90. Love Triangle Chaos: Joey Bottles/Luann/Danielle; Why ARE Kyle and Dorit on such bad terms? Miami love note

The love triangle we didn’t realize we all needed – Joey Bottles, Luann and Danielle. LOL. B’s got the tea, and Amanda is out of town, so she’s hearing it for the first time. Get the exclusive details here. Alexis posted a hilariously cringey slide show. Kyle and Mauricio continue to be the ringleaders in this crazy media circus. Why are Dorit and Kyle on such bad terms, anyway? And we have a little love note for why we love Miami – plus some tea on casting for next season.

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What’s up car Taylor’s and Amanda. Hi Fi hifi Hi COC tailors. So guys, a B knows this. But I am just on a little quick weekend trip to Mexico right now. And so Bill and I were just chatting before we hopped on because I haven’t been on Instagram because of travel and then just like chilling. So and like there’s just some stuff that I haven’t quite caught on. So I’m going to be like a good audience. I think for any tea that’s come in over like the last day or so.
So how’s your week going be? Oh, my God. Amanda, while you’re in Mexico, I’m feeling the drama over here. Okay. I Amanda does not even know about this, guys. So those of you who are in cocktail party, or this is Thursday afternoon, you’re reading it as we speak. So first, we got an email. Okay. And you probably saw the email it was about was called he’s a user. It was basically
sounding like Joe Bradley is using Danielle says, Isn’t it obvious he’s using her he’s just taking it slow to stay relevant. He’s taking it just slow enough to stay relevant and get casted on crossover shows. Maybe she’s happy for the double exposure to as she’s hung her hat on reality television as a career. But I live in Charleston and I can tell you it’s convenient for him not true love. He’s still flirty and hooking up around town. Not earth shattering right like kinda like, whatever. Charleston, Charleston fuck, boy, what a shock. We have discussed whether this is possibly going on to so okay, not shocking. And it’s like not a slam to Danielle at all. It’s more about him. And the fact that we kept hearing that like he really wants fame and to be in reality television. And I definitely think like we know that Larry said on our zoom call. We had a great zoom call this week. And Bravo by gage joined us and he said that like when he was at because he went to the southern hospitality premiere party. He said that Joe was like very into denial. There’s a difference between like when someone’s there being very into them and like it being a thing that’s going to last. Well I do think with that email
The slam to Danielle to me is like this. She’s chosen reality TV as a career. She did just launch that app but
well, but that is where is it? It’s actually not launched. She had a party. There’s an Instagram like a year ago or months ago she had it and yet like, the app is not live like you can’t. I don’t even know how it’s pronounced dawn or dawn. d o n n e or something done some fashion app. I think you’d like your wardrobe or put like it’s not live. Okay. Like kind of like from clueless where she’s like, the shirt and like the pants and the little app like is it like that? Yes, that’s how I’m picturing it. Okay, and we normally don’t record with camera, but I want you to keep your camera on because Hold on, you have no idea where this is going. Like this is about where you’re about to get, like railroaded. Like, switch windows here. Wait, we hold that.
Right. So we go okay, so we get that email and I’m like, whatever, post it
and then I see this little Us Weekly article and apparently I guess they filmed a Watch What Happens Live ahead of time, and the article says LuAnn de la saps and southern hospitality is Joe Bradley. We’re all over each other after Watch What Happens Live appearance.
So apparently, they went to a bar or something after and they were like, again. Alright, so you’re flirting. You’re flirting. Amanda,
within two minutes of me reposting that. I get a source who knows? The people okay. And they say Joe woke up in Lewin’s apartment after Watch What Happens Live. It was not just flirting after Watch What Happens Live? They have been drinking heavily. He slept at her apartment in capitals
when he got better Oh, so then Joe Bradley post some story which he took down let me see if he put it back up. That says something. He took it down. It said something like we were in so he posted a picture of him and Louis so Page Six picked it up and had a picture of them and he wrote We were with a big group of people at the hotel bar after Watch What Happens Live didn’t yell was there to nothing happened. Please move on. Here’s the thing.
Danielle has an apartment in New York to yet here’s the thing. Danielle posted a video or picture with him like prior to it because she posted like he was going in for hair and makeup. And then she posted like a jar of Nutella and then nothing. There is no picture circulating. With them all out. Now
he took that story down. So then Danielle posted in what world just to her Insta story just that In what world? That’s all she wrote. So
if Danielle wasn’t with them,
she obviously see I’ll show you my camera. It’s just as mo world if Danielle wasn’t with them. She obviously knows whether or not he came back to her apartment.
Like, in other words, he’s if he didn’t sleep at Danielle’s apartment, she’s got to be suspicious. Now, publicly, she might not want to like be like Buck Hambo. But she might want to like play it off. So let’s see how it progresses. Let’s see if I mean obviously he’s probably denying it to her. He may be like, we just got wasted and I just passed out of my hotel.
Maybe he’s even like, I just got wasted and passed out at Louisiana Department. Nothing happened.
I wonder if they if Danielle was with them, there are pictures of them out because these reality stars are constantly taking selfies and everything else. None of them have posted a picture other people like fans would have been like, oh, look, here’s a picture of them out together to like not just them like other people would have taken pictures too. Yes. Okay. What are cocktail are saying in the comments. Oh, God, people are saying they can’t log in right now. I felt any Irish this site only fit. Okay. All right. Well, no, I don’t think so. I were okay. Okay. Well, I’ll get to that when we get off. So people are just like, Oh, my God. Well, people are also confused, Amanda because they’re like, Wait, he posted this story saying that Danielle was with them. I’m like, okay, pictures or it didn’t happen.
You know what I’m saying? Like, if she was with them pictures, or it didn’t happen. I mean, there could be a situation where he didn’t just pass out at Louisiana.
For sure, but yeah, I’m sure. And if they were Yeah, I don’t know how to react to this. It isn’t like first of all, it’s like good for you. And then like that’s kind of shitty if this
didn’t happen and like, Danielle and Joe are really like, well, apparently he just did an interview saying that they’re not exclusive. It’s very different to not be exclusive than to publicly hook up with another Bravo celebrity LuAnn de la saps. This is all a legend. We don’t know anything. All we know is they were on Watch What Happens Live, it was probably an advanced taping because not we haven’t seen it yet. We know they went to a bar at a hotel after and we’re drinking heavily and people interpreted it as flirty. And I have a source telling me that he woke up in her apartment. That’s all we know. I mean, here’s the other thing, like does any of this sound like it absolutely could not have happened? No. I’m surprised it took so long to I’m surprised it took a full day to get to our desk.
I mean, wow. This is unlike in Lewin’s defense, she doesn’t know she does. I doubt she knows that. He’s been hooking up with Danielle from summer house. How would she even know that she might not even know Danielle? I mean, not that that really matters, too. But like, because if she knew that he was Yeah. Oh, I mean, watch what happens. She he’s, yeah, I to just stay away from the gossip and it’s asleep, naturally to full day. All day. I just want to know
if Danielle was there, and they were all hanging out. Where’s the photo? Because you and I both know that Danielle will get a photo with Luann. She would? Yes. And that mean, there would be many photos. There wouldn’t be fan photos, there would be their photo, like, of course, and they would have been posted. Yeah. Hmm. Well, very interesting. And also, then there’s always the possibility that yeah, Danielle was with them.
But then, like, went home, and he stayed out. Because there were other people that like, you know what I’m saying? There are a lot of different ways this could go. We all know that. There have been times where you go out guy you’re seeing or whatever it is, and you’re hanging out and you’re like, um, shot me back at the apartment.
So that could be his way to get out of it and just be like, Oh my god, I was so wasted. I just crashed at the hotel.
I don’t think he’s telling her I crashed with Luann Atlanta apartment because like, how are you? Guys aren’t friends like you just met watching this live?
This in the four years?
I just can’t hear it. And they don’t know when you’re like, just wait, I have some stuff for you. Like, this is not like where the gossip bingo card would have gotten
it where you inadequate expecting it to be that Luann hooked up with someone from southern hospitality who is casually dating someone from summer house like and first of all, if this happens, like it’s all gonna like there’s no good coming out of it. Like it’s
you’re able to back this train up or we’re all we want the pictures of like, hey, waking up at Danielle’s sporting if Yeah, yeah, come on. And where there’s smoke, where there’s smoke, obviously. And I mean, I think probably why they’re scrambling is probably not even because of like, the hookup or the, like prime shore Daniels, like piss, but like, they’re probably like, Wait, we had this plan, where we were going to be a crossover couple. And you are gonna get to do a thing on you know, on summer house and I you know, and like, this is all fucked up.
Because I got drunk and Vox, the Calvinists.
Sorry, Joe, I don’t think there’ll be a crossover for you on so yeah, and Luann crappy Lake. Oh, Joey bottles.
I mean,
mean, this was what like, if I were to yell, I would want to like poopoo it away to like, I would not want to, like publicly come out on the heels of the whole winter house thing and my breakup
come out and be like, oh, yeah, we were seeing each other but he got drunk and fooled around with a roadie housewife. And now we’re not together. Yeah, no, but like, we’re gonna see if they’re still together or like, do they try to make it work? And do they talk about it? And is he like, listen, we’re not exclusive. I got drunk. We made out it wasn’t a big deal. Like, forgive me. And she like, fine cuz we got to do our crossover situation. And yeah, I mean, whatever hazard he like comes over, like all hungover, like with a bagel and coffee and like sunglasses and like a beanie hat. And it’s like
everything is pre winter house. I think that maybe we would have looked at it and been like, you know what maybe Danielle’s? like listen, we’re not exclusive. Like it’s not this isn’t a huge deal. But like after seeing how she was with Alex, I feel like she clearly is the girl who’s like gonna let this slide I see
There’s some people who are like totally cool Academy dating, and there’s some people who are not, which I understand, like, I’ve never been somebody who like was like, it just feels like a lot of work to date a lot of people the same time, like, doesn’t interest me I’d rather and like, especially if you’re like not so sure if you’re interested in people like why even take the time like, I get that like I identify more with that. So I understand that like, and I don’t think that she really can do casual either. So which is fine. Yeah, it’s totally fine. But like, wow,
not really. I mean, I don’t know it going for somebody who’s in club life. And on reality TV is probably not
the greatest option if you’re not a casual dater, but you know, right. And like, so I’m sure your eyes are wide open. You know, he lives in Charleston, you know, he works in the nightlife scene. So maybe like she wouldn’t be shocked by the blind that we got. Or maybe she wouldn’t be shocked that she found out that one night at the, you know, bar he works at, he hooked up with somebody. But I’m willing to venture a guess that she wasn’t expecting him to go to watch what happens live and sleep at Luann Davis Epps house. Was he on it? Was he just in the audience? I don’t even know. Was he a boy? I honestly I don’t I’m assuming he was on it. And I don’t know. And if he was on it, why wasn’t she Danielle in the audience? And was she in the audience? And did they go out after and then did she peace out because she had some meeting this morning? And
he stayed and
I don’t I mean, the truth will come allegedly. I like a lot let’s all you know
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Listen, Joe wants fame and he’s getting attention right now. So this may be working out exactly how he wants it. He sure is like as I’d say like any kind of news, good news or bad news is still like it’s still publicity, you know? So stay tuned, guys. We’re on it. And you heard here first.
I really did.
Oh my gosh. Okay, so let’s talk Salt Lake City because the last reunion was on the other nights we heard confirmed that Monica will not be back next season, which I think is really interesting because he was told by a source immediately following the announcement that Monica is saying she’s not in but that doesn’t mean she’s completely out. And then Andy because I watched I watched Salt Lake City and then I watch watch watch what happens live right after and Andy did i This perked up my ears to that he referred to it as taking a break when talking with Heather about her being back about Monica being back on the show.
I mean, so
What I was told, okay, when the article came out that she wasn’t being asked back, a source reached out to me. And they were like, look at the wording. And this was prior to Andy because that I watch what happens live. And Andy very clearly said she’s taking a break from Salt Lake City. So
they said,
there’s always the option. This is what the source told me, there’s always the option to bring her are on if filming is flopping.
If the new ladies aren’t bringing it, she has that opening with Mary. So like my opinion, time changes things. And I do think that when Monica said the casting knew, I think that was what made them be like, You know what, we’re starting filming without her. What do you think? Do you think that that was like the it? I think if it wasn’t the nail in the coffin, it was a nail in the coffin and that with all of the like, ladies being so adamant that they don’t want to film with her, and then like Bravo coming off of what we have heard was a mess of a New Jersey season where half the cast won’t film with the other half. And like, I think that it was probably multiple things, but then her calling out production like that was a big part of it.
I mean, but then he also went in on Heather, because as Heather was trying to defend, you know, Jen Shah about the punch, he pointed out like, in the process, you put production in a position where they could have been fired. So I think that Andy, and Bravo is very angry at Heather for that. But she’s gotten so viral. I mean, Congress was quoting Salt Lake City. So like, they really don’t have a choice but to bring her back. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I never thought about that like that. They would be pissed at Heather for saying that. Or maybe it was it. I didn’t realize how there had been the one behind that possible angle of why the black guy was covered up. I guess maybe I thought that was added on the book tour. Oh, yeah. Like, I don’t think I knew. Yeah. So like, I mean, I don’t. I think he very, I mean, they’re very publicly gave her, you know, a slap on the wrist. And a little bit of a dirty look. Be like, Yes, I can do it again. Yeah. So I think Heather has learned her lesson. You know, watching that, watching, just watching the finale watching that, watch what happens live? Like, it really struck me how much more than ever. There’s been so much talk about
everything going on outside of filming as well.
It’s, I don’t know. It’s just interesting. And then like, when Heather was saying and watch what happens I was like, Are the reunion I don’t know. I watched them both in a row. And so I can’t quite remember which was which. But when she’s like, I we know, Meredith and Whitney. And you know, now Angie, like we’re all really friends. And we’re really looking forward to filming together. It didn’t ring true to me. It felt like almost like
we have decided to make this pact that this is the way we are approaching this because we are really going to make the show we want to make the show happen.
It totally. And I think that I think what it comes down to is Bravo’s pissed about Monica saying casting new. I think Monica storyline is basically done. The ladies don’t want to film with her. Ultimately, though, these ladies will have to do what production and the network say. So I think it’s like, you know what, let’s start with that. Monica, let’s get a couple of new ladies in there. I posted a couple of the women. I also got an email I haven’t posted yet that one of Meredith friends is good. We’re gonna see her that she’s not dramatic. But she’s got a really good sense of humor, so she could be good for the show. I think they’re going to try to forge ahead without Monica. I also think it works to start filming without Monica because they can pacify the ladies. And once they start filming without her, they could say to them, Listen, this sucks. Do you want to show that’s going to get good ratings and continue or do you want to be cancelled? Because if you wanted to show we’re bringing Monica back. You know what I’m saying?
You know, if it’s a snooze, they’re gonna do what they have to do. Yeah, so I think with Monica is like there’s so many things. Yes, were those were those last episodes interesting and everything. Yes. But she contradicts herself. So she says that casting and production new. But another time and I forget exactly when she said that she was taking it to the grave that she was the one behind reality grantees. So which is it?
Did you tell her everything upfront? Or were you taking it to the grave? Right? Well, I think she said we were all gonna take it to the grave, meaning the people behind that account. But then you told casting like, hi, yeah. Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know. And she, yeah, she I just don’t believe anything. She says like that. That’s why I’m like, I’m kind of over watching her because now I believe that she will do whatever she can to be on TV and will never always, you know, will never tell the truth or lie whenever it’s convenient. And to me, that’s just not somebody. Like just like Jen like, that’s why we got tired of talking about junk. So it’s like, no, she clearly will just do anything for her own gain, and has no loyalty and like, will lie whenever and isn’t like, that’s just not a fun person to watch. I don’t think once we figure that out about her, so agreed on both but here’s the thing. We had Salt Lake City, and we had the whole Jen Schaaf craziness.
And then we had this Monica craziness and like how do they keep the audience’s attention? If there are no more gimmicks and there are no more like
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Well, this brings back me back to the what we were talking about. I think it was last week when we were talking about like, how is the future of housewives gonna go like is the expectation you know, all these reality shows? Like, there needs to be a scan of all there needs to be a Bermuda reveal and a meeting on the beach and receipts proof timeline screenshots? Like, does that need to be every season? Or remember back in the day where it was? Yes. Can we not laugh at the family ban? Yes. And like, Oh, are you doing coke in the bathroom? And like, just, I don’t know, your run of the mill affair. We’re
just me and my husband are getting a divorce. Just I’m trying to put my kid in acting. Yeah. But I can do it via a pump in and Kyle driving a sports car through the roads of Tuscany. Like that was fun to watch. You know, like it doesn’t all have to be scandals revealed. I do think that some cities can get away with less high stakes drama.
And I just think it’s when the audience clicks with the cast. But I also think there’s an element to Salt Lake City that we’re conditioned to expect this. anything’s going to be boring. Jen Shah went to jail. And then you had this crazy troll account. And so it’s like, how are we now just gonna watch? Whitney hawks and skin cream like, can we go back down? Right, because season one, Jen was always crazy, but we didn’t have like the big scandal and they did engage us but like, can we go back to that? Yeah, I don’t know. I think we need somebody who is incredibly dynamic. We need to see more of Heather gays.
Sense of humor because I think she’s funny. I would like to hear about this. You know, see from this friend of Meredith, who’s also very
cuz, like I look at I think of like Gen Fessler when she came on to New Jersey, like, yes, there was some stuff that she definitely did there was over the top, but like so funny and fun to watch, right? And like that can mean that can really make up a lot of ground. Or somebody who has a real dynamic personality and who really has a lot going on. So yes, I think it’s possible. I think casting has a really frickin hard job. And like, it sounds like I mean, they’re filming like next month so Yeah.
Should be interesting. There’s always Mary.
Andy is like, he loves her. You can see it other union and then she fire up the and he brought it up again. Like, watch what he reminds me it was always gimmicky because season one was about Mary being married to her step grandfather and running a church called and smelling like hospital, spelling, or no saying that Jen smelled like hospital. And like at the time, we thought the Gen had real wealth and like there was Yeah. Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know. Okay, so before we move off the subject, are you tired of the black eye? Search?
I am and there are no answers. We heard there was, quote, unquote, skiing involved. Lots of partying. There’s more to the story. Like it’s not adding up. Yes, I’m sick of it. I’m sick of anything pertaining to Jen Shah. And I want to move on.
So I guess we’re gonna see how it shakes out. I, my hope is that the new women that they’re filming are interesting. And we get good storyline and we get the content and things we want to watch. And they don’t feel like dragging Monica back into it. Because I think Monica can be great on a trader’s on a, you know, villains?
Yeah, I don’t want to see her on housewives. I don’t think there’s any way to integrate her into this cast and make it authentic. No, it’s always going to be like, like the way that Danielle Stob nobody really wanted her there after that first season. And then like Theresa tried to bring her back. You can’t reintegrate somebody who’s been black listed? Yeah. I agree. Like Mary wasn’t blacklisted. Yes. She was weird. Yeah. People had issues. But she wasn’t blacklisted. Right. Monica is blacklisted. You cannot organically integrate her now. Yeah. So on the black guy story, I will say I’m glad that we’ve got to hear a little bit more about what really happened. Yeah, we don’t have final answers. But what I will say I found to be very interesting about this whole situation is that it for the first time exposed a situation to all of us, that we had always maybe thought was going on, but was never really confirmed, which is that they were all scared shitless of John. And like that they were scared of retaliation, which is I think the exact words that Heather used, and that when Andy asked the union like with all of the other snowflakes, you know, do you guys, now that you know what happened? Do you understand why Heather did what she did? And they every one of them said yes. And then on Watch What Happens Live after or when the viewers are pulled. 70% of people said they agreed why that she did why she did which I understand why she did what she did to because I think she was
I think she was scared. And I think that was what was interesting to me is that we finally got to hear from them that like, yeah, not only did they think that she was that Jen
was a crook and whatever, but that they were frightened that Yeah, try to do something to them. So I mean, can you blame them? At the end of the day? These are regular people filming their lives, right? Yeah, they were very closely tied to her. And
I don’t think any of them believe she was innocent. But who wants to call somebody out? Even Meredith who was fighting with her about something else prior was like, You know what, let me just make things copacetic. Because you don’t want somebody who’s capable of doing what she did to come for you. Right, period. I mean, it’s as clear as day I wouldn’t it? I have no doubt if Jen flipped out like she did on the designer that there were a lot of private conversations where there were either explicit or implicit threads, about talking about anything, so you know, and like she made. Yeah, anyway, I thought that was really interesting. I believe Heather, actually that she was that she was nervous and worried and because even if there was a time where Heather felt like Jen might have truly been innocent. She also knew that Jen was
is not somebody to fuck with. Right? And so like,
I don’t know, like, I get it, I totally get it. So I appreciated that they kind of brought that to light. Let’s, I think we should move on and let’s talk about Beverly Hills because we haven’t in a couple of weeks and I feel like we have to Yeah. And like there’s been a lot going on outside of the actual show, too. So I want to start with that. Because in, you know, the continuing punking of problems like housewife or Bravo fans, Kyle goes out in public wearing a jacket that says T Romanski on it. And also went on Jeff Lewis live where she pretty much just said and is so many words, she and ratio are not getting divorce, and that it’s not because of money that she would get have. Because mo came into the marriage with nothing. And then she said that she does not want to divorce him and that like, you know, everything has been like kind of a positive thing. And then hours later, Morgan Wade wipes her Instagram down to like just a couple of pictures and it just says it’s a sweatshirt that says I’m not okay. But like everything else is gone, which is quite strange. And then I guess the source told us that it’s actually her like, they’re like personal trainers merge. Yeah, she was this was an ad for the trainer.
I mean, they are causing an absolute social media circus.
The
paparazzi happens to get her in a jacket that says teen Umansky on the heels of selling, whatever his Bravo real estate show is on Netflix. And she’s on Jeff Lewis, right on the heels of his Netflix coming out saying that, yes, they she films with him on that show. And Morgan happens to also be promoting hours after Kyle went on and said that they’re not getting a divorce, they’re figuring it out and yada yada yada happens to wipe her Instagram, post a sweatshirt of merch that happens to say I’m not okay.
Listen, are they laughing all the way to the bank? Perhaps? Are they figuring it out? And sort of saying let’s not get divorced?
Like, but I could date you could date? does that become complicated? I would imagine after 27 years of what we assumed was a monogamous
marriage in theory. I mean, we’re supposed to be a monogamous marriage.
I think the world is different. I think they’re in Hollywood, and they’re public. And Kyle has evolved so much that nothing is out of the question, in my estimation.
And maybe this is just my little narrow viewpoint of the world here. But don’t get like I could get, like keeping in a marriage of convenience, where they’re like, you see other people I see other people. We don’t sleep together anymore. Right? Right. I get less this like open marriage idea. Because I think there it I just can’t even imagine like the amount of jealousy and stuff that would be there. And then honestly, just being super practical, like worrying about STDs.
How do you do that? In a relationship like that? I don’t get that. Right. Like I don’t. And also like,
how are you finding other people who want to go along with this arrangement? Yeah. You know what I’m saying at some point, and then you run the risk of which I think and I know we’ve spoke about it before, like Dr. Drew, I once heard him and he basically said like, it never works out like open marriages never work because at some point, what happens when one person in the marriage gets real feelings and really wants to go be with the other person and it just never works out? I think it’s good in I don’t think it’s good in theory, but I think it’s a band aid that maybe people use, because they don’t want to break the family unit up or whatever. But I don’t see Kyle being able to I mean, we have 13 years of footage showing how possessive she was of her husband and rightfully so the kid out I mean, how do you go from that to that you spent after investing billions to light up our network. T Mobile is America’s largest five
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So like, in my head, I’m thinking through this right, and if this is all just to just totally fuck with us, right? And Kyle is with Morgan for example. Like,
at what point is this? Jigga. Right, like at what point because like, she has for years been like, Look, I’ve opened up my life. I’ve opened up my family, I’ve shown you everything. Now like I’m like, Well, clearly you’re not showing us every thing anymore. And like how much longer are all of us fans? Gonna put up with it? Before we’re all like we’re not.
You know, like, it’s yeah, this has been going on since July, June, July of last year, at least. I mean, we started seeing the Morgan pictures.
And you know, questioning that a lot before that, but they announced there and there was so much to tween that there was him dating the Dancing with the Stars. There was that woman that actress who he was out to dinner with his parents. Yeah, there was and so now we’re we’re about to film the reunion and she goes on Jeff Lewis and it’s back to we’re not getting divorced and we’re working on it while they were six months if you do all fucking around.
Which I mean in a topless in Aspen with a Anita and like all of that we’re just that’s all out the window and we’re back to working on it is what it looks like. Did you hear what Erika Jane said? Did you see what she said on watch? What Happens Live? That like she had been Erica Jane is like, you know, yours like I was eviscerated. Essentially, that like why isn’t this happening to Kyle?
Yep. Oh, yeah. I can’t imagine that one’s gonna go very well. You know, well, what about Kyle’s treatment of Dury?
Not only on the show, but also what she’s saying about her in interviews and podcasts. She said in an interview that it was an Amazon live or something she was like terete is making us out to be much closer friends than we were we vacation together once as couples all the other times was for filming.
Last season we had those two written Maria rumors which I never believed, but did like that bother Kyle? Just the fact like Does she want to distance herself from her? Just you know what I mean? Because she didn’t like that Not saying that it happened.
But she’s for sure turned on juries and vice versa because we had that cocktail or that was at the Boy George what was it Peter Pan that Tony was in? And PK said to the crowd Oh, Kyle’s a lesbian now.
Like what happened there something that because I will say like I have been following them both for a long time. And
I don’t think Kyle is being truthful when she’s saying that because I’ve seen posted on both of their socials. So not just two reads Right? Like, because there could be a situation or injury. It’s trying to make things look bigger than they are right. But like No, both of them posted from multiple trips, looked like put a meathead to me like to have them like one was a fate like all the kids were there. More than one I feel like I mean, I can think of I think at least two or three trips, just to Mexico alone. That they went on together and that they posted about so like, why is Kyle not being truthful about that? That is weird to me.
sassing something Yeah, weird with them? Yep. I just, I don’t know what the it is.
But we got the email. Do you want to read that email? Did we read this email? I don’t think we did.
I don’t think so. The one the lack of thrills on? Yes. Okay. I’ll read it. So Beverly, lack of thrills is who it’s from subjects shake up in the hills slash revamp. Producers of Beverly Hills have been working on finding new women since last fall to replace some of the current lineup. They want to get back to wealth and opulence like it used to give the few names I’ve been told her amazing and would fit right in to read and crystal will not be returning along with Anne Marie. Expect another demotion as well. So I think Kyle has pulled I think we all think Kyle has mole. I think Kyle wants to read out.
First, she shading her on Teddy’s podcast. Then she went on Jeff Lewis, then Jeff Lewis went off on the read. And later, you know, obviously, Jeff and Kyle are friendly. She was just on his pod. Then there’s Kai then there’s Anne Marie, what do they call her? Anna Marie? I don’t know. I thought it was people keep asking me like, I don’t know, Anna Marie and Marie, whatever her name is. I mean, she’s clearly that rum emerald, like memorable. You know, wrote no one can get her name. Right. Right. So
she was shady towards Dory. So it seems to me like Kyle is pulling some strings behind the scenes,
with jury shading her, but keeping her hands clean, very LVP.
But I guess it’s the why she wants her out that we just don’t know. Well, yeah. And like back to my earlier point, she is not being truthful about these trips, which is strange to me, because they publicly posted about it. So that to me is the biggest red flag because like, why wouldn’t you just say like, Yeah, we went on some trips, but we’ve grown apart. Easy and and totally. And I think that jury and PK, you know, everyone’s saying they split. They have not they’re maintaining the united front. I do think that that’s their hope for another season. But I think if Kyle has the pole that we assume she has, the writing’s on the wall that Kyle doesn’t want her back. So I do believe that maybe to reach out crystal However, what if they want wealth? Why are they letting crystal go? She is wealth. She is Hollywood. And second half of the season. She’s bringing it? Yeah. I don’t think we can so easily discount they want to call her boring. I don’t really see it as boring. I see her and I like her. And this isn’t a hit to her, but she has like an uppity snobbish way about her. Like, I agree with Erica. I don’t think that Ann Marie’s comments came from nowhere. I think years ago, they did a flashback last night of her saying something like, you know, these women aren’t like the most educated. They all had issues with her saying things when she was first on so I don’t think Ann Marie’s saying it exactly how she said it. But I think she did make a comment, like, well, you know, I’m on this show. But these aren’t my kind of women. You know, they’re very shallow. They’re not like, you know, they’re not like high brow. Yeah, I think she said something like that. Yeah. And I think they all know she said something like that. And I do think what Sutton was saying was kind of like, I get the crystal trying to deny it.
But I think that it’s hard when you’re filming a show, but what they have to say is like we’ve moved past that and we’ve actually do have some like, like sudden and Crystal enjoy each other now, which I think it’s interesting that crystal enjoys Sutton is really wealthy Sutton does really have connections. I think that you know, Crystal feels Kyle is worthy of her. I think Crystal thinks that Eric is trash. I think crystals cool with Garcelle because Garcelle is real Hollywood. So I to think that crystal has her standards for who she wants in. I don’t think to reach there. I don’t think she I think she sees to read as a food Daisy. You know what I say? Forgive you a fake. Oh, yeah. Oh, god. Is this like the student ad you never heard of for Daisy? I mean, I’ve heard her but I never knew what it meant.
You know, like, and then you have to recall her child bride in the previews. And so last night Crystal I think I guess it was our anniversary or maybe she was just posted a wedding picture because she was called a child bride. She said some rules of having a happy marriage don’t borrow your wife necklaces by them. And then somebody commented and said also number one Don’t get yourself into insurmountable debt and Crystal wrote that’s definitely number one. Stay out of debt. So she’s coming for durian PK. She’s like, do you You’re that you don’t have money. I’m like, really like my husband’s a Disney producer, whatever he is. Yeah. Producer or writer or director or whatever. Yeah.
on. So I do think that crystal is like, not going to just hang out with me like iPad. I’m just a regular girl she wants to hang out with real Hollywood because she does and she can and and circle. Yeah, but why is Beverly Hills cutting her and her husband and the access they have to real Hollywood? I don’t buy it. I think if she leaves it’s on her own accord. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, especially knowing that this is, you know, they kind of want to go back to the opulence and stuff which I love that I’m I’m all for it. I don’t know. I think crystal has been using her voice more and I think that’s been really interesting. I think her maybe people are confusing stability with boring you know, like she’s in you know, she’s in a good marriage. She’s wealthy. Her you know, nobody in our feet like she’s not going to jail she’s not stealing she’s not defrauding she’s not getting divorce right but that right I mean she’s boring. So right I think once again like back to what we keep talking about like we don’t have to have these like crazy you know, no revealed moments in order to have an interesting season so I don’t know I enjoy crystal I realize you to write Sutton’s had some like crazy moments this season. Sutton’s a good housewife, and it’s something that I think
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she’s insufferable. We actually had shout out to our girl IG famous by Dana. She does very fun tea time, which is just like painless ended. Yeah, you guys. I’m sure you follow her. She’s great. And somebody wrote in that they like worked with Anne Marie and she was awful and rude and thought who she was and
yeah, gross. Yeah. Which by the way, guys, you should follow IG famous by Dana because she also like talks a lot about plastic surgery. Like, like beauty treatment. Like I love her account. Yes. Okay, let’s move on to OC because, like, there are some stuff that like I have been kind of just giggling and chuckling about with Alexis on social media. And then you posted a picture of her filming with Heather and Emily from OC
Will you giggling about this weekend when we were flooded with pictures of her and Johnny J on a Lexuses? I guess it was her birthday and she was praising him and their love. She found that forever. Okay, this is what I think is so funny about those pictures Okay, so she posted this long slideshow right? But the slideshow is all like take it in the same location and with different variables of like the same six people so like,
and it’s like, the whole way that he was like trying to show this like long like like love, like this long love story carousel, but it only two
Experience from one, eight.
Well, I mean, I told you but five minutes.
Oh, no, it just like I just, this is one of the things like sometimes, you know, you just get amused based off like on your own. You’re like, I wish like somebody was sitting here next to me who knows what I know that I could like and I think it was like late enough at night that I wasn’t gonna text you about it, like just giggling. So like, Oh, there’s one from inside the hotel room. Oh, there’s one from the balcony there. And it was just this basic ask double bed standard room. I mean, that was the best part is like, there was not a there was not a Jacuzzi tub to be found. It was just your run of the mill standard. A balcony at night. We’re just like, looks like maybe it might have been an ocean view because you can’t see any lights in the background. But it does seem like you couldn’t see it because it wasn’t dark like
me Listen, I’m guessing this is legit, though. It seems like she’s really into him and good for her and good for him. And it’ll make for a dramatic storyline. Yeah. And Shannon’s feud with Tamra will be messy, which I just come back to. How do we not see Vicki? If the trace amigas are fighting? It’s currently happening. I get that Vicki doesn’t want full time. But I don’t think she’s going to be able to resist saying her piece on camera.
Yeah, I get our own. She’s just her impulse is going to be to go back and say her piece. Maybe the ghee is finally in a good place and is done with it? I don’t think so. Just given
her main comments back and forth. With Tamra to Tamra on social. So I agree, I think
I think that’s a somebody did say somebody did say to me, and I have not been watching ticket sales or anything like that. But somebody a couple of people pointed out, they said, you know,
for all the like making fun of tres amigas their souls shows all sold out. And again, I don’t know the venue size and everything. I could be comparing whatever. 10,000 person venue to a 500 person venue. But they said that they keep bringing more people on to the Teddy Tamra thing. And they’re like, and they’re like begging to buy tickets. So like, you know, so you want about the trace in Vegas where people are showing up. So I don’t know, I thought that was interesting. I never really understood. Like, I wouldn’t go to that show. That wouldn’t would you go to that, like if it was next door and it wasn’t expensive? Yeah. Probably. If it was like close, and I didn’t have other stuff going on. Yeah, I think I would, I would be interested to see them. But it wouldn’t be something that I like, go out of my way go to a different city or like be like, hey, you know, like, right. It was like a good concert. Like I do like get a group big group like us who wants to go see like, The Rolling Stones or whatever. Like I wouldn’t do that. Like if it was like
it in easy to get to and I was completely free that night. And
I don’t know it doesn’t interest me that much. But it clearly interests a lot of people. So I’m you know, yeah, I think that’s a great point.
I just I think OC is going to be good. I think it’ll be
so stupid. And I need how is it not going to be good watching Alexis Prince around with Johnny J. And Shannon D like this.
And then you got Tamra cursing, shout it out. Shannon’s on an island all her own. You got Alexis filming with Heather and Emily. The really only island she has is jet. The new gen. You know, the one who came on is tamaraws friend. And we know that her and Tamra are still in the house but and I liked Jen. But Jen isn’t exactly like a bulldog. That’s the same as having tablet in your corner, right. And she’s newer, and she doesn’t really know how it all works so well. And Shannon’s on low moral ground right now. Honestly, like she’s not like she’s coming from like, a place where I mean, there’s going to be a lot of viewers who have absolutely zero.
You know, sympathy for her because of her actions with the DUI. I have to tell you, I do not feel that Shannon is going to I think we’ll get a little Oh, and it was because I was obviously with a bad person I’d like I don’t think she sees it as I think she feels like she is the victim because of the fact that John is with Alexis and like, forget about the DUI. No one got hurt. We’re over that. I think that’s honestly I just think that’s who she is, which is despicable to me.
Before we wrap this up, we got to talk a little boy I’m sorry to have more about I have I was one question I hate. Go ahead. Sorry. Do you saw the pictures that Alexis posted of John, do you think that she is using face
tight or face tune on him.
You know a lot of people have said to me Why does he look younger with her and thinner? Yeah, well maybe he lost some weight. I mean, he feels like he owes that baby able to tell her she’s really good at that to the ozempic is rampid I think that maybe he is who knows maybe he went got a little Botox got a little filler because he’s with a younger woman and I don’t know. Yeah, it’s not out of the question. No, I think yeah, it’s just like, I guess we’ll find out when we see him on camera if he’s looking the same way as he is analisis is slideshow.
I can’t I just find it so funny because like, it just doesn’t seem like a match but as a cocktail are said in the comments. If you could fog Jim Bellino, you could really do anything so I don’t know why I’m surprised. That’s so true. It’s so true. Oh, true.
Okay, do you want to chat Miami?
You know, I have to say something. I if you guys don’t watch Miami, I need you to like email us DM me and tell me why because I just love it. I think it is so good. If you haven’t watched it, please do. What we’re hearing we’re hearing that although they’re currently airing production is casting interviewing ladies. They would like to change the dynamic a little bit.
Anna came back she caused a frenzy was a whole internet thing with she Peter Alexis, his son posted her mugshot, not sure why she was arrested have no idea DUI maybe
she then posted his mug shot and his father’s mug shot. Hmm. Expect to see her back next season. This is what I’m hearing. It makes sense. I know that Ashley Wheeler from WAGs Miami is interested I think any reality person in Miami is interested.
Lisa and Larissa have a good friend named Xena White, who we could see and Ashley from WAGs would be introduced by Lisa and Larissa. So, there we’re gonna see some new faces. I don’t know if that means the motions. I do think some cities you could just like, infuse people and they’ve been able to have this big cast and they’re really all always featured. I think it’s something very cool. I think every production crew is different and the way it works is different. And with Miami, the larger group works for me. I love Kiki’s little bit she throws in there, Marisol to me seems like a full time Adriana seems like a full time even though they’re not.
Yeah, I agree. What are your thoughts on Lisa? Because, you know, I rightfully so but she’s annoying me.
I couldn’t agree more. I feel like well, you brought up and I thought I totally agreed the whole cleaning lady’s car but was super annoying. Like, I just feel like Lisa’s coming off as very entitled. And like it to me, this could be
another season of like cowork could be like a redemption arc for her. And like we’re we’re seeing more of what she is and who she is without Lisa. Or without Lenny. And like, it’s feels like I’m not seeing the chemistry was her and Jody don’t see it. i Yeah, like she is like chat, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat about Lenny, all the time, which I understand, like, I get it going through any kind of court case going through a divorce is all consuming. But it’s constantly talking about Lenny It’s so strange to me. I don’t and it’s so much about money. And he like I get the principle of it. I get that he built this business during your marriage and you should be entitled to but it’s just she’s not reading the room. I don’t find it humorous to insult middle class and working class people because that’s what most of us are. And
I’m just going to say it you married somebody rich, you’re not the plastic surgeon like your it just seems like she was married to Lenny for money and I think for a long time at least I saw her like she really loved him. And I’m kind of wondering like, was it just about the money like Did she just not want to lose the lifestyle that’s how it’s reading to me and listen Lenny’s an asshole, and whatever. But I as somebody who was so on her side and still am as far as like the divorce is concerned.
I just think she’s coming across as shallow and only caring about being rich. Like we brought the kid to the bank. That was tacky. It was so tacky to sit across from like, a person who works in a bank and clearly is probably not rich. And like be like you grew up different. I grew up different than you did. And I didn’t have this and that and then she’s looking at the houses and she’s like, the bedrooms are just so much smaller like
Kids don’t need 2000 square foot bedrooms, right? And I think she’s like, it’s gonna be such a big change to go from that to a 6000 square. A 6000 square foot house is huge. I can be working kidding me. I just, I’m not liking it. I don’t think the audience is liking it at all. I don’t really think it’s good for her future on the shell.
And it could have been such a cute moment with her taking her son to the May. It really could have been because he is so cute. And he wasn’t Oh, and he like had that little state bank. And, you know, it could have been adorable. And like it just she was talking about herself. Like it just wasn’t just not it’s just not a good look. I could not agree with you more.
100% Yeah, I just, I don’t know. I listen. I’m hoping she turns it around. Yeah.
Like, let’s see us spacey fun date with you. And Jodi like, because I’m not really getting it. I don’t see it. If you’re having and I know you say it’s a joke. But if you’re having to write yourself a reminder to check in how your boyfriend is doing then like, there is something crazy going on in your relationship because that is like a normal thing that you do as a human with the people you love. Like, what the heck, I don’t know. It doesn’t seem like she’s like, Oh, you look so handsome today or like, oh my gosh, she looks so hot. And that jacket, you know nothing like there’s just no, there’s no space there at all. It’s just like, says God and He’s so good. And he listens to me. And he’s there for me like, yeah, so we’re like, people’s good friends. I don’t know. The God thing is
Yeah, yeah. The God thing is it’s weird, but what is he doing there? What does he want from it? Why is he paying half her rent?
TV time? I don’t know. Like Marcus and Larsa. I get the space like they are attract you. I feel that chemistry and I get that chemistry. I don’t see it. But I’m loving Miami. I think you need to tune in. We just get a lot. We get a lot of their real lives. We’re watching Gertie shout out to Russell I love him hottest househusband on Real Housewives.
I like Julia this season. I think we’re seeing her evolve. I just think it’s great TV. I really do. It’s a great show. And like I love the city. I love the Spanglish. I love the whole thing. And Adriana like bringing her little chaos every that we’re you know sprinkling chaos everywhere she goes into it like I love that about her like the hat outfit she wore when she went to go see and like record with what’s his name? Emilio. Stevan, I have to say it was a weird outfit, but she looked fucking hot.
She’ll say anything.
Always. Yeah, always. She. She’s a hot lady. She is.
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