109. Would love a reunion; The Valley Exclusive; Dubai’s giving fun, fashion and light shade

We start out with a tangent about college hookups, going right into why Amanda is mad at Bravo. We need a reunion on the Valley! Here’s why. We have an exclusive about Britney and Jax’s house. B is vindicated now that Andy Cohen and People Magazine confirmed that there will be no RHONJ reunion. We’ve got some tea about where Jersey could possibly go next. And we are loving Real Housewives of Dubai. It’s giving fashion, fun and the light housewife shade we all are craving. Our thoughts on the new housewife, Taleen, and the cast in general.

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds, and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com. And as always, is all alleged and just for fun. We do not verify our blinds, be. And I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tip
What’s up cop tellers? Hey, Amanda IV. Hi, car Taylor’s. I just wanted to start out actually with an announcement for our cocktail hour members. It turns out that we had a revelation this week that a lot of our cocktails did not know because the cocktail are members, they get the regular pod. So this pod, but they get that ad free on Fridays. So they get that a date early. And then they also get a bonus pod on Wednesdays. But it turned out that a lot of them didn’t know that you can take that podcast and have it pop up in your apple podcast app. So you get an email from us at the beginning of your membership walking you through how to do it. But it comes from Castillo’s, which is to host our private pod. So I think a lot of people had missed that. So instead of having to listen, listen to the bonus pod and the ad free pod like through the website, all you have to do is just email me at Amanda at Bravo and cocktails.com and then asked me for every person gets their own unique URL. So just ask me for that. And then there are directions for how to put it into either your apple podcasts or your if you have an Android phone that podcast player app. The only one it doesn’t work for is Spotify. And if you didn’t realize don’t feel bad because Hi me be the founding member of Bravo and cocktails also had to ask Amanda how to do it. So you haven’t right there. I listened to it on the site myself for over a year just did it this week, guys just did it. And Amanda knew it. And she was always like, like she would say to me be like, remind me at the end of the pot and I was always just it’s fine. But I can tell you having it in my Apple app now. It just pops out. It’s one less thing. It actually came on in my car right when it popped up. It was really nice ease. I do have to tell you, Amanda. So a lot of times when Amanda and I go on tangents, meaning like, we have like bullet points of what we want to talk about. Right, right. But then it can lead somewhere. So last week we were talking about how Amanda was like we need a flowchart for Vanderpump because these people are all connected who’s
made out with who whatever, which then went in led into a tangent on Sex in the City, which a lot of new guys liked. And Amanda and I do cover and just like that if you’re a new listener, so when that comes out we will. But so I got into the whole story about how friends of my college group made a hookup chart when I was studying abroad, and half of us were abroad and half of us weren’t. And it got left in the library copy machine. Anyway, you guys if you listen, you heard it. My phone started blowing up the day we went lie like the pod was out. And they were all like, You’re kidding, right? This is a joke, right? And I’m like, what’s happening? So I’m at work, whatever. And it clicked. And I was like, What are you guys talking about? What happened there like your podcast like you totally outed us. And I have to give a shout out some of my college roommates husband actually listened to my pod. Ah, so shout out to stone cold daddy, who is a content creator, who is a loyal cocktail. I love him. I cried on Discord that he’s on Discord. And he’s I know he follows a cow. And he’s, I love him. I love him to his wife who loves me a little bit less. I will be kidding. Like, it was funny. They didn’t even know each other back then. Whatever. In any event, yes. So I apologize, but not really. If I’m not using anyone’s name. Yeah, I didn’t say who the most popular one was. You did not could have eluded I could have eluded I could have hint you always had that you were not that you were I have the list, but not the most did not have the most on the list. Yeah, some of us had more arrows than others. What could I tell you? Oh, my it reminded me and I just I don’t think I I didn’t remember to tell the story. But my oldest, one of my oldest dearest friends, went to an Ivy League school, but was in a sorority and had a very active social life was in the library one day in college and looks over and on the wall. It says I fucked. So instead, she was hurting at it. She like starts laughing because she’s I haven’t actually screwed on anybody since I’ve been here. But just do I take this as a compliment.
Oh, my colonnade. What did she did? She was it an hour? I think she was just over I used it. But yeah, so How funny is that? I don’t think she thought it was all that funny at the time. But she find it very funny. Now. I also wanted to say something else. I want to apologize to Amanda, one of our reviews pointed out how I talk over you. I want everyone to know I talk over everyone in my life. And anyone who knows me is laughing No offense by it. You just have to tell me to shut up and I’ll stop. I just am a blabbermouth. Oh my god. This is what it is to be friends with you like you’re new. I love it because you get fired up. So for whoever review that’s nice of you to say something but it doesn’t bother me. So hopefully it doesn’t bother you guys. And listen, I do it to everybody. And I need to work on it. I’m trying. You guys should have seen when we got together in person. We are both just there was no stopping on the talking. Oh my god, you were it was motormouth. So yeah, we, I can I’d have a tendency to do it sometimes, too. I just learned that. Yeah. Anyway, but we love and we appreciate you guys so much. I myself, am guilty of sometimes not leaving good reviews for things I like be at a hotel be at a podcast. So if you remember to leave us a good review. We appreciate it so much because people see it and maybe they’ll give us a listen because they’re like, Oh, bravo fans like this. Yes. And it is so nice to hear those things. And it makes us so happy when people say that it feels like they’re talking with their best friends when they’re like that they’re part of the conversation because I was thinking about this yesterday actually, because I have a couple of their friends here in my like day to day life that also love to watch the shows. But I’ve noticed that I don’t talk to them as much about the shows because I think I’d get it all out of my system every week with you.
And the car dealers are sad. And like in my case and shout out to my cousins and my friends I love them and my sister in law’s I feel like when I see them they all want to talk about it. And I do it so much. I do it all day, right? Yeah, all day long. We love you guys. Okay. Oh, the valley dying Valley talk to you about a diet. Okay. So I guess so we know that there’s not going to be a reunion which I am. real salty about, by the way, and I will go into the reasons why in a minute. But I think some people were surprised that they brought cameras back up, but we had heard that was happening and posted that they did. I think that I’m less bothered by it. Maybe
Cause I knew that there wouldn’t be a reunion. And I also, I think they did a really good job tying up the loose ends. Of course, I would prefer if there was a reunion, and we’re gonna get I feel like we’re gonna get into Jax and Brittany, obviously, they’re more complicated. As viewers, we’ve seen their entire relationship play out. We’re in some ways more invested then Jessie and Michelle. But first let’s on Jesse and Michelle, before we dive into the couchy, let’s do it. Oh, the cow cheese. Okay, so Jesse and Michelle seeing her in this in the six months later portion, she was like a brick wall. Zero expression. And Jessie couldn’t have been more opposite crying and very look, I’m putting on my side. And I’m drinking my whiskey on the rocks in this room by myself, like, I drop off golf yesterday thinking about it. And just had this thought could it be that our theory is right, which is that their marriage was over a long time ago, they decided to either try to make it work, or at least fake it for the cameras so they can be on the show. But that she knew that he was doing all this sobbing as an act and that she was just doing her best not to react because otherwise like she, I almost feel like I have to think that she is human. But this is why I’m like mad at Bravo right now. Because I need a reunion. I don’t need to just see the ends tied up. I need Andy asking questions about this so that we can get a little bit more resolve. So I get it. And here’s my thing, and it’s what I keep coming back to she married. Like, Jessie has a personality that she’s discussed many times and that we’ve seen and the bagging on the table, and the Capri and the overall douchey vibe. Yeah. Okay. 20 eyes and gentlemen lunches. Yes. And I get all that and I get how it’s obnoxious and why someone wouldn’t be into that. And what what I come back to Is she married him. So it’s and people grow and people evolve, but we’re talking 2020 to 2023. Right. So we didn’t see their whole relationship. So we know Jesse’s obnoxious, but she also married him knowing that we’re seeing a very checked out. Cold, Michelle. I feel like without seeing she’s saying what led to that point, but it’s hard to really, I don’t know, how did you expect him to be? Do you know what I mean? I guess what I’m saying is at some point, there is there should be some accountability. At the same can be said for Britney with Jax. Oh, you mean like when she married? Um, but she would have no yeah. Yeah, I am not saying she should have known but okay, I guess it’s hard. And maybe this is just my personality. It’s hard for me when there isn’t an like she has said that when the baby was born, she felt like he didn’t help a lot, again, doesn’t strike me as a guy who’s gonna throw on the Baby Bjorn, and roll out the diaper pad in the in his dad diaper bag doesn’t strike me as that dude. And of course, there’s an element of when we become parents, like, nobody really knows how it’s gonna be. But you know, if you’re married to the guy, like Danny, who’s going to be up? Yeah, in the middle of the night helping. Or if you’re married to the Jesse who’s going to be coming home late from a $20,000 gentleman’s lunch. Yeah, dinner. I do hear you on that. And I do. I’ve actually had this conversation with friends about divorce, and how people want to be able to put people’s divorces like in a box, right? Like, they got divorced because he cheated or they got divorced, because she decided that she wants to be a yogi and the people want to have a very Pat reason. I think it’s harder for people, especially I think married people because married people don’t want to get divorced and they don’t want to see this happen. And so that’s why oh, okay, that person cheated. That’s understandable. I get it. It’s more of a Michela Jesse situation, which again, we don’t really know what happened. But if you don’t hear as much about women’s hang, it’s because it’s usually the mom not always but usually the mom who’s I’ve had it he has not been that helpful. He has not been very present for our family. And I’m and he hasn’t been very nice to me and I’m done when you don’t hear as much about that. But when there are divorces, which I know of quite a few myself that don’t have a specific there wasn’t a cheating there wasn’t a event. It’s harder for other people to understand like why they
Didn’t if there wasn’t a specific thing? Why didn’t you fight it out? And why didn’t you try harder and route over? And I think sometimes too, like people change or people see people who prefer who they really are, which is I think, what’s been happening with Britney? Yes, or I think more so in the case of Jessie and Michelle, to a certain degree, and I this, it’s hard, I want to word this correctly, because this isn’t meant as blaming Michelle because she was very honest about I didn’t think I’d be here and I really can’t get out of this spot. And I think she did the best thing for herself and her family, everybody involved, right, because clearly she was not in that marriage. But I think she made a poor choice in marrying him to to begin with, like, some people aren’t as compatible. And I think she mistook a fun relationship for a long term thing. And I think there’s a difference and it’s okay to get divorced. And obviously, I’m not bashing it. I’m just saying that in her case, I think that she was swept up in something and I think I also think that we see that they have together a very successful business, which is going to make this separation tricky. And we saw that in the finale. Yeah. Because they have to split up clients and that becomes very, like, touchy. Oh, yeah. Imagine if you and I were like, Okay, we’re splitting so cocktail hours pick who you want to go with? Yeah, like you kick you do okay. And that’s where I almost would expect they’re like clients to like just go to Josh old manor flag you know what I don’t want to pick between so that’s, I marriages are layered. They’re complicated. We’re seeing a snapshot, but I can also see Jessie did sorry, I didn’t want to talk over your face. earlier conversation. I can see Jesse being most people who gets shiny object syndrome, right and sees Michelle loves her shows her travels and like she puts her on this pedestal and then when it starts to become day in day out, he stops doing that kind of attention and I could just see that how and he moves on to like, his fixation with whatever else so Capri Yeah, I don’t know. I think he was acting with the sobbing
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I also feel like he is going to be the person in the X situation who is going to make things more difficult. I hope it’s not the case. It just seems like he is going to do that. Because again, friends with divorce, sometimes it’s both people. But there’s often one person who makes things a lot harder than they need to be. And I just I hope that’s not going to be the case. But on that topic like Jackson, Britney. So the show like the first What 45 minutes of the show is Jackson’s bar opening and all kinds of other stuff happening there. But like when from a Jackson Britney standpoint, they’re happy. He calls her up to join him as he’s giving. They’ll thank you speech at the opening night of the bar. And then the screen goes black. We go to six months later. And we afford her her like calling him out and saying he’s like a mean snake and that he like talks to her so meanly. And yeah, and so now this is where this is going to give everybody whiplash because there’s what we saw in the finale, there’s what’s happening on social media, and we’re going to do our best to break it down. So what we see in the finale, okay, the fact that she points out that he only made the appointment with the therapists, right when the cameras were going up was fantastic. I think she did a really great job in her conversation with him about stopping the manipulation for the cameras, stopping the quote, unquote gaslighting, even though Jax hasn’t been successful, and we see through the version of him that he wants us to see we still get a diluted version because Britney has protected him. Yeah, so even as shitty as we say, we all joke and whatever. He’s even worse than that. When they clipped together, all of the things he has said to her on camera, mind you, but clip together and over the years. And when they showed Dodie and Zach share how he has berated and yelled at her in front of them when cameras weren’t around over the years right when cameras weren’t filming and yeah, really exposed him very well for who he is. And you saw he did not like that was happening. Yeah, I think you’re right. I think all of us meaning like viewers all saw through this. I’m just an all American lawn mowing doting dad like I think we all saw that for the BS that it was but to he tried to make lawn mowing his stick like Schwartz tried to be plan to stick to the plan. He is watching him on how civilians he’s I’ve got a beautiful wife and a baby that I need to make this money for. And he really tried his best to make this persona work. But I think obviously Brittany had she had protected him and hearing from me. Can I just interject here? Yeah, I do think that when he was on villains, and the show was in talks for years, okay, it was greenlit with scannable so when he filmed villains it wasn’t officially greenlit he had didn’t have the offer to open Jack’s his bar. They hadn’t done that peacock rewatch so he wasn’t back in the limelight yet. And I do think that I think he’s always a jerky guy. But I do think that when he got the limelight back he just reverted like any progress he had made he became like um the star again and i don’t i i do think that into I think it fed him it said his ego and put him on this weird plane. I did think it was really interesting because this was not that long ago it was like what March when we are seeing the paparazzi stuff and like their announcement came out and we saw Britney with Michelle in the background looked like they were having like lunch or something saying to paparazzi you know, he’s there’s a lot of things he’s got to do before we get back together. And then the the exact next day they catch him I think leaving the gym or something and he’s Oh Brittany is moving back in. I loved that they addressed that on the show because all of us had whiplash with that. And then it was just so sad to and she mentioned that he had screamed at her in front of crews for hours and that was what made her finally leave so good for her. I think that is the piece that made us viewers go oh damn like we knew he was difficult
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she made it clear that she had to leave and go to an Airbnb because he would not leave. And his outbursts were such that it was a unhealthy toxic environment for crews. And we had heard her say in the press, I had to do what was best for my son and it wasn’t healthy. But to hear her specifically say that he came home intoxicated night after night, and would just be raped her and the baby would wake up. Ah, you’re rolling in after skiing at your bar until 5am. And then, on top of all of that, he proceeded to make the season about Brittany being a drunk being the one with the oil right being the one with the drinking like, this is true abuse. Right? And of course we knew, but to watch her confirm it was Yeah, shocking and shocking. I’m very proud of her for doing the hard thing because she was because Jax wouldn’t leave. So she had to go find an Airbnb and take her son and do the hard thing. And that’s what mom’s what parents do. And so I’m very proud of her for doing that you spend after investing billions to light up our network. T Mobile is America’s largest 5g network. Plus right now you can switch keep your phone and we’ll pay it off up to $800 See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT and T AT T mobile.com/across. America.
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And so then we see her in the episode say but after that, and in the press. She certainly has been trying to not slander like not slander me slander, not like smash them too much because she’s got to raise the kid with her. Yeah. And so she is really trying to be amicable. Yeah, that is what we’re seeing publicly. But we see from that last episode, she uses it against him. Like she said, why would you tell the press when they spotted you outside the gym that we’re living together? Like it’s not true. You’re making me look like a liar. Like she tries so hard and he just so then we get the email. Okay, you’re gonna read it, please. Okay. So this is also in response to the fact that right after the finale, Jax posted a text saying or in a tweet saying you know if you guys only knew who Brittany has really been sleeping with the last six months, so I wanted to tell you guys that before we read this email, so the email is from Mr. amicable subject, not for much longer. Last night at the finale, we saw Brittany called Jax out she said that he only made the doctor’s appointment because the cameras were going up. And then in a confessional he said he never went. We also saw her say when the cameras went down, he would rage text her like always. Now he’s tweeting that she’s been sleeping with someone. When we all saw him at his bar making out with his only fans fleeing. He is determined to sell the narrative that they just weren’t getting along, and there was no cheating or skiing on his part. She’s tried to keep it amicable for their son and their businesses. But if he keeps poking the bear, it won’t stay amicable much longer. If you think what you know so far is bad. I promise it’s the tip of the iceberg. He should stop or she won’t be amicable for much longer. Now, here’s where the whiplash comes in again, so we get this email now.
out first he posted a picture you should know who she’s been sleeping with a lot of people said is he referring to himself, he then posted a picture of her in bed with crews. Presumably he’s in the room too. So he’s insinuating they’re sleeping together, that they’re living in this or state, whatever. He then posted a tweet saying this was filmed months ago. We’re working on things. But I go back to the conversation where she said, Why are you telling people we’re back together, we’re working on it when we’re when you’re doing nothing to work on it. So until we hear from Brittany, we won’t know. And the other thing about hearing from Brittany is that she has to live her real life and she has to do what she needs to do for him not to verbally abuse her for him to be appropriate in front of their son. So who knows what she wants to say publicly right now, while not filming, just to keep her own peace. She is intimidated by him. We’ve watched it for years. And I think it was easier during filming, because she had proof it was being recorded. She had the girls standing by her, it’s much harder when you’re alone in your home, or you’re stopping by to drop off and pick up from your Airbnb to the former marital home, then he has stayed in to get into it. And why are you posting this? And why are you posting that because he is explosive. And he does retaliate? So I don’t know that we’re gonna see an immediate response from her. But what I do know is there’s a whole other layer to this, one of our incredible real estate guru cocktail errs, let me know that their mortgage is a 40 year ARM mortgage, which means that they will be paying all interest for 25 years. They said that is beyond creative financing. It is straight up insane. And then they said maybe the wife soon to be x question mark is not as dumb as some think. They said I would want to keep that house either zero equity. They should have rented and cleaned up their credit or refinanced at a fixed rate. Hello, back when rates were two points I with payments to principal. We also watched her say I have a lot of money coming in. Yeah, there’s so much going on here. Yeah, I mean, I obviously don’t know all the details of that loan, but usually interest only loans like follow the interest rates, which means if they continue to go up, they have to continue to pay more, which is Whoa. That is very interesting. Yes. Yeah. So to be continued, yeah, he’s on Twitter every day. I’m mostly interested. He is basically now asserting that they’re working on it. That’s what he wants us to believe. I’m interested to see when and what we hear from Brittany. Yeah, I agree. And what did you think about the Janet and Zach fights? I’m actually like, super curious to see where you stand on this switch. Zach was way out of line for how he spoke to Janet. First, I want to preface this by saying I as a woman who has been pregnant twice and worked full time and did all the things Yeah, I find it insulting that they’re treating her pregnancy as a disability by all she’s not on bed rest. There is no high risk that was never mentioned. It’s annoying that they’re making it sound like because she’s pregnant. She’s disabled. I think that when you are pregnant, certainly, we know people should be nicer to you people should offer you the seat on the jury, obviously. But this idea that they should be placed in bubble wrap, and nobody can say why did you say that? Because she’s pregnant is silly. I agree. However, shouting at a woman the way that he did is never appropriate. And even though Janet herself cuts like a knife, she really is good at doing that and holding her composure. Now, the thing is, she’s obviously sober. He was clearly not. We’ll be interested to see Amanda like, what her temperament is like when drinking is involved on her end. And also, it’s easier to lose an argument when you’re intoxicated, and the other person is calm, composed, and you’re the one shouting.
I don’t necessarily think Zack was wrong in what he was saying. Yeah, the way he delivered it. I do agree with him and Kristen that Janet got away with everything with no blame from her friends. Now the audience is another story. She’s heavily unfavored and disliked and in my opinion, I don’t think she makes a good villain. A lot of people said without her, what would we have been talking about like Kristen wanting to have a baby now? I think it could have been interesting without her. Let’s see what season two looks like. With her not pregnant and and Zachary and Kristen coming for her.
or if this is who she is a person who stirs it up she’s going to do it to more people and pack Taylor’s No, we know that Janet schemed her way into that friend group to start with because she wanted to be on the show that to me, it all checks out. I agree. I think Zack was right. I don’t think he was right in the way of talking to her but again I go back to I would love a reunion because I actually want to hear from I want to hear from Michelle I want to Title of this episode has to be by the way guys, those Q creative show notes are always Amanda but this one has to be would love her and union Amanda is mad at Bravo. I just want to see wait and the girls think I want us I want somebody asking pointedly. Nia who is the nicest person? Like how do you feel about GNN? Now that you’ve seen what we’ve all been seeing at home? Yeah, yeah, I like Michelle to speak up on it. Yeah. Because Michelle was directly impacted. And Michelle has now watched the season right. So Michelle may not have seen and known the full story and now she does. So they absolutely have to address that second season. Janet cannot get away with it. If you’re listening, we won’t allow it.
I just I have to say the fact that we found out that Jessie we knew he was in an ad for trim spa with Anna Nicole. He shared on a podcast that they were like hookup buddies on and off for quite some time. Iconic. We I don’t think we’ve ever talked about Anna Nicole. I can’t explain why. But I loved her. Even though if you’ve ever watched her reality show. She was not smarter than the average bear. But there was just something about her that drew you in. I loved and Nicole and her show some of it like when we watched her really like spiral. It was incredibly sad. But I loved her. I watched like all of her. I loved her when she married that old guy and like that, like I was just captivated. Yeah. I remember driving and listening to my girl, Wendy Williams when it was announced that she passed. And just being so sad. For those of you that don’t know or don’t remember, her teenage son had died. I don’t. substances were involved. I’m not clear. He was like a 16 or 17 year old I want to say yeah, she had just given birth to her baby, Danny Lynn. And to this day when I see the picture of that little girl who now I want to see this all happen. 2005 456 like around there. So that little girl is a big girl now. Yeah. And it just breaks my heart and she’s beautiful and looks just Yeah, or an adult like her mom. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it does seem like her dad did a really good job has done a good job though. Okay, I want to talk about sure Z. And I just have to say you posted the exclusive that their union was cancelled. It created panic. And hey, here we go. confirms no reunion. So I just want to say it one more time for all the haters in the back that this has been confirmed because I know you spent I don’t know two days in the DMS defending it it with people coming to you saying it wasn’t true that you’re full of BS.
And so then when it was confirmed, it went to Melissa and march told me I got news for you guys. The cast was not aware that it had been canceled. This was a true exclusive. That’s all I could say about it. Yeah. I was told they weren’t aware. I am not in communication with the cast. Yeah, when they did not at all I think how to gas anyway and right and they haven’t they have not. Yeah, and they have not Yeah, and they have I was it’s no secret that I was on Melissa’s podcast over a year ago Yeah. Outside of that I have never met spoken with and that’s just the truth. I don’t and of course there people are gonna say that I’m stuck or whatever big ego but I don’t need to. Yeah, I have really good sources I don’t need to and I also don’t need to pander to anybody. Our jerseys. We wouldn’t if we were like an only we and we’ve talked about this before but if we were a Teresa Stanek hall or any stand account like we we reserve the right to be shady at whoever we want. And then with that said, I think the I think that the jersey housewife with the best future on the network chance for a spin off is Teresa and period into story. So that is my opinion. We’ve all heard the rumors about spin off. Yeah, we’ve heard the Gorga rumors we’ve heard the Judy che ruderalis rumors. If they’re picking one who do I think they’re gonna pick Theresa, so I am not pandering to anybody because if I was I would
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I would love to know the behind the scenes reasoning for why they decided no reunion. I don’t know that it’s necessarily because they are they know they’re retooling the show. I wonder if partially it’s because it just creates so much more toxicity specifically within Jersey because they’re all Bodie, it all was downstairs and there’s files and there’s all of this stuff. And I wonder if Bravo is fine. Okay, we don’t need to be a part of all this toxicity. We heard what Andy said. He said they have this final epic group encounter, which feels like The Last Supper. It’s just so jersey. It’s shocking. And it’s dramatic. And it’s amazing TV. I’m telling you when you see it, I think that you’ll feel complete.
Do I think that he was trying to make the audience happy? Yes. So now will the emails start coming in? Right? Yeah. And I don’t know what his what because as I said, my I don’t know if I said this. So my source when they were told no reunion, their feeling was although it wasn’t explicitly said that this current cast was done and that the network was going to take time and recast that was this person’s feeling. Okay. Yeah. Does that mean that everybody is gone? No, I don’t even think the network has decided. We have emails about athletes, right about like athletes, wives and such. Now for those of you that are not from the East Coast, remember that Bergen County, New Jersey and other counties in New Jersey. beautiful homes, tons of money. We all remember Tiki Barber, retired football are granted. Tracy his wife, although lovely wasn’t the most exciting. Wendy Williams lived in his part of New Jersey. Yeah, many giants, Knicks, Islanders, Rangers, whatever, athletes go lower. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, I do think that there is a world where they could totally recast. I also think there’s a world where if you want to keep a connection, you could keep it Teresa, you could keep a Gorga because it’s not unheard of. They live in that part of Jersey, and they could play all these women are most of them household names now, right? Yeah. So whereas Yes, when Teresa and Melissa first came on, they were just women from New Jersey. Now they are reality superstar, right? So yeah, Teresa could but could be at a show with whomever radio personality. Retired athlete, current athlete. Musician, right? Yeah, remember back to when the man xos hung out with Billy Joe’s daughter? Yeah, because these people live in the suburbs of New York and New Jersey and they run in the same circle. So that is all possible. And it is possible to do a New Jersey that has that from that family vibe where they’re Unknown.
Those who are interesting and funny and wacky which is what it was to have a more like New York City Jenna Lyons vibe where like some of the people are these like polished known people like that exist in Jersey. My question for you though, okay, because if they end up let’s say they decided to keep Theresa and then have some other people that are in her life. Do you think Teresa is getting files and having private investigators and having Bodie Oh, look and everybody? I do think I would hope that Teresa, her attorney and Louie are smart enough to know that they shouldn’t go down that path again. Yeah, I don’t think it was ever Theresa. Yeah, I think that train, you know what I’m saying? I don’t think I don’t think that is her Mo. I don’t believe people want to say that certain accounts, who I won’t give the shine to name because they’re very toxic. And just everybody knows what I’m talking about the Twitter and all that. I don’t believe as much as I don’t agree with those accounts and whatever they did. I don’t believe that since 2010. Or whenever the heck the show came out. Teresa has been working with them. Yeah, I just don’t believe it. I think it’s much more recent. I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that Louise business was on the internet is when they got the idea that they needed to focus on the internet and talk to blogs and all these things they assumed the other women were doing whether they were or they weren’t, I can’t speak to I can speak to the fact that they were not doing anything like that with me. I don’t do that with cast members. I never had. Yeah, that is not to say that a cast member has not sent us an email or an anonymous thing or or whatever. I don’t engage in my DMs creating anything with cast member right. I just don’t, it doesn’t, it’s not necessary for me to. So that I’m gonna leave that where it is. I’ve said it a million times you either. I think the vast majority of our listeners know that to be true. But I don’t believe Teresa has been doing this forever. So I hope that her and her attorney have say to who let’s cut this out like we had a successful decade long run before this. Like she doesn’t need it. And she doesn’t. She’s but listen, you could say that. Oh, she’s obtuse. You could say that. She doesn’t express herself. She’s funny. Okay, when she’s in the confessional, and she says things wrong the way she enunciates things. She’s entertaining. She’s a reality star. Yeah. Period, end of story. And nobody should interfere with that. Because she’s had quite a bit of success being the reality star that she is without you never saw juicy job coaching her. Yeah. Back to Basics. I agree. And I think that I think that’s a conversation. Listen. I don’t know it. But if I was Bravo, I think that’s a conversation that you sit down and have with her. Yeah, back to basics. Like we don’t want to lose you. You bring in a lot of money. You bring in a lot of viewers, we can click you up with new people. Yeah, I agree. Should we talk? Let’s see her. So you want to touch on Dubai? Because I was just thinking I think that I want people to get into Dubai and I
listen, we’re guilty. Okay, the first season. First of all, I think there was other stuff we were more interested in at the time, or the shows I really didn’t give it a fair shot. And I’m going to this time. Yeah, I think they’re coming into their own. I am really enjoying and finding myself very entertained by this season. So far. There’s a new housewife named Celine, and I love her. She parties. She’s fun. She’s very direct. Her personality. reminds me very much of Marisol from Miami. It’s funny that you see that because as I was watching, I was folding laundry and my daughter walked in and she’s that the girl because of course she knows Larsa from traders, because my kids don’t watch housewives. But when I did watch traders together, isn’t that the girl who’s with Michael Jordan’s was married to Michael Jordan son. I’m like, first of all, they’re not married. I can’t decide if I like her yet, but I like her for the show. I think that she’s thirsty for the spotlight. She named dropped a lot of like big singers. We sort of videos of her singing beautiful voice great talent. So my impression so far of her and I owe that we were given the first three episodes. But since there’s not a ton on I personally am savoring. I only watched the first episode so that since they shared it with us, and shout out to Bravo, thank you very much for sharing the first three episodes with us as they did some other accounts. I think it’s a great idea to get to get the ball rolling and this is a sanctioned share guys like this head yet and that’s the other thing like I’m honest, like I do, and I’m very grateful that Bravo respects us and our pod and does share things with us. Yeah, they
they do send me media packs when it shows coming out like they do these things if I was some crooked corny account working with housewives behind the scenes and doing all dirty stuff, they wouldn’t be sharing episodes with me yeah period. So that shows you everything you need to know I digress. So my feeling on Tallinn is that she had a really cool life in LA and she may or may not have hidden it, you know, more famous but she met and fell in love with what I’m going to assume is a wealthy man who’s Dubai based and moved there. So she’s like, ready like she’s now married a few years probably and she’s Oh, I gave up my fame for him. He owes me this. Yeah, but she slipped right in in to the cast and it there’s no like awkward like it feels it is a genuine relationship because I think most if not all of them had met her before because she was friends with Brock I gotta say Chanel, Leon, and Caroline Stanbury becoming friends. This is the pair that I feel like you’ve always needed because those two together I find hilarious so they’re at that brunch. And Chanel says to Caroline like, I’m having fun. Are you having fun? And Caroline deadpan does not change her. Like her expression has these big shades on and she’s this is me having fun. I laughed out loud because I love it Caroline can poke fun at herself and her Botox like I’m just enjoy pre facelift. This is pre facelift. I think she looks good, I think. Yeah, first of all, the women are beautiful. They’re also beautiful. Their clothes are amazing. The scenery. I have to say something though, I know listen. I don’t really remember Sarah specifically, as I said, I wasn’t that invested in the first season, but she nuts. Is she crazy? She’s so spiritual. And we’re watching that and then we learn that she weaponised Chanel’s really very serious abuse. Oh, and she did a very Saturday did a very bad job of explaining it like I’m not feeling the spiritual wholesome gal she’s selling. Yeah, I completely agree. Just
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I will tell you I actually really liked Sarah the first season because I remember she’s very close with her dad. She is very proud to be Muslim and you know of her religion and her family traditions. And she’s an entreprenuer and I think she is the most beautiful person on this show. So I loved her season one
you know and especially by the way, she’s an entrepreneur in Dubai, where it is just such a patriarchal society. But this season I just feel like she’s on this high horse. She’s I am the calm enlightened person in the act is just getting on my nerves. And it’s not true and watching her and conversation with Chanel. It’s not true, because the only thing to say there was I
Didn’t it? There was a much better way to explain it. Yeah, there was and honestly, it should have been like, I think Korea should have been like, you’re right. I never should have spoken to the press about this subject in the first place. And I’m sure that her reasoning which we didn’t see it we don’t know is it was on camera. That’s not the point. That’s not the point. It is not. It is not like when Chanel says to her work on your soul stop fixing your face. Apparently Sarah’s had a ton of plastic surgery. I assume that’s before we met her. You can’t tell she’s gorging my house I really truly think she is the most beautiful person on that show. And there’s they’re all beautiful but yeah, other than the Chanel situation I feel like it’s like the nice lights housewife drama that we like like they’re fighting over who has the best party is and somebody throws out this. Oh, Lisa, I think because I heard there was no decor at Chileans party so no, I am not sad to miss it. Just stuff like that, that we love and like this whole fighting over Beyonce and who? Oh my god, I love the argument about who had the better Beyonce seats and none of them would let it go. No. And they kept coming back to it. Yeah, it was so good. Yeah, so guys, if you’re this is not a paid ad Bravo. It doesn’t pay us for those but it is I think it’s a nice breath of fresh air. I think I’m really loving this cast because they’re not I think they’re a little more use the camera. I think they feel a lot more comfortable. They do truly have these friendships. They and then there’s some changes and some shifts in the friendships that I really enjoy. And if they’re not friends, they’re all like truly intertwined and run in the same circles. Yes, yeah, I’m feeling it the fashion the scenery, and Amanda and I have said this about other cities. This is a show housewives show where the city is one of the main characters and for most viewers, it is so different and so unique in comparison to where we live, right? Their homes, the desert the opulence. Let’s give it a shot. I love that they’re always drinking champagne. Yes. Like, first season it really didn’t. I didn’t give it my best bet. Like my best effort and watching the first episode I was like, Why didn’t I? So I’m in Yeah, me too. I think for me because I had gone back and watched ladies of London which previously I had only seen a few episodes of I know you love I love guys. If you’re looking for a vault show to watch ladies of London is really good. Yeah. Really good. I would love for them to do something in London with women again. With that said, Stansbury is so different from who she was in that show that I feel that threw me off a little bit. She is like not in any case your life like literally it was my honor before and I all British money and whatever. But her personality has not changed. Her situation has very much changed, but that’s shocking. And we don’t see her kids I think we will this season but that kind of threw me off because we watched her on ladies of London and she was married to an English guy. He was English, right? Yeah. And she was this It’s okay. I can compare it to oh my god, I have the best comparison. It’s like the Countess but yes, we watched the Countess every year go from writing the book with batters being married to the count. And then the next year she was getting a divorce and then the next year she was dating the French guy whose name is escaping me. And so we watched it happen. So even though it was this huge jump it would be like watching the Countess back then and then her being a cabaret singer. So there was this like long disconnect that made me being that she was the only person and she was our only Touchstone which initially drew us in to watch it it had the opposite effect for me because then she has this like young boy I it’s funny because I actually I didn’t have that same experience because I followed her because I just I’ve always enjoyed her I followed her on Instagram this whole time and so I and then she started this divorce not dead podcast a few years ago kept up with I kept that absolutely her and then like when she got she started dating Sergio and then they had this epic engagement and all of it because she does all this beautiful travel I if anything I would say she’s almost more of a travel influencer. There’s her money
You from I know she does make a lot of money as an influencer like you just said she actually does that I know. But now when she split Do you know if she had her own money to cheat get a lot of money from the husband does she come from money is a little bit of everything because clearly they’re very wealthy. And he’s, he was a footballer, so he may have some money. I don’t know. But he’s also young. Yeah. Where did all this and he’s not a household name, footballer, you know, back home? Yeah, he I don’t 100% know, because I do know she had this. It was a party supplier party planning business. I can’t quite remember that business closed. And then they moved to Dubai. They I think that of course happened after that point. But I don’t know, because she’s seemingly always, always lived in opulence from what I could see from what she showed on her Instagram, which again, is you never know. So I don’t know. But I think she does quite well. And I think too, there is a very big audience for her being a an expat in Dubai. And because I remember back in the day, she was showing the lifestyle, and I think being one of those people who was on the front lines of showing like, hey, Dubai has changed. There. This isn’t the same kind of place that it was even 10 years ago. I wonder if maybe that’s part of where some of her influence or money has come from is from Dubai. That makes a ton of sense. Yeah. Because I remember I don’t remember what it was, but what maybe a year ago, when the Atlantis in Dubai open, and they paid like I know Ali Zara and went and tons of influencers. were invited and given like, I think Beyonce, I think that was the Beyonce concert that they’re referring to, as a matter of fact, yeah, Beyonce performed and whatever they stayed in, like, we all know, the hotel rooms that we saw, first in the Sex in the City movie, when they went to Dubai and then on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Remember that hotel, they stayed in the shark suite. They they promote themselves a lot, because they want people to want to come and spend a lot of money so maybe that’ll be our first cocktail party trip. That’s Dubai. If you’re live Dubai, we can open up our schedule is for you. Atlantis if you would like to offer us free rooms for us and all of our 1000s of cocktails we’re down we I can already see that we can interview Caroline and Chanel. And we can we can show everybody the drinks that we’re having. We can go to Caroline Brooks’s salon, which looks incredible. I also loved the exchange with her and the ex husband. I think she’s gonna have a very interesting storyline watching them become friendly and CO parent and him being her fixer upper. Like it looks good. Yeah, well, it looks good. It’s worth checking out. And yeah, so a lot coming up. We’re gonna we’re gonna be talking trader we’re not gonna be talking traders yet. And I want to say this because we’re going to talk about the cast and everything on our cocktail party pod. But I’m going to say this so that everybody hears it. I have let my traders sources No, I do not want any spoilers because I want to enjoy the show. So don’t ask me who’s out first because I will not know I made that decision last time and I’m sticking with it and I’m so glad I did because it would have sucked watching it knowing Yeah, and it’s fun with the kids because the kids asked me to they’re like Mom, do you know who wins and I can honestly say no, do you know and I think this is the case with traders. They said do they send everybody there and keep everybody there? At least even as they’re voted off? Or do they send people home as they are voted out? I’m pretty sure they go home as their voted okay, that I can get people have asked me that and I want to say that’s what it is. I think also like for a lot of people they’re in Europe so they probably like book a flight go somewhere. That kind of thing unless they have to get home for obviously filming or whatever. Right? But I don’t think that the show is going to like because the other thing is what we learned is we don’t think they stay in the castle. I think they stay in like a hotel somewhere else so don’t want because real feelings get involved. So you don’t want people have been banished to be around the cast because then it can influence them. So I’m gonna say they’re sent away. Yeah, I think they’re sent away for that reason. Yeah, but we love you guys. Hope that if you’re listening on Friday, happy Friday, Saturday. Hope you’re having a great weekend. And we’re rolling into summer. So I hope you’re listening to us traveling somewhere and enjoying your summer. Until next time, thank you guys. We love you guys.