is the most interesting and the most telling that they were on a date is the fact that was just the two of them in the entire suite. That’s a baller move. And you don’t take your buddy and just take your buddy, be like, we’re gonna have the suite to ourselves if it’s just your buddy. So I think there was something romantic going on. And I say good for them again. We have mentioned that and but I think it bears repeating that the minute Craig is seen out, we’ll be posting and talking about that too. Like us talking about it is not us taking sides.
Do you think maybe it was like a work suite? Like maybe he got the suite through work? And I’m still,
I thought, haven’t you ever I’ve been in suites too, and it’s those seats are very expensive, and for him to have the whole thing to himself, to be able to make that decision, nobody else is coming. So you’re either buying it out or you have access to the tickets and be like, I’m not bringing anybody.
It’s a playoff game. I’m sure that other people wanted to go. Yeah, for sure. Like, it’s not like jets, the Jets last game of the season, where, legitimately, there might be two people in the skybox.
Yeah, and how early in the game was it taken? Do we I’m over here playing devil’s advocate? Do we think maybe other people just weren’t there yet? Because I saw, I also saw, like, someone comment on the video that was shared, like she also he wasn’t even paying attention to her while she was talking in because he was watching the game. But that
doesn’t mean they’re not real. Not romantic. I’m married 16 years, and my husband doesn’t pay attention to me when he’s watching
b How long does it take to take the train to Philly? Ah, I think
Philly is only an hour and a half over. I don’t think they took the train. I would imagine he chopped her in or did like the blade, right? Like Bryn does, like, like he’s multi like his dad was allegedly the CFO of Pfizer. Is the CFO of Pfizer, like he’s a trust fund kid and he’s the vice president of Adele’s fiance’s sports management company, which is the largest in the world. So if he’s repping guys like LeBron James, that means he’s getting a present percentage of every deal. And so if LeBron James type guys are, and I just keep saying him, because, as you guys know, I don’t really know that many athlete are like, if they’re inking a Nike deal for 50 million, and he takes his 10% and he’s got 15 guys he represents, he’s worth 50 million, yeah, and that’s the board Trust Fund. The whole
point is you’re going all the way to Philadelphia to go to a football game. This is not just a like, last minute a last minute. Sitch, no.
It definitely seems like it was something that was planned. I don’t think it’s that far, though, because I know. And now B, you’ve met my girlfriend, Christina. Her brother lives in Manhattan, and so they went to her and her father went to New York City, and then the three of them, her father and her brother, drove to Philadelphia. Oh, it’s not that far. It was, like an hour and a half. And they, like, went there and then went back to the city. Like, it wasn’t like, it’s not as far. I’m just saying about
my cousin lives outside of Philly, but also I’m usually leaving, like on a Friday afternoon when the kids get out of school. Yeah, and my daughter does soccer tournaments in Philly. What do you say two and a half hours? I would say two on a good day, two and a half with a little traffic. Yeah, that’s not too far. No, I still I believe that they drove,
yeah, probably right. They probably, she probably didn’t just go right straight home to the city either.
I thought of something, wait, I thought of something last night on the Zoom, and I feel like it’s a possibility too. Number one, Paige is single. Yeah, did get an email, which I don’t even care to share it because there’s no proof. But there people are claiming that this is the guy from New Year’s Eve. She broke up with Craig. For this guy, people are claiming that I listen. I’m gonna tell you that I told everyone who messaged me who I believe a lot of them were. So this guy had a fiance. The fiance called off the wedding three months ago. Okay, friends of I’m gonna assume, because how would they know? Um Yeah, claim that Paige and this guy were chatty in the DMS before the fiance called off the engagement. So what I said to everybody who alleged that was, listen, yes for equal opportunity. Yes. If this was Jackson Brittany, I would post that, but I do have favorites, and Paige is one of my favorites, so I’ll post it, but you have to show me your receipt. And right? I don’t even need to post the receipt, okay, but you have to show me so I know, so I can have some confidence in posting this, because you’re just to me looking, listen, Paige has 1.4 million followers. There’s a world where this fiance broke up with him because he was a jerk. She didn’t want to marry him, and now this is a great way for her to get a huge following on her tick tocks, because she’s a beautiful artist within like her artwork is great, by the way, the fiance in the art gallery, it’s possible that she didn’t know nothing about Paige. Maybe they were on a date. Maybe they’re just friends, but she’s, oh, this is a good opportunity for some traction for my social media accounts, brand deals, whatever.
Like for her to say something, like for her to
post these cryptic tick tocks, like the guy was, you see what she’s been posting?
Larry, I don’t follow. I don’t know who she is, so, no, I haven’t seen it, but that’s weird that you
would I get it sent to me, yeah? And I’m sure you do too, but she’s been posting on tick tock and Instagram. Like the angry Taylor, yeah, Sabrina carpenter songs basically saying, like, heartbreak is one thing, my ego is another, yeah. Like,
seems like looking for clout off of the situation.
Yeah, I didn’t post it. Everyone’s like, why didn’t you post the emails? I spoke about the emails on the Zoom. I’m letting you guys know my reasoning behind not posting because I feel like in this situation, based on Paige’s character and how we’ve seen her behave over the course of, I would say five, six years. It’s very out of character. So if it did happen, it is tea, I will post it, but show me a receipt. And if you can’t which they didn’t, then I’m saying
it’s bullshit. Yeah, no, I get listen. You are, you are an equal opportunity
person when it comes to saying what needs to be said about
everybody, call ourselves, yeah, opportunity, yeah. But there
was a girl last night in this, no, I’m just saying, like, saying, if this was VPR, you would have just posted all the emails, and I’m letting you guys know, yeah, I probably would like, yeah. But also, VPR is so rampant with cheating, and this that and the other thing that Paige is not like. Paige and Craig have never cheated, and not just on each other. They both were in other public relationships. They’ve been reality stars for a while. If it was Taylor from southern charm, yeah, I’d believe it, because she’s cheater. If it was Sandoval or Jax or La La even, I believe it, because they like have a history of being shady with relationships, but certainly Paige doesn’t.
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which, by the way, completely off topic. But I just have to, like, point out that I am extremely proud of my daughter for something tell we have been watching traders, and she doesn’t know about Sandoval and scandoval or, God bless her, and she’s Who is that guy? I don’t like him. I just don’t like his whole vibe. And I’m like, Girl, good for you. I’m really proud
of it. She can spot F boys at her young literally, will serve her totally well. Can we talk about traders for a second? And Larry, I know you’re pissed about this too. Guys, stop telling me it’s a spoiler. It came out two fucking weeks ago. I hate it. I hate it. I don’t do it the next day. Like, okay, the new episodes tonight. I’ll wait the weekend, but by Monday, all bets are off. If you can’t squeeze it in, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday, ain’t my problem.
Yeah, and you’re nicer than I am, because I’m gonna talk about it first thing tomorrow.
Maybe I will too. I share all of I’m like, I just share all of Larry’s memes because, like, she’s so funny.
It like, drives, that drives me insane. Okay? Like I get, I like, it’s gotten to the point now where I’m gonna talk about traders, because it was the first three episodes. I’m just gonna put something in the first slide that says, don’t look at this. But you still get the assholes that are like, Oh my god, I can’t believe you posted this. Listen, I gave you the warning that you the warning that you guys have all been asking, yes, you do the first slide. I don’t. I can’t do it anymore. Like enough
wait. Speaking of daughters, I had a really embarrassing moment. I’m going to say quickly, and then I want to talk about what Lindsay said on the not skinny, not fat, fat pot, about Dorinda and traders and all that. I was in the wine store last night because I needed a bottle of wine for our zoom call and my daughter,
it was a need, not a lot, and
my husband had a work event, so it was just me and the kids. And because my kids just frequent liquor stores with me and my daughter, I’m like, in like, the section getting my wine, and my daughter shouts, oh my god, mommy, they have the lover boy, the Espresso Martini. Should you get it? I’m like, Oh my God. Not only do I have my young child in a liquor store, but she’s familiar with liquor brands.
Oh my God, that’s hilarious. Yeah, we
can be proud of her for that, too.
Harry, hiring your daughter in a few years, popping in and picking up their lover boy? Oh my god. Okay. So, Larry, you’re familiar, right? Amanda, you saw this? Yes. Do you want to give a little summary for our cocktails if they didn’t see it? And then we have to just shut
and you guys fell in because I did. So Lindsay went on, non skinny, but not fat. The podcast and told the story about what had happened with Dorinda, which is interesting, because when we were listening to it, I’m like, Okay, we heard the story a little bit differently. We can go back to that in a second. But essentially, what she said is that Dorinda was at a party at Marge Joseph’s house, and. I want to say it was around, was it Fourth of July? It was a summer party, and was going around, and she was telling everybody that Lindsay had a miscarriage at this party, which was, first of all, none of our business. We didn’t hear that part. We did not hear that part. We had heard that Dorinda had been going around telling people that Lindsay was pregnant, and that’s why she and then and got her kicked off of traitors.
So Dorin does a cocktail.
And here’s the thing, so Lindsay didn’t exactly say that it got Lindsay, yeah. She didn’t exactly say got her kicked off of traitors. She was like, Is it harder to do it if you’re pregnant, yeah, should I probably not do it if I’m pregnant? Yeah. But who is she to go to production and tell them my business? Like, I’m with her on that. But also, the two things don’t make sense, because if she was at the party saying she had a miscarriage, how is she also at the party saying she shouldn’t do traitors? Pregnant?
I did. I think Lindsay’s and I am going back to like, double check it was the real house size of New Jersey. Season 14 premier party that Margaret Joseph’s had at her house. So season 14 premiered in May. It had to be sometime in May that Margaret had this party, and Lindsay wasn’t even there, but she heard from people that were there that Dorinda was saying this. I Dorinda came out and said that this is that’s not what happened. And she was like, yeah. She was like, surprised. It was, I think it was in like, an US Weekly article or something like that, that she was surprised. It was like, even being brought up again. I’m wondering if, and I could be wrong if Dorinda is just was just confused because Lindsay had a miscarriage in the past. But regardless, like, why is she talking about it? Because Lindsay even said, like, Dorinda wouldn’t even know about any of this, because I don’t talk to Dorinda like that. Like, they
probably know each other from like, appearances. They’ve done events, bravocon, and they’re like, New Yorkers, I have to say, she
said they’ve been cool like that. They’re that. It really surprised her, because she said that she and Jordan have always been totally
cool, because it’s just like the New York, New Jersey Bravo labs, whether they’re like summer house or Real Housewives of Jersey, Real Housewives of New York, they’re like all in the same Unisphere, right? Because they all live here and whatever. So they are all acquainted. I have to say, Larry, I’m doing a re watch of Roni, and right now I’m on season 10, and I’m actually in real time watching dorina, Dorinda, do the slide down the hill. Because in eight, she’s, like, very clear headed and super with it. And yeah, in nine, she’s getting a little loose. Now I’m in 10, and like, it’s when she went to Puerto Rico with Bethany. And, like, basically told Bethany’s like, charity partners, like, oh my god, that was so cringy to watch. Oh my god. Like, you guys aren’t gonna make any change. These people are shit outta luck. And obviously she was under the influence of alcohol. And then the next day, Bethany spoke to her, and she was, like, very honest. She was like, I was doing so five years since Richard died, and I’m like, going backwards, and I just it’s really, actually sad, because I feel like she’s never she’s just stayed, like, uneven. There are times she’s very clear headed, and I love Dorinda and everything, but the alcohol really does influence her personality. And I could see her being at margins and being wasted and just truly like blabbing and not even remembering it like when she’s saying she didn’t say that she might not remember it.
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Yeah, I can see that I love that you’re doing a re watch. Because a couple of weeks that I recently went back and started from season seven, just because it was like such a good season, when all of the ladies were there, we got Carol, Kristen, Dorinda, I feel like I didn’t
appreciate Carol enough. Oh my god. I
always loved Carol, but I always. She was always my favorite, like one of my favorites ever.
She was one of mine too. I really enjoyed her, especially like when her and Bethany were tight. They were watching them
split now, and it’s so horrible about it on the pod last week. I’m so upset by it. I have such a bad memory that it’s not like watching it brand new, but a lot of the nuances, first of all, you view them differently. And I know that I’m gonna get some flack for this, but I remember Tinsley more from, like, the end of her run, where she became more buttoned up and didn’t share as much, but like when she first came on, she was amazing. I feel like she lost it with that loser Scott. Oh yeah, yeah. But also, what I also saw was when Kristen Cavallari announced she was dating a former NFL and then the cocktails discovered it was, I want to say, Nate Thompson. She hasn’t confirmed that. Somebody was like, Yeah, that’s the one that dated Bethany. And so it’s the episode where the guy has no teeth in her kitchen. Yes, coffee players lose their teeth. So I’m like, oh my god, yeah. So I highly recommend it. Next I want to do a Beverly Hills rewind
these. I keep everything in the group. It’s so crazy. All roads really do lead, literally, like it’s they all mix with the same people, like you’re dating people from other react like it’s just wild. Do you know what it is
when you look at the OGS and the cast that were amazing, they’re all stars, and they’re interesting people, and they’re people that other well known people want to be around. Yeah, people could say what they want around about Dorinda, but she’s never
bored me. No, she’s always been so entertaining. I was
so mad she was voted off traders. Were you guys?
Yes, yeah.
It was way too soon as we didn’t even get to see her be Dorinda.
And I think Robin’s having a good showing.
I do too. And I think with traders that they regulate, like, what you drink when you’re in the castle, they’re limited
to your shell. Came on our pot and said they limit
you, yeah, so like, we wouldn’t see her get too crazy, like, sloppy drunk, but we would see her just, I mean, she even said, I’m ready to be a little housewifey, like, we knew she was, like, trying to get in that mode. And we didn’t even get to see it happen. I was ready for it. I thought she was gonna be
great. And there’s all these people I don’t know. I’m like, can you send one of them home? Yeah,
I don’t either. And then I was, I saw an article where Bob the drag queen was, like, every the internet’s so mad that Dorinda got sent home first, he said, but I don’t even know who Dorinda is. Like, I did like, I didn’t know what to expect from her. I’m like, You’re a liar. I’ve like, you don’t know.
First of all, I saw a Twitter post that was spot on, and it said that Bob is like, mimicking Phaedra. Yeah, I can see that I like, I don’t dislike Bob. I loved, oh my god, guys, you saw the meme that somebody said that, who’s the traitor with the blonde hair? That she’s a crack Yeah. It didn’t say cracked out. It said funky or something, but I’m gonna say cracked
out. Yes, Carolyn, I think she’s from survivor.
I have never watched survivor. I
have anywhere I
have so, like, I actually have really loved Boston Rob coming on, because he had
a cute and I went back and saw he’s still married to the woman he met on survivor. They have three or four girls, and he was hot back in his heyday. He was, yeah, I just a Boston accent. Is what it
comes I saw a flashback of him. He was very attractive. Like, back in the day,
I still like, he’s cute, he’s a little bit of a zaddy, like, he’s not cute. He just
looks like a Boston douche bag. To me,
you’re gonna this one because flash, who used to be on the challenge, like, back in the day, long time ago, when I actually watched the show, which everybody in the way, by the way, on the discord says we should be watching it, because that it’s so
good. But I already watched real world challenge that was my original way, before housewives, but
Wes loved it was a blonde. He used to be like, I don’t know why they call him redhead, because he always used with a blonde, and I always found him to be very attractive. So there is a blonde man right there,
proud of you. I went to Joe. Obviously, I like him because I listen. I like a ginger, I like a blonde. Where’s He’s hilarious too, and he’s funny. He’s got, like, a sharp, funny energy, and he’s like, snarky, but without being mean, I never took to Johnny bananas, because I don’t find him cute, even when he was young. I just don’t think he’s cute. But then again, you’re sitting next to see next to CT. But I also find him to be not nice. Wes has a way of delivering where he’s a dick, but he does it in, like, a playful way. Yeah,
I love and he’s self deprecating about himself too. What it is, it’s
that Johnny always took himself so serious and not for anything, for what, yeah, like you are the most made as the kids say, he is such a mid white man, like, I know so many people that are just like him.
I think it was because real world was such, like a phenomenon back then, and people really loved the challenge and real. His season of Key West, though, it really all went to his head.
I had some side scoop. Seasons ago. I never even posted about this. Seasons ago, I want to say Kenny. It was Kenny or another one in their crew, but maybe it was Kenny, since we never see him, there were like, allegations made by a female member of the challenge, and I don’t remember exactly which one and some of the guys were loosely involved, but it all got pinned, and I want to say Kenny, and that person was like, out there never to be seen again, a la, like Luke. And I want to say it’s Kenny. It may be somebody else, but then why wouldn’t we see Kenny? And it’s very disappointing, because Kenny was hot. I don’t
remember who Kenny is. Oh, my. Google him.
You know who he looks like. He looks like, Joe Bradley, but cuter,
really? Oh, okay,
hold on, I’m googling it. Kenny the challenge. I
gotta get back to the challenge, because my girlfriend, I do
not remember him, yeah, I have no idea. Google him right now. He’s a better looking Joe Bradley. All right,
I’m googling, I’m literally googling it too. Kenny santochi Santucci, just right? Kenny, the challenge. Oh, wow, yeah, he is very handsome. Doesn’t he have Joe Bradley vibe? He really does. Yeah.
Oh no, it wasn’t, I think it was Evan and Kenny. So Evan and Kenny, so there’s a picture of Evan and Kenny. They both basically took the fall for whatever went down.
Ooh, yeah, something happened.
Yeah, interesting. Evan was cute too, yeah. But like, somehow Johnny bananas linked out of that one. Maybe he wasn’t involved. I don’t know. I
only have so much room in my head for bad reality TV, and I swear to God, I’m so good at finding it. When left to my own devices, my husband was out last night, and I have now started, I’m already, like, two episodes into the ultimatum on Netflix.
Oh, I watched the first season of that. So did I it?
I think I guess it was the second season I didn’t know about, and then I just started watching season three. So it just popped up in my feed. But God, I just love bad, good reality TV. Dating, flat, it’s it. Marriage, I love. Love is blind, too. I’m like, I would love to watch some of these other shows, the challenge and stuff. But I’m like, I’ve got to watch my other bad reality TV first? Yeah,
I used to be big into the challenge, because my girlfriend, Nonny, was on the real world. She’s from Buffalo, and now she does the chance. She’s done so many of the challenges. So we would always do watch parties. I would be so invested in it. And then I just fell off, like, when she stopped doing it, but she’s on the latest one, so I’m like, maybe I’ll get back into it, because it really is so good. But then they started mixing people in from, like, other reality shows. And I don’t watch every reality show, so I wouldn’t know who all of them are. But I guess I could say the same about traders, because I don’t watch Survivor Big Brothers, so I don’t know who any of those people are, right? You’re gonna have to get back into
it, you know? Yeah, do you know what I loved, which they haven’t come out within a couple years? Because the first okay, it was out years ago. Like, I think we were kids Temptation Island, with the couples that were dating for over a year. So like, yeah, two years, three years went there, stayed in a house with all the girls, and then the guys all stayed, and then singles went in. Oh, my God, it was the best. Yeah, they brought it back a few years ago. And I feel like the first season was real couples and the second season, but then, like, by the third one, it seems like it was people just trying to be on reality, and their like relationships didn’t seem legit, but that’s a good show.
Yeah, I agree. Oh my god.
I know we got off track a little bit from traders, but my girlfriend went to a wedding over the summer, and it was in the traders castle. How cool is that? Stop it? Yeah, I was dying. She was like, telling me about it, and she’s Larry. Have you ever watched the traders on peacock? And I was like, I’m obsessed. And she goes, I’m at a wedding, and I’m in the castle. They filmed it. And I go, shut the fuck up. Oh
my god, did she go in the secret
room, like, through the book? Literally, they, like, they had, they worked all over that castle, I guess. But I thought that was cool. That was just like, in August, I think, like, it was after they were done filming, like, the most recent season.
That would be such a fun Bravo and cocktails get away. Oh, it’s all of us to go to that castle. You know how they
needed the cart trip was to do a Bravo and cocktails trip.
I love it. I love it. Okay, let’s move on to Beverly Hills. We had quite the episode this week. So last episode, we ended at the Viper Room. This episode, we picked back up at the Viper Room, where the fight between Kyle and dorit is still continuing. Dorit has asked Kyle if she texts with PK. Kyle admits that she does, but then, in my opinion, I’m gonna say gaslights Dorit, and really, pretty much everybody else the table by saying it’s no big deal. And I think we can all agree here, and probably everybody listening to this podcast that. It. If anybody had been found to be texting with Mauricio, Kyle would lose her mind. Yeah. Wouldn’t you guys agree? Yeah, 100% so later in the episode at Chucky Cheese, which talk about a sentence I never, ever thought I would use on this podcast, Kyle then exposes herself by reading out loud the text to Sutton, garcella and Erica, the text that she had sent to pk, which was somebody pointed this out, that it was a screenshot of the text, so she didn’t even pull up the actual text, which seems suspicious to me. The text says, I know you have a lot of friends, and I am also one, and I’m here if you need me. I have never repeated anything you have shared with me, and never would, meaning you can trust me always.
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I wish Kyle would just say out loud that she does not like to read. I feel like that was just like make it, would make our lives so much easier. Just say you do not like her and want you do not want to be her friend.
How Sutton and Garcelle basically do exactly,
literally. Yes, it’s been, she’s been a little flip floppy already in the beginning of the season with Therese. I don’t, who knows? So weird. So weird.
I think we said this last week, Tracy and I, there is a point with Sutton where you see the switch like Dorinda, and it’s like she becomes a different person with the drinking.
So somebody said it, maybe it was I watched the after show too. So now sometimes things so the after show and the regular show, but somebody essentially said, there’s a lot of things that people will say to each other when people are going through a divorce, and essentially they’re like, sudden. Should have really just left it as, I’m here for you if you need me, instead of saying I’ll sit in the room with those are all things that are really a good you don’t really want to hear that from somebody who is not a close friend and that you don’t trust. It definitely does. I’m starting to see a little bit more, because I really took Sutton at her word at first. So like, why is dorit being so mean to her? She just offered all this support. But I’m starting to see a little bit more from dorit standpoint, where it’s. Like you’re going through literally, life changing, world ending essentially, moment in your life, and it’s gonna ring really hollow when somebody who has been a jerk to you comes and says things like that, I’ll come and sit in the room with you, and it does feel ambulance chasery And a little just disingenuous. So I My question for you guys, do you think Kyle always didn’t like jury, or do you think it was really because of the things that have happened in the recent past, like the whole Kathy thing, the whole the things that that Kyle brings up. Watch what happens is, you think that’s what made her not like dorit. I
think that Kyle treated dorit as a friend of convenience, because Dorit, more or less took her back with the Lisa Vanderpump situation. And I don’t think that Kyle valued her, but I don’t think she disliked
her. I thought they were great. In the beginning, we would always drink and have fun together too. Yeah, you would always see PK and Mauricio and dorit and Kyle film together, like when they would do little double dates as couples. But then, like, now we find out that they were never really friends and that they’ve only hung out like, a handful of times. It just it didn’t make sense from what we saw. And then I speak the Kathy, yeah. And then I think the Kathy thing is what really tipped Kyle over and made her dislike her. And I really, I just think she does not care for her.
Something we learned this week. It wasn’t just the Kathy thing. Okay, Larry, I don’t know if I ever asked your opinion, but the dorit and Mauricio rumor, yeah, so when Kyle was on the bed with Boz, because that’s exactly what Bose, excuse me, that’s exactly what Bose wanted to do after surgery, was Kyle just being defensive. Oh, you think it’s bad that I was texting? Do you know about this rumor that was going around, and what did she do to stop that? Or it seemed like Kyle was legitimately upset about the rumor. I personally always felt the rumors were complete and utter bullshit. Yeah, and knowing how Kyle lies, as Sutton pointed out, when she said, You’ve had infidelities, and Kyle looked at her like she had just told her that she grew a third leg. Like, yeah, you know what I’m
saying. Yeah, no, I totally get what you’re saying, I truly
bothered Kyle. And I think it did not necessarily that she believed it, but and not even that it was dorits fault, but just didn’t like because she doesn’t like any tarnish on her marriage, even though now they’re split, she doesn’t want to talk about the infidelity. So it’s almost like she didn’t like that dorit was associated with this rumor.
I think that, I think that I didn’t believe any of it at for I like, I still don’t believe anything happened between Mauricio and Dorit, but I think maybe it made Kyle second guess everything, if she learned about infidelity with other people throughout the marriage, that she could see how the Internet maybe spun that hand on Mauricio is back, and she and I don’t listen. I I couldn’t
fly that Kyle knows or thinks dorit has cheated on PK, though
it could, yeah, but we haven’t. That’s never come out, so I have no idea. But
no, I don’t, but it’s weird, like during the rumor, or maybe Kyle knew that dorit and PK were separated for a long time, it just wasn’t being discussed. So maybe Kyle thinks who knows when her and PK weren’t together, and her Mauricio weren’t together, because that shit was all going down before the public knew. So maybe she feels like there was a window of time where they could have had a fling.
It’s not like out of the realm of
possibility, like Kyle thinks enough of it that she carries a screenshot of that picture around on her phone.
Also, did she like, does she just look for that screenshot on her way to Bose his house? No, she’s had it on her phone. It’s weird that she brought it up to Bose, because she knows that Dorie and Bose are close. So is she trying to get negative thoughts in her head about degree, like, Kyle’s really, like, grasping at straws this season already. It could, because, one, we all know that she is pretty much untouchable, and the fact that someone is standing up to her as much as Deri is this season, I don’t think it’s happened in so long. So she’s She probably doesn’t know what the fuck to do.
Also feels Lisa Vander pump with it was a worthy opponent. And it’s so obvious in the way that she says, like, at Chucky Cheese, if she feels that, or she says that, I will never attempt to repair anything with her. Yeah, it’s so obvious that she’s like, doresa, nobody during doesn’t come from. She’s not related to Richard sister, like I’m from LA I’m from Hollywood. That bitch is from Connecticut and has a fake accent, and she doesn’t even deserve to be sitting at a table with me. Never mind now she thinks she’s gonna come for me, an
absolute insane way to think. And it makes me like, look at Kyle so differently, because I’ve always been a contraband me, and I. I’m not liking her this season,
this whole season where all it’s everybody, yeah, she got called out. I think it started with dorit calling her out at the reunion for sending that long text, and then sharing the text and being like, this is so manipulative, yes, and
everything since then has been a similar vibe, right? Giving hazards of bro vibes to a certain degree. We always knew she was fancy pants, but then we saw this, like how she was with Katie Janelle. Who the fuck are you coming at me? You’re not even worthy to be at my table, and that’s what I’m getting from Kyle. We always knew that Kyle was real Hollywood and everything, right? We didn’t know just
how. Yeah, it’s crazy. And I don’t I can see Kyle fuming as this stuff is airing because she of the edit that she’s getting. It is I can see her being so pissed off that will it make her not want to come back next season because of the way that everything is already playing out. It’s just, it’s crazy.
My source always says Kyle makes about she is our believers for the season, and like she’s not going to walk away from that. But who knows? Because, I mean, she is wealthy, although I don’t know all this freaking stuff with the agency. So just to clarify, because we posted about how in LA and California surrounding areas listings, people are posting listings from Zillow and whatever of homes that were, let’s say, $10,000 a month in rent, after the fires were bumped up to $15,000 in rent. Oh, that is not cool. Not cool. Of course. Guess who else? It wasn’t just the agency, Mike, so he’d from Shaw, is that piece of shit?
Oh, I saw his post. He is such a scumbag.
First of all, who would ever go to him for any right? I would rather not have a house right?
Like take advantage of people, especially in a time like this, is just That’s disgusting.
So what followers said to me, though, is there they said that I thought I copied it, but I don’t think I did. They said, To sum it up, they said that it’s not the realtor’s responsibility. The homeowner sets the price. But I countered that with, guess what? They’re gonna lose the listing, but they’re still saying, Okay, I’ll represent you. So if I’m in the homeowner, and Larry is my realest realtor, and my house was for five, and I put it to 10, sure, that’s my prerogative, but Larry could say to me, You know what? This is unethical, so I’m going to remove myself from this listing. Yeah. And then the person was like, I would imagine the person’s a realtor, and certainly I understand the sentiment, because we’re talking about the agency where you don’t need to do that. You are so popular and you’re so wealthy that you should do the ethical thing. But let’s say you’re somebody like Gina Kirsch, whatever, yeah, however you say that name from the OC who this is her living. This is how she makes a living. And she’s not rich and wealthy and well known. You’re just a regular person. And so somebody does that with your listing, and now you’ve invested money to advertise, market, your time, to show it and so to just give it up, you’re like losing your own it’s your salary. Yeah. Cheapoair.com cheapoair.com
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I think in this case, I would take a pretty strong stand with my clients and just say, Look, if this is something you want to do, that’s fine, but I can’t be a part of this one with you,
right? Yeah, post it on your own. Agency doesn’t need to do that. Yeah,
I it’s price gouging. Is, first of all, it is illegal, but it’s just unconscionable, given the sheer amount of people who have lost their homes to then take advantage of that is is so not a lot of people say this is when the real crooks come out. Is after something like there was a word for it after the Civil War in the south, called carpet bagging, right where people come in and charge way too much for whatever supplies. And that’s essentially what’s happening. And we’re starting to see it already. It’s, and people
are saying, like, what if investors come in and buy up all the land? It’s like, it’s, so I think that’s what happened in Maui, right? It
did. It’s, yeah, I gotta tell you, it would be really hard. I think. To completely rebuild, knowing again, that there’s a chance
that they could have. Are they better? Yeah,
but I have to say something. And again, I’m not saying this in the political way. I’m not speaking about any political party, but something that we can all agree on is we pay a shit ton of taxes, right, right? And certainly people in California do, and certainly people with these large properties and estates, and I saw on Instagram that there’s a small town in Japan random that the second there’s a fire. I don’t know if they’re I don’t know if they’re susceptible to fires or whatever they have, like sprinkler systems throughout the town. So the second there’s they all go off, like, with all the money that we pay people their pay. If you live in these areas, why are the tax dollars not going to stuff like that
and as it should, and that’s something if people want to profit off of this strategy, like an actual legit way to do that is come up with ways to help prevent this from happening again, people will pay, in a lot of cases, any amount of money to prevent that. So focus your energy there. Don’t take advantage of people who are just literally trying to find a roof over their head, and look at having to pay 30 to 50% but also, like, have them
tax dollars in FEMA and stuff. Should like, I know, in New York, after Sandy, a lot of the towns on the water that were affected the FEMA funds, not for everybody. And of course, there was a lot of a lot of people got screwed. But for many people, they rose there. They like, lifted the house up, right? So that, God forbid, the next time there’s a storm, the house is like, way above level. And yeah, these are things we need to do because we’re not making any more land. And yeah, you need places to live in New York. You need places to live in California. So we have to figure something out. And who better to do it than the three of us? Because
clearly, this is where we’ll shine.
I don’t even fucking know where my lawn sprinkler system is, there in my basement.
So true. Oh, my God, I It’s also, I feel like a lot of it is just starts from, like, brush fires. You know what I mean? And this is, there’s so much, like, vacant wooded land that, like, where would you put it? You know what I mean? Like, it’s, I think that’s where think that’s where it starts. And it just the winds take it to, yeah, the homes and the people are screwed. They don’t have any, like, fire insurance. Like, they’re like, What I it’s just, it’s absolutely insane. But why? What do I know? I’m literally sitting in the middle of a snowstorm
right now. Oh, it’s snowing in below. Yeah, you guys, we don’t get it right? I heard that there. It’s going to be so cold next week that there is talk that the mayor may close down schools for cold. And I’m like, Oh, they do that here. I’ve lived here all my live long. That’s never happened. You know what it is to post COVID Like everybody’s got the Google classrooms and stuff. So I’m interested to see but and the thing about it is it’s like, you see, people get political, and nobody wants to after losing their home, like, right, that shit. And my thing is this sprinkler system that I invented my brilliant mind, nobody has done it, not a Democrat, not a Republican. So like these, people could blame the guy in office now, they could blame the prior administration. All I know is there have been homes there for hundreds of years, and why has nobody done this? Yeah,
I agree. It’s a it could be a public work, that utility, essentially, that’s fully reimagined.
I like when I have a swimming pool, and when I put my swimming pool in, like the laws of the city said that I had to put these big drains in the ground. I think they’re called drums, right? So, I don’t know, maybe, especially the wealthy people, right? You’re building your house. Why is it not that in order to be to code, you have to put a sprinkler system under the ground that automatically activates. It just seems like there’s some sort of corruption. And I don’t know the details, because, again, I am not a politician. I just play on my gear. I’m just confused. I
just there’s so much code for building for earthquakes, there should be,
right, like in Florida, like my condo in Florida after a hurricane that I think was, I want to say, oh, five with my parents condo. They had to pay an assessment and had to get Windows and the bars on that, not the bars, yeah, exactly all that stuff to be up to code, which it’s like, of course, it’s a huge expense and it’s a pain, but okay, what do you want?
We’re gonna have to figure something out now, because there are whole neighborhoods and communities that have been demolished. So in order to rebuild that they’re gonna have, I would hope that they would take situations like this into consideration. And who better a person to lead that pack than Spencer Pratt?
Oh, my God. How amazing is this for us millennials, US elder millennials, guys, the Spencer Pratt. Listen, of course, we all thought he was such a little. Jerk when he was on the hills, the Laguna Beach, whatever. But since, first of all, how about the fact that him and Heidi are married all these
years? Yeah? Like they’ve been together for, what, 15 years already
amazing. Yeah. And then I hear him on Heather McDonald’s podcast, which led to me following him on socials. He is, like, whoever thought he would be rational and like, normal, yeah? And he
is, I love it, because he’s got, like, a little bit of brand of conspiracy theorist too. Like, a lot of the things that he says are, I think are really interesting, yeah. But and he always, is, always family first, which I love
everybody and their brother has posted Heidi song. Oh, my God, everywhere. It’s everywhere. Glaring exception of who guys?
Oh, Lauren, I don’t even think she has tick tock. I wouldn’t even expect it
from her because she did that. Does she still have that basic bitch clothing line in Kohl’s?
Listen, don’t come from my queen. I was a ride or die. Lauren Conrad, she she dies. Listen,
sides. But if I had it, if I had to pick, I think I’m more, especially at that point in my life, I was much more Kristen Cavallari, though, just like on a personal
level, I mean, she still does her husband is like a guitar, a guitarist of a band, and then she has her clothing line, and she does that little market stuff. She used to have a podcast, but they haven’t done it in a couple years. It came out like in the beginning of COVID, but it was nothing talking about, like her fame or anything like that. She talks about, she talks like women in business and stuff like that. But I wouldn’t expect her to sparse anything like in regards variety.
I don’t know if she reposted it, and I should check that, but Lo Bosworth has a supplement company love wellness, which, yeah, yeah, really great. I use their melatonin. I use their bye bye bloat.
She lives in New York now. Yeah, she’s been there for a while.
Yeah, she’s like a New Yorker. And this is so random, but my cousins, a girl my cousin went to elementary school with, who, for some reason I’m friends with on Facebook. I’m sure you guys have those people that, yeah, yeah. I legitimately haven’t seen this girl, probably since my cousin’s seventh grade birthday party, but I know everything about her because, yeah, Facebook friends, and she’s like, the Chief Marketing Officer of love wellness. No way, yes. And I almost messaged her like, oh my god, that’s so cool. And then I was like, I wonder if she knows who I am. She follows me too, because it’s Facebook. But
hey, get a deal.
You’re staying for cocktail because we didn’t do Can you stay for cocktail?
Yes, I can. I have about 20 minutes left.
That’s all we need. Okay, Salt Lake City and Roni we have. Yes, we love you guys, and I just feel like this was very all over the place. What else is new?
I love the cocktails. No, it was, but it was fun. I listen. I can talk to you guys about literally anything. We were all over the board. People all over
we love all the world’s problems together. I love it.
I mean, look at this where we just saved California. You did, yeah, I’m kidding. God, that’s a terrible thing. I wish cop that from anyone knows that, if anyone knows anyone who’s important, tell them my idea. It’s actually Japan’s idea. But I’m just saying,
love it. Thanks, guys.