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One of this week’s plot points on Winter House centered on a blind from Cocktail Party – are we the drama? The Vanderpump Rules trailer really brought it – we break down some of the shocking previews. What does schadenfreude mean? B and Amanda go on a tangent about spray tans. Who’s really behind the DMs on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? We share the email that was previously posted only in Cocktail Party. And was there another hookup in the Southern Charm crew that’s been kept a secret? Well, we got a blind about it and of course we share it with you.

welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds, and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com. And as always, is all alleged and just for fun. We do not verify our blinds. V. And I’m Amanda, let’s get into this week’s tip
What’s up cat tailors? Hey, cat tailors. Hey, the high amount so how are like, holidays? How’s everything going with you? Okay, so how everything’s going with me? And if you have a cocktail cipet If
is I have more boxes than I know what to do with and they’re all hidden and I don’t know what’s in them. And I just keep checking my Amazon and other places I’ve ordered from which is to mostly Amazon, but like Nike, for my son and whatever. Like remind myself of what I bought and like add it to the list. And do you like pull everything out? And kind of look make sure like the kids are kind of getting not necessarily an equal amount of presents, but like equal? Yeah, you know, I definitely try to do equal. So I’m very lucky. I think that a lot of people are gonna be jealous about this. Don’t be too jealous. I when we first had kids, okay, I grew up. My parents, I may have said this on last year’s Pogs. I feel like I did, but I’m saying it again. My parents were not robbers. So there was one side of the living room for me and one side of the living room for my brother. And we walked out and we saw all our all of our presents. Okay, that’s how I grew up. That’s my norm. So my husband grew up with wrapped presents. So I said to him, like, I work, I’m running around. I’m typically the one buying most of the stuff like, I’m interested in wrapping him. He was very opposed to having unwrapped gifts. So my husband wrapped all of the presents in I was gonna say, so you didn’t share this last year. So I love I like hearing this. I say people are jealous because I feel like usually that’s like the mom or the woman’s job. But yeah, my case if that were my job, it just wouldn’t get done because I don’t place a priority on it. Yeah, I mean, there’s been so many times I’ve spent a lot of time on Christmas Eve doing it. But there’s a lot of families when Santa comes Santa does not wrap the presents, right? But then the other presidents from parents and family and friends and one of our our wrap so that’s like a little happy medium. Maybe that’s another variation on it. I’ve heard that one. I also if there’s any young parents out there something that I always told my kids just because if they go to school and they’re like I got an x box and I got this and I got it that I didn’t want anyone any other child
too, and I’m not saying my kids get all those things. I’m just saying like, we know that not everybody gets the same amount of gifts. So I would always tell my kids that mommy and daddy provide the budget. Like I would say, when they were little, like, I give the money to Santa. And I didn’t do that like to get credit, which, right? It’s great from that angle to because we do deserve the credit. We work hard for that. Yes, I did it more from the point of I didn’t want them to show up with like, Oh, I got five new video games, and maybe somebody in their class or whatever. Like, only got like, whatever, one gift. And so then I would think, Oh, they must be bad, right? Because we teach our kids if you’re good. You get Santa is good to you. And I was like, well, it also depends on how much money the parents give Santa. Yeah, that’s smart. Yeah. And so don’t go to school and brag, or whatever. Because not everybody has the same, you know? Yeah, budget. I like that. I like that. Well, I am a little farther than you have and have pulled things out of boxes, and then re hid them. And I am hoping to do some rapping this weekend.
So yeah, we usually, like at night. We’ll wrap like, next week, we’ll start that you are, since my husband sometimes can work from home as the kids have gotten a little bit older, because you know, they never freakin go to bed. he’ll, he’ll do it. Like, during his workday, like between calls. He’ll get some of it done. Yeah. Yeah, that’s nice. But
we’re not doing it all in like our son has more than our daughter has. Yeah. What are a couple more things quick? Yes, my daughter sent me a notes. You know, in the Notes app and the iPhone. She sent me notes that she just updated for her Christmas list. And she added Taylor Swift arrows to our tickets. Oh, yes, we have those those are not being fulfilled.
Or like, oh, my gosh, my daughter, so told me that she looked, and we could see there’s several places in South America in Europe where tickets are available Amanda’s Oh, problem, you know, oh, I’m just looking at her. And I’m like, on the one hand, I’m so happy that my children are fortunate enough to live in a world where they think it’s possible.
But also, Are you freezing?
Yeah, no, no problem. Let’s get like $1,000 tickets to Buenos Aires and go see Taylor Swift. Yeah, let me just call Fanta about that. Yeah.
Okay, well,
winter house, I wanted to start there because our scoop from cocktail party was featured on this week’s episode of winter house. So we were getting a lot of Intel while they were filming. And I know we made that master thread with all the posts on it. I reposted the master thread for for everybody to read. So production. I love I love you guys. You were like, Wait, did they break the rules of your subscription? Because that was a cocktail post production reached out and asked permission always to use because you know, our website, it’s ours we own whatever. So obviously, I say yes. The same way they asked if they could use our stuff at Bravo cot. Like, they asked if they don’t always use it, though, when they ask because they’ve asked me many times and they’ve used it several times, but not always. So I honestly forgot. And actually Larry messaged me, and he’s like, Be, are you watching winter house and I was watching it. But I had paused it for a minute. So it was a couple you know, sometimes you’re limited by nine. Yeah. So I was like, oh, so that I it was very cool. And not only did they use it, but like, I mean, I’d like to production credit, you know it wouldn’t.
Because then we saw Kyle and Amanda and Danielle and Kyle’s like when did that blind? Come out? Yeah. And because that’s why that service like oh my god, we’re like a plotline. It was a plot point for sure. I mean, by the way, the fact that you didn’t get credit for the warrior video, right? I mean, that was one of his I don’t think that they actually show it. Well, here’s the thing. Notice, they did ask for my permission, but the reason that they didn’t credit me is because my understanding is they didn’t show it I think somehow legally they were blocked by Louie from showing it. So they just showed like, not him but like sort of like a like scene of like shadows on a boat shouting kind of thing. It was like a reenactment type thing, but I don’t get on it allowed. The other thing is, I guess Potomac production.
Didn’t doesn’t love us because they also reenacted the nail salon scene rather than our own was our picture. But again, that could be a situation where Robert and Juan were like, No, you may not use, or maybe one had that woman be like, you may not use my likeness on camera. So even though I covered her face because she’s not a public person, and you know, my rule, that may have been a legal issue, too, they may have, they must have fought and I’m sure they did fight using it now that I’m thinking about it. So they did a reenactment of a nail salon, which was actually freaking hysterical.
While I have to shout out to the cocktail errs, who were like, wait a second, isn’t this a violation of the policy? Like, I love that, that you guys, like are so big on keeping in cocktail party. So state what, what happens there stays there. So thanks for watching out for us guys. So the blind know for if you haven’t watched the show yet, was about Malia and Cory, that they’re vibing. Right. And what I think is really interesting, because there is a scene to it. We’ll talk a little bit more about but you know, the spline there’s discussions, there’s a lot that I think happens as a result of that. But Malia keep saying it’s all about the little sister vibes, right?
I don’t know. I just, I find myself wondering. Like, if it’s she’s all about being that little sister. Why is it she wrestling with Kyle? Why isn’t she wrestling with Brian? Just Cory? Like, I don’t I don’t know. I think there’s a little something there. Okay, so at the beginning, she was very open that she was attracted to him. And he was pretty ambiguous about his situation. Right ship. He said he was seeing somebody but that they were an official.
I agree with you. And as a matter of fact, I just saw the winter house reunion trailer a couple hours ago. And I believe it was Jordan said that something happened with him and Malia off camera and you see Sam upset in the trailer. And you see Malia shouting and Cory says to Malia at the reunion, like if I wanted to, you know, sleep with you have sex with you. I could have and she was like, No, you couldn’t. No, you could it. And one of the girls, not Sam. Maybe it was Danielle said yeah. If it was just a friendly thing, then why weren’t you spitting your shot in Kyle’s mouth and you see Amanda’s face like, because Amanda was very much on the train. Oh, it’s big sister. But it’s like, that wouldn’t be cool. If it was Kyle and I get they’re married. But you can’t say little sister Big Brother. If it’s something you wouldn’t be comfortable being done with your partner. So watching the summer house crew, Amanda, Danielle and Kyle talk about the blind. It was obviously clear that Malia knew Sam was suspicious of her right. Everybody knew about that blind. Right? Immediately within 20 minutes of Sam’s arrival. She’s tackling Cory in the snow and mounting him and end I would like to say he was not pushing her off. Not us Shire? Yeah, it was like very flirtatious. It was dry humping. I think it was fucked up. She was, in my opinion, trying to get Sam jealous. But ultimately, Cory was the person who should have shut it down. Right? Except when Malia jumped on him. You know, somebody also pointed out that they always had that energy.
I don’t know Malia and Cory. Yeah. And I don’t know. I think my opinion is maybe something happened off camera. I don’t mean they slept together. But maybe there was a little makeout session or something. And that’s why Malia was inclined to like, rub it in Sam’s face. Yeah. I don’t know it. It felt like Malia was also being weirdly possessive. Like, when Sam came to, I don’t know, obviously, like, at the reunion, which I’m not sure if she just pops in our weapon, the clip I saw, she was like crying and she said she was very unhappy with Corey. It wasn’t those. She didn’t just take it out on Malia. So it leads me to believe that like Corey said to her like, listen, I did make out with Malia because like, you have to come clean. You know, there’s going to be a reunion. You never know what they’re going to put in the footage. He may have gotten away with it. And they didn’t put it in. But he had no way of knowing. Right? Yeah. Or they didn’t get it on camera. He had no way of knowing that Malia wouldn’t have said it in a confessional or one of the other people on the cast in a confessional. Oh, please. We all know they made out.
Yeah, you know? Yeah, no, I think you’re right. And they don’t know where all the cameras are. I don’t think so. Right in the house. And and also you’re drunk, like, yeah, and I think somebody said they were showrooming so like, who’s remembering everything? Oh, one of our cocktails said that last night? Yes. That’s Yes. Where’s the zoom, which was a very fun zoom. It was a fun one. Okay, what about
Danielle and Alex like what are your thoughts on this whole such?
I mean, yikes. All around, but my focus is I really didn’t like Danielle’s conversation with Jordan. I don’t like the upcoming scene where she’s in Jordan’s face yelling like I see what you’re doing you’re crossing a line like Jordans not your home girl. You guys she’s not from summer house you guys literally just met she owes you nothing. Especially after the way you spoke to her when you said you pretty low energy because none of the guys are into you. I love the Jordan was like, actually they over into me she can chat and Alex Yeah, by the way. The other thing Jordan said she was like I would never let what’s going on with a dude essentially like affects my energy anyway. Which I just love her. I love her very wise lady. She is and I think that the way Danielle is treating her is making her be a little flirty with Alex
Yeah, like she’s almost just doing it to fuck with her and just in a general way like Danielle is just thinking she could just boss people around. I guess it was like a joke with the Brian Benny but she’s a bad drunk. She’s no slouch from zero like normal to like pissed or crying or whatever real quick. She flips the switch. And I have to tell you and you and I have said many times that you know when we go on girls trips or whatever we do our mimosas but I because of an email I got regarding her drinking. I pay close attention I think but I don’t know if you notice in summer house and in winter house every morning she starts the day with a beverage
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now I get it. You’re on vacation but every morning she’s having a beer or she’s having a lover boy or she’s having something like that. So yeah, I feel I might have a mimosa one day but I’m not having one every day I’m not cracking a beer open. Yeah and in the morning and I I don’t remember it from all seasons because remember, she worked a lot in previous seasons but definitely this past season. I noticed it on summer house and definitely a winter house like nobody else is drinking and she’s having a beer and I think I feel hesitant to mention that because I don’t want to shame people when everyone’s in the house partying but something about her drinking sticks out to me. And also the way she behaves like she gets very bossy very aggressive. Yeah, she speaks like the way she was speaking to Brian Benny the way she was speaking to Jordan the way I mean Alex whatever he deserves it because he’s a deck who’s leading her on well I don’t even know if he’s leading her on because you saying whatever. It also made me realize like her personality is much more similar to Lindsay’s that I guess I ever realized in her like aggressive bossy way. Yeah, I I’m just I’m kind of embarrassed for her. I feel like there’s like a little bit of an air of desperation about our in the way that she
He is acting, especially in just the way that she acts around alixe, which is like, I mean, I don’t want you screwing anybody else and I’m so mad at you. But then Oh, come, you know, we can still have sex. But wait, you can’t you know, like, she’s just all she’s erratic and all over the place. Do you know, we’re staying in the clip and I don’t think you’ve seen it yet. In the winter house reunion clip, I expected her to kind of be like, listen, I was wasted. I was partying. I had cabin fever. I had just got out of a relationship. She kind of doubles down on everything she was saying during the season. She’s like, and you did it. And I’m like, oh, and Alex is just sitting there like, Oh, God, I hope I never have to see this woman again. One thing I didn’t like, is when she said to the team, and he’s like, I don’t think I can teach you anything. You’re a decade older than me. I thought that was very uncool. I don’t like men age shaming women. You know what I liked? And not that we really share a lot of details from our zooms and cocktail party, because you’ve just got to be there. But one of the cocktail hours said this, and I was like, Oh my God, she’s so right. She’s like, I have had to stop watching the first seven minutes of like, the next episode. She’s like, then I’m getting confused about what I’ve seen and what I haven’t seen in which episode is happening. And I was asked, Oh my God, that’s so true. Because like I found myself last night where we’re talking about the Jordan and Danielle thing. I was getting confused. I’m like, is it in the clip? Or is it was it in the show that I watched right last night? So as much as I enjoy it, especially like with Beverly Hills, I’m always watching the the first seven minutes but it does get a little bit confusing. Totally. Okay, so speaking of trailers Vanderpump Rules trailer launched this week. Let’s start with Tom Schwartz, sharing that he made out with Cina in Vegas.
Okay, my immediate reaction the second he said that was this guy has some set of bulls on him. Talk about wanting attention and being thirsty. I think it bothers me. I remember before scannable I clearly remember like saying on the pod like both of the times always rubbed me the wrong way. I think Sandoval was more obviously narcissistic and full of himself. But I always believe that the other time was just as bad. And this is such a good example because this is gonna make you look bad. It’s gonna make Sheena look bad. It’s once again disrespecting your ex wife, but you don’t care because it’s a great storyline. And it’s going to make you interesting, and it’s going to secure you airtime right? So that’s my initial reaction. Now, there is some rumor floating that he was talking about the Tino lookalike what I can tell you and we share this in cocktail party immediately after is that a source confirmed to me that it was real sheen. I wasn’t a lookalike in Vegas. Katie and Schwartz. Were not married when Sheena and Schwartz made out and it was a long time ago. But clearly, Katie and Schwartz were dating because they’d been together. They weren’t not they’re not together now, but they were together 12 years. So is it that Sheena it was during the time period? She wasn’t friends with them. I’m gonna go ahead and assume she’s still dead wrong. You and I wouldn’t. She had slept with a married man to I don’t think she had a lot of a lot of scruples back in the day. And we’ve never been fans of Shishu
she’s Amanda’s bitchu eats crackers. Yes, maybe etc. And then with scannable I think we were okay with her because she rallied behind Ariana and she was accused of stuff that she we don’t believe she was guilty of by both Tom Sandoval and Raquel. But now she’s doing these interviews saying how hard Ariana and Tom’s breakup was for her. I get I’m back to bitch eating crackers. Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, you’re in good company.
Just making this whole thing about her and then crying about it. I mean, there’s, I don’t know, there’s very few things in life that I like, cry about. And I just that’s just it’s it’s so overly dramatic. And it’s so it’s just why she is maybe you see? Well, because you don’t cry about things because you handle yourself in a way that you’re proud of. And when you do things that you know, like Sheena does when somebody like Sheena operates in the way she operates, she cries to elicit sympathy because she knows that she’s on the wrong side of situations. Yeah. And so being pathetic and making yourself a victim is far easier than saying whatever I just do what’s best for me
You take it or leave it. That is very manipulative. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Hi. And yeah, unlike good if she’s manipulative and she’s also like not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so it doesn’t really work for her. Yeah, I agree. Okay, so it looks like there are some divides forming within the girls. So, we’ve been getting a lot of questions about this. So yes, the facts are Lala did not attend Dancing with the Stars, nor did she post to vote for Ariana at all during the season. So we sort of knew things were not great. I don’t think there was some huge Fallout right, but certainly, it seems that Katie and Ariana are a team and then Lala and Sheena.
I think I do think that they’re both jealous of Ariana as opportunities as a result of being cheated on. And I can understand, like, the frustration even fans are frustrated. I’ve had people message me showing some resentment for Ariados opportunities like enough already a high. Why are people frustrated? I don’t get it.
I don’t know. I don’t know. But they are. I think it’s jealousy, envy. Why should she have this? What’s so great about her? You know, it’s people but people see it like, she has all these deals because she was cheated on. But my counter to them is like what was she supposed to do? Should she deny these amazing opportunities, Dancing with the Stars, Broadway, a variety of partnerships where she made bank. The other thing and I want to say I like Lala, I think Lala has come a long way. Okay. Lana left Randall when she found out that he was cheating on her and a variety of other nefarious things he was involved in. She was super strong for doing that. She’s a great mom who Sped up After investing billions to light up our network. T Mobile is America’s largest 5g network. Plus right now you can switch keep your phone and we’ll pay it off up to $800 See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT and T AT T mobile.com/across. America
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Like you saw her dance on Dancing with the Stars, she’s got talent. So it’s not like, people just handed her shit on a platter. And we’re like, Here you go. She, she had to work for it. And she continued to work for it. And it was a great opportunity for her to work hard, but also showcase her talent. Right? Absolutely. And I think I think there’s a part of Lala that does try to rewrite history, right. She enjoyed the lifestyle. So she chose to look away from things. I mean, the timing that she left him is right around the time that it became public. He was broke. So what came first the chicken or the egg? Yeah, you know, she does. She does have a baby with this bad guy. And it isn’t an easy situation.
So I have sympathy for her. And I don’t necessarily think she’s like anti Ariana. I just think that she pointed out like, Oh, God, like, if you’re Lala and Ariana is just getting all the sympathy and you really got none. It’s got to sting a little so yes, it’s I think and from what I can see what Lala saying is that that you know, she got cheated on and then Ariana got cheated on and then treated like a god right and I think he I think that’s what’s really getting to Lala more now that the opportunities in the way that Ariana was elevated up on this very very, very high pedestal whereas La La Yes, people were sympathetic with her but the level of Queen Ariana right madness to at all to follow it through. It’s very different to ours credit, she did get herself sober and I certainly think she matured a lot. So yeah, I think it is what you’re saying. Like more like, okay, yes, it sucks for Ariana, but like, I’ve made a lot of progress too. So I yeah, I don’t think I just Yeah, I don’t think it’s a I’m gonna say this word wrong guys. So just bear with me, but it’s not as Schaden, Freud.
kind of situation right again. Okay, so shot short and forage shot shot in Freud. It is a term that I think so what it means is when people take pleasure out of seeing other people in pain now or I bad things happen to other people. I don’t think that that kind of thing. I think Lala, very much was upset for for Ariana, and very much wanted to support her when it went down. 100% 100% And I also think, that Lala to steal your term is a flawed person, but I think LoL is a good person. She’s very good to her daughter. She’s very good to her mom. She’s very good to her brother. I think that she’s a good person with good intentions, who was making it in Hollywood and try to find our way and she did some shitty things along the way, but I don’t think she’s a shitty person. Totally agree and people grow up, right.
Okay, so we then see in the trailer that there may be some kind of love triangle happening with this girl with this like bright pink stripe hair with Tom Schwartz and with Katie Maloney. She is I think, a 22 year old who is apparently an aspiring singer and is a friend of Sheena’s younger sister.
I mean random but spicy.
Overall, I think the trailer shows that season is going to be absolutely amazing. I know people were very worried it would be boring or spoiled because so many pictures were circulated and you know they’re all on their pods talking but clearly they kept plenty hidden. Yeah, it does beg the question, Amanda. I did not think of Rachel let alone miss her at all during the trailer. I pulled in 95% of Bravo and cocktail. Didn’t miss her either. Your thoughts on I am a jolt Do not miss her vanilla presents. Are her baby boys. I am really happy to just say bye bye to her. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wanted to come back next season. Yeah. And it’s funny because like, would they even want her? Why? Where would that hole or that fit in? I don’t know. Right. Okay, so I think you watch Salt Lake City. Okay, so cocktail hours. I first just want to start out with a little public service announcement. I love love a spray tan before I go to like a beach vacation in the winter. I like to get what I call like an aggressive level
of spray to like the aggressive Mexico spray tan, right? Yes, but ladies, like hear me now. Believe me later, dude.
I get the same level of aggressive tan on your face.
Like you gotta go like 50% or less on your face because if you go with the same level that you have on the rest of your skin, it’s just gonna look orange and it changes the way all of your makeup is gonna look. And like I mean, I really wish that we could have had this little chats with Whitney and Monica before they went to Bermuda. i It was so distracting to men Lisa, God loves families, like five seasons in and the girl has not learned how to get a spray tan properly. Yeah, well apparently she’s been getting kicked out of places. You probably tried to not do her so dark and she was like make me look streaky by the Fokker I like so I go when I go
so weird. I go I go to a place where like you’re stripped out and a lady paints yo. Yeah. Because he’s like, I don’t want it to look. I’ve been to the place where you like walk into the shower stall and do it and like, like, I need somebody to like tastefully do my face and then do the aggressive level on the rest of my body? Do you do do spray tans before vacations? I have to tell you I’m not doing them as long as most people because I really shouldn’t admit this but I can very nicely you know, I’m Italian. Yeah, I’m only half Italian but I can very nicely so I a spray tan kind of prohibits you when you’re on the beach from tanning, which is like a good thing. I know SPF. I know, I’m working on it. But I do now but for many years I didn’t because I would just I’m the type like if I get down to the beach, I won’t put lotion on for a couple hours. My tangled spark bam. And I put some lotion on and I’m good. Yeah, no. Oh, yeah. Again, I don’t advise it young girls lotion up. Because, you know, paying for it. Yes. Get the spray tan for sure. Yeah, because what I do now and I get sprayed, I don’t go into the booth because yeah, whatever. And the other thing that I learned when I started going spray tan is you know that initial hitting the beach before you have a tan like you don’t look as good and something about the spray tan I don’t know if they’re etching ABS or whatever. But belly looks so much nicer with the spray tan and even a real tan 100% site and that’s why I do it. Like I just feel more confident in a swimsuit to have is you know, to not have my middle of the winter skin you know, because I wear sunscreen a lot of sunscreen but you still pick up a little bit of of sun like over the summer or whatever. But I don’t have it when I was middle of the winter now. So anyway, PSA over but ladies, listen. Listen, listen to your friends be an Amanda who knows this. Yeah, and I don’t spray tan my face. Like I do a little but also like I don’t, I’m actually thinking because I’m going after the day after Christmas to Florida, and I want to get a spray tan and I don’t even know if I’m going to do my face because sometimes like I just feel like it’s not good for our skin. I’m trying to take care of my skin after so many years are abusing it. And like I’m doing all of this. The under eye gels, the snail serum, the all this stuff and then I’m gonna put spray tan on my face to like seep in. Yeah, you can always just do a little bronzer. Right that sometimes I do that. Like I’ll usually do like I usually think say I think I say like 25% on my face and then full and Belinda on Yes.
Yes. Okay. So, back to what we do best, which is talking about housewives. Okay, so Monica in Bermuda, who I think decides that. She and Lisa are now be FFC and she’s going to confide in her. So she goes and tells Lisa that Meredith told her that Angie was in the Greek mafia that Meredith also called her and said check your DMS and that when Monica checked her DMs there are messages with documents showing that Angie owed $170,000 to the IRS and then let me see how we did get an email about this. So let me let me read it to you guys. This was in actually in cocktail party, but we’ll share it here SLC scoop, subject wait for it. Keep watching SLC right now it might seem Meredith is the one who sent the DMS and started the rumors. But as the episodes go on, you will see that the ladies don’t believe that after all is said and done. The assumption is it was Monica. Far from all she’s done to them. I think like she’s done more than just send DMS to herself. Yes. So the email makes sense. So watching the episode did see like it was Meredith but Marathas very intense.
collagen, even if she wanted to expose Angie, would she trust Monica to do it with her? doesn’t really make sense. She’s also a seasoned housewife. So the other housewives are like you did this with Lisa. She denies it. Let’s say she did do it with Lisa, would you do the same exact thing again, when that’d be obvious men who would do so? On the one hand who would DM Monica when she wasn’t even publicly confirmed. However, when somebody reached out and said to me, which actually makes sense is in Salt Lake City, people knew she was filming and obviously it’d be a local person who would have dirt on and Jen, we knew we knew she was filming like we get right we get the key on an encounter accounts like us and our contemporary share that she was filming. So yeah, I just think it would be too obvious for Meredith and then on top of it, for her to call her and tell her to check her DMs stop. Like to the point that Monica was not yet a housewife. She also was not yet getting flooded with DMS that she would have missed the DM I have a lot. Oh, you know, well over 150,000 followers, and I see all my DMs. So you know what I mean? Yeah, I got this has monocle written all over it personally. And then this email backs that up. So I don’t know. Yeah, I mean, if it if it weren’t for the email, my first thought would be I just don’t know if Mark Monica is smart enough to pull it off. Even though yes, we know that she worked with Jen Shaw. And, you know, yeah, we knew that she was filming. And I’m not saying that. I don’t think she would do because I do. I just don’t know that she would be like, Okay, before she’s even met everybody like I am when I go for America before she even starts filming. I don’t know. But I mean, whoever wrote the email, you know, must know more than I do. So I guess we’ll see. Yeah, I can we’re gonna find out what this what what Heather, and they’re a freaking out about on the balcony. Yeah. And there’s like, nobody was speaking to her Bravo con. Nobody is speaking to her at all. So she’s getting exposed. Whether we see all of it or some of it is stuff she did after the season where they found out after this, like, you know what I mean? Yeah, something’s up yet that said, Does Meredith want to take down Angie? Yeah. So it’s all things are possible. But why I still don’t get it. I don’t there’s some your you brought it up last night. And there’s there’s some kind of deep seated something there between those two. It could also just be jealousy, because Angie does legitimately own tons of salons lives in a huge home, which she owns. Yeah, so you know, yeah. But I have to say, kudos to the editors when they put Angie the dawn kiss TV, whatever, however you say, yeah, he has to do with cats and avis. I
like she’s like struggling to just stay on top of the pool float. I loved it. And I also like Heather was like, I know, Angie, from high school. I know, family, like they’re not in the frickin mafia. Yeah, I didn’t even know there was a Greek mafia. So that was that was new information. Yeah, me. Um, it’s an underbelly to every every nationality. It’s not just us Italians. No, I feel like we need to start like a badass mom mafia. Yes. Like, I don’t know what we’re gonna do. And like, I don’t really like want to rough anybody up or anything. But like, I wouldn’t mind the badass reputation. We could get jackets.
Like people 80s Or like biker gang.
Or between me somewhere between maybe pink leather jackets. I love it. Oh, there’s a roll roll call us we’ll have to get fake. Thanks.
I have you. It’s like you’re in my head. I have. I’ve been eyeing this like way too expensive leather jacket from use it. LaShawn sulla John’s I don’t know. Hot Pink leather. So cute. I have a pink leather. I love Pina leather and I do. years ago my mother in law got me a pink leather jacket. And it’s the sort of thing that you don’t wear much because pink leather. But you wear black often enough and I had it for years because I only wore you know a couple times a year. And I actually got myself another one because it was you know 10 years old or whatever. And I just love it. Because listen, you put on some black jeans or black whatever leggings, pants, Spanx, whatever black bottom, a black top. You throw on a pink leather jacket. You got an outfit? I love a statement jacket. Yeah, one 100% with you. Okay, let’s talk about Southern charm because we haven’t been chatting about it because we record on Thursdays and it shows on Thursday nights. So they are in Jamaica right now and I always love the trip episodes because they’re all in this like force togetherness situation. So what are you thinking? What do you think about? Well, you know, I have no
Love, Love Jamaica, my sister in law’s Jamaican. I’ve been a bunch. It’s a very special place for our family because my brother got married there. It’s the Jamaican culture is so fun that people are warm and the food is delicious. And we’re seeing all that. You see them loving and they can’t be like Oh, I love the spices in his food. Like it’s so funny because my kids are so used to it that like sometimes I cook stuff they’re like this isn’t spicy enough. It doesn’t have enough flavor. I’m like I’m not Jamaican Your aunt is Have you been to the falls? The waterfalls? Yes. Gorgeous. The cord. Yeah, I’ve been to Dunn’s River. I’ve been to one closer to new grill. Unless at Sandra, I’ve been to Rick’s cafe where there’s like you dry it. You will? Oh my god. Oh, that’s my jump off the cliff into the water. Right. Rick’s cafe? Yes. Yeah, I had a boat ride a couple of years ago. It was like the Rony boat ride where we all were going to die. Like the captain was wacko. Now my sister in law knows like she knows. You know, she’s from there. She grew up there. She moved here when he was 18 her family still lives there. So when we go there, we know everybody, but her friend’s boat whatever reason he wasn’t around so somebody said to her Oh, go with this guy. Like he’s so and so’s friend. So we go this guy. I don’t know what his story was. He was riding his boat. It was a rough day. Kids puking over the boat it was just a nightmare. I was like this is how it ends. This is how it ends. And then they were like ready to take us back and my sister in law is like absolutely not like she called her friends a bus driver so she he sent his like party van for us but
crazy That’s hilarious. I mean, thank god you guys are okay, but it’s funny now but now I’m like I’m never going on a boat again in anywhere their ratings are the highest they’ve ever been. So know that. Wow. Yes. It’s doing great. It’s it’s a great season I think. Yeah. And there’s some blind circulating about South East show getting canceled. Certainly not about them. The Austin Taylor thing is so annoying like she’s not even denying that they slept together when this page six article which side note we posted about that and Page Six posted after but when as it was on cocktail so you can violate our terms. I feel for Olivia because she’s not denying it. And then Austin is and everyone in the table is just looking at him like bro.
Well, unlike for Olivia two part of it to me is like a lot. Just tell us what happened. Like stop being so secretive about everything. Just let us know. So we can just move on. Right? I’m happy. She’s currently dating a hot wealthy guy from Dallas. She’s posting a few times on her Insta. I really like Olivia.
I take issue a little bit with the fact that she was so easy to warm back up to Austin, but not so much with Taylor. But now she’s mad at both of them. And I do think she makes a good point when she says like I expected it from him like I just never expected from Taylor showed two different portrayal and I also think too with Austin, they had their trauma bond right well yes. Both losing siblings and so I and how does that transfer one’s Taylor loses her brother I am so curious about that and how that’s all gonna play out. Yeah, but no, I agree. I really like Olivia and you know what I really like to is the guy that she’s dating. Based on the pictures at least seems very into her well yeah, I really like whether your car has small tires, big tires, tires that go fast tires with extra grip or tires that just get you from here to there. They can be an unexpected expense. Don’t wait any longer and big O tires we have no credit needed financing available. So no matter your budget No matter your situation we have the lowest prices on every kind of tire every day with multiple lending partners our financing is tailored to you with credit options Made Easy don’t wait another day take advantage of our good to know credit financing today. Big O tires done team you trust is
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salon.com jt annoys the shit out of me. And he just looks so pathetic, like chasing Taylor around. Yes. So I think JT annoys everyone on the cast.
To be honest, it’s so obvious that production was like, we’re hiring him. And they were all like, oh, like they know him. They see him around, but they don’t want to freak you to hang with him. Yeah.
I think, I don’t know if he was expressly told this is his job. He does a good job of moving things along and bringing things up. Right. Or she’s purpose. Yeah. So he does seem to be whether he was given the job or not. He seems to be fulfilling that role. But speaking of JT and being so into Taylor, we had an email that we shared in cocktail party this week, so let me read it. from Southern hook up. Subject. Yes, she hooked up with him. Our viewers wondering why the new guy on Southern charm is so willing to stand up for Peter Pan’s ex girlfriends that took me out.
It’s because he hooked up with her to she begged him not to say anything to anyone because she was already taking so much heat for sending her sexy pictures to the producer and hooking up with her BFFs ex boyfriend. But yes, she has also hooked up with the new in parentheses, annoying guy. See, even this email writer was excuse annoying.
It happens sometime in between the producer and the BFFs. Acts hope someone spilled that tea at the reunion because a few suspect it if they don’t have if they haven’t confirmed it by now. I don’t think anyone brought it up at the reunion. But I had actually, this was rumored so you know, emails can come in from anywhere but somebody felt inclined to draft this very funny letter. Thank you. Charleston stays undefeated. i
I heard when they traveled together apparently they traveled to Europe together or something like that. And she made him swear not to mention it on camera. I mean, with Whitney and Austin, she knew it would be a terrible look for her. To be clear. I am not slut shaming JT is single Have at it. Whitney is single Have at it. Even Austin is single. The part that bothers me is the friendship with Olivia. It’s also that Taylor has always been so self righteous. And that’s like what Madison was saying she can and should hook up with whoever she wants. She’s not my kind of girl. I like somebody like Madison, who says, I never denied being a slot. I’m just retired, like, and I’m not saying Taylor’s a slot. But you know, you act so buttoned up and holier than now you’re not so Drop the act. There’s nothing wrong with it with being who you are that halos hand pretty heavy lady. I did hear she had a very rough reunion, but I don’t think that the JT thing was mentioned. Oh, okay. Well, I agree with you. I mean, call it whatever you want girl code, whatever. I mean, just don’t see with your good friends X. Find another pool deficient for God’s sakes. Okay. Do you want to talk? So we’ve been getting a lot of stuff. We’ve been talking about this, I don’t know, couple months now about Atlanta. And all the speculation on what it’s going to look like. So we did just get another email from peach tea subject, all new peaches, the ATL will look very different this season with only one or two old peaches in the bunch. One very sweet one. And when switching teams, so I asked my source originally, this is the person who told me full reboot. What he said today was none of the women have been asked back yet. So nobody who was on the cast last season have been asked back yet. The source said I’ve spoke to three people connected to three current women from last season. And they’re all in the dark. They don’t know what’s going on. And there are absolutely no plans to cancel the show. They are rebooting slash retooling like New York. What he said to me was he heard early on they’re all out and he said, candy and Kenya are so expensive. He said candy means at least a million. If they reboot, they can pay new women like 50,000 a year or even let’s say they’re not fully new. They could pay them a lot less like Kenya and candy are not taking that. Well. Candy isn’t taking that. I don’t know. So Kenya’s divorce. Hallelujah. Congratulations is finally finalized. She posted something to her stories the other day and everyone was thinking oh, is this about Atlanta, but I was
Like Absolutely not, it’s got to be about her divorce because it was like closing a chapter on my leg, it was way more serious than a reality show ending or whatever. So, in the divorce filing, it shows that that loser ex of hers makes 5k a month, and she makes 50k him up. Now 50k A month is a lot of money. But I sort of feel like candy has a lot of businesses outside, right? All sorts of stuff. But in Kenya’s case, the show is really a vehicle to promote her hair, Caroline and other endeavors. So and she is a single mom, and 50k a month. Listen, it’s a ton of money. But is it walk away from Atlanta if they offer you 450 A season instead of 750 kind of money? To me, I don’t think that 50k A month is walk away from a price kind of right now if they brought it down to like 100, which when they want it to die. See, by the way, I know I agree. I mean, I’m happy we already had ya know, when they wanted to do on legacy, Roni. They literally took their salaries, which were huge. And we’re like, we’ll give you 100,000 for the season. And they were all like hell no. And they ended up ultimately getting more for the girls trip because they negotiated more. And it was such a shorter timeframe that they would have you know what I mean? In other words, yeah, but they cut them to like 150,000 where they were at, you know, much higher than that. Right? So unless they did something and if they’re only keeping Kenya and then bringing in new do they have to cut her that much? Like I could see candy walking away from a cup, but do you think Kenya would? I don’t know. I think it I guess it depends and who else is going to be in the cast and all of that. Like, back to that email? Who do we think they’re talking about? It says only one or two old peaches? One very sweet one and one switching teams. What’s the one switching teams B drew SIdora and she is now with women. Oh, that could certainly be who is the very sweet one? I mean, none of them. Sonya How would it be sign i At first I was like Well Could it be sweet tea from married to medicine to switching teams me in? Coming from married to medicine? I don’t know. I have to tell you married to medicine is so good. I’ve been enjoying it. I am so like a episode I think are too behind. But I did pick up the season because I had not watched before and more wide switching teams. Oh, right. I would like to see that. The interesting thing is that these women all live in Atlanta and there’s gotta be crossover in friendships. The same Edrick Phaedra was an I don’t know people are loving Phaedra on there. I love her. I think she has been a great addition.
A drill really could be because of the relationship with a female basketball player. Right? This people I’m looking at the comments on the post people think the sweetest one is candy could Nene. You know, I want to believe that Nene is coming back and I’m not saying we won’t see her on Bravo is Nene in a position where she takes a huge pay cut. She might be
I mean, okay, him and cry.
And all that video that TMZ shared where he’s like, shouting. So people asking CTE I had posted something from a long time ago saying that, apparently Kim and Kim is not somebody that you really take her word for anything. But I mean, she’s selling stuff now. That looks so fake. Like I can tell in a picture. It’s fake. And I am far from like a luxury goods expert. Yeah, it is. So it’s a DHD like, she showed the inside of a bag and the inside of the bag. The strap is wrapped in plastic. I’m sorry. Oh Ha ha ha ha. Like yeah, that’s a that’s a pretty clear sign of a fake. I don’t have a closet full but I have a Louis I have a Gucci right. So I have received them for presents. I have bought them. That doesn’t happen. But here’s the other thing. House do not is she she obviously has owned real luxury stuff. That’s how she lost her money buying stuff she couldn’t afford. Why wouldn’t you take the plastic off? If there’s anything inside? It’s wrapped in one of those cloth right? Yes, exactly. i Yes. But the video of him where he’s shouting that she’s fucking other man. Yeah. You know what is interesting about that video just so sad and so awful, but he is not slurring his words. He is doesn’t sound drunk. He is just he sounds sober as can be just Rayji
and that is why it’s the person who mentioned it and he might have CTE it was like God that could be that could be you know, and right. Thank you.
You know, and he had mentioned that he’s like one day where we’re staying together and the next day we’re getting a divorce. And like, I can also imagine if it is in I don’t know much about CTE. But if he slips in and out of these rages, then then it goes back to being the normal, lovable cry, how hard that would be from Kim’s perspective, right? Because she sees she sees the man that she fell in love with some days and then she sees the Rayji cry, I mean, that my heart just goes out to that family. I just hope somebody can go in and intervene and get them living in separate living situations and get those kids some stability sped up. After investing billions to light up our network T Mobile is America’s largest 5g network. Plus right now you can switch keep your phone and we’ll pay it off up to $800 See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT and T AT T mobile.com/across. America
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I don’t think Bravo wants her back. I just I mean she’s a nurse at this point.
Get a job as a nurse. A nurse is always a nurse you have your schooling. I don’t know if she’s an RN or an LPN, or what have you. But nurses make healthy salaries, get those kids rent an apartment, or rent a townhouse. And we also got a big papa email saham. Somebody reached out to me and said that
somebody they know is friends with big Papa’s kids. Hold on, let me try to pull it up. But this is what was interesting from it. Because I don’t know what the top of my head demands name. And I won’t say it, but if you Google it, it comes up. So
his wife clearly knows. And they’re still together.
The wife Yeah, hidden away. He’s still together.
Well, as we’ve learned, there’s a lot of people who stay together even when there’s a lot of infidelity and that kind of thing.
For whatever reasons they have if it’s money, if it’s security, if it’s Yeah, yeah, I just, yeah. Imagine how embarrassing that is for the kids. The to be big Papa’s kid. Yeah. Especially when Kim was apparently Daggy. Encouraged by big papa to be a country music singer. Oh, my God. Okay, so it says he and his wife got back together. So I guess they did split for a time. And the wife’s name, I think is Kim, MD.
Oh, dear. Oh, God. I just Yes. And I don’t know where they go. I don’t. You know, I shared that video. And I don’t think I think I’m just going to try to like not share it because it’s really disturbing to see because we know that they’re the oldest kid in that house is 12. Right? So it’s like a 12, a 10. And a couple of eights or nines like year olds, and their mom isn’t the most stable either. So you’re dealing with and then I don’t know where the older daughters are. I don’t think the oldest one is living there. Somehow she was in a picture with was it Bezos to Chappie or no Elon Musk. She met Elon Musk and she like reposted it. Oh, and I’m like an involved Kim must be like, have a baby get pregnant with Elon Musk.
She is. I’m sure that he I mean, he had the way that he’s having kids. And you know, he’s, anyway, I don’t. I think you’re 100% right? That even this is too messy for bravo to have her back. I just think
It’s, it’s gotten to the point where it’s not just messy. It’s tragic. 100% Like, I’m over it. I am not that I’m over it. That’s not the right word. I just think it’s too heavy at this point. And, you know, we wish them well. And I just hope that there’s a healthy resolution for the kids.
Not even worrying about their finances. Like, who cares. Kids don’t need mansions and kids don’t need Rolls Royces or whatever they drive kids need a stable parent, I just have one stable parent. So I really hope that one of them
hopefully both, but I hope that one of them gets together gets a job because they’re two able bodied people. While we don’t know with him, but yeah, she certainly wasn’t nurse and can be a nurse. So Right. Absolutely. Well, thanks, a Ayers. Thank you for tuning in. We know that it’s the busy season. Take a moment for yourselves, relax. I hope that maybe you’re doing it listening to us. I’m trying not to stress the holidays will happen. We’ll all survive. And sending love to anyone who’s struggling during the holidays, because I know it’s a tough time and can be a tough time and just pop on your favorite housewives show and forget about it. Exactly. We love you guys till next time.
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