Was at the watch party. I knew carl was nasty in what he said during the break up sit down but i was truly taken aback at how nasty he got!
I can’t remember like quote for quote but overall it was just a lot of low blows, the kind that you know will hurt someone that you’ve known as long as they’ve known each other. He just kept jabbing and saying such triggering things, a lot of lines you don’t cross.
Then he was also like i’ve gotten complaints from the landlord with how loud you are yelling at me. As a NY’er I find it hard to believe. In nyc it would have to be like dv level for them to contact you. He’s gonna have a hard time playing the victim card after the things he said that’s for sure.
Wow. I believe he tried to really make her look bad to justify the breakup.
Not sure where you live in NYC, but in a high end, concierge building, any type of screaming warrants a call, especially if it’s continuous.
The best part about all of this is Carl hasn’t played victim though- he’s just trying to dismantle her victim saga.
Carl is desperate to come out of this looking good. The dude needs a good Q score if he wants to make a living doing brand deals.
Hes going to say, at the reunion, that there was a lot that we didn’t see. I’m not tolerating that for a second. I’m judging both of them on what I see … and what I’m seeing ain’t great for him.
A landlord wouldn’t know exactly who is yelling at whom, just that a lively conversation is taking place. Moreover, a landlord wouldn’t go to the alleged victim to complain, they’d send a note to all parties about noise… and IF they thought it was domestic abuse situation, they would call the police, they would not put themselves in the middle by again complaining to the alleged victim.
This person is 100% right about the noise complaint. There’s no way that would happen in NYC
He says such triggering things like what? That he also has needs and feelings in a relationship? I don’t think it’s so bad to ask your partner to be encouraging, and not be demeaning. It’s one thing to ask detailed questions with excitement and enthusiasm, and another to be grilled for details after an informal business conversation. Do I think they were right for each other? No. But I’m having a really really hard time seeing this monster that Carl is supposed to have been to her. He should have ended it long before he did because he knew it wasn’t going to work, sure. But I’m not seeing this cruel, conniving asshole who planned to decieve or try to change people’s opinions. There’s also no one in this universe that was blindsided by that relationship ending. Idc
I’m so tired of Carl playing the victim! Dude, you are not clean and sober, you still use a mind altering substance! It may be just weed, but it is definitely mind altering! Grow up man child!
Lindsay that she renewed the lease on her own & was able to get the price lower. The landlord never would have let that happen if they were getting noise complaints.
I lived in a luxury building in NYC for 7 years and noise complaints were only given from management if the neighbors complained and the building representatives went up and also heard it after the complaint was lodged by the neighbors. But I’m sure every building is different.
OMG I started watching Summer House again from Season 1 and Carl is the same insecure, job hopping asshole he’s always been, just now he’s not drinking and doing coke. He admits he is a horrible communicator and self sabotages in seasons 1/2. I’m not surprised by any of this at all. I cannot wait to watch tonight! Team Lindsay, who btw has grown alot over the years. Not perfect, grown!
Carl was just as delusional as Lala, some how thinking they would.get the good edit. Everytime he hit Lindsay with a low blow he had a grin on his face, how he thought people would side with him is insane!
NYC resident here – The building management would absolutely get calls from other tenants if there was prolonged or persistent yelling.
She said her landlord cut her a deal to renew the lease so I guess the yelling wasn’t that bad. He continues to display narcissistic tendencies which is not uncommon in addicts. He picked the very wrong person to try to control
Carl is Sandoval. Sandoval’s jokes at the reunion were the same – lines that he crossed for the shock value, but cruelty and low blows as a result.
Bravo loves to cast a douchebag
This is where I’m curious about what happens behind-the-scenes. For weeks now, they have been having issues in the Hamptons. What has been discussed to the point that both of them would be snapping at each other, but choosing to save it for the cameras. I feel like both of them are very similar. I also think they want cameras around when they address certain issues because they want witnesses considering a lot of what they say is spun in a different direction by the other party. I’m not on either side because I think both of them are reacting to how the other party acts behind the scenes and unfortunately we don’t see that. It’s a lot easier to play victim that way, which I think they’re both good at.
When someone treats you badly, at some point you reach your limit and everything spews out like a volcano.
I just watched… was he really so nasty? It seems like they both were pretty unemotional. I’m surprised. I expected to 1000% be on Lindsay’s side, but it wasn’t as harsh as I thought. It really feels like things were irreconcilable. Didn’t need to be filmed, but they def needed to breakup.
Nasty? We’ve all seen it play out at this point and he still doesn’t seem like the devil. Neither does she… but I’ve never seen two people less compatible. Which is what most of us have been saying since day one, so…
100% with you, Chrissy. Anyone can see that they both have said hurtful things to each other and could not move past their communication issues. No one was blindsided. I do think it is hard to break up an engagement period, so I respect Carl for doing it. I am not on either’s “team.”