152. We have GOT TO GET OUT: Spencer Pratt is here!

B and Tracy interview the one and only Spencer Pratt, who has been keeping us entertained on social media since the days of The Hills. Spencer is an open book and spills some amazing never before heard tea, you won’t want to miss. We also get to learn more about his new reality competition show streaming on Hulu on April 11th called, GOT TO GET OUT. How has life been after the fires? Are we finally going to see a Pratt family reality show? What is the secret to being a successful reality couple? And of course, we talk burritos, crystals, Heidi’s pop star career, and TikTok. Watch GOT TO GET OUT streaming on Hulu April 11th.

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails. But you better believe we’re going to spill the tape. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from Bravo and cocktails.com and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I’m B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tea. You What’s up cocktails. So Amanda is still away. Tracy is joining me today, and we are thrilled to welcome the one and only. Spencer Pratt, hello, Spencer, hello,
hello. Thank you for having me. It’s an honor. We
are very excited. Yeah, it’s so great having you Spencer, we can’t wait to dive into all the things today. 2025 has been quite the year for you, to say the least, obviously huge fans. Since your early days of the hills, you were the villain. In recent years, you have become lovable. To put it mildly, I think we were heartbroken to hear about the fires in California and that you and Heidi lost your family’s home. I know you held so many memories, and we obviously can’t imagine how hard this time must be for you. It’s amazing to look at how you took this hardship and really spun it into such a viral success for Heidi and her music career, it’s been exhilarating to watch. Can you tell us a little bit about what that’s been like for you guys?
It’s so crazy how sometimes, like, when somebody does a good intro and tell I guess that’s maybe what therapy must feel like, when somebody like talks about what I got a cam green, I just focus so much on the music and the success and the positivity and the support that it like keeps me going. And even if I hear about the reality of actually our lives for a second, it’s hard to breathe because it’s so crazy and it’s it is so depressing, and so I don’t actually think about it, unless somebody specifically uses the words that describes what has happened in my life. But yeah, I know it’s horrific. My family home that I grew up in, my parents just had to put their dirt on the market for sale, which I planned on having. I taught my son how to swim in that pool. I learned how to swim in that pool. I was hoping my other son, I was going to teach him how to swim in that pool and grow up going to their grandparents house. And now my parents are living in an apartment in Santa Monica. It’s just a psycho but yes, out of horrible, horrific, nightmarish devil life, evil, terrible things. So. So much positivity has happened, so that’s how it’s thankfully. That is how is part of our journey, because I can’t come like my mom. She cries all day long and can’t leave a room because she doesn’t have all the positivity that is happening to us happen. So I know what the other end of this could look like, so I’m
and it’s harder for older people. Let’s face it, that was her home for you were raised in that Yeah, right?
4040, years. Yeah. And my mom, other people would call her a hoarder. She, I like to refer to her as a historian or a collector, a joke. She had every single Special Cup from like each like the Ghostbuster cup, from when I went to the Ghostbuster movie. She’s,
that’s their generation, right? Because, like, we are, like, orange, I’m exactly your age Spencer. So our generation, we’re consumer, constantly buying our kids nonsense off Amazon and everything. But our parents got, we didn’t get gifts like they did, like even privileged kids didn’t get how kids
get today, yeah? So she had it all, yeah?
So she kept everything. She kept every Hulk Hogan cup.
So yeah, it’s it’s crazy,
yeah. Speaking of the positivity and things happening, I got to binge your new Hulu reality show. Got to get out, which is available to stream all episodes on April 11. And I have to say, this was one of the most fun, hilarious and nail biting competition shows I’ve ever seen and like we know you can’t share spoilers, but can you give our listeners an idea what they can expect from got to get
out. Put it this way, five days in, I got to FaceTime Heidi and she’s leave right now. Quit. This is the craziest I’ve ever seen you since I have met you because I hadn’t slept in five days trying to and that’s saying something, actually. Yeah, right. If you ever thought I look crazy, I imagine they have footage of me, if they choose to use it. I don’t know whatever they use, but I didn’t sleep for five days straight trying to break out and get the money, just living off of energy drinks and espresso shots. It was the most fun I’ve had on a show, because that hope and that energy of I need money and I want money, and other shows you get paid, so then once you’re in the show, it’s like, I don’t want to be here. I already got my money. What’s the point? Okay, maybe I’ll get a little bit more famous, but am I gonna fight with these people and then have people dislike me more? It’s just like this weird mental battle. You go through the whole thing. I try to make a better show at the cost of then people thinking I’m like that, even though I’m just trying to get better rating. So I didn’t have to do any of that on the show. The producers going into it. I was like, So what do you need from me? They’re like, nothing. Just try to win the money. I was like, Oh, it sounds like vacation. I out of the I had a blast, obviously, looking back inside of it, you’re it’s crazy, and you’re like, get me out of here. I’m just getting out. Because you really get so close to breaking out so many times, and I’ve only seen the first 40 minutes. I was just late to this call because I just got the screener and I couldn’t turn it off. And I was like, Oh, this is good. I just
don’t know why we got the screener before you did. That’s, you
know, I think I have issues with all these new junk and iOS and the chat GPT, like, my mail goes into 40 inboxes. Now, I’m like, stop filtering. Where’d you put this?
Too high tech, there’s a bunch on the show. There’s a bunch of known reality stars. We have Cynthia Bailey, Kim Zolciak, Omarosa Val from Dancing with the Stars, and then there’s a bunch of normal people, who did you click with? Who did you dislike the most? Was that happening? Were you just focused on winning?
Yeah, I loved everybody because I was planning on getting a million dollars no matter what, so I didn’t. I love doing these shows because I try to be in this situation as a viewer. And I love people watching. So people that are playing these characters, some are real, and then some people I know are just like, doing stuff for the cameras, which I enjoy just as much when you’re there watching somebody just, like, act insane, but like, just produce. Yeah, self produce and image craft. And think that they’re like, so slick about it, and I enjoy that so much, so I just sit there and just watch. And I have so much fun. It’s like being in a show. No, even though it is, I really, I’d say val and I became close friends. Out of it, I never watched Dancing with the Stars, and honestly didn’t know he was respectfully because I didn’t, I don’t watch the show. But ends up he’s pretty good dancer,
and he’s you. Have you ever been approached to do dancing with Yes, I was the
first one out of all the hills people and stupid MTV said no because they didn’t want me to be likable and become famous. Oh, yeah. And, well, you know, once you say no, once you say no to those type of shows, like, I swear they put you on the burn book. That sucks. And they didn’t say, No, it didn’t come from that’s the thing. Sometimes I’m like, I hope my team back then, with air quotes clearly articulated, Spencer would love to do the show, but as they will not legally let him, but I’m sure that it was just a pass,
but they but you know what? And again, we’re. Not going to go into it, but they have to know, like certain networks say no because you were there quote, unquote villain, and MTV no knew because they knew you, that if people actually saw you being affable and your funny self, that people wouldn’t see you in that negative light. Yeah,
I hope they think like that, but they didn’t, and they never, never hit me back one sec, can you please get that dog? Because we have a 15 year old dog that just if she can’t look at you, she just screams. It’s very strange, but good for her to be alive. So yeah, honestly, I don’t think I would be very good at it, because I have a pretty serious learning disability because can’t remember. Val said it’ll be fine. So I said, if he was my dancing partner, he could lead, and we’d do great. So if they want to do it, push for you. You know, yeah, I he said, if I wanted to do it, I said, I’m pretty busy right now trying to follow Heidi around as a pop star. So things slow down here, which I don’t hope they do. I don’t think I have time to go learn a cha cha right now. Now you’re booked and busy. Praise God Amen. Thank you.
Yes, yeah, you pretty much confirmed this, but it looked like, just from watching the show, that you had a great time, and I love you and Kinsel CX relationship, so I feel like the viewers are gonna just see Spencer being Spencer. Would you say this is the most authentic version of yourself we’re getting to see on a TV show 100%
you know, because that there was no agenda from the producers, and there’s no so yes, as I keep saying, I’m so happy to be part of the show. This was so far. It’s not like, I don’t give me more money to say this, like, and I don’t care. It’s not all the ratings are better. I get a ratings. But, like, I really, genuinely had a great time. And they really it was a great game, because I’ve looking back on it, they played me like a fiddle because I thought I wanted spoiler alerts, but I thought I had it figured out. I would have done it very differently this time. I was just laughing because I went in thinking it was a show where it’s all he told you is, you got to break out of this house. And if you can break out, you can get this money. That was all I was like, oh my god, I’m gonna Jason Bourne out that window. So I bought all this, like, art, Eric’s survival clothes. Wore, like, all black ninja boots in there. And, like, I tore something in my something I got injured just getting into the house, because I thought, whatever, my stupid brain thought I knew what I was doing. And I look back, they didn’t even use any of the get into the house, which was a whole freaking night, like whole action night, and seeing that they didn’t even use that. I’m like, I wish I just wore a Heidi shirt, freaking my sunglasses and walked it’s what a sucker. Listen.
You live, you learn. So we spoke a little bit about how MTV had you as the villain. And I actually remember hearing Brody Jenner was on a pod not long ago, and he went into detail about how you planned that, right? You were like, I’m gonna make this show
good. Yeah. So the difference between what Brody was trying to say is, we had just done princes of Malibu, and we were the producers and the creators of it. So we just spent a whole summer, like, where everything was made up on the show, like it was all skits and scenes and like, ideas and scripts. So when we saw, when I saw that the Hills was being produced by a guy that was just our employee, that was our show runner, and I saw his name because my mom’s friend was like, You should date this girl when they were watching the hills something. And I was like, What’s this show? And I saw this guy’s names on the Chiron credits, whatever. It’s like, calling him like you got a show, and you didn’t call us. And he’s, oh, no, you can’t be on this. It’s, it’s from the girl from Laguna Beach. I can’t. It’s already a cast. I’m like, now we can be on this. I’m gonna get on the show. And so when my whole plan at the time started from the jump, because I met Heidi before she started filming season two, and it didn’t work out, because she had a lot of boyfriends, and she people like to say that it was because of me, but she doesn’t remember. She was definitely not trying to be in a relationship. And long story short, she started filming the show, and Brody was dating Nicole Richie, and Nicole Richie’s best friend was this talent producer, Sophia, and we’re all Chateau Marmont. And I was like, I could get on this show tonight. Take this whole thing over. And she’s like, how? I was like, who’s Heidi not getting along with? Oh, this her and this girl, Audrina, they’re fighting because Audrina went out with Jason over the summer and blah, blah, blah, I was like, I don’t care about all that. Call this girl, tell her to come here. Like, we should go to filming tonight, and I should be here date. So like, that first scene where I’m on that red carpet, like coming with that was literally planned to just make a scene to get Heidi react, make drama. So just from the and the one I saw how easy that was, and then that Adam de Villa producer was like, This is great sign here. I’m like, where I’m signing your talent agreement. Like you think I’m stupid. So I rated like, at least a season before ever signing a release. That’s how I got a pretty incredible deal. But yeah, I was all made up, and I went. My goal wasn’t to be the. Villain, per se, but just to be the like antagonist. And then right, it just got so dark once, and they started paying so much money. And I don’t look back and think I wish I hadn’t done that. It was just once LC declared war on Heidi because she Brody stopped pretend dating. This is the true facts. Not even, oh, Brody wouldn’t do the pretend dating anymore with her. And so elsie’s Okay. We’re done with these two guys. Because, like, she looked at us was like, double dates, because we were all double dating and off camera, blah, blah, blah, and Heidi’s Mel, I really like, since there’s no, like, I get her, she wanted a single respectfully, uh oh, like, party girl to be out doing a wing woman. How? Well, exactly. And I wasn’t what Heidi was down for at that point. And so she was like, You’re off the show, and thank God for Tony to Santo is the president of the network. It was like, she were like, the hell I am Turner to Santo the president. And they were trying, Madam Deville was like, oh, you can’t be online. And and the president of the network was like, she can leave with, this is true. Call him up facts. He was like, she can leave before I’ll get rid of Heidi and Spencer. So I love him forever. So that was when it was like they had to make us look so bad to keep her.
She must have known that. So she really did. So then it was like, it went for her not giving a shit about you and just wanting you off the show. To her being like, Wait, they’re choosing roadie and Spencer over me. Now I
hate, yeah, and then which again I get all this. I’m not there’s no judgment here. But once it was, that’s when the producers were like, had to appease her, but we will make them look like the worst people on earth go. I to go along with this made up rumor, thing that wasn’t a rumor that I had nothing to do with. It was true. Blah, blah, blah. I went along with it all because it was that or not, get $110,000 to go to dinner. And I’m not stupid. So that’s where it went sideways. The goal was to go in and be like, make just the villain on the I was also the villain on the princess of Malibu, in the sense that hijinks, oh, like, took the Grammy, just the word villain in I love England, because in England, they call it Panto, or pantomime from like the stage shows, and they love it. It’s panto. The villain is just like the person that causes the angst. And so it just went so dark, the person who makes the show interesting, exactly. And then it just went darker and darker, because then they started using family members against Heidi and paying Heidi’s mom literally $10,000 to say stuff because Heidi’s mom didn’t have money in their restaurant was going under. And I’m sure she would take all those things back now, but at the time, you know, you started doing that to the girl I love. Now, I’m real emotional, and I wanted the word. I don’t know what manic means, but it looks like manic energy because you got that. You’re paying off my little sister to turn on us and create everyone’s just thinking. Everyone’s just getting better. You know, they’re all getting this
is a little off topic, are you? Do you speak with your sister? Yeah,
yeah, yes. Definitely good. I love that. You you,
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I listened to you how I got reintroduced to you in recent years. Was on Heather McDonald, and anytime you were on, I was like, Oh my God. And then I listened to your pod, because I loved listening to you, and I feel like I knew that you were talking to your sister, but that always made me feel bad, and it’s good to know that it was just a show
thing my sister has written books about her mental health and her what she like, I have learned I don’t need to wait for apologies. You know, I’m saying it’s about her. It’s not about you. Yeah, I’m not gonna, I’m not saying I’m the bigger person. It’s just I old Spencer is needed. No, you need to go on air and take back all these things you literally lied about with now, I don’t it is what it is. I don’t care. Yeah,
awesome. So Spencer, besides being Heidi’s number one hype man, you got Blippi to meet your kids, gunner and Riker. And as a mom, that’s like a huge dad flex, and it’s always been the case. But why do you think it took the public so long to see that you’re the goat when it comes to being a supportive husband and
father. I think the media took off the like the gatekeeping of the reality. I love the media, but if there’s if, like, James Bond’s a spy, we’re not changing that. So once it’s, oh, he’s the bad guy, everyone hates him. You have to, you almost can’t do stuff that’s not so I get that was the aura that I allowed to be attached to. But anyone the younger generation that re watches the hills, because I’m deep in the Tick Tock world and always in the comment section and always on the edits and the clips, the younger demo that wasn’t brainwashed to the like mass media polarization, they watch the hills and all they see is, why is this friend a hater? This guy clearly loves her. Course, he’s acting like this, and I always felt that way. Everyone’s attacking him. He’s just defending her. He may say things that are like little too like rough or like too hardcore, but I was listening a lot of rap music back then. So I think people without those goggles of our era never saw me the way I’m not, which is always better. Nothing’s changed. I didn’t like our house, didn’t burn down, and I didn’t become Heidi’s number one fan. That’s why I’m Heidi’s husband with two kids and Bendigo for 18 years. It’s nothing’s changed, but the bigger media audience saw the power of the social media people that set now the mainstream media, and they unlocked, you know, the as, like one of my close friends, I wasn’t allowed at his wedding, even though I was supposed to be a best man, because then his wife was like, she can’t be there. And he literally said to her, she obviously believes in Santa Claus. So the like,
I’m sorry, that’s weird. I mean, yeah, like, your friend should have been like, what
I again, I don’t. I’ve learned to just, like, everybody’s gonna do what they’re gonna do. He’s like, Oh, off the wedding. But it’s, I think
he was you and Heidi to us wrote the playbook for reality TV couples, and especially when you want to talk longevity. What do you think today’s reality stars are doing wrong? Or do you just think that you guys were smart enough to know your real life versus your television life?
I honestly, I love reality TV so much I haven’t watched a reality show in I want to say four years, I’m thinking Heidi’s always watching him. I see him in the background, but I’m sure, like, my favorite reality star is Alex Earl, like that, to me, is the modern reality star, somebody who is a powerful woman, super editor, content creator, shows her life is vulnerable, does everything you’d want is authentic. Care brings you along on this that, to me, is the modern like, what I love from reality, what I always tried to be before I got bought off and was the goal for me, what was always to be the realest person and be like, Yeah, that’s me. If you love me, yeah, I would like, I always say, because people like, I try to like anything I text. I’m fine with you reading that on the news. I don’t about people. If I’m talking about somebody like anything,
you’re a hip hop fan. If I said it, I meant it, bite my tongue for no one. Yes,
I’m more trapped music like, come on, Biggie, Smalls. When I was this. I was, I’m on my underground rap, not like mainstream rap, so I don’t even listen to rap. I’m saying only rap I listened to was like, Hi hater, hi hater. The may know something, but yeah, I don’t. I think it’s really impossible to be a reality star right now.
Totally. So many things about Spencer Pratt that we love, but I love personally, how much you love burritos and the videos on Tiktok of you like on airplanes and delis just whipping them out. It’s become one of your signatures. Have you ever toyed with the idea of a burrito shop, and if so, what would the burrito named after you have in
it? So this is what’s so funny about. About just different platforms. I’ve been doing the same thing with the burritos for nine years on Snapchat, and then randomly, I just did one on Tiktok, and people went crazy for it. I was like, this has been my thing, truly, for nine years with Enya, the whole deal. And then when I saw the response on Tiktok and iG reels, I’m like, oh my god, like, I’ve gained 35 pounds since it became a bigger deal. So it’s a little annoying that I’m not famous for salads, but it’s so amazing. Even Heather McDonald texted me and she’s like, Is it weird that burritos bring me so much joy, too? And I’m like, No, that’s how this started. They’re so good, and they just make you smile. I had a big meeting with this, like almost billionaire this week to try to figure out how to fund my frozen burrito line. So I’m gonna make I’d rather do something that I can get to everybody, versus also, I have too much loyalty to, like, actual local spots that I go and support, that I wouldn’t want to all set and have my own spot and then not be pumping up Don Antonio’s, or me Fiesta Delgado, or all the spots I hit. So are you making your own burrito shop? Not a shop. I will have my own burrito though. Yes, we love that. I love that. A little licensing deal, yeah? So definitely kind of burritos. I love it. Maybe a hot sauce first. A hot sauce is because, oh, I do, yeah, it’s a little easier. So I do have, I do have some samples in the kitchen right now for the super food so hot.
And also, like everybody would buy it, right? Because people put hot sauce on everything, not just burritos, exactly.
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Loved the collab with Heidi and Pitbull in general. Love seeing her shine. We saw her at the Billboard Music Awards, finally getting the recognition for her talent that she deserves. And I hope the answer is yes. But has there been a situation where somebody turned you down in the past and now they want to do a collab, or they’re reaching out for you to work together? One
thing I learned from burning so many bridges back in the day is don’t do it again, is that I don’t even, I don’t even register that anymore. So obviously, every I’ve been pushing Heidi’s music for 16 years now. So you could technically say everything that’s happening right now. Was that so I could be so yes, but I’m sure, if I thought about it, yes, but I’m so like, but
you’re not gonna let your pride tell you at all if a big, big artist comes to you, like, if Taylor Swift comes to you and she’s told, you know, in the past, you’re gonna do the collab.
Silly question. Silly question.
Oh, we’ll do a collab with Travis Kelsey if he wants to sing. Let’s come
on. Yes. Oh my god. So I was watching the night Tiktok went down, and you were on a live with Bethany, Frankel and Alex Earl. It was such a moment, I’m sure, like whoever watched it will always remember where they were when they saw each of you fading out as Tiktok was like slowly dying, and you’d work so hard and gain so many followers, it was all gonna be taken away. But do you feel at this point, if tick tock was banned again, you would still need
it. Oh, yeah, there’s nothing like tick tock. It’s there is not even a close second. I obviously, I make big, more potential to make money monetizing Snapchat or even I heard Facebook and YouTube. All these are like better, I guess, for money. But I don’t go anywhere, any place on planet Earth. Now, even before our house burned out, and the only people say to me every age demo from I swear to God, 18 to 80 years old now is I love your tick tocks, to the point where I keep on being like, oh my god, I gotta keep posting. This is crazy. So that doesn’t happen every now and then I. I’ll get, Oh, I love you’re on Snapchat or, you know, that’s it. It’s tick tock. There’s, it’s so the exposure is what you’re saying, yeah, just the energy. It’s like people. It’s however they it’s a such a positive frequency it creates. And yesterday, I sold pre owned designer, luxury brand designers. I was watching five hours, and I had 1000s of people messaging me saying it was the most fun they’ve ever had watching. And I’m like, it’s just so ridiculous. So I You
just said you don’t want to burn bridges because you used to burn them. But who’s the fakest celebrity you’ve ever met?
All celebrities are as fake as they get.
But here’s the thing. So you’re like, you were on the cusp of being a celebrity, even before you were on, like, princes of Malibu, right? Because Brody is an adjacent and,
like, you guys, you Sorry, I just said the baby’s asleep. It’s a miracle. Oh, yay. All right. Mazel, oh, moms, we get it. Yeah, no, when the princess happened, they re brought back family. Guy, this is the level at 20 years old. I sold this shows the youngest executive producer. This is my ego and brain going into thing ready. So I withdraw from USC because I see the Osbornes on, and I’m like, I read that they got $25 million 5 million each. And I watch the show. I’m like, This is good, but it’s just British people yelling in a mansion. I was like, I know Americans in a bigger mansion that yell way more. So I call Brody. We have a meeting at PF Changs. I’m like, Can I film a reality show your family shout out his homie. Chucky. Was like, You should do a Brody. So bro if you get a camera and you come tomorrow morning, I’ll do it. So I started filming with Brody all summer. Dave Foster was always yelling, Get out of my house. I was like, it’s gonna be on Fox because simple life had just aired or whatever. And I was like, I got the male Paris and Nicole, but way better looking with respect, because at the time, Brody and Brandon look like dang freaking that once they were guest models on Bill like they look like movie stars at this time. So I was like, I got Paris and Nicole, but like leading men freaking James Bond looking George Clooney mother. I was like, This is it. And,
right? And they were, at the time, Bruce Jenner, right, yeah. And he was Bruce back then, and they were his sons. So they were celebrities, yeah, and
they’re in the biggest house in all Malibu, and just in lindo is beautiful, and she was Elvis’s ex, and a singer is the perfect show. And she met, was she married to David Foster Yeah, that was who. And so it’s so funny about life that Dick was his dick to you, I love him. I love him, you know. So I guess, yes, he was a horrible dick to me, but that sold the sell by screaming. He’s sensory, but I’ll love him for even going along with us.
Because he could have just really the fact that he let you film at his house. Yeah, technically he hated technically
he wasn’t. So that’s why the my sizzle was so good, because it was like, get the fuck out of my what I sold the Fox was so much more hardcore than the Hokey version that the Canadian shout out Brandt the Canadian producer turned it into. But I get it was supposed to go on, so it comes on after Family Guy. They relaunch Family Guy and The Simpsons, our advertisers are Coca Cola and McDonald’s, like, the checks I’m supposed to start getting, I’m gonna be like the new Mark Burnett, like, at 20 years old. And so, of course, Dave Foster has to get caught cheating the day we start filming by Linda. And so Linda says she will film out, and then she’s quitting, she’ll film and I should have, right then, been like, we should just call it just but so the day that airs, she calls the News Corp, and is, I’m filing for divorce. I get my call from the chairman of News Corp, Peter attorneys. I’m canceling the show. We didn’t buy a show about a divorce. Now I would be getting a raise and a bonus, right? It would be follow separate the date new world, but back in 2003 that was very not good for TV, a divorce. So then, yeah, Did he cheat with Yolanda? No, no, I don’t think Yolanda’s born. I don’t know if Yolanda was born yet. No, Yolanda, the freaking GG, no, I know. Isn’t Yolanda a lot younger? No,
she’s she’s maybe younger than Linda, but she’s probably her daughters are Gigi and Bella Hadid. She’s
I saw the whole pilot called Malibu high starring Gigi Hadid before she was famous, and it was trying to sell its MTV, and they didn’t buy it. And it was Gigi and Bella as like Laguna Beach, but in Malibu, I literally shot a pilot, oh my
god, with my own money, and it was phenomenal.
Oh my God, that sounds right up our alley. Do you do any work with MTV still or
Well, now it’s paramount. I love shout out paramount. Plus, I think it’s all under paramount, right? Not
it. If there was ever a time to pick up cameras on you, Heidi and the kids, it’s obviously now, will we finally get a show that’s just all about you guys?
Just keep asking Hulu that question. Hello, hello.
We did when we were waiting for you. I guess I need to give Heidi and Spencer a show, right? Yeah, like that would be
wonderful. Keep that word going around the building
all the things go. Going on. It’s like we’re missing opportunities every day.
So let’s get it I can only do what I can do, or shout out, shout out to the cocktails listening.
Let’s get that trending on Instagram that we need.
You know, Heidi, sushi, Disney. We love them. We
do. We do. How profitable is being a reality star now compared to then? Now,
if I had social media right when I was Spencer from the hills, all the platforms I have right now, I can say this with a lie detector test and holding a Bible. I don’t know if I would be Kim Kardashian rich, but I would definitely be Khloe Kardashian rich guarantee brandy. I mean, I would have 100 million thought. Even if people all even with the hate, they would all the hate followed me, but I would have still had 80 million hate followers, which the advertisers don’t care, as long as you they get that. Sorry, yes, if I had a show as big as the hills with these platforms, it would be more profitable. But if it’s not as big as the hills with these platforms, it’s more profitable just with the hills, if that makes sense,
totally so with Pratt daddy crystals, you’ve turned that into such a legit business, like what made you believe in it at the
beginning? Oh no, Heidi made me do it because she told me I couldn’t buy any more expensive crystals. I would I had to sell. She said I had to sell the ones I had if I want to buy new ones. So I was like, how about I buy a bunch, I keep some, and then I sell the rashes. I don’t care, you just need to sell them. So that’s what started. And then, thankfully, I only like buying the best crystals to keep for myself. So it’s kept the brand the best crystal necklaces in the world, because I have to wear them, and I’m not going to just put on some stupid, ugly crystal necklace. It’s worked out having expensive great taste.
Have you been able to find a lot of the crystals, or any of the crystals that were in your home? They’re
all shattered in 1000 million pieces, but yeah, I probably have 30 buckets that I’m gonna have polished and sell them as Palisades Fire Crystals. But obviously they were worth about $2 million more than they’re gonna sell for. Wow. You know, I’ve been buying crystals with all my money. I’ve been buying crystals since 2008 just collectors, pieces that all people would like them. You know, these were also investments for my kids, because they don’t grow down in value. Most of my stones I had went up as much as Bitcoin went up. Like there, I bought really rare museum grade pieces that at any time I could have sold to museum collectors.
Get into it, though, what was the it that made you get into crystals?
I was waiting for a godmother sandwich at bay cities with Heidi on Lincoln Santa Monica, and the lines were long, and saw this huge white rock in the window across the street. And I ran across street, I gave my credit card. Said, Hey, can you buy Oh, dolphins, can you buy this? I ran back to my sandwich, and then I got a call from our business manager. There’s fraud on your credit card. I’m like, Huh? They’re like, not nature’s wonders world. Oh, my God, no, that’s legit now, like, for $75,000 I’m like, what that White Rock? I’m like, let me go back over there. And he’s telling me, always best bullshits driver in my life. This was from a volcano in Peru, and this was floating in the lava. I was like, Oh, my God, it’s a crystal from the lava. Of course. Yes. Now I know crystals do not they melt and shatter and heat. I witnessed it firsthand. It would not have been floating in lava.
Okay, I gotta ask what’s a godmother? I know what a godfather sandwich is. I’m
Italian sandwich at bay cities in Santa Monica. It’s very famous. I don’t know it’s got. I don’t want to miss the ingredients. Blobby. I eat it so fast. I don’t know what’s in it. I know you can get it spicy or less spicy. Oh my
God. I want to go back a little too. I’ve got to get out. Would you like with your experience there? Do you consider yourself a gamer, reality TV star,
yeah, but this one was hard because, you know, usually my game is just torment people and make them just like miserable. Like, this one was a lot like, that’s how you do Celebrity Big Brother in England. You just break people down, and then they just don’t want to be there, like a war of attrition. This show, you gotta make sure you can have alliances with everybody, because you never know who’s going to get a ticket and you want them to maybe bring you in. So was really hard. It was very confusing how to play it, and I don’t know how, looking back and watching it, I’m like, I don’t think I could have done it
better. Yeah, and you guys were the first so whoever’s on season two, willing, there is a season two will already have a strategy, just by reaching watching season well, they’re gonna have to change it. Even
if you watch this, I could watch this. And you know the thing, the windows change. It doesn’t matter. Like, yep, there’s too many. Here’s the thing, to get people not standing where a window is, takes so much, and everybody knows you’re trying to, like, move them away from a window, so it’s a
great i Didn’t you guys didn’t drink it, all right, so your guard wasn’t
down. I wish we could have drank that was my one issue with the show.
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because if people were drinking 1000 times fair, but they said it’s too dangerous, which they’re not wrong, you know? Oh, everyone was getting hurt sober.
Oh, yep. Ken salce, I wanted her wine.
Oh, she had it. She smuggled it in. As we were trying to get to her wine, it was like off site. We’re trying to figure out how to get to it. She had good wine too.
Oh, man, did anyone’s personality change when the cameras were off? Or were they they
never, yeah, they never went off. There was definitely stuff that happened that I don’t think legally they can air, that makes the show that’s how crazy the show was. And I’m not gonna I love Hulu AB to see Disney, so my mouth is closed, but things happened. There was, you know, not everybody left the house. It was crazy.
Let’s just say that was there anyone that you think was underestimated in the cast? Can you say
no, I never underestimate anybody, especially because there was 10 people. You have no idea who they are, totally so that’s what I love. The as they call them the rookies. I like to call them civilians. I loved having the 10 never been on a show like this type of because they were at a disadvantage. Would you say that or advantage? Because less about them? So you know, you know you have no gage of what they’re capable of.
Just because you’re a firefighter on paper doesn’t mean Yeah, yeah.
So you say, but beyond a reality show and believe just because they told me they’re a firefighter, like, I never believed that doodles guy one word that came out of his mouth. I still don’t believe him. He’s like, sending me links for games. I’m like, bro, I don’t even believe you make games try to steal
my identity. And I
know it like I’m not clicking you. I’m not clicking your weird spam link. It’s
funny, if you could put yourself. So in the perfect world, what we would like is you to get your own show. But if you could put your family on a show, what show would it be? I know you said you don’t watch reality show. What’s popping? Would you do a Real Housewives of Beverly Hills or even OC
No, I would rather do a host a dating type competition show, or like Heidi and Heidi and I are one of the only real love stories in this town, and there’s so many relationship shows, and I just don’t Nicholas shame, yeah, so whatever. No comment. I don’t want to we see them at Disney on Ice. They’re very they smile, but not that show, a nice dating show on ABC Hulu, Disney would be a lovely I think that would make the most sense. I think the audience would be like, yeah, they know how to do a relationship on TV.
So I think if you’re on a show like that, what would you and Heidi tell people, what are the keys to making because, listen, I’m married. I’m with my husband, as long as you and Heidi are together, but we’re obviously private people, so we’re civilians, as you say. So what’s the key to making a marriage last in Hollywood,
it’s the same as making a hit last off camera. You have to be each other’s teammate, and you can’t number one. So no matter what other factors that are now added and all these weird how severe level life you can’t so there is no difference. That’s why it’s a it’s exactly that. Why are people unable
to do it in Hollywood? Do you think because they just get too talented? Real, a
real love isn’t going to get broken up because of a show or, you know, yeah, yeah, marriages mirrors just did through way harder things in the real world,
true, 100% and people now date each other just to get ahead in life. It’s not a real
relationship. Yeah, there’s all sorts. There’s a million. I We can’t be on like a housewives, first off, because of our Andy and I have be forever, because he never danced to Heidi song as an apology. So I could never be on, bravo, even if they wanted us, but really, they don’t. So I’m not, I don’t care. But so. Shout Out. Alex Baskin, I love all your shows. I love the valley, Alex and I love Housewives of Beverly Hills. But we don’t. We don’t have enough of our own. You need to be have a bad relationship like we the problem is like, when it comes like relationship shows, like we
are boring, but you could certainly do similar to what and again, I think this is going to be on. Bravo. But like Kristen Cavallari did, where they follow her podcast tour, like they could follow you and Heidi with her live shows,
I will tell you, if you think I haven’t told every person that owns a camera and a television network, I’m available for whatever, then you are a silly goose.
So because you can make drama, the drama won’t have to be with your wife. You can make drama with the your wife’s management team.
I don’t fit into a housewives model, right?
That model, I guess
I that. I don’t. We could, obviously, but it’s just they don’t pay enough money to make it to go yellow with these people. You know what? I mean? Totally. Yeah, good for all the people it does. If you’ve been on for 18 seasons, it makes sense for Kyle to lose a marriage on it, who,
by the way, had crystals with her on the reunion to give her strength. I
don’t think, I don’t think they’re working. They’re not That’s
amazing, in your opinion. Like, who do you think is the most underrated reality star of all time besides you and Heidi, she’s
no longer underrated, but my favorite reality star, that’s just that I never had any doubt in being such a legend, because ever since we did, we watched her before we had a show with her. But Natalie Nunn from the baddies, is a true pioneer, just power business woman, and what she’s been able to accomplish with her own empire, she’s like my favorite, obviously, what Kim, even though I’m a Swifty, and now I feel like Kim was soon enough, gonna apologize to Taylor, and I’ll be able to say more positive things about the Kardashians. But what she’s been able to accomplish and the Kardashians, I know we’re talking underrated, but I only really care about the people that have made it, because you’re not underrated, if you’re underrated, you didn’t make it. So it was like, I only Are you friendly with the Kardashians? I love rich, famous people turning down an invite to their party. Of course not. Obviously. I hope her and Taylor can work things out, but Taylor hasn’t reached out in a while, so I’m open for new relationships.
So you have so many things going on. Is there anything you want to share while we have you on any new thing, not just you’re working on?
Just, Please, God, watch this show and make it a hit because if it’s a hit show, a lot of things open up for the Pratt family that following week. I’m pretty
sure. Yeah, it is a hit show. It’s a hit show. Tracy watched the whole thing. I didn’t trust myself to watch it and not spoil it. So I was like, I watched the first two episodes, and then I was like, I’m gonna say something that we’re gonna have to cut out and be annoying. So I’m not gonna do that. I watched it, but I loved it. It was hard not to. It’s very exciting. First of all, you guys got a really nice house, like, I’ve watched House of Villains, which you were on, right? You
No, they played me so hard on this. Let me, let me tell you, this is a great story.
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I just was had a baby, like, I want to say, two days before, and they were trying to cast me for that. First off, I’m not a villain. I’m not like you. You want me to be under that banner. You got to pay a lot of money, because I’m a good person that is entertaining on TV, but I’m not a villain. You have to pay. To make me say I’m a villain. You know what? I mean, that’s I’m not. Like, like, that’s not who I am. So I said no. First for that two guy, you just had a baby, and they were like, fighting me to come on. And they were like, freaking out. They can deny whatever they want. We have so many emails. And then so I was like, I can’t do the show. First off, the money was embarrassingly low for leave your newborn baby for 14 days to go also be on a show and be negative, like with negative people, low vibrational frequency type energy. And so after that, they’re like, Okay, Joel McHale is going to be out of town. Can we pay you to host? And they offered me more money to host pretty much than to be on the show for 14 days. Pretty much the same. I was like, what? Of course. So then the way they I go in, and it’s not like a host, they have me, like, in the show. I’m like, This is so weird. It’s like, they just threw me in the house and, like, I imagine a host, you come in as, like, episode like, hey, they’re just, like, breaking into the house like one of these villains, like showing up, and then they got all these people saying negative things about me, and they cut the trailer like nobody knows who he is. All these nobody knows who I am. Why’d you send 50 emails to try to get me to be so it was very distasteful how I felt like I was treated. So I didn’t really appreciate that. But yeah, that house was nothing. The house in Canada was phenomenal.
Oh, it was in Canada. Oh, next I was like, this house was It was gorgeous? Yeah, that pool. One more question, because you guys are going to see it on the show when they try to break out of the house. There’s a bunch of Lamborghinis parked, and they’re very hard to drive, have you? But I feel like you’re a rich kid from Malibu, so you probably driven a Lamborghini. Was it? It’s a Lamborghini.
I’m actually not a rich kid from Malibu, but your friends were I’m actually from Palisades. Big difference. I No, I’ve never driven a
Lamborghini. And was it? Is it a stick shift? Is that why it was hard?
I didn’t even get to go inside. Oh, we’re not allowed. No, man, I never got to go inside the car. I have no idea they look pretty easy. It looked like they just pushed the
button that’s what I’m saying there. I the first episode. They were making it sound like it was hard. And I’m like, unless it’s a stick shift and shit, for a million dollars, I could figure out how to drive a stick shift real quick. I
didn’t want to leave the house because I wanted to stay on Hulu. So it was a weird thing, like, I wouldn’t even have broke out for 100 grand. Yeah, what’s that to you? No, I’d rather be on a hit show for eight episodes. So space, think about 100 grand taxes, agent, manager, lawyer. It’s like, I’ll stay on this TV show. So
you got no fee for the show. It’s only what you
want. No, I got a fee.
I’m sure our followers and listeners are already following you, but let them know where they can. Yeah, forget
following me. Just please any of the way you listen to music, just add Heidi’s music. Just search Heidi Montag, add it to your playlist, and just play it once on low volume. You don’t even have to like it just one time. They just, let’s check the little AI, so maybe you end up liking it in grape. If you are, you’re like, that’s not my type of music. That’s great. It’s
definitely trending on Tiktok, because my all my kids, I hear it, i They’re my daughter’s doing her little videos to it. So I had my three year old son dancing. So
there you go. So that’s all. It’s beyond crazy helpful. It’s so simple as just adding to these playlists and just adding it to your library, because then it tells these because it’s all AI. All this whole music world is just AI. So
solania is good timing, because your fan base all are people like us who are your age or about your age, and they will have kids who are on those apps. And Spencer, thank you so much for joining us. And thank you Taylor’s you do not want to miss Spencer on. Got to get out. It will be streaming. All eight episodes will be available on Hulu April 11. Oh, nice, sir. Thanks. This was so great. Thank you. Cheers to you. Heidi and the boys, yes.