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16. Exclusive RHOC filming tea; Larry from @BravobyGays joins the party

This week, we invite Larry from one of our favorite Instagram accounts, @bravobygays, to join the tea party and talk about all of the hottest Bravo topics. Starting out with tea about Tamra’s return to the OC – we’re hearing it’s not going as smoothly as hoped. Are some of the OC cast icing Tamra out? Which RHOBH cast members does Larry think shouldn’t come back next season? More on Scheana’s wedding – and the shadiness going on in Mexico. Larry’s got tea on Summer House and Winter House, and we put him on the spot to ask brings us some exclusive tea about Summer House and Winter House, and we put him on the spot, asking his real opinion about Bravolebrities, what celebrity tea has been most shocking to him. And we play Reasonable or Shady with Larry, a self-proclaimed Austen fan, with questions submitted to us by Cocktailers.

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Okay. Not only is Bravo not paying for Brock and Sheena’s wedding not paying in any capacity, but when they found out that some of the cast isn’t going, they weren’t even going to film it.

B (00:00:21):

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Amanda (00:00:40):

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Amanda (00:02:14):

And I’m Amanda. Let’s get into it this week. So some fun scoop on Vander pump rules this week. I know a lot of us really weren’t even sure if it was coming back. At one point we lost some of the kind of standout characters while not characters, people like Stassi and Kristen and jacks, they were all kind of let go from the show. And then I think I told you, like, I didn’t even watch the last season cuz I was like, I, these people just didn’t get my attention, but we have talked about this. We know that they’re filming. And then I know that you just got some like hot off the presses tea, hot

B (00:02:55):

Off the presses. So yes they’re filming. I know that, you know, know we announced that over on Bravo and cocktails underscore like before they started filming because good connections with the V P Intel. So I would like to stay in the air for that reason. <Laugh> I’m kidding. I’m kidding. All right. So last pod, we mentioned the Sheena and Raquel podcast, right? How Sheena had Raquel on to discuss my post, which I came out and said was not true. And I took down about Raquel and sure. It’s making out at Coachella. It wasn’t true, but of course that doesn’t stop a thirsty turtle like Sheena from bringing <laugh> another firsty. I don’t even wanna, I don’t know, towed, like RA on to talk about it. So, you know, after, after we spoke about that, I also saw that Lala came out and actually said, and I don’t know where if it, maybe it was on her pod, she said like, basically a lot of the van D upon rule folks are sick of Sheena, exploiting her friends on the podcast, you know? And the viewers will see like, what I’m hearing from my source is that Sheena is essentially making these breakups and these wannabe hookups and all of this stuff into her own storyline. So when I heard that, I thought, okay, well who’s broken up Lala and Katie, I mean Roque and James too. Right. But so she’s taking those breakups and she’s trying to center the storyline around it.

Amanda (00:04:31):

She’s trying to pull like a Lisa Rinna.

B (00:04:33):

Yeah. Yeah. Like

Amanda (00:04:35):

Don’t look at, what’s really happening in my life over here. Look over or hear her at what’s going on with these people. And I’m gonna be the one pointing at it so that I get camera time. And, but don’t talk about my and

B (00:04:48):

Like, okay. And yeah, except that Raquel, maybe she’ll allow that to happen because she’s a little Staud, but Lala and Katie are not gonna not gonna take that. Okay. Mm-hmm <affirmative> so they’re not taking it. We are going to see an Alliance with Lala and Katie, from what I’m hearing a strong Alliance, I think Sheena is very much on the outs with them, especially with Katie, which I mean, yes, I’m hearing this from a source, but obviously based on just what we know, right. So she’s getting married this weekend, Amanda, and you know why I find this hysterical, right? Yeah. I do. It’s gonna be completely overshadowed because who else is getting married? Ben guys. Yes, we were wrong. <Laugh> about the wedding, but we were right about the location. It is in Georgia. Yeah. But wrong date, wrong location. It’s at, it’s at Ben’s house, which a lot of people have sent me. Apparently he bought it when he was with JLo and it’s, he just kept it all these years. I think maybe he’s tried to sell it. I don’t know. In any event, they’re having a three day event there. Now she’s going to me.

Amanda (00:05:58):

Did you look at the house? Wait just really quickly. Did you look at this house where, I mean, I didn’t even know, like there’s an oyster house. I was like, what the heck is an oyster house? And it’s like, essentially this big kind of like party barn where, I mean, it’s this, this place is, it looks like the notebook. I

B (00:06:17):

Was just gonna say that, which is obviously one of my favorite movies reminds me of the notebook. Totally puts me in like that era, even like I’m interested to see, because we know JLo loves to like get into character. I feel like, is she gonna kind of give us that vibe? Right. You kind of have to give us that Southern bell vibe.

Amanda (00:06:36):

Yeah. But this place I’m like looking at this versus, you know, the other place that we talked about that Ritz in lake Oconee. Yes. This place Ben’s house makes a lot more sense to me. I’m like, this looks like the kind of level and I can, you’re totally, I’m totally with you. I think she will. They will go with a, you know, like the theme and I’m sure there will be some amazing oysters yes. In the oyster. How

B (00:07:03):

Would I like that? So

Amanda (00:07:04):

The only thing I can’t wait to see that it’s

B (00:07:06):

Like, I, and I saw like some reports of this, like where are the guests gonna stay? Because it’s gonna be a lot of people. I mean, I don’t know. It may be somewhat intimate, but you’re talking at least over a hundred people and it’s kind of in a like deserted area. So what I read somebody said was like guests. And, and again, this could just be fabricated, but guests are kind of. Like why are you doing it somewhere where the nicest accommodation is far from the reception, but whatever, that’s their problem. Yeah. I hate, I personally hate when people burden the bride and groom with that. It’s like, here’s your invitation. If it works, see you there, if not, I’m gonna do it the way I wanna do it. And I feel all brides should do that.

Amanda (00:07:47):

I mean, if you don’t wanna go to Ben and JLo’s wedding that because you can’t stay at a Ritz Carlton nearby, like take your helicopter or don’t

B (00:07:57):

Go, I mean, I’m available. I’m available. I can at Jen, any moment moments, notice you chop it right into my backyard. Me and my husband will hop on <laugh> bags are packed. Bags are, I mean, I literally could just grab I’m in my closet. I could just grab a few dresses and bounce bathing suit. I’m good. Okay.

Amanda (00:08:19):

Yeah. We, we we’ll be your seat Fullers anyway. Back to,

B (00:08:22):

So we’re all waiting with dated breath for the benefit. So it’s totally gonna be overshadowed. She is getting married.

Amanda (00:08:28):

You’re ready for this

B (00:08:29):

On a Tuesday. <Laugh> in Mexico now. I mean, I don’t know if it’s any cheaper on a Tuesday, but I just had to laugh that it was a Tuesday because you know,

Amanda (00:08:40):

Or did she just move it because benne is getting married this weekend and she wanted her time in the sun.

B (00:08:45):

Oh, this could be, this could

Amanda (00:08:47):

Be, or, or is there just like a discounted rate?

B (00:08:50):

I think it’s like free guac at the resort if you do it on a Tuesday, but, and okay. So this is exclusive to cocktails and gossip. Katie is not going okay.

Amanda (00:09:03):

Was she going to go ever or do we know?

B (00:09:06):

I believe she was gonna go. I think that in the past couple of weeks, a lot of stuff has gone down following. And it’s funny, cuz we spoke about this on the pod and then my source like contacted me and was like, listen to your pod. You are spot on. Like, and then they shared all of these details, which thank you. You shall remain nameless. So okay. Not only is Bravo not paying for Brock and Sheena’s wedding not paying in any capacity, but when they found out that some of the cast isn’t going, they weren’t even going to film it. Amanda

Amanda (00:09:39):

Mm-Hmm, <affirmative>

B (00:09:40):

So interesting. Interesting. So I don’t know exactly how this happens because I’m not a producer for the show, but Katie will be in Mexico with Christina Kelly who another exclusive, yes she’s back. I know that she was originally on and when she was presented to us, it was more as a friend of Stassi, but we know this is a group of friends, right? So she’s friends with Katie and you know, the other people too. So she was from what I’m hearing kind of like a background, how she always was like a supporting cast. But since she’s involved in so much of what’s happening now we’re gonna see a lot of her. So her and Katie will be in Mexico. And basically that is what got Bravo to film. I guess we can expect to see like drama. I don’t know. We will keep our eyes peeled, but they were not PA they’re not paying. And they were not even filming it. I wonder if she’s gonna mention that on her podcast.

Amanda (00:10:35):

I mean probably so she can try to get some sponsors for the wedding. Yeah.

B (00:10:41):


Amanda (00:10:41):

<Laugh> I, okay. Well the thing with Katie and she, I don’t feel like this. This is totally me just being an outsider, looking in. I don’t feel like Katie ever liked Sheena. I feel like they had some friendships of convenience at some points, but I don’t ever feel like she was like, oh yeah, I should see what she’s doing tomorrow. And see if she wants to go grab a glass of wine. Like don’t ever see that really having been a thing. Yeah. We know Lala and she know we’re friends, which

B (00:11:16):

I’m hearing that Katie and Lala have a very strong Alliance and Lala has spoken out and said she exploits her friends. So that’s done. So, you know, I do agree with you, but like my thing is, it’s sort of like when you’re in a show, it’s sort of like almost becomes extended family, right? Like I can talk to my cousin about my other cousin, but like, if you talk about my cousin, even if her and I aren’t the closest, it’s still my cousin and that’s kind of how I see Vanderpump. These Katie and Sheena have been filming together since season one. Right? Obviously they didn’t start as best of friends. The relationship had ebbs and flows, but this is not Katie’s boyfriend. Okay. This was her very long term boyfriend who she was married to for several years. So mm-hmm, <affirmative>, you know, there’s levels to things. I don’t think Sheena has any respect for any of that. I mean, I also think that she will at all costs, avoid talking about the fact let’s face it. I mean, Brock is still not paid up from reports, right. From what we’ve heard, I’m sure if he was paid up, Sheila would mention that on her podcast. Cuz everybody wants to know, we know last season that he wasn’t paid up on child support. So it’s like anything to distract.

Amanda (00:12:27):

Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know like, like your cousin analogy, I guess I’m just saying like, if Katie’s looking at her various cousins, she’s probably not gonna be like, I wanna see if this, if, if Sheena wants to go, like I just don’t feel like they ever had just a, I agree like part of the same family, but didn’t have that close connection. I

B (00:12:48):

Agree. But does that mean that Katie then hooks her cousin up? Like her cousin’s acts up with her friend? No. Right. Like it’s weird.

Amanda (00:12:58):


B (00:12:59):

There’s no circumstance where that’s normal. The only circumstance where that would be normal is if a good amount of time had passed, which a couple months isn’t a good amount. I mean, their house wasn’t even sold yet. They had just moved out and also if the other party had moved on. So like now my cousin is moved on. She’s in a very happy, healthy relationship. It’s a year or whatever the time is later. And she says to me like B, it’s fine. Like he’s available. If Raquel likes him, like go tell him to go for it. Like that makes things different, but it’s very fresh. And I’m just gonna go with exploitation on Sheena’s part

Amanda (00:13:37):

<Laugh> yeah. So did we get N E T since this was something that, that this wast you got not to the website, right? Did we get anything about what’s going like Raquel, where she stands with all this stuff?

B (00:13:51):

So, and I know like you and I spoke about this, like the person said that Raquel’s a full blown, but this is the word that, that was <laugh>. This was a phrase that was used a full blown lunatic. So my immediate reaction, right. Was like, what do you mean? Like substance abuse, like alcohol. And they’re like, no, no, no, no, no, no, nothing like that. She just simply cannot handle the drama. She overreacts, she breaks down. Like she just should not be on the show. She can’t handle it. I mean, clearly this is whoever’s telling me his opinion. Right. So, you know, you take it from that point of view, grain of salt. But it made me think like, as whackadoodle, as everyone thinks James is, and he is, he was always her shield. She came on with him and he is very outspoken. And I think in many ways he was able to step in and to buffer for her.

B (00:14:39):

Right. So now she doesn’t have him to handle stuff that she’s not capable of handling. And reality shows are rough. You need to have tough skin. So without him, it’s from what I’m hearing, hearing, it’s like, she’s unable to cope, but you know, sorry, girl, you wanna be so boldly talking on a podcast that you’re hooking up with your quote unquote friend or a minimum, your castmates ex-husband people in the cast are gonna turn on you. You think that Lala is gonna stand for that. You think Katie’s gonna stand for that. I’d be interested to see, I haven’t heard where Ariana stands. I’m sure she won’t go all the way negative, but she’s certainly not gonna support Raquel and that

Amanda (00:15:15):


B (00:15:16):

You know, the guys are probably staying out of it, but <laugh>, I mean, we do remember Lala and her feelings about the Babi. So <laugh>, I expect Lala and Katie as a team to be fantastic by the way.

Amanda (00:15:30):

Well, I do too. And you know, with back to Raquel really quickly imagine, right. The last couple seasons she just came on and, and did she played that Babi? I role. Right. Very well, like very sweet. And I’m here to support James and blah, blah, blah. And now she’s like gotta stand on her own. So she’s probably like who the am, excuse my language. <Laugh> who the F am I right? Like what do I do? How, how should I react to this? And like, I’m sure it’s too much for her because she just doesn’t seem to have that strong of a personality. At least it hadn’t come through previously. No. And I

B (00:16:06):

Think that she’s also somebody who’s very easily influenced. Right. So when she made it sound like it was a great idea to get some, you know, PR I don’t, I don’t, I don’t even believe Raquel ever wanted to hook up with Tom. I’m sure it was just attention and get my name out there. Right. And being the blogs and have people talking, excuse me, and have people talking. And so then with that comes backlash and I don’t think she’s a person or listen, this is what the source says. And I see it. Like, I don’t think she’s a person who can sit there and take that, you know, you have to, she enough for whatever it is. She could take it. I mean, she lets it roll off her back. Like it’s nothing mm-hmm <affirmative> so

Amanda (00:16:45):

Yeah, I agree. I don’t, I don’t think Rochelle is equipped either. Okay. So this I, this is getting me interested by the way in watching the show again. So I’ll be pretty interested to see what happens, but then we got this email about, we, we believe P so I’m gonna read it. It says it’s from Lisa Vanderpump, subject final season. The show with the goodbye Kyle’s wife is being considered for the chopping block. Last season did poorly. And didn’t set well with FA fans and production greatly noticed they are currently filming, but this may be its last season.

B (00:17:29):

So I got that prior to the information from the source. And I, you know, and like, I think a lot of viewers, I wasn’t sure it was gonna come back. I was somewhat surprised when I got the, you know, Intel that they were filming. I was almost hesitant to post it because it was before it was, was announced. Right. And I did of course post it because I just can’t help myself. And it ended up being true. I do think they have to bring it. And I think from what I’m hearing, I think they’re bringing it. I think they’re bringing it. I I’m gonna watch.

Amanda (00:18:04):

Yeah. Well, based on all this, I am definitely gonna tune back in cuz I, I really like the idea actually of Lala and Katie being this kind of team together, cuz Lala, both of them have quite sharp tongues. Yes. And which just makes it interesting and a lot more interesting than boring.

B (00:18:24):

And, and I’m interested to see where Ariana falls in because we know she has a bond with Sheena, but she’s not necessarily like close to Sheena on a day to day basis. We know that she is close to Katie. That has always been complicated because Katie doesn’t get along with Sandoval. So I think that Ariana has always been able to Decar like compartmentalize, is that the word <laugh> like separate those. Yeah. You know those relationships. So I mean, I’m interested in seeing, I think that the biggest draw for me with Vanderpump rules is seeing Katie post marriage. And I’m also interested to see Lala. I mean we saw Lala as a young girl. Right. And then she was with Rand and it was secret, but she was always like cuffed, you know, she was always so I’m, I’m really, and we said this in another pod, like I wanna really see them dating. I don’t want in any setup. And I hope that they’re listening and you know, they really give us the real deal. Like I wanna see them go on dates and all that kind of stuff.

Amanda (00:19:22):

Yeah. I agree. And then we got another message about some of these same books. Do you wanna read this one?

B (00:19:31):

Sure. So this was actually a DM, Hey girl, a friend of mine who works as a stylist in Vegas told me that a certain west coast housewife wants to return. Now that she’s growing a close bond with a current fan favorite. Okay. However, she requested that a few current cast members need to lose their fulltime positions. So obviously they’re talking about Vanderpump, right? What I can tell you is that a source, when I posted this immediately reached out to say that Vanderpump has zero interest. She won’t return. She won’t return. She won’t return. But here’s how I thought it through. Okay. We’ve received so much info. And I actually just posted about, we’ve received a lot that Rena and Erica and Diana are not coming back. Right. As much as everyone wants to say, Rena’s not coming back. Andy loves her. And the thing about her is she’ll turn on the Fox force, whatever it used to be five Teddy left. Now it’s, she’ll throw anybody under the bus. I don’t know about Erica, but she might because she’s a hustler and she needs that check. Right. So

Amanda (00:20:32):

My, so wait, who is Vanderpump becoming close with? That is a and

B (00:20:37):

Favorite Garel. So remember Garel son Oliver works for her restaurant in Vegas. Now this is where my head went. When I got this, I said to myself, Vanderpump would most certainly come on. She would buddy right up to Garel and Sutton. And she would go for Renna and Erica, no problem. No questions asked. I don’t believe that Vanderpump would come back so long as Kyle is there in any capacity mm-hmm <affirmative> like forget about the full time thing. I don’t think she would share a screen with Kyle. Now my source says she just wouldn’t. She wouldn’t, she wouldn’t, I don’t agree with that. I think if Kyle were to come out at the end of the season and being been like, it’s been a great run. I don’t need to do the show anymore. Whatever her, whatever. And she left. I totally could see Vanderpump coming back. I think she would gladly welcome taking down rhino now.

Amanda (00:21:29):

Yeah. And we’re, we’ve been hearing that Kyle is, is saying behind the scenes, this is her last season and that she is probably not going to come back. So yep. There could be some, there could be some true to this and I would love to, you know, I, I actually would love to see a world where LVP comes back and she’s on for a couple years and then maybe Kyle comes back and the two become front. Like I think there’s, there’s endless possibilities. Life is long. I love, I actually really, I love Vanderpump. She’s probably my favorite housewife as we have discussed. Yes. I actually really generally like Kyle too. I think Kyle is just, she’s just not having a great season. I think it throws her having Kathy on the show. And I think we’re gonna hear some more about that. And I think that is maybe, maybe it’s just time for her to go take a pause and then come back.

B (00:22:27):

So I was talking about this with one of my, like, you know, one of my people who feeds me Intel, and I just, I said to the person I said, but I don’t understand. Cause I know you and I spoke about it on the pod. Like why Kyle still does it? Mauricio’s business is taken off, blah, blah, blah. And the person said to me B, she makes a million dollars just to show up. Like, and, but where that gets tricky for me is the sister element. I think that when Kim left, it became more of like an easy ride for her. Right. And now with Kathy being there and yesterday, oh, so this is fun yesterday Paris. So, you know, they were the last episode that we saw, they were at the disco party run is whatever mm-hmm <affirmative> and Paris cropped out Kyle and in the picture where Garel Kathy SU and I think crystal and she wrote my FAS or whatever, like my favorites and like clearly in the side of the picture was her aunt Kyle’s hair.

B (00:23:24):

So like there is family drama there. We’re gonna, and we’re gonna see it at the reunion. And you know, Kyle does give us a lot and honestly, even right. I mean, right, wrong, whatever. I like Kyle, I like Mauricio. I generally like them. I don’t love every single thing they do. I mean, but it’s a television show, you know, they have to be interesting, but I love Vanderpump. So I don’t know. And we’re gonna talk about this later in the pod. I don’t wanna spoil it, but there’s also another rumored thing that Vanderpumps gonna be involved in. Bravo. So maybe my source is right and she never would come back. Maybe it’s me holding out hope. I don’t know.

Amanda (00:24:05):

Yeah. I think let’s talk about the dinner. And there is this obviously divide happening right with Garel and SU right to Kathy for sure. Crystal and then the, the rest of the girls. So Kyle is totally spinning was totally spinning it. And she got called out on it. Right, right. During the show, Rena, I mean, Rena was, she was in full soap, opera form. It

B (00:24:36):

Was bizarre at that dinner party. It was so bizarre. Listen, those,

Amanda (00:24:40):

Those poor charity

B (00:24:41):

People. Oh my God. And then, and then when they’re like homeless and toothless and I worked with the homeless, my God and the toothless, I was just, I have to say, and I know you’re you are the marketer. Is that the worst name for a charity ever? Gosh,

Amanda (00:24:57):

So it’s so funny cuz I texted you earlier this weekend. I was like, we have got to talk about this homeless, but not toothless. I got it. Right. I’m really proud of myself because it is the worst name, the worst name. And I’m like, I, what I wanted originally to say is like, okay, like I’m gonna volunteer my, my help for this charity. Cuz that is one of the other things that I helped do as branding. Right, right. Until you sent me that other text about the charity.

B (00:25:31):

Okay. So in regards to that, so we got a text that the charity has a failing score on one of those things, right.

Amanda (00:25:39):

And a charity navigator,

B (00:25:41):

A charity navigator. But Amanda, I have to tell you that after that a lot of people who work for nonprofits sent me information that basically it’s not a bad charity. I don’t wanna go into all the different messages and all the details, but they said they did fine on the other scoring their guess would be that they don’t have paid staff. So they don’t prioritize those things. And that the good charity navigator rating is kind of odd. And there’s another one that rates them better. I have to say I was away when this episode aired and I was seeing memes with the homeless and toothless and I was like, oh God, what are these people? Like? I, my initial reaction was to be like, why are people making fun of homeless people like, and their teeth, like, yeah, this is so like inappropriate. And so then when I caught up on the episode, I was just like, what, what

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B (00:27:38):

But yeah, so I don’t think the charity is as shady as, so when I sent you that text, I thought it was, I got a lot of follow up. So I don’t think it’s a shady, but ah, you know, who knows let’s

Amanda (00:27:48):

Then let’s give ’em for goodness sakes. Like let’s, let’s clean up on a few fronts and let’s let’s rebrand, right? Let’s use all this attention for good and actually get people back to focused on the charity, which I think is great. You know, getting your teeth clean or getting dental work is not something that if you don’t have money for a house you can probably afford. And so the cause I think is, is great. Let’s but just

B (00:28:15):

Off the bat, I have to say <laugh> homeless, not toothless. So like my brain immediately goes to like, you know, by the grace of God, I’ve never been in the position to be homeless or toothless. But if I was homeless, I think that would take a roof over my head would take priority to teeth.

Amanda (00:28:33):

I mean, but if you can’t, if you’re in bad pain and

B (00:28:36):

Right, right, right. That’s all true. But anyway, getting back to the dinner, back to

Amanda (00:28:41):

Back to the dinner, Gar,

B (00:28:43):

That sells the best. I mean, to me, she elevates the entire cast. I think that Rena and Kyle are super jealous because Marcell’s the best actress the show’s ever had. Sutton can be very sloppy. We know that, but she’s not wrong in what she says, dropping the bomb about being contacted Amanda, to be a witness for one of Eric’s lawsuits. I was like, you know, there are scenes where it almost seems like Sutton’s backing down to Erica. And when she did that, I was like, she gives zero Fs. She very easily, when they sort of were getting along, obviously they weren’t formally like back to being friends. She could have called her and been like, I just want you to know my attorney is dealing with this, but I received a letter and she didn’t. So like I don’t in this situation, I’m not saying something was wrong. Okay. Because Erica has been disgusting to her and she called her reliability when all this is happening. But I will say, I can’t say anybody would blame Erica for her reaction in that moment. I mean in front of, of everybody.

Amanda (00:29:41):

No, but I have been dying to talk to you about this because, and I can’t believe that nobody else, at least not on like the internet seems to be talking about this. Why this moment is it because sudden had just finally had enough. And then I am also fascinated. I was like, wait, would sudden be the only one? Why would she be the only one? Because she is by no means the closest to Erica. Did the other women get the same kind of letter and no one else is talking about it. I don’t know.

B (00:30:13):

So they showed the clip at the reunion, I think. Okay. So we don’t know the answer to that. They may have no, but so back to your, your question was why this moment, I think this moment was because she was called a liability when she tried to approach Erica with it, cuz this was like the second time they spoke about it, Erica was like very nasty to her again. And like dismissive of her and said don’t even bother calling me and all that kind of stuff. And I think that everybody was assembled and there are scenes where it’s like just a couple people on the couch. I think that Sutton wanted to drop that in front of everybody because you know what? Dore questioned it. Kyle, in other words to say, Hey, I got a letter and I had to hire my attorney and I’m a wealthy woman who can handle that. And I’m not scared about it, but you guys are very closely associated with her and this could be coming to you next because you can’t tell me those other women. Weren’t like, oh snap, am I gonna be called?

Amanda (00:31:08):

There’s no way they haven’t been called. Right. There’s I mean, cause like I said, she’s the of that entire table besides crystal and Kathy and Garel, I mean, those, they are the least close right to the Fox. Four, five is way closer. And has, you know, I mean Kyle has flown on Erica’s jet to Greece. Remember when she went with her degree. Of course Kyle’s and let’s not forget

B (00:31:34):

About the rumors and we don’t, we don’t know if these are true, but let’s not forget about the rumors. This of us guessing that Rena’s some of her companies were funded, were donated, you know, by, you know, Eric’s funds. So, and of course we all go back to the fact that that could absolutely be why they’re so tight, but anyway, pushing that aside. Well

Amanda (00:31:52):


B (00:31:53):

Sorry, go ahead.

Amanda (00:31:54):

Well, I was just gonna say though, too guys, like, so then no wonder like, I mean Sutton, cause I, I love Sutton actually, but she just really dug her grape. Yeah. Because with these women and then maybe that’s what this is really, a lot of this all has been about is because now sudden by coming out and saying this smart people like you and me are gonna be like, wait, a sudden, got one. Then the other women got one and they don’t wanna talk about it. And now SU has pretty much told everybody that this is going on. And, and so, and

B (00:32:26):

Earlier in the episode,

Amanda (00:32:27):


B (00:32:27):

She said to Kyle, why am I the only person talking about this? And now when we see that scene, it goes, she was talking about the legal thing. I mean, if you’re a person with a brain in your head, you connect those dots. And Kyle like shut down that conversation. I also would like to point out that they are essentially Erica and Rena are bullying more blatantly. And to some degree, Kyle are bullying. Garel into not being friends with Sutton. I mean, they’re saying to her, she’s a liability. It’s almost like they’re saying, if you drop her, we’ll be nice to you. I mean, they’ve basically said that. I mean, but they must not get Garel cause car’s not gonna be bullied by them. You know? <laugh>, she’s not, she’s not gonna drop her friend and just breaking the fourth wall, which obviously they can’t say Garel is in no risk of losing her seat on that couch. In that show, she is at no risk. She is sudden is not a liability to hire. She doesn’t mind going toe to toe to them in scene. She’s not gonna not be asked back because of it.

Amanda (00:33:24):

No, no. So, and I think, I think Sutton finally was like, I can imagine there’s probably been, you know, other conversations that are just not happening on camera. That Sutton is like, why is nobody else talking about this? Why is nobody else talking about this? Which is maybe why Rena has just kept going after her and after her and after her, even though like she’s forgiven her multiple times, right? So that this is all I’m like reading between the lines. I’m like, this is what this is really about. And this I think is what this draw. It’s not about the Oscar table. It’s not about the sauce. It’s about this lawsuit. And the fact that Sutton is like, why are we protecting this person? Why are we hiding this? Instead of talking about it

B (00:34:10):

A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Oh. And then today I don’t even know if you saw this yet. Cuz I just posted about it. Huge shout out to my friend, Larry, over at Bravo, by gays.

Amanda (00:34:22):

Oh I love

B (00:34:23):

His account. Guys. Give him a follow Bravo by gays. He’s awesome. Amanda. One of these days I already told him, I’m like, you’re coming on, you’re shooting this with us. It would be hysterical. And he’s always up. He always post stuff. He just posted that the prominent, retired justice, Trisha Bigelow, who had an affair with Tom, they say from 2012 to 2016, if you remember, and this is going back, but this is when Erica said she was divorcing Tom and she posted pictures from the flip phone and all that <laugh> yeah. Yeah. But this woman, and I remember at the time we all thought she was like fabricating this, but no, he really, he had an affair with this woman. She said she had no idea that he was involved in stolen money. Which I mean, he was just a successful attorney. Why would she think that?

B (00:35:03):

So now she has returned any monies that were attached to his victims. Erica, I think you should take note of that. <Laugh> the funny thing is somebody asked because apparently he paid for her breast implants and somebody was like, are you gonna return your breast implants? And her attorney like made a statement. Like we do not comment on cosmetic procedures, but my, I might under, if she’s returning all monies, my understanding would be that she would, whatever the implants cost, I guess maybe she just gave back to them and we’re like, I don’t want anything from you. I didn’t know. This may be attached to victims of your illegal practices and here’s everything I’ve ever got from you. And I’m done

Amanda (00:35:43):

Well. Are aren’t you supposed to get? I don’t have them, but aren’t you supposed to get implants done every 10 years. Anyway,

B (00:35:49):

That’s what I hear. I don’t have them either, but well, 2012, maybe

Amanda (00:35:53):

What’s his name could put ’em in the, the museum.

B (00:35:56):

Somebody wrote that. Amanda, I saw someone posted me about that. Yes. I forget who, but some, maybe it was Larry somebody. Oh, somebody wrote that.

Amanda (00:36:05):

I love him. I just, you know, on this topic though, like, and I think you just said that like Erica should probably be paying attention. This is what is so insane to me is that I think Erica had this opportunity to get the world on her side and be like, look, I am doing everything I possibly can to cooperate. I am going to give as much of the money, you know, that is found to be stolen. I am going to give it back. Anything that is even at, in question, let’s put it in escrow. Right. You know, let’s put the earrings in escrow, let’s do all of this. Like I can just imagine she had this opportunity to get everybody on her side and be like, she was also a victim in this and she has not. And then, you know, she could have made more endorsements. She could have made more this. She could have it just, it’s crazy to me that she didn’t do that. And it really just makes me question why she didn’t do it. You know, maybe, maybe she knew more than, than, and that that’s why she couldn’t

B (00:37:10):

Do that. You know? I will not ever understand her train of thought. I will say that. It seems to me she still very much has a loyalty to Tom and I’m not, I’m not even saying that. And I know we spoke about this and I don’t wanna rehash stuff from old ponds. I’m not even saying it’s that she knew she just has this loyalty to him blindly, unless it’s not blind. And then that, that leads into a whole, but you know, as things stand, she has no criminal charges. So these bad decisions, who’s advising her. Remember when Sutton offered up her forensic attorney and offered up all the stuff and was like, I went through a very tricky D why not take her off? You know, there’s so many things, so many things,

Amanda (00:37:54):

Or she could have at least just given it a face job and be like, yeah, yeah. On camera. Yeah. Setting, please send me the, the guy’s info. Right. And she didn’t. Right. Wow. Like she could have done that and then never followed up. Right. But she’s just gone. So the opposite way,

B (00:38:10):


Amanda (00:38:10):

It’s been, I don’t know. Let’s, let’s talk about Southern charm, which we are loving. I’m actually, I’m loving it. I don’t love all of it, but I’m loving certain pieces of it. We got an email about it though. That the network isn’t super loving it and not feeling like, I guess the fans are, are enjoying it. So I wanna know what you’re thinking.

B (00:38:32):

I like Southern charm. I’ve always liked Southern Southern charm. I’m really enjoying Paige and Craig. I like seeing their relationship. You know, I’m a big, I’m a big Paige fan, I think together. They’re great. Naomi, hooking up with Whitney, which again, cocktails, you guys knew about this. Cuz we said this months, I mean, we said this a long time, January.

Amanda (00:38:52):

I was looking back at the post. It was in

B (00:38:54):

January. Yeah. And everyone was like, oh yeah. Right. That’s not gonna be true. Ha ha. Okay. So <laugh>

B (00:39:00):

I found that odd and we spoke about why we found it odd. I also hear it. Wasn’t a one time thing. Like they were hooking up a little bit, Leva, Leva. Isn’t giving much, you know, she has her own show coming out. It’s gonna be cold Southern hospitality. It’s a Vanderpump rules type of thing. I don’t see her as a strong anchor. We hear that. We hear that. She’s a big fight at the end of the season with a bunch of the cast. What I’m hearing is that the cast was sick of her, like pushing her own show. She was like very much during the filming of Southern charm, all about her own show. I also hear she got cut out of a lot of scenes because she really wasn’t making a favorable showing and production and Bravo were like, oh, this is our anchor for <laugh> for our spinoff.

B (00:39:47):

Like yeah. You know, and I have to say, and I think, I think everybody suffered from this in COVID right. So many businesses, so many people made like these decisions they may not have made in quote unquote normal times. And I think picking her to do a spinoff was one of those decisions. Do I think people who tune in I’ll tune in, I think that there’s always interest in a hot young cast, like Vanderpump rules. I just don’t know if they needed her. And I wonder in how big of a capacity she’s actually gonna be shown.

Amanda (00:40:23):

Well, and think about Vanderpump too, right though. You, I don’t even feel like you saw Lisa every episode

B (00:40:30):

Or once she was off Beverly Hills, you saw her more <laugh>.

Amanda (00:40:33):

Yeah. But with like, I can actually see a show. Cause I agree with you. I don’t think while Leva has had maybe one of the best blowups of anybody. Yes. She is looking fantastic. Her like hair up with the curtain. Bang. Beautiful. That look was so cute. I mean, she’s been, her fashion has been on point. She is looking amazing, but I don’t think I don’t. I agree. I don’t think she can, she can quite anchor the show, but I definitely think like people in nightlife and a show about the nightlife and Charleston, which has just been growing and growing. I think that, I mean, I’m definitely gonna show, like check out that show and her kind of coming in maybe and mediating or being here and there, I think would be, would be a show that I would be interested in checking out.

B (00:41:26):

So yeah. And I think that, and this is just, you know, my opinion based on being like a Bravo expert <laugh> I think how she plays it at the reunion is gonna like seal the deal for her. I think that, you know, going up against a bunch of OGs, when you have a spinoff coming out, isn’t a good look. I think you go there, you eat a little Crow. You make amends, every, make everything, copacetic, whatever that looks like. And I don’t know all the details about the fallout and I’m not saying that she’s completely to blame don’t mistake me. I just feel like a lot of the other cast members she’s fighting with have a more established fan base over the years, she is more of a newbie. So I think if she plays the reunion in a way where she leaves things on like good terms and everything, civil, I think it would be a better look for her.

B (00:42:13):

You know, everyone likes to see young, hot people, so people are gonna tune in. But if she wants to be like a center of that and I like her and I like, I like her family. I like her son. We don’t get to see that much of her husband. I think he’s not that interested in the cameras. You know, he’s a business man. They run these restaurants. I get it. However, she’s not like a dynamic personality, at least not on television. I’m not saying, you know what I mean? Like she’s a business woman and she’s smart and she makes good decisions. Doesn’t mean I wanna tune in and watch her.

Amanda (00:42:45):

No. And so what do we think about some of the other, the other folks, the other girls in the

B (00:42:52):

Show? So I like Vinita. I, I think what I like about Vinita is us getting a glimpse into the influencer world. I think it’s current. I think so many people, myself included are very curious about what this sort of lifestyle entails. I think we’re gonna see more shows that highlight this. And so I like her, I think she’s good, Catherine. You know, Catherine to me has, should have been gone a long time ago. It’s not that I’m not sympathetic to her. I think that she’s an a victim in many ways. She’s just that entertaining to watch. There are young children involved. She’s clearly still in a space where she doesn’t have it together. I, I understand she needs to check. I just don’t wanna see her on my television. I’m sorry. It’s just how I feel. It’s not even that I dislike her. It just, it makes me uncomfortable. She

Amanda (00:43:39):

Doesn’t have like a, I know she had Danny in the previously, but she’s never had like a really just genuine friendship. And it just feels like almost everybody that’s like close to her, then she like just stings at them

B (00:43:52):

And even on watch what happens live. When I watched her, first of all, she seemed a little off. Everyone was like, oh great. You did great. I didn’t think she did great. But like she said, like, she doesn’t talk to this one. She doesn’t, she’s burned so many. She’s still friends with the guys, but that’s not like, that’s not like that’s a for TV and B because mm-hmm <affirmative> they feel for her, you know, they have sympathy for her. They want what’s best for her. Doesn’t mean she needs to be on our television screen. And I don’t know. I don’t know if you’re gonna agree with me on this one, but I’m not feeling Olivia. I think she’s brash. I think she’s entitled. I’m not into her. The showcasing of the parents

Amanda (00:44:27):

<Laugh> so we, we got that email alleging that her mom wants to be the new miss Patricia, which does not surprise me. It’s so strange to me that these parents are on the show so much. If I were in my twenties, she’s 30. I would, oh my God. Even I

B (00:44:47):

Think I could be whatever, late twenties, early thirties. What, what,

Amanda (00:44:50):

I don’t know. I didn’t live with my parents after college. Right. So like, I wouldn’t wanna be showing that. And it’s just, it’s, it’s strange. It’s very strange to me. I kind of, I like that Olivia has stood her ground. I liked the conversation with her and Vinita when they got coffee and they kind of talked everything through. I was like that. I really, that I really liked. I just, I, I think heard the parent thing is just very, we’ve seen a little bit of Caleb’s mom. We’ve seen right. Peppered

B (00:45:24):

In peppered in, I like that little touches peppered in that’s nice. But, but not

Amanda (00:45:29):

Every show, show, not such

B (00:45:30):

A prominent role.

Amanda (00:45:31):

It’s strange. It’s strange. I just, some of the choices that she has made about how she is being perceived. Yeah. With, you know, and like letting her family, I just think, I just think it’s off to me, but,

B (00:45:46):

And you know, I chose not to post there. There were rumors about her brother. I chose not to post it and cocktails know he isn’t on the show. I’m not posting about it, but it does beg the question since the rest of the family is so inclined to hop in front of the camera. <Laugh> you know, I’m just saying I’m not going there, but yeah.

Amanda (00:46:05):

They don’t even make it sound like she has a sibling, which is weird. Interesting. Very

B (00:46:10):


Amanda (00:46:11):

Yeah, but we won’t go there Austin. So Austin and Olivia, that’s been a little bit of a roller coaster because we heard her say in an interview in the last week or so that they are in real time together an exclusive, but then a source just told us that that is not true. So

B (00:46:33):

She definitely said this. I watched, I believe it was entertainment tonight. I Bryce Sandler, Bryce. Yeah. Bryce Sanders. And she said they were exclusive. I mean, I don’t think he spliced it to sound like that. It wasn’t a written article. It was an audio. I think either she misspoke, maybe, you know, like saying yeah, whatever. Or given the blinds about him not being faithful. She wanted a backed, but the source tells me they are not exclusive. I mean, is this a relationship made to last? She seemed all season. And I do not blame her to be annoyed by his ongoing thing with Madison, obviously she’s engaged. He’s not over it. I mean, Madison seems like, kind of hung up on him too. But, and I don’t blame Olivia. Like I would not be okay with that. I would not want to get involved, but then like move on it. To me, it seems a case of, and then we just, this week watch that he hooked up with Sierra. Right? It’s like, sometimes he’s just not that into you.

Amanda (00:47:28):

I mean, Madison. Yeah, no, I agree. I, and we’ve, we’ve even gotten tea about him being seen very flirty with girls in Miami and all that. But you know, I just had this thought about Madison and talking and thinking about lava, kind of having show why doest Madison get her own show. And it’s about the hair salon and the people who come in and like hearing their stories and hearing her, like I could, I could see her carrying a show. What

B (00:47:56):

About Craig and down south? I mean, I have to tell you, my followers have messaged me to ask me to find out names of the guys who work there. Cuz apparently he’s got like a lot of cute guys working there. I mean, <laugh> right. And they have that. They have that, the tap with the beer with Austin’s beer. Right. They could do like little meet and greets with him in Austin. And then the staff and I, I split it, do Madison and <laugh> I mean, yeah. I don’t know why they pick, just love his business. Maybe a spinoff like showcasing. Yeah. I don’t know. And then like you think the people with those businesses, don’t all hang out. They’re all in their twenties. Come on. It’s a small town. Everyone tells us that.

Amanda (00:48:34):

That is one of the reasons I love shopping in the south is most of the stores, especially in like the nicer kind of tourists areas have bars <laugh> yes. It’s just, you just can drink and shop, which is very smart on their part pink

B (00:48:48):


Amanda (00:48:48):

For me, especially when it comes to me. Yeah. I’m, I’m a lot more likely to pull the credit card out after a darkened. Stormy. Yes. Okay. So, all right. This thing really bothered me that Sierra, okay. That he met up and hooked with Sierra because, because

B (00:49:06):

He was annoyed had of date <laugh>

Amanda (00:49:09):

Well, yeah, but also like I am just, I think I have lost respect for Sarah. I mean, what is it about Austin? Does he have a magical penis? Like she goes all the way to Charleston to go sleep on Craig’s couch with zero intention of seeing Austin. Like that’s.

B (00:49:27):

And I have to say at this point I am not blaming Austin. Austin has time and time again, proven that a, he will go to his second choice. He will go to his third choice. He’s never even quite clear about who his first choice is. And all women involved in this current scenario, there was a point where Sierra may not have known that. She knows that now Olivia clearly knows that these women that keep going and getting involved with him, this is on them. They’re okay with being treated as second, best or third,

Amanda (00:50:00):

The penis is it’s ma it’s hit.

B (00:50:02):

I, I just, I can’t imagine. That’s true, Amanda. <Laugh> what

Amanda (00:50:07):

Is it? What is it? That’s getting them back bed with him. I just don’t

B (00:50:11):

Think some women like to be treated like piece of, like women, like big God. I, I mean, not me, but a lot of women do come on. We all have those friends when they were younger. Hopefully most of them grew out of it. Not all of them.

Amanda (00:50:23):

Yeah. Speaking of

B (00:50:24):

Taylor, speaking of Taylor, Taylor, I really do like, I like her with or without Shep. I just, I like her personality. I think she’s very genuine. I think that she gives us good TV. I think she’s honest. She seems to be doing, hanging out with him because this week on social. So they did some ad, some shoe ad and they did some alcohol beverage. And now this may have all been in the works, right? Mm. Before they split, however, they were in it together. They were laughing in like the Instagram clips that were whatever. Obviously they’re gonna be off again on again. This is gonna be their thing. If he’s smart, he’ll marry her. I wa I think, I think she had a very good showing and watch what happens live when she was on with Olivia. I think her really like pushing that, you know, Tom Schwartz being interested and kind of that whole thing. I hope he wakes up and he’s like, you know what? I’m not gonna find better than this, unless he just is a perio bachelor, but then you can’t date somebody steady.

Amanda (00:51:21):

Yeah. I don’t know. I, I loved her on watch what happens live. She was very honest, very open, very genuine. She seems to be doing pretty well. I don’t know. I say good for you. Don’t don’t marry Shep. I mean, there are plenty of other polo shirt wearing efficiency.

B (00:51:41):

Yes. There are. There

Amanda (00:51:43):

Are Naomi, Naomi looked gorgeous and I don’t know. I, I, don’t always, I don’t always have time to watch, watch what happens live, but I really enjoyed watching her and hearing what she had to say. And if you guys get a chance, watch it because she, she just, she did great. And it makes you just really cheer for her even

B (00:52:03):

More. And so with Naomi, I watch what happens live. I think that she really wanted to show that she’s happy for Craig and Paige. I don’t believe that was her feeling during filming. I’m sorry. Obviously she can say it was, I would do the same. She’s pulling him to the side. It wasn’t appropriate. I think that at that point, she really thought there was a chance she could win him over and after he kind of laid it out in the dining room, which funny enough is the same dining room that he said to her, what’s wrong with my sewing. And she kind of put him down. Yeah. I think he had to be strong with her and say like, listen, your opinions. And you pulling me to the side. Like you don’t impact my life. I have a loving girlfriend, cut it out. We’re in a group setting, Hey, what’s up?

B (00:52:45):

We can chat. None of this private talks. We’re not hanging out on our own, you know, you left. And he said, you left a loving relationship for a controlling cheater. That’s on you. And you know, he really put the kibosh on it. And I think that she went on, watch what happens live. I think that she wrapped it up nice with a bow. She even said like, when she was saying, give her your coat. She’s like, I overdid it. I was overcompensating. You know, she’s probably happy for him. I will say, I do know that she is dating somebody. Who’s Uber rich. He owns the breakers in Palm beach. Now maybe if he signed onto the show, I’d be interested in seeing that. So yeah. She’s, she’s dating somebody. It’s her boyfriend. I don’t know how serious, but like I did hear it’s her boyfriend,

Amanda (00:53:29):

So, well, I think she has looked absolutely gorgeous all, I mean, just, yeah glowing. So I think, you know, sometimes you just, sometimes a, a breakup is a great way to kind of shed dead weight and she she’s come out of it. Just looking, looking great. Yes. So I wanna change topics to, what’s been going on with Lenny and Lisa from real Housewives of Miami. So we heard what we saw that the mistress has filed a restraining order against Lisa. Apparently she’s claiming that she’s getting a lot of mean Instagram messages from various accounts. And she says that it’s Lisa behind it and has filed a restraining

B (00:54:12):

Order. And so a follower sent me this week info from the Miami dad court system showing it was approved. I was obviously shocked, but once I posted that my trustee lawyer followers weighed in and they told me that it’s not hard to get a temporary one. And that’s what this is. This is a temporary one. She’s gonna have to go back to court to get a permanent. So basically temporary injunction was issued. It’s a guarantee that a hearing will be held in front of a judge. Lisa will have a chance to respond and the permanent are much more difficult to obtain. It just appears that there was an extension of time to respond and they’re gonna be meeting in court on September 12th. You know, I just go back to the, like the, of Lenny to allow this. I mean, in the complaint, it only cites Instagram messages and you don’t even know if they’re from her account, right? So this is gonna be hard to prove, right? But there’s no physical threat. The mistress does not even claim that there’s any sort of physical threat. Why other than the fact that this woman wants to be in the news or, or embarrass Lisa or whatever it is, what, what’s the purpose of this? And why is Lenny? This is the mother of his children. And she has not threatened her. I’m sorry. Sending some trolley Instagram messages, if that’s even true is not a real threat. I’m sorry, what is Lisa gonna do?

Amanda (00:55:36):

I just think Lenny’s little. <Laugh> honestly, yes. Like he’s loves the drama and is encouraging the drama and wants to stay in the spotlight as long as possible. Now that he knows that his spotlight is going away with his divorce to Lisa. So I’m glad to hear you say that the restraining order was just about Instagram. That’s a kind of a good thing to hear because with restraining orders, I mean, if it’s like a physical restraining order, it could really mess things up for their kids. Like they couldn’t be. And you know, who is it? Heather McDonald always says like men marry the first wife for love and the second wife for childcare, because somebody’s gotta take care of the kids. Once they divorce the first wife. <Laugh>, you know, if Lenny wants this mistresses help with these kids and they can’t all be in the same vicinity, and this is just gonna really messing up for the kids. If it is a physical one, hopefully it’s just this Instagram. And then that, then that of course is just, it’s just

B (00:56:33):

Drama. Well, there’s another side to that. We remember that he posted that he wasn’t kicking his kids out of the house. So is his intention to live in that house with his kids and the mistress or whomever he settles down with and just kind of replace mommy. And he’s trying to go for full custody. I mean, I can’t imagine a judge in the world that would go for that. I’m just saying a restraining order certainly would help his case.

Amanda (00:56:57):

I just, I also just wanna make this very clear. I do not think that Lisa is behind this. I think there’s probably a lot of fans. I mean, look at us, we’re totally team Lisa, right? We’re not sending me an Instagram messages, but we’re talking about this. Right. And we’re, I just called Lenny a little and I just did it again. <Laugh> but you know, like, I don’t think that Lisa would do it because her kids are at stake. There has, you know, it doesn’t sound like custody has been figured out. It doesn’t sound like money has been figured out. I think she’s smarter than that. Right? So again, I think it’s just

B (00:57:32):

Drama. I think it’s just drama. I think she is a real nasty one. Ugh.

Amanda (00:57:39):

Well, while you were traveling, the big New Jersey wedding went down. So whoa, last we chatted. We knew from some trusted sources that Melissa wasn’t going to the wedding,

B (00:57:54):

Right? So we got that from a reliable source. They proved to be right. That was a cocktails exclusive guys. Now we knew there was a blowout, right? The same source told us there was a blowout. We weren’t clear on exactly what went down at the time. The best of our knowledge was that Melissa called out Louie at the finale party, which was at Paul Dolores’s boyfriend’s house. What we didn’t know at the time was Danielle, when they were having that blowout, the new girl did yell actually is the one who said something about the cheating rumor. So at this point, everyone knows the rumor that allegedly Melissa made out with some guy that’s a mutual friend of her. That’s a friend of her and Joe, some good looking guy is pictures circulating around whatever Mar’s friend, right? This woman, I forget her name, whatever her name is. That’s Laura. That’s starting all this

Amanda (00:58:40):

Dr. Because I wanna tell you something about

B (00:58:42):

Her. Yeah. Wants to be on the show who, by the way, Bravo and cocktails on a podcast. <Laugh> like this. Oh, she did a bunch of followers told me I don’t even know which podcast, but whatever she mentioned, she mentioned me. She mentioned our account. You know, she, she really wants in this house, wides world. She, so she turned on Marge because she’s saying Marge is blocking her from being on the show. So her claim on this podcast, or would she’s saying in public now where her statement is that, and I saw it on page six too. Was that Marge? Didn’t see Melissa make out with the guy, but Marge told her. So Marge told Laura the ex-friend of Marge’s that Melissa cheated with some guy weighed out with him, him

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B (01:00:20):

The friend. Laura said, the thing is Marge didn’t even believe the rumor. She just told Laura like, oh, this is what people are saying. So now do I think Marge said this? No, I, I think this friend is looking to get people to turn on Marge at this point. And in any event, Teresa, now this newest soldier, Danielle brought up the rumor at the finale party because let’s face it. Amanda, why is there bring, why is Danielle bringing this up? Theresa told her to mm-hmm <affirmative> the same way Theresa told other people to talk about the stripper the same way Theresa told Danielle stopped to pull Marge’s hair. There tells people to do things and like, I don’t know why, but they do it. So like, this is why mm-hmm <affirmative> and there’s gonna be more details we’re hearing, but they could just be saying that, cuz they want us to tune in, but <laugh> this is why Melissa and Joe didn’t go to the

Amanda (01:01:03):

Wedding. Yeah. Well, and so, so I haven’t told you this, but this Laura person, something that I think, I don’t know if the cocktails know this. So if this is something just you and I have talked about, we know this Laura person, this ex friend of Marges has been reaching out to a lot of like she’s reached out to, I think us she’s reached out to a lot she’s because we got those anonymous emails saying that she wants to talk about it. Right. But like, I think some of our, the other accounts she’s been reaching out to, I know that she reached out to two Ts in a pod and that they,

B (01:01:36):

Yes, that was so funny.

Amanda (01:01:36):

So a lot of people are saying no to, to her yes. To talk. Right. So somebody did say yes. And I apologize because I can’t remember the exact name, but it was something like Andy of real Housewives or something. If we, if we find it, I will, we’ll credit you in the show notes. I apologize. But he did this YouTube interview with her and Jan it, I, I can see why she didn’t make it on the show. She was at least on camera, boring. I mean, the guy was like pulling answers out of her. Just strange combination to me to be so thirsty. Cause we know she has been trying to get on whatever podcast, whatever show she can to talk about this. But then once you get your chance, like bring it right. And she was just sitting in this corner and just like would pause and then talk in this like kind of monotone thing.

Amanda (01:02:30):

And then he would have to like ask follow up questions. It was, it was just such a boring interview. And I’m sorry, Andy real Housewives. I forget what your name is. I don’t think it was your fault. It was her. Right. But I, I just have to say thank you to the producers for not putting her on the show. Cause I think she would’ve just super boring. And I think just hearing what she had to say, she really didn’t have much interesting to repeat and it, you pretty much said it all. It just seems like she’s just super salty about not being on the show and just that Marge couldn’t get her on and now she’s going after her anyway. But you know, we all saw, you know, you know, we’ve all been talking about before the wedding, did therea get a pren? Like what was the deal? You know, Bethany came out and said, said very publicly Theresa, you need to get a prenup. So this has been in, you know, in the kind of public conversation. What, like, what are your thoughts on that?

B (01:03:25):

So I did and I posted it. I get a, I get these messages that are very pro Theresa and I know it’s a specific, I don’t believe it’s the person’s real name because it <laugh>, it’s the name of a woman on Goodfellows on the good fellows movie. But in, in the off chance that it is the same name. I don’t wanna say it, but it’s always a pro to Reese. Yeah. So this person said something saying she did get a prenup. The girls monies are all in trusts. I hope that’s true. I mean, I think that’s fantastic news. I hope it’s true. So yeah, I don’t know. But this is what we’re told. We also got a lot of Intel on her former BFF who did not come to the wedding. I mean, she was the maid of honor. There were zero posts, congratulating her, nothing as a matter of fact, nothing about the wedding, but there were some cry posts about cutting people off who are toxic.

B (01:04:13):

It’s interesting. I listened to. So Theresa’s having, coming out with a podcast with somebody I’ve never heard of. And they did like a couple of minute clip, you know, to intro it. And the, the host says to her, oh, so what about Dina? And all Theresa says was Dina. So somebody posted and said Dina, while the cryptic messages and Dina wrote, I always post quotes. Anyone who follows me on a daily basis knows that. So Theresa’s response was, well, I heard that. She said she always posts, quotes. And so, you know, I wish her well. And it’s like, okay, if you guys did not have a falling out, that would not be the response. The response would be like, mm-hmm <affirmative> are you kidding me? Are you seeing her next? After the honeymoon? We’re getting together, whatever it is, if she really didn’t wanna be filmed, which was the party line.

B (01:05:00):

So they had a falling out that, that I she’s not even like strongly, she’s not saying it, but she’s not even trying, I guess she can’t because she doesn’t know if Dean’s gonna come out and be like, what is she talking about? We fell out. Right? So that, that piece of it is known. Okay. But what was it? So I get an email. We hear the fight was really about one of the daughters. I do not know which one confided in the best friend about something. Okay. In regards to the fiance, right? When the best friend spoke to the OG about it, what the daughter told her, the OG stopped talking to the best friend. We don’t know which kid. It doesn’t matter which kid. Right. Was it a general sharing? Like, you know, he’s not who he seems to be or was it something specific that they said to her, the OGs camp, again, it’s the, that same email and you know what I’m talking about, Amanda, we don’t wanna say the name, but so I know it’s the OGs camp sent in an email indicating that.

B (01:06:03):

So when I posted that they tried to spin it, that the BFF did something to one of the daughters. I mean, that doesn’t make any sense. <Laugh> she’s a mother herself she’s been in these girls lives their whole lives. That doesn’t make any sense. Right. This signals to me that will, whatever went down, definitely does involve the kids. The BFF was away with this couple, several times. She knows this guy. She was there when they got engaged. Right. She initially agreed to be the maid of honor. Right? So whatever she learned from the daughter or from whomever told it to her. Right? Cause she learned something was big enough to not only stop her from being the maid of honor and going, but stop her from speaking with the OG. So you can’t tell me, it’s just the girls don’t love him. Cause this woman’s remarried herself. She knows what it is to blend a family. She knows the hurdles and the struggles. So I don’t know what, I don’t know what the it is, but it’s something.

Amanda (01:06:59):

Well, I mean, if, if this is true and we’ve gotten multiple sources saying, it’s it since a while ago saying it’s not anything to do. It’s about the kids, about the kids. Something happened with the kids. If this, if this is what happened and one of Theresa’s kids went to the BFF and said this and the BFF comes back to there and says, I’m concerned and there did nothing and married him anyway. Then she’s effectively choosing and believing or will say believing a man with a record mm-hmm <affirmative> and lawsuits against him over her own child. So I could imagine the BFF is like, what are you doing? Right. Like this is crazy. And I could see there being a pretty big rift over that. Yeah.

B (01:07:53):

Apparently anyway, apparently Theresa still does like the posts of the BFF’s daughter. Like, oh, that’s cute. Whatever, cuz followers have sent me. So I mean, hopefully it wasn’t anything crazy. Maybe they just had words and the two of them being stubborn. I don’t know. I don’t know. I would like to think it was that they were being stubborn and not that it was something so big that was ignored let’s but I let’s out. Yeah. So anyway, yeah. Moving on <laugh>

Amanda (01:08:19):

Anyway. So humble brag. We were the first ones to mention Lizzie Ky as one of the new Rony reboot ladies. Now that we, we have not, it’s not been confirmed, but we’re hearing a lot of other things kind of coming out saying that this is true and yes, she is going to be, and if you follow her, which I do now, she is in New York. She just posted this picture. Very cute picture of her kind of in the middle of the street, just saying back where I belong. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> so we got some other names so that, you know, the pod, it was so funny cuz the pod came out that morning and people were already reporting on that like before noon. And we had only put it in the pod by the way. Right. And it was coming like right before noon, there were a lot of other people reporting on it. And then we started getting more tea on the rest of the cast being sent in to us. So, you know, nothing’s been totally been confirmed, but we’ve been hearing from multiple sources. So, and there’s a lot of I’m feeling

B (01:09:21):

Guys like I get, so what I post these rumors, like the rumored people start following me on Instagram. They’re friends start following me on Instagram. Like there’s a lot of different and I know we say this a lot. There’s old pieces to this puzzle and we are comfortable with some of the names and there’s a couple in there that like I’m really unsure and contracts have not officially gone out to everyone. People are still in some cases hoping it goes through. Right. So yeah. Yeah.

Amanda (01:09:50):

So we got an email about this. We did about Bravo con and what’s happening with that? Do you wanna read?

B (01:09:56):

I will. So we got some, some tea about what’s what we can expect at Bravo con Bravo con exclusive with Bravo con being back after three years, they’re planning to make it big. A lot of announcements of new shows, new cast members and returning cast members too. Here’s some of what you can expect from that weekend. A view style talk show with former Housewives to be announced. Lisa Vanderpump, Kathy Achille and Cynthia Bailey are locked in Rony reboot and Rony legacy official cast announcements, Jersey trailer, and debut of the new Housewives returning Atlanta housewife announcement for season 15, real Housewives of Dallas reboot announcement peacock with only two out of three returning girls, a new Housewives city announced in parentheses. It says an unexpected city. There’s a lot more in store regarding former Housewives returning to Bravo in various ways and new show concepts that are in a hundred percent in stone, but they still have two months to confirm all that start getting excited.

B (01:11:02):

Okay. So a couple things top source also says the Bravo con Rony reboot tip that we got an announcement for is true. We posted about the talk show a long time ago on the site, Cathy with Kelly, wouldn’t be on my shortlist. <Laugh> if I’m being honest, Lisa van D Pont makes complete sense. Absolutely. Cynthia now lives in California. I also think, see she would be a great Switzerland type as a moderator. Lisa would bring the classy shade Achilles based in New Jersey. I don’t think they wanna do virtual. I think we all wanna leave that world. So is she relocating? Is that name wrong? You know, I, I don’t know. I love the idea of Lisa and Cynthia and I don’t know who the third I would want, but

Amanda (01:11:52):

Well, there’s a very deep talent pool yes. With the Housewives. Right. And I think it kind of depends. I’m curious about like what the format of the show’s gonna be and that’s where I would kind of slot different people in. Right. Because if it’s gonna be like, I mean, is this current events when people say view style, is, are they talking about Bravo shows? Are they doing kind of like, what are they doing? Cooking stuff.

B (01:12:15):

Right. Are they gonna fly to Kathy in her kitchen? And she doesn’t even have to be with them. They’re like, all right, now we’re gonna slide over to Kathy and she waves and then we’re in her kitchen and she’s making can,

Amanda (01:12:24):

But I can see Cathy being really good in a certain, you know, like more of a Switzerland or, you know, and, and who knows? The thing that I keep thinking about though is like, will this impinge on Andy’s territory? What

B (01:12:40):

About a daytime show? Amanda? Like Bravo always plays reruns. Why not have a daytime show? Like their core audience? A lot of them are. I listen. So many people work from Holden these days and you can DVR. I know, oftentimes I get home and I shows that I like during the day, if I’m not home, I’ll DVR and watch. But for those folks who are at home working or watching their kids or retired or what the heck ever, why not have a daytime? I don’t think it necessarily has to impinge on Andy’s watch what happens, live situation.

Amanda (01:13:09):

That’s true. And think about it actually, cuz Ellen’s show ended. We don’t have Wendy Williams anymore. Right. It feels like there’s sort of a whole, I actually, I think that’s a really interesting theory because there’s kind of a whole in, in daytime TV, like who is still even there drew Barrymore.

B (01:13:30):

I didn’t even know that I’m so honestly, once Wendy went off, I’m like out of the game. I haven’t watched the view in years.

Amanda (01:13:37):

I haven’t watched. Yeah. I mean I daytime TV. I just, I don’t have time. I’m if I’m gonna watch anything during the day, which is very, very rare. It’s like if I’m sick, I’m usually catching up on the nighttime TV that I don’t have time, time. Same. So interesting back to the Dallas reboot though. Cuz there’s just been so much steady chatter mm-hmm <affirmative> about Dallas and then back to the new city, which I wanna hear you say it

B (01:14:05):


Amanda (01:14:07):

<Laugh> yay.

B (01:14:11):

Seven times a charm.

Amanda (01:14:13):

Good job. We’ve been talking about, we, you know, Scottsdale Winnetka. We’ve been hearing a lot about Nashville.

B (01:14:20):

You know the Dallas thing I have to say, I keep getting this right. And I’m gonna ride out with it, but none of my sources are confirming it. So I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. But all I can say,

Amanda (01:14:31):

Well, and what’s her name? Lizzy Ky. We know she tested, we it’s publicly known. Right. And published that she tested for Dallas and that they decided they were gonna table it for a while. But some of the chatter about Dallas who has said that it’s not coming back

B (01:14:49):

For. Wow.

Amanda (01:14:50):

Right. You know, at least a year. Yeah. So and the Winnetka thing, what makes me think again, that this could be true is that blind said a new show in an unexpected city that is in the same state as where the world’s tallest building used to be

B (01:15:06):

Sears tower,

Amanda (01:15:07):

Which in my mind is yeah. I forget what they call it now. But the building formerly known as the we’re we’re

B (01:15:15):

So clearly showing our age <laugh>

Amanda (01:15:19):

What is it called?

B (01:15:20):

I don’t know. I don’t. I know. So little about chick Chicago. Don’t don’t make me look stupid. That’s probably home. The fact I know about them and deep dish pizza and home alone was film there and the Datos were chili

Amanda (01:15:32):

<Laugh> and how to pronounce

B (01:15:35):

And it’s windy and it’s windy

Amanda (01:15:38):

And it’s windy. Okay. So what about this rumor about Andy stepping down?

B (01:15:43):

You know, I saw somebody post this and I, I just, I laughed because where did this come from? I’ve heard zero about this. And the person was like, oh he has two kids. I honestly don’t remember where I saw it. And I’m saying to myself like, so do I like people that are middle age, don’t stop working. Cuz they have kids. If anything, they look for promotions to make more money. Right. If he’s leaving it’s for something bigger and better, like it starting a new network or something, he’s not, I, I would be a shock to me.

Amanda (01:16:13):

Well there was that rumor that one of the main late night that he was possibly in the running to take over one of the main network late night. Right.

B (01:16:24):

So if he were leaving, it would be, I guess my shock is people saying he’s like gonna retire. If he’s leaving it’s to do something else bigger, he’s not gonna retire.

Amanda (01:16:32):

Yeah. We know he’s not. And we know he started his own production company. We know he’s not gonna retire and go follow the grateful dead, full

B (01:16:39):

Time with Austin <laugh> and

Amanda (01:16:41):

Follow John. He’s not gonna go on the road with John Meir.

B (01:16:44):

He’d like to

Amanda (01:16:45):

<Laugh> but I don’t know. I just, I, I think Bravo really needs him because he is that centralizing kind of force right behind the network. Right. And so I would imagine Bravo was gonna be fighting hard to keep him.

B (01:17:01):

I absolutely agree, Amanda. I totally agree. So, oh, there’s this other thing that I told you about a little birdie told me, and I didn’t get many details that summer house type show set in Martha’s vineyard, which totally. So they said like summer house slash Southern charm. So set in Martha’s vineyard <laugh> I don’t like it. I love it.

Amanda (01:17:30):

I, I think that would be a ton of fun. It’ll be interesting to see if it’s like nightlife type of like people working or if it’s just people who like live there.

B (01:17:42):

But also I hate when people send me like bogus emails, because like I have questions. Is it filming now? Why wouldn’t it be filming this summer? Why would they wait till next summer? Is this in process we need, I bet the process. So if you’re listening, please send me more details. Even if I have to keep them to myself. <Laugh> yeah.

Amanda (01:18:02):

Right. Send us pictures, send us pictures of them filming, send us who it is. And yeah, we need to know more about this.

B (01:18:12):

Yes. We need to know more about this. I think Amanda, we should maybe it’s time to share our little surprise.

Amanda (01:18:24):

Yes. I why don’t and I think you should, should wrap us up with the announcement.

B (01:18:28):

So we have some news. We have been working on setting up a Patreon account, more details to come on the official launch date. You know, we’re thinking September, obviously let’s all get through this summer, have some cocktails and then settle into the fall with a Patriot account. One of the things cocktails have been asking for is to get the podcast soon after we record. So that’s gonna be a priority, right? For our Patreon customers, subscribers, whatever word we use there, <laugh>, you’re gonna get our

Amanda (01:19:01):

Community, our community they’ll get early access, which is great.

B (01:19:04):

And get our you’re gonna get early access. We’re also gonna have this really cool thing where we use a discord server and there’s gonna be like specific time and we all log on and you can chat with Amanda and I about what’s going on in real time. So like maybe during a show, maybe I don’t know, Houser’s union is on. And we hop on before, after, during, and of course we’re gonna have super exclusive tea that gets spilled only on Patreon. And you know, when we did last week’s episode and I hope you guys liked it, it was to ask anything. And like we dug into the draft folder, we do get so much stuff. And a lot of times I kind of, it’s busy <laugh> I forget to post it. And there are some days I get so much that I totally, so now I’m gonna make sure that I am giving it all and I’m gonna give some of that to just our cocktails who are kind enough to subscribe as you guys know, podcasts are not free, right. Amanda and I are coming out of pocket to pay for editing and all of that sort of thing. So this is hopefully a way that we can improve upon our podcast by having the funds too, get editors that get it to us quicker and that sort of thing. So yeah, that’s the scoop and we hope you guys are as excited as we are to check it out.

Amanda (01:20:27):

We’re excited. It’s gonna be a whole nother level of access too, where, I mean, you can talk to us real time. So discord for anybody who doesn’t know it, cuz I honestly thought it was just for people who are like video game. People know it’s a place where, you know, only the people in the community can be so nobody else can see what we’re chatting about and you’ll get direct access. We’ll be on their live chatting with you guys. So you can ask those questions. There will be opportunities to vote and talk about, you know, tell us kind of what you guys wanna hear more. Maybe we can even go like a little bit deeper dive on some topics that we just run out of time for.

B (01:21:07):

So, and I’m a blur by nature. Like I just blurt things out. So like I know you guys have experienced it on <laugh> the podcast when emails come in and I just cut Amanda off totally off topic and read them, I will certainly be doing that on discord as well. So yeah, I think it’ll be a fun space and it’s a space for like, you know, the real deal fans to really hang out. So

Amanda (01:21:28):

Yeah. Yeah. So more on that soon guys, thank you so much for listening. We, we so appreciate, we’re seeing you guys give feedback on the podcast and we, we are reading it and we are listening and we are, we are definitely, you know, I think everyone’s saying our sound is better. We’ve really made a concerted effort to do that after getting the feedback that it wasn’t. So thank you. Tell your friends, we are here spilling the tea for everybody. For celebrity gossip for

B (01:22:00):

Oh Amanda real quickly. Oh

Amanda (01:22:03):


B (01:22:04):

Oh what? I totally forgot. This

Amanda (01:22:05):

Is gonna be good. Whatever.

B (01:22:07):

It’s you list blind with the lawsuit at, take her out guys. Take her out. I just repost it today. I will repost it when this goes live. Yeah. Angelina and Brad, apparently Ching cocktails.

Amanda (01:22:21):

You heard it cocktail

B (01:22:22):

Guys. We knew this, but yeah, that’s in the comments and we couldn’t say it then because you know why, but we could say it now. So yeah. Another, another win for cocktails and gossip.

Amanda (01:22:32):

Yes. Okay. So skiing at Huntington beach. Did you wanna keep that for I I would totally. I was gonna actually tell you skiing at Huntington beach. You wanna do that in Patreon? Or what do you wanna do?

B (01:22:42):

Yeah, I guess we’ll just have to go onto that. Okay

Amanda (01:22:45):

Everybody. Thank you for joining us on Patreon this week. So we have been sharing just, we have been saving just for you a piece of very exclusive tea about Southern charm.

B (01:22:59):

Okay guys, here it goes. This returning Southern charm star had a super sloppy company. Breakup it’s pretty bad. Her and her partner were best friends. They did everything together. Like the partner was the quote unquote employee partner. She did most of the work. So their friend group was completely blindsided. This Southern charm star blocked changed the locks in the middle of the night and claimed they weren’t real partners like real shady. No one can find the documents, but the friend, the outs partner, when we say the friend says she has it in text messages, some things though have to be in writing and signed. So the partner may be screwed. Friends of the Southern charmer just don’t see the angle. They were fine. Apparently it was a total blindside. People have said it might be be, it might be because of the Southern charmer’s boyfriend. They think maybe she embellished or lied to the boyfriend about their agreement. And when he heard her side of the story, he instructed her on what to do. They don’t think it was his fault, but it’s messy and sloppy. And no one knows why the Southern charm star did. It could be a big piece we don’t know about, but all of the friend group is confused.

B (01:24:26):


Amanda (01:24:27):

Who is this about <laugh>?

B (01:24:29):

Who do we think? Are we saying it?

Amanda (01:24:31):

Well, I mean, let’s talk about it. Cause I think,

B (01:24:33):

I think it’s Naomi. I, I only, and I, and I don’t mean to be rude, but I haven’t really kept other than her breakup. I haven’t really, until she came back to the show, but a lot of my followers have, and they’re like, what happened to her partner? So I guess it’s that clothing business. I’m guessing. I don’t know of another business and yeah, apparently she just outs this person. This is, this is what the streets of Charleston are saying. Because interesting. I have to tell you what I just read is a compilation of about six different sources, all Charleston residents, some friends, some just whatever. And again, there’s two sides to every story. But as things stand, we do know. And if she were not at fault, why wouldn’t she address it since she’s the one with the public platform?

Amanda (01:25:17):

That’s true. I, you know, as you were reading it, the only other person I thought it could be was Madison. Cuz Madison started a business in the last, I wanna say maybe in 2020,

B (01:25:28):

It could be. And is she still buddy, buddy with that girl? She start. Cause I don’t, I’ve blocked Madison when I got shut down because I was nervous. She was one of the people telling on me, which I don’t think she was, I should unblock her. But is she still buddy, buddy with the blonde girl that was like in the salon with her.

Amanda (01:25:42):

She started the business with oh, so I don’t know. And I actually haven’t seen if like what I

B (01:25:51):

Assume, tell me, see what’s going on. I had business about Naomi, but certainly Madison is another one. It could be,

Amanda (01:25:57):

It could be, you have

B (01:25:58):

To look into that. You

Amanda (01:25:59):

Guys know, let us know. We’ll talk about this. Yeah. Let’s talk about it on Patreon in the comments and we can get everybody. I know you guys are gonna help us figure out and get down to more details. So I also wanna share one other thing. I almost hesitate to bring this up because it’s so we have to, but we have to. Cause I think there’s actually an interesting angle to discuss that you guys will see here in a minute. So you guys know that we’ve been getting these emails about Jack’s and someone breaking a sink in a public restaurant.

B (01:26:36):

Well, we’ve been, they know that we’ve been getting a lot of Jack’s stuff. I don’t think we’ve, I don’t think we’ve mentioned the, the sink. I think we were saving it for our cocktails who came on Patreon because we thought that they would get a kick out of it.

Amanda (01:26:48):

Okay. So you’re right. And sometimes I forget cause we get the emails and I read ’em and I can’t remember what we posted and what we haven’t. So that’s that’s my fault. But we’ve been getting a lot of stuff about Jackson. We talked a few weeks ago on the pod about my wild theory that it’s actually Jackson, Brittany sending all this stuff in <laugh> cause even bad. Publicity is better than no publicity. Amen. Sounds like they might need it, but let’s read those emails and discuss and keep, keep in mind when you’re listening, listen to the pronouns and when there’s names, cuz in some cases there are just, there are not names named. I’m just gonna leave it at that. Right? Okay. So I’ll read couple from sex worker. Email is quickies,, subject bathroom, stall hookup. One of the V P stars pays escorts to hide in the men’s restroom at the gym and movie theaters, cetera in a certain stall. So blank can go on dates with his wife and cheat discreetly.

B (01:27:53):

So this is weird cuz this isn’t about Jack’s and Brit. Now do we think he’s paying escorts while, while they’re out to dinner, like it’s about Jack’s but she’s not meeting him in the okay, so I’m gonna read the next one.

Amanda (01:28:05):

No I’m saying what? No, maybe he’s going to the movies with his wife and then going and screwing somebody in the bathroom. Right. Is what I, the way I

B (01:28:13):

Read the, and the reason I got confused is because the next one I’ll read it quickly. Subject Jack’s Taylor in a bathroom stole guys. We got multiple <laugh>. Yeah. I saw who I think was Jack’s and his wife in the family target bathroom heard a loud noise. And I went in after to see what happened and the sink was broke. So that’s why I got, so the previous one is saying that he hides escorts in the men’s restroom. Now are women hiding in the men’s restroom or men hiding in the men’s restroom? We don’t know it.

Amanda (01:28:42):

Doesn’t say we know. And this one’s saying they’re in the family restroom. So if you guys are familiar, like there’s generally family restrooms where the whole family can go in and you know, change the baby and whatever. So they’re saying the family target bathroom, the sink was broken. I mean,

B (01:28:57):

I think it’s possible that he would have a bathroom fetish <laugh> <laugh> like, it’s so strange that we’re getting these emails back to back cuz this week it just was a lot of this and also the comments on another post. So I posted something. I forget if it was even about a Vanderpump rules person and the, there was comments left with a person mentioned Jack breaking a bathroom sink. So like why would a random care to keep bringing this up? Could it be Britney? And Jack’s looking for their name to be Vanda. Pump rules is filming. They are no longer being talked about. Is this their way of getting us to look at their Instagram, to look at whatever they’re selling, to make them a focal point again? Even if it’s a very unflattering.

Amanda (01:29:38):

Yeah. Or maybe somebody’s just trolling jacks,

B (01:29:41):

Right? It that’s another option.

Amanda (01:29:43):

<Laugh> okay. Here’s one that you didn’t pose. So total Patreon, exclusive guys, it was very, very left field, but maybe there’s some sort of connection that we miss. You guys can help us figure out. So we got an email about jacks and Julia Fox. I’m gonna read it. It’s from, we won’t say who cuz it looks like a real person. Subject Julia Fox and jacks Taylor. They have been bonding over being parents. Jax finds her titillating and exciting and has asked for picks of her feet in exchange for Bravo memorabilia. She is a huge P fan. Okay.

B (01:30:22):

So are her feet gonna be on a sync? What is the connect? Are we missing something and cocktails, is there a connection? Do we not know about do Julia Fox? And Jack’s like back in his modeling days, do an add together. Do they know each other? Do they even follow each other on Instagram? Like what’s happening?

Amanda (01:30:43):

I don’t, I don’t know. Then we got this other email again from a person’s name. We won’t say because I think it was a real name and person’s email, subject husband fixed a sink. Jacks broke <laugh>. My husband is a plumber for target corporation. He had to drive to the south side of LA to fix a sink where it is said Jack’s from Bravo during naughty times broke during naughty times with his woman. One of the employees said he is a regular there

B (01:31:14):

I can’t.

Amanda (01:31:18):

But did you guys notice that with his woman?

B (01:31:20):

So that means Brittany

Amanda (01:31:21):

And well, is it Brittany? Why wouldn’t he just say with his wife

B (01:31:29):

And why are they target?

Amanda (01:31:30):

Why a couple of these <laugh> why are they in the past?

B (01:31:33):

Like if you’re married, even if you’re right target. It’s not sanitary.

Amanda (01:31:38):

Just, just, just start

B (01:31:39):


Amanda (01:31:41):


B (01:31:42):

I, and also it would be more believable if it were like a restaurant where like you get a little cocktail up and then you do that. But like you’re sober in target like stone. You might have a little, a little caffeine buzz from your Starbucks, but you’re otherwise sober. <Laugh>

Amanda (01:31:58):

Is anybody else like sharing any of this or is this, is this I

B (01:32:02):

Have not heard of this, so,

Amanda (01:32:05):

Okay. So maybe it is somebody, maybe it is somebody trolling. You guys have to tell us, like, is this something you have witnessed? Is there anything is the P star who hires escorts? Is this even about him? Right? We don’t know. Cause it didn’t name names.

B (01:32:23):

Oh, that’s true.

Amanda (01:32:24):

We have to discuss this. We

B (01:32:25):

Kinda just assumed it was about him, but we don’t know that. So who else would it be? Who else is in a oh, is in a relationship that would hide somebody in the men’s was married. Does it say married? What does it say? Relationship?

Amanda (01:32:42):

Doesn’t it say wife? Hold on.

B (01:32:45):

We’re confusing ourselves guys. Because I was gonna say

Amanda (01:32:50):

Said one of the DPR stars pays to escorts to hide in the men’s restroom at the gym movies, et cetera, in a certain stall. So he can go on dates with his wife and cheat discreetly. So wife,

B (01:33:03):

I mean Ariana and Tom have been together a long time. People could assume that it’s his wife.

Amanda (01:33:07):

That could be because

B (01:33:09):

The only other person could be Jackson. Brittany.

Amanda (01:33:13):

Yeah. Cuz Tom and Katie are not,

B (01:33:14):

They’re no longer married,

Amanda (01:33:15):

Married anymore. Brock is not married to she ni. Oh,

B (01:33:18):

But people they’ve been engaged a long time. People could. That, that could be. That could be,

Amanda (01:33:24):

I don’t know. I guess the true tell will be as if Sheena talks about this on her podcast,

B (01:33:29):

<Laugh> the gym might be a Brock hint. The first thing they said was restroom at the gym and he’s a big gym goer. I don’t wouldn’t say Sandoval and certainly not Jack’s are big gym goers. Ha ha.

Amanda (01:33:42):

I think jacks was a big tune though.

B (01:33:45):

Remember he was, but now he pretends to go on his Peloton or whatever machine he’s Hawking. Isn’t he doing? Like the better body fitness with that fake bike?

Amanda (01:33:54):

I don’t know. I’m not really watching him.

B (01:33:56):


Amanda (01:33:57):

Blocked anymore.

B (01:33:58):


Amanda (01:33:59):

Well, and some of the best of us are. Yes. So thank you guys on Patreon. Let’s discuss,

B (01:34:04):

Let’s discuss this when we do discord too, we will chat about this. Yes. Because as always, you guys oftentimes put it together quicker than Amanda and I do.

Amanda (01:34:15):

And just a little reminder, anything we share on Patreon, please don’t share it outside because that’s gonna be part of what makes this community more valuable is this is, you know, our kind of conversations that we have that people who are not in this community are not privy.

B (01:34:32):

Right? It’s an exclusive club. And if people want in, they have to pay for it. Just like you did <laugh> you guys are the

Amanda (01:34:39):

Best. Well, thanks guys.

B (01:34:40):

Talk to you next week.

Amanda (01:34:41):

Love you guys.

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