100. 100th Episode! Jax is a Flip-Flopper; The Craziest DM We’ve Gotten; B’s beef with Tom Schwartz

We’re getting tips and seeing video that Jax already has one foot out of his marriage. A complete 180 from where he was a year ago? On the Valley, Kristen drops a bomb about another castmate, but then seems shocked at the backlash. We have some thoughts and observations about VPR that we’re not seeing anywhere else. What is B’s beef with Tom Schwartz about? And, in honor of our 100th episode, we answer Cocktailer questions. We answer Cocktailer questions, such as: What’s the craziest DM you have gotten? How did the account start? What is our favorite part of doing the podcast? THANK YOU Cocktailers for coming on this podcast journey with us! We wouldn’t be here without you. Cheers to you! 

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I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s teep.
Talk Taylor’s What’s up, Amanda? We’re higher.
I never thought we’d make it.
It’s a big day, guys. It’s our 100th episode. Why me?
I remember you and I being like, should we quit?
It’s not the easiest thing. I feel like podcasting. But it’s so fun. And I think it’s been really fun to you know, get all the feedback, not all the feedback. But you know, we do read it. And just to hear from you guys and hear you guys like and see on social media, you guys post pictures of listening to us in your car. And so just a big thank you to you guys, because you guys are the reason that we’re still here. It’s number 100.
I mean, I love it, I still get excited. Whenever I’m tagged and someone’s listening to us or they’re like on the beach like on vacation. A lot of times people send pictures. It’s so exciting. And we always forget to plug this but if you enjoy our pod, please subscribe, which you have to like, click the check, follow. Yeah, yeah, hit follow. And also give us a good give us a good rating because I feel like people that enjoy it sometimes just totally forget, I’m guilty of it myself, right. Like I always check TripAdvisor when I’m looking into hotels, but I so rarely write reviews that now since this podcast has really taught me like if I like so I never write like hater reviews because I’m not the pickiest person, so I’d have to really hate some pay. But if I really like something, I make sure to review it like hotels and restaurants because I realize now that I’m on the receiving end that it is important. Yeah. Because I feel like people are quick to write when something annoys them or they don’t like it, but then they forget to do it when they enjoy it. So yeah.
So like like be said, tell your friends. And we did get a couple of questions and some favorite moment kind of things from some of our cocktail hours that we’ll go through in a bit. But I mean, let’s start out with our usual our Some Bravo stuff. So the village or the valley, the village like can we get it? Right? No le village, the village, whatever. You guys know what we’re talking about the valley still enjoying. I think we’re what three episodes in. But wow, that email we got this week about Jack’s at his bar talking so very openly about his marriage to a fan. If you want to read the email, yeah.
And then that video went viral of him like he’s full on spiraling in that bar of his Yeah, so it was actually a DM someone reached out to me and they said, Hey, B, I was at Jackson’s bar on Thursday, Jax was very open about not wanting to get married again. And he said Brittany, he hopes Brittany find somebody else. He just wants to co parent. The followers said he was actually very open, friendly, nice. He shared with this person that COVID was really bad for them. And they were just too on top of each other. And so that was the excuse. So something I’m picking up on, because I think like COVID a really lame excuse, because we’ve been out of lockdown everywhere for a couple of years. So my thoughts are I think it does seem like such a flip, right? Because they started this podcast and like the whole theme of his comeback and the podcast has been I love being a family man. marriage wasn’t for me. But now it’s changed my life. And then it went to we’re done. Hope she meets a great guy because I want the best for her. And I just want to co parent. So like it COVID Is it’s doesn’t follow the timeline. Agree. Right. Like I agree. I think that I think that things weren’t good. I think that opportunities were coming to them. He has openly said to followers more than once because a bunch of shared with me that their brand right reminds me of Sandoval and Ariana. And I think that he they, as a couple kept it going started the podcast did the season. They were in a position where the money was back coming in. And it gave them the freedom financially to separate.
Yeah, I mean, nobody had locked down easy. But I mean, to your point, we’re a few years out at this point. I can’t help but wonder if Jax is returned to the spotlight after Sandoval scannable was sort of the impetus because if you’ll remember kind of to further your point, when he goes on House of Villains, he’s like, I’m just a family man, I have a, you know, a wife and a little baby at home that I need to provide for and he was all about just trying to be the nicer guy and not really leaning into the villain thing and fully leaning into this family man thing. Yes. I wonder given all the new attention, the bar, the valley, if those have all just gone back into feeding his ego to the point where he just doesn’t want to be tied down anymore and doesn’t feel like he needs that family man image to keep any of the deals that he’s got going. So I don’t know. I mean, if that’s the case, our eyes are on you, Jack’s like we’re clocking this we know we CEO. I mean, whatever, but just good for you for letting Brittany move on. Let’s hope that you actually do.
Oh, Brittany was on Watch What Happens Live and she said like, she doesn’t she she like of course she could never know for sure. But she doesn’t believe that he cheated on her. She never got evidence of it. But she just said it was toxic fighting over everything. And I think I agree with your timeline. I think that he has these opportunities. Now he’s back in the spotlight. And the juxtaposition of that and then going to just like the normal home life, he’s like, What am I doing this for? And it led to them fighting. She said it was to the point they were fighting over like literally anything and everything. This is how she
said like, I got together and audit God from the yes lawn lady and she’s like, I’m like, I love this. I love Janet already, just from watching the show, but I love her even more like that’s a girl’s girl who is going to be like we’re going to figure this out and figure out if your husband cheated on you.
But it and totally and watching Brittany on Watch What Happens Live. First of all, she referred to Jax as like he was my husband. It seems like you’re both pretty set in this and I think that Brittany I’m going to tell you exactly like what I see from what we’ve seen. I think that when they went away from the spotlight, I think they did have a happier marriage. I think that they had the baby. And I think he really was a family man for a time. And then when the opportunity came, he so quickly reverted back. That I think cuz she even said, like, we had a fight, and everything just became clear to me. I think Brittany was like, he’s never really going to change. I took so much work to get him to the point, which I’m sure he was never perfect, but their marriage was okay. And they were happy. And like the second he had the opportunity, he’s just right back to his old shit. He’s out all night. Because even that intro episode where it went from Vanderpump, to valley village, where he’s like, I just want to stay at the barber shorts and two shots all night. Like he was right back there. I think he went right back into that. And I believe her when she says like, she doesn’t have proof of cheating. And it really isn’t about that. It’s just him reverting so quickly to his old ways. And I think she’s tired. And I think our priority is her child. And I think they were sitting there because on their pod, a lot of people said, they were talking about a second child, I think she was sitting there, like, I’m not doing this, I’m not having a toddler, being home pregnant and having him out all the time. We’re going to separate and if he goes to the marriage therapist with me, and if he does counseling, and if he makes the effort, then we can try to make it back. But if not, like I’m done trying to raise a man, I have a kid to raise. That’s really how I see it.
Yeah. And I can identify with that feeling of it takes one thing and then all of a sudden, you really see things more for what they are I you know, I have definitely had an experience or two like that in my life. So you know, I just say Good for her, I hope that he doesn’t make things harder on her, or for, you know, future romantic interests, because just the way that he is treating Kristen’s new boyfriend, I have my doubts. Oh,
I think he’s in a place right now where he thinks he’s hot. He’s got it, and he doesn’t see her. So easily finding somebody new that he deems comparable to him. And I think he’s wrong, because I think Britney is a really nice person, obviously attractive person. And I think that if he saw her was somebody happy, somebody stable, I think he would be incredibly jealous. And I also think, and I’m interested to see what our listeners think. I think that women are different than men. I think, when a woman sees something for what it is, and the veil drops, and they make a decision, I feel it with Kyle. And Mauricio. I feel it with Jackson, Britney and so many others. But those are just the recent examples. It is so much harder to get back on top. Whereas men screw around, fuck up party cheat, whatever. And then they kind of do that for a while. And then they look at their house and their child and their wife. And they’re like, Wait a minute. No, I missed that. Yeah.
I mean, there’s a saying that. I think the two examples you just listed are perfect examples of this that with divorces, women mourn their marriage before they file for divorce. And men mourn the marriage after the divorce, you know, after the divorce is filed. And I I think that that could be true. I think that you never know Britney could find somebody quite quickly. You know, Life is funny that way. So yeah. 100% It’ll be you know, I could see it like a single dad. Like, that would be so cute. You know, like a little blended family situation for her. I could absolutely see that. Okay, so since we’re talking about the valley, we had this last episode with the dinner where they’re at this $18 million house like in the hills, and everybody goes into the center kind of knowing like there’s gonna wait,
I just have to say one
thing. Oh, yes.
That freaking annoying asshole Jessie, when he saying Capri? comprehends, he said Capri that after they say, Oh, I but he said it 800 times and he’s like, Well, if you want to get the listings, you have to be in coppery at Lala screen screenshot and she’s like, FYI, Jesse Josh. Flag is getting those listings.
That’s true. That’s hilarious.
I love I’m a little mad at Lala but we’ll get to that. Oh,
okay. Okay, so everyone’s kind of knows like, there’s gonna be a fight. Kristen tries to handle it. With Michelle. Michelle says she’s not ready, which is just kind of like code for like, Oh no, no. We’re gonna have this out at the table. This is all stemming from Kristen. So Kristen, at the girls night, the last episode comes out with this statement and it kind of throws everything into chaos. She says that Gen Ed’s who is blonde and pregnant, just for everybody to kind of keep in mind who’s who, that Zack told Janet, that Michelle. So Michelle, who’s married to Jesse that Janet said that Zach said that Michelle, might be a Republican and might be racist, essentially. Okay.
So here’s the reality is, is a conversation was had, and Janet explained it that they were out to lunch, they were talking about, I don’t want to say the wrong thing.
It’s called the don’t say Gala. And Dona
don’t say gay law. And Michelle said something that indicated that she agreed with the law. And Janet said she simply mentioned it to Zach, but she felt that Michelle had gotten lost in the wrong algorithm, kind of like saying like, Oh, Michelle doesn’t really feel that way. But, you know, she’s being influenced by what she sees online. Now. Okay, a couple things. The conversation happened. Things were said. Now, they’re all sitting there like, well, we don’t want to call. We don’t want this on television. So I don’t think Kristin is lying. I don’t think racism is the right word, right? It’s more this may be prejudiced, right? I don’t know. Because racism to me. He’s like, I don’t. And they’re kind of like the husband, Jesse and Michelle keep saying how she’s Mexican and Persian and it’s not about someone’s race. It’s about someone’s sexual identity preference orientation. Okay.
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Now Kristen, however, we see her get so upset. She’s like I was canceled for these allegations. I was this and that. But you brought it up. Now listen, this is a reality television show and I’m very happy she brought it up because she’s giving us great reality television. The conversation was had they’re all gonna have to try to weasel their way out of it. But it isn’t as if Kristin made this up out of the clear blue sky. But she also didn’t have to say it and then nobody would be bringing up why you were fired from Vanderpump Rules. But here we are and what do you expect Jessie and Michelle to do? They’re gonna deflect from themselves and talk about how you are accused of being racist. Yeah, I so we see next week Jax does chime in but Jax and Brittany are literally just sitting there because all that going through their minds is why the hell do Kristin bring this topic up? Like? Yeah, I think that’s the reason Jax isn’t on the show. That’s the reason Brittany isn’t on the show. That’s the reason Stassi isn’t that’s the reason Kristen isn’t so but Kristen can’t help herself. That’s why she’s such good reality TV.
Yeah, I agree. Can I ask you? If I’m curious if you feel the same way? Kristen’s boyfriend, Luke is driving me nuts, his being so overly protective to the point where he is like, let’s start. Let’s go, buddy. Let’s go. It feels like either the guy is putting on a big front. Or he is perhaps a little aggressive and I don’t like it.
Okay, the hand motion?
No, I’m talking about Luke Kristen’s boyfriend first, like, oh, so like, I don’t like the way that he is like, it just seems like it feels like he’s either itching for a fight. Or he’s like, putting on a front for drama. Or
he’s trying to come across as a very loving, protective boyfriend, right? I find him Something’s off. Something’s off with their relationship. Something’s off with him.
irritates me. And there
are rumors floating around that essentially like, he wants it to be on the show. Which, you know, listen, all established reality stars have this. They have people they run the risk. John Janssen, you know, the list goes on. Men that you know, Brooks. I mean, yeah. Ramona has said it like men who are so eager to date reality stars. And what a coincidence, he started dating her right as the show was picked up. And now he’s this knight in shining armor. And nobody in the cache really likes him. And if it looks like Yeah, and if he was this nice boyfriend, whatever, why would they be so opposed? I definitely think it’s a phony situation. I think he wants to come across as like Christians, right or die. It’s, he’s awkward. It’s
for sure. Very awkward. Very it just like I said, it’s like, or he he’s like really aggressive. Like there’s something just off about the wit his outsized reaction, and he’s like, Let’s go like, I’m, like, gives us like, I’m gonna beat you up. You know, like, it just feels it’s I don’t know, it’s really irritating me. But that I think maybe
he feels inadequate, because he’s not from there. He doesn’t have the history. Because this cast really has history together. We don’t know the new people, but they all know each other. So I think it’s a combination of that. I think it’s a combination of him and Kristen really not knowing each other that well at all. And her being wacky. Dakki and just being like, yeah, come on, be my boyfriend. Well move in. We’ll have a baby and him being like, yeah, yeah, I want to be on reality TV. I’ll
do it. Yeah, he just lacks confidence. And I think there’s a difference between, like, confidence and swag and also being like, overly so like a Jack’s right, like, he just doesn’t come across as a person who’s very comfortable in his
own skin either. 100% And he’s not likable. Like he’s socio deaf. It’s, it could just be he doesn’t translate well on reality television, because certainly that thing,
right. Yeah, but what about Jason Jason Janet’s husband? i Oh, he’s great. I really like him. He is not like a boastful dude. And just seems awesome. very likable, very genuine. I like him immediately. Like him immediately.
I found it jarring and very telling that Michelle’s husband Jesse’s immediate reaction to her being called a racist was their business.
Yeah. And our family name.
They came out Okay, so we know and cocktail. There’s no, they announced their separation ahead of the show coming out. The reason they did that cocktail hours know this. I don’t know if we mentioned on the pod. Michelle has been dating somebody for a few months. Now what we have to remember is the shows, you find out you’ve been greenlit way before you start filming. And certainly way before we see it. I think their marriage was done. But they just stayed together to get themselves on the show. So that then they’re a part of the show. Because if they had said, Oh, we’re not together anymore, they may have passed on them all together and gone with a different couple. Well,
and they know too from enough reality TV show history that it is interesting for our viewers to find out later that something happened and then watch back and see what kind of on screen on video. All kinds of hints and cues and yeah, like, it’s it’s just unfortunately, it’s a formula that tends to work pretty well on reality TV.
But unfortunately for them, I believe that they probably were sleeping in separate rooms. And if not officially separated, not really, together. They seem to have a true disdain for each other.
Especially from her. He seems like, Well,
again, what we just said, right? Because, well, no, I don’t even think that he hides it better. What you said was 100%. True. She’s already mourned it. She knows their dog. Whereas he may be like, Oh, who knows? Maybe the show will help us get back together.
Right? Like that post that you posted today was so good. It said, Jessie putting his hand up in front of her face tells me all I need to know about him is a person couldn’t I couldn’t agree more.
I mean, you guys know I’m with my husband since college, married since you were 25. I have never my husband has no and I am. I don’t have to tell you guys loud, passionate can be quite obnoxious. My husband has never put his hand in my face. Like that. And obviously I’m not saying that. Not saying he was violent. It was so dismissive. I can’t even imagine anyone doing that. Nevermind my husband, and I had a dinner with that we’re hosting like, I can’t imagine like if I’m at a birthday dinner, either my husband’s birthday or my whatever, we’re hosting a dinner. Right? And we’re having a debate. And we’re supposed to be a united front because it’s against us right now the conversation, and my husband puts his hand I think I lose my mind. You sped up
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the fact that she didn’t get up from that table I mean, or safe. Fuck you.
Yeah,
it’s such a dismissive Dick move like I cannot even cannot even with that.
What I will say is, so now they’re split, and Jax and Brittany are split. So like next season, it is going to be great. It is going to be interesting to see Michelle dating this guy she’s dating to see Jesse’s reaction is Jesse dating. Who is he dating? Is it a broker they work with? Like, all of these things are going to make for such a good season. Same with Jax and Brittany, and it’s, you know, it’s unfortunate. But the messy stuff is interesting. Yeah,
absolutely. It would be super boring if it was all just like picnics and smiles. And that’s it.
I don’t really know where Zach and the other girls Jasmine like it doesn’t. And again, it’s early stages. But it’s kind of a disconnect because they don’t seem as close with everybody. Whereas like all the couples seem pretty into inter twined except Christine’s boyfriend and even Kristen I feel like she’s not as in the like, you know, I feel like she hangs with them. But like it feels like everybody else really is like together a lot.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we’ll see. Because I think on watch what happens like Britney mentioned that Jax got pissed at her because she went out with Kristen and then Kristen mentions that she’s like over at Janet’s all the time. So I don’t know. I I guess we’ll I guess we’ll see how it is. But I’m very much looking forward to the next season when Janet because I get a feeling Janet after a few drinks is spicy.
Oh yes, we need to see her drinking. She’s spicy. She spicy. But remember finding out you can be quite spicy pregnant when you’re those hormones are running through your body. You’re craving a glass of wine and again.
Yeah, I don’t know. I was just sleepy.
I was used to like pretty much sleepy the whole time.
I think that Nia and her husband. Okay, Mia is gorgeous. I know. She just had twins. I find her a little annoying, but they seem very happily married. Yeah. And I think he’s really cute. Do you think he’s cute? I think he’s
not my type. I can see the appeal, but just totally not my type. But I what I really like is that he is supportive of her career like that. He didn’t throw like a petulant fit about being alone with three babies for a weekend because honestly, I I’m not going to say most men, I would say a lot of people, you Adderall would do that. Because that is that is frickin hard work. I was feeling that poor guy like, for the situation that he was in? Because you and I both know what it’s like to have, you know, a small child and a baby but to have twin small newborns and a toddler I cannot even imagine. So good for him.
I mean, I didn’t want my husband doing work trips at that stage. So yeah, I get it.
I was scared. shitless the first day that everyone was gone. So like mother in law, or my mom and or, you know, like that I was a hello, hope Hello, yes, with my own baby. Because I was scared. The hormones are so crazy. And that, like, you doubt whether you can do it like and you’re sleep deprived?
Yeah. And like you’ve never done it.
Yeah, I was like, How do I take a shower? There’s nobody else here. It’s so funny, where my answer is I put his little like, bouncy next to the shower. That’s what I used to do when I was home alone with my newborn. Totally.
Or sometimes I would like shower at night, just for the next day, just that I didn’t have to have that stress. Yeah,
got through. Anyway, I know you might have a few too. But so we in honor of our 100th show, we thought it would be kind of fun to share a couple of things that the COC Taylor’s asked us about or asks us to kind of share, so let’s see her. I actually would love to hear your thoughts on this. What was your first thought when your new scan of all was real, especially after posting about it while before it was confirmed? Relief
because I I know it sounds in authentic. But I genuinely do feel guilty posting things like that. Because you’re posting that like, a 10 year relationship, having a real having an affair with one of her friends, right? So you’re like, I’m such a piece of shit posting this. But the thing about it is when you grow up on trash, talk shows and reality television, it’s like my hobby, and I enjoy it. We live in a world where a lot of people Hey, you guys are all listening. So like a lot of people like to listen to it. And I always say like, if I don’t post it, somebody else will. But when it’s something so big when it’s true, like it sort of absolved some of the guilt because I’m a woman who would want to know. So I come from that place, which like as an example, and we may touch on it later in the episode, there are some rumors going around about Kandi and Todd. And to be honest with you guys, listeners, we have had a couple of emails over the last year that Amanda Anna, I have chose not to post because I didn’t feel it was enough evidence and it’s not something I want to be real. So when we decide to post it, it’s usually because we’ve put the puzzle together enough where we think there’s legitimacy to it and we think there’s enough there like Amanda likes to say where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Now with this, it was one person but it was the details that the person shared with me that unless somebody was just making it up out of the clear blue sky
wouldn’t make sense. And because I remember when you called me to tell me about that, I was like wait, what like I it took me a minute to process it but you’re like she deactivated her. Ariana Diaz. tweeted her Instagram and
well that was after I had already posted it. Oh, that’s that’s when I knew because that was about an hour before. It was about an hour before. So we posted it. An hour or so later, two hours, Ariana deactivated her Instagram and I was like, Damn, it’s true. And then TMZ ran the story. Yeah,
that was such a naughty day. So crazy. I remember to like finding out details when we are on the doing the podcasts together the emergency podcast. That was when we found out about the video. And that was how I found out. Holy crap.
I don’t listen to Rachel’s podcast, but I do see clips and a lot of you guys DM me stuff when you listen to it. And like because it was so wild for all of us. And we were all so tuned in. It’s so wild now watching her try to rewrite something that is so clearly not what happened. It’s just silly. And I get it. Everyone’s got to earn a living and support themselves. And that’s what she’s doing and whatever, get your coin. But like we were there. We were all collectively there watching it. Oh, we know what happened. We sure we’re
okay. So here’s another one. What was only now? Could us new cocktails get a rehash on how the account website podcast. Everything got started. Okay,
the summarized version is I was always a big fan of like meme accounts, and reality television and gossip. And so I always was scrolling and liking that kind of stuff. And when my mom got sick, I found myself for the first time away from my two young children with some time off from work, sitting in a waiting room. You know, you guys know how it is when someone’s in the hospital or doctor’s appointments, that kind of thing. So I was like, called my sister in law and I was like, I think I’m going to and I’m also somebody who like, I don’t know if you call it compartmentalised, but like I sort of like wanted to just put my attention somewhere else, like occupy myself with something that wasn’t a serious health issue. So I was like, I called my sister in law, my younger one because I have one that’s my brother’s wife. And then I have one that’s my husband’s sister. So I called my husband’s sister. And I was like, I think I’m cuz she’s younger, right? So like, she’ll know she’s more in tune with this stuff with me. My elder millennial self, so I am going to make a meme account. Like for Bravo. And like at this point, she knows I’m dealing with a lot so she’s like, Oh, wow, that’s cool. Be in her mind. She said she was thinking like what that like, her mother just had a stroke. What the fuck is she talking about? So she’s like, all right, I’m like yeah, what do you think like Bravo she’s like, be Bravo and cocktails that you? You love Bravo. You love cocktails. I was like, oh my god, I love that. So that’s how that started. Then we got shut to I got shut down. I public because I was just posting stuff and I don’t really know a lot of people were reporting me I don’t know if it was reality stars. I don’t know if it was people just reporting me because I who could say right
Well, I remember when I started following you and I started following you with the Hillary Baldwin stuff. That was when I found you and I was like, this lady is so freakin funny. And she is all over Hillary and her How do you say cucumber?
Yes,
I came up. I remember I used to do memes that were like a slice of apple pie and I’d be like, oh look at this delicious apple pie or as Hilary Baldwin calls it Flon me and Sarah at I live for Bravo had so much fun with hilarious. I also thought she might be the one who shut me down because like, her husband so
powerful. So I feel like yeah, that’s when it happened is like right after
that. So what happened was then a lot of my followers when I got shut down, I’d started to account other accounts would share me and people would find me follow me again. And so they were like make a webpage because I I would also share a lot of gossip people would send me stuff and I would just post it about reality stars cheating this that. Like Brandi from Dallas, somebody sent me which was like the first crazy thing, a video of her husband making out with somebody in a club and I just posted it to my feed and I got like, I don’t know 40,000 followers overnight when I did that. And so then it kind of became like, oh, this crazy one will post whatever we send her so then I got the Louis warrior video. I’ll never forget when like Heather McDonald was like imitating like she redid the video with her friends and she was like shout out to Bravo cocktails who share this like That was wild. That’s what and then we started I started getting contacted by production of the shows Can we use your posts and all this kind of stuff? So that’s when we did the website and how I found how Amanda and I met was she followed Bravo and cocktails and And she inbox me and said, I can build you a website. And
then we did a we did a FaceTime call and like, hit it off, like found out. We have kids the same age and
so many things in common. We both studied in Florence. Yeah, we’re about the same age. Like we got married around the same time he had kids, right, like, we just have so much in common. And we just were having fun with it. And then how was it that we then decided to do the podcast less than a
year, right? Oh, yeah. The website went up. Remember, because I was taking my kids to a Halloween party. We went up on like, it was like a Saturday I think like October 20. Because it was like right before Halloween. And then
May was our first pod. Yeah,
we did. We because we launched with three episodes. So we launch. Yeah. And I remember
because I met it was my daughter’s communion. And we were at the communion party afterwards. Because, you know, I’m an Italian from New York. So we give them weddings for their communion. And Amanda called me and like, she knew I was at my daughter’s communion. So I’m like, What’s up? She’s like, what’s up is we’re number one on all streaming podcasts for TV and film or whatever. Yeah, on Apple. Shut up.
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So crazy, so chaotic. I was had for sure had a couple of glasses of wine as had you at that point. Yeah.
Your husband got on the phone at some point.
He always does the cocktail hours. No, he’s good to happen on a zoom here on there.
I love it. Oh, he’s so supportive. He’s so great.
He is he really is. And like, what we were saying podcasting is hard. It’s hard because we’re like, you know, working moms too. Yeah. And a lot of people ask me that, and I don’t I don’t discuss and neither Well, I made it as a little bit. I don’t discuss my work at all. But like, I have a career that is fulfilling outside of this. So a lot of people ask me, why do I still work? So that’s like the blanket answer to that, like I enjoy both. Yeah. And because I have such supportive husband and family, I’m able to do both. And I’m very fortunate to have that.
Absolutely. Well, you kind of just covered this one because we were just saying craziest DM you have ever gotten, I will say, you know, because we get the send us t emails, we both get those and we get some really funny ones. And I am never going to let this go. That there was going to be and this is the email said there was going to be an ultimate girls trip. That was the seven deadly sins. I can’t even get through it. The Seven Deadly Sins. And for those of you guys who are who are newer caulk Taylor’s sloths is one of the seven deadly sins and that just became this big running joke. And like, it was so funny to us. To be clear,
we never believed it. And a lot of times we get emails that are hysterical and clearly made up that we share for the humor of them.
Yes. And that was the that’s a perfect example of it. And I mean, it’s you, you never know or we’re gonna be waking up to the next morning in our inboxes and that is one of the things that may It’s so fun to be part of this.
I have to tell you, I You probably didn’t see the email but it just came up on my phone. Like we’re getting heat because people are sending us an in my DMs to candy just posted for her and Todd’s 10th anniversary. You’re wrong. I want to be wrong. I love candy and Todd, if you guys have followed my account, you know that I love them. I think I have a fantastic couple. But the thing about it is like, it’s gossip, and they know what they’re getting themselves into. And they profit off of it. So I always feel guilty Listen, but if I don’t post it, somebody else is going to Yeah, these people want to be relevant like the brand deals with the brand deals and the fortune and the fame. Unfortunately the mess comes to
Yeah, I mean but at guys like just people posting on social media does not a happy couple make. We know this specifically a great a great example for you. We behind the scenes had been getting some to you that Portia was not that happy in her marriage, which we posted. Right and literally the week before. They both post this video of super loved up. He’s bringing roses and balloons on Valentine’s Day to his wife in this golf cart in there frolicking in these jet skis. And then literally the next week, she filed for divorce. Like she had me fooled at that point, too. I was like, no, she looks really happy. But so we you never really know what’s going on. I am definitely with you be though, I hope that I hope that the candy and Todd thing is not is not true. It just we’ve gotten we’ve gotten some smoke. Oh yeah, that way. We’ve gotten some emails that are just making us question
it. Yeah. And they’re and there can be truth in things. Right? Like, you know, we had an email cocktail hours know about something somebody witnessed. It doesn’t always lead to divorce. Yeah.
So absolutely. And this is a good one. I love this question. And we’re not gonna give us the answer, guys. But how many Bravo celebrities are members of cocktail party.
I can’t say I can’t reveal any cocktail hours. Whether they’re a Bravo lab, a celebrity, a real celebrity, you know, producer, head of the whole network I couldn’t possibly know or reveal that. Because we keep our you know, people we do covered, but I will tell you that some of them use their real names. Which is funny. When we first launched it, we were getting people signing up. And like you don’t know, right? Like, am I just signing up? Is Kenya more? Or is it Kenya more? And I’m not saying I’m just using her as an example. But some of them I know are because they’ll, you know, inbox me directly after I post something. So yeah.
Okay, how do we feel when the posts on the website or Instagram or wherever become a part of a Bravo show? Like Real Housewives of New Jersey or Vanderpump Rules? Oh, we hate it. We love it. We do get we get releases from producers. So we get a heads up, we know when it’s at least going to maybe happen because they have to get a release to actually show if it’s going to be like a headline from our website. But or like from your social or whatever it is, but in some cases, they will just refer to something like the Louis video so we didn’t get credit for that button.
No, but in that season, they did use like a couple of our posts, but I would the Louis video I think somehow since he owned the video, like there was some legal reason they couldn’t show it. They wanted to show it and they like recreated it kind of or like in in Potomac when they recreated the nail salon scene between Juan and the assistant coach, which I actually found hysterical Yeah, I think I had assigned a release for summer house we were on winter house I think I did one for so and sometimes I totally had forgotten about winter house. And I was watching it but I was like 20 minutes behind. So Larry shout out to Larry our Bravo by gays we’re gonna hopefully have him on soon. Call me and he was like be are you watching winter house because you’re the storyline. I’m like, shut up. And I was like, wait, I think they told me but you never know how it’s gonna go is even gonna make it on or whatever. So it’s always cool.
Yeah. Yeah, it is. It’s super fun. I have a question for you. Be what is your favorite part about during the podcast?
My favorite part is definitely hanging with you every week. Ah, because we’re friends now and we don’t same way. And we’re both so busy. So it’s like, for us to have that time is really nice. But I do stress the day off because I’m like, listen, there’s a lot of podcasts and we want you guys to enjoy it. I hate when people are like, oh, you know, so we want to give you good content. So I definitely feel Do you feel that way? Like, I feel pressure to make it like, juicy and yeah,
yeah, cuz I mean, we always want to hold to, you know, what we, you know, to try to bring you guys exclusives and yeah, no, I completely agree. I was gonna say the exact same thing, like getting the hang with you, I think is so fun. It’s just a we hear this from a cocktail hours to like, I don’t get a chance to talk about a lot of these shows with people in my real life. Like, I definitely have friends who, you know, watch the shows that I will talk about when I see them but like, you know, I know you know this, like I don’t get to see my even my closest friends every week for Our Lady lacks conversation. So it’s
write fun, and like, and then when you do there’s like real life stuff that you want to talk about. Right? So that’s why I know that the cocktail is love having this because that’s all we all have in common. That’s why our zooms are so much fun. And it’s especially as time goes like I look forward to those zooms so much and it’s funny. Okay, so why I love the Zooms I feel no pressure with the Zooms because it’s like I know that the cocktail hours are going to like spit stuff out for you and I so there’s no planning, we can go in there blind. I can have a couple of drinks and not worry that I’m gonna be like slurring my words because they don’t care if I am because they are to be sped
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Like it’s so relaxed. Yeah, I love I love the zoom, a zoom real
because we get I mean, we had one where we had a cocktail or just share some life experiences that just felt like everybody was sharing kind of within this very safe space. We’ve had people who brought T to as to zoom and what tell us you know, they’ve seen something or they know somebody or whatever. And like, it’s, it’s just such a fun and unique space.
And the reason better and better.
And initially, Amanda and I planned on recording them, for people who couldn’t make it because and we always stagger it, right? We try to do it different days and different times because we have cocktails from all over the world. But also everyone’s schedules are different depending where you live, depending what your life is like. But the reason we can’t record it is to hold that safe space because people share things that they don’t want recorded. They don’t want any evidence of so it’s kind of like you’re there or you’re not. Yeah, and nobody can screen record. I mean, I guess you could hold your cell phone up but like prove that it’s ours. Like you know what I’m saying? Like, it is truly a safe place and it is kind of like therapy.
Definitely. And like the feedback we always get and like sometimes it can. The conversation continues into discord. After, and I think a lot of a lot of us feel like that, like feel like a release almost from, like, all the laughing or, you know, having these real conversations. And then I gotta say to guys, there was some really good royal gossip a couple times ago. We’re not going to repeat it here. But those of you guys who were there, no, like, definitely something I had never heard before. So, yes, that was pretty fun to hear that. Yes,
the Zooms are fun, if you can make it if you can’t, it’s alright. But it’s really fun. Yeah, what I got a lot of is like, what’s next? And I’m like, Jesus, what we got to do more?
Oh, that’s what I would
say. We’re toying with the idea of a newsletter. So we’re gonna see how that goes. Let us know, give us some feedback in discord or DME. And let us know what you guys think of a newsletter. Yeah,
yeah. I mean, I think time is the thing that holds us back. The most, it’s not lack of ideas. It’s not lack of wanting to do things. It’s just, you know, to busy moms, but I would love to give the website a little judging, at some point, give it a little style upgrade. I think that would be a fun thing to do. I
would have zero role in that because I am totally student ad, but I will love whatever you do. Yeah, so we got to talk about Vanderpump a little bit. Okay, so that was a fun down memory lane. For those of you who’ve been here and have heard it already. I apologize. All right. So I have to say something and I got a lot of backlash about this. Okay, what short showing up everywhere with the plant can we can we talk about okay, here’s the thing, and I don’t want to sound like a hater. I don’t want to sound like a drunk or a fatty I am both. But like, I just come from a world where it’s like you bring a bottle of wine. You bring a pie so many of you pointed out to me that number one a lot of people are sober curious or sober on the show and in real life. Number two gluten free this that the other thing? Yeah. And yes, I agree. It’s better. It’s nice. I love a plant. I’m not dissing plants. It just seems like like if
you make it a thing yes it it’s a bit i Okay, they wonder percent through it. Guys. Bring a Jo Malone candle or bring like no name like a nice just a nice smelling candle. Bring some board games. Yeah. Or printed cocktail napkins or Yeah, like a cute like printed reusable or paper cup or bring some cut flowers in a vase like a houseplant is it is I just think it’s a bit. Yes. Yeah. i He wants us to talk about it. Okay, so I’m dying to know why. Why are you mad at Lola? Okay,
I’m mad at Lala. Because on her most recent podcast, listen, you’re allowed. A lot of people feel that because Arianna moved on so quickly. She somehow doesn’t have a right to be as hurt or as angry. And Allah. I mean, I say Arianna, because Arianna moved on so quickly. And I will be honest with you, I do kind of I do feel that the boyfriend so quick to me, it’s like a little odd. However, it doesn’t mean a two things can be true. She can be finding happiness and a rebound and also still be processing the trauma of being lied to for so long and the relationship falling apart. And I some of LoL has points on her podcast I agreed with and I’ve said it here before. Something that has bothered me about the whole situation is we all saw that Tom Sandoval was yelling at women not nice to women. Not nice to cast members. And Ariana never inserted herself. She always was like, well, that’s him. You got to deal with him. So I do appreciate lawless point of like, you know, we all we all said he was like this. We all knew he was like this, but you never spoke up for us. Law llama on the podcast said something about well, maybe Leila wasn’t as close with her father as I was with mine. And I’m like, wait, what? Like that’s way below way below. Number one you don’t know her relationship with her father because you guys didn’t even know each other like then and number two, what?
Right?
What did like how could I say I’m closer with my mother than you are with yours? How could I know that? How could our viewers She in our interpretation of Mother Daughter relationships, how could we? How could either of us say that about each other? And it really like upset me. And it just made me feel like she’s on a campaign to just discredit her in every aspect. And I don’t think that’s fair.
Yeah, I don’t understand the relevancy of the point. So then it just feels like kind of nastiness to me. i And I will say I did not listen. So I did not hear the context. It just feels it feels strange to me. I will say, though, like, and you posted this, and I really identified with those that Ariana may still just be realizing all of the different ways that Tom hurt her, not just the cheating. But, yes, all of the different, you know, betrayals, and, you know, I think it’s, I think it’s unfair to report
even to mad at herself, like how many concessions she made for him that now she sees it as like being manipulated or being used or being gaslit? Or whatever term you want to call it? Yeah,
I just think the other thing that I can’t stop thinking when I watch is that this is not a real world situation, there is not a situation where in real life, somebody would go and sit at a beach party with 10 people there with their ex that you know, horribly betrayed them is, so it just doesn’t, I think that’s kind of what’s bothering me about the season of the show is just like, it feels like artifice. And I am not really, I’m not here for that. I just don’t feel I don’t blame Ariana, and I think she has the right to be as petty as she wants to be. And like, it’s a shitty situation that she has to sit there and be in these social situations with him. However, okay,
I agree. But I do see Lala as point of it’s an ensemble cast. And we want to show that people want to watch so if you don’t want to be with him, then don’t show up. But you can’t stop us from doing it. So I do, I can appreciate that point as well. Yeah.
And I I agree with her on that. It just doesn’t feel like a real situation like that beach day on like, this is such a, there’s nobody else around, there’s not really anything to like, be distracted by like there would be at a bar or nightclub. It’s just 10 people kind of sitting around talking. So I do think she’s projecting her anger a little far, by blaming the whole dog situation. On Tom.
I agree with that. Listen, you can’t have it both ways. Right. So and there’s another thing that I haven’t seen anyone say but I have thought I want to know what you think about this. I haven’t seen anyone say this. Tom Sandoval is a piece of shit. I’m not however, he’s paying in his assistant, but and is also helping Ariana a lot. Yeah. Like, I get it, he fucked up and he’s refusing to leave the house and they both own the house. But
if he wasn’t paying and as an assistant, what would they do?
Well, somebody said that, like she’s like, Well, we I would just have our lawyer do it. And like, Alright, so let’s, let’s say who you’re not like, you’re not gonna have your lawyer, like tell you if but nobody framed
it like he’s paying somebody to like, make the whole more COPPA settles. Right. Like, that’s number one. The other thing that I don’t disagree with him about if he wants to fire and I don’t blame him, Listen, he’s a piece of shit. But if you work for me, if I’m an asshole, and you’re the nicer person, that’s what it is. But if I employ you, and while you’re on my clock, you’re talking to my adversary, right? Yeah, no, I’m an attorney. Or if I’m are you you’re you’re my secretary. Right. You’re my secretary. And while you’re on my clock, you’re on a phone call interviewing with my adversary. Get the fuck out of my office. Yeah. Like so. I’m with him on that. I don’t see anything wrong. He’s not wrong for that. Yeah. You know, and also, like, your dog your responsibility. This is somebody you say you don’t trust you. You don’t think has his best interest of you or your pets. So why is why? Why are those pets being left alone? With him?
I also I’m just gonna say that like Vanderpump dogs has daycare. Yeah, but I mean, nor hire your own assistant to make sure that the dog is if the dogs gonna get into stuff but so like, I am not a fan of people eating in their room. However, I understand where her situation is right now, because that’s the only place she feels safe. But when you leave the house the next day, take your trash out with you. Like I find that roasts. Oh, that you bet somebody would leave any trash out in any room, but especially in a bedroom like I’m judging, I guess, but I think that’s No, I,
I mean, I agree. That’s gross. And, you know, the the counter that I’ve seen people say is like, well, if an wasn’t there, and he was downstairs she may not have because she didn’t want to see him. So there’s that aspect of it.
She left the house. Right. So like, that’s what I’m saying. Like take. I get why she ate in her row. I get it. That’s her safe space. And she didn’t want to see him. But take the trash out when you leave the house. Right? Yeah, you leave the room? Yeah.
I mean, we hear that they’re going to have another season. I really don’t think Ariana should go back. i But it’s hard to walk away from this money. I heard that Lala makes about 700,000. So if Lala is making that Ariana is making war because it’s based on seniority, no matter how many brand deals you have. You’re on love Island this year. But how did Sarah Hyland find out she was no longer on love Island via text or she saw it online or something. So there’s not much job security in any of these things. So you know, it’s not so easy in showbiz, you’re hot one day, you’re not the next for her to walk away from a steady gig. Seems crazy.
Yeah, it’s gonna be hard for her though, if she’s on location all the time. And so maybe that maybe that will just take care of itself. The question, I guess becomes to me, and that I want to ask you is, do you want to watch it? If Ariana leaves and then it? The rest of that has?
I just feel like I’m gonna watch Vanderpump regardless at this point.
Yeah, like, yeah.
And I may not religiously wait for it to come on on Wednesday at eight or whatever. You know what I mean, but I just don’t see myself turning my back on it. Even the worst housewife season. I always watch some of it and tune in for the reunion. But I don’t know if you want to call us super fans. Will the average person I don’t know. I think it’ll suffer. I think probably this season’s numbers are in as good as can’t be as good as last season. Right? People have tuned out they broke up. It’s over. Yeah,
I will say guys, you know how I feel about Sheena. But her daughter is stinking cute. Like she’s
a beauty and all they’re both very good looking. We can say what we want about Sheena. We could say what we want about Brock, but there are two beautiful looking people. Yeah. And that little summer is oh my god, a little cutie. She’s like the perfect combination of both of them. Yeah, she’s really cute. I have a lot of feelings on Brock. Yeah, I don’t. So I don’t see them. I don’t see them going the long haul. I think it was you. Do you said that. Like she loves to being in love. But he’s also very difficult and like he’s too much like her. Like, someone’s gotta have a chill. And he he doesn’t and she does it.
Do you think this whole like, why can’t we get a babysitter thing? Do you think that’s a real fight? Or do you think that’s the storyline fight?
I think it’s a real fight. I do think it’s a real fight. Yeah, I don’t I don’t know if I believe it so much. She’s anxious as like, she just wants it to be her mom. Because it’s free. I think that she also and I see it in how she reacts to him. I think she also questions like, listen, he abandoned two kids. So I think there’s a part of her that’s like, well, I know better than you do. Because I’m so much more attached. Yeah. And as a mom myself, I it is very the hardest choices I ever had to make where who was watching my kids when I was at work. I mean, leaving your children with somebody that isn’t you or your most trusted family or friends is very difficult. I found it incredibly difficult. I did it. I mean, I did it. I had to do it. I had no choice. But I found it really, really hard. Yeah, I agree. So I can really sympathize if there’s ever been anything I can sympathize with Sheena. But to Brock’s point, like we have to figure it out. Yeah, no, no, you
find Frankl you can trap her. Yeah, right over many many times. Like i i absolutely get it but it is it is a little strange. We who like like to, it just doesn’t seem like she’s you’re right. It just doesn’t seem like she’s at all interested in. And he’s
point of view. Also, because she doesn’t take his point of view seriously, and I honestly think it’s because she’s like, Yeah, well, what do you know, look what you did with your other kids. I hate to say it but it’s there. It’s hanging in the air. And that’s also why it becomes so contentious between them. Because it’s on said, but it’s known. Because
yeah, I mean, it’s another way she’s being dismissive of him and his feelings and his desires. So, yeah, but
I mean, honestly, I don’t know. She chose to have a baby with him, but I don’t necessarily think she’s wrong for feeling that way about it. Yeah. It is unnatural to leave your children in a nether hemisphere.
I also just wonder it a permanently it’s gonna if she’s trying to be controlling if it’s a way that she is trying to control men, by tying him to the house more to
Yes. Yeah. I think she wants to have the upper hand in the relationship as well. And or maybe she feels like like, What the hell are you really doing? What are you going to co host with me on my pod? Get the hell out of here. Stay home and watch our kid. Yeah.
Well, at least James and his mom actually brought up like, why isn’t Brock pissed that Sheena is still tracking somebody that she slept with? Before him rotation, right, which we talked about last week. Or like I have, like, again, broxtowe my favorite. But that was my first thing. I’m like, why is he not mad about this?
Because he’s such a fame whore. Yeah, he just wants a good storyline. He just wants good content. It’s not about her. It’s about him. And she’s about her. So two very shallow, folks,
huh? Yeah, like two mirrors being in relationship with each other.
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