75. Are we being epically trolled? RHONJ and RHONY crossover? Southern Sexting

We continue to have whiplash when it comes to the Maurico and Kyle separation. This week, we see Mauricio’s mom post a picture of herself, her ex husband (Mau’s dad), Mau, and a dark haired woman who is rumored to be Mauricio’s love interest. We can’t help but wonder – with all of this press, all of the paparazzi pictures, all of the social media posts and statements, is this all just an epic, intricate, and blatant trolling situation? We’ve got an email about THAT Vanderpump Rules video. What does Juicy Joe think about his girls starring in Shein’s holiday video? RHONJ is still filming, and has us saying, “What are you doing here without Dorinda?” based on some behind the scenes tea…Cocktailers are not shocked to hear about Taylor sending nude pics to Whitney, because we knew about their hookup earlier this year. Plus, a PSA about the dangers of sexting….

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What’s up cup Taylor’s and Amanda Hi Kok Taylor’s how Hi Fi how are you? I mean, so before we just hopped on we are laughing because I feel like B cannot get away from construction these days. She’s
over you’re at your dad’s house right now. Because your house there’s workers that are doing stuff in your basement or your guests are yes because we had anyone who lives in New York knows that there was a crazy rainstorm and apparently I don’t know the way my bricks are pointed don’t ask. So we had to like remove sheetrock and so the constructions back so I had to come to my dad’s condo and I don’t know these people must be building some quite the condo upstairs because it’s been going on since the summer. You’re gonna have to go knock on their door and be like I’m dying.
Right? I can’t i Bye guys. I wish you could see Amanda’s hair right now she has it looks like she’s auditioning for Dallas. Oh my god.
I was all like it was like I did it yesterday and then I had it in a ponytail all day today because like after working out and then I just put it down because of like so it fit my like headphones or whatever. But I will take any compliment that you want to give me so thank you and I will take the Dallas hair that’s like a little like a little volume and I would go to dry bar you know how have you ever do they have dry barber you probably right? Yeah. You know how they have that menu.
I would always pick I forget if it was called the Dallas the SOT southern yes southern I’m like Bali. Yeah. So like, give me the south give me as much volume as you could put my limp hair. I’m 100% there too, because I mean, you can’t go wrong like as they say in the south, the higher the hair the closer to man. Amen. Okay, so we have been epically trolled by Mauricio and Kyle since July for the latest updates in this epic trolling is demery CEO postings or was it his mother that posted on social media pictures of them going out to eat after dancing with the stars with his mom has dad who are divorced and then this woman who is sitting next to Mauricio and he has his arm, like on her shoulder kind of like leaning out towards the king.
Camera. Yes, it was his Mama’s cell, right? Yeah, salah or whatever, who posted it? Okay. So when we looked into who this woman was, we learned that she is a like a real estate agent who works for Marie ACOs agency the agency, but that she is also an actress when somebody dug in and found like a lot of big or a lot of roles and bigger movies and shows she played Tony Soprano’s girlfriend Valentina on The Sopranos. And if you look at her instance, she has like a lot of pictures of her with like a list celebrities, she’s been in a lot of television shows and small roles. So it’s looking like okay, she went to see him on Dancing with the Stars, and now they’re out to eat and her arms around him. So we see that picture. The next day, we wake up to reports that she’s dating, Mauricio is dad. However, Amanda, one quick glimpse of Maria’s father’s Instagram shows us that his father is in a long term relationship with a another realtor from a research agency, him Maria’s father and his actual girlfriend have a picture posted, which was posted two or three days prior to the reports that the dad is dating Lesley Baga is the actress Realtors name. So I looked into it, she’s about 56. So actually, I think a couple years older than definitely older than Kyle and maybe the same age or a year or two older than Mauricio. So age appropriate. She, which I mean, listen, I shouldn’t even say that it’s fine. If he’s with a younger person, I actually kind of assumed he would be with a younger person, but beautiful woman. similar look to Kyle, long, straight dark hair. Very pretty. There’s a lot of pictures of her doing yoga and actually splits all over her Instagram account. So flexible lifestyle, do.
I mean, when you have a type, you have a type, you have a type, you have a type, he’s just gonna say that, like, I’m kinda like thinking like, and this is a question I could ask you, like, Do you have a type? Like, I’m thinking to myself, it’d be so interesting. Not obviously, I hope my husband and I stay together forever. But if we did it, like, would he go for a girl who looked like me? And how like, pissed off? Would I be if he went with somebody who was like, totally different looking than me? Yeah, no, I definitely have a type. It’s like certain certain things like and I think we’ve talked about this like I which is why you and I would have been great wingman back in the day for each other because you like the lighter hair guys. And so you like the Mad demons? I like the better. Yes, we have darker hair, guys. Yes. So listen, I’m not throwing my bed Affleck out of my bed. Maybe now I would say a little long in the tooth and like my man, a little Jaeger. And the smoke, the smoking. I can’t. I can’t with that. The cigarette breath would would not be fun. But there was a picture of him looking really good recently, but I digress. Okay, so here’s this girl looking a hell of a lot like his wife. Do I think they’re dating? Amanda? Yeah, I do. I think him and Kyle are really split. And I think this is somebody who said, I do wonder though. Why did Mauricio bring her.
And then the next day, obviously, this report didn’t come from nowhere. So somebody commented, oh, no, that’s my dad’s girlfriend. Did he not realize I mean, this is he’s been in the public eye for many years. We’ve all been following every word out of their mouths, him and Kyle very closely. He didn’t think we would all jump on this. Like, you know what I’m saying? Like, of course, he knew. So I was thinking about this too, because there’s no accidents here. And I was thinking about just like a day in the life of if you are on Bravo and you’re or you’re in the family of somebody who is on a reality show. You say to them, before you ever post any pictures with me, I got to approve it. I mean, a lot of people just in normal life say that. But especially people in reality TV, so it’s not like a Stella was like, Oh, oops, I accidentally posted this sorry, Marie, CL like Maria, Zo new. So that’s where I am. That’s why I’ve been calling this like epic troll because it’s, you know, literally one day, Maria comes out and says, she’s not cheating on me. We’re not getting divorced. And then the next day, they come out and they say, Oh, yes, we’re getting separated. And then, you know, Kyle is at Dancing with the Stars one week and then
She’s not there the next week and that’s the week that Leslie the
we think could be girlfriend is there and goes out to dinner with his family. Wait, I have a question because I just thought of something. What could it be? That mom is angry with? Kyle is angry with all the reports of her with Morgan, whether it is or isn’t true. And posted that picture without telling Mauricio and then Marissa was like, What the fuck? Oh my God, what do I do? Every blog has picked up this picture. So the only thing you could think of was just be like, Oh, no, no, that’s my dad’s girlfriend.
I mean, that could be or at this point, they’re all just sitting behind, you know, their computers and looking at website hits go up for the agency.com I don’t even know if that’s the right URL. And they’re just watching all of the inquiries and the press call. And I mean, because they’ve been we know they’ve been calling the paparazzi the paparazzi don’t just hang out in LA anymore. You have to be I mean, even in LA, a lot of places, you still have to call them Kyle just had that picture of her with Morgan Wade leaving lax where they looked like they were dressed the same. You know, like the trucker hat. Yeah, like waning era t shirt bunch of
memes. Yeah. Party on Kyle.
I love that movie, by the way, as a child, I did too. I gotta watch that movie again. It’s so funny. I just like if she’s picking Margot up, she could do it in her blacked out Range Rover where nobody could see literally pick her up and go. But no, like, she gets out, walks out, picks her up. Like it’s just now I’m just trying to figure out what is the endgame here, you know, other than getting attention for the upcoming season. What is really happening? Well, we got this email. Okay, so right ahead of Lesley joining his parents for Dancing with the Stars, this email came. And I sort of held off on posting it because I we didn’t have any context. Right. And then the picture was posted. So would you like to read it? I will. Okay, subject the real deal.
Everyone was so surprised when they quote unquote, separated, but dot dot dot. All the smoke and mirrors and silly rumors were just that he connected or should I say reconnected with a woman. They have both known for years. She’s age appropriate. He didn’t run off with some young up and comer, which I imagine hurts more. They have a lot in common religion, languages. It hasn’t been easy for his wife, that’s for sure. So when I saw the picture, I immediately thought of this email. And that’s what I went to her Wikipedia. And I saw that Lesley is a Sephardic Jew. I believe her one of her parents is from Spain. So she’s Jewish and fluent in Spanish, which is in common with Marisa is of Mexican descent, but he is Jewish and Spanish. So I found that very interesting. Yes, so totally agree. So then we also received very hurt. This housewife is very hurt the public posting of his new relationship after him publicly declaring they weren’t throwing in the towel is incredibly upsetting. Her mother in law posting about his new interest and how wonderful it is to spend time with her left her seething. And then we quickly debunked it being the dad’s girlfriend, because unless he broke up with his long term girlfriend the day before, and somehow got together with Lesley Baga. And within 24 hours, they were a serious enough item that she’s going to dancing with this. It’s it’s not possible.
Yeah. So is it? And again, we don’t know the timeline. Yeah. Well, I mean, so once I saw that email come in, I was like, what is I had to look up what Sephardic meant, and it’s S E p h, ar, DIC. Anybody else wants to kind of look it up because I’m always very interested in religion. And what it means it’s the term is Sephardic Jew. It’s communities of Jewish people from the Iberian Peninsula, which is where Spain and Portugal are. So it obviously a knowing now what you said about her having one parent from Spain, it makes sense that she speaks Spanish. Yes. So kind of back to where we were what we were talking about this epic troll thing, like, what if they are staying married because of some of the court cases that we are hearing may be coming up that are associated with him?
Because yeah, like we mentioned before. Yeah. And like I just keep wondering, like, if now they’re in this, like pissing match to us to see kind of who can be the most outrageous in public with their new people, right. But they’re staying married because, you know, they have some sort of arrangement. I just, you know if it’s this confusing us like, imagine how like their daughter Portia feels she is she’s still a minor. I think she’s maybe 16. Yeah, she’s high school age still lives with them. The thing about it for me is his public statement just like a week ago saying we’re separated, but we’re not throwing in the towel. And yet, then he’s out to dinner with this woman publicly, which is why I mean, it could just be that they’re trolling. I just feel like I don’t think Kyle is following her mother in law on social media, only her father in law. So like, I feel for some reason. And just during the course of our conversation, because sometimes when we talk about this, it kind of like, makes me have theories. I feel like somehow his mother threw a wrench in it. Like, did we see Lesley Baga? Was there a close up of her with Mauricio at Dancing with the Stars? I don’t think so. It was just that dinner picture. So it’s the sort of thing where now we all know, and I’m remembering the trailer for Beverly Hills and how upset Kyle is and I’m thinking to myself, could it be that
she was upset about this woman whether they were together yet or not?
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you know what I’m saying? She’s working for his agency, all this kind of stuff like I don’t know, I just in my mind when I’m thinking that Mauricio did something and then this whole Morgan thing, whether there’s any truth to it more than a friendship or not, was sort of a distraction, to save face for Mauricio to not hurt his business too much. And also, I think, maybe Kyle didn’t want to be seen as somebody who was left for somebody else. If that’s the case, this is just a theory.
You know, it’s one thing to be seen out for dinner with another woman. It’s a whole other thing to be seen out with another woman and both of your divorce parents seems like it’s intimate. It seems like it’s something that’s been a thing. And clearly if it has been a thing, which is
why is this girl okay, we know she is not dating the Father. So why is his coworker with him at dinner? They’re dating. Okay. The parents are with her so obviously they’re dating a while. So it’s almost like Kyle did this outrageous in your face?
thing to distract from that? I don’t I don’t know. I can’t help but think Kyle is acting out. Yes, on purpose. And there is some reason that they are staying married, whether it’s money, whether it’s court case, whether it’s whatever it is, whether they’re waiting until Portia is out of the house, to officially go forward with it. But Kyle, I think is fed up and is like, neener, neener, neener. You know, like, I’m gonna do whatever the FBI wants. And I’m gonna do it publicly because I’m tired of it. So that’s kind of where, where I am. And I think they’re using the press and using, you know, podcasts like us as their tools to get back at each other. But this is just that could be I have no founding for this theory. This is just my theory could also be that they’re separated. And after Kyle’s been out with Morgan, he got together with Lesley. I don’t. My gut tells me that his situation came first. But that’s just I don’t know my gut. Yeah. We don’t know. This is not like suddenly. Something about that trailer. leads me to believe that.
Hmm, interesting.
Okay, so what about so we heard Rachel from Vanderpump Rules pop up back into the news because she is selling that infamous tom toms sweatshirt that she wore with no pants to Bravo. Not that one because she gave that one to Andy. So this girl has more than one TomTom sweatshirt. Okay, so one of the TomTom sweatshirts she worked with no pants, and the lightning bolt necklace, which I noticed in her post said it has a slight scratch but that you can’t see it in the light. She’s selling it for charity for an AMI, which is the National Alliance on Mental Illness, which is the largest grassroots mental health organization in the nation, dedicated to building better lives for the millions of Americans affected by mental health. A good deed for sure. I’m shocked. Last I heard because people keep updating me my DMs it’s like 8000 and change for the sweatshirt. Good deed for sure. And great, great amount of money, certainly to go to the charity for mental illness. Who is spending this on this sweatshirt? Like maybe it’s aunt No, it’s not Andy, but maybe it’s you know, maybe it’s Heather McDonald or somebody else who? I don’t know. I don’t know. But you know, if the money maybe it’s just a rich person who’s like, Oh, that would be fun to have, because it goes to charity. Who knows? And then of course, as this coming out, we get the email.
Yes. Okay. I will read it from Vanderpump Rules subject the tape.
The email says, I’m not a Sandoval fan at all. Hashtag team Ariana. However, the rumors about the video being taken without permission, are completely wrong. I know some of the cast. And from what I’ve heard the Queen herself, which I would take to mean Ariana, the queen or Lisa. I don’t know. Anyway, I’m speculating. The Queen herself has stated that from what she saw in the video, there’s actually evidence that he didn’t take it without permission. Do people really think the likes of Lala and Sheena wouldn’t jump on his ass if they thought he’d done what He’s accused of the false narrative needs to end it’s gross and insulting to those who have suffered from this. I mean, so my argument to that is, wouldn’t he have come out and said, I had kids, you know what I? Like? Wouldn’t he have come out and said I had concern?
Alright, yeah, I mean, or maybe he just like, there was never really our show beyond. Yeah, like, yeah, that was just kind of skipped over by everybody. I just find it. Listen, I would hope that she wouldn’t lie about that, because that is illegal. It’s a huge violation. But her parents were pretty savvy and litigious in other ways. So I just wonder why they wouldn’t have gone after him or encouraged her to Yeah, I agree. I don’t know. I guess let me just bring this back around to the conversations that I’m starting to have
With my kid who has a phone like, this should never goes away guys, like anything you do on your phone, on a computer, and you’re commenting on somebody’s social like it never goes away. It is a tattoo. This is why like, people just be more savvy. And like, let’s take this as a lesson that yet yes, even though there are legal protections, you know, in place to help people who have been victimized as part of what’s it called the revenge porn. Once it’s done, it’s done. So don’t do it. Don’t Don’t show your naked body on your cell phone. Right peeps? What’s unless you’re getting well paid for it like Denise Richards does? Yes.
Okay, this is the thing. Yes, it’s a good deed. She’s donating to a charity. I wonder she had said she’s done with reality television. She mentioned she was going to do a podcast. We haven’t heard a word about that. It’s a couple of months, right? Yeah, he’s come out with a podcast, which, who I can understand maybe out of morbid interest, listening maybe to the first one, but who’s listening to his podcast? Well, God bless Larry at Bravo by gays. Because he listened to the first episode or so to report back to the rest of us. And he’s doing the Lord’s work. Yeah, I didn’t listen. I read. I read some, like, I saw some clips or whatever. But I’m not interested. I’d be more inclined to listen to hers initially, just to see what she would say about it. But I don’t know. I’m interested to see if she’s going to fade into obscurity, because this is a good deed. Right. So we can’t be like, Oh, here she is getting attention again. Because she’s raising money for a great charity. Great organization. So I won’t say that. I will say
let’s see if she keeps popping up. Yeah, I agree. Okay, so Jersey has been kind of popping off this week. We first see that the God che Teresa and her girls did a partnership with is it sheen or shine? I think it’s Shane sheen. Sh E is his shin. I don’t know. I don’t know. I’ve never I’ve never bought anything from their shoes. Yeah, Sheen. Anyway, that has it’s known as a fast fashion brand. We’ll talk a little bit more about that. But it’s causing a lot of backlash for quite a few reasons. First of all, people people are angered because Sheen is shine whatever is apparently a very unethical brand that allegedly uses child labor and also allegedly forced labor aka slavery, of course, because I had to look into this to find out more two members of US Congress had have written a letter asking sheen to certify that its products are not made using forced labor. And by the way, I’m going to sound all Shannon Midori here, but the clothes are also known to be pretty low quality and have a very high lead count. And we know lead is is very, very toxic to people. The other reason people are talking about this and all up in arms is because of the way the girls are dressed. very skimpy clothes, party situation champagne, and the youngest adrionna is only 14. Well, I have ordered from Shane, which I’m disgusted about i Okay, I know it’s a cheap brand, and I probably should have used my head. But how frightening that there’s lead in their clothing. I had no idea. The prices are incredible. I ordered one year like when we were going on vacation. I got a couple of like beach cover ups for cheap and a couple things for my daughter which now makes me very worried. It’s crappy quality, which is why I haven’t ordered since but
just thinking about it makes me
nervous. Yeah, we discussed it disgusted, seeing Audrianna in the ad as they’re popping champagne. felt wrong. She’s a young girl, obviously for 1314 15. We also received an email saying juicy Joe is pissed. And they noticed how he’s been silent on social media. I didn’t look you know the last couple of days but I always see his posts and I haven’t. Now we know what a proud dad he is. So
To me, it’s surprising that he didn’t repost their partnership. So if we don’t see him repost the partnership, we have to assume that he’s not happy about it. Right? I mean, because he has he has such a proud dad and tons to talk about and promote of what the girls are doing and Theresa is doing so. It his silence is is very noticeable in this situation. Totally. And
I wonder who’s driving who’s steering this ship, Amanda.
I mean, it’s just
I just remember when they got together and he said, You don’t have to do this anymore. I’m rich. Remember that.
So we also had Melissa’s fashion show. They had a busy week these ladies which was packed Teresa’s live pod, which was not packed.
Listen, I’m not trying to be shady. i This is what was sent to me videos footage from both I shared them. I’m just stating the facts. Did she do the did they do the live pod in Jersey? It was in Jersey. Yeah. Wow. And it was awful. I think it was jersey. Her people took a bus or maybe it was like far from where they live. I don’t know. But it was not packed. A lot of people who took a bus who took a bus like her daughter. This fourth of July celebrate freedom and power with a new RAM from Johnson auto Plaza for a limited time take advantage of incredible savings during the fourth of July sales event whether you need a truck for work or for play Johnson auto Plaza has you covered with hundreds of rugged powerful new rams to choose from Let freedom ring this Fourth of July at Johnson auto Plaza stop in north of e 470. on highway 85 or online Johnson auto plaza.com.
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What a lot of followers told me was they would listen to her pod but and I I have listened to her pod but I don’t regularly but that her people are not a fan of her podcast host. They say that she like talks over her and she’s just very abrasive.
Okay, so at the fashion show and at the live pod. Danielle and Jen. We’re both events with no issues. I did hear that Jen and Danielle had a conversation on camera at Teresa’s event. Melissa didn’t attend Teresa’s and vice versa. Teresa didn’t attend hers.
But productions goal is to get them to have a conversation on camera.
Okay, I mean, I think we’d all like to see that and like get this some sort of, yeah, like, resolve or at least back to where they were where they’re at least in a you know, they’re not,
you know, completely fighting with each other and there’s no maybe they’re not having Christmas dinner together. But well, what we learned today what I learned today was they are so Okay. A follower had told us that somebody she knows, has a mansion in Lake George, which is upstate New York, a very popular summer vacation spot. I actually been there many times. It’s awesome. And they were scouting this person’s mansion. But they didn’t go with that house when she told me they didn’t go with the house. Another source told me they rented some place in the Berkshires. Yes, the person thinks they’re stopping it. Dorinda is on the way.
Melissa and Teresa, everybody. All the girls are going to the Berkshires next it’s happening next week. And this person said they may be stopping at renders. So picture at Amanda
does Dorinda play mediator. In Melissa and Teresa’s. Now we
We know that the New York and the New Jersey ladies, the New York, oh, geez and Jersey have done a lot of events together. Because they do all these like we see it all the time like these live shows or pop ups or whatever. And because they live close, if Dorinda and Teresa do an event or during the and Melissa do an event. And when times were good between Melissa and Teresa, all three of them do an event. So we know that they know each other in real life. And I’m sure that Dorinda doesn’t have a close relationship with either of them. So I would imagine she’s neutral, right? She likes Melissa. She likes Teresa. She knows them socially. They’ve gone to lunches and things together over the years, Dorinda was at Teresa’s wedding. So now, they stop at her house, and is production able to convince them like, Listen, this is what we’ll do it during this house, you’ll have lunch, and then she’ll take you to the fish room.
And she’ll sit you down. And she’ll, she’ll orchestrate the conversation between you two. And it’ll be interesting, because we’ve been hearing from sources that there was possibly going to be two separate trips, as well. So it’ll be interesting. We’ll see. But I mean, you can’t go to the Berkshire’s. If you’re the housewife, wife world without going to see Dorinda, because you know what everyone would say.
What are you doing? You got to
do you know, a father sent me a message when I posted this, and they said, Dorinda Dorinda is Berkshire house was truly the Lincoln Tunnel of the Bravo world, like he got to pass through to get to it. That’s hilarious. That’s too funny. So we saw Jackie’s daughter’s bat mitzvah was also this week, she posted pictures, but claimed it was just kids. So I don’t want to say I shouldn’t say claimed. So it is a common thing where, let’s face it, these things are like DJs and dance parties for 13 year old does like yeah, and Lucy needs to be there now. So I hear it was just her and Evan, who were the adults and her daughters the twin right? Well, she has two sets of twins. So I don’t know if they did something else for the boy or maybe the boy didn’t want a party or who knows.
So there were no cameras there. There were no other housewives there. The reason I was told is because there were no adults. Now, these events we know a Bar Mitzvah Bat Mitzvah a sweet 16. They’re always planned well in advance, right? Yeah. So it isn’t as if she could have switched it up at the last minute. Because we do know that she’s getting a lot of screen time. I keep getting emails. Oh, Jackie and Jen are full time. I heard hear from a reliable source. They are not full time but we will see them especially Jackie a lot more than originally planned for because of her beef. Specifically with Margaret, interestingly enough, so we got an email on that if if the people if the listeners missed it, maybe we should read that. Yeah. Okay, subject is Jersey beef. Yes, Jackie wanted more screen time. Yes, the beef with Marge is giving her that beyond being quote unquote, neutral and able to attend all the events. The rift actually gives her the limelight, but there is a rift. Marge is not happy about the ozempic comments and also feels that Jackie isn’t appreciative of her getting a book deal, which Marge says that she helped a lot with. So the first piece of it, the ozempic comments, I sort of feel like maybe privately Marge wasn’t thrilled with it because she she was pretty honest. I think she called it hormones or whatever. But she was pretty honest. And I think now is epic has been around for I would say publicly what about a year a little bit more than that? Yeah.
And clearly, we’ve known Marge for many years, and she’s always been a similar weight, which was certainly not heavy, but not super thin. And now she’s noticeably thinner. So okay, you know, she said she’s working with a doctor for hormone treatments and all of that and we’ve discussed this on the pod so I can understand where Marge might not love the comments. But you know, Jackie’s coming from a place of having had a if not lifelong, since she’s a teenager eating disorder right so it isn’t the same as if you were to pass judgment on me right you without an eating disorder me without an eating disorder and me using it and you being like Yeah, did you see be just took was epic and now she’s skinny. I can be like, Why are you going to news outlets? I mean, obviously this will assume you’re on a show, guys. I apologize. I know I sound stuffy. My allergies are bad. You
You know what I’m saying? And then I could be like, like, why is it bad to speaking out against me and like, spreading my business? And? And I don’t I don’t know that I’ve never heard Jackie Neymar. Right. I think there’s the assumption. I think Jen Fesler has also, if not admitted it, I’m gonna assume it and Dolores admitted it. So she’s also not specifically targeting just Margaret. So I don’t mean to learn that they were all doing right. I mean, Teresa. Teresa had, in my opinion, no weight to lose. I have always thought Teresa has an incredible figure. Yeah, she’s from her first time on the show. She’s somebody who has always I think, number one, I think she’s naturally thin or, if not, has always clearly watched what she eats and exercise because she’s always been in great shape. Yeah, but she is very skinny. I noticed in the shin ad, how thin she looked like her legs were like, noticeably adjust the shape, say it like that. Because they were never heavy. I mean, she is never somebody who.
I don’t know how tall she is. So I don’t want to guess her weight. But she is never somebody who is probably bigger than a size four or whatever. Right, right? Yeah, I don’t know. I can see where I get see how March would be a little unhappy. Because I think March is also for some reason, taking the brunt of a lot of VSM thick comments.
Like, address it a lot of the housewives but a lot of the housewives in New Jersey specifically. I don’t know why it’s because she’s the first one who admitted it. So I could see how Marge would be unhappy with that. And she probably does feel a little bit like to Jackie comes back. And now she’s neutral. And she’s saying stuff against you know, that feels like a personal attack to her. So I don’t know if so we know that Margaret wrote a book. So it could be true that
Jackie was working on a book because Jackie’s a writer, so I, I’m sure she had an editor but I’m sure she wrote it herself. My end. It could be that Marge used her connection with whomever she did her book with whatever publishing company to help Jackie get the book. So I can see that being a thing. Certainly, it just seems. I guess it’s all the things. But you know, I have to say,
and I’ve said it about other people before, when you’re demoted as a housewife. You want to stay on the show. So right what is Jackie supposed to do? And like, if I were Jackie, what I would say to Marge is wouldn’t you do the same thing? Like if you got demoted? Wouldn’t you play the game and be neutral? Because let’s face it, once Jackie’s not a main player, Teresa has no real reason to come for her. And if you’re if you’re at peace with Theresa, I think she’s a very nice person. Fans always say she’s lovely. She’s sweet. She’s like, just a nice person. So why wouldn’t Jackie go to her events and be cordial with her? It would make no sense for her not to they’re made up? Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Okay, I think we should talk about Southern charm. Because it’s been, it’s been interesting. To me, it’s been really interesting watching because we knew a lot of this stuff well, before and cocktails knew a lot of the stuff well before it was revealed on the show, and so that we see, bit by bit revealed. And we know, you know, for example, when Austin a couple of weeks ago said nothing happened, you know, and Taylor said nothing happened. We knew that that wasn’t the full truth. So Shep and Austin, finally get together and have a chat. How many Why don’t you tell me what you thought about this whole situation? Because I think Shep kind of confronted Olson, but not it didn’t feel like a like real confrontation. To me. I think Craig hit the nail on the head when he said it’s almost as if Shep is like, happy or relieved, because now he has something on Taylor. So he was the cheater. He was the one who did this. He was the one who did that. But now he is not the only one who did wrong.
It’s so sharp. It’s so the boys club.
And if I’m Taylor, I mean, that would be hurtful to see how he hugged us.
seemed like
it was yucky to me. I do think on the other side of it. I do think number one, I think that Austin, I think Austin really liked Taylor.
I think I thought he liked her when she was still dating shop last season. And they I remember they were in like a shoe store or something. And they were having like a conversation. And I think Madison rightfully called it out that he really does like Taylor like romantically. And I think Austin felt badly for Shep, more so than he did Olivia. I don’t I’m just saying this is the feeling I got because I don’t think Austin wanted it to come between him and shop. But I and I don’t think he would have done it if it was just like, oh, Taylor is just so pretty, you know. In other words, I think like he had like, he has an emotional attachment as well to Taylor like he likes her like he would date her. Yeah. So you don’t think there is any world in which because remember, guys, they Shep and Austin had gone to Australia together before Christmas, and then ship stayed and everyone’s like, Oh, is he really gonna come back? Right. Do you? Do you think there is any world in which
Austin didn’t tell Shep when they were in Australia? We think that he went on this whole trip. Because what’s funny to me is that Shep isn’t like, we were just traveling together for weeks. And you like, Why didn’t you tell me any of this? It just felt a little to me. Like, maybe the conversation had already been had. And they were doing it again. Right for the drama on camera. And maybe that’s partly why I do think it’s it is very old boys club. But I wonder if maybe that’s why some of that emotion just felt like it wasn’t really there in that conversation. That would make a lot of sense, actually. And today, I saw a clip for tonight’s episode where Austin’s looking at Olivia and he’s like, Well, you talk to everybody else. Why won’t you talk to me about it? Like my impression?
And she’s like, I don’t want to talk to you whatever. She said, I don’t want to talk to you kind of thing. And then like cry kind of stuck up for Olivia at No. Then she was like, stop with the Shannon across the table like, let it go. And Craig’s like, Chef just because you don’t care and you’re over it. That chef and Taylor hooked up doesn’t mean Olivia has to not care and be over it. Which I was happy that you know, because I think that Craig is also looking at this like this is so weird. Why are they hooking up with each other’s girlfriends because he never liked that about the whole.
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Like, in other words, he’s like, I know you guys slept together. My question is I wonder why they didn’t date was it just too much backlash while they were filming and they were like we can’t and then the moment kind of passed.
Yeah, or like, that’s what really happened when each of them were going and talking to their family and saying like, what do you think you know what? Because you know, Taylor, put it out.
sake we had a conversation of should we do this? So I went and talked to my brother. It’s probably more like, Well, we had a bunch of drinks and we fought. And then I talked to my brother. You know what I mean? So I don’t know. I think what really bums me out is that they crossed the line because I really did like them. I wonder if maybe Austin didn’t date her because of what we learned this week.
Oh, because we don’t know what they knew know that. Yeah. Yes. Because we know back then that Taylor had also hooked up with Whitney and fillers are all messaging me like what did you see this clip? I might. I posted about this? Yes. Cocktails do way back when So Patricia, Good Ole Miss Patricia. Gotta love her. She brings out the fact with Madison there that Taylor sent Whitney. nude pictures again, guys. Why does nobody listened to me when I say don’t do this shit.
I mean, cocktail is new. This we posted during filming that her and Whitney had hooked up.
So we share this from a source not an email guys back in March. hooking up with her friend’s ex isn’t the only shade of Raquel that Taylor shares. This is back because this was during scan of all we learned about this in March. In the same way it seems Raquel use James to be on the show the charmers have collected the charmers meeting people on the southern charm cast have not to be confused with the cocktail hours who also have come to this conclusion of collectively realize that Taylor may have used sharp. This is evidenced by her hooking up with both Austin and Whitney this season. She’s willing to do whatever it takes to make herself a good storyline. As a result, none of the girls want to hang out with Taylor, because they feel she’s a social climber stepping over them all for reality television fame.
So we know they go in on her this season on Taylor. And honestly, this intel now makes sense.
Some are saying that she’s spiraling like we’re walking in on the show, not now not like in real time. She’s spiraling due to her breakup with Shep, which certainly can be the case. Right? She was heartbroken. And so she went to Whitney and Austin or Austin and Whitney in whichever order, whichever word or but there’s also the argument that she wanted this season to be her season to shine first Austin, then Whitney. At the same time, she’s also trying to launch an influencer Instagram account and partnerships. And she’s working for day chaser. So she was a job she left was a dental hygienist. Certainly she left that job because of sharp she could have gone back to that job but and I’m not hating on her. She’s securing the bag. I’m sure she makes great money, doing her partnerships and all that. But she has this platform. So it’s just it’s very interesting, I think because we really thought of her as this sweet, kind, Christian girl who was in love with Shep and
similar to how we saw Rachel and she sort of rip the rug right out from under us.
I think the truth is somewhere in between, I think maybe she got her eye on sharp because of the platform he has, and was perhaps interested in, you know, being on TV, but I think she did truly love Him. I think a lot of the way that she’s acting is because she’s hurt. I don’t know that the whole thing is been like her like, master plan. Right? I think there’s like a set. I think the truth is somewhere in between. I agree with that. I agree. I do want to just say something though, that’s it really is bothering me about Patricia. Because, you know, I know you feel the same way like I support women really, you know, it just bothers me how she Patricia puts girls on a pedestal when they’re dating one of the guys with the exception of one person I can think of bad, but that’s because No, no, she liked Madison. No, it was what’s her name Catherine with a red herring, Catherine. She did end up being friendly with her. That’s true. And then hooded her again. Right. And so then when they’re no longer dating, when these women are no longer dating one of the guys she’s like one of the first to just trash them and it just feels gross to me. I don’t
like it, I don’t like it either. I think that she’s very.
She favors the men clearly, with the exception of Madison, who she had an independent relationship with because Madison was her hairdresser for many years. So I just think it’s different with Madison for her. Yeah, every other girl is only as good to her as the group of guys she’s tied to or the boyfriend she’s tied to. I also feel like she never took the Madison and Austin relationship that serious like, no, she never even took it seriously. Now, so okay, and then we got an email about sharp which he’s back to his bachelor. Bachelor ways. So the email is who’s the mystery lady. I was at a blackjack table in the Bahamas at Baha Mar last week. God I swear to God, we hear so much about this resort. I was there this summer, so no one.
And Shep sat down right beside me with a mystery lady. We played cards for a good hour, and he was just as he seems on TV a bit loud, a bit pompous. And in his own world, he and the mystery lady held hands and hugged and kissed and we’re all over each other the entire time. He also didn’t win very many hands because he wasn’t paying attention to the cards only to the woman he was with. So that mystery was solved more than one source told me that he is dating Miss Bahamas. Her name is Sienna Evans. In fact, a few weeks ago, she was in an Insta story and people confused her with Brynn it was like you couldn’t really see her close up. And she has like, big hair like Brynn she’s gorgeous. I looked her up online. Seanna Evans, Miss Bahamas everybody. Look her up gorgeous. Interestingly, Taylor has just started posting about her new boyfriend. Who is TJ from southern hospitality. He’s roommate. Guest on I don’t
I don’t know if it’s guest on like Beauty and the Beast in my mind it is. But yeah. How else would you say that GA s t o is done. Gaston Gaston. Listen, the timing is interesting. Shep is out and about with his new girl. And I have to tell you, and we know it ship but he’s apparently telling people like she’s the one he is head over heels, which for him can last anywhere from three to six weeks. But
this is what he’s saying. So it just seems interesting timing. A friend of theirs actually a mutual friend. Let me know that. According to their him, they both moved on. They’re both very happy. They’re not making each other jealous. They’re not playing games.
I mean, I’ve seen a lot of Taylor’s games so huh, I just have to say though Madison Lacroix is reality television gold.
She is sort of having like a camera and roll now where her family life isn’t as involved because she’s obviously married and not dating in the group anymore. But she has friendship with both the guys and the girls. Her one liners are epic. When she when she was like, if that would have been me, they would have had to call a patches because I would have ripped her hair out or whatever she said. her friendship with Miss Patricia. She sort of like stole the role, which was meant to be lovers of that cat because leather was supposed to be the new camera and in my mind, you know? Yeah, love is beauty. Such a good point. I never thought about that. But you’re totally right. And lovers, Madison has kind of stolen that. And I’m sure she knew what she was doing when she did it. Love. It is beautiful. She’s a great business woman. But she’s a snooze. I mean, I’m sorry, not sorry. Like I don’t mind her in the southern hospitality Lisa Vanderpump role, but like the southern charm cache, she’s just an add on. Like, she’s not she’s not Madison like Madison. She can weave it. She can. She’s a forest. She’s a forest. And she’s also playing the role very well. And I think her intention is to play that role very well. Yeah, I mean, she was one of the boys that went over to a pitcher shows that later that night after the day chaser party, yes. Nobody else was invited. Because Yeah. And she’s I mean, she really is hilarious. She really is really is hilarious. And she’s not afraid to say what everyone’s thinking and you need that. Yeah, I just people are a little scared about that. So you have to be a little scared of the person in that in that role. But she did come right out and say it that tea party. You know, I think that Austin’s in love with you, Taylor, you know. So you’re right. She is she’s calling it kind of everybody out having this kind of Narrator almost, like involved Narrator role. I like her in that role. Yeah, I do too. Because we don’t want to say goodbye to her and we definitely don’t want to see her dating Austin anymore.
I don’t know. Okay, so kind of wrapping up this week’s episode and kind of wrapping up that whole season. Let’s chat quickly about the OSI reunion.
I mean, I like I think I liked. I think I liked it. Like I said that I think I liked how, at the end, they with the exception I think of Shannon and Gina, they were all kind of in a good place. It leaves space for Heather to return. Although then she posted today and she kind of didn’t sound like she’s in a great space with I don’t know, it okay.
Where Tamar is concerned, it really feels to me like she’s so happy to be back and she just wants to stay back. Stay on, as evidenced by like her yelling at Andy was weird.
Like, shut up, shut the fuck up. Like I was like, Whoa, why? And it’s like, take some blame. Like, I’m an asshole when I’m drinking. I know. But let’s all be friends now. Let’s all be friends now. And then like when they did their shots, she was like, okay, thank everybody. Thank you so much for accepting me and welcoming me back. And like she was almost like, I just did it for the show. I’m not an asshole, which I believe to be true. I think that she does play a role in the show. But hide it better. Shannon, I couldn’t be more over her. Yeah, we’re hearing that now. She’s doing this outpatient. Apparently, the network. Let you know the word is is that the network was kind of like, well, they want her back. Which is surprising because the fans seemingly don’t. So I wonder how that will change things. Because I’ve just seen a lot of like, we don’t need her. We don’t want her. But she waited all these weeks to go to rehab, right. And now she’s doing an outpatient. She’s continuing with the trace amigas. But they’re gonna focus on their friendship, which and not the drinking, but their friendship is basically whooping it up. Or fighting so and then when she was so big on herself, like, I show more than any housewife in the in the network. I weighed myself, I took off my shirt, I tore my shirt I was cheated on, I was getting a divorce. It’s like, what? Like, wow, you think highly of yourself? Well, and then even all of them were like, I did this. I did this to like, kind of shut up, Shannon. I gotta say, like, I just have my doubts as to whether this
chase Omega show is really going to happen. It’s just so not a good luck for Shannon like, how I just keep wondering, why is she doing right? Is it money? Is it because she really hard up for money is very good. So I forget what the follower exactly said. But based on the tick, this was the show in LA based on like, the tickets, and then the merch and like the VIP, and how many they sold. And then like, however many people they get into the venue, they were getting a cut of like the drink and
they made like on the event like, I don’t know 30,000 50,000 So I mean, it’s good money, I would say they’re each probably walking away with I don’t I don’t know the exact numbers, but it wasn’t like peanuts. It wasn’t like they all made $1,000 Like they all made like 10 or 15 or $20,000. This is what this person explained to me based on the show that they had gone to. Yeah, so yeah, I think the money is good. And she did reference money. Like with John. I don’t know what John’s career was. I’m assuming he’s retired. But she’s like, Yeah, well, there were concerns when we were together like would we have enough money? Yeah.
She also has a high cost of living let’s face it. Well, right and we know that she got a good I mean, not good. But she got a you know, she got a sizable amount. I don’t like saying good as is hard to say because for her who knows what is in proportion to the lifestyle she was living but we know that she got a sizable, a sizable divorce settlement. I don’t know I have always been a Shannon fan. And i My heart goes out to her watching this last episode, just saying she’s not. She’s not been in a good place. And it makes you just really sad watching it knowing what happens 10 days later, right? And I just hope that she just
kind of looks at what’s going on in her life and figure out figures out what is serving her and what is not. And whether it’s alcohol, whether it’s being on the show, whether it’s, you know what, whether it’s John Janssen, I just hope that she takes us wake up call as an opportunity to just take stock and make some, you know, make some good changes for herself.
I agree. And you know what I just thought to myself, maybe seeing the first reunion really caused her to be like, You know what, I should go get some, some treatment for this. Yeah, you know, like,
I really need
some help navigating my current situation, which is not an easy thing to admit right for anybody. So I just hope that if she goes she does the work and she helps herself. Yeah, I agree. Cocktail hours, you’re the best as always, thank you for tuning in. We know there are so many podcasts and only so much time in a day so that you guys choose cocktails and gossip means the world to us. Love you guys. Thanks, everybody.
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