87. RHOSLC Tea; B and Amanda Together Live in NY

Well, the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City finale was shocking – but Cocktailers knew what to expect 🙂 We discuss the finale and all the tea we’ve gotten from sources plus we dissect what Monica herself had to say on her Instagram Live. And Amanda and B record together IN PERSON for the first time ever. We may or may have been drinking a little Prosecco, too.

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tape. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com. And as always, it’s all alleged and just for fun. We do not verify our blinds. V ends I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tip
What’s up cocktail hours high cocktail dealers so I think you guys knew when we told you but Amanda I am recording here with me live. We have not stopped talking us like since the second. We saw each other and we’re like,
anyway. Yeah.
Cheers. We have our Prosecco number one. I don’t feel like recording the pod because I just want to hang out. But also, I feel like a really professional podcaster because Amanda and I have never recorded anywhere but alone in the closet. Sometimes we do come out of the closet. And we sit at like a table in our house. If our children are not home. I inquire upgraded. I have moved out of the closet. I have been doing it in my office. I think the sound has been fine. I think it was cry. I think it was the microphone that I found. We remember I did a Google search and I was like they redid this number one. It was cheap. It was 20 bucks or whatever the one that was an expense. I don’t remember that before. I think were more expensive. And these are way better. So and it looks super official the other one, but clearly, hacking my mic in my suitcase. My my brother sent me this today, it is a pod that you can buy. Look at this. See, we can show each other things in person. Now. Look at that. So it’s like a box. And you could like put it in your basement or I guess anywhere. I think it’s like $25,000. So if you guys have all your friends listen to us for the next.
I love it though, for Yeah, we were Yeah, we have not literally not stop chatting. Since we started. We’re gonna get to the questions about ourselves later. And of course, yeah, tell Pon because we asked you guys to ask questions. You guys all want to know who’s cooler. B is I’m fine.
I’m five, seven and Amanda you’re just I think a shrink. I’m just under five, five. I’ve always been five, five. And I’m like now five, four and three quarters. So I lie. I say I’m five seven, but I’m really five six and three quarters. And at this point in my life probably five six Stop it. No I feel like you well, like so I give up very cool. We’ll have the kids measure us out because we were both wearing boots with heels on. Yes, we’re gonna give you guys a backwards picture so you get a nice shot
we’re gonna have one of our kids take it our kids are hanging out. They like immediately to each other which was really cute. Their teenage Can you sign him? He’s like, where’s the he like? I’m like, Oh, you guys are already gonna play some video.
game like,
I don’t even know what an HDMI is. And when we came to my dad’s condo, that’s when people wanted to know, we came to my dad, they must have finished the construction here near I’m walking around. I could I don’t like these neighbors, I’m telling you, I mean, we should go knock on their door and just say like, can we see the work you’ve done?
To see your backsplash and let’s say this going on, we feel pretty invested in at this point.
We’re gonna do Salt Lake City, because you guys need it. You want it? Yeah. And like, honestly, it’s still feels very new to me, because I’ve been doing New York City with my kids. And so like, I watch, but I’ve been minimally like, obviously, like, following Rob and cocktails, but like, minimally online, so and then like, caught up a little bit on Discord last night with some of our cocktails. So I’ll sprinkle in some of the comments that they had. Did you feel the scream of excitement when I texted you and said, Holy shit, the email the source. So we had heard a couple of weeks ago, we had heard a while ago, actually in November, that it was about Monica Instagram account, all of that. And I did post it in cocktail, but I wasn’t really confident. And then two weeks ago, a source told me that and that’s when I was like, I really think this is it. But guys, we never really know until Yeah, so there’s always that at least I feel nervous that it’s going to be something totally different. And everyone because people love to ignore when you write but boy, do people want to be like dabble in cocktails had it wrong. So I texted him and I was like, Oh my God, I know you’re out to dinner. I know you can’t watch it right now. But it was exactly what we wrote. And it was exactly down to the name. The real volunteers. Yeah. And I want to say it was towards I mean towards the beginning part of the season that we first posted and talked about this. So right you’re right, we’ve had several dealers have known but so before we like go into too many of those details for anybody who hasn’t caught up we’ll pause it right now because obviously we don’t want to give any spoilers but we’re going to talk about it anyway. So come back to this once you’ve watched Salt Lake City this episode well, let’s go back to the first episode. So the first episode we had that very like we see the ending first which is very dramatic, right? Like should others freaking out and telling production to get out of her hotel room? And we know that she learned something really shocking. But we then didn’t they then jump into like the regular beginning of the season. So we know we’re gonna have to wait until the end to find out what is so dramatic. So we know that all the fans have been spending the season speculating what’s been going on? Yes. So first, you guys, viewers, you guys who inbox me who email us. This is very divisive, Amanda, because on the one hand, you have people who think this was the greatest episode and plot ever. And were shocked even pack tailors who we had posted about it was shocked that it was actually that as was I and then others who are saying it felt fake. It’s too campy. So then what I always do, which is go back and round the ball, the post to make a master post so as I’m looking back on a lot of the intel we received that said Bermuda was not and and this was during filming, right? And all the women basically turned on one person throughout the season. I was saying to myself, Monica makes the most Yes, right. Wouldn’t you have? Yeah, we see we did get the Intel a few weeks ahead of the finale that it was about Monica was about the Von Teese account. She had multiple aliases. She didn’t pay beauty lab, there’s we posted about so weeks and weeks ago, we got an email that Heather was right. And it was totally out of context. And nobody knew what that was about. And then a couple of weeks after that, it came out that Monica was doing Heather and then we everyone learned it was so it’s been wild. So this account and a lot of our followers are asking me about this account. So this wasn’t a huge account, right? All of us creators. Okay, me Larry Ali Pesta, bravo, bravo historian, all of us who do this real moms. We all know this account, because this account was actively trying to get information. Yeah. And how do you get information out there? You send it to content creators who post about Bravo. So what wasn’t a big account like 200,000 followers that the viewers or the account us content creators knew the account, I can only speak for myself and my, my, you know, I know Larry and Ali and Sara. I live for Bravo, we were blocked this account and we don’t specifically remember because you have to understand there’s a lot of internet trolls and crazies who send us stuff. But I had blocked it from my OG account just because they were all threads and stuff was getting dark. I remember it was what you said I think dark and I also which is why you guys know and Amanda, you know, I really didn’t enjoy last season. I don’t like promoting criminals in any way. I just didn’t like Gen Shaw. I never like Gen shot from the beginning. And I can tell you
Jen sharp was very interested in like getting to know content creators, she would inbox them small accounts mid size big accounts, like do like live zooms with them. It was creepy. She was always creepy to me. So that’s the Von Teese account. So because a lot of people had questions about that, that’s what I know. Right? I was not familiar until I heard about it from you. But it was also very Salt Lake City focused guys. Like, it wasn’t about all of the shows. It was really about the women on salt lake. So I mean, this episode, for those who said camp, I think that’s a great word. I would say that the last, you know, the students were very, let’s say cinematic Heather clocks, Meredith and Whitney and Lisa and won’t tell them what’s going on. And like, Whitney is the first one down there. I was like, what’s going on? Are you okay? Like you could tell she didn’t know. And like Lisa also was like, I think Lisa seemed worried like they were going to all y’all she’s very like nervous. Meredith may have known Heather may have chatted and UK was not invited. So the reason for that is I think because this reality Vantis account specifically targeted. Yeah. Oh, geez. So I don’t think it was so much leaving Angie k out for any righteous purpose. It just didn’t right. And because like reality bunches yeah had gone after each of those women and they all like you could like this. The second she sad reality, like you could see it on their faces. Like they’re all like that, and don’t like it right. So, but it will also say, like, looks like a coven. Right, like he’s women. And then you can tell the user facts. So like, I saw some memes put white lotus three and I was like, damn, I wish I wouldn’t go to that, like dark and lighting, lots of thunder sound effects, a lot of production kind of stuff to make it more dramatic. But Monica also, later in the show said this Instagram account was specifically made. The mission was to take down John Shaw, but it did ultimately attack all the women and tried to expose various things happening in their lives. It looks like she’s taken all the stuff about all the other women off it’s just Jen Shaw there. Yeah, the question. Oh, I had a question for you. Was it this account that broke when there was a recording of John freaking out on the designer? Yeah, I believe so. But here’s what’s interesting. So what this account did was they were a vehicle to get it out there so yes, they were an account but their their motive and mission was to send it to other accounts because as you guys know if I post it and then Bravo by gays posted and face reality posted and real moms posted it goes viral. We’re all posting it right so between all of us, I have this many followers they have this many before you know it million people have seen it in 10 minutes. So I think that is and I can’t say I repost something I’m sure in the beginning when they sent me stuff, I reposted it, it was I forget. And again, guys, you know my memory, but it was something dark for me to block. Now the question is when did Heather know if you know for longer than she led on and something that just came out a couple hours ago is that Jen Shah sent a cease and desist to Monica in 2021. Now, I’m not saying all the women No, but Heather was her bestie. And if we remember reality Von Teese was it for to Monica for reality. And there was another account shots.
So Jen knew now do I think that Jen didn’t tell Heather possible, but it’s also possible that Heather knew all along. I don’t know. I could actually see it going the other way around. Because I think Jen Chow was probably so frantically trying to like keep her life together. And that maybe she didn’t tell her I don’t know. Unless it served her right. And Jen seemed very much like only does things like that if it serves her not serves her friend. Right. True. Very good point. Well, on her live, Monica insinuated that she knew meaning Monica knew Heather knew prior to when she said it, right. So she said that she knew from day one in Bermuda that Heather would be confronting her. And I think Heather kind of said she had some soft evidence, and had it confirmed while in Bermuda. That was my theory, because I noticed the last show that Heather was acting kind of funny when like, because like if you think about the beginning of the Bermuda trip, right? Heather and Monica go on that walk on the beach and like, right a genuine to me, like on EVA Monica said I do that Heather was like No, you wouldn’t, and it was almost like you maybe saw a clique in her head at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. I feel like she was maybe just giving her still giving her the benefit of the doubt. Right. And like, I don’t feel like she was like, oh, like it didn’t feel like I’m so glad we’re friends again. Almost like
Gotta like I just wanted to get this off my chest. Let’s just move on kind of a thing. And then on the boat when Monique lake when, after Heather had talked to Monica and then she talks to Meredith like, Heather, you could tell she like, listened to what Marilyn said and believed her and like almost made the kind of a funny face and I think she knew that and that’s what I think.
I was like one of the pieces that helped everything. She was putting the puzzle together like cocktail color, and then gets the phone call the next day because I do feel like things were so cinematic. But like there was a little thought put into it and a little a little like, planning, but I don’t feel like she was plotting. Listen, this is Heather’s fourth season, give her it give her a few hours to put it all together and she can self produce God bless. Like I don’t see anything wrong with that. I don’t think it makes it inauthentic. We’re gonna get to we’re gonna get to that aspect of it. So the others who this is the other piece of it. On her live, Monica said, when asked if the other women meaning the other women on the cast had ever DM the volunteers account. She smirked and said we’ll have to wait for the reunion so I think we can expect to see her accuse maybe throw some receipts. Oh, Lisa told me this or Meredith told me this about you and blah, blah, blah, blah. By the way, they accuse me of a couple of things posted that were problem cocktails. Thank you very much. Somebody said are you Monica and I was like listen, I’ll tell
a beautiful woman.
I don’t want I don’t want her bank account getting turned down with a chime card. I don’t. Was that what the green card was? That’s funny.
Bunch of people messaged me and they were like, did you see she tried? She put one credit card. But then a couple of people said it’s a chime credit card that one sides green one signs white. I don’t know she may have been scammed. She’s a scammer. Do we think she took Lisa’s ring
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everybody thinks she will never be able to prove it. But do we? I wouldn’t put it past her at this point. She I think she’s capable and I bring that size doesn’t just disappear through the cracks. It’s not like like a tiny cent earring would right? I don’t know. So let me ask you this. Do you think sending an emoji like a clapping emoji or a heart emoji or laughing face? Emoji is the same thing as a DM? Like in response? No, I do not know. And I think that I think that any content creator can vouch for this when you’re in the heat of a season as or in Angie Kay’s case when she was sending those she wanted to be on the cast that’s no secret and at the time was maybe a little envious of those who were cast we know that her and Heather and whatever had issues and so if an account put when I post something negative let’s say two housewives are quarreling and I post something negative about housewife a does it happen that housewife B sends a good one or haha or You crack me up? Of course. It is not the same as a housewife inbox me and saying hey be Jen Shah or Heather Heather is having an affair with him.
married man, not the same thing. And I think that Angie Kay. I don’t know, we’ll see. But I think that probably she was being a little bit of a hater and thirsty and liking and laughing with an account that was bringing down Jen Shaw probably because she didn’t like she didn’t. I don’t think it’s the same as her saying By the way, Jen Shahs husband. I agree. And that’s why when they showed screenshots during the show of like, the emojis, I am like reactions. I’m like, that’s not really a DM to me. I don’t think that’s what I would call a DM. It’s not a smoking gun. It’s just interaction. Listen, is it a little embarrassing for Angie, when she’s going to have to say at the reunion? Yeah, before I was on the cast, I was interacting with troll accounts. It’s a little embarrassing, but I got news for you. They owe me Give me proof that none of the other women have ever never done that. I and I will tell you, actually, I shouldn’t say this. Because, well, people know obviously, one of the secrets to our success is the fact that people can email anonymously. Yeah. Because and that was Amanda’s idea. Because the idea that if you guys don’t think that Bravo labs are sending me shit, yeah, come on. And this way it can I cannot. If you send me an email, with leases, LLC documents, I Yeah, way of knowing you sent it because you could put ABC 123 at@google.com gmail.com nonsense.com. And it will go to me and I will have no way of knowing exactly. So nor any desire to trace because I don’t care where are you, we just get the we just literally get goes like into like a mailbox. And then we get an email that says what email says, but that’s it. So there’s no way to trace it, which is, I think one of the very helpful ways that we do get some good tea, but it also means like, sometimes we get stuff that we don’t post because we’re like, Oh, this one, like, like, there’s an email that I’m not gonna say, but you know, the email I’m talking about, and it’s throwing us off because they’ve sent us real shit. And now that same email sent us something that we know isn’t real. I was just gonna bring up our favorite and sometimes they send us stuff that parts are real, and parts are full. Yeah. Do you know what I’m so yes, the email, or there was the ultimate girls trip the seven deadly sins.
I can we go back and see if that was sent from that email that I’m talking about. But it’s whatever, seven deadly sins, I don’t care if it was true or not. That’s how we all became. So it was the best one. Every click. When we check to see what email, it’s like, whatever email address the person choose, so they might put in like, bravo, TV producer@bravo.com. But like, some of the people who send us emails will put in whatever that is, like, they’ll put it in the same time. So again, somebody some people will put in their real address. And we guys, if you put your real email, email address, I delete it, so that nobody will see it. Yeah. So just so you know, and the good if, if you don’t mind me knowing, like, send me an email like Amanda smith@gmail.com. I can then email you back and be like, Hey, I also heard this, can you verify that and like, you know, we can build a story. When you send anonymously? I obviously have no way we keep it. I mean, we keep it completely confidential, because we appreciate that. I mean, we appreciate we’re nothing without our sources. So I will never Amanda doesn’t even know. Like I just say to her source, like I’m not like, oh, no, she doesn’t say she just says this is a source of like, this is a real source this came from from somebody. Okay, so now talking about revisiting the emails, Amanda, I found it quite peculiar. And I want to know your take on this before I get to the email that we had from back in the day, Heather made a whole grand announcement that she got her black eye from Jen Shah. She turned her back on Jen Shah a long time ago. Right. Why did she save it? For them? Jen, who was like, Why didn’t she say it sooner? Why didn’t you say that the reunion when she knew she was going away? Did she know what the reunion she was going away? She knew on the ultimate girls trip she was on she was going away? Why didn’t she say that? One she might have been waiting for Jen to actually be in prison. I think that’s what I’m saying. She wanted her locked up and away before she was I think like, there’s less recourse for Jen and Jen seems pretty vengeful, and like, I think, too, we don’t know what the story is. Yeah, we have had you and I have had some theories. I think your theory might be right. But I think the other thing is too is like Why wouldn’t she save it for what she knows is gonna be the finale? Like, she’s smart. Right? Like Heather’s, but she didn’t know that during last season’s reunion, or did she hadn’t she didn’t know about Monica? She couldn’t have known that they were going to cash in on even if she knew about the mountain, so maybe that was her only thing to be like, I will say that only because I know everybody still wants to forget No, I mean, how many times do we get that question? Oh yeah emails in the send us t boxing like have you guys fight if I know he found out about how she got some black guy and I don’t. I never cared. Okay, this is my opinion and I’m sticking with it. And I
Don’t believe a word at a Gen jazz mouth but this is what I think. I don’t think that if Jen was punched in directly in the face by Jen, she would have protected her. I just don’t I think that the email we got and I’m gonna stay vague here guys, it’s in cocktail party about partying. They may have been some skiing involved in their party. I think that that’s why Heather didn’t say it and Heather even at the reunion said something like I’m embarrassed you don’t think I’m embarrassed that I blacked out and I didn’t know how I got this black guy so it’s not that she didn’t know it’s that she was embarrassed about so do I think maybe in the while they were skiing and partying do I think maybe Jen knocked or block off or something passport or their like DMCA like you and I are sitting and they had an argument and Jen Yeah. Heather had something that she wanted to make sure it didn’t get out there too. Well and you had a theory a long time ago that like it wouldn’t serve them either of them right with Jen possibly being in trouble and then like Heather not wanting to look you know, like that like that. You’re like well what if production was like we really don’t like we could get in trouble which is funny because we’ve heard all this backlash about production like letting all this drinking going on and that they should be kind of curtailing which I don’t know that I necessarily agree with this blind by the way it was read on radio Andy today and they didn’t say bravo on cocktails.com and but the person calling was like I don’t know if I can say where it’s from. But like okay guys, if you’re gonna say a cocktail post, which is supposed to stay behind a cocktail subscription, just at that point say where it’s from, give us the PR
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it here first not make three months later, or however many months later on radio and a year. In this case it was I look back, it was January 23 2023. Sidenote, how is it? 2024. And when am I going to start writing that when I write a check or how can I be writing checks?
First of all, I do still write checks why you do everything? Just Venmo?
Lady check. Okay, she was at my gosh, yesterday and I probably put 20 I will it’s never bad if you do the year before, right? Like they can steal cash. Oh, right. No, I was doing a spreadsheet on the plane here. And it was like she just had all those dates for 2023 and had to go on into but like, I feel like it’s always somebody like Katie my family’s birthday that I’m giving Yeah, in that case, with birthdate, like I know cash is king. But if I’m going to a party, you know, and there’s like cash and I don’t want the envelope. Inevitably.
I can be like, check the envelope. Yeah. Which I’ve done. Because I’ll tell you, that’s a pro tip. If you see someone doesn’t cash your check, maybe they just don’t need your money. Yeah. And I’ve had like my kids had money sent to them by grandparents or whatever. And like just the 20 and it’s gotten opened and taken. Oh, yeah. So
first of all, no, we should ask Jen about male fraud.
Okay, so do you want to just say some of the things Okay, some of the other questions that we got? No, just here. There’s a bunch of stuff from Monica. Yeah, a lot of people want us to run down of my bank.
Live So Monica did she said she did not steal Lisa’s ring? We talked about that. She says that no one stole a bag from Meredith store which I don’t think I believe she said that Angie is not in the Greek mafia but thinks it’s a cool story.
Oh, thanks, Monica.
Totally Jinx this upstairs neighbor. Now there are I don’t know power washing there.
Maybe standing.
Whatever you guys this is like a This is a once in a year and a half podcast. Hopefully you guys can handle the background. I know. I know. I agree. Okay. I don’t know. I don’t know who thinks it’s a cool story. Monica said she was not the FBI informant originally mentioned from the shots. Oh, there was somebody else. She also says Mary still talks to her and is very sweet and supportive. I think Dana was with her or I think that girl Dana might be coming back. That’s the one so I had lunch with Tracy our since she was like we’re trying to remember her name. And it was Dana Yeah, she said there’s a share to the account that she’ll never repeat. But once the publish the burn book, so she brings us Bernbach literally made it to look like the one and Mean Girls. Do we think Shall we back I mean, I had we not seen that even Ariana filmed with Tom Sandoval. That’s what so many followers said to me that I mean, if you want to be on the show, and if you want to, like Tracy and I were talking about it, too, and she’s like, Yeah, she wants to be on the show. And I’m like, you know, I don’t think Bravo is gonna let her go. We don’t know how those contracts work. But we all saw that Bravo change their bio on Instagram. To to that was big.
You love Salt Lake City. Xoxo. So bravo. Like a nod to gots Gossip Girl. So my sources Yes, she’ll be back even though the other women want us to believe that she won’t be. And I’m working hard for her not to film. They’re gonna film if they have to write if Bravo brings her back. They’re going to film with her production. I hear loves her. She comes cheap. And she brought the season. I mean, you know, let’s face it. The women aren’t once Jen Shah not that I liked her is gone. There wasn’t much drama if she wasn’t there. I my prediction, Angie and Whitney film with her right from the jump secure their snowflake for the next season. I think Meredith and Lisa will say something like, you know, after an episode or so Well, ultimately, she was after Jen, not us. And even if they really don’t believe her or like her belphin with film with her. I think Heather will probably hold out a little while longer as part of her storylines. But if she sees that everyone else is warming up to her ultimately, she’ll do it. Yeah, I mean, I think
past I want to break this down. There is truly not one legitimate friendship on this entire cast. So like, they can say they’re not filming with her. But Lisa doesn’t have a true friend on the cast. Meredith we’re not counting Mary’s her true friends. Yes, I think Mary will be back. I think she’ll be the bridge to bring Monica in. I think Dana may come back. And I think that Monica with everything I just said could have a stronger alliance next season than anybody else, because she’ll have Mary which okay, if you want to call that in the lions, but she’ll have Dana and then you’re so right, though there is not a real friendship on that cost. Once Lisa and Meredith friendship dissolved, and no matter how they pose it, Lisa said what she said and Amanda and I are good friends. And if Amanda spoke that way about my husband and I could I move past it professionally if I was on a cast with her and sit at lunch certainly because whatever but I would never consider her a friend again. Would you consider me a friend again? If I said those things? No. Because how do you drive true? Do you trust somebody and I to me that is like, especially with close girlfriends you tell them what’s really going on in your life and like you don’t say that stuff to somebody that you think is gonna go run off and like if they said that events about you once like, who’s to say there, there’s no loyalty you can never you can never trust them again, quote that I live by. And I’m sure you all know it is Maya Angelou when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time and that is how I conduct business in my own life. Like I’m a very I’m an overly trusting person and those of you that follow me and DM me and I and I tell you scoop and this and that and know that but once you show me who you are, I don’t need to be shown a second time and it doesn’t mean I’m I’m an adult it doesn’t mean that I’m gonna have a confrontation with you. It doesn’t mean that I’m going to curse you out that I’m going to tell you off. There was a time in my life it meant that
I’m not telling like it is my nickname for nothing but at this point
My life. There’s no God, you know what I’m saying? Right? Like, if there’s no go, Yeah, I Yeah, no, I agree. And like, you’ll learn that after having some wisdom to write. And after you see, like, once a leopard shown in spots, like they don’t change, and this is a little bit of it is off topic now a little bit, but that’s what we do. So that’s why I get a lot of DMS from you guys about Taylor in southern charm. And I just have to say, I think you’re missing the point for me, it’s not about Austin, I would expect that from Austin, right? He’s just a guy and he was single, he was no longer with Olivia, it is like, to me, I am a girl’s girl through and through, it would never be on my radar to hook up with a close friend of mines X, period, end of story. And if let’s say that my friend went out with somebody and time passed, and they broke up, and we’re all single, we’re at, let’s say we’re in our 20s. And we’re young, and we’re single, doesn’t need to be young. It could be 40s, whatever it is, the first thing I would do would be to meet my friends for lunch and say, Listen, I really, like I’m very into him. We’re very good friends, this marriage is spark.
I’m nothing’s happened.
Nothing happened. Right? I want to let you know. And I think that any girls girl would first of all, already know, right? Because if you’re a group of friends and say like, Thank you for coming to me, because that’s the right thing to do. Now, if the friend says you and I’ve never been in this situation, but if the friend says to you, no, I’m not okay with it. Now, that’s a little bit tricky to navigate. And if there really is a spark, and there really is a connection, you may choose to go with the person. But I don’t pass judgment because you told your friend and your conscience, right. Yeah. And like I do. And I also don’t think like, if I were the girl who you were going for the guy I dated, and you came to me, I don’t think it would be right of me, even if it hurt my feelings. And I had hurt feelings. I know he’s not for me. I know he doesn’t want me. And ultimately, I probably don’t want him either. So if I tell you know that isn’t that kind of like petty is what I think is different. If it is in the first even year, if you dated for somebody for over a year, if this happens in the year after, like this conversation between you and me, right, like, I’m wanting to date your ex boyfriend. If it happens within the first year, like I think it’s still going to hurt egos, right. Like, I think past a year has passed and like people have moved on.
Right? Oh, like, like, choosing you over. It’s like we’ve all agree. But even if time has passed, don’t you think I owe you the conversation to give you a heads up? Regardless? Yes, I’m saying it. If it was a high school boyfriend, I would get my friends.
Like if it was four months after you had broken up and I come to you like that, like it would be hurtful to you.
Yes, you’d be like, Okay, go for it. I’m married. Now I have right and right, it feels like him choosing one person over another thing versus like, you know what, we are all friends. So it makes sense. And I don’t care what Danielle says after watching her on winter house. There was definitely an underlying thing for her with Carl and Lindsey. Because remember Danielle from summer house, briefly dated Carl. And then they all went out and they were all friends and then her and him casually hooked up a couple times. And not that far before him and Lindsay got together like the summer before I remember they were in the back and she liked I forget what it was but they’ve hooked up. And I’m not gonna say it was the whole thing. I think that there were other parts of it. I think that she didn’t think they were a great match. I think that she did think they were moving too fast. But I definitely do think for her Lindsay probably never had that conversation which maybe she didn’t need to because it was a casual hookup. But I do think there was an element of that with her I definitely could only because of how she treated Jordan and whatever we are way off topic but you get what I’m that’s what we do well here. I don’t know. I just feel like there are so many men. I don’t live in a small town. I’m just a small town girl. But I don’t live in a small town that I have to like go out with Amanda’s boyfriend can you guys Charleston is not that small of a town it’s really like the art it’s fun.
Because like there is a so yes, there’s a citadel which actually but like those guys move on. Like they literally go on in like the Armed Forces right to place. Her son Son is yes and that but then there’s a women’s college there, which is why there’s all these very beautiful young girls are.
What’s the Women’s College of Charleston, I think is what it’s called.
There’s all these weird, interesting, interesting things about Charleston, right? Like there’s a lot of amazing restaurants because they’re I’ve never been and one of our plans was and then like life just got away from us, but maybe we should do that.
This summer was for Amanda and I had to go to Charleston. I loved her. Like do like IOP like get a couple of houses and we could go, man, I can bring the man we could bring the kids and then like when we go like, stay on record, we could go record in Austin and Craig studio and like we, of course will go shopping. No, I’m if I go to Charleston, I want you to know that my wardrobe is going to be
and I’ll dye my hair and a lot of seersucker which I have a lot I’m making my husband will make your boyfriend gets your soccer suits. We’ll get them for our son’s daughter. Oh my god, we could do the matching Li Li polisher dresses. I’ve done a little bit of you. And you know, you’re looking at me I’m mostly in animal print. I’m not sure girl. I find it so
when in the summer I like I know not only Lily but I like I like I love a pop of color. I’m wearing bright pink right now your more preppy style. She’s currently wearing your Vineyard Vines. So true. And I knew you were gonna call that out too. And I was like, I
was wearing a lot of Phoenix sweater and I was like, I want to know your opinion because you met my husband for the first time and I think you were a little surprised that he had like a preppy look about him. I think you were which when we were younger he did not he was very much like you know full of sweat suit. No, he had on like a weave. I want to say button down. It was like some kind of collared shirt on.
Like video, you know? For work? Yeah, like very. Does he look like Frank Catania? Let’s say Brooks Brothers. He look, does he look like Frank Catania? Because everyone accuses him of being no opposite. Only the arms. Yeah, yeah. Well, and I even joked with him. I was like, I’m also lacing your arms.
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I gotta say I would actually flip flop indoor chapeau throw shop in there just five or six years ago I would have said Shep Shep to me and like I don’t think sharpen iron us we’re not that far away and age I feel like Shep has done enough of noxious things like I just can’t look past oh no I would go sorry cry because I love you but probably Austin we always have opposite tastes because now we have a dark hair and I don’t light hair and and I’m going for the dark haired and your
rag is so much a huge I just think cute adorable adorable adorable. Bot do I think I really want to like get down with John him. I mean, I probably would but like I don’t know like it’s just an attraction thing not to like, you know, I think Craig is model gorgeous and I don’t I saw him at Bravo calm and it was in New York and great story because my sister in law what she watches a lot of the housewives but she doesn’t watch southern drawl, like she.
And we were standing we were trying to wait on his line. But it was long until we got off it and she didn’t even see him because the line was so long and when we walk past she was like, Oh my God. There’s this guy. I don’t know what show he’s from.
He’s BJU and she’s not somebody who goes crazy over peed over men like oh my god. Turn around and like oh my god, that’s him. He’s in the booth. That’s correct.
She’s like, Wow, maybe it’s because he is so like model gorgeous. Our lights are flickering by the way. I hope we don’t lose. Does that it’s because their power washing, whatever they’re doing. Maybe it’s sex I have never like 100% love he’s too pretty for you because he is he is. There is no arguing with that. I don’t know why, like and like, and that doesn’t that makes it sound like it’s a slight on us. And that’s not the case. I don’t know. I don’t know. You’re attracted to who you are. But usually there’s no we are. Are we done with Salt Lake City? I think so. I mean, I feel like I mean, I think Monica once I do, the video that leaked may change that. Here’s what I just want to wrap that one up. Okay, the video that leaked today. I don’t know if you saw because I know you were traipsing around New York City. So there’s a video that Monique is friend. You know all these people coming out of the woodwork leaked of her mother saying to her, you have to act you’re an actress like basically I think they do have a toxic relationship. But they play that up for the for the show. And mom also was mad because she said Monica has to get in line and be nicer to the women. If she’s not nicer to them. She won’t get screen time and all this kind of stuff. That video may hurt her. I think they’re on board. I think they liked that a lot of the fan base, likes her and thinks she’s crazy and all that. But that video could be damaging. I was 100% on board. My sources say she’ll be back vacuums me I feel very uncomfortable. Now with her. Knowing what we know behind the scenes. She seemed female had her way onto the show. Like she lied. He cheated. He gossiped. She schemed? Yeah, like it just feels gross to me like that is different from being right, like, very different from being a fan like Jackie Goldschneider was a fan of the show. And then like she didn’t she didn’t like cheat and schemer away on the show. This feels gross. To me. It feels like it cheapens the brand. Yeah. And listen, I’m a fan account. I everybody knows this goes without saying I don’t have any desire to be on a reality show. But it’s a one off. It’s not people are like joking. Like, Oh, are they just gonna have fan accounts? Now? It’s a one off. I have varying opinions on this. I agree. 100% with what you said. It just seems like she colluded to get on a show where she never pretended like she belonged. She always said she didn’t have money and all this and all that. I’ll tell you what makes it a little different to me. What makes it a little different to me is that when they announced it, Bravo con and 2019, Salt Lake City, we were kind of all like, and none of these women were known right now. Jen, SHA, Meredith and Lisa presented as aspirational at that time. They appear to have money. They appear to have fancy homes. Yeah, all of that. Cool careers. All of that. Whitney and Heather. Were regular gals. Right? So now four seasons in they’re still regular gals Yes. Okay, we’ve had business success we’ve made money all these things, but they’re still regular gal. So the scheming part gives me pause. But just Monica herself if we didn’t know that she schemed could fit into this cast some cast is cast a regular people like Jersey some of them had money and stuff like that which we’ve come to find out some of them went to jail because they didn’t really have any money but they were like regular people. Whereas like Beverly Hills, you’re never gonna be able to scheme on Beverly Hills because you better know somebody you better have been on a movie TV show hallmarks you know what I mean? But some cities you can be a regular girl with an interesting yeah, yeah. So I think you’ll like see how they’re gay.
Regular girls, even today, their regular girls? Yes. Do they have nice houses and stuff? Because they make housewife money, but they’re regular girls. Yeah. I would agree. Yeah. And I will also say what does this say about Bravo if they keep taking on other women who because like if Monica does it and people see that she’s been successful, other people are going to try right so at what point do things get to be too meta? Too right. It’s a matter of the most meta things ever. Is has been happening. It is a little different though because a fan account like myself is different. Who has no connection to anybody is different than your John Shaw. You are on Real Housewives. I am your assistant. And then so it is still an offshoot of housewives although she started a fan account she still was connected to the cast. She was she was she was then John’s Easton out when she knew John was gonna be on the show. I don’t know that. But even still, she had the Connect even if she sought her out which maybe she did. She had subjection to a shop. Jen hired her. So like, if tomorrow Sonja Morgan hired me as her intern, and I got a role. summerhouse as a result of it. Yeah, I have the connection I worked with right yeah, I have a Bravo does that
Yeah, it does. I know it makes sense. I do get what you said. But because a lot of
I don’t know, it just feels dirty. I feel uncombed as I just feel uncomfortable, I don’t know. But it isn’t like she robbed women and children. No, no. Well, we don’t know yet though. I don’t know if she really got the ring.
Just not like, I don’t know where that ring ended up. But
yeah, I mean, I don’t know. I think the other thing like I mean, we did see the whole green card white card thing and whether or not that was two different cards or what you said it could have been two different sides of the card. It was still sketchy. I don’t know. I just don’t She’s sketchy. A magician. Well, I’m gonna
show her like she shows dangerous like Jen ship, but here Okay, and now I’m gonna go back. Does that stop Bravo from having Jen was in fucking dangerous with federal indictments and they had her back. That doesn’t preclude Bravo from having her back. She comes cheap, and she’ll do whatever the hell they want her to do for now. I do think what what did she bring us next season? Like, I don’t know. What’s I don’t think this is gonna be judgmental, but I don’t really care. This is a woman slept with her husband, brother in law. Not only was she perfectly willing to betray her husband, she was perfectly willing to betray her husband, her family, her entire family. It makes my skin crawl like you have children. I’m going to go ahead and assume your sister in law has children and you’re banging your niece and nephews your head it obviously isn’t incestual but in my mind, it’s disgusting. I find it so I think a person like that is because that is no moral compass. No sense of Go. If you’re not loyal to your family, you certainly aren’t going to be loyal to some chick she just met on a reality show who all on site I guess. I always like to point it out to like carpool but like thank god she’s got a high school kid who can drive her other kids around because there’s no way that any mom is going to be sure let’s let’s do a carpool Monica let me get you can get close to my family. There’s no way I always would say this about Michelle but like, check it again, Rachel but I would say but it’s true like this is the real life that you and I both live and like right I depend on my village right and like there’s there’s no village for Monica there can’t be after you know like there is no coming back.
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We had someone sent me she’s like I live near Monica. She has no friends. She is a villain on the show. She’s a villain in real life. She’s not a nice person. I feel terribly for her daughter. I do too. Because like then that means like that’s the thing. Like when you fuck your brother in law for 18 months. That means like there’s no more family for your kids. Like that’s so sad. It’s so sad. You’re just I don’t know.
You’re just disgusting. And you only think about yourself. Okay, what do we want to talk about next? I think that’s the Ronnie legacy, dueling email. Okay, let’s do it. So, we were sent an email the girls trip, the legacy trips.
Farewell because we had heard the rumors they were gonna be doing it annually then we got an email saying no, no, they’re casting for two spots. Listen guys, first of all, they don’t cast for ultimate girls trips. Yeah. Okay. Go in there. They go in their Rolodex
and they pull out names. So do I think that we could possibly see Dorinda, certainly Lewin Sonia in other shows. Absolutely. Kristin Tikhvin is peeking we’re all loving her. Kelly Ben Simone. Certainly I think it’s a possibility that we’ll see them however there are no current girls trips on the docket as per one of my sources sources and they don’t cast for ultimate girls trips right they go with who they know who they have also, and here’s my question for you Amanda. I’m not I’m are enough people gonna watch that?
Because I love those women are enough people. When you watch it every three balls you watch it every three years. So yeah, maybe it was like a different like a couple other women thrown in. I would not every year though. There’s not enough there there to watch it. Every year. You and I probably would. I mean, I don’t watch it. I don’t think the larger the season. I did. I’m sorry guys. I did I got a little bored. But I still want and that’s with changing classes. Is there a world to your point in a couple of years, three years from now Jill Zarin gets over it they throw Aviva in Carroll wants to do another loop around? Yes. But as of right now, not going to be an annual thing. And I know when we get emails that they’re going to integrate the OGS into the new rhony That ain’t happening. It wouldn’t even make sense. There’s no way to properly integrate them. Could we see Sonia throw a party at her townhouse and the ladies girl yeah, yes. The same way before the house burned down in the Berkshires we were going to see the jersey ladies stop at around just for lunch but and I do think that they will always have a home at Bravo. They will always be at Bravo con they will maybe do a special where they do a night at during this house and it’s a two episode special Bravo call me that’s a fucking idea.
Because Berkshires
iconic that and you don’t even need to do TEDx and like what led right for during the day a hotel so she doesn’t lose our mind on everybody. Because I get it like having all those people. If it was during those girls, the only girl she wouldn’t lose her mind. There’s a big difference if my best friend from college if my girls from college or my girls from high school, stay at my house because they like the same pressure as if like newer friends or people you don’t know. Because like you have your friends. If they show up on your doorstep and you came to my house today, we’re good friends. I know you’re not judging me if you go upstairs in my classes to mass or or my kitchen, we’ve seen each other I don’t know you and you are and we’re housewives and you’re coming in from another housewife city maybe Beverly Hills and you’re coming up in a manner I want everything to be pristine because you’re gonna get in a pod and talk about how my house is by walls a crack I’m just so true. I’m saying what was going through her head you’re not going to do that to me Ramona isn’t going to Ramona with all her warts and whatever isn’t going to do that. Brenda, Kyle might I’m not calling Kyle out anybody but like, your your your pets. That’s a good point. I yeah, I will say I agree with you. We will only know from the source right that there’s not any trips coming up. They will happen guys. That doesn’t mean that they’re not happening. They will happen. I think this whole Brandi Caroline thing really through a bump in the road. Yeah, I think they just I’m sure the lawyers are like gathering their wagons and like figuring out how they’re doing new things a little differently moving forward. People keep asking if we’re gonna get it and my response is it’s not looking good if we’re gonna get the show. Oh, yeah. Because how does Bravo come out and do that with and like feature brandy if they have now kind of banished her from Bravo them? Right? Well, so here’s the thing, Bryce and I don’t want to say it wrong because he’s great at reporter by Sanner standards and did an interview with her and she was talking about all these medical issues that she says she has from it and she says that she fainted because she got a territory with a loved one with an injury got terrible news, which I we posted a long time ago. Our most trusted source told Us she’s done within the network is done. I think timing is part of it. I think that this all happened with this reality reckoning that ended up being nothing but at the time Bravo didn’t know it was going to be nothing. I think that Brandy is very much a loose cannon. And it’s not that I just like her. I certainly she has an endearing way about her. But sometimes you gotta I think she’s too and I think they have too much talent. There’s so much talent, and I wrote because you say to yourself with your take Monica on Salt Lake City, but they’re done with Brett
nd and it’s kind of like at this point this network is around since oh eight house. Yeah, that’s right. She’s considered old talent. Yeah, Monaco’s give her another season. If she really acts up and does something wild, then they’ll cut her. But brandies done enough. Yeah, well, at this point I yeah, I don’t see how, based on all the stuff going on, like she can come back from that. I did not get to see the actual interview. I only saw the headlines. But was she saying that these all these health issues that she’s had are directly as a result of just getting that bad news? Is that what she said? Yes. The stress of it all, which I’m not speaking on anyone’s medical issues. The Plastic Surgery she’s had done to her face looks very similar before and after, whether she’s had some stress paralysis certainly is possible. And people get Bell’s palsy out of nowhere, which is like, I know, my one of my good friends had it. And like they they do say it can be stress related. That can bring it on. But that is I mean,
and like yeah, it’s stressful to find out that your main source of income is gone. And also she was very much on the upswing because she had such a great showing it freighters she was on a girls trip and she was asked on another girl’s trip. And we know that she was slated. And that’s why we see them bringing all these randoms in on Beverly Hills because she was very much slated to be a heavily featured friend of possibly back which would have been great for Beverly Hills. But but Yeah, fuck around, you find out? I have to say if if the argument is is Caroline lying? I don’t believe it. I don’t believe it. I mean, I heard the story from a source of what went down. And I do think that it can be a case where where as some housewives would have not taken it so far to protect themselves for future showings on Bravo. Carolyn was Caroline, excuse me was at a point where she was like, I don’t fucking need
to think that Caroline just made it up.
Make it up rather than show her line voltage in about obviously, Bosch on the show, because there was footage showing. Now do I think Randy may have blacked out? I think Brandi didn’t have the intention. And it was a joke on her end. Do we think Randy has done other very similar things with other people who didn’t react the same way? Yes. Right. I mean, we’ve seen it right. Okay. So before we go, I just want to tell you guys on bonus cocktail party. This week, we are going to be answering some of the questions that you guys had for us now that we’re together a couple things. I’m happy you said that because a lot of our new cocktail errs on our subscription site, are very surprised to know and maybe we don’t advertise this enough, that every week, we have an additional part. That is for cocktail hours only. And we talk about all the cocktail party stuff on that pod. So it isn’t just the posts, you get a monthly zoom with us. And you also get a weekly, right. And we talk about all kinds of random. Yeah, we talk about personal stuff, too. Like we share personal things, we share just things we wouldn’t our opinions that we’re scared to be streamed across Apple mattify. Exactly. Somehow, even though it’s our platform, it’s Bravo and cocktails.com. So if we say there, it doesn’t really it doesn’t. And the nice thing guys is we make it super easy, so that the bonus pod actually just pops right up into your podcast player. Like we send you an email this is like this is how you do it. You get your private RSS feed because everybody has a role. And you have to explain that to me one day, or send me an email that I could send to people because they asked me and I’m like I have Castile or whatever. I don’t know what is it a twofer like exactly what to do and like any podcast player we can work with Android we work with them all Yeah, but like what’s really nice is you don’t have to like go to the website to listen you It literally will pop pop up in your podcast player as cocktail party but yeah, so we’ll probably be on our third glass of Prosecco answering your honestly this is embarrassing, but I don’t even know how to do that. And I actually listened to it from the website. I don’t really embarrassment today you didn’t have to because you know that way it’s it’s on there. You guys know that
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and Amanda’s like cancel that for free.
I have nobody cocktail party free. My my siblings pay for it. Because you can’t start that the only people get it free are in our giveaways. Nobody in my family. None of my friends. Yeah, no, listen, if you love me, I’m worth the seven bucks a month. Okay? If not, but then you know what the problem with that is? These cheap acid I’m kidding. Message me. What’s this about? I’m like, Are you adding cocktail party? So that I have to text everybody when everything’s Oh yeah, so you guys have until Wednesday? Well, and I mean, you can always join later because you can always listen back to old episodes. But if you want to hear what we talked about, after three glasses of Prosecco after hanging out together for the first time in person, you should join cocktail party. Yes, yes. Join cocktail party. Yeah. Listen, and here’s the thing, because and people asked me this, too, there’s no commitment, I think, because we have an annual subscription people have to pay in sign up for the year. It’s monthly. So if you join one, one, and you’re like, I love it, or it isn’t for me, I can’t afford it. I don’t, I don’t. Or you can go back and listen.
Then you have because you pay, you get the month, and then you can go back and listen to all the old episodes and look at all the old tea and catch up. We have a bunch of cocktail errs, who listen, I absolutely get it. Amanda and I are moms. We have our sports we have our times where stuff is tight, totally get it and like I have a cocktail who’s like, don’t kill me because I didn’t I didn’t listen to the and ask me a question like because I cancelled because none of the shows I watch are on right now. So you’re not really posting about ghettoes guys. I I’m, we appreciate all the support. You listen to us. We appreciate it. You like my post, I appreciate it. Nobody has to be a cocktail. It’s absolutely up to you if you want to be but if you’re curious, there is no longer and as I always say when I email people who are like, Oh, I unfortunately have to cancel. I’m always like, the door’s always open it right ever, and like we’ve had a lot of people who have come back and like, what have you ever like, Okay, I do get it though. Picture it. You change hairdressers, just because of timing. Like I’ve changed hairdressers just because my kids sports schedule work with when she thanked me. And then I’m like, how am I gonna walk back? Yeah, yeah, but with us, you kind of can because first of all, there’s nobody else like us.
And also, we don’t know at all like, of course, I always say the door is literally always open. We’ve had people say like, Hey, I’m trying to buy a house, I want to just cut down on all the monthly subscriptions while they’re looking at our financials for the mortgage, and I want to join it. And I’m like, I I’ve been there I completely get it.
Thing is like, I think you guys listen. No, Amanda and I are regular everyday people who work and have kids and have built. We’re not celebrities, we don’t have, you know, trust funds and fortunes. And we’re like, What do you mean you can not a Lamborghini in sight?
Maybe we can rent one for a day. Well, maybe that would be fine. I mean, did we just first of all, we’re not renting a car you’re gonna need for sure. Drivers. Did we just do an infomercial?
And we have a payment plan.
And it comes with a free spatula.
She’s kidding.
Could you imagine if we wake up to an email? Amanda, I want my grandma. That would be pretty cool. That’s a good question. Like what would be the thing if we were gonna make merch because
we could talk about please tell us? Yeah, yes. You tell. Yeah. Because we want to do it. But I also feel like I don’t know what the hell to do. Everyone has t shirts. Yeah, well, apparently we’re making specials, just not that much of an egomaniac that thinks you want to walk around with a T shirt that says Bravo.
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