139. Craig and Paige; Southern Hospitality; Is there honor amongst reality tv castmates?

Craig and Paige broke up. Here’s what we know. And we got a little blowback on our “coverage” of this topic so far – what do you all think? Southern Hospitality, season 3 premiered and we’re here for it. This leads into a conversation about whether there’s honor among reality tv stars. Jennifer Aydin publicly posts a rant about her experience at a sandwich shop in the airport. And it confirms what we both always thought of her.

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I like, will lay in bed, though, and keep putting it on, and I’m like, I have to stop
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what Taylor’s. We should know an outtakes one day of you really should. I was just asking her about a beauty product, and she was talking about it and how she puts it on and keeps putting it on and just rolling it on before bed.
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Happy, New Year cocktails, you guys. I feel like it’s so true because somebody, texted or DMS you. It’s like, the second one of us gets on a plane, all hell breaks loose in the Bravo verse. And that’s exactly what happened to the point where b She did an emergency pod, and then it was like, if you just record it on your voice notes on your phone, I’m like, people will understand. I was like, I can get it up today, if you can, if you can, take three or four minutes to do it. And she did it. And you guys probably can all guess, if you haven’t listened yet, why there was an emergency pod. I think my son jinxed us, because he actually said to me at the airport, he’s, I wonder what crazy things gonna happen in Bravo this week. And I’m like, Oh, don’t say that. And then when it happened, he was like, no, they broke up,
whereas a family attached to them, no, sir. Oh, they’re the best. And just so you guys know, I’ve got quite a few trips coming up, so should I just tell you guys when we’re when I’m going out of town now so we can try to schedule this ahead of time?
I’m telling you, code a memo out.
So I listened, and it was her, and it was Paige and Hannah talking through her breakup, and it sounded like they recorded it at some point before Christmas, and it came out the Monday after Christmas. So that was what the 30th that she and Craig have broken up first. Obviously, this is sad news for friends. For friends, do you hear me? For fans, but we feel they’re their friends, they’re our friends. They’re our friends. In our head, as Wendy Williams would say, it’s sad. And I know listen Amanda, and I think many of you enjoyed Craig, enjoyed Paige separately, and when they got together, it was like, so exciting. We all wanted those beautiful babies. Let’s face it, they’re beautiful. They seemed fun and happy with that. Said, We will not and I said, it’s an emergency pod. We will not be picking sides, yeah, and I want to be clear, sometimes there is no scandal. And from what I’ve heard, and I have asked around, there is no scandal here. And I’m relieved, because I know it’s I know it’s exciting. I don’t want to use the word exciting scandal. Everyone felt terrible for Ariana, but when you hear it, it is Ooh, and then you deep dive it, and there’s all this, but there’s also that sense of this is a real person that something terrible is happening to. Yeah, and there’s some podcasts I have never heard of it. They have a small following. I don’t even remember the name of it, but after it was announced, so this is important, guys, after it was announced by Paige on her pod, which was pre recorded, right? Somebody came out and said that they had a New York City source that told them page was cheating. So it’s pretty convenient to have a breaking scoop after right, a public announcement. It’s also much less believable, because if that had been out there, if the content creator said that and then they announced their breakup, that would be smoke somebody claiming that a friend a man. So it’s this guy, Marcello Hernandez, who I personally have never heard of. I don’t watch SNL on the regular. He’s a comedian. He’s a friend of Hannah Berners, obviously a friend of pages too. He was actually in the background on a summer house episode, saying hello to Paige, giving Craig a pound. The rumor came out that she was cheating on him. Somebody sent an email to du moi that Paige was spotted in a private social club in Manhattan on New Year’s Eve, and there was a hot guy near her. Now, literally, that’s all. It said. It didn’t like
I too, was out in Miami on New Year’s Eve, and there were hot guys there. It doesn’t mean I was taking them home.
So just to show you what like bullshit is this guy, Marcello, which was one rumor was in Miami, okay, for New Year’s Eve. No, he was not with me.
There are will be no rumors that I was cheating with Marcello Hernandez. Oh, my God. Paige was cheating with this comedian, according to people, but according to other people, was spotted in a private social club guys if Paige is out on New Year’s Eve, a day after she announces that she broke up with her boyfriend of three years, who is beloved by many fans of hers. She is not going to publicly do anything for a while, and the reason is because Paige is a business woman. Now I do not I believe that Paige is a loyal person. I believe that Paige did not cheat on Craig, because I don’t believe that’s who she is as a person, and I believe she loves him, and she wouldn’t do that to him with that said, she’s also a business woman. She is not going to tarnish her public image by beer being at zero bond nightclub with some hot guy. She wants to be with a hot guy. She’s gonna do it in the privacy of her own palatial apartment. Yeah, but I don’t believe that she did. I feel like I have so many things that I want to say. First of all, you should be watching this season of Saturday live. It’s been really freaking funny. It’s a 50 year anniversary, and Marcello is absolutely hilarious. I think he’s a breakout star on the show. And let me ask you a question, because I haven’t watched it. I’ve seen a couple clips online on the looks of it, and looks are not everything. Don’t mistake me. I know Pete Davidson is not somebody who is classically handsome, and God knows, the girls go wild for him. Does Marcello become very cute when he’s being funny? Because just on the surface, he’s an average looking guy, not a supermodel. Yeah, he has swag. I don’t know how to explain it. I think I might be taller than him, but I think that he seems to have swag. But again, we’re just commenting on this dude, and nothing about him and Paige, because I don’t believe it. I knew because I listened to giggly squad a lot, like, I remember hearing about him all the way back when Hannah was getting married, and now he was at her back her up party, yeah, like he is. He’s been in there. I just don’t I just don’t believe it.
Yeah, and I think it’s insane. I want to say that the fact that people have really turned on page, there’s been a lot of discussion. Really good point, because Craig was with friends in Aspen. Craig is very good friends with Dustin Johnson, who is married, or, I think, married now, to Paulina Gretzky. And Craig was out and he was skiing, and he was photographed with a group of people, and he’s gotten zero backlash, and I love both of them, and I’m not giving either one of them backlash, but it is quite obvious from where I’m sitting that the woman is getting the backlash for maybe having been out within the vicinity of a good looking man, but the man is out skiing, not quite Mauricio style. But you know what? It’s all over the place, and ask, yeah, I’ve been many times. It is strange to me that nobody is Craig. Was the post about Craig was, and again, we love you guys both. This is not us commenting on either of these people. It was, but it was Craig sitting by himself looking sad at a coffee shop, which, by the way, I got sent to me, yeah, and I’m not gonna say who, but by a Bravo, Liberty. Oh, interesting. I saw that got picked up. I didn’t get a picture. I just got the blurb, yeah. It just doesn’t feel fair. The this hating on page, I don’t And there’s been a lot of discussion on our cocktail or Discord server server about this topic. Which one of the things I love, I just have to do a quick shout out about our Discord. Is this loving, supportive, awesome community we have there too. People can debate and talk about different sides of a thing, but there’s no you’re a jerk, you’re a jerk, but, oh, I can hear your point, but I disagree because of XYZ, right? Which, by the way, Amanda and I hesitated even opening the discord because we were nervous. We did not want a Reddit type place where people were arguing with each other. Because, yeah, we love all of our cocktails equally, and we don’t want them in fighting, no, but we have none of that. We celebrate when people have get engaged, and there’s been some really sad things that have happened and they happily divorce.
It’s been, it’s just a it’s been a really supportive place. And so it was interesting looking at the discussion on Discord about this, because actually, I feel like most of the cocktails all felt the same way they’re like, why is she getting all of the brunt? And so I have my own opinion, which is this, I think a lot of people, I wouldn’t say only women, but many, mostly women in this group, who still look at marriage as the be all, end all goal, that is the end of the fairy tale. And they can’t understand why Paige, who has this sweet, amazing man who is dying to marry her, or that’s at least what we’ve been led to think that he really wanted to go, have babies, get married, do all those things because he’s a wonderful man, and people don’t understand why she would choose not to marry him. And it’s to me, you’ve, I’ve seen this with so many people, like, just because somebody’s wonderful, it doesn’t mean they’re the perfect person for you. I also said what I did the quick emergency pod to get to this point, I don’t think it’s fair for us to put and I’ll say me right to put my desires, or like, what I think I would do in a situation, on to somebody. And I think that it’s something that I can sit here and say, Oh, the woman’s getting all of the flack. But at the same time, there was a part of me, if I’m just being honest, that was like, Oh, my God, how could she break up with him? He loves her so much. And again, that’s my what I would maybe think I wanted if I were her. You know what I’m saying? There are these preconceived but I do put that on men too. There have been situations where people are dating a long time and I’ll think to myself, like, why isn’t he proposing to her? Yeah, she’s perfect for him. She loves him so much, what he’s gonna let her go because they’re gonna break up. So, like, it goes both ways. But again, those are my, like, life ideas of what should happen. And that’s not for everybody. Yeah, it’s not. And I think the other thing is, too, is people want, like, this kind of tied up in a bow, pat answer for why people break up. And like life is messy, guys, and when I say messy, I don’t mean necessarily. There can be a lot of reasons, but it doesn’t have to be like somebody cheated, somebody stole the money, or whatever. It can just be, I don’t like they, don’t think they’re compatible long term. I want to, want to say something, because we got a comment on our emergency pod from a cocktail. Er, oh, and back to what we said, Amanda and I said, at the top of the pod, sometimes there isn’t a scandal. This person is very mad that we have not reported a scandal. The person says, I’m gonna read it and then I’m gonna give my take. Okay, the Craig and Paige bias is.
Showing I am disappointed being Amanda. Have zero insight into the downfall of this relationship. They have been over the top, Craig and page fans, putting them in their relationship on a pedestal, treating it as beyond reproach, when clearly it has been trouble challenging for the past year, and we’re getting zero tea on it. If there were any other relationship, the post would be incessant. Here’s the difference, I am not going to make things up. I never have, and I never will. There is no scandal here. No receipts have come out. I have personally not even received an anonymous email about anything. Yeah, podcasting, accusing her of cheating with this guy, Marcello, who, by the way, was in Miami, and she was in New York City for New Year’s, and then there was her sighted in the vicinity of a hot guy in a club. We are watching southern charm, and we are watching Craig freeze his sperm. Okay? We are watching him talk to her about what he wants to do with the house. From Craig’s point of view, what I’m seeing on Southern charm, he was all in and they were together. Now, unfortunately, I am not a psychic. I am not in Paige’s head. I did not know she was questioning because she doesn’t call me and I’m not her therapist. I don’t mean to sound snarky, but somebody’s saying that they’ve gotten zero insight. Nobody knew until she announced on giggly squad, period. Dot, they broke up. As far as we know, there was no cheating. And if there was cheating and if there was a scandal, I have zero receipts, because I’m going to be perfectly clear, nobody’s above reproach. This is Bravo and cocktails. If you send me a picture of somebody cheating, yeah, period.so. I just want to say that I am not hiding it because I love them. Two things can be true. I can I love Ariana. I still posted it.
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there was a lot of smoke. I mean, that whole scandoval thing, there was guys, I’m not right this person at all. I totally see what they’re saying. Their scope is that, because we favor them, we wouldn’t post it. But I’ve posted many people who I favor. Yeah, same post for Gorgas, I posted a lot of drama about them that I’m sure they wouldn’t be thrilled to have posted. But also thanks for the vote of confidence from the cocktail er, which is that we actually know what’s going on, and we’re not saying because we actually often do have the real scoop on what’s going on, guys and like it when I’m not gonna make it up. Yeah, guys, it sometimes really can just be. It just didn’t work out. And listen, you still have yet to be on anybody’s payroll.
I wish. I have to be honest. And I said this a few minutes ago, but I don’t really get it either. To me, I loved them together, and if you saw that as me saying they were beyond reproach, it’s because from me as an outside person, as a fan, as a viewer, looking at them, I thought they were a perfect couple. I thought they were people in a similar world who understood each other’s lives. People thought the distance was a big thing. I think it’s better to be with somebody who understands your very unique work situation than maybe lives around the corner and is in finance and doesn’t get it at all and has a nine to five and doesn’t travel. You know what I’m saying? That was my scope. He loved her so much. She seemingly loved him so much. And another thing I want to say is that I never bought into the whole thing that he loved her and she didn’t care. Like, my take was that they both loved each other, and that’s why they were together for so long. I never believed like he was more into her. I just think he’s nationally a more emotive guy. Yeah, I do believe he is on a faster track to wanting family to get married and have kids, and I think that Paige is in a space where she’s, I’m only 32 and I’m not sure what I’m going to want to do that. So I think that they’re different, and I think that’s a glaring difference between them, but otherwise, I found them extremely compatible. Yeah, so it’s not, it was just my opinion, I guess is my point. Yeah, I liked their dynamic. I did I go with Paige. I didn’t go with Craig to buy a ring. I also think Craig’s like Paige. If you hear her on her podcast, she will talk about her mom in a way, like the people that she loves. And she said this about Craig too, like he is the best boyfriend she has ever had and that she’s learned so much. And Paige is not, to your point, a naturally emotive person like you don’t, but she, you know, definitely has her people. And I 100% believe like that. I don’t think anybody was more into the other I feel. I could hear the pain in Paige’s voice as she was talking. And remember, guys, it’s.
Break up for her too, which I feel like a lot of people seem to be forgetting about, and something that really struck me. And, listen, I’m married a long time. I I very much did the traditional thing. I married my college sweetheart. I married young. And what she was saying, like, really resonated, because I look at my daughter, who’s only a child, when you’re growing up, you picture your life a certain way. And she essentially said, My life looks different than I thought it would. She said it’s better, and it’s bigger than I could have ever imagined, but it is different, and it is hard to come to terms with that. You almost feel like you’re giving something up, or maybe society makes women feel they’re giving something up. And I can, I this is very random, but I said to my friend, I was like, You know what? When my daughter graduates College in her early 20s, I am going to say to her, if you want to freeze your eggs, it’s on me, God willing. I can afford to do that, because I don’t ever want my daughter to have that feeling of, I’m 32 I have to have a kid. I’m 35 oh my god. I’m 37 we watch this with modern women on our reality shows. We see it with Britain. We see it with We saw it with Lindsay Hubbard. We see it with so many people. Yeah, and men don’t have that same thing. There are some men like Craig, who have it in their mind and it’s what they want. And there is a difference between wanting something and feeling like, if you don’t do it now, you can’t have it. I don’t ever want my and I have a son too. I just if he wants to freeze his perm, I’ll pay for that as well. Bring it home, literally for the everyday grind. Wolf pack, tactical backpacks, fits, laptop, meal prep, gym gear, all covered, but they’re ready for more taking on the outdoors. Hydration ready, pockets, rugged straps and weather resistant materials. Have you covered catching a flight these airline approved carry ons make terminal life effortless, from mountain trails to airport gates, boardrooms to squat racks. Wolf Pack is with you every step. Find your path and join the pack@wolfpack.com
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Yeah, I love this. I’ve never actually heard anybody talk about this subject, but I might have to copy you, because I have a boy and a girl as well. And there is a definite the thing that really is hard is, especially as a woman, is you start to feel like my whole story, like my career was going really well, and then I was having kids, and it didn’t slow my career down, necessarily, but I definitely also really struggled, especially after the birth of my youngest, because my I was running a really large account, and I felt I was not home with my daughter, my I don’t remember, I say this a lot, like jokingly, but I don’t really remember a lot of the first year of her life. I remember certain because I was working so much, and it was I always felt like I the timing just couldn’t have been worse when I get start working on this really big account, and all these start things start happening, and I have a baby, and I you really are feeling like you’re juggling it all. And it’s it would be nice to be able to just strike while the iron is hot with your career and wait a little bit. And it would be nice to have the choice. So I think that’s a really interesting thing. You’re saying that it’s not, and it’s not if you freeze your eggs, you don’t have to use those eggs if you end up getting married and what? Yeah, just to take that out of the equation so that it’s not this thing of I’ve just had so many friends who have gotten married later, or all the different we’ve all I don’t need to explain it to you guys. If you’re listening, you’re you’ve been new. We’re all people who have been in these situations. And the way the world is today, we do have all of these amazing options. And I just one day said that out loud, and my friend was like, That’s the weirdest thing I ever heard, but also really brilliant. And I’m like, I think so too.
I am brilliant. We should start a movement. I love that they have no idea what it costs. I do believe that kids are on your insurance until 26 so hopefully insurance will come over. So guys, I haven’t worked out the details. My daughter is young. We’re nowhere near
by then, maybe you could just grow a baby in your bathtub. But I’m just saying the thing, guys, it’s a thing, and it is a thing that I I was over a lot of women. I remember saying to my husband, oh, we really should start trying. And I always knew I wanted kids, but there was just this sense of, oh, people are having trouble. There are fertility issues. If we’re gonna have to go down that road, we should start now, so that by the time we’re doing fertility, I’m not older, and if you could take that off of your head, yeah, yeah, why not? And again, my daughter may look at me and say, I’m not interested, and it’s her body, her choice, and she will do what she wants. But the option, I think, is not a bad idea. I love it, but I think that. And we see Craig being silent. What’s he gonna say? What do we want him to say? We see her.
Going back at creators because they’re posting and reposting stuff that she is saying isn’t true. And people are like, Why is she making these comments? Craig isn’t saying anything. And then if she didn’t make a comment, it would be like, See, she’s not saying anything, it must be true. So it’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t. And ultimately, I think the beauty of Paige, and the key to her success, is that she does what feels right for her. And at the end of the day, if you’re true to yourself, I think that’s always gonna get you to the best place. Yeah, not everybody thinks getting married and having kids is their destiny, or is their goal, or whatever. Just give them a little time. Give them a little space, both of them. I do think it’s gonna be really hard to watch southern charm. And then summer house. No way around Friday, guys, and we normally record on Thursday, but traveling New Year’s blah, blah, blah, blah. So I we did watch southern charm. Yeah, Craig froze his sperm, speaking of that whole topic, knowing that that was the whole conversation. He said, I he said, Paige isn’t ready. I’m just freezing my I want to freeze my sperm so that we know when, essentially, in a few years, we can be ready. Yeah, yeah. He told this, and then I bet you Paige gets flack for that too. Like, why did you let him freeze his she didn’t. This was filmed in the spring summer. It’s December. Yeah, things change. Okay, so let’s move on, because
I have been wanting to talk to you about this since texting you on Christmas, but we got a cocktail, so I’m gonna back up, and then we can back into what I’m talking about in a second, but we had a cocktail or inbox us that they also they reached out to the horse trainer who allegedly had an affair with Teddy and the trainer’s wife, his wife, the way her wife, the wife said they’re no longer together, and sure enough, a divorce filing has been made public of the horse trainer and his wife. So yeah, cocktail sent me a screenshot of the conversation, and essentially, was like, basically told the trainer’s wife. I don’t know if the woman’s a therapist or if she has been in a marriage with infidelity, but she basically was like, if you’re staying with him, you have to make sure he cuts off all contact and, like, this whole thing. And the trainer’s wife said, we are he is no longer my husband, or we are no longer together. Yeah. So then Teddy was really in her feelings on Christmas, which, I mean, we can give Teddy a lot of flack for a lot of things, but it was her first holiday having to split time with her children. Obviously she was upset. She posted like this, thank you to Edwin. She said, like being a mother is the best thing that’s ever happened to me. Thank you, Edwin, and then he posted a selfie as he was working out, and it looked like he had his ring on. So to me, if they temporarily reconcile, I just think their issues run deep. I think it’s very easy to be like, Oh, Teddy cheated. She has all but said that he’s cheated in the past. I think that their issues run deeper than we’re aware of. There’s no confirmation that Teddy’s still with the trainer, but the trainer is, I can confirm, according to people in the horse world, that he still trains her daughter. I would imagine that if Edwin and her were to reconcile, that would be an ask of Edwin’s. Let’s get a new trainer. I don’t know why he was wearing his ring. She’s posting these mushy things. Listen, it all comes back to breakups. Just aren’t easy. They’re not always linear. Oh yeah, for sure, it was interesting, though, because it’s one thing for her to be in her feelings and like I was watching her stories, she was posting her take out Chinese food feast when she was at Kyle’s. Because she stays at Kyle’s when she isn’t with her kids. And I can I only I know how hard it must be, especially her first Christmas without her kids. But if you’re in your feelings, and it’s one thing to feel that way and maybe even text your ex the Thank you, but to post this publicly, I was like, What the heck is going on? And it wasn’t just a thank you to Edwin. It was about how they met, and it was showing all these throwback pictures of them together, making out. Yeah. It seems strange that she would do that in such a public way, unless there is some possibility of them reconciling. But I 100% agree. I can’t imagine Edwin would be okay with Teddy continually taking her daughter to go see this trainer. Yeah, it just doesn’t add up. Over the holidays, I can’t remember even which day there was another cocktail spotted PK from Beverly Hills out drinking looked like wine. Perhaps it was luanne’s Fauci. Remember that? That was such a weird journey, by the way, so listen, the cocktail said he was drinking several glasses of wine. It could have been grape juice, guys, yeah, it’s odd. He’s highlighting his sober journey on podcasts, and then publicly, he’s sitting in the lobby of the Ritz Hotel in Rome. So like anybody, he’s just sitting there out in the open, like Daniel and.
The wine glass in his hand. We had the picture. We shared it. It’s not our journey. It’s not our business. But, yeah, it is because this is what we do. This is a random tangent, but now that I have entered the like 21st Century and I have a smart TV in my room, which you guys I know,
I know, is not a big deal for most tech savvy people, but you I don’t think Amanda the cocktails have any idea how clueless, like, it’s amazing that I was able to make an Instagram account and ever start this. That’s how not tech savvy I am. So with that said, now that I have it, I have been re watching Roni, and I am at so I was at the season I ended season eight, which is the Burke the berserk shears where, yeah, Sonia isn’t invited, and she goes, and Bethany goes crazy on, Luann, you’re a whore, bro, what you fuck everybody. And now I am on, I don’t even know how we got here, oh, cause the froze. Now I’m on the season where she’s about to marry Tom and that Barbara, one who ends up being a friend of maybe next season, after says to Carol, and it’s picked up. And it was like one of the OG Hot Mic moments, because now there’s a lot of hot mic moments, but this was an OG Hot Mic moment because they didn’t the camera wasn’t on them. The camera was on Tom and Luanne and Barbara is picked up saying, I guess because she was next to Carol’s microphone. And they honestly didn’t realize, Oh, I’m going to luan’s wedding, and carols, are you excited about it? And she’s no, but she’d rather just get married, and if she has to get divorced, and Carol’s all got and so then they’re all, of course, talking about it, as housewives do, without Luanne around. But it made me sad. I’m gonna tell you what made me sad, not the Luanne thing, because Luanne is out of her mind these seasons. She’s so giddy about Tom. She had this, like, whole weird posture, and, like, it was a weird time for her, it really was, yeah, but like, she was under a spell. She was under a spell. It’s like she was magnetized, yeah. So anyway, I’m glad she’s out of that, but it made me sad, because these seasons Bethany and so I’m gonna keep watching, obviously, but what I want to get to, and because I haven’t seen it in so long, and my memory is terrible, Bethany and Carol had such a really authentic, genuine loving friendship, and watching it and then remembering, I want to remember what the it was, and I know you guys will flood me and please do somebody I was chatting with in my DMs told me that it was that they’re a source, but They’re also obviously a Bravo fan. They said that Carol knows a lot of Hollywood, Carol socialite, and at some point she was invited to something, and she couldn’t bring Bethany and not set Bethany off. But I’m wondering if it’s around the time that Bethany’s fiance, Dennis shields, died, because in this season. So I’m getting there. I know what guys I’ve watched this, but I don’t remember what the it was, but it just made me sad to see their friendship dissolve, because it was so strong and such a nice friendship. I feel like Carol mellowed Bethany out too. That sounds so mean, but I liked Bethany better when she was friends with Carol.
Bethany was, like, definitely more she seemed more grounded. Yeah, she seemed more grounded, is the word I will use. And I have a complicated relationship with Bethany in my head,
because she is, we’re talking about her, and she hasn’t been on TV and how long. So she’s a star. She has that it quality, whatever it is. She has it, and her success is a zero surprise to me. I have to say, I I see Paige’s trajectory like a Bethany, like that unicorn who really makes it big, not that Paige’s personality is anything like Bethany’s, because they’re completely different. But yeah, I just really feel like Paige is about to go into another stratosphere with her success. But yeah, so I don’t know why I went on this tangent about Bethany, but I have a very complicated relationship with her, because I love her, and then also she has made herself a serious influencer, totally by accident, like at first we were all making fun of her makeup videos and everything, but she is now posting links and like her engagement being what it is, she’s probably making multi million dollars a year now just via Instagram links. Like, she’s a brilliant woman. She could sell water to a well, and it should be studied. Like you could say a lot of negative things, and certainly she shows her ass not quite to Jen Aiden degree, which we’ll get there, but there are things about her that are like to be studied and to be turn keyed. Yeah,
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The one thing I always really liked about but I’ve been a Bethany fan for a long time, recently, I’ve been a little less, but she always believed bad on herself and believed in herself, and wasn’t just she backed it up too. She’s a smart business woman. Women have to be bold, because if you’re not, it’s so much harder. I look at the breakup with Paige and Craig, I haven’t heard one person go, Oh, poor Paige. And nobody said she broke up with him. Listen the way she worded it, my assumption is it was more her call. That’s my assumption. That’s how it seems. That doesn’t make it an easy call. Yeah, she could have just kept dating him, and then when she met somebody else, or what, you know, what I’m saying, I don’t think she did that. I think she did this the appropriate way, with respect. Yeah, anyway, anyway. Give them some space, guys, and I hope they I think sometimes I tell this to my kids too, like sometimes it’s hard to see at the time, but sometimes what’s not for you is not for you, and there’s something better coming along, and I hope that is the case for them both. Did you get a chance to watch southern hospitality last night? I did, and I wrote down a little synopsis. Did you get? Yes, it was really good. All right, because I lost interest a little there at the end of the season. I did, but I am hearing it’s a really good season, so I’m all in. Yeah, I’m in Michael and the new assistant manager. He is adorable, cutie. TJ, and him have some cat and mouse flirtation. TJ, setting mixed signals. I love TJ. He’s messy, but he’s great reality television. Yeah, yeah. So he and Michaels were flirty, apparently, in an Uber, TJ kissed him, but then got out of the Uber and went in the house by himself, and then later in the episode, because Michaels was like, What the heck? Because TJ bought him coffee to work. And Michaels was like, Wait, what the heck was that about? Because I thought he wasn’t into me. That’s gonna be cute. And Michael’s, he’s, he’s adorable. And then we see Emmy and her boyfriend, okay? So we see a flash forward three months before they’re getting ambushed at what I would imagine is like the series fan at the season finale with rumor, more rumors, because there were rumors last season that he’s cheating. First episode, she seems very focused on Him finishing law school so they can get married. Meantime, Mia and TJ are saying that he went to Republic, and Joe said it. And couple of other girls. I can’t I’m trying to keep up with all these names that Emmy’s boyfriend will went to Republic, got drunk and was saying that since she’s gotten sober, she’s boring. He can’t stand her. They said that. He said things about her that awful things. Yeah, I find when they were at lunch at the beginning of the episode, I found Emmy’s energy very bizarre. She was very like, I am on this wavelength, then very high. I know she says she’s sober from drinking. Maybe she was like, on an edible, but she’s, I don’t know it looked, it looked more like a trepan somehow, I don’t know. I have to say she Yes, her it definitely there was something that seemed off. But she looked almost like a different person. And yes, her, she is drop dead, gorgeous drop dead when she was thin to start with. But something about how she’s leaned out with all this working out that she’s doing and all of that she looks she looks fantastic 100% you know what’s funny, what I was because I follow her on Instagram, she looks so different that a part of me, because, you know, so many people like Photoshop and everything, and she always looked good, but then to see it on TV, I’m like, wow. Like, she’s she always had a nice figure, but she’s ripped to five, but she said she works out three, four hours a day because she’s not drink. And I guess she’s channeling it into that. And, yeah, and she knows it’s weird, because she doesn’t want to talk about was, initially consider it was she struggling with her no and I drinking before.
I just think that she stopped for fitness reasons and or she just went on ozempic and doesn’t want to drink anymore, which is what happens to a lot of people, and just worked out a lot that’s possible. Yeah, I don’t like them. I don’t like them together. I think it’s really strange again. She’s one of those people who like getting married, getting the ring. It’s the be all end on. I’m like, the that just grosses me out. And he just seems a little slimy. He seems very uninterested with the marriage conversation. I do believe he went to Republic and said all of these things. Because why would that many people lie? We see in the first episode every.
One confirming he did this. And the other thing is, they’re all like, we told her that he did things last season, and she turned on all of us. So we’re not gonna tell her. We don’t want to get yelled at. And I can’t blame them. Yeah, like, back to Tom and Luann. They told her that he kissed the girl at the Regency, and then he when he was back kissing again, Carol’s What the hell are we gonna tell her for? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So
our exclusive, Amanda, we didn’t get page six. Did, which everybody, if there’s a timestamp on it, we posted it first because I had a cocktail who saw Joe leave luanne’s apartment, period. Dot. This is that’s so funny. This all becomes a thing, a storyline on the show, which, by the way, guys, you know, if we had reported it after Danielle and Joe had broken up and announced they were no longer together, there would be some more questions about the veracity of it, But we were real time posting, and I remember you and I talking, I’m like, what it was just so entertaining. And then, like, more details were coming out. And this whole thing, it was also entertaining because, to be clear, him and Danielle were hooking up. They were not in a long term relationship or anything. It wasn’t an exclusive thing. It was fucked up. Of Luan too, while Danielle was clearly on a date with him, swoop in, but they were not boyfriend girlfriend. They were dating. Oh, they would say, they said they were dating. I don’t know if they said they were exclusive, but what’s so funny, and this is where I just don’t really love Joey bottles, because Joey bottles tells TJ that it was true, and says, Please don’t say anything. And then at the reunion, says it wasn’t true. And then later on, a confessional says, even if it was true, TJ still shouldn’t have said anything. And it’s Joe,
I just it’s weird either it happened or it didn’t, and you’re you have your right to be mad at TJ for for sharing things that were supposed to stay private. I think he has every reason to be upset with him about that, but you’re all over the place too, Joey, so it’s really hard for me to feel very sympathetic to him. It’s not that I feel sympathetic to him, because I don’t, I just feel okay. If Joe was dating a girl in their friend group, I would absolutely be on TJ side. I’m kind of team. They’re both wrong, because Joe, if you’re gonna be dating somebody and being messy, it’s gonna get out there. But what Joe said was, cuz the in his confessional, the production said, like, why Page Six posted it. Bravo and cocktails posted it. They didn’t say that, but they should have. Why are you mad at TJ? And he said, Because TJ is my friend. They’re not, and I do get his point. Amanda, if me and you are on a reality show, which we wouldn’t be, but if we were no one calling, and I did something and Page Six picked it up. Is very different than you going on at the reunion and saying, Yeah, she did it. I know she did it. She told me she did it, yeah. But then again, we do like reality television, which is why I said at the beginning. I love TJ. He’s messy. He makes great TV, but I do see what Joe’s saying. I don’t want to be close with him, because, number one, I don’t think Joe really as much as he loves Maddie, and I really think he does. And by the way, we got a lot of messages at the beginning that their relationship was fake for the show. I don’t believe it. I hear they’re together every day, and it’s legit. Maybe it started off. All this would be good, but I think it’s real. Yeah, I agree. It does seem he’s very into her, but I don’t think monogamy is something he’s particularly skilled at. And so I think that he is also protecting himself. If I’m not good friends with CJ, I won’t tell him anything. Because the reason that Joe Bradley is going to give us great TV for years to come is because the guy doesn’t learn he is a little bit Stu not, and I don’t mean that he is low IQ, I just mean that he can’t help himself. Do you know what I mean? Yes, know how to curate an image he like. Yeah, he’s freaking out. Watch What Happens Live, flirting with Luanne while the girl he’s dating is in the audience and ends up banging Luanne after ditching the girl, and it’s too good to be true. You couldn’t make it up. You couldn’t write it. So I love Joe Bradley, but I get his point, because he’s I’m probably going to cheat on Maddie in his head. I’ll probably end up telling TJ if we’re friends, because I’m a student, not and I can’t not. So if I’m not friends with him, I can’t tell on myself, and he can’t tell on me.
Yeah, I that could be, I think that I more this. I wonder about people who are on reality shows, and there’s that saying about honor amongst thieves. Is there anything truly state grade, a?
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That’s the beauty of early seasons, because you find out who the people are, who will keep certain things and who won’t? Yeah, but you always, when you’re on a show, run the risk of being betrayed. As an example, Marisol and Alexia are on the outs right now, what I don’t know I posted that I heard they didn’t attend each other’s events. Somebody told me it was like production was behind it. But I think it may be something that was egged on by production that may have turned a little too real, if that makes sense. Yeah, we have a whole Alexia drama to get to as well, guys. This is like so much we got stuff for days, but I do that’s a great point. And I just think that’s part of reality TV is that’s also why friendships fall apart, right? Because you think somebody’s going to protect something, right and then they don’t, yeah, because where the true honor amongst thieves comes in is, do they do the right thing, even if it’s hard, even if they’re possibly losing their space in reality TV? Do they share something that they know will help them keep their role or not. That’s what it comes down to, and production knows that. And I think that’s where we have leaks, is people who intend to keep it a secret, but then are faced with the fact of, if you don’t do this for a storyline, we don’t need you. And I think the other system that really works is barter. I have stuff on you, Amanda, and you have stuff on me, and if I say your shit, you’re gonna say my shit. So neither of us say either shit, and the best is when someone portrays it, and then we portrays that, and then we get everybody’s shit, and then we get everybody’s shit. Can we talk? See, like with Tara and Shannon, they have so much shit on each other, and then one says one thing, and then one tells the other thing, and that’s why it’s great. And then they stupidly make up and confide in each other and text each other again. And then they have more shit. Yeah, exactly. We’ve seen it on jersey. Which can we talk about? Johnny Yes And okay, Jen Aiden publicly posts a video about what she perceived to be shitty service at Jersey. Mike’s in was that Newark Airport. I couldn’t tell Newark, whatever airport, which guys. I shouldn’t say this, but I don’t have as high of expectations of airport restaurants, because they get slammed by crowds. And I just I never have as high of expectations there, even though you’re paying usually twice as much as you would at a normal location. But that’s just zero expectation. Kiosk restaurants in a New York, okay, it’s New Jersey, but like it? Yeah, you could see New York when you’re landing in Newark. You can literally see the Statue of Liberty there. Yeah. Anyway, okay, she’s going off because apparently it took forever she added another sandwich late in the order. And okay, but the way it works. And just because we have to break this part down, yeah, most of you know this, but I’m gonna break it down even simpler. And the girl in the video, one of the workers, came out and made a video. It’s fantastic.
You order, and there’s a line behind you. So I go up, and I’m like, hi, I will have one turkey sandwich with cheese. I will have one roast beef sandwich with cheese. Yes, and then I pay. And then I’m done ordering. Okay? You follow the sandwich down the it’s the chipotle too, right? Same thing. You follow your food down the line. You say, Yes, I want onions. No, I don’t want pickles. They wrap the sandwich. You pay for it. No, you know, you pay for it at the top. Oh, you do. Oh, I’ve heard at the top. So now that’s the it. So now it’s not while you’re making my sandwich, I’m like, Hey, can you get me another six inch and just get me a tuna salad, and then you pay at the end. I’ve already paid. So for me to add, I have to go back to the register and start in an entirely new order, so you’re cutting in front of somebody else. Essentially exactly so, because she was and the worker came out and made a video, and in her own video, she didn’t do herself any favors, because she essentially explained the fact that she was expecting to just bypass an entire line. It’s 6am on New Year’s Day, or whatever time it was, it is one of the busiest travel days of the entire year. I also was traveling lots of frustration, but no one’s time is more important than another person’s time. So the first thing she did was post a video with her cousin where she says, and these Jersey Mike’s people were so rude and so slow, this woman had to be like 80, and it’s not my fault. She’s got to work at Jersey Mike’s on New Year’s Day. First of all, number one, the woman was not. Number two, it’s so 80. It’s so 80, it’s she’s fucking wicked person, man. Wicked is the only word I can think of. It is wicked. It is rotten. It is such a deeply unhappy, unsatisfied person that I don’t even have words for it. Help is needed. I just can’t even wrap my head around how somebody, not only thinks that, says it out loud and posts it as if people would agree with this the line of thought, listen, we have all been guilty of being in an airport and maybe being short, or someone bumping into you and being like, oh, and like something that not your best self, and you wouldn’t be proud of and you certainly wouldn’t video it and share it for your friends. Never mind all your followers. She’s a fucking psycho. I don’t care. I have no words. It was picked up everywhere. It has gone viral. I haven’t seen anybody agree with her. I haven’t seen anybody defend her. You have Danielle kabot reposting, like a quote saying yardary Her whole thing. Do you think just a question on that? Like, I never, I’ve never cared for her. I never agree, really, with any of her point of view. But did she leave this up? Do you think she’s I’m proud of my I’m stuck by what I did. She left it up the entire 24 hours. Yeah, wow. It was insane. She’s quiet now. Oh, and then she posted, she kept going. And then she posted, and by the way, Bill went to Shake Shack, and they were great, and he so he tipped them 20% okay, that’s the standard tip and whatever. There’s an argument there, because some people said to me, like, oh, 20% is a standard sit down tip. It’s New Year’s Day. It’s a busy place. Certainly you don’t have to tip 20 20% at a kiosk. It’s not the same as a table service. With that said, They’re such bowlers, why wouldn’t bill if you’re an average person or whatever, but if you’re so rich and screaming, my diamonds are real. Where’s her lounge access? Does she not spend enough on her American Express. Seriously, good.
Yeah, I can’t with her. I’m really happy that, for the most part, we don’t have to see her
unless she does something shitty like this. She’ll never be back on housewives, whatever they decide. I was told she’s out. Do we think so this is the only thing. Do we think she’s making an attempt at traitors or villains like by keeping these videos up? Does she think that somebody somewhere is gonna go, oh, she’d be good for villains because she’s too low brow for traitors. Could be, yeah, I don’t see her being on traitors, but yeah, maybe. Maybe because she’s just like any I actually believe that she believes her own bullshit and doesn’t think that she’s being a villain. In this case, hard to say. It’s so hard to write, and everyone’s What does her husband think? It’s? What does he think he’s married to her for? How long he’s got five kids? He’s there? Where’s he going? What her kids think? Sadly, her kids are either mortified or they think it’s normal because they were raised around it. I was gonna say they’re probably watching her do this, and they probably that’s how kids learn this stuff, like how to that’s how they learn how they treat people in service. Is from watching what their parents do. And she is an evil Karen, it is. And then her cousin there just agreeing with her, because what are you gonna do? Yeah, yeah. Did you get a chance to watch the traders. I have not gotten to watch the trailer yet. Oh, I watched it last night. It was so good. I’m so I’m so excited. We’re only like a few days away. We’re like a week away from getting to watch it. Where are we away? The ninth. It was so good. You have delora, you have first you have Nikki.
Ella and Chris shell, seeing Sandoval get out of the car and going, oh god, that’s Tom Sandoval. Let’s not say hi to him, which was just great. Two Netflix or Netflix and an E stars no no relation to Bravo. But just don’t want anything to do with him. Just they’re just like us. Then you have Dorinda, who like, I know she wasn’t, but she seemed like in Dorinda mode, going over to Robin and being like, housewives, hello, like whatever she said, the cast is great. Then you have two people from Big Brother, which I’ve never watched Big Brother, but the girl is, oh, my God, if she wants to take me out, it’s the perfect opportunity, because they’re all standing there with these masked, like dozens of masked people in like black, long coats. And and then all those people leave, and one remains. And Alan Cummings goes, Okay, guys, this person really wants to join traders. If you come shake my shake his hand, he’ll join. And then you have to immediately send someone home. And so the big brother girl goes, Oh God, this is her opportunity if she wants to get rid of me. And the guy takes his hat off. I did not recognize him. A man stocky. I didn’t recognize him. Must be a survivor, a big brother or something. Yeah, I would imagine it’s somebody that’s like, good at the game, or they’d be some the cocktails were talking about it on Discord already, and one of them was like, I know who it is. I’m not gonna say, I’m not gonna post on Discord, because I don’t want to spoil it. So she’s me, so she knew who it was. I yeah, I haven’t gotten to see the trailer yet, so I and then so the trailer ends. I am jazzed. Yeah, I can’t wait. I love watching it with my daughter, too. It’s I do so far, watch the trailer, so you have to watch that with her. I will cocktail is. I know this was a little bit of a chaotic episode, but we are in mourning, and I hope I didn’t, I hope I didn’t respond to the cocktails comment. I totally appreciate your point of view. I don’t want to say your name. I understand what you mean, because I favor them so much, it would appear. But there isn’t a scoop, there isn’t a scandal, yeah, and I want to be wrong, and I really hope that there isn’t a scandal, and that I’m not sent it, but guys, if there is, I’m gonna post it. Yeah, I owe that to the community. And guys, if there was stuff going on and we knew something which we don’t, then other people would be told to and other people would be talking about it, and nobody is, and that’s it’s not because everybody is protesting same way. Page Six is usually a couple hours or days behind us, they would be with this, and there just isn’t an IT, yeah, do want someone had a sighting of her out on New Year’s Eve? Okay? Craig was out on New Year’s Eve too. Yeah? Like she’s not going to sit in her house. There’s they’re single, they’re broken up, and they’re navigating their breakup, and in a few months, they’re both going to be dating, and that’s going to be her for both of them. Let’s face it, it’s not an easy thing. Yeah, we love you guys. Thank you for listening to us rant and Happy New Year. Here is to an amazing 2025
with you guys. And let’s not be on the ride with us. It’s been a wild few years. Let’s just slowly walk into this one. Amanda, okay, good point. Don’t make too much noise. Just to slowly ease in. I’m still writing 2024 when I write anything out, I’m good, Happy New Year’s. Anyway, guys, I think it’s, I think it’s gonna be good.
Maybe I’m delusional till next time. Guys, bye.