74. Exclusive Lenny Tea; What RHOSLC Cliffhanger is Actually About; RHONY Getting a New Appleholder

We got exclusive info from a source about Lenny from Real Housewives of Miami. But the plot thickens, as we share some other information about the status of his house on Star Island. All in the same week, we get the RHOM trailer – it gave us chills. On Salt Lake City, the first episode started with the “shocking” cliffhanger when we see Heather kick the cameras and producers out of her hotel room – we have tea about what it’s actually about. There are a lot of rumors flying around about Sai from RHONY – and a Cocktailer did some footwork and sent us some very interesting information about the early days of her marriage, funny enough, coming from Sai herself in a VLOG from a few years back. We’re hearing the name of a new castmember for the next season of RHONY…and who she might be replacing. And Real Housewives of Orange County’s first reunion episode aired this week – not much that’s all that shocking happened…but we’ve got opinions…

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re gonna spill the tape. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com. And as always, is all alleged and just for fun. We do not verify our blinds. Be. And I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s teep
What’s up cocktail hours and Amanda? Hi V. Haycock Taylor’s so guys, we had some very, very juicy tea that be just posted today in cocktail party because you know, we record on Thursdays. I think we should start with that. Definitely. We posted it last night. But it was funny because one of a cocktail or messaged me and she was like, Why does this always happen on the third or fourth of the month? And I’m like, I never realized it. But scannable was on the third of the fourth. Kyla Marissa was third in the third of the fourth. Lindsay and Carl third to the fourth. And now this is third. Whatever yesterday was the fourth? Yeah. Chris. So I’m just saying that it’s beginning of the month. Yeah. Well, this was from a source different source. I think one who has given us accurate insider information. So why don’t you share it with us? Okay, so they said Lenny and his mistress broke up. The source said, I’m currently trying to get more information. But I was told that they have a pretty combative relationship. Ultimately, they had a huge fight after
the move to the house that he evicted. Lisa and the kids from that Star Island mansion. And the person said, I’m sure more more will be coming out very soon.
And then I’m trying to think back to when they got engaged. That was in August, right?
I want to say yes, yeah. And here we are in October. I mean, I am. I am not all that shocked. I mean, I feel like if he was this much of an asshole to the mother of his children, why would anyone expect that he would treat a mistress or another woman any differently? And then I can’t help but think like, did she just finally get tired of having an act like she was enjoying having sex with him? Well, I mean, so then the plot thickens, because of course we post this and we know the domino effect happens and everyone sends me stuff. Right. So I was sent listings. There’s a bunch of posh rental, home rental companies like figure fancy Airbnb, I guess. That Lenny’s mansion on Star Island is available for rent, as I said listed on several sites. I wasn’t able to figure out the pricing. You have to inquire
For pricing, but I just had a laugh that he evicted his wife and children to rent the property.
So I was sniffing out and I have some Miami sources. And so we remember that he brought up last season will Larsa excuse me brought up last season before Lenny and Lisa had split, that they rented their house and Lisa got so upset like, are you trying to say we can’t afford our lifestyle? Well, according to a source, Lenny always did want to rent the house, and I’m not sure if they did here on there. But insiders tell me that Lisa was always like, Listen, if this is what we have to do to maintain living here, why don’t we just get a smaller house that we can just always live in? Because it is a massive? Huge? I mean, I can you could understand that. It’s a mansion. Right? You know, I think she didn’t mind before the kids. But we know we’re moms uprooting your two young children. And I imagine if the people are renting the house, they want it mostly cleared out. They’re paying a premium. So you can’t very well have kids toys around and like closets full of clothes. Right. Right. So yeah, so he has done this in the past. And I wonder, I think it’s a lot of we’ll get to that. What do you think about the renting of the house? Well, I think it’s been what it’s been over a year, right since the divorce came out. So I think that he needs the money. I think he had over a year of that was probably the biggest part of him being pissed about Lisa not moving out is because he couldn’t, couldn’t rent it out. And I think he probably he probably it sounds like he probably needed the money. And we know he said we that the Halloween party, that he is still having it. So I mean, I would imagine that whatever weekend that will be, it will not be available that weekend. But right. I mean, what does he need that huge house for? I’m sure he is looking at it as like, really now hopefully a source of not hopefully for him hopefully a source of income. Because what is he you know, with one other person? You know, I doubt he, uh, he has the kids very much, you know, what does he need with all that space? I just feel like to like, something clearly struck a nerve with Lisa, when Larissa brought it up. Yes, definitely. It was probably one of those things that your friend wasn’t supposed to say on camera. That’s what I think. At the time, I didn’t know what to think. But as everything unfolded, Now, regarding him and the mistress, who’s now his fiancee, although he’s not divorced. We don’t know if this was a fight. And they have a volatile relationship and they’ll make up a couple of weeks ago, her Instagram was deactivated followers brought that to my attention. And then she was back on. Of course, after we posted this blind, the mistress seems to be a loyal cocktail her because she immediately posted a picture of herself eating you know how she does these videos where she’s awkwardly smiling with her new teeth and everything. And she’s wearing her lab grown diamond in the picture.
So I mean, that doesn’t mean anything the video could have been taken. Like it wasn’t in the video. It also could be an old video. We know that they are lab grown diamonds. No, but I am going to venture that if you have to rent out your Star Island mansion, you’re not that ring would cost upwards of 100 grand. Oh, at least we looked it up. I feel like we had a big number. But yeah, I mean lab grown would still cost let’s face it, right. So cost a lot but not I often look because I had this whole theory that a lot of people have led groans now which is great. And I’m not hating on a lab grown. Please don’t mistake me. I would very happily accept a lab grown. I’m just saying it just to be snarky, because obviously he acts like he’s so rich right with the mansion and everything. But how rich are you if you have to rent it out to a candidate. I’ve never seen a lab grown, at least that I know of a close. I never actually seen it in person either. But I look, I always look at jewelry online because I love jewelry. And this one, this one person on Insta always shares it’s a jeweler. And they show like lab grown vers whatever, and it’s significantly less so like, if 2.5 round would probably cost good quality right? would cost you like 25,000 plus a lab grown would probably cost you like 12,000. So it’s so expensive. It’s not like it’s not like it’s a Kubrick ciconia But it’s not the same as in mind, natural diamond, all of our tangents.
So okay, if I had to guess why, right. So why did they break up? I have to imagine they’re starting to discuss terms. Well, for one she’s seeing that he’s renting out the house. So maybe she’s realizing
Money isn’t like where she would hope it would be. Perhaps they’ve been discussing what a prenup would look like. In real time she’s watching Lenny’s prenup Hold Up With Lisa. Yeah. And she’s watching her get evicted and she’s watching all of this stuff go down. You know, we did a pod episode where we detailed the prenup, The mistress is seeing all of this lease is getting screwed. I have to imagine that would like cause her to want to discuss her terms with him because let’s face it, I don’t think she’s there for love. I don’t think he’s there for love either. Clearly, this is a mutually beneficial arrangement. She gets pretty things and he gets a pretty lady. Why does Why does a guy like Lenny Mary again? Control ownership?
Well, okay, so he Okay, so that’s a great point. So here’s another thing that an insider shared with me. For one I’m hearing and again, guys, this is all I don’t write all alleged. I hear everything’s in his kid’s name. So home girl wouldn’t be getting much if they split and he wants it that way, which I respect and I have to say good on him. But more over I think that we see on the show, I would I would say he’s somewhat controlling. I think that he is now with her in the Star Island Home and I imagine probably some condo that he runs right. And I think he very much is transitioning to
did you get the bananas? Remember? Did you get the peanut butter? She he has the kids half the time, I believe. Oh, he does have I did I did so you know who’s playing mommy when he’s not there. We don’t know this woman. We don’t know if she has any desire to play mommy. Some women fall very easily into the stepmother role Some women are isn’t for them. So here she is with this big house a lot to take care of a lot of responsibilities. And she’s used to just laying on a yacht and being a yacht baby. So maybe like real life responsibilities, combined with the money not seeming to be as shiny as it was. Yeah. You know, and the penis.
The penis is probably an issue I have to imagine it’s I have to imagine it’s not a selling point.
I can’t I just I always think about that. I’m like this is this is why I would be a terrible sugar baby.
I would never even make it past no actual sugar. There’d be no sugar. And we probably wouldn’t even make it past like, past the first like date. You’d be like, you have hair plugs. I’m out.
Oh are like Cheerios with his mouth open or like, you know, like, or picks his nose. I would be like, disgusting. I can’t handle it. Oh, the other thing that somebody said is that his mother is very involved. And you know, I think Lisa put up with a lot. And she’s the mother of the children. And so maybe she didn’t mind it as much. But I think that this girl isn’t loving the mother’s involvement and the mother goes there. And whatever front she puts on on social media, like I love that she loves that’s not the mother of the kids. I’m sure when his mother is there. She takes over like she’s the woman of the house. Yeah. And I just think there’s a lot of different variables and the stress from So Amanda Do you remember when guys a lot of this I haven’t even posted yet because legit was getting it as I was setting up my mic and new headphones. Tell us if we sound better. We got I know both of that podcasting headphones guys were like big time.
So what was he saying? Oh, there was other stuff you hadn’t posted yet. So So do we remember that? He tried to he had agreed to a certain divorce settlement. And then he went back and was like, wait, wait, I can’t afford that. Yeah, I’m hearing. He’s got to build Lisa. A new house. He agreed to it. Well, that’s why he went back. And listen, I’m not saying it’s a start Island house. But I have to imagine. It’s got to be a couple of million dollars. South Florida is an expensive area. Oh, yeah. More so post COVID. I can. Yeah. And for those of you guys who didn’t hear our previous episode that went into detail about this prenup, you should go back and listen, at least to that part. It was episode 38, which aired February 1 this year. It was extremely, extremely unfavorable to Lisa and so Katarina since we think she’s probably a cocktail or probably heard this and it was like, whoa, hold on a second. I’m not signing up for a prenup like that. Right? I would doubt I have a no doubt that Lenny would have in mind
He is going to structure a similar one with her if he really intends to even get married. Absolutely. But the Miami trailer did come out. So interesting, chronic crazy timing that it all kind of happened at the same time. I thought it was. I mean, I think the season looks amazing. I think the trailer was like kind of haunting like, how they are in that church, praying the Hail Mary and Spanish and English in the dark with candles and they’re talking about Gordy’s cancer. And that’s like, this whole prayer is kind of over the entire trailer. I got the chills. I feel like the editor should get a bonus for that one. It was so incredible. And it’s funny because a couple of followers actually like wait, why is there a trailer already? It’s it’s just now appearing on Bravo because I guess some people don’t realize that it was on peacock months ago. I do think that it’s moving over to Bravo this, this is gonna ask you that if it’s one of the promos made it look like it’s gonna be on Bravo. First, I got an email today and there was just a lot of information in the email. I have to still sort through it, but it did say something about it moving over to Bravo. I do think it’s genius, though, that they are playing the current season on Bravo now, because if I wasn’t a peacock subscriber, and I’m watching Miami, I’d be so excited to see what’s happening that it would cause me to sign up because I’m impulsive. Shout out hot tailors because you guys are impulsive too.
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so I don’t know I think I think financially it would make sense for them to stay. I don’t know how any of that works. But I would think it would bring over people to peacock but I did hear it’s going to be on Bravo. So I I have to look into that a little more. I’ll let you guys know, you know what stuck out to me, Amanda in the trailer.
remember a while back, we had received an email telling us that Alexia and Todd that fancy penthouse apartment they were living in. Yeah, that it was. So we know that Todd, his career is real estate and he manages properties and stuff. So the email had said that the penthouse they were living in was actually one of like a model apartment, or like one of the apartments in a building he manages and they were staying there temporarily. So it wasn’t their condo. And we see her I just thought it was funny because we see Alexia go, we have to be out of this apartment in 10 days or out of our house in 10 days. And then I don’t know if she said it or somebody said it about her that they have money issues. Yeah, so it just it looks I mean, the Gertie stuff is heartbreaking. We see Gertie getting into it with Larsa a little bit and we see Russell go Larsa be nice or something like the appropriate or something. So maybe we’re gonna see a little different side of Russell. I also heard there was some preview where Larsa gets bid. Did you see that? No. I don’t know which pre I don’t know if it was in the trailer or somebody sends a spoiler. But essentially, they say that, like they tried to make it a thing. And it’s like Heather’s black eye. And ultimately, Marcus gave her a love bite and it’s not anything but oh, sorry if I gave her spoiler alert, guys, but whatever. And as long as you guys come to us for
another source told me that Larsa got into it with everybody on the cast with the exception of Marisol and Alexia. Hmm. So it looks great. You know, I’m hoping that this divide that we talked a lot about at the end of last season that we don’t see that continue to carry and where it’s Larsa and Alexia and mighty soul against everybody else.
So it’s just no thank you. I hope that that they can come together a little bit more than that. I absolutely agree with you. What did you think about Salt Lake City? Oh my god.
It was it was great. Okay, so go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say so let’s start with the whole because there’s a lot of I mean, there’s some great Mary one liners that we can discuss. But I mean starting out with like the big thing that happened right where Whitney and Monica, decide that they need to set Angie down to tell her that Meredith is spreading this rumor that Angie, Kay’s husband, Shawn, cheats on her with men, and that she knows and that they have an arrangement. So I have to imagine we’re going to see Meredith deny this. There’s no way she’s going to cop to outing Shawn Meredith is an ally of the LGBT community. We know that her son Brooks is gay. She actually did a tic tac. I forget it was some voice over that was basically like, how could you say how can I say that when something whatever. Also, we remember that the whole reason she didn’t talk to Jen Shaw for like two seasons was because she accused Jen shot of outing Brooks. So I don’t know where the rumor started. I think it’s possible. It’s not Meredith. passable, it is her but Meredith is saying I know stuff about her is different than going around and telling people what it is. And that’s because Whitney said no, Meredith didn’t tell her what it was. So we’ll see. I don’t know. It’s if Meritus smart. She was not going around saying it. She was just saying I know that what people are saying about him. Well, the other thing is what we know, because we have an email that tells us is that Angie turns on Whitney, we see that she turns on Whitney this season. So I think Angie thinks Whitney has more to do with the rumor than Whitney would like her to believe. Do you want to read that email? Just to remind I will. Okay, it’s from snowflake tea, email, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. insider@bravo.com. You guys know that’s just a fake email. Okay, says spell it. Angie brings up a horrifying truth about Whitney, which she heard from someone close, and about how Whitney might be funneling funds for her new jewelry line. This is the bombshell of the premiere, that cliffhanger sort of. So just to remind everybody, this is what we saw Heather allude to in a hotel room where she throws the camera crew out and says she lied to all of us or something
of that nature. We also had an email around that time they were on our trip and Whitney was on the outs with most of the cast. My opinion is that Whitney and Justin are in financial trouble whether there’s truth to funneling funds or whatever. I do believe that Whitney is very dependent on her wife housewife salary, I said more dependent than most but certainly I think Monica is probably dependent. It’s interesting how without breaking the fourth wall, you can’t say to like the other girls can’t say to Whitney, you’ll do anything to stay on the show because I need them. You need the money. You know what I mean? But clearly, you can see that the rose family is feeling the pressure. We see Justin finally going back to work after having the non compete clause for a year. We see the stress of that. I am interested to see how this jewelry line drama unfolds. Like what is true. Obviously if it’s legally something, we’re going to find out I hope it’s not.
Yeah, a couple of things that stuck out to me when they brought up the non compete. I was like that is so strange that this is the first time they are bringing this up. I feel like
Andy even asked is just in working at the reunion. Nothing was said about a non compete. Nothing was said about a noncompete when he lost his job. And I think the other straightaway vaguely remember it from last season. Am I making that up in my head? Oh, did he say Did they leave? I feel I kind of tuned Whitney out but I vaguely remember that. Okay, well then maybe I’m wrong. But I don’t remember hearing about that because I in my like real job, work with law firms amongst other kinds of clients. But there’s a lot of talk about non competes completely going away and
They’re not really enforceable anyway. So it just made, I was just like, Huh, that’s really, I’m just questioning whether that’s really why he’s just now going back to work. But I will say like one of I actually thought Whitney had one of the more real moments when they were talking about Justin going back to work. And that, it seems that he was just assuming that she would take on all of the home life again. And that is like such a real situation, I have so many friends who are working moms who have the same kind of struggle for that default to their default parent, even though they still you know, they work. And they have all the, you know, mental load of all the, you know, getting all the phone calls when the kids are sick, all the emails about organizing snacks for sports, all the texts about you know, for homework and texts from other moms about playdates and about all the school events and signing up for whatever and school projects, etc. You know exactly what I’m talking about. I totally related Amanda to Whitney in this moment. And you know, I never relate to Whitney. Yeah. But I can say in my own experience, the mom is expected to be the default parent. And it can cause it’s something that I think couples really do have to communicate about. Yeah, because it certainly can cause resentment. And over, just speaking from my own personal life, from my close friends, dynamics change over the years to you know, sometimes I know myself when my kids were babies, I took more on not because my husband asked me to or X, I almost expected it of myself, if that makes sense. Yeah. And I find I think a lot of my friends felt that way. And what ends up happening is, it’s almost like, and, you know, maybe this is changing for for younger girls. I hope it is certainly I hope for our daughters, it changes in the same way that I definitely feel my husband is more present than my generation, or at least what I saw in my household as far as sharing duties. But I think that as they get older, a lot of times moms kind of turn around and they’re like, wait a minute, like, I work to, like I know now with sports and stuff. Like I don’t know, when my kids were little and I had to pick them up from the babysitter or whatever, I almost wanted to be the one to do it. And because you know, you’re at work you I can’t explain it. But I do know, in my own life, and what I’ve seen with my friends, that has evolved a lot. And I also think
I know that remote working has changed a lot of dynamics for families, because the parents one or the other is working from home, which obviously if you’re working from home, you can get to the school quicker to pick the kid up then. Right, right. So there’s families always have to evolve people’s work hours change. I mean, you and I now with our website and our podcasts, I work a second job now. So you know, my, my husband has to pick up slack where he hadn’t before. And I just they and his kids get older, you know, if you have more than one kid, like, you can’t possibly do practice for two or three or four kids. Right? One person and we always say it takes a village. And I know you and I are fortunate to have our Yeah, our I won’t even say mommy friends because it’s parent friends. Right? I have friends whose husbands work from home or are the stay at home or what have you. And they’re the one who does that drop off and pickup but I related to that. And I think that any family, any body who has a partner and a child, or more than one child can relate to being like, okay, but like, like even when your husband or your wife’s job changes, right? If a partner is like, now I’m working different hours, I’m not going to be able so how are we reworking this? And why does it always befall the mother? Yeah. Yeah.
It’s a tough one. I’ve been through it as well, because it part of it too, is like, I want to be the one involved. I want to be the one who is on the PTO. I want to be the one who’s, you know, helping set some of the play dates and that kind of stuff up to but and then resentment sets in when it’s like, Wait, why am I doing the fourth practice this week? And you’ve come home from work and chilled, right. And I’ve done work cooked a meal recorded a podcast and now go on a soccer? Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, talking about myself. I’m just
Yeah, but no, you have to be open. You have to communicate. And I sort of felt like, I didn’t really like Justin’s response. And I feel like in the past I’ve kind of seen him as easygoing, affable. likeable, right. And I kind of didn’t
Like, he’s like, Hey, I’m going back to work now. And she’s like, Yeah, dude, I’ve been working, and I’m still splitting the kids stuff with you. So like, now we’re splitting it two ways. Yeah. His answer was not like, when, you know, when she said that, he wasn’t like, Oh, you’re right, let’s talk about this. He was like, Well, I told you, I’m going back to work. Right? Like, it was not what I would hope to have from a partner, partners response. And I also actually thought what she said about having her 13 year old, who kind of needs more of them, I can’t identify with that enough. I’ve said this to so many friends that I feel like I’m so happy that I have job flexibility. And I can be the one to pick, I can pick my kids up most days, because I have the flexibility to decide what my meetings are. Because I do feel like they as they get older, they need you more, right in a different way. They you know, you need to know what’s going on at school and, you know, being in the car with them and talking with them. And being there is when they can, they’re definitely not going to tell you what’s really going on when you sit down at dinner and you’re like, how was your day? You know, totally and the other thing is I it’s funny because, you know, you guys know, I always talk about my sisters in law. One is my age with kids that are my kids age, and my other sister in law is a little bit younger with younger kids. And like, it’s hard when they’re babies for different reasons. But I like sent to her. I’m like, Wait till they’re school age because when that bell rings, you have to be there. It’s not like when you pay for the daycare, the babysitter, you pick them up when you’re done. Right, right, it’s done, you better pay for that after school program, pay that nanny to go get them or be there yourself.
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and the sports and all of that like when they’re babies at least when your workday is done and whether you have a nanny at home or if you’re super lucky and you have a parent who can help lot like your grandparent who whatever it is. Once you’re home you’re home. Yeah, like once you gotta get in that car and hit the road and you and I live where there are seasons and it gets harder in winter boy
as I will tell you as I was picking up my son from practice at the end it
At 830 So he comes out at like, 840. I’m sitting here thinking I’m like, Oh my gosh, when daylight Daylight Savings happens, right?
It’s gonna feel like midnight. Anyway, but yeah, I mean, I think, you know, kudos to Whitney for having a real moment and for showing that to us because it it felt very, like you said very relatable. Um, okay, the only other thing I mean, there’s so much other stuff. Mary had some great line weight, but Mary, like, out of nowhere, okay, we just out of the clear blue sky, turning to Heather and she goes, Heather, you like that necklace you’re wearing? And Heather’s like, I do it. And it’s like, Heather knows exactly what she meant. I do Mary, I thought it matched by just complimented my jacket, my toner. She goes, Oh, no, you missed on that one. And like some followers are saying like, this isn’t entertaining. She’s mean, just for the sake of being mean. But it does still entertain me because I just can’t fully take it seriously. It’d be different if one of the other women did it. But I just feel like she lives in her own world that it’s comical. Like, it’s almost like she kind of thought maybe Heather would want to hear her advice. Right?
What about Lisa getting banned from a tanning salon? And then like, like, if that happened to me, I would never tell you. I would be mortified. You basically went to an establishment that knows you. Were you’ve been a client customer for a while. And through a shit. hissy fit and got banned, and you’re bragging about it? I mean, it sounded about right. To me. I mean, that she would act entitled and decide that even when they’re closing that she still can tan like I was not shocked by that. I think that’s the real Lisa. I was mortified for her. Yeah, that’s not what I would repeat either. Okay, so let’s move on to New York, because I feel like there’s been a lot going on. You know, obviously, we saw the show, but there’s been a lot happening on both Bravo and cocktails and on cocktail party,
regarding some rumors about sci fi on the new New York cast, so to be clear, we have zero evidence of this. But there’s a lot of internet buzz saying that her husband, including some people who have used their real names to say, just say this on comments on other people’s posts. That size husband was married when sai and her husband met. There’s also a rumor that he owned a bar that she worked in, and that they had an affair while he was married, and then got together after. But then what is really interesting is an internet sleuth uncovered that while the bio on her blog says that they are married in 2009. The New York City marriage records show 2017. And then there’s a lot more detail about this in an email.
So I’ll do I read it. No, you read it. And what’s interesting, though, is somebody actually went I’m just explaining it for our listeners, somebody actually went to sighs blog and got this information. And okay, so this is information that she shared. Yeah. And now with these rumors, it just seems Yes. And we also know that she hides her husband from her influencer Instagram, which to me, isn’t that weird if he’s not into it, but it just now brings up the question, is there a reason for it? Right, exactly. So this email is from somebody and they wrote this to us. They’re, they’re talking in the first person. So this is the person talking, not me. So the subject is Roni, and this is what the person says. I did the legwork and looked into this, in one of her flogs a q&a from 2021 psi mentions that she and David have only been married for four years. So that would have been 2017. But together for a total of 13, which would have been a beginning in 22,008. She states that they didn’t marry until after the birth of her second child. She then stayed set for the first eight years of their relationship. So that would have been while they had their first daughter. They didn’t share a home. She says he lived in Montreal at the time and would travel down to New York City to be with her for one week on one week off. She enjoyed it because she’s very independent. That means that according to the horse’s mouth, saya and David didn’t live together and he wasn’t a full
Time New Yorker until 2016, when their daughter was three, and they are probably pregnant with their son. What would stop a man from living in the same country as the woman he loves and has a child with? Very interesting, just saying. And so, so here’s my thing. Clearly, they’re married. Now they have two children. They’re still together. If it is true on it, I’m hearing that the ladies will all be asked back. So if she decides to continue on the show, she’s going to have to address this. She should, in my opinion, confirm what parts if any, are true, obviously, from this email, explain why it wasn’t a job. Did he have some great job there? And that’s why he did the one week on one week off. She wasn’t yet an influencer. So why wouldn’t she have lived in Canada with him again? Explain it. If it’s BS, she should say that. But either way, she can’t run from this at this point. It’s we know how the internet works. We’ve seen housewives we saw Marge Joseph, when she first came on Real Housewives of New Jersey admit that she cheated on her first husband was the plumber. And you know, by owning her story, she didn’t have these insidious internet rumors, right? It could all be nonsense, and there could be an easy explanation. You know, where he and his wife, perhaps married legally, but no longer together separated? Like Laura says boyfriend pool? Sure. That’s a possibility. Yeah, either way. Here’s her storyline. And she better give it to us guys. I mean, what was her storyline this year? There was none. So I don’t know. And then she and David are at dinner with Abe and Aaron and talking about threesomes. But then also talking about Jessel and pivots sex life. At dinner, I was actually quite surprised that the guys would go there. I thought it was icky. I mean, the the rest of the conversation was fun and light. They’re speaking about themselves. But I didn’t really enjoy the women talking about Jessel sex life in a group with or without Jessel there, I just felt like they were kind of shaming her. And we’ve had this discussion on the pod. And I think that so often people in general are made to feel like if you don’t have a strong strong sex drive, or you’re not having sex all the time, you should be ashamed of it. And certainly I felt that some of the women gave that vibe to her like I can’t believe I could never go it’s like
sometimes you have to just listen to your friends because what’s norm for one couple might not be norm for the next and
I just didn’t like it. So I found the men discussing it icky. Get a life. I also didn’t enjoy sighs lunch with Jessel No, I do see sighs point about Jessel sort of comparing her uncle’s alcoholism to size mother, not the same. It’s not the same. Your mother is your mother period. And it and maybe sigh she sort of because she is closed off. And I don’t think she is a vulnerable person. So maybe that made her shut down and why she had to end it and kind of be cold and rude. So I can see that maybe that really just shut her down. You know, because she really was like, she’s like, I don’t care. Actually. I gotta go. Yeah, I mean, I kind of like if you are that closed off, are you going to make the best housewife because everyone is who they are. Right? It doesn’t make her a bad person to not be an oversharer. But it does make her not a good choice for reality television.
It just felt you know, I think indifference is almost worse than it just felt. So mean, I just, you know, and I get it. Like if somebody’s 40 Limited, say it for lunch with me. I would be I would be pissed too. And I probably would have left after a half an hour and just been like I’m gonna pick something. You know, like, let’s pick this up another day. Because I don’t have that kind of time on a Friday on a workday. Right, like, right. I get it. But
nothing. There was nothing that Jessel could have said. I feel like that would have gotten through to psi. And that’s where I just felt like she just, she’s just got it out. It just feels like she’s just got it out for Jessel and nothing will change that. Well she kind of said, right when they sat down before the uncle thing which I’m gonna I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt and say that that probably was a trigger because I could see I mean that I could see how that would be upsetting. But when she first sat down she said something and she was like so like this
could have been an email or a phone call. We didn’t have to meet and Jessica was like, No, but I wanted to get together and catch up and have a nice lunch. And, and so I was kind of like, so dismissive. It’s almost like she was saying, like we’re filming together, girl. I have no desire to be your friend. Yeah. Yeah. And I wonder why that is like, I don’t know. I don’t know. I think Jessel like definitely has some quirks but I find her very, I find her likable. I didn’t endearing. Like, in a way sometimes when somebody is so quirky. And it’s their honest way.
You’re in a group of women. I don’t know. I just Yeah, I don’t know. I have just not been a fan. Like, I would love it. If Psy was like the badass who doesn’t take any shit. And then, you know, but like, I just haven’t seen really, you know,
you have to see the soft side of somebody. And I just haven’t really seen it with her. She also just seems disinterested. I think that you really hit the nail on the head like, she seems very disinterested and detached. detached. Yeah. And I saw an interview with Bryce Sandler. Sadler, I’m probably saying it wrong. Sander. Yeah, Sandra. Yes. Great. And he he did an interview with her and she was saying how she wasn’t happy with her edit. They focused on her being hungry and this and that. It’s like, what else did you give him? Like? She certainly highlighted her.
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I don’t know. As I say, I hear they’re asking everyone back. But if they weren’t going to ask someone back, I think it’d be her. Yeah, I think that’s pretty good consensus. We are hearing that they are looking at adding somebody and we did get a name. So we’ll share her name and we’ll talk a little bit about her. So her name is June Ambrose. She is and this is from the internet guys. So you know if we get any details wrong. I think it’s probably her website. Yeah. Okay. She is an Antiguan born American stylist, costume designer, author, Creative Director, influencer and TV host. She’s currently the creative director of women’s basketball for Puma. She is best known for styling, prominent hip hop and r&b artists in high fashion pieces. And one is was one of the first designers to do so most notably for artists such as Missy Elliott, and Jay Z and popular 90s fit music videos, which is like totally our vibe. Yes, I just added that part. Yeah, Ambrose was born in Antigua in 1971. And grew up in the Bronx. She attended talent unlimited high school, worked in investment banking, did an internship at a record place. And then that’s where she started styling new artists. She’s designed for over 200 music videos was the costume designer for a 1998 film a stylist on The X Factor. She’s published a book called effortless style, and in 2012 hosted her own reality TV show on VH. One, she was hired at Puma in 2020. And in 2021, released her first fashion line called High Court which is the first ever women’s basketball clothing line released by the company. Oh, that is so cool. I really want to look into that. Because I love like athleisure not that I play basketball or any sport, but I feel like I like to look sporty. I love the sound of her. I mean, her it reads like she’s got such great life experience. She’s mingled with all of these well known Hip Hop people, artists and fashion and a real New Yorker and like that’s not to slight anyone who any one of them who aren’t. But I do think on New York you need real New Yorkers born and bred. Well, she was born in Antigua but she was raised in the Bronx which makes her own New Yorker. She’s close to Jenna’s age. i Okay, I don’t this is not confirmed. I got an email today. That said there’s a very strong chance Jenna
isn’t going to return of her own choosing? Which, if that’s the case, this woman makes even more sense. Yeah. Because I feel like she could just slip into that role, which I think is an important role to have on a show like this. Because it’s almost like not quite the same, but like on Southern charm how Patricia’s like you almost need a matriarch? Right. And somebody who is truly aspirational, right, like not just because they have money, but because they have earned their respect in their field. And they’re a badass of their own. Right. So yes, I agree. She would make a lot of sense as a replacement for Jenna.
I just I hope that Jenna stuff isn’t true. I don’t know if she’s fully decided. But I think it’s more likely she won’t be back. I think all the other girls will be asked back I wonder, I wonder in regards to sigh to this help or hurt her business? And is because you don’t make at least your first season you don’t that much money to be on the show. And clearly she makes good money from her influencer career. So
is she somebody who takes a step back? And, or quite simply because she’s so guarded? Like, if any of it is true, even if it’s that her husband was separated? If he’s still married, she’s gonna get some slack if he was still married, when they got together, because there are going to be those people who are going to presume that she broke them up, even if that’s not the case. Right. And I And honestly, because she didn’t own it, and like, tried to hide it. It makes it seem like she’s trying to hide something. Yes. Yeah. I know that he does have a child from his first marriage. So which again, does not mean he was not divorced, but it just, she shouldn’t even address it now. Like she’s on. She’s on her page being like laughing at my DMs Ha ha ha. How about like, go like doing a live you know, all the accounts, myself included, are going to record and repost that says, Listen, here’s what it is, you know, shut it down. The reunions already filmed, so Oh, frickin start filming the reunion later. Bravo. I know because again, let’s let’s head into the OC reunion. Amanda, I am so shocked after the DUI, like to the point where it even showed like against a black screen with white type type on it said that this was felon What was it 12 days before Shannon got a DUI? Yeah. Yeah. Shannon doesn’t seem like she was in a great place on the reunion. Okay, I am very proud of Gina. I think Gina said it eloquently. I think the fact that Shannon could remember one out of three of her children’s names proved Gina’s point beautifully, and whether you know, listen, and Emily said it beautifully to mentioning CPS. Okay, I preface this to say Gina was dead wrong. for driving under the influence of alcohol Period. End of story. Gina is responsible for her actions. Gina is responsible for the time that it comes that her children find out that this happened because she is a public figure whether Shannon said this or not. There’s always the possibility though Google and see this news article. Right. However, bringing CPS into it. When you’re on the same cast, let’s not even call each other friends. I wouldn’t do that to my worst enemy. Unless I truly thought the mother listen her kids were not drinking car. Okay. Yeah, like making a poor decision. Had her kids been in the car, I would have a different opinion. She was not endangering her children. So unless you know that a parent is endangering their child. Keep CPS out of your fucking mouth when you’re talking about them and their kids. Period like yeah, I can imagine a worse thing to do to a woman to a mother than and to do it on national television. Yeah, is disgusting. Particularly when you’re a fucking hypocrite because you were drinking and driving 12 days after and the fact that she didn’t just sit there and go, Gina, I apologize for saying that’s all she should have said it was wrong. I should have never mentioned it. Being drunk isn’t an excuse.
I’m sorry. She kept defending it. And it was like even pre DUI watching it was cringe post knowing what we know it was. I don’t know. I agree. I agree to be
So sanctimonious when you yourself are guilty of it. It’s nuts, nuts, nuts. I also wanted to call out Tamra and Jen fighting. I mean,
first of all, another situation where I can’t believe Tamra just didn’t come out and said, I really way overreacted. I was all over you all season for no good reason. I’m sorry. No, Tamra yells, you’re a piece of shed at Jen. I think really, just because I think Tamra is just one of those people who just lashes out when she’s mad and says, you’re, you know, shit like that. Right? Yeah. But, so she does that. And then a minute, maybe an edited minute, but a minute later, then Tamra says Then tomorrow actually finally does apologize for coming at Jen. And then she says, I love you, Jen. And the thing that I was I was very, very proud of Jen, that Jen didn’t come out and say like, it’s okay. She didn’t say I love you, too. She said, I think we’re going to agree to disagree. Which I was impressed because I feel like Jen chose her dignity.
Over staying on the show at all costs, because somebody who wanted to stay on the show at all costs would have been like, I love you to Tamra, it’s okay. 100%. Agree. I also love that Jen pointed out something from many years ago that new viewers don’t know. And old viewers like you and me may have forgotten. And the internet wins every time because of course, somebody went and dug up the old Radar Online article that I’m going to share. But Jen said you’re a cheater. And Tammy goes, How am I cheating? I’m with my husband, 15 years. And Jen says yeah, and you are married to Simon when you got with Eddie. And that is true. Remember, the Internet was not as big back then. But let us not forget. There’s a picture that’s on Radar Online of Tamra Simon and Eddie. Now I don’t think that Simon and Eddie were best friends. I think Eddie was a friend of somebody Simon was friends with but nonetheless, they socialize when Tamar was married. And from the radar online article, it says And again, this is going back all those years ago. I walked in and I saw Tamra with a friend of mine, Edie, Judge Simon told Radar Online. I saw them holding hands and acting like a couple. As soon as Tamar saw me she let go of his hand and walked away. I went up to Eddie and asking if he was ething. My wife. He didn’t say a word. Well, wow. My wife told me she was in Los Angeles. I ran into her in Las Vegas with our friend Eddie, our mutual friend. I come to find out. They have been with each other. I guess this has gone on since December. Not only did she cheat with her ex boyfriend but now with Eddie. What a piece of shit. So Simon alleged that she was also cheated with an ex boyfriend. I don’t know what that’s about. I’m just reading this old article that right? You, you followers are so savvy and you dig up and you sent to me. I did remember that. That something went down. I didn’t. There was some shakiness around the beginning of their relationship. But at the reunion, did you see how quickly? Tamra shut up, shut it down. said she loved Jen. Because yeah, as soon as Jen said that, that’s when she backed down. Yeah, you’re right. I didn’t think about that. But you’re absolutely right. That’s exactly what she did. Because she’s like, Oh, we were getting subs getting too hot. I better calm down. Yep. She didn’t think Jen had a dinner. And Jen did kind of say it meekly. And then she did just let it go. But the moral is this First of all, as Emily said, as Andy even said, it’s nobody’s business if she cheated on her husband, and if her boyfriend cheating on her that doesn’t make Jen a bad person. Right. But the fact that Tamra got together with Eddie in the same fashion that she’s getting together with Ryan is the most hypocritical thing ever. Who’s to say that her and Ryan aren’t going to last now? Her and Eddie did? Yeah. I mean, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I mean, in look at it, I mean, that that feels like a theme for the whole season like was Shannon and Gina and yes, now Tamra and Jen.
And you know what Shannon and Tamra are perfect for each other. And Vicky falls right in there. And Amanda, what do you think about this rumor and again, this is from a source and this is not a guarantee thing, but rumor has it Kelly’s name is in the mix.
Okay, I’m I would be surprised if it’s true because Kelly Dodd wrote that wear that hat for her bachelorette party during
The height of win 2020 When there was so much going on with the Black Lives Matter movement where she What was it housewives matter? Or what did that say? It was offensive? Yeah. And I don’t I just would be surprised if Bravo house I forget what it I forget what the hats but he both said the same about why Ramona wasn’t coming back and then enough time passed that they put her on a girls trip. So yeah, but Ramona didn’t do what she did publicly where the viewers could all see it. Right. As an allegation from Ebony, that’s an allegation. Right. Right. And so I don’t know, I think it would be interesting. I, I don’t know that I really would like to see that happen. Partially because I think Kelly Dodd is problematic, like, and I think that that was awful that she wore that hat, but I also don’t I don’t like her on a general. I agree with everything. You’re saying. I also don’t like her I think. I don’t think she’s a nice person. I think she’s very vicious. Yeah, yeah. And I don’t want to see that all the past stuff. Like I like, I want to see new new stuff. And I have really enjoyed seeing. Like, I liked seeing Jen as a mom. And I’ve liked seeing Gina and her transformation and getting sober and things like that. I don’t you know, grew on me this season. She truly did. Because you know, I never had any use for her. Yeah, I think Heather, I think Heather could have went in a little bit more. I think she very much was trying not to come off too strong. I think she leaned into the victim at the reunion, because listen, rightfully so I do think that she was ganged up on. I think they had an agenda. I think Shannon and Gina and Emily and Tamra kind of took a page from Beverly Hills, and we’re like, let’s just gone for her and like, we’ll kind of keep things copacetic between us. And Heather smart enough to know that. But yet at the reunion, she didn’t go into detail as much as she could have. She didn’t call them out as much as she could have. She also really in a couple of moments, sort of pledged allegiance to Andy and Bravo. Like she’s like, Yes, I did see the producer at the airport. I did say get me off the show. It’s because you guys were ganging up on me. She said, I appreciate this platform. I love Bravo. I, I came back. I know how great this platform is. And what a wonderful opportunity I have to be here. So that doesn’t sound to me like somebody who’s running off the show, or is she trying to stay? Yeah, there we go, girl. I thought Heather came off is so unlikable all season, and then more of the same on the reunion. Like she I just I don’t know, she was just so on likeable to be I just didn’t. Yes, I agree that she got ganged up on. But I think that she just she speaks in such a condescending tone.
She always has though. Ah, but it’s maybe it’s just really grating on me. Because there’s I don’t know, I don’t know, how would she be if if it was an even playing field, like Beverly Hills? Because for all her money, okay, the one thing she wants is to be a star. And if she was on there with Garcelle, who is a true star, and Kyle who certainly has had much Hollywood success and is just as wealthy as her if not more wealthy? How would she be with people who are her equals? Because like, let’s face it, she’s selling her house for 55 million. These girls are not selling their house for a million. Right? Oh, also another I have some respect for Gina. She came out on Instagram because Andy asked a shady question to Heather dobro. How much what happens live who’s like who to get the lease for their home? And Gina goes, Andy not nice. Number one of however many people on the show, I’m one of two that actually owns my home, right? I’m 20 years younger, 10 to 20 years younger than these other women. And my home is in my name solely. So this narrative that I’m somehow trailing behind is bullshit because I am a homeowner on my own. And I’m younger, and I’m a single mother of three little kids and basically didn’t say but basically saying I’m doing it on my own. I don’t have a rich ex like Shannon. Yeah. Good for you, Gina. Good for you. Well, we’ve got part two to look forward to. Did you also find that set like I thought it was really pretty, but I felt like it kind of hurt my eyes to have it be so bright behind them. I felt like they were trying to save on budget and they may cancel the whole damn show altogether.
Really, and you know, I was so excited for Tamar to come back
And I think that she can be great, but she can also be insufferable. And she’s just too willing to do anything to stay on. And it’s why the fans turned on her to begin with. And then we missed her. Because OC sucked. And now we’re kind of back to being like, No, she’s not the answer. Yeah. And you know what Vicki ate the answer either. And sure, is how the DoD is not the answer. No, no agreed with that husband of hers who like if Kelly said, because I see clips on on Instagram, I don’t follow her. But where they do their podcast, and literally, if Kelly’s like, the sky is green, Rick will be like, Well, Kelly said the sky is green. And I could tell you, if you look at the sky, from an 87% angle, you could see that it looks green. And it’s like, shut up. I mean, she must have some magic. You know what, because he is whipped boy.
I mean, it’s ridiculous. That’s funny. I haven’t really seen much of, I’ve seen like stuff pop up. But I haven’t watched any of their clips from their podcast. So now I kind of am curious to see that that’s too funny. Well, he walked away from a great job, right in New York, like, which just seems crazy, like crazy to me. But anyway, cocktail hours, we love you. We know there are so many podcasts to listen to. And we know everybody’s busy. And you don’t have all the time in the world. So the fact that you choose cocktails, and gossip means the world to us. If you enjoy us and our pod, please do remember to leave us a nice review, because we love to see it. And you guys it makes our week when we get emails, or we see reviews like that, that we’ve we’ve gotten some great ones this week. And it literally makes our week and it like helps us keep going. Because there are some weeks that are just so crazy. And it’s so busy. And it just you know, like this is this is something that I feel like everyone who listens, we’re all kind of building this together because you guys send in content, you know, and you send in blinds, and it’s just really It feels great when you guys say nice things. Yeah, not mean things because it really does it makes it makes our week and just keeps us keeps us when I keep going. I always make it online, Amanda because when we get a bad review, Amanda gets really upset and I’m like, Amanda, if we were if you really okay, if you really dislike us that much. But you keep tuning in, you don’t really dislike us, like I don’t listen, like you, okay, you might not agree with us or whatever. But something about us is causing you to tune in the numbers don’t lie. So whatever, like Cardi B says, I forget what she says. But it’s something
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