85. Selfie Counts; SLC Drama; St. Barth’s; WTF is Yorkshire Pudding; Summer House Tea

Happy Holidays, Cocktailers! We start out this episode talking about holiday plans, including what the heck Yorkshire Pudding is…We share our selfie counts – plus B’s got a theory on how selfie counts could be a great casting tool. There’s a lot of chatter about SLC – we share all the theories plus the tea on what Heather is freaking out about in Bermuda. Our RHONY Legacy ladies are in St. Barth’s and we don’t care if we’re the eagles or the pigeons, we are eating up these episodes. Amanda did a little research on Kelly Bensimon’s “It’s complicated” relationship. Our source keeps sending us hot Alexis and John tea – and of course we’re sharing it with you. And we wrap the show with some Winter House/Summer House tea – and B’s got some great spinoff ideas – Bravo, are you listening?

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What’s up cocktail hours and Amanda? Couple of days from Christmas. Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. Happy new will you be you’ll be hearing from us again before New Year. So just just Merry Christmas for now. It’s up Amanda.
Hi. Hi guys. Hope everybody is surviving the last few crazy days because I know whether you celebrate Christmas or not. It’s just a nutty time of year. So hope everybody’s doing well. Have you started figuring out are you cooking anything be What are you doing?
I’m not well, bitch. In the words of Dorinda, I’m stressing you know, I never was a person who worried about things but as I get older I feel like I’m taking on like my mom’s like my life is a wreck. So I’m a little embarrassed to admit that I did order a lot so my brother’s doing Christmas Eve and we do all the fish the Italian stuff. Oh, I love that. We also have some Jamaicans not not that I cook any of the Jamaican stuff but we also have some Jamaican stuff because you know my sister in law’s Jamaican so we have really good stuff on Christmas Eve and then Christmas days at my house with mostly the same people so some change ups you know how it is some people go to in laws and that kind of thing. So every year we do Auntie pass which obviously, you order and my cousins, they’re my fake cousins, right? They’re Spanish so they bring empanadas, which is awesome. And then I usually do a pasta dish sometimes it’s like a Makati. Sometimes it’s just like a simple either a penne alla vodka or whatever. So this year I am making that we do a rib roast. So we’re making that but I ordered potato croquettes rice balls, stuffed mushrooms, like I’m not doing any of the sides. So I’m only really making a pasta and a green salad because it’s really all I have the bandwidth for this year.
I hear you. I feel like so traditionally with Christmas, I would always do like a big fancy brunch. So after Christmas presents have been opened. I would do that and then I’m like I am done. I’m done writing for the day love that because like the whole like having to do that and get dressed up and go out for Christmas night for another dinner. It just sounds like no No fun, but this year are switching it up a little bit because I’m not cooking really anything. And so because it just like we’re going out or going over to other people’s or all of those things, so I think I will do a rose and I’m thinking about a Yorkshire pudding. Donut, you know, like that.
What is that?
I don’t know.
If you’d like to name
it, I’m looking it up, like a traditional Christmas dish. So I was like, That would be fun. I know. It’s like a savory delicious souffle, right? It
looks like that. Well, it’s like, what is it? No. All I know is that I see eggs and milk and drippings from a roast. Yeah, so I’m in but let me not look at the recipe and let me just like, look at what it is. Okay, Yorkshire pudding is a baked pudding made from a batter of eggs, flour, milk or water. A common British side dish. Oh, so it’s kind of like, it’s kind of like a pop over. And then you use the juice from the roast beef.
Yes. Yes.
You’re gonna have a bad. Oh, look, it has. Oh my god, you like dip it in the gravy. Okay, we’re dead. Oh, popovers. Look at me. Okay, so
I have to report back. popovers I do do that. Yeah. So anyway, and to do make that I think.
I don’t know. I know what it is.
I just did. Yes. I’ll send you pictures. I just got I’m not even done. I just spent an hour and a half wrapping presents, and still have a few more to do. And then I have some company coming tomorrow my like best friend from going up and her family are coming through town. So getting to get see them for the night. And yeah, it’s, it’s gonna be fun. I’m looking forward to it. I’m not feeling super stressed, which is great. Like, definitely have some more errands to run, but nothing that feels like, overwhelming.
That’s good. I feel well, you know what else is hanging over my head that we’re leaving the following morning, which we always do and go into Florida. But my husband reminded me that when we came back last time, I said, I washed all the clothes, which this doesn’t make sense and put them in the suitcase, because I’m just going to wash them again. So if he’s correct, because I have no memory. This is how bad it’s getting like my memory is shot. If that’s true, then I just have to watch that stuff and put it back in the suitcase. So that would make my life easier. Because you know, all the summer stuff is put away. So now I have to get out the not zip locks. But you know those things you zip them in? Yeah,
maybe if you have a little quiet time on Saturday. Yes, that’s my plan. Yeah, I feel like there’s always like a little, like, prize quiet time, or on Christmas Eve too. So that’s okay. Well, I do have a question for you. Before we get into everything this popped up on Salt Lake City, and I got to wondering myself, so they were talking about selfie counts. So before we start talking about the actual show b I needed to know what how many selfies you have on your phone.
Here’s the thing, my daughter and my son both take my phone and do selfies. So I have 13 129 however, if I had to guess probably like 30 of those are mine. And they’re mostly like me, like turning my camera to see if like my makeup straight. I know this happens to everybody, but my face must be very like off skew. Because when I take a picture in selfie mode, I feel like my face looks deformed.
I totally I agree. I’m with you. I am not a selfie person. I think how many do you have? I looked at mine. I have 428. But there’s actually a lot of pictures of me and somebody else right? So I have a lot of those to like
we’re out to dinner with our friends. And after three glasses of wine like we are picture snap. Yes,
exactly. So I would I would too would guess. Like, I was thinking less than 100. But then I’m like, Oh, I think really probably less than, like, less than 50. And I just I don’t know, like if I’m doing it. It’s like, I don’t know, if I take it. There’s a reason right? It’s like, can I see the back of my hair? Did I curl it evenly? told it like yes,
it’s the same? Yeah. To or like random? Yes, like random body parts that you can’t really see you try to get a picture of yes, that kind of stuff. But I don’t. I don’t think I even have many pictures of like me by myself. Because why would I need that?
Yeah, I don’t think I actually have ever posted a selfie of just myself on social media ever.
I think like there was one time that I was feeling myself on the beach after some Prosecco and it was like a Snapchat filter like 10 years ago. And when it comes up every year and memories I’m thoroughly mortified. But yeah, I’m not let That’s it. And God bless everybody who does do that. And I don’t I love seeing pictures of my friends looking happy on vacation and selfies or wherever they are. Just personally, it’s that it’s not really my vibe. Yes.
I love to take a picture if I’m like, Yeah, out having a great dinner or whatever with friends, like I love to do that. So I guess that does count as one but I don’t like that should be Marian, we’re
talking about this. And I think that we’re Bravo needs to do is make that part of the rules, like at the interview process. Let me see your selfie count. Because I do think you need to have the personality where you have a cell phone full of selfies, and legit selfies, not our kind of selfies.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe somebody just needs to teach me how to do it too, because I am terrible. Terrible at it. Like I’ve tried a couple times to send pictures like to friends, I sent one to you last week. And I was like, which pair of shoes right? And I’m always making a weird face.
I think our daughters could teach us and also I’m kind of nervous because I’m looking through my now and they’re all my daughter and that means she’d make a great housewife and I’m not sure how I feel about that.
That’s too funny. Okay, so Salt Lake City. I feel like there’s so much chatter about this last week show and then the upcoming finale. So we saw last week that Monica out now throws Meredith under the bus for what went down with Angie, and that it’s all from Meredith that there was just talk about the Greek mafia and that there are some kind of debt I think the word bankruptcy or something was used at some point. And then we see Meredith kind of try to explain it really just to Heather, very little emotion or reaction and kind of says like, No, it wasn’t me, the way it went down as x, you know, this is how it went down. And I think it was actually Monica, who said the DMS is what she says.
So first, I think it’s high time we had a mob life on housewives. I had a teenage obsession with the mafia. I read every book watch every movie with that said, I don’t believe Angie is our mob wife. No, the lack of merits emotion. So I actually saw it and I don’t want to take credit for it. It was a tweet that I saw by third King 0208. And I think it’s summed up perfectly because I was a little puzzled by Meredith’s reaction. And so this account posted, Meredith was masterful on Salt Lake City. She got riled up for a second, but collected herself and went straight to Angie, she did the issue. Then she neutralized Elisa on the bus, and if Elise is quiet, then Whitney and Heather are to Monica was spiraling looking guilty. So I think that that sums up Listen, Meredith has a JD from Northwestern. Okay. She is a smart cookie. So there’s been a lot of Intel there. Okay, this is kind of interesting. So there’s a fan account that one of Jen Jen Shah has like a whole army of assistants and people who did her dirty work. And one of them came out on Twitter and accused Monica of being the account reality Von Teese. Now, this account, I was actually reminded by my group chat with Larry and ally. And there’s a bunch of us in there that this account when Salt Lake City first came out, which was during COVID, and we were all home, and we were all very active. We’d like message, all of our oil fan accounts followed all of us and then this account kind of took a dark turn. And on my member, I had my OG account or my OG account, I definitely blocked them and the backup but then of course I forgot they existed and when I when this person revealed that it was Monica allegedly, I looked the account up and they are following me and they’re not blocked doesn’t look like they’ve been actively posting in a while, which makes sense because now she’s actually on the show. When
you say oh, good dark turn. So first of all interesting to me that you remember this account because I had never cited
it so it’s only about 5000 followers but since I’m you know a Bronco fan account myself, I just remember the account being very active and then I don’t honestly, you know, my memory I don’t remember the specifics. But Ali and Larry are both like no, we blocked that account because it was crazy. And we actually thought it was this other person who was a content creator like posing as this person so maybe it was and then back in the day and you don’t even bring up Jen Shaw because I find her pretty much irrelevant but when housewives when their show first came out, she was like friends with creators accounts and not necessarily big ones, small ones and like was on the phone with them, not me. So some people were very flattered by this and really talk to her and then this one account had a falling out with her and that’s around the time we blocked them because we were kinda like we don’t know what they’re talking Think about and like, kind of like stay out of it
when no part of it yeah,
yes. But it was just very interesting because when that name came up, I can’t remember the specifics, but I know I remember being like, Ooh, that was that account. We all blocked. Mm hmm. Yes. So
do you think Meredith is lacking emotion? Or do you think she’s medicated? Like, she just doesn’t seem very with it on this trip and like, almost like, there’s something like there’s I don’t know, like and like she, her speech is slowed. There’s a little bit of slurring it just feels like whatever whatever it is. It just making her kind of numb so I do think it’s
possible that she’s a person who uses a sleep aid I don’t take I tried it once an Ambien and it was way too strong for me. But I do know I have like colleagues or friends that if they take even like half of one the next day, they’re a little like off because those those medications are strong. So yeah, sometimes when people travel, they don’t sleep as well. So I totally think it’s possible that she takes a sleep aid because she’s traveling and she wants to get some sleep. Yeah.
And then she’s probably shouldn’t be drinking on that. I
don’t know. But I agree. It’s a little slurry.
I’m crushed. I’m just questioning like was this really to her being a mastermind or is she just like a little bit you sped up
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right. So next week, or I guess I don’t know if we have shows next week but on the finale, we which is the next show, we will finally get to see what Heather is flipping out about. We’ve heard different theories. Many think it’s about Monica possibly about that lawsuit with beauty lab, but then we’re getting some comments that are saying, Well, it sounds like whoever this is about did things to all the women not just to Heather some are speculating that it’s Whitney, but nothing’s confirmed. Lots of theories, lots of emails that we posted. Well,
they most certainly are hyping this up to be a huge deal. I think it is a huge deal. i Some people have early screeners. I’m not one of them. And I think it is a huge deal. I for Heather better be because she can’t come back from another black eye situation. She’ll be like the housewife who cried wolf.
And by the way, guys, if you want to send us early screeners were absolutely happy. You can just go ahead and send them to to be at Bravo and cocktails.com. And to Amanda at Robin cocktails.com. Yes,
if you feel so inclined. So I’ve heard from several sources that it’s about Monica. Yeah, as I say, I haven’t viewed it yet. So you guys know until I see it. I don’t I only get what I get. And my sources are usually right. But like, you know, I don’t confirm anything until I watch it. Yeah, I heard it’s the beauty law. The beauty lab lawsuit. I heard it’s about all the aliases she uses. I heard it’s about the fake social media account. And it’s clear that it wasn’t just Heather that suffered the backlash from this woman.
Yeah. If this is the case, yeah, yeah.
But one thing I know is that whatever we think about Monica Bravo fans are amped up. We’re watching. We’re excited for the season finale. This is classic housewives. This is what created the fandom. And for those reasons, as much as people want to say that she won’t be back. I believe she will be back. I think that what she’ll do is she’ll latch on to housewife or to who maybe doesn’t feel as secure and knowing that Bravo’s asking her back and she brought the drama if they latch on that helps them stay and get camera time. And I also think that Monica comes cheap. She doesn’t have much power to ask for a lot of money, and she brings the drama so why would they had Jen shot back after they knew she was going to be indicted?
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think the season has been so good. And you know me I’ve always liked Salt Lake City. I last season was probably my least favorite. But I’ve really I’ve really enjoyed it this season. So Monica, No, Monica Monica has definitely been entertaining. But things going on with all the ladies I feel like has been like we’ve seen a more way more real side of Whitney. I don’t know, it’s been good. So speaking of I, I say that, but then I’m gonna kind of circle back around on it. Because this whole thing with Heather and Whitney, when they start fighting, it felt like to me like it just kind of came out of nowhere. And like, maybe we’re in a like a It’s not about the pastor situation where they’re actually fighting about something else. Oh,
totally. Whitney is being so dramatic. I do not think she actually cares if Heather talks about her or duar photos. First of all, that is not exploiting her vagina, which was like, again, I like Whitney better this season. But I just feel that she’s always looking for a moment. And it’s too obvious. I think that a piece of it, because I think there was definitely some backstabbing between them. But I think a piece of it is, I think there’s jealousy. Heather has had great financial success, both in her business beauty lab. And she’s a bet a New York Times best selling author. And let’s face it, Whitney has not had the same luck. She’s had a few failed businesses, her husband lost his job. So it’s classic housewives. And I think we should expect to see it on the show that comes to mind immediately is the Roni reboot, because some of these ladies are going to see they’re all going to be starting businesses and partnerships and all of this and we’re going to see some of their businesses soar. We’re going to see others that flounder. And that will create beef and division. And it doesn’t necessarily make sense because on screen it’ll they’ll make it about cheese or they’ll make it about a boardwalk or photoshoot. But really, it’s because just as an example, Aaron’s tequila takes off. And you know, she’s the next Bethany Frankel. And one of the other women’s shoe line doesn’t sell more than a dozen shoes. You know what I’m saying? And I think we saw it back with Bethany like, Yes, back. Bethany was hard and rough. But if we’re really looking at it, you don’t think that she experienced like hate and jealousy when her brand took off so successfully? I mean, let’s not forget, Ramona had a wine Luann had a jewelry line. So when you had a tote like that is the crux of what keeps the beef going. We saw it in Jersey like Teresa’s brands, were never really sustainable. And obviously her prison sentence impacted businesses she started but there was a time where she had all those books, and she had fab aleni. And she had all this stuff. What did Jacqueline have What did Manzo have. So that created that’s why they turned we we wanted to think it was because she said this or that, but now that we’re more seasoned viewers, we know exactly what it is
jealousy. Yeah. Yep. Well, I have to say, honestly, like one of the highlights of my week has been getting to watch the Roni legacy girls trip episodes. It’s been so fun.
I mean, I’m absolutely loving it. I what I think I like about it is I like seeing them break the fourth wall, as they have on the other girls trips, right? Like they’re talking about their cameos that they do to make money, their appearances. And just, you know, various things they do as reality stars, and that’s how they earn their living. Right. Dorinda Ramona, Sonia and Luann have a very natural chemistry. Obviously, you know, it’s too bad that remota is Ramona and can. Because she’s, I’m actually enjoying her on this trip. Kelly is still Kelly. She seems to be taking her frustrations out on Kristen, in a big way. I don’t remember enjoying Kristen as much back when she was on as I do now. And I’m like, seriously annoyed with Kelly who keeps trying to knock her down and treat her like a fan girl.
Do you think that Kristen is being a fan or being a host? Or do you think she’s just like trying to kind of now that she’s there and they can talk about all the different seasons just ask questions about their experiences. I
also think she’s moving things along. Yeah, like she’s bringing things up. She’s making content and I think production sees her as a level headed person who is well versed on housewives because she did watch it And I also find and Kelly I never liked her and I find it actually insulting like you’re on Bravo filming a show. And you’re saying everyone who watches you is like a stupid frivolous person. But excuse me, like two things can be true like many Bravo celebrities are housewife fans or summer house fans or southern charm fans, many real celebrities watch it. So right. In what world Kelly thinks she’s too good to watch. It annoys me and it’s just more reason to dislike her.
And she’s biting the hand that feeds her in terms of fans and like denigrating what it means to be a Bravo fan, which I just Yeah, could not agree with you more. I never really liked her watching her. And by the way, I’m very much also enjoying Kristen, but Kelly feels like kind of a loner to me. Like I don’t see her as being a girl’s girl. I don’t see her as someone having close female friends.
Do you know what I mean? totally know what you mean. Yeah.
And I think Kristen just seems like I always liked her loving her on this trip. I feel like she is a great addition to the group. I really like her openness. I think she seems like she’s very grounded to to float up firmly in reality, which is nice. I like when the women don’t have their feet firmly. In reality, like Sonia, right. But yeah, and I just I think that her willingness and openness to talk about the whole Ashley Madison situation, I think is making her a great housewife on this trip. So
Kristen, first of all, I thought this then I think it now she is such a attractive, sexy, beautiful woman. Like when I just look at her like she’s so pretty. She’s such a and like, so many people are pretty, but she has such a look. Yeah, like, I just I think she’s beautiful. I agree. She addressed her husband being on Ashley Madison. And she pointed out she said, I’m the only one still married, you know, and, and she also says she’s like, listen, and sometimes it ends in divorce. And that’s your story. That’s your journey. I found the third episode, which is the last one I watched because the other ones came out today. I found it painful at that dinner where they were like, no, he cheated on you. He cheated on you. And it’s like, okay, this is years ago, right that this happened eight years ago. They’re married 15 years. This is their business. And she was trying to deny he cheated. And then Ramona of all people actually said, Listen, guys, she knows she dealt with the pain. She did counseling. She has children. And she had a marriage. And she worked on it. And it worked out for them. And they’re happy now like, let’s move on. Yeah, I really loved that. I think that it’s also refreshing to see her. I guess she has no choice but to address it.
Because no, she and she knew that right? She’s like, I’m kind of glad that just came up so I could get it out of the way and discuss it. So
bravo. So I have my DVR set to record like Roni and jersey. So as they’re replaying like the Christmas episodes, oh my god, I watched them all for both Jersey and New York. And they also replayed scary Island obviously because they’re back on the island. And so that was in my DVR. So I read I rewatched it just a day or two after I watched the new one and Kelly isn’t all that different. Her thoughts are so jumbled, and she has difficulty expressing herself coherently. Yeah, and you would almost pity her.
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she wasn’t so rude and condescending on the OG scary Island, she aimed at Bethany who Bethany really was never a sympathetic character. However, she was pregnant at the time. And it was before she made her money and everything and watching Kristen insult her and just call her a cook, and a chef and all that stuff. Yeah. And on this trip. It’s Kristin. And what I after watching both, interestingly realized was that in both cases, these are women close in age with Kelly. So there is a sense that I got that Kristen must feel threatened in some way by them. Because all the other women have always been and not much older than her but like eight to 10 years is different than like two years apart. Right? So your point exactly. She’s not a girl’s girl. She doesn’t have a group of women friend. And as a matter of fact, it seems to me she does not like to be around other beautiful successful women her age, like she’s okay being around beautiful, successful women that are older, but if they’re her age are probably younger. She’s got no use for them. Yeah,
I think that’s a really interesting observation. I keep thinking I’ve got to go back and watch it when I’m trying to trying to keep up with what we do on the weekly basis but hopefully next week with some downtime. I want to watch that I want to watch the bluestone Manor Christmas that you were posting about the other day cuz there’s some so many good little classics in there. But speaking of classics, like classic Dorinda is back her line. Eagles don’t sorrow with pigeons. Go get your grip your breadcrumbs. I was rolling. I was rolling. It is like it is so classic Dorinda the Dorinda that we love and I was actually thinking about her because Oh, my gosh, you know, like, what is it? And I’m like, Oh, I remember when we were talking about the bluestone Manor girls trip, and how I mean, Dorinda was, but at the time, I had a theory. I’m like, I think she’s being mean and crazy, because she’s got all these people in our house. So not just not just the cast, but all the cameras and all the stuff and it like, I think it just wears on you if it’s in your space. So I stick to my theory, because St. Barts Dorinda is the Brenda that we know and love. Definitely, Cookie definitely still has a bite. But like so funny and generous. She’s generally pretty grounded.
Yes, you said it perfectly. She still has a bite. And I do think that sometimes the martinis hit her. Yes, but we haven’t seen her spiral into that. Like we saw it a little bit with Kristin, which, like Luann is like, oh, no, you can’t go there with D you you bring up that pause, boy, you’re gonna get it. So that was like a trigger point. But I am glad because Dorinda move past that. And we also we also watch them bond like another you said, She’s grounded. I also liked when Kristin said, and by the way, when everything happened with Ashley Madison, Dorinda, you are the only one who reached out and sent me a nice message. Yeah, I think that’s who Dorinda is at her core. Yeah, I think that I think just been through a lot in her life. I mean, she buried her husband. That’s not easy. She was a single mom. I think she’s I think she’s had some financial strains in recent years, posts, her husband’s passing, so I do think her core is a good person, but that line was truly amazing. And so Dorinda, again, Ramona is calm and she seems content. Now I know she’s cancelled after this but I have to tell you, I do believe that being off TV and her finding a partner really has been good for her I think it looks good on her and I think she is who she is. But the Ramona we’re getting I was nervous that I would be like cringing watching her but I’m really not.
But she’s still classic Ramona. Right. She screams at everybody because she’s hangry when they started the beginning of the trip, she throws the Fed about the room like that’s, that’s the Romona that we all remember. Yeah, but you’re right. I definitely do seem to think that she seems definitely seemed calmer and a little more collected. Luann keeps bringing up these rangers tickets. I’ve never heard her talk about hockey before. I mean, like multiple. I want to say it was even across multiple episodes. This Rangers thing came up.
Okay, it isn’t about tickets. Oh man. Yeah,
of course, it’s
about whoever Kelly is dating, who has access to the hot men who are in the VIP booth at the Rangers game that they go to. And everybody
knows that right everybody everyone sitting at that table knows it’s it’s it’s about Christian
Christians like wait, Can somebody explain this to me because I have a Rangers hookup. I thought that was hysterical. Yeah. And I think Kristen also and this is another way that I think Kelly and her incoherent way is calling her a host and a fan girl. Christians also translating for the viewer, like spell it out, you know, because people may think that the Rangers ticket is like she said, this isn’t a Taylor Swift ticket, guys. You could buy a Rangers ticket. It’s not MSG is not sold out. Yeah. So Christina is trying to translate. I appreciate it. And the other women seem to appreciate it. Yeah. Here’s another thing with Kelly. Because by the way, a very solid source told me way before this air that Kelly is exactly who she was on scary Island, because it’s who she is. It’s not that I digress. So she mentioned at the dinner when they first brought up Ashley Madison, that the reason she was how she was when she filmed and on scary Island was because she was in a relationship with a guy that wasn’t in a good place. And then we see her say to Luann, the reason that I don’t bring them to the game is because I’m not really in that stable relationship with the guy. I don’t even know where we stand. Although didn’t we get a message that she was engaged to
the guy like, yeah, it’s complicated. And so when I hear it’s complicated, it makes I of course, want to know more about what’s happening, because it’s complicated to me either means like, he won’t commit to me, or he’s married. Right, right. So of course, I did a little more research and looked into it. So first of all, a little off topic. But did you know that Kelly dated a rod for oil?
Ski bots?
Yeah, I didn’t know that. So it looks like the person so that person she was dating during filming this show was not actually a Rangers player. It’s and because the guy is not a celebrity. I’m not going to just say his name. But if you guys google it, you’ll see an article both in people and in Page Six about this. He is an executive in finance, who directs a large firm that everyone’s heard of their global sports and entertainment division. Well, that makes complete sense,
Amanda, because let’s face it, Luann isn’t looking to seriously date a 25 year old Rangers player, so it has to be the exact up in the booth that she’s looking to me. Exactly.
So he is a finance guy that works with athletes, which makes so he’s like sports adjacent, which I would argue probably to your point probably has a much longer career than being an actual player. And it does look like they got engaged this Fourth of July. So in fourth July of 2023.
It does beg the question, though, she was in an unstable relationship last time. Now she’s in another unstable relationship. takes two to tango. Maybe she’s not stable.
Okay, I would vote that. Yeah. Okay,
this is kind of weird and kind of random. And I’m just going to put this out there. And I’m going to leave it vague. A source reached out and mentioned that on the first trip, and I don’t even remember this, and I rewatched it but anyway, the women kept saying that they smelled cat pee. Okay, the person said, and by the way, this person is somebody who is acquainted with housewives put it that they looked into it. And because they were like, is it a drug or something? Apparently, meth smells like cat pee. So I am not making any allegations. But we have wacko behavior, although I don’t, I don’t think you could smoke meth for that many years. Like a meth head. But I’m just saying what this person said. Maybe you waited that there was some meth somewhere.
Okay. That’s all I’m saying. That is silly. I mean, I know you’re not insinuating anything. I don’t think she’s on meth. I just think that she is not a well spoken person to start with. I don’t think she can handle pressure. And then especially after a drink or two, I just think it’s she’s just one of those people who trips over her words and gets all worked up and can’t, can’t express herself in a coherent manner.
That makes more sense the math but I had to just mention that.
I have been I randomly I’ve been to a few different tropical places where there’s weirdly a lot of cats like Hawaii, there’s cats everywhere. I don’t know. So it really actually could just be cat pee.
That’s true. There are a lot of cats on like islands and I don’t know
why that is but oh, I you know why somebody told me that the reason there’s a bunch in Hawaii is they used to put cats on ships to keep the mice at bay on the ships and so that’s why they’re at least over a lot of cats there so that would that would actually stand a reason that there could be, it could actually be cat pee in that house. Okay, so let’s talk about your Rude Awakening on Sunday morning. Right into your inbox for a nice little first thing in the morning jumpscare you got some pictures and some videos of Alexis Bellino and John Jansen making out on his boat
first of all, thank you very much to whom ever this solid s FOC Alexis and John source is because they’re telling me everything and I actually made a master. What I’ve been doing now is what I have a lot of stuff on something I make a master post and put it in cocktails or cocktail errs have easy access to everything, especially if you join after something has happened. You could always message me and I will direct you to the master link. So we have like the hub house. And Karl break up we have skinnable we have a bunch of them. But now for winter house to winter house we have by the way, I love you winter house production. Thank you for our appearance and watch what happens live. We have a title we have country music, whatever. So we have our master list. I now have an Alexis and John master list who would have thunk it. So basically, several sources have confirmed she is back she will likely be featured as heavily featured friend of Okay, again, that’s all subject to change depending on how filming goes. What is interesting, is this source shared that she would have been back with or without John Janssen. Yeah, but she’s truly swept up in a romance and is fully into him. So
yeah, we were hearing byes about Alexis quite a while ago before the quiet woman picture popped up. Here’s what I think. I think Alexis has been provided for by a man for her entire adult life and is looking for that. I think she thinks John, like being older and seemingly more established. could provide that. I’m gonna say this, you’re probably gonna gag but objectively I don’t think John is not my type. But I don’t think John is a bad looking guy. I agree
with that. I it’s it’s what we know about him. Like I remember when he first was dating Shannon. I remember thinking he was an attractive. Yeah, man. Yeah, it’s
the Slade smiley as of all of it. Yes. Is Bob certainly
not ugly? If he walked by you on the street, you wouldn’t be like it grows. Right? And if he was like a super nice, great partner, we would find him attractive. Yeah. That is gag, or they like Brad Pitt who can get away with being an asshole. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. So I don’t know, I think it could be definitely about securing her spot of the show, but also about securing some kind of security in the form of a man providing for her.
Totally makes sense. And I also think it doesn’t hurt to have a juicy storyline. Hello, Shannon spiraling over it. And there is probably the knowledge that hopefully she won’t have to focus too much on her ex husband, which by the way, somebody commented on the video and wrote, listen, if you could sleep with Jim, you could sleep with anybody. And I was like, che and you on the internet today, my friend. That’s funny. But here’s where it gets interesting. And this was a cocktail post from over the weekend that we’re now sharing. As we know, one of Alexis has children is trans. And Alexis fully supports her child she actually had an article months ago and People Magazine right. So do you want to read this email that we received because it’s quite interesting?
Yeah. Okay subject is sloppy seconds OSI question mark. The new Slade in the OSI is obviously in it for D tear fame. His values do not all line up with his new friends family, due to the fact that he is very vocal that he hates a certain movement that his new gal pal reintroduced her child in people. This has been said of him prior to him dating her. He’s been very vocal about the trans movement and how he’s against it and thinks they are mentally incompetent and very vocal about the parents that quote unquote, allow it. So it’s just odd that he would date someone that is aligned with those he criticized. He doesn’t seem to have a warm bone in his body to say to significant others children. Maybe he thinks he can alienate himself from having to deal with them. He has also been heard saying something about a certain housewife’s sexuality that was rumored to be questioned in a derogatory terminology. Okay,
so picture it. Yeah, it’s a lot casually dating, right, Alexis and John both very into each other. I would guess at this point, conversations have stayed mostly surface level, you know, date bars hanging with friends. But here we have this hugely divisive issue, which in the past, I sort of feel like maybe Alexis would have ignored his opinion on it even if she didn’t agree right? Because you know, when it’s not about you, it doesn’t really affect you. If you’re that kind of person, right. Some people would bother either way, but I’m just guessing Alexis is that person but now, when this eventually comes up, is
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What will she do? Will we see this blow up on camera? Surely Shannon knows John’s views on this and when they’re on camera together together? I can’t imagine she won’t bring it up. So like even if Alexis and John are fighting about it behind the scenes or whatever. You don’t think Shannon is going to bring this up to try to cause friction between John and Alexis on camera?
I don’t know. Do you think that would fall into the like, we don’t talk about people’s kids? I don’t know. I don’t know.
I think Shannon will go wherever she needs to she’s gonna test and production isn’t gonna stop her. Let the fans criticize that they’re bringing kids into it. Come on. This is Bravo. Yeah, I think that Alexis is quite literally walking into a landmine. I mean, she probably doesn’t realize any of this. So if you’re listening, Alexis have the conversation now before it becomes a storyline. But I think that it could end up being a big, I had no I don’t know John Jansen, I got this email. I don’t know if it’s true. That email was sent up, he may come out and say this isn’t true. I fully support that whatever. And whatever. In which case, maybe we’ll see Shannon go, that’s not true. I know and bubble blah, and then maybe someone will backer on that. Maybe Vicki will make an appearance and be like, No, I was there when he said you know what, I’m just, I’m obviously spitballing all of this, but it’s just all things I can see coming to be? Or maybe
it turns into a productive conversation. And, you know, Alexis and John discuss it. And he sees things a little differently after seeing what Alexa says child has gone through
that case. Yeah. Who
knows? I might be giving him too much credit. But and again, like I haven’t seen anything quoted about him saying anything like that. I have an idea that this email is saying yeah, and I know you haven’t either. So you know, who knows if it’s who knows? Who knows how much of that part of it is true. Okay, so I know we were talking a little bit about Roni earlier and you and I are big fans of the reboots. So a follower sent in a little tea this week saying she spotted my favorite brand. Our girl this week at the airport the cocktail hour said Bryn is in St. Moritz, Switzerland on a ski trip with get well I just added the ski trip part because I follow bread with Gideon who you guys will remember on the reboot. They were looking at Vintage sports cars together and they had this very, very cute chemistry they had been engaged. He asked her when she was dating somebody else like this whole a little crazy. Rom Com story, the COTS the cocktail or said I saw them in the airport queue together. She is absolutely gorgeous and tall. He is exceptionally handsome and carried her bags. They seemed close, but couldn’t tell if it was romantic. I hope it is because they would be such a beautiful couple and on please. And
if you follow both of their Insta Stories, after we posted this A few hours later, you saw they were on they both posted a picture of the same ski slope so it was all true. I hope they do get together. They seemed to have such great chemistry when we saw him last season and it would be incredible to watch Bryn get engaged and ultimately married and kids and all of it and talk about full circle at the reunion didn’t Bryn mention that he was some sort of royalty a lord or is he right so like she’s the little waggled
Yeah, it they are such a little romcom I I would watch this rom com and I would like to continue to watch that. Yes,
we love it. Brynn make it happen for us. We want the marriage we want the babies we want all of it let’s go yes
let’s do it. Okay, so winter house reunion was on we got a nice little double feature with finale and the reunion are Bravo and cocktails. Winter house blind was discussed yet again. What did you think of I reunion and the finale and all of that.
I enjoyed winter house. I think overall, it was great for Schwartz in particular who surely trick some viewers into forgetting what a jerky is. What did you think about that? It’s funny, scoring and Sam so I really liked Sam a lot. I think she’s a great girl who has a lot going for her beautiful girl. I just don’t think Cory is ready. I do think he loves her. Like when he’s with her I think that he really loves her right but I don’t think he’s capable of doing a long distance thing and remain faithful. I think that had a camera not been in his face. He would have definitely done more than he did and still he as much as admitted that but most importantly I don’t think Sam after all of this will be able to really trust that he won’t cheat and I think ultimately whether he does or doesn’t is a moot point because I think that they’ll end up fighting over her distrust in him which obviously is his fault. I’m not faulting her for that. I just don’t see them going the distance long distance. So I guess my point is if they lived in the same city I think maybe they could make it work but
yeah, I agree. I don’t see it in the cards for them. He just chased still in his fuck Boyer I think and I think she wants you know, engraved nameplate bracelets with him. By the way,
cocktail party love that. Like people who know what it is and people like you who have never heard of it were like, What the hell are you talking about? But also I want one
you need to post a picture so well,
I don’t frickin have one so cocktail or send me a picture of yours. Yeah. Oh,
random.
Wait, what are the cocktail? There’s got to two different boyfriends got her double name plates with the anniversary? Oh,
yes. I mean good for her. Um, I totally totally like off topic, but about Sam in the finale. Did you find it very strange how they are just showing her topless as she was talking to?
I like really didn’t like it.
I did not like that either. I’m like what the hell like it was barely blurred out. I feel like I could see the shape of her boobs. That’s very much shit like guy like Bravo. Not cool. Like don’t just give it a real good like solid bar and
the set Yeah, sensor blah. I did not like that. And I really hope listen, if it’s something she was cool with and maybe wanted, then I have no issue with it at all. She’s, I mean, beautiful figure. Nothing about that. However, if I were her and I were watching and I saw that I’d be like, Oh my God. Yeah,
she Have we had I mean, they were changing after our night out? They yeah, I forgot that there’s a camera in the corner. Like it felt very invasion of privacy to me like, I know we are watching a reality show and I know that we’re watching stuff that would, you know, we
are it was very much topless. Yeah. Like they literally blurred her nipples. And again, if she’s cool with that, then I’m cool with it. But I just feel like maybe she wasn’t. Yeah, it just felt and it also made me remember, particularly with like summer house and winter house where they’re like always in the bedrooms picturing the other girls and how they kind of always turn their back and kind of hunch. And it makes sense now because clearly that’s and she is newer to it. So probably didn’t freaking realize. Yeah, so I didn’t like that either.
So I thought was kind of interesting is just you and I have talked about this a couple of times like watching the seasons right a Kyle has always been that central figure in the house and winter house and summer house. And now we have just heard that he is extending his Bravo portfolio. There is he posted that they’re casting for a new Bravo show. I guess the working name is house of Loverboy. It will be a new TV series based on the alcohol and hospitality industries taking place in a quote unquote top tier city that Loverboy is launching in and expanding in and it will be a house style show where everyone lives together and then meets and works together. So they’re working part time together and then there’ll be business challenges like kind of like what was it called?
Kind of like below deck off a boat. Yeah.
Or what was the show with the Martha Stewart did want to wear Bethany Frankel was on it apprentice apprentice, right. It sounds like it might be a little like that. It said that casting and pilot shooting will take place in New York over five to 10 days based on availability and shooting needs or schedule. And it says that said anyone can apply regardless of location. You know
what it also sounds like Amanda, it sounds like a while back when we had said that it would be really smart of Lindsay to pitch her opening up a PR firm and hiring girls and everything like that. We’ll get to that. Her how I imagine she’s doing right about now but Kyle is so smart. I have always said it. There were moments I didn’t always love Kyle like when he was cheating on Amanda obviously and all that but I have always admired his business sentence I listened to him on a podcast I can’t think of it it’s like a very popular whether
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business podcast. And as a matter of fact, like somebody one of my friends who like works in business like text me like oh, you should like they listen to that podcast. So like one of your reality people’s on it. Listen. Yeah. And you know, he’s positioning himself, in my opinion, himself and Amanda to be the East Coast. LVP and Ken genius. Yeah, I think the show sounds like it will be amazing. It’s basically winter house summer house, but like, sometimes those shows just seem like they’re just sitting around partying and this will add a natural storyline which is good. Yeah, because there’ll be working and it’ll be bad And they’ll have natural beef because of that, but I have a little little idea. Maybe they should cast Ariana is New York City based boyfriend. I mean, Daniel? Yes, yes, he’s a bartender. He’s a personal trainer. Hire him for one of those Loverboy spots. If it’s filmed in New York, actually, they said it would be and will take place in New York, okay, and we can even throw Ariana in there. So now she’s able to stay with her boo for a while on the East Coast. And then like Ariana and Daniel can film with Amanda and Kyle. We love a crossover. They can kind of be like Palermo. And Lisa and Ken and Glen ammos wife, right? Where they’re like, I don’t want to call them older. But let’s face it, they’re going to be older than the people. They’re hiring people in their young to mid 20s. Right. People will surely tune in to see Ariana with her new man. I mean, Kyle, call me I have ideas.
I love it. I love it. I think that’d be great. I couldn’t agree with you more. I think Kyle is extremely smart. I think he also seems like he is you can’t have the cameras on you 24/7 like that all the time without obviously cat catching some bad times, which it has, but overall he just seems like he’s a pretty good guy. He cares about the people. You know, his friends. I think he’s really shined. And when our house because everyone’s getting along for the most part, you know, yes, there’s some some bickering and some fighting and a little drama, but this whole like positivity vibe thing. Kyle seems to really do well in that situation. And then we posted this I think way back in September, that Carl is back with Loverboy.
We did post it we heard about that. Around the time the engagement was called off that someone told us that Kyle had asked Carl back over the summer and then at Bravo con they announced they were working on a non alcoholic beverage. It appears based on social media that he’s back full time and very excited about it. It seems to me like he will be part of the new show. I just have to say. In the meantime, Lindsay’s future is very much up in the air because apparently, according to a source she had said of corals back she’s out. I think her ultimate goal is to be a housewife. I don’t see that happening for her in New York City. I had the idea about the PR firm. So now I have a new idea. Lindsey call me. Here’s my idea, Amanda. Okay. Head to Miami. Start a PR firm. Maybe we could throw a little Mattie salt in there as her advisor? Yes, just making this up off the top of my head. But I think number one, Lindsay is a Florida girl born and bred. Yeah, I could totally see her fitting in Miami. I think that there are a lot of hot, young, cool, smart young professionals in Miami in South Florida. And I think that would be really cool. And I will say this. I am not saying like her future looks up in the air. I’m not doing that in a shady way at all. I want to be very clear. I personally am shocked that in this very moment. Carl has a more cemented reality future because let’s face it, he’s boring. And I believe wholeheartedly that Bravo would be not to lose her because love her dislike her. You know, seesaw between the two? Come on. Yeah, she’s good TV. And yeah, I think that they’re doing this with Kyle. And I see no reason why they shouldn’t give her a similar opportunity. I think that and I think another thing that we learned with the Roni reboot. And I we like I love that I think I work for Bravo. They had to put a lot of money into that. And it’s going to take time for it to catch on fire because people are still getting to know these women. Yeah, we know Lindsey, we know Carl. We know Kyle. We also know Paige and Craig. Like if they wanted to do a spin off of her moving to Charleston and getting married and what that looks like, like, go with what you know, and then add people to the mix. You know what I’m saying? I think that’s a smart formula. I think we’re gonna see them do that. We still don’t frickin know what’s happening in Atlanta, other than what we shared last week. Yeah. So I just think it’s a smart formula. So I I’m very excited about the Loverboy thing. And I’m also excited because I think that it is a prototype that if successful, which I think it will be they’ll continue to do. Yeah,
they can spin it off with a lot of other people’s businesses. We’re seeing it happen with what are they calling it a VIPs news show?
Yes, the villas or something villas.
Something Yeah. So it makes sense. You know, we like we like who we like, as Bravo fans, we don’t like to see them completely go away, which is why ultimate girls trip I think has been so successful. Yes, I really liked this idea too, because I actually like it for Lindsey, because I’d like to see her, you know, there’s so much business moving down to Miami specifically, it could just be sort of could just be some good opportunities for her to and just to get on her own two feet and have her own thing.
I think, especially as a young reality star. And if you’re looking at the Rooney women, right? Once these women, first of all, they’ve had careers before television, they had marriages that they came into money before television, and then they made money on the television show. And now they’re older. And you see they’re still hustling for that money, right? Because you get used to it coming in what you know, our younger Bravo stars, our 30s and 40s Bravo SARS should be very cognizant to, like Kyle has, like Craig has, get, like Paige has, get yourself a business that when it’s time to run off into the sunset, whether it’s by choice or forced, right, right? You have a career and no, you may not get 100,000 An episode, but be smart. Invest it. And so if it dries up, or you decide, I’m married, I have a kid, I don’t want to do this anymore, whatever your choice is, you have a career to fall back on. Reality being your career is not if you’re 40 or 35 Do something else in addition to Yeah,
I mean, even Johnny bananas, who has seemingly had like been on every show, I mean, he’s gonna run out of shows competition shows to beyond,
right, exactly. You see him hustling, although he does have a gym, he owns a rumble boxing, some whatever, he has another business. So like, if the business is making $100,000 a year, that’s a normal salary. Right? That’s what that’s a good salary. So yes, of course, somebody like him is going to want to as long as he can hop on a show that he can make a quick buck. But he can live off of his side businesses, which is, you know, I think that’s the key. Not that you have to try to find something that’s going to make you super duper rich, but find some if you’re if you’ve made reality, your focus, you have to find out and it can’t just be a podcast, because once you’re no longer on the show, nobody’s tuning it.
By the way, I heard this on Heather McDonald and I have to steal it and share it here to Amanda Bynes, the actress who has had some, you know, mental struggles, I guess, started a podcast, got through one episode and then quit because she she couldn’t get drink. I heard. I mean, oh, girl, you have no idea. It’s it is. It’s a lot of work. It’s a labor of love. We have a lot of fun doing it. But it’s I mean, we’re not just like podcasting is it is not just easy to just get started and do and be like, I have a podcast now.
Absolutely not. And I think I think I thought it was gonna be a lot easier than it is.
Yeah, but it’s a lot more fun too. So
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