184. Kyle and Amanda living apart; RHOSnakes on a Plane; Exclusive RHONY tea

Bravocon attendees, send us everything, no detail too small. Use the Send Us Tea button on bravoandcocktails.com, DM B or send us emails at amanda@bravoandcocktails.com and bravoandcocktails@gmail.com. Page Six ran a story confirming the tea we have shared that Amanda and Kyle from Summer House are living apart. We got some wild tea about RHONY that we are hoping is true – we’ll share it exclusively here with you. The RHOSLC episode we can’t stop talking about. Who do we believe? Meredith/Lisa or everyone else? Amanda has a theory on why nothing did get filmed during the plane ride. Was Brittani systematically and mercilessly bullied? We were shocked by the “open marriage” conversation with Whitney and Bronwyn. We each have theories about why this often taboo subject was shared on tv. Plus, tea on RHOA, Bravocon announcements, an Ultimate Girls Trip, a new talk show, and our thoughts on the RHOC reunion.

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cocktailers, cocktails. We are here on the eve of bravocon. Even though people are already arriving Amanda, the team is already freaking coming in. I am already I’m so excited. I’m nervous. I’m all the things. How are you? I am great. I feel the same. I’m very much anticipating this weekend ahead, because it’s it is really fun. I just read, for example, one of the cocktails ran into Captain Jason in Vegas. So people are arriving and heading out. And so our cocktail, or Andy Cohen himself flying out of Newark, which I’d love to know why he was flying out of Newark. I have to imagine it’s because of all the cancelations and everything. Yeah, so there and he flew out. Was it Tuesday? What was it Monday? I think it was maybe none day. I want to say yeah, he’s got a big job ahead of him. I can’t even there’s not enough eye patches in the world. No, seriously, he’s gotta, I mean, I would imagine every day there’s some sort of B 12 shot in the butt for him, an ivy Red Bull coffee. I cannot imagine the exhaustion that Andy Cohen after bravocon. I don’t know what the watch, what happens live schedule looks like, but if I were Andy, I would book a spa in Arizona, which is like, right there, yeah, after bravocon, and just veg out for three nights and then get all the liquids in me and all the meditation and yoga. Not that I’ve ever done any of that in my life, but it just seems needed after he’s just and then he has to deal with all the drama and all the talent like, and all their beefs, and they’re all going to be texting him and, like, I know he loves it, but like in our little corner of the world, it’s a lot I can’t imagine, like actually dealing with the talent in that capacity.
Must be crazy. It’s, yeah, I mean, I think the I’m trying to think of, like, if the only, the only people working, probably harder than Andy, are the people who are actually running the entire event, and the social media people, because the social media setting up, I also had videos sent to me, which I was asked not to share, of like, crews putting up at the, you know, Convention Center. Every part of it is like such an undertaking. It’s wild. So you guys are probably listening. It’s either gonna be it’s either Friday or Saturday, depending on whether you’re a cocktail member. Some of you might be getting ready to go to bravocon. Some of you might be just squeezing us in as you are on your way. We want all of you to arrive there very safely with no delays. Have a great time. We just want to remind you please do DM us or email us at You can use the Send us t button at the top, right at the top of the website. Don’t forget you can always put in a real or a fake email address. We won’t share your email if you want to send us something so we can follow back up. Send us your real one. We won’t post it. Don’t forget that nothing that happens is too small or too big. You might be even thinking like, Oh, I bet somebody else has already sent them this. Don’t just, don’t even hesitate. Just shoot us a quick note. And next week, on Wednesday, the 19th, we are going to do our post, bravo, con zoom. You’re not going to want to miss it, because we will be discussing everything that we get. So we will do a full debrief. This is again, only for members of cocktail party, the cocktailers who have been at bravocon and will have stories to tell us. We’ll be on there. Tracy is gonna have a baby on her hip, but is going to try to join us to give us her post bravocon download as well. And I guess we can finally announce that we are running a flash sale for those of you who are not yet members of cocktail parties. So you know that we get some haters sometimes that say, I can’t believe that you make us pay for tea, or that you make people for pay for tea and b I know you and I always giggle when we see comments about that, not because we think it’s funny, but because those people are really missing the whole point of cocktail party. Yes, we have the hottest gossip. We announced we shared the tea about Kyle and Amanda. We’ve broken scandal, like the of Lindsay and Carl breaking it up. Of course, like that, we have very, very hot gossip that we do not share. We have it first. We have it first. But it’s so much more about gathering these like minded reality TV fans to chat about all of our favorite hobby, which is gossiping about celebrities. It’s truly about cocktails. Cocktail Party is it’s truly about community. And we do that on the monthly zoom. We do it daily on Discord. We have the extra podcast. The other cool thing is, be an ideal text, because we’ll see that cocktails are getting together on their own and doing their get togethers, making their own friendships. And we as a group, celebrate the win. So we just had a cocktail or get married, who got engaged at Wolf in Tahoe, where Lisa Vanderpump has a restaurant, and so they just got married. So we got to celebrate that, and then we mourn the losses together as well. So we are very, very proud of this community that we have built together. We’ve had so many members say they came for the gossip, but that they really stayed for the community and the gossip. So if you’re interested in checking out cocktail party, we are throwing this flash sale just for starting now until Monday night at midnight. So you can get cocktail party, which is usually 750 a month. You can get two months of it for only $8 so you can join by going to Bravo and cocktails.com/join
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X, somebody else’s yum. If I see somebody enjoying something that doesn’t hurt anybody, good for them. So some people aren’t really that into gossip, or aren’t really that into Bravo or reality TV or whatever, and they don’t need a community. They don’t want a discord channel where it’s basically like, I don’t go on Reddit. But I have to imagine, it’s similar. We have our own everything, anything that you host somewhere else for 750, a month, you get it all us. So if you like Bravo, and you like gossip, and you like to chat about it, we’re the spot so, and if you don’t like it, that’s fine, but you don’t have to like, you know, whatever. To me, it’s just silly in any event, in any event, we have had a very difficult week. Are you tired by this? I feel like sometimes when things like what has been happening happen? We feel a little exhausted by it, because we’re like, Well, we know anyway. Are you feeling tired? For me, it’s very difficult, because when you get information that is as big as a breakup or a divorce on the horizon, you really do hope that it isn’t true, whether the couple has had issues or whatever, like you feel for them. But then, on the other hand, it’s like we’re in the business of gossip, and these people put themselves on television. They televise their weddings, they televise their entire relationships, and we know that they’re televising their breakup. It’s just that they’re not showing it to us yet. So like, our loyalty can’t lie with somebody who’s putting it on camera. It’s the same way, like I felt about Lindsay and Carl. I felt really sad to hear that they broke up. If a reality star feels like, How dare she share that? It’s like you shared it. You had cameras up during the whole thing, as Amanda and Kyle do right now. So you know what I mean. So, like, that’s how I could sleep at night. You understand what I’m saying? Yeah, no, and I don’t. I’m not saying, like, how are like, are you tired from that? It’s more like, isn’t it? It’s just so, I guess. Backing up a little bit, today, page six put out an article, an exclusive, as it says, was essentially exclusive, because we posted on Sunday morning all of the tea that we’ve been getting about Amanda and Kyle and their current situation and whether or not they’re divorcing, yes, and a source in the article admits the couple is going through a challenging time and says that they are not on a break, but that they are living separately. So here’s we’re gonna back it all the way up to when I finally decided to post. So when I get DMS from somebody who is somebody who follows my account and DMS me in comments like, whatever, Oh, haha, whatever, and then you scroll up, I have no reason to believe that this person would make something up about a Bravo CE or reality TV or celebrity and just send it to me. It’s not like it’s the first message I’m ever getting from them. Do you know what I mean? You’ve some history with them, exactly. So I heard from someone very close to them. This person told me that they heard from someone very close to them that they were split up. She’s like I heard that they’re selling the apartment now. Side note, I don’t believe they own their apartment, but I took it to me more like moving. So this was at the end of October. Last week, I got another DM, and the person said that from Amanda and Kyle’s inner circle, I’m hearing they broke up. They say that they’ve always known this person in their inner circle, and they’ve never heard anything like this. And like the people have asked, because we all know everyone’s always like, are Amanda and Kyle broken up? Yeah. So I heard from another person that at the Amazon influencer party, other than the photo ops where we saw her DJing with him, they completely ignored each other. They did not interact all night long. So this is all coming in, and I’m like, All right, this is enough for me to make a post and be like, Guys, this is what we’re hearing, which doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true, but smoke, smoke, smoke, fire. So I post that, and I get another DM who says, I won’t say the relationship, but Carl told their friend that they’re divorcing, and it will be shown on the spin off show, and that Carl hopes to make a few appearances on the new show, because he’s not slated to currently, but he is close with them, so I’m sure that they’ll utilize him to speak with both of them. Listen, I find it completely odd that they would be at all of these events acting like they’re still married, even putting their rings back on, because we know that we’ve seen them both without their rings. Amanda often doesn’t wear her ring. Is it possible that they are just going through a rough time? And the reality is, they do events with page six. Okay, somebody gave Page Six the go ahead to print that they’re having a rough time. That was their answer to how are we going to go through bravocon all weekend? I can tell you, there are no photo ops of them together. Kyle is with Carl. Amanda is with Sierra now, Kristen, dowdy and Luke are together. There’s one where they’re separated, but there’s one together, Nia and Danny, Janet and Jason and the list goes on. Similar shows have couples together and separate. They have no photo op together. So this is more serious than just going through a rough time period. Blank, they’ve been going through a rough time since they got together. Let’s call it what it is, right. This is obviously headed somewhere. Listen to me. Lover boy is valued at whatever it’s valued at.
But it has investors. It’s all of these things, whatever revenue comes in a month. There’s no prenup. How are they figuring that out? A lot of pieces to their divorce puzzle need to be figured out. So this is not so simple, of like clean break. It’s not like when Craig and Paige broke up and they just had totally separate things and ventures and they were totally separate reality television personalities. Yes, together. They were Boom bastic, but Paige was getting her own rate. Craig was getting his own rate. They were not a package deal. This complicates things totally outside of the fact that they own lover boy and everything else together, because there’s no prenup. 100% I’ve been living this with you, this specific subject for the last couple weeks, because sometimes there’s stuff that comes in that we discuss and do we post this? How do we post this? Where do we post this? And we really did on this one. Just decided to sit on it while we dug into it more. And like you said, as we say here at cocktails and gossip, when there’s smoke, there’s fire, and I think there can, you know, besides all the practical reasons with you know, they’re still figuring things out, you know. And we too, had heard Amanda got her own realtor to get her own place. It could be that they can’t say anything about their status, because it could be that they signed a contract with Bravo, with the production company doing the new show that says they have to keep their relationship status quiet for the show. It’s, it is, it’s, it’s sad, and there’s, of course, there could still be hope. You know that if we take them for the source that’s in this page six article as true that they’re really working on this relationship, and, you know, they just need time apart then, then we’ll cheer for them. But my feeling is that they were probably just trying to get through bravocon Before they could announce anything, or maybe until there’s the first teaser for the new show, something along those lines. I’m imagining that they’re kind of moving forward, as if they know that if they file that it will be national news, it’ll get picked up immediately. And it could be that they can’t and that they’re not allowed to, so they’re having to work things through privately and not file and not do that stuff so they can keep it as much on the download as they have to.
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I was saying to myself after we posted, they’re gonna have to say something, right? Because we I contemplated, we had all this intel on Thursday, and I really held off, because I really wanted to be sure. And so as other stuff came in, and we never know who’s sending us this stuff, there are new people on the cast it may or may not like them. You know what I mean? We never really know where this is coming from. But what I will say is we posted it on Sunday, and so from there, they said something to page six about having a difficult time today, which is Wednesday. They had to get ahead of it, because people are going to ask them at bravocon. There are a lot of cocktails, 1000s of them that will be attending bravocon, right? So you know what I’m saying, and I don’t know where they’re at in their split, or if they’ve decided they may be doing a trial separation, right? In which case a hard time is really the truth? Amanda thinks that they’re gonna file after bravocon, in which case you kind of lied to your fans, which I think people would understand, right? We, you know, they’re really married, like they really maybe, I don’t know. I think this. I think this gives them a little grace, because instead of the questions, it will be people saying, I hope you guys figure it out. Yeah, I think. And listen, Kyle and Amanda are both smart, so I think they were smart to do this, whether or not they’ve decided to really divorce or they’re just separated, they’ve given themselves the gift of fans wishing them well and not them saying, is that bitch Bravo and cocktails making up shit, or are you guys really split her them saying, you know, snide things, you know, to Amanda about, I knew he wasn’t good to you, the whole things like that, which cannot be helpful for them. And I do hear people really say that. I was listening to Heather McDonald, and she was like, people never really say that shit to your face. Yeah, that’s true. They just do it behind the cloak of a fake social media account. I just, I don’t know, I feel sorry for them, but I also feel like it’s not going to be possible for them. I think we’ll probably see cracks this summer in summer house. Obviously, this isn’t out of the clear blue sky. I wonder if we’re going to see more on summer house than we’re anticipating. In other words, because I distinctly remember when they first started filming for the spin off, because we knew about it and cocktails knew about it, just Kyle was at Lindsay’s house that first time we spotted the cameras, and we were like, yay. Cameras are up. We knew it. Amanda was not there. So maybe we see them split in summerhouse, and maybe they really are just holding off till February. You’re not gonna get till February. Kyle’s a very public person. He’s a DJ event. He drinks too much. He’s gonna spill some shit. Yeah, yeah, I think you’re right, and I honestly building on what you said, we’ve been seeing cracks in this relationship for a long time. You know, they they both even admitted that they’re going through therapy to try to improve things, and so it’s, I can’t say that anybody is probably super surprised to hear this news. It’s still sad though. Yeah, I agree. Okay, so there is some we’ll, of course, talk about Salt Lake City, but we got this kind of wild and exciting email that we have to share. So curious to see be what you think it is from Roni news. And the subject is, stay tuned. It says, Why do you think Roni is still on pause? Because Bravo knows it can’t flop for the third season, and it doesn’t want to admit that the OGS are needed at bravocon. We will be finding out the news. Aaron Jessel, Carol, Dorinda, Luan and Sonia, with two newbies, will be the next season. At this point, the women haven’t or have met and have been around each other for three.
Years, so it’s not so crazy that these women would be on the same show anymore. Filming will start in January, after the holidays, after we posted this email, Erin posted a picture, and she’s with Carol, so there’s that. Oh, that, yeah, it was just in my DMs as we were starting to record. Now, here’s the thing, Carol, Amanda and I had told you guys that we were really hearing and things weren’t completely finalized. We only knew that Cy Jessel and Aaron were back, but we were hearing that there was a very good chance that Carol would be back. I had a Roni source who DM me, and they were like, B I do know that there is a big New York announcement that we’re gonna hear, but this person said the per their source was being very coy about specifics, so they kind of feel like the email makes sense now, before this guys, I was told there will be no OGs. I mean, and I don’t even, we can’t consider Carol an OG, because, number one, she’s not an OG. She was on for a few seasons, and she’s been off for a long time, and she’s not a character in the same way that Sonia and Dorinda and Luann. You know what? I mean? Like they’re almost characters. They’re like Theresa’s or Vicky’s, you know what else saying they’re these big you look at them Roni, whereas you look at Carol, and she’s a woman who was on Roni, but she’s also like a true Manhattanite and all these things, which not to say the others aren’t true Manhattanites. I hope this is true, but this is just an email. So there is a big New York announcement. If this is it, I kiss your feet. People have ravalcon.com seriously, people are going to lose their minds in the best of ways, and are going to say, why have you waited so long to do this? And it also doesn’t mean that they’re full time, right? Like I could just see them mixing in. There is a way to do it. There is also a way to do it and have the other lady like the OGS, there’s a way to do it. Yeah, I think so too, and you don’t want to host them at Blue Stone Manor. Yes, and only a couple of the new people stay at Blue Stone because I don’t think they’ll all fit at that point. And the others stay at that hotel not that far away, which you know he and they do a dinner, and there’s some chaos ensues, and there’s ways to insert it where you’re making the season interesting, while also allowing us to get to know the newer women better, and then maybe slowly pivot the OGS back out again. I don’t know, but I do think that we may see some OG blood infused. I don’t see why not nobody, everybody has been clamoring for this. I can’t think of one person who’s who wouldn’t that we’ve seen comments or right on Discord who have said we don’t want the OGS back. And I think what’s interesting about this particular group of women in terms of the OGS is that they are all savvy enough to know that their place can come or go right because they’ve seen it happen to themselves. I would say that if they are in more of a we’re on the cast together kind of situation, they’re going to be smart enough to not get into those OGS versus the new school fights, and we can’t talk, and we’re shutting each other out. And that is one of the reasons that I’m like this could be credible, because I think those women get it.
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pajamas and just be so cozy? It would be so great. Okay, let’s talk a little bit about Salt Lake City, because this was quite the doozy. Once again. I mean, every week we keep saying this, you know, another great episode. So the ladies wrapped up their yacht trip and head home, but a lot of drama went down when the ladies were traveling, and unfortunately, the cameras weren’t rolling. Meredith is hissed that Brittany brought up in the previous episode A Tiktok rumor that Meredith’s husband Seth has a mistress, Brittany. I’ve had apparently shown Whitney the video, and Whitney admits it this week, but emeritus upset with Whitney, but Whitney says I wanted to, you know, since Brittany is the one who brought it up, I thought she needed to be the one to do it. So I told her that if she didn’t tell Meredith, I would. And before this is important, we’ll come back to why later. But before the ladies get off the boat, Ron Wynn goes to Meredith and says, Let’s dress up in inflatables and toss the creepy unicorn that Jared gave Britney into the sea. Then we hear that while the ladies were traveling back, Meredith, quote, unquote, lost her mind, made a huge scene at the airport, and then proceeded, and this is my words, harass Brittany and talk loudly about her the entire plane ride home with Lisa Barlow, according to Britney, so Brittany in her confessional accuses them of pulling her hair, kicking her seat, splashing wine on her. Meredith denies all of this in her confessional and later in the show and talking to other people and says no one told her to stop. No one arrested me, so it couldn’t have been that bad. And we see Heather be the first one to meet up with Brittany in the aftermath, Brittany has little to no makeup on. She looks like she’s been through the ringer, which is not her normal look. And Brittany mentions that she’s almost as just as upset with Lisa because Lisa joined in and Lisa didn’t stand up for her. So before we move on, b I’m really curious to know what you think, who is lying or exaggerating? Did Meredith and Lisa harass Brittany, or is Brittany exaggerating or making some of these things up? So I will say this. First, Lisa flies off the handle the second you say something she doesn’t like. So I absolutely think that she was yelling as well. Second, never in the history of housewives has an in this many women who agree on nothing else agree that this happened. Thirdly, when I saw Mary meet up with Meredith, Mary almost doesn’t have the capacity to lie about a situation. And when she kept saying because Meredith was saying things like, well, I know this is what you’re hearing. Mary kept saying, I was there, I was there, and then it’s like, Well, you were asleep. Well, you were this Ricky lake on watch, what happens live. Simply said, were there pills involved? And I will say a lot of people take sleeping pills on airplanes and mixed with wine or alcohol, or even not mixed, it can have an effect on people where there are things they don’t remember. Yes, and I to add on, to jump on to what you’re saying. I kind of feel like the Mary and Meredith conversation came from Meredith’s genuine worry about Meredith. You mean, and general, yeah, I think Meredith is genuinely worried about some sort of pills, something like that. And I think that’s the subtext of that whole conversation, like, are you okay? And that has always been rumored about Meredith, especially when traveling that she just gets very out of it. I remember, I don’t remember if it was last year.
Dinner the season before, but after a long flight, she was very like clearly under the influence, and it wasn’t just have her makeup done in the bed. Remember, because she was so out of it with the Mexico trip, I think yes. So there are all of these factors. And so something Heather said, and Heather pissed me off, a lot of ways, a lot of reasons. I actually, as much as Lisa Barlow, is the Lulu. When she said, Are you the judge and jury? Like this whole like Heather meeting with people and being like, the decider about what is this and what is that is, but one thing she said on Watch What Happens Live regarding, like, well, Meredith’s like, Well, I would have been arrested. Okay, first of all, there is a privilege that these women have. Number one, they’re on a reality show. They’re with a production crew. They have basically the entire first class, if it wasn’t them, it was production. And with that, even you can be intimidating somebody. But it’s not like, listen, I had a couple of flight attendants who reached out and they were like, one person said, I’m a flight attendant. I’m surprised. There’s nothing about this. I assumed crew signed an NDA. If she was that unruly, the crew would have had police meet her at the plane. Another flight attendant is like, when women have kind of been over served, and they’re kind of like bickering or whatever, we’ll move their seat. Like, I don’t understand why they didn’t move their seats, but I think, I think that Britney legitimately felt intimidated. And why would every other woman agree with it, except Barlow, who was also doing it. Every single other woman agreed with it, yeah, the one woman wasn’t there, but everyone else did well. And Lisa, I think, is heavily leaning on her own memory of this, which is she know, she was like, I just, I was just trying to diffuse things, and I was just trying to handle Meredith. And I just thought it would make it better if she would just show the Tiktok. And so I just, you know, short views that she was probably just show her the fucking Tiktok, just show it to show it to show it like, that’s right, like a Chihuahua, yeah? And I can imagine, too Lisa, being like, I just want to go to fucking sleep, yeah, just being tired and frustrated and that perhaps poking her to reactions that she is not proud of. You know, my husband was watching, it’s me, and he asked me this. He’s like, I don’t understand. He’s like, if this really happened, why didn’t anybody film it? So, like, Well, wait a second, wow, there was a whole thing last season about secret filming. So about Brittany secretly filming, what was the big fight in the Sprinter van? And so I think the ladies were probably scared to do it. And I would imagine, just as you said, the rest of first class was probably a lot of production. I felt really disturbed watching this production. Loves Meredith, yeah, so I don’t know I and the fact that Mary was like, Well, are you going to apologize? And also I something that I really took note of was when Meredith was like, at the breakfast, right? She was like, Well, I have no use for Brittany. She’s completely dead to me based on what she said, and she’s dead to and any one of my friends that remains friends with her, You’re dead to me too. And it’s like, oh, okay, but Lisa Barlow can say you slept with half of Manhattan. Like there’s such a hierarchy with Barlow and Meredith, like they really see themselves as untouchable, and then, like the other women who started with them, they give them a little bit more power, but like Britney, to them, is they just treat her like a total flake who’s useless and shouldn’t be on the show. And that is where, literally, last night, I’m watching it, I have to stop the show and just pull out my phone to take some notes, because I was disturbed. Because I’m like, hold on a second. If you think back to the first episode of this yacht trip. First, Meredith starts the trip by throwing water on Brittany and telling everybody else to do the same whenever she says jared’s name. Then they all make fun of her for hitting on Jason, and Lisa even says, Oh, please, Jason doesn’t want her, right? So nasty. Then they throw the unicorn in the water. Then whatever this whole situation is happens to the point where, again, Meredith, like nobody is even fighting about the fact that Meredith did freak out in the airport and yell at Brittany, and then I think it’s more of the extent and severity of what happened on the plane is really what issues, because even Meredith says, Yes, disturb their sleep and yes. So you guys know, I am no fan of Brittany either. I feel like this was systematic and merciless bullying of Brittany. And I think it wasn’t just the situation on the plane. I think it was thing after thing that had been done, and I feel terrible for her. Do I think that she should have brought up this Tiktok rumor? Absolutely not. But does she deserve to be mercilessly bullied like this? Absolutely not either. I’m with you.
I’m with you. Yeah, in a very interesting turn of events. Oh so juicy. This is so juicy. Bronwyn and Whitney get back together in Salt Lake City. Of course, they talk about the situation at first, but then Bronwyn says, well, Todd doesn’t behave on planes either. And the look on Whitney’s face, I thought it seemed either she’s a very good actress or I think she seemed actually legitimately shocked, because Bronwyn then says she made Todd stay in a hotel for a night because he was seen texting when he was on a plane by somebody who was sitting behind him, texting with a woman wearing lingerie on a flight. I’m betting this was a woman on only fans, and that he was looking for a last minute hotel room in New York City. So then Bronwyn admits that she is thinking of opening her marriage because she would prefer to have that instead of secrets or cheating in the marriage. So Whitney then talks about her quote, quote friends who have had different arrangements agreements in their marriage. She says that she and Justin are not in an open marriage, but that they have discussed it. So I’m so curious. Were you shocked by this conversation? I was do you think that bronwyn’s marriage was possibly already open, which is why they decided to have this conversation on television? Okay? Yes, I was shocked. I was shocked at the openness and honesty of this conversation. But I have to separate the two couples, okay, because there’s two very different things happening. I’ll start with Bronwyn. I think that Bronwyn has a lot to lose by not being with Todd financially. I think that Bronwyn is willing to do what she needs to do to maintain her lifestyle, and I think that she could be taking listen. We know that last year, she cried about him possibly cheating, and it was sort of this weird thing where then it was just an emotional thing they said at the reunion or something. Now that she’s a public figure, she thought that she would be able to be on housewives and be a star, and he could just skulk off in a corner on a plane and get together with women and bang them in Manhattan and get away with it. She’s learning that that’s not the case. Do I think they had an open marriage? No? Do I think that they had arrangement where he traveled a lot and she didn’t ask questions, and it was what it was. I think she’s willing to do what she needs to do to preserve her lifestyle. So I think this is a little bit of a flip where she sat down with Whitney and talked about opening her marriage. Do I think Todd is a person who would have an open marriage where the arrangement was, he does what he wants, she does what she wants. No, I think the arrangement would be that he does what he wants, he wants, and she spends his money and lives how she wants to live and is allowed to be on housewives. I don’t believe it would involve other men for her. That’s just my opinion. Those are all my opinions. What do you think about that part, honey? Ready for school? Do I have to go if traditional high school just isn’t working for your team? Let Penn Foster online high school open the door to a new path, flexible deadlines, your own schedule. It’s an alternative to traditional high school that’s totally online and can let your team earn their high school diploma on their terms. Learn more@pennfoster.edu
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A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches. Like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh yeah, you know, I just I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication, and then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
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I agree with you on, I actually agree with you on all of those points, I think that this conversation is a way of Bronwyn trying to save face. You know, more and more details and more and more things have come out that have probably surprised her too, because I think to your point, it was probably unspoken and that she just didn’t ask questions, but she also didn’t have to have somebody’s details thrown in her face, but neither. So now I think that she’s sitting there like, you know what? I can make myself okay with this, but he’s got to be more honest about it, so I’m not shocked when I hear it. And so that it can be that we have an open marriage, right? It’s like the conversation that I’ve had with my kids I make, I mean, it’s really totally different, but I tell my kids I need to know what’s going on, because if I get a call from school or for whatever, and I don’t know what’s happening, I can’t help you as much as if I know what’s going on, and you’ve told me, from your perspective, what’s happened, right? And so yeah, i My heart goes out to Bronwyn, though, because I’m seeing a woman just almost desperately trying to hang on to the life that she knows, even though so much else in her life has changed, she just seems so very focused on keeping up what semblance of the marriage that she can I don’t believe There’s a world in which Todd didn’t sign an ironclad prenup, regardless of what is said, I just don’t believe that. And I think she stands to lose a lot, and I think that she will pivot the marriage in any way she can to to maintain I really do. Those are my thoughts now where Whitney and Justin are concerned. First of all, we all heard the swinging rumors. We had it in cocktail when they were on the site, when for years, I have to tell you something, I had a couple of DMS today when Whitney’s in New York City and also at bravocon, she’s very flirty with attractive guys. And I don’t want to say young, because she’s, she’s a young woman herself. But like in their 30s, early 40s, like men and like, Whitney’s thing, she said they didn’t have an open marriage. But then she said something like, but like, you know, Justin understands that. Like, if I go out for a night and just have, like, so much fun, as long as I’m like, safe and whatever, it doesn’t change that he’s my partner. He’s my person. So in my head, I’m like, okay, so you’re saying you don’t have an open marriage, but clearly you’ve gone out and done stuff here or there. That’s kind of what I was hearing. Yeah, same. Whitney was also focusing, like, on her needs and bronwyn’s needs, which I found to be funny because they weren’t having the same conversation, right? Because Whitney was like, our husbands are older and like, they have to understand. And I think Whitney was being like, I’m young if I am in New York City for Watch What Happens Live. And Justin isn’t with me, and I’m at a club and I want to have a one night stand like, that’s cool, as long as I’m like, honest and safe about it and whatever. And Bronwyn is having to open her marriage, in my opinion, for her husband’s sake, not for her sake, because I don’t see that part happening, although I suppose if she was discreet, she could get away with it if it’s something she wanted. I don’t think any of us are going to call are going to call Todd and tell him. Well, no, Lisa Barlow will, yeah, she better be very discreet. So true. I think that Whitney, I’m just saying, I think that Whitney does. Let’s put it this way, when Whitney was hanging in New York City with Lindsay Hubbard, I’m fairly certain she hooked up. Yeah, I’ll say that. Very interesting. But I was surprised about the conversation because of the honesty of it, although I thought, first of all, I thought it was kind of cool for them, because I think it’s going to change their friendship, like I think it may will make them closer. But I feel like when Bronwyn and Todd first get together, he was very taken by her and very much in love with her. And I sort of feel like she loved that adoration and acceptance, because we know she didn’t have that at home. And I feel like that ship has sailed, and she’s sort of yesterday’s news, and she’s just doing what she can to maintain the marriage. I’m sorry to say it like that, but that’s just how I feel. She’s tap dancing, I agree. Yeah, so yet another great and then even the midseason trailer. The rest of the season looks so good, so good. I just can’t get enough. I really can’t Okay, so we hear that Shaw’s will be airing in January at the end, stuff we’re gonna find out at bravocon, some of it. Oh, okay, so I think I don’t, yeah, guys, I’ve been getting so much stuff. Like, I can’t even organize my own brain. This is gonna be us the next five days. Maybe we need to go to the spa, right? Jeff Lewis, reboot is starting to film in January. Like, I have to imagine that these things are gonna be announced, although we got an email like, oh, there’ll be no big announcements. Okay, bravo. We won’t post any.
Spoilers, oh, ATL is airing in March. Yes, we got some scoop. Shamia and Portia are still at odds, and a shock to nobody, Shamia and Kelly are coming for Cynthia, and the trip to Scotland was explosive, and the season is going to deliver. And I think I just got an email, or was it a DM, because first I heard we’re not getting anything from Rhode Island, then I heard pay attention to their to their Instagram. Maybe they will show up. And now I’m hearing we’re probably gonna see a trailer for Rhode Island. I have to guess we’re gonna see a trailer for Rhode Island. Why wouldn’t we? Yeah, I mean, it’s ready. People are saying it’s gonna be like the next it’s the next big show. I would be surprised. I will be one of those people watching social media to see if it looks like anybody’s at the airport or airport adjacent, because I don’t know. Here’s my thing with the Rhode Island ladies. We want the trailer, but it almost doesn’t matter if we meet them or not, because they’re not established reality stars who we know. So it’s like just gonna be a bunch of women on stage who we don’t know who’s who yet I know what I’m saying. I did hear that cameras may have picked up when Rula and the husband had the big fight and he got arrested, and there’s a restraining order because he put a tracking device on her car. So that’s juicy. But again, until we know her from the show, do we need rule is standing on a stage waving at us. I don’t know I want the trailer, though, and my thought is this, I think I whether we’ve gotten these emails saying, don’t expect any big announcements, which I kind of gave the side eye, because the reality TV world is watching the next four or five days while this is happening at bravocon. Events like this are a big amplifier for news, because everyone’s paying attention. I Why wouldn’t they announce some of these things? Because the other thing is, is those bravocon Tickets are very expensive. They’ve got to give people what they want more than just the panels or the little viral moments, or even the fan the opportunities to take pictures, the photo ops, that sort of thing. There’s we’ve had so many different show ideas, things they’re thinking about. We could hear about Southern wives. We could hear about something in Nola. We could hear ladies of London. I hear isn’t filming yet, which is kind of disappointed, but Carolyn Stansbury is going to be at bravocon. I keep hearing she will be making an appearance, appearance on the ladies of London. Also, I don’t know if this is going to be it, but again, why wouldn’t it be announced there is an OGS girls trip coming up filming the first week of February. I’m not allowed to say who I know that’s confirmed, but it’s big named OGs. I’ll say that. And then we get another email this week about another girls trip with a whole other slew of names. So we’re getting some of this at bravocon guys. We’re getting it. Oh, here’s the other one. The other one we got was Shannon, Sutton, Erica, Heather Dubrow, Mary Dolores, Karen huger, Lisa Hochstein. Alternatives include charay Mar poor. Charee is always an alternative on every list, Margaret, Dory and Lisa Barlow. And I would just like to say justice for sure, right? Because she’s not an alternative. In my mind. I love her. I agree. I would love to see her. I would love to see Nini. I would, oh, somebody said, Do we think there’ll be a surprise appearance by Nini at bravocon? I would love that cut Mimi a check and throw her on a stage, have her come out. It would be fantastic. People would be so I mean, I agree. People would be so excited. Vicki will be back on OC for season 20. I hear she’s in talks. Of course, she’s demanding full time. I’m sure they’re telling her it’s full time, but we all know that after all the attention she gets at bravocon, home girl is going to want to come where one back, one way or the other. All this Gina, oh, all the Gina stuff with Travis’s ex wife. Oh, a lot’s been going on with that this week. And one of our guests so sad that her and they say that she’s nutty, nutty cuckoo, and the exes not Gina, yeah, not Gina. The ex’s nutty, nutty cuckoo. The ex’s parents are super duper wealthy. It’s basically like just a nightmare, because, you know, when you have money, you get away with stuff that you shouldn’t. I mean the news this week that Travis had to call the police, because not only has the ex been holding the son from coming to their house, she’s been not letting him go to school. Oh, my God. Which is illegal, yeah, it’s and it’s illegal, but it’s also it could affect custody, I suppose. I mean, guys, I just get I know that I can tell you from experience with so many of my friends who have gone through really, really awful situations, get over yourself for on behalf of your children, follow the Michelle Dempsey, yes, it’s, it makes me all I think about when we’re talking about that, is that poor boy, because in his head, he probably thinks he’s, you know, sticking close to his mom, and he’s being manipulated, and it.
Yes, it’s so there nothing like that should be happening period. He should be going to school. There should be decisions that they’re making together for his welfare, for his siblings welfare. It just makes me so sad for that child’s
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Hi, I’m Dr Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter. In this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches. Like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh, yeah, you know, I just I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication, and then at that point we can probably identify something that we can change.
Hear the full conversation, plus some fascinating facts about how gut health affects so much more than just your stomach. On beyond the script, a podcast from CVS pharmacy and iHeartRadio. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.
I’m so curious to see what they do with OC. Do they just bring everybody back? I don’t know where Katie lands, because again, we’ve only seen one part of the reunion. Then there was the whole Tamara thing, where, because she had a very bad showing at the reunion, it’s so funny because she so clearly was like, okay, Shannon wouldn’t move forward with me this season, so I’m just gonna bark at her old reunion and be super nasty to her, because she has no you. I have no use for her. So then she does the reunion with Vicki with the coffee ad, and Vicki doesn’t want to miss the opening of an envelope, so there she is, and they got paid very handsomely, I’m told, and I don’t know, because I feel like production’s really pissed off with Tamara and the leaking, and now she’s on 2t clarifying how her podcast is different than bloggers, and it’s kind of like she does The same shit that we all do with recapping and sharing tea Well, not that we all do, because we have a lot of breaking news here, but she often cites our breaking news, which we really appreciate, and she has a great pot. But I also want to say about Tamara, I really like her on the podcast. Yes, I don’t think she’s who she is on the show. I think the show’s a job, and she just tries to keep it like a job. I found her, but I don’t know I found her unbearable on the reunion the way she kept telling Shannon to shut up, and just being so dismissive before, like, even when it had nothing to do with the two of them, when Shannon was talking about something else, she was just like, shut up, shut up, shut up. It was, and Shannon’s, like, it’s like, short circuiting, oh, because I think she was so surprised of like, am I? Is Tamra just not gonna allow me to speak out on anything? I think Shannon something about Jen, who I know that, like, production was really feeling her. She’s just so, like, obviously lying about some of the Katie stuff, like, and not knowing the stuff Gretchen said. And it’s like, it makes me and I, like, I liked Jen, but it makes me kind of over her. Gretchen has got to go, Yeah, I agree. I was costumes. She is a beautiful woman. And I’m with, m not with a lot with Emily, but I am with Emily that it looks like she was dipped in formaldehyde. The woman doesn’t age, beautiful. But what’s with the John names? I, I, yeah, I can’t help but agree with you on that. And yeah, Gretchen’s got to go. I don’t know, Tamara. I’ve.
I was so happy to see her come back to the show. I’ve generally always liked her, even though she does some very nasty things. I really like her on the podcast. Yes, there’s something that’s going on, something on the show, it’s just not, it’s just not working for her. And I feel like she has I like Tama on social media. I like her everywhere else, except for on the show. I think Eddie feels the same way. Oh, this is a little interesting tidbit. Speaking of OGS a cocktail, or was at Lisa Van der pump’s restaurant in Vegas that garcelles son Oliver works at the Paris it’s in the Paris hotel. They said he’s a doll, so sweet, so good looking. They chatted, and he said that his mom is working on a new show with Lisa Vanderpump. He said it’s more of a talk show than a reality show, and it’s gonna film in New York. So I was like, Well, I asked the person, is it Hulu or Bravo? They didn’t know, but I’m like, Lisa still has a connection to Bravo, because she executive produces, but her banter from villas on Hulu. Hulu doesn’t really have a talk show type thing, but they are expanding with a lot of new reality shows, so maybe they would do like a Watch What Happens Live, kind of deal, I know I so I could also see some kind of format like this working as a replacement for the after shows, I find the after shows to be kind of boring. I don’t know if I don’t always watch that. I feel like we’ve been hearing about a talk show for the longest time, like in emails, like they’ve been wanting this. Bravo. Who else would we want to see? I think Garcelle nailed it. I know we all have our issues with Lisa, but I think that she could, she could be good in this setting, like the Sharon Osbourne kind of effect, like a little that English snark. Yeah, no. I mean, Lisa is very, very funny. She’s very dryly funny. You know, who would be amazing that I would love for them to be bring back and I mean, she happens to be a Beverly Hills housewife, I just think she would be so good at it, because she’s very even Eileen Davidson. Oh, I agree. Because she can’t have, like, a Vicky who’s gonna, like, get offended by things and, like, start shrieking, or a Shannon. A Dolores would work, and it’s filming in New York. So a Dolores would work, yeah, a bigger, a more ensemble kind of talk show than with Gus coming in. But like, yeah, like the view Erica, Jane is so good on the podcast. See, I’m thinking of listen. I have to give Tamara and Teddy their due. They’ve done a very good job of building their podcast empire and picking women who are good at it. I agree, Emily, not that I love Emily, we know, but I feel like it’s always good to have that lawyer perspective, absolutely. And I think I enjoy Emily more when she’s talking about other people like I think that will be a good role for her. It’s not that I dislike Emily, it’s just she gets annoying when she’s having to share herself. I don’t like her delivery with it, but yeah, I’m here for it. I agree so guys, things to remember. Send us every fucking thing you say, Don’t forget. We can get video, like, not super long videos, but videos. And you can also email Amanda Bravo and cocktails. Tracy is going to be running around, yes, yeah. So it was a longer video, but we can get videos and pictures through the send us tea or brought cocktails@gmail.com.
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Out, because it’s coming out like this in the next week. So they’re probably like, there’s too much attention on Bravo. Bravo con. We need it back on Mormon wives, 100% and good for them. And we did get some bachelorette tea. Apparently, somebody was talking to a producer at a wedding, and they said it wrapped. But a couple of you guys were a bachelorette fans are like, be a part of it wrapped. Probably not the whole thing, but Taylor is apparently having a lot of trouble being far away from her kids, which obviously makes so much sense. She’s got her little kids at home. I don’t know how we’re gonna handle this next five days, because it’s actually November 13, tomorrow, that secret lives of Mormon wives comes out. Guys, don’t expect us to watch it yet. Yes, we will definitely be covering it. Oh, also, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Mary Cosby’s church examine new documentary probes, cult claims, oh and like that. Sucks for Mary, because we all forgot about that. It’s on T healthy. Well, it does really look interesting, seeing her preaching again in the midseason trailer on a note that is a non reality note. Tell me lies is coming back in January too. Can’t wait. I can’t wait. It is the most toxic. And I hear Lucy has a dark arc. How could it be any darker than it’s been? I guess we’ll see. All right. Well, be lucky by everybody. Have so much fun, so much fun. Be safe. Hydrate, drink all you want, but make sure to get some water in there. Don’t be like me when I Oh, last thing I forgot to mention, I started, for those of you guys who are members and who are not on Discord and going to bravocon, get on it, because there’s so much chatter going on, but I started a channel that’s just bravocon 25 for everybody. So you can talk about meetups. You can, but make sure you DM or email the tea. Don’t just leave it in the discord. Yeah, don’t let it into Convo goes fast and we could miss it, yeah. So Enjoy, guys. I think we covered everything. Guys, well, no, we didn’t. No, there’s so we got so much more tea, but we got all the we got all the most important stuff we did. We love you guys. Have fun, be safe.