We have Larry from @BravobyGays here to help us wrap up some of the wildest moments from this year. We hear some tea on B and Larry’s adventures at Bravocon. We’ve got thoughts about Jen Shah, her sentencing memorandum, and of course some shade about her 70+ counterfeit items. Exclusive tea about Teresa and Melissa – B has some pretty strong opinions. Beverly Hills, Summer/Winter House and Southern Charm plus Real Housewives of Miami. Happy Holidays! We hope you have as much fun listening as we did chatting!

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Transcript: Cocktails and Gossip Episode 33

Larry 0:00
I’m excited for it. I mean, I’m excited to meet the new girls Teresa’s wedding overall is definitely one of the top moments of 2022. I mean, they obviously start the trailer with like moments from her wedding. I can’t wait to see it

B 0:21
Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from bravo and cocktails.com. And as always, it’s all alleged and just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. V.

Amanda 0:40
And I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s teep

B 0:48
What’s up cocktailers

Amanda 0:49
Hey cocktailers I’m so excited to tell you we so B and I decided to give ourselves a Christmas present. But we’re gonna share it with you by having our favorite fun guest. This week. We have Larry from Bravo by gays.

Larry 1:08
Hi, guys. Hi. I’m so excited to be here.

Amanda 1:12
Okay, so I’m dying to hear about Bravo con with you guys hanging out. And I still feel like I haven’t gotten to hear about all the shenanigans.

B 1:23
I finally met. So Larry and I, we never met. I mean, he lives in upstate New York. I live obviously in the city. So we just we never met in person. So it was our first time meeting. It was like a blind date. Right, Larry?

Larry 1:39
Oh my god. It really was. I’m so happy though. Because like, we talk every day. So you would think that like, we have like, met each other so many times over the past few years. I’m so happy we finally got to meet it really was so much fun.

B 1:56
When we did meet in the COVID era. So that’s one thing. Also Larry’s really tall.

Larry 2:01
Oh my god. Yeah. Well, I’m six foot one.

B 2:05
I don’t know why because I Larry. I’ve we’ve done like, Okay, this is so random. And you guys are gonna laugh at us. But we’ve done like zooms like us and other accounts in COVID. Like, we were all in our houses. So we would zoom so I’ve always seen him seated. Pictures, but I don’t know it didn’t make sense. So when I saw him I was that’s the first thing I said remote and I’m tall. I’m five, seven, and I had heels that I’m like, man, you’re so tall.

Larry 2:28
Yeah. No, I know. You know, I’m six foot one. A lot of people have said that before to that they think I’m sure but no, no,

Amanda 2:37
it’s not. Okay. So you guys might not be willing to share all of the secret shenanigans with us. But tell me, Larry, from your experience at Bravo Khan, who you think like who was super nice and who was maybe not as nice from like all the people you encountered there?

Larry 2:59
Yeah, I honestly thought that every person with the exception of one every person that I had met was so nice, like willing to chat, take pictures, do whatever. Like everybody was so nice with the exception of Teddy Mellencamp. I,

B 3:18
oh, shocker. And you know, Amanda’s big fan, Larry. I’m a big fan of Teddy. Thank you.

Larry 3:23
I was too. I really was a lot of people don’t like her. And I really was like a teddy Mellencamp fan. And then I was like, wow, she’s just like, I don’t know if I called her like on an off day like, but I had like, random to her maybe like twice and each time I was like, Oh, God, she was just like, not nice.

Amanda 3:40
Did you approach her and talk to her or first

Larry 3:43
time I tried to Yeah, and she kind of just like, I don’t know if maybe she was just like, a little, a little drunk. Little tip. Well, she just like didn’t seem like she cared, which is fine.

B 3:53
from Beverly Hills. She’s beautiful. It doesn’t surprise me that she’s not like warm and fuzzy. I feel like Tamar would be like fun, and probably friendly. But I feel like she could be bitchy too, which is why they probably work. I’m not I really wasn’t a teddy fan. But I listened to their podcast now. And I appreciate her more because I like that she like, gives honest takes. And it’s not just like fluff. You know what I’m saying? I’m so sick of listening to everybody kiss everybody’s ass. And Teddy doesn’t do that. So I can appreciate her on a podcast.

Larry 4:21
Yes. She the only people she does it with are her Beverly Hills friends. And she admits that though but yeah, no, I completely agree. Like, I don’t know what I was expecting. I just like, thought that maybe she would have just been a little bit more pleasant. But I mean, it is what it is. But other than that, like, every single person was so nice. Like, Whitney Rose was like probably one of the nicest celebrity like Bravo celebrities that I met while I was there but like he’s not a celebrity. But yeah, I corrected myself to Bravo liberty.

B 4:49
I have to be honest, I’m not a huge Whitney fan like as far as like her on television. She sort of whatever to me, but everybody said and I also felt really guilty because a follower sent Your message and they were like, Oh, I met Whitney Rose and I asked her she like Bravo and cocktails. And she said, she loves your account. And I was like she she clearly doesn’t pay too much attention to it because I slam her all the time. Oh, a little guilty, but whatever. But I did hear she was really sweet.

Larry 5:15
Yeah, no, I ran into her. I ran into her a bunch of times, like throughout the whole weekend. And she was really nice. I mean, yeah, there wasn’t one that was the only person I thought was, everybody else was just like, excited to be there. And like

B 5:27
doubt about when Sierra called me out in the VIP room. That was

Larry 5:31
literally Hello, man.

Amanda 5:35
I really have not heard this.

Larry 5:37
It was literally the best. So be like got us into this like s VIP Lounge, which is like, it was like, super, it wasn’t for the people who had that VIP package. So there but there really weren’t that many people in there. But like all the Bravo celebrities would like go in there for like more intimate like meet and greets like photos and all that where they would just go in there like if they wanted a drink because there was a bar in there and it’s just like, easy for them to like go in there and like hang out and like not really be like, overly bothered. One of the people that we were with goes cry like, this is Bravo and COC. We got to see so many people while we were in there like I don’t even remember all of them. But I remembered the Sierra situation was so funny because Hills didn’t point

B 6:26
at me now. They really problem cocktails is here.

Larry 6:29
Yes. And Sierra goes so loud. She wears Bravo and cocktails. And then she

B 6:36
looks right. And it was a group of us. She looks right at me. She was like, it’s you. I was like, Why me? She’s like, I can fucking tell it’s you. I was like, alright.

Larry 6:45
She goes in. She goes, girl, you roasted my ass over the Austin thing. It was so funny. But it was just like, Thank God, like there weren’t really I mean, there were people around but like, after she said that, like out loud. She kind of just like kept it to herself and like,

B 7:00
yeah, no, totally embarrassed me. But she did. It was

Larry 7:03
so funny. He was like, super surprised like, but I think even Paige was like paid got super excited.

B 7:11
When Larry was like, you have to whisper to Paige, who you are. Because obviously I’m very complimentary to page. Yeah. And like Paige and I have some adjacent which I won’t go into because it will give away too much of my personal life. But anyway, so I told I went over and I was like, and she was like, oh my god and Laurie got it all on video. Like her seeing who was me and like squeezing and hugging me. I was like, I want you to know I waited online for you but not crying because that’s true. Craig. Craig I only saw on the main floor and his line was so long. I was like, Absolutely not. Yeah.

Larry 7:43
I mean, it was it was hilarious. And Paige just like looked at like she was like hugging be. And then she like looked over at me because I was like right near them. She goes Oh, you too. This is double trouble. With Larry. Oh my god, it just it really was it was God. It was so much fun. Like one year.

B 8:06
I don’t think I shared on here, Larry that my sister in law reminded me about because I was doubting the drinks in the VIP. Because also we didn’t have to pay for them. Like we just like don’t even ask our friends shout out to Susan Patrice. They’re the ones with the cool big account. They snuck us in. Oh, yeah. So really cool. I went over to Brian Benny and his brother was with him. And his brother is as cute as him in person. Right, Laurie? Oh, I

Larry 8:29
remember this. Yes, yes. But

B 8:31
on TV, and a brother does not look anywhere near as cute as him. So I’m like, Oh my god. Brian, your brother. He looks so ugly on TV. But you’re so cute. You guys are just as cute as each other. And my sister in law afterwards, just like you told him I may look so I’m like, but it was a compliment. Like, it didn’t come out correctly. But if you see him on television, he also pointed out that he’s very young. He’s like, in his very early 20s He’s like, Well, when we filmed that first season, I was only like 80 and I’ve kind of come into my own and I was like, No, you’re adorable. But on television. I mean, you like a dog.

Amanda 9:08
Oh my gosh.

Larry 9:11
It was hilarious. They are both very attractive and

B 9:15
very, and their parents are like I wanted to like I wanted to join their family. But I think I’m not invited after that. But I tried to make it better. I was like I don’t mean it like that. Like you know some people look good on television like your brother but you look better in person and then I was like overcompensating by telling him he was better looking. And Larry and my sister in law I’m always trying to face or like be stop walk away. I feel

Amanda 9:45
like I want to go to the next problem con for so many reasons, but some of it is I just want to like see really up close. Like, somewhat like some of these like Bravo liberties like they their skin and like Okay, do they have eyelash extensions? Like what are their, you know, like, like, you know what, like their hair and like their, you know, I just want to see all of this stuff and like, I don’t know I’m fascinated

B 10:14
and like not to make it all about looks, but some of them it is weird because some of them are so like i And Lindsey looks good on television. Don’t mistake me Lindsay Hubbard. Laurie, isn’t she breathtaking in

Larry 10:26
her stunning, stunning? They

B 10:29
say she’s prettier in person? And then she looks on TV?

Larry 10:32
Yes, yeah. 100% I’m majority of that. They were all very, very attractive, like, a lot were much more attractive in person than like, on TV, like, but I did not see. One, like one ugly Bravo lab. They are

B 10:48
beautiful, all good looking.

Amanda 10:51
Right, like, you see somebody in person, and it is different. And that’s why I like that what I just said, I’m like, that does sound like super, super shallow. But it’s like, you feel like you get to know these people. And it’s kind of like you guys, right? Like, you do know each other really well. But then you got to meet in person. And it’s a little bit different, right? And you get to like, see what somebody is

B 11:13
different? Because like you don’t know someone’s mannerisms? You know what I mean? So it’s very different. Like, even like,

Amanda 11:19
they were Yeah, like, that is interesting to me. Like what perfect people were? I don’t know. No, I

Larry 11:27
know. Yeah.

Amanda 11:28
So I don’t know. Well, maybe some time you guys will tell us tell me at least like some of the stories that I still haven’t heard. But that was a good one.

B 11:37
And I do apologize to the Benny family in general.

Larry 11:42
To make a public statement, and his

B 11:44
mother’s beautiful and his father’s hands and they’re all good looking. I had no business really saying any of that. I just, I just was I was you know, I was surprised how cute he was. He looks just like Brian in person.

Larry 11:56
Oh, my God, they look identical. They really do.

Amanda 11:59
It’s kind of like being at the United club, right? Like at the airport lounge where you’re like, I wouldn’t normally have a mimosa at eight o’clock in the morning. But because they’re free, and they’re right here. So I’m sure you’re probably like, well, they’re free. I might as well have a few drinks.

B 12:16
Laurie actually was pacing himself because Larry was there for three days. Larry also was working for Direct TV. So he had to interview people at certain points. So he was like, more behaved. I was like, I was like, I was there for one day. And I was like slamming cocktails.

Larry 12:30
I literally like I I got into New York on Thursday, and I had went to a party on Thursday, and I drank so much that I was so dead Saturday and Sunday. It was insane. I like tried to drink. But it was like literally nonstop from the moment that I got to New York until like, the minute that Bravo Khan was over on Sunday. It was just like, go go go like there was just so much going on. That like I

B 13:04
even like the time was showing me on Saturday he was in he’s like, I’m pacing myself mode.

Larry 13:09
Yeah. And it was like, in just because there was like so much to do, like even Saturday that like I think I just kind of like wore myself out the first few days where I wish I would have definitely like paced myself more because I tried to like even like get a drink there and like just casually like walk around. And I was I was so frickin hungover in

B 13:31
public like Larry and other people, like people were stopping them. Like, you know what I mean? So like, he’s sort of like, it’s almost like being a mini Bravo lab. I had, you know, the I was I’m anonymous, so nobody knew. But like, people were like, Oh, my God is probably gate like, you know, so he didn’t want to be like, showing his ass.

Amanda 13:51
Yeah,

Larry 13:52
yeah, Billy would have been like a complete douche if I was drunk and like talking to people because like, I kind of, I mean, I love meeting everybody. It was like, it was really cool. But imagine if you’re just trying to have fun. I don’t know how the Bravo celebrities did it. They got stopped every two seconds. Like, Oh, God. But it definitely was it was so much fun. And I I’ll tell you next year, if they do it again, I kind of I don’t know where I heard someone say that they were thinking about doing it either next year, like every 18 months, like every year and a half or whatever. I 100% will go back. I was lucky enough this year. That Bravo had invited me so I had gotten a VIP pass, but I would I would definitely pay to go as VIP. Next The next time. Same.

B 14:36
I’ll only go if I’m asked VIP after we were in that lounge like and I wouldn’t leave they’re like, don’t you want to go to that? I’m like, I’m staying here like I’m seeing everybody. Yeah, I’m Yeah, I liked that. I agree. I did like the panels. The panels were cool. Yeah,

Amanda 14:50
I wanted to ask you Larry so like, going again, like you were in for three days. Do you feel like you got to see and do everything or do you feel like there was Tell some stuff that you got FOMO because you just couldn’t be in more than one place at once. I feel

Larry 15:04
like I got to do a lot because I literally I was at the Javits Center from open until close Friday, Saturday and Sunday, so I got to squeeze in a lot. The only thing I didn’t really like was that there were so many panels that overlapped that I needed to go to every single one that I wanted to. So I wish they kind of, I don’t know, I mean, but you also you have to put everybody in one room.

B 15:28
Yes, VIP was the same line. But as VIP had front and center seats and VIP seats were front but on the side. For me, if I’m dedicating my time I want to do it. Like I don’t want to be you know what I’m saying? So I would just do SVP. Yes. It’s expensive. But you know, we’ll prioritize. And our friend, our friend, Ali Bravo afterthoughts, she was very into like the meet and greet sir. She She missed going into the VIP because like, there was a short window where I was able to sneak people in. And she missed the window because she was waiting who she went in for I don’t even remember.

Larry 16:02
I don’t even know she waited like hours though. To meet people. I was like, Okay, I’ll like look for me. I will. I didn’t really like wait in line to meet anyone. Except for Paige because my girlfriend that I was with, like really wanting to take a picture with her. But I’m happy with like, seeing like, oh, I can see you from afar. I’m good. Like, I saw you. I’m okay. I don’t need to like, take a photo with you. But I was waiting in those lines. I was like, Damn, girl. Okay, you got she had like, the stamina to do it, though. She’s child.

B 16:32
All right. But what we want to do today, and I asked my followers was go over, grab those wild is 2022 moments. Yeah. So okay.

Amanda 16:43
So Well, let’s start with start with the biggest one of I think just what followers said. And then like, were so much of our attention span with Jen Shah.

Larry 16:58
Yeah, absolutely. So okay,

B 17:00
so yeah, we know she was. So we said last week that we heard she was invited to the reunion. And then she made a statement. And we found out that she was invited. Originally, she was not invited. Then they invited her which made sense, right, wrap up your story. But basically, she said, I can’t talk about my case. And they said, Well, if you can’t talk about your case, don’t bother coming. And she was advised not to attend by her legal counsel, which is probably the smartest decision she’s made in at least 20 years. Still hearing she made to sit down with Andy. Larry, do you foresee that like as a thing,

Larry 17:31
I saw that rumor i Someone had made a post about it. I just don’t know if I believe it. Like if there was she was willing to go to the reunion, but then said she couldn’t talk about her case. So they’ve said don’t bother coming. But she’s going to do a one on one sit down about stuff she couldn’t talk about if she would have went to the union. That doesn’t make sense to me.

Amanda 17:49
I actually though, I could see a couple of things changing that one being she could do it after her sentencing. But before she reports, but because right now, it would be I think, very, very bad decision from my non legal degree situation, for her to do that before she’s sentenced. Right. But I also could see too, if it’s a one on one, she can negotiate that it’s outside of the chaos of what all these other people are going to say. You know, Andy asks a question that’s like, out of the realm of what she’s agreed to talk about and what she hasn’t, then she could, you know, kind of stop it versus being at the reunion when there’s all these other people there and there’s a lot less control. So I see her possibly and and it could be a payday for her to kind of help out with his or her restitution or, you know, help with the family before she has to go and report.

Larry 18:46
I wonder I completely get what you’re saying. I wonder though, if it would even be a payday because it’s her obligation in her contract to just go to the reunion, so maybe they wouldn’t pay her but she would just get paid out for the rest of the season. Because I think they get a big they get a big chunk of their contract money by completing the reunion. And I can I get what you’re saying about doing it after her sentencing. I just wonder, though, because her sentencing is what January beginning of January January 6, I believe, correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t she have been able to film the reunion because it wouldn’t air until after her sentencing or I wonder if leave her legal team would need if they would if they would require the recordings from the reunion for court. You know what I mean before it airs, I don’t know but that makes sense for her to do it after her sentencing because after that, we already know she’s going to prison. So ya know that I mean,

B 19:40
so often they go on and say I can’t talk about that but she could certainly she she doesn’t have to like we saw Erika Jayne do it. We saw Teresa do it. You don’t have to directly reference it, but she could sum up taking accountability admitting her wrongdoing. So it’s a lot of her not wanting to put publicly say those things is my opinion, right? Because, yeah, of course, you can’t talk about the specifics of a case. Nobody ever can. But you can say, you know, the reason I ultimately pled guilty was because and then today, we saw a cold shot. Did you see that

Larry 20:14
thing? I saw a piece of it. I didn’t read the whole thing. But I saw like a piece of someone’s post.

B 20:20
I mean, essentially, he said, My wife has been under a lot of stress because she’s lost family members. And I always worked a lot when I was an attorney. And then I thought when I was a coach, I would be able to work last but I’m traveling all the time. It kind of sounds like she blamed her poor decision making on her husband not being around to that I’m like, well, there are 1000s of people that don’t have their spouses around. Nevermind single mothers but like, what about military you know, military wives or, or doctors wives or any wife whose husband has a busy schedule? You know, she lacks respect for quite frankly, her family and her no accountability for her actions. And why would coach even I don’t know, the statement was wack.

Larry 21:07
Yes, she’s one that like, I as the her delusion is really out of control, because she really thinks that like, she should be able to get away with whatever she wants, like just even look at the way she acts on the show. Like, she does one thing and then the next minute she like pretends like she doesn’t remember doing it. But like the whole situation with Lisa like, Two episodes ago. It just like her delusion is just like so out of control. I also saw that like she had was like requesting like a shorter term sentence that you’re facing 30 years, but you’re only asking for 36 months, like, come on.

B 21:42
And so today, there was a teaser, literally just saw it this afternoon, and it was Heather and all the ladies sitting and they’re like, how did you get that black eye? And Heather’s like, I have no memory. I don’t know. And some one of them says like, it looked like someone punched you she goes well, that’s what it looks like. Like, did Jen do that? And is Heather not saying it is Heather just trying to make good TV like I was going with? It’s an accident because nothing has leaked about it. But like, imagine Jen really did that.

Larry 22:12
Yeah, I saw that. I actually just watched it a little bit ago. I think she’s just trying to do good TV. If Jen did do it, you would I would think that Heather would not continue to be her friend. But right her and Jen and Angie Harrington like her all hang out together and they go on Instagram live so they’re all still like very much friends. So I would hope that she wouldn’t be her friend if she did actually, like physically punch her. But I mean, it’s Heather. She would she literally sucks Jen’s asshole. It’s insane.

Amanda 22:43
Did you guys catch that at the end of the last so we’re we’re actually recording this just so you guys know. On the 21st It’s a Wednesday so we haven’t seen tonight’s episode yet. Did you guys catch that at the end of last week’s episode when Heather and Jen like there’s too the last ones to go to bed and then Heather’s like it’s okay. You can come sleep in my room just come into my room. You can sleep with me and then she you see her lock the door and of course we don’t know at what time she locked it or if it’s even the same night but you’re assuming because she’s in that like, you know room with a door to the outside that she just you know, locked it when she came in. So I wonder if it’s something to do with like Jen getting furious because she can’t get in and then there was an accident.

Larry 23:34
That was my theory. My theory was that she herself in the face with the door. So that would aggressively opened it and maybe it knocked Heather in the face. So maybe Jen didn’t hit her. But her Forrest trying to open the door did right. That would that’s what would make most sense to me. I don’t think anyone physically punched her.

B 23:51
It makes sense that somehow they were both wasted. And in that state. Jen caused an accident which of course isn’t the same as physically aggressing someone Right? Right. So that could be why Heather’s being vague, which again, isn’t cool. Because if that’s what happened, you’re making it sound and listen, I have zero sympathy for Jim. But I’m just saying just say it that and be like we were wasted and she pushed the door open and it hit me in my eye because everyone on that couch is thinking Jen punched her

Larry 24:21
100%

Amanda 24:23
Well, and the show even made it look like maybe Whitney went after her because they had their little physical alteration. Earlier when they were in Scottsdale. I don’t know. So okay, Larry. I’m very curious to know. I mean, what are your thoughts on Jen? Do you feel like she, you know, is is guilty of kind of, did you? I mean, we know that she’s guilty because she pled guilty, but did you think she was guilty all along? Oh, 100%.

Larry 24:55
Yeah. Someone would found out at it. Yeah, no, I never doubted it. It was just like somebody that I mean, she, she always just seems like put up a front like with her business. Like I mean, even when was the season one or Season Two when really nobody could like, figure out like what she even did for work like none. Nobody really knew I wasn’t surprised at all, that she when she had pled guilty. I mean, it was only a matter of time she was either going to plead guilty, or they were going to find her guilty, like in the court, especially because it’s the southern district in New York. And there, there was a thoroughly a conviction rate is the highest in the country. It’s like not 198 99%. So, I mean, they wouldn’t go after her unless they actually had solid proof to find to find that she was guilty. For me. It’s like by girl, like I see. I’m kind of like happy that she’s gone. Because she really like every episode. It’s just her like screaming at the girls and like, not like, you know what I mean? Like, she just doesn’t really do it for me. Season One. I was like, Oh my God, this woman is like, the housewife. She’s so great. And then like, as it went on, and then like, all this stuff happened. I was like, Okay, I’m not going to be sad to see her go.

Amanda 26:06
Right? Yeah, agreed. And you know, it’s so funny that you bring that up, because I’ve been noticing about her being delusional because it was like, it is a pattern right? Like, I remember the first season when she like, gets in that big fight with coach, she’s like, you’re never there. That’s why I act out and I am upset because I lost, you know, people close to me and it’s always like her looking outward and never owning up to like the crap that she pulls and so it you’re right, like, she does show us a pattern of kind of delusion and, and, and a lack of remorse to that. It’s it all fits.

Larry 26:46
It’s always someone else’s fault. It’s never hurts. Yes.

B 26:49
And expect so much. Like, listen, Angie Harrington’s husband making that Instagram is so stupid and whatever. But like, when she feels she’s been wronged. I mean, people need to grovel and beg and nobody should speak to the person and, and yeah, her whatever she does can be explained away because because because her father died her this Listen, losing a parent is awful. I’ve been through it myself. It does not excuse criminal behavior. It does not excuse shitty behavior in general. Like, you know, grief does not mean you rob vulnerable people. So coaches an enabler like I’ve been on. I’ve been like, see sign with my feelings about Coach and we spoke about it a lot about what he knew. And and I’m not saying he knew the full extent, I do think there’s a certain turning a blind eye to it, right? If I suddenly start making millions and millions of dollars, and there’s nowhere to connect the dots. And I’m telling my husband, it’s because I have a new marketing company. Like he’s gonna want to, like know, a little bit more than that.

Larry 28:01
Oh, I would like for some if my

B 28:02
husband like vice versa, like, because you’re legally tied to it. And of course, nobody expects that their spouse is going to do something illegal, but like, what kind of marketing company like, Huh? What is this? Like, tell me more about it?

Larry 28:15
Right. And to be honest, I mean, when we don’t know what happens behind closed doors, they could have had a conversation that like, he just acts like he doesn’t know. And we wouldn’t, we wouldn’t never know. I mean, he could be lying. And he could have known all along, we’ll never know the truth.

B 28:32
And also, if he was completely lied to, let’s let’s put it there his statement not now. He knows what she did. And he’s still defending it. So

Amanda 28:41
well, one really good thing about her pleading guilty is she it’s her story to own and to run with and so she can write a tell all in present or make have a movie made of it. And I have no doubt she’s going to try and I am really just, you know, me, I’m the deep diver. And I love to know details about all this kind of stuff. And I’m very interested just to hear more about how she got into it, how she even knew to even be able to do this because she just that’s always been the thing that just didn’t quite add up to me is it? It just felt like such a complicated operation, that big part of me doubted that she would be able to pull that off. So I would love to know just more about how all that goes and and you know, at what point she decided to kind of go into this big organized white collar crime.

Larry 29:40
I feel like in her mind, she thinks she still thinks she’s innocent. I really do. Even if she is going to jail and pled guilty. I think that she would still she’s I think she would still say she’s innocent. I can see like, Go spin it right. Yeah, I can see her being like, I’m innocent. I was just told to plead guilty because like You know what I mean? Like because of something like, I’m but I’m innocent, I didn’t really do anything I can just see her being that that kind of person like, Girl We know you’re guilty. You stole money from grandma and grandpa like you just own it and keep it moving. I would respect her more if she owned it and said like what exactly she did, then her continue to lie. And maybe

B 30:17
her delusion is what allowed her to do it right? That she wasn’t doing anything wrong, her belief that somebody was going to do it anyway, right? So why not me, her belief that it was already going on. And this was something that was happening. So like it, you know, I might as well profit off it too. There has to be an element of that, right? She’s a mother, she’s a wife, she’s a friend. You have to convince yourself somehow, like nobody can sleep at night being like, I’m robbing little old ladies. That don’t, that you know, whose children live at a state and aren’t around to you know what I’m saying? So something had to allow her to sleep at night. And the way she rationalized it to herself for the amount of time she did it is the same you know what I’m saying? So it’s it’s how she’s rationalized to coach. It’s how it’s what’s caused him to now spin that right. And to your point of, would she be able to be the mastermind? Maybe that’s coaches feeling maybe he feels like there’s no way she started this operation. And he believes that she became a part of something that was spearheaded and Master Mind by someone else. Right? And so that she was a victim of having too much time on her hands and got involved with bad people. That’s basically what he said. I’m like, I’m sorry, I have two kids. Two, when you have two kids, you never have that much time on your hands.

Larry 31:31
All right. I will say I did see her at a party at Bravo con and the way she acted was not that of a woman who was going to jail. She literally was she was living her best life and in her own head like I’m here and like, you know what I mean? Like it was just the way she acted was just it was another level that definitely wasn’t some that wasn’t that’s not the way you would think somebody would ask when they’re facing a sentencing hearing in a couple months you know what I mean? Like it just like especially when Bravo tells you that like in this I’m they started at Bravo calm that they cut their ties with her after she had pled guilty. Why would you still show up then you look crazy. Like you look like they didn’t ask you to be there. And

B 32:20
her state paid for her own room. They did right lodging are right

Larry 32:24
in like, they, they clearly like uninvited you. And then her statement was she was like they asked me they told me they uninvited me. And then they asked me to come but then I said I couldn’t talk about the case. And they uninvited me. I mean, they also could have told her like you can say whatever you want but you’re just not coming so she perhaps she could have just made that up to like it just I don’t ever believe anything that she says to her statement to me. I was like, Oh, whatever. Right.

Amanda 32:50
So we also know from this week she that the feds announced that they seized over 70 items that work counterfeit from her home so fake Chanel, fake Irma’s, Balenciaga Dior, Bottega, Veneta, Louie Vuitton, Chanel jewelry, I mean all kinds of very, very high end names so I am not a huge like, huge big label person, but you know, then this started this whole other conversation on the website and on Instagram about the fakes and is it was it a good fake or not a good fake? Like, I don’t know was her stuff visibly fake or was it well the quote unquote good fakes okay,

B 33:39
what I learned from gen stuff getting seized is there are a lot of good fakes and as a matter of fact there it’s like a whole operate a whole other illegal operation that these designers tried to shut down, but they actually have fakes that use the same materials. Like wow, the leather like it’s the same thing except it’s not made by Louis Vuitton right or whatever Chanel and there are people in Manhattan and I’m sure other big cities that like you have to know somebody to know somebody or know somebody and a lot of housewives actually use these people.

Larry 34:17
I’m not surprised Yeah,

B 34:20
I got a few a website links and I actually have somebody who said they could connect me to the person that I’m not going to name which former Roni OG housewife uses, but I was like, You know what, like, I really don’t need to be getting involved with this like I know about Canal Street which you guys don’t need Canal Street is in Manhattan and I knew that there were like back rooms that you got better fakes, but this is even a higher level. There’s levels to fake shit. And I when I was younger, I had fake and now like a grown up, you know, my husband on like, I don’t know Valentine’s Day will get me a real bag. But I think we don’t need to anymore. There’s also like websites like DH gate, which apparently my sister in law, like a lot of people know about it. And certain sellers on there, you have to look at reviews and whatever and it’s all communicated through WhatsApp. It’s a whole thing. It’s mostly from China. So Oh, go ahead. And you can get like, I had followers send me a picture of like Dr. Slide, you know, those slides with Christian Dior logo? Yeah. She, her best friend had a real pair. She bought the fake pair for and it’s not like super cheap, it ranges anywhere from like, 100 to a couple 1000 Like, a $10,000 bag and it really being leather and whatever you could spend like 2500 on a fake one. But you’re carrying a bag that people around think cost you $12,000 Yeah. So it’s a whole

Amanda 35:48
round table quick. For all three of us. I want us to all name a number here from zero to 100% What percentage of like super labelee stuff that we see or even not even just like the when I say Super labelee I always think of something like a Louis Vuitton bag. It’s got the logo all over it, but some of their stuff doesn’t right. What percentage of the stuff that we see on housewives do you guys think is fake?

B 36:17
I think other than Beverly Hills, it’s mostly fake shit.

Larry 36:21
There I would say like 75 to 80% of it’s gotta be fake.

B 36:24
And now that I know what I know. Then a lot of the outfits are rented to

Larry 36:29
who was it? Was it um, Potomac where they were the nd was it? Was

Amanda 36:34
that Potomac. I’ve seen some stuff that was where it was like it

Larry 36:38
was missing the AF and it was just nd but like the rest of Fundy?

B 36:43
Like going seasons back before like people were watching it closer like there’s that account who’s the count bad fashions or something? Yes. So always has stuff it’s like misspelled or whatnot. misspelled, but like, the stitching doesn’t add up.

Amanda 37:00
Or too small, right? That shirt I’m specifically thinking of, but I also look at it to like some of the stuff looks so easily knocked off, right? Like there’s the Chanel stuff with a bow. There’s the Bulgari stuff. There’s the stuff that just looks so you know, even other Chanel stuff that’s just like the necklaces with the pearls and then just the Chanel logos. I’m like, There’s nothing super special about how that’s made or whatever, it’s so easy to knock off. So that’s always stuff I like the jewelry especially I’ve always kind of questioned and I always figured a lot of the housewives were either borrowing or renting stuff. Like this whole fake conversation has blown my mind.

Larry 37:45
I mean, it makes sense to me because like, they’re, I get what I mean, obviously like they’re all trying to like keep up with the Joneses. But like, if you can’t afford the real thing, like I mean, you kind of look like you kind of look like a knockoff you’re you’re a knockoff yourself, because why wouldn’t you just you just you obviously you can’t afford it to just get something else. Like, I would feel like even though like I feel like so weird wearing like a knockoff.

B 38:14
Right? Like I’d rather have like, whatever you want the real thing are you real ones than a bunch of fakes. But I also it was so funny because of followers sent me and I reposted it they’re like not housewives wearing fakes while their average viewer goes out and purchases the real thing. Right? Yeah, like, you know what I’m saying? Like, you know, we see it as viewers and it’s like, oh, what do you ask for for Christmas? Oh, can you get me and we may not get the 20 depending on your income, right? We mean, we may not get the $20,000 Louis, but it’s just silly. I think there’s a lot of fakes. I think I think Kyle has real shit. Kathy Hilton has real shit. Even Lisa Rinna and Eric They all have real shit. Yeah, Beverly Hills is mostly real stuff. I do think some of them rent outfits. Which Listen, no shame in it, right? Whatever.

Larry 39:00
Oh, yeah, we’re not even admitted in the last season. She’s like, always rented.

B 39:04
Yeah, right. Which are you sending $10,000 on an outfit you’re gonna wear once like even to rent it? I’m sure he’s like 900 Right, right. Like it’s so cheap.

Amanda 39:13
I don’t know my mind was just blown by this because I’ve seen a lot of fake bags that I can spot right like just bad stitching on like a fake Louis you can tell because like it never it doesn’t look like that or like a leather

B 39:25
color. Like on the traditional like never fool or speedy the leather doesn’t age so it just stays that like light white that’s how you know a real Louie right you write the leather on the handle ages

Amanda 39:39
but I didn’t know that there were so many such high quality fakes and that there’s a there’s a whole superior level of fakes. This was like

Larry 39:49
there’s like a whole fake designer side of TiC tock it’s insane that like they’ll get like their knock offs like in actual like packaging from like the designer it like and even It just is so crazy. But it also goes to ask like, so she has all of this knockoff stuff. I mean, I guess it’s cheaper to buy the knockoff. I mean, then, but then like, she’s still because then she has like all this money leftover, you know what I mean?

B 40:18
Right? Well, that’s what I was gonna say she really stole the money. So Right. Good for her. Hopefully she saved it because she’s gonna have a lot, a lot of tax and debt and

Amanda 40:25
whatever to pay back. 9 million, right.

B 40:29
But that’s a and the funny part is in a lot of people said like, why did they document that they were faked? Well, they documented they were fake. So they could say, Yeah, you could claim that you spent $2 million on clothing and bags. However, they’re counterfeit. So you didn’t spend that much where’s the money? Right?

Amanda 40:47
Well, and they can’t sell it. Right. Like they also can’t sell it for to make restitution. Because there’s a big after market, you know, a secondhand new market, and they’re not gonna

Larry 40:58
sell it because it’s illegal to sell fakes. And now there’s nothing to do with that product.

Amanda 41:03
Exactly. They have to destroy it. I think Larry will know

B 41:06
that they do. What is what is this quote from? I feel like it’s a housewife show it’s if you ask me, we’ll never see her again. Oh, no. Maybe it’s like not housewives. Maybe. No, it

Larry 41:17
does sound very familiar. I don’t know what it’s from though.

B 41:20
If you asked me we’ll never see her again. That’s how I feel about Jen. Oh,

Larry 41:23
was it about Mary Cosby?

B 41:26
Maybe, maybe. Which is a whole other rabbit hole. Well, let’s get to our let’s get to our second most about

Larry 41:35
oh, it’s Lisa Rinna about Denise Richards. Yeah,

B 41:39
I knew you would know Larry, you just about Jen Cha you asked me you will never see her again.

Amanda 41:45
Yeah, I think you guys are right. Okay, so next big crazy Bravo moment of 22 was Teresa’s wedding, and the feud. And it’s still insane to me that we still have not seen one other than the trailer that came out today. Not one minute of actual the actual show. But we already know so much about what has happened. During this season. There’s this whole feud with Teresa’s brother, Joe and Melissa, her sister in law, who ended up not going to the wedding. And then like I mentioned, we have the trailer from today. So Larry, what do you think about that? Did you watch the trailer yet?

Larry 42:24
Oh, my God. Yeah, I watched it twice. I’m excited for it. I mean, I’m excited to meet the new girls. Teresa’s wedding overall, is definitely one of the top moments it’s 2022. I mean, they obviously start the trailer with like moments from her wedding. I can’t wait to see it. I mean, I’m assuming that she’s getting a special and it will just not air until after the end of the season is until the end of season 13. I can. I know we were chatting a little about Melissa’s mom, or Melissa’s mom and sisters not being invited in and the more I think of it, like If Teresa really wasn’t in a good spot with Melissa. Like why would she invite them like, but here’s my end, I’m a little bit it’s like a little bit different for me. Like I would invite my brothers like in laws, if I was like as close with them as they had made it seem like Theresa was with Melissa’s mom. But then after that, like thinking about it a little bit probably like it would be a little bit weird, especially if they’re on the rocks. So I can’t wait to see it all play out. I really cannot. And I’m like already, like the tree huggers like need to relax about like just seeing when

B 43:35
I showed the clip. Larry the first not the first thing, but one of the things I noticed was Melissa say and like my mother, my mother’s always been good to her. So I immediately reached out to someone I know that knows. And I’m like, I thought that Melissa was referencing like maybe her mother not and her sister’s not being invited to the rehearsal dinner, right? Because they had a whole weekend of events, right? Yeah. And this was prior to Melissa and Joe not going. So I was like, and the person was like they weren’t invited to the wedding. Now. Obviously, they’re not in a good place now, but that transpired like throughout the season, the invites were sent and her mother was left off the list. My thing is Teresa’s all about old school Italian family values. Yeah. As my own mother was okay. You always invite in laws, especially to a big wedding. You’re having a huge wedding. She invited freaking Chanel Ayaan, who she met one day, invited Ramona Singer who we no published her wedding invitation ultimately didn’t come and didn’t send a gift. But you don’t invite your sister even if you have a beef with your sister in law. Let’s forget about the sisters. Her 70 something year old mother, who we watched be very good buddies with the dad after her mom had passed. We watched one season they were at Mother’s Day brunch. And Melissa’s mother said to Teresa, I know no one can ever replace your mother always know you can always call me or come see me. I’m always here for you. So I’m sorry, at a minimum, the way that Teresa operates and her her bylaws her her belief system of this old school Italian sisters, I still believe that sisters should be invited. But you don’t invite Melissa 70 something year old mother, it doesn’t matter. It wasn’t like at that point. They had had the falling out. And Melissa wasn’t going to the wedding that happened after. So to leave her mother out to me is egregious. And it plays into the narrative that everyone says, which is he is a narcissist, and he wants to isolate her from her family. And I don’t care whatever transpired after her mother not being invited. That is such a hit to Joe and Melissa. I mean, she’s an elderly woman.

Larry 45:48
Yeah, and she could have made the decision not to go afterwards, but at least you would have been invited, you know, right. She could

B 45:56
do it’s keeping up appearances. And she did it and I, in my heart of hearts, I don’t believe it was Teresa’s choice. I believe it was his choice. I believe he gave her this whole song and dance about them. Right? Because he listen, there’s no denying Melissa and her bra and Joe and Theresa have bad blood. And there’s no sense in debating. There have been times they’re both wrong. One is wrong. One is right. You can’t have a problem if one person is innocent. With that said her mother hasn’t done anything to Teresa, and I like to see her explain why she left her out. Right? Well,

Amanda 46:33
it doesn’t fit Teresa’s narrative to have like, I just want to be close to my brother and I do everything I can to. You know, like, she’s had this like, whole narrative that she’s been going on and on and on about and then because, you know, when we were talking just a little bit before we started recording today, I was like, I don’t know, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. And like if you know, you know, somebody in my family who was getting married, would they but we don’t all live in the same place. We have family all over the country. And you know, we’re not all doing like so many holidays like we’ve seen them do. And so the more I think about it, the more I’m like, That is a real direct snub on you know, and it’s a it’s definitely an in your face, Melissa move, I think from whether Theresa is the one who was behind it, she’s still part of the one who executed it. So I think she’s, you know, just unfortunately, just as that fall even if Lou is the one who was kind of the mastermind behind that move,

B 47:35
and imagine if the shoe was on the other fit we all remember how Theresa regarded her parents in the highest regard, which is a beautiful thing. Imagine if her parents were excluded from something

Larry 47:46
that’s really show yeah, it just goes to show it Yeah, the double standard Teresa’s family, family family and don’t get me wrong. I like Teresa, Hershey’s all family, family family but only only with her rules. You know what I mean? Like it has family family family, but the way she wants it to be not like taking anyone else’s like feelings or thoughts into consideration. It just I’m so sick of people are like, I love Melissa Gorga I know there’s a lot of people that don’t like her. It like blows my mind that people are like, up looks like Melissa has the same storyline again this season. St. Teresa, keep pushing it. Why not? It’s insane. Like they tree huggers literally like she can do no wrong in their eyes and it just like it might.

B 48:36
So I posted I posted about trees, his mom and sisters not being invited. I’m sorry, Melissa’s and the tree huggers are like why should they be they didn’t do anything for her while she was in jail. And I’m like, Okay, well, when she got home the seasons the season after that. She was actually friendly. Remember, she was out to dinner with the sisters. Yeah, she had the mother over. They are obviously friendly with each other. So if whether they did or didn’t help the mother and the sisters with the girls while Teresa was in prison, Teresa when she got out was fine with them, and they were all on good terms. So what could a 70 something year old woman have done except exist and be Melissa’s bloodline to offend her. But there are other so like, then I have Melissa’s team inbox me and they were like they named a couple of things that Teresa had done and they said to me and I want to know your opinion on this guys. They said if Melissa had done any of the things that Theresa has done recently, her crazy fan base on Twitter would go bananas. She started a podcast on the same pod company as Melissa, right. Whatever their pod one,

Larry 49:38
podcast one Yeah,

B 49:40
she moved on to the street. Yes, the Gorgas have since moved but she legitimately bought a house on their street. And now most recently this follower has said which unblock from Teresa but Teresa is constantly posting our house now we know Joe and Melissa are posting their house they just moved in but they this person was like Teresa’s never really posted her house so much and now she’s doing what Melissa is doing. So it’s just I think they’re both guilty of playing this game with each other. So yeah, I just think the not inviting the mother is an obvious way of looking like a jerk.

Amanda 50:13
Right well and they’re continuing to just try to one up each other of like, who can give each other the bigger fuck you you know like I would like to I would I’d like to see it squash but it’s starting to feel like maybe it never will be.

Larry 50:28
And then we won’t be squashed until they’re all off TV. Yeah, I feel like that’s my own opinion. But I can’t wait to see the wedding. We’re

Amanda 50:36
living away. Right? If right if Louie Koch goes out of the picture, I could see it getting squashed to right.

B 50:43
And by go away, do we mean go to camp or leave? Anyway, and then Frank and Dolores. I’m so happy to see Dolores, his new boyfriend with his cute Irish brogue. But like it made me feel bad. And also what was frank with the tank top? In the restaurant Did you guys notice that? Like there’s like a nice Italian restaurant, and he’s wearing skinny T

Larry 51:06
I love them so much like, divorce me feel pain or people when he was like, breaking down about how he wants his family back. Like, let’s just let’s show because we met wasn’t it? Um, the last reunion where he said that him and Paul are like, in a good spot. So yeah,

B 51:23
see some of that? Yeah, I’m gonna pass that. And then, Margaret, did you see them? I mean, these two and each other and people. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And like, Jen can’t stand the sight of Margaret because to her. She’s willing to sacrifice everything for her children. And she sees Margaret as the adulterer. And she says that she’s like, you you’ll never have a family like I have Margaret has a family. Like just because it looks different than yours doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a family. And then and then on the same time you see her in the same, you know, scene later you see her cursing her husband out for not helping or not doing so it’s like she’s mad because Margaret left an unhappy marriage, where she felt unappreciated. And she’s choosing to stay in that marriage, which is a choice. It’s two different sorts of families you’re choosing to have, but it’s like not right to diminish Margaret’s family and also her son’s 26 and doesn’t want to be on television.

Larry 52:29
She does that every season where she pulls that stuff with Marguerite that like get a new get a new stick. Like it’s like the one thing you go after her constantly because it’s the only thing you have to go after her about. Like it’s just me get over it. Like you’re taking out your anger with your husband on her. And that’s just like it’s ridiculous.

B 52:46
Agreed. I’m excited to see the new girls. I think Danielle is show extra, but I love it. I think that she’s going to be very good TV. I honestly think she could completely replace Theresa because I think it’s sort of like what Teresa was 15 years ago. Yeah. Except that her husband’s like, seems to be nice.

Larry 53:04
Yeah, I’m excited to see them too. I am happy that Jackie still has a role even though I mean every obviously like we have known for a long time that she’s gonna be demoted to a friend of but I’m happy to see that she’s still on there because I feel like she put it all out there the last season or two. So I’m, I’m happy to like see what her journey is this season. I’m a big Jackie fan. I get a lot of meat for it. But

B 53:27
she’s good people. I like Jackie.

Amanda 53:29
Did you guys see that? Bravo. I mean, I think they had Andy’s name on it. But it was from Bravo. Cent the housewives leather jackets. Yes. With their names on it. And Jackie had one.

Larry 53:41
Oh, good. No, I didn’t see that. That’s really cool. Yes. So that’s a good sign.

B 53:46
But she but she’s gonna be in a plenty. Look. I mean, Marisol and Adriana are friends and they’re on just as much. Yeah. But you see in the cast photo. It’s great, because Dola was in the middle very clearly. She’s friends with both sides. Yeah. And then you have Melissa, Rachel Fouda who’s the new girl who’s so gorgeous. Oh my god. Rachel,

Amanda 54:08
thank you. I think me. Yes.

B 54:12
Oh my god. First I was told I look like Catherine Zeta Jones. And now I look like Rachel.

Amanda 54:18
Because I haven’t seen much of her and I was like, Oh, she looks like she reminds me of BA she looks like you.

B 54:24
Amanda, you’re my favorite person.

Amanda 54:27
We’re giving away the fact that Larry’s

B 54:28
not agreeing by the way. Oh,

Amanda 54:33
like, who who wasn’t that had awesome like because it was like one of those where it was like a wide shot on like, it looked like a

B 54:41
party. Jenny’s

Amanda 54:43
door hit you on the way out and she’s

B 54:44
like, there is no door.

Larry 54:46
Yes, it definitely is up. That’s hilarious. No, I’m looking at all their photos now.

B 54:52
Now he’s looking at the photos to confirm. I’m excited to see the new girls. I forgot what we were saying because now I’m glowing in this compliment. Okay,

Amanda 55:00
well, we think of her

Larry 55:02
so far. Oh, you said that Danielle could possibly take over Teresa, and you were then you were going over how they were in the way that there’s like stance in the group photo?

B 55:11
Well, so I had this whole theory going back, Laurie, and I don’t know if you I don’t think you and I have discussed it. But Amanda, and I had this theory that like, maybe like Danielle and Rachel, maybe it could be like a legacy, although that shit has bombed the whole legacy and Ronnie reboot, but if they planned better, they could like kind of spin off and have two shows like The OGS. And because listen, those girls so like Melissa is like the go between because Melissa is probably not that much older, like the girl Danielle is in her late 30s. I believe she’s like, 3738. But her kids are younger. Yeah. So Melissa had her kids in like her early 20s. So she’s like, 42. You know what I’m saying? Yeah, age wise, they’re not that far apart. But Amanda and I are moms. And we know that the age of your children kind of dictates who you hang with. Right? Yeah. So Rachel and Danielle, both have young children. But So Danielle is very clearly on the side. So in the photo, it’s dolo in the middle, and you have Rachel, Margaret and Melissa. That’s one team, which we know they have Jackie with them. As the friend of me. I also have Jen Fesler, because she’s a friend of Margaret. And then on the other side, you have Danielle Cabrera who’s the new girl who’s gorgeous, by the way as well. They’re all I mean, they’re all beautiful. And Jen, Aiden. And Melissa I mean, Teresa. Judy Chang. Her name? Yeah. Because he didn’t want her to because she’s more recognized as Judy che. I can’t the flags that are waving,

Amanda 56:44
right. And then there’s also they were there. They talked about Jen and her husband both being like wasted, I think was the word that they use, which I think is interesting that this is something that’s continuing to go into this season. And I don’t know, I just I kind of wonder, like, if I’m Bill, like, as much enjoyment as I got out of him seeing the poll, like wearing that polo backwards. If you’re a plastic surgeon,

B 57:21
I feel like go full length.

Amanda 57:24
Maybe not the time. Yeah, yeah, just maybe

B 57:28
I don’t know. You know, to that I say I am sure that it’s a once in a while thing. And he doesn’t have surgery for a couple of days, like you know, but what I do think is interesting is that Jen and Teresa can relate to each other because Jen is an I’m going to call it old fashioned marriage and by old fashioned I mean her husband cheats on her. And the way that it’s rumored Joe, Judy che cheated on Teresa, and they have that whole, turn your head focus on the children, family family. And from what I know from Danielle Dubrow, her and her husband have been like they’re like, you know, sweethearts, and they kind of came up together and they built this life together. And they seem very Intune and much more like a Melissa and Joe relationship and also what I see from Rachel and her husband. So I think that on the surface, they have Danielle on their team, but I think if if were to go into next season and all the same people are still around like, I can see Danielle relating much more to Melissa and Teresa.

Larry 58:28
Yeah, I yeah, I we’re gonna have to wait and see. And I I agree. Yeah, I mean, who do we know how many outcomes in as his friend?

B 58:38
What we know is that she is a girl who was on a reality show. She was on like the VH one. This is Staten Island. She is a stepdaughter of a Laurita. So she’s got a Manzo connection. And she really, really wanted to be on reality TV and she makes no she makes like she says it on her Instagram. She’s like, you know, I thought I was going to be on the show. And I wasn’t much bigger things happened. And she couldn’t come out and say but we all knew. And she vowed she just wants to be on reality TV. She wants that life. And yeah, so interesting. She kind of picked the most powerful team, which to her was Teresa,

Larry 59:18
which is interesting if she’s a Laurita. Right.

B 59:21
Well, it’s so we also talked about this. So her fault. I forgot that connection. But so you don’t Candice Laurita. Laura Manzo is best friend.

Larry 59:32
Okay, no, but

B 59:33
her dad or her mom, I forget which one is married to her dad or her mom. But they got married when Danielle and Candace were adults. So it’s like, okay, so it’s like, yeah, it’s they know each other, but it’s not like they’re from when they were kids like they were all adults. I believe that, you know, Danielle was already married. So it’s kind of like whatever and she always wanted to be on reality TV. I also saw that Danielle has a strange relationship with her Brother so that’s why she’s butting in with the Teresa and Joe thing

Amanda 1:00:03
apparently that’s interesting so maybe he’ll

B 1:00:07
come on next him they’ll completely replace the Gorga Judy Jays who knows

Larry 1:00:15
I’m so excited for the next season like let’s gonna win jerseys on like yeah it’s heavy and like they get dark and it’s like a lot of but jerseys always been about family and like like the arguments and the fighting and like the love or whatever even though there might not really there’s not really any love now between Theresa Melissa but it’s they deliver like every season that’s going I really can’t wait for them to come back. Agreed agreed.

Amanda 1:00:39
Okay, so next big Bravo moment was I mean just Beverly Hills just let’s just put it all in a bowl and mix it up because there was so much right first of all, we here let’s start with just Erika Jayne. And then you guys are all familiar because we’ve talked about this a lot with Ronald Richards who is this attorney who kind of came out of nowhere and you know does these posts always with like the red light siren he’s loves to post about Eric ajira

Larry 1:01:14
lights are so funny like I have it in my head exactly what his house look like

Amanda 1:01:21
and you know constantly commenting on Erica jeans legal stuff and then at one point was even seemingly part of it and then somehow was out but this week we found out that and I swear to God we didn’t we not I think we predicted this either we did it on the podcast or you and I talked about this

B 1:01:42
I think that you for I don’t know if you said it on the podcast but you definitely set it to me and I forget what’s recorded and what’s not. But you predicted that guy is a creep and he’s he tried to buy our house and he’s going to try to buy those earrings. I hope it was on the podcast because you got some Psych Exam

Amanda 1:01:58
and he did

Larry 1:01:59
it’s insane Yeah,

Amanda 1:02:02
it’s it is beyond creepy and it’s I think it’s like not just it’s gone way past Petey into creepy stalker eight But here’s my question. So he put down a legitimate offer for this that that house too, which was

Larry 1:02:17
when I was gonna turn it into a museum.

Amanda 1:02:21
Yeah, something weird. Yes. And then he bought this these earrings. $250,000 is a lot of money. Is anyone looking into where Ronald Richards gets all of his money?

Larry 1:02:34
He is definitely he definitely is a millionaire. Everyone. He back on the day he was on Patti singers, Millionaire Matchmaker. I think he definitely has the money whether it be from law or whatever. He’s I think he’s definitely got it.

Amanda 1:02:48
Oh, I didn’t know he was on Millionaire Matchmaker.

B 1:02:52
Yeah, Larry has all this to say is after our whole Jen shock conversation, Erica seems so sweet. And

Larry 1:03:04
I just thought it was so tacky of the wife to even tag Erica in the post.

B 1:03:09
Oh my god. And she said yeah, she’s like, they’re stunning. I know what you fought for them? Should I have Gerardi moved removed and that because it says you’re already on the earrings. And then she hashtag Gerardi for odd hashtag. Girl, you should be more concerned with your husband’s obsession with this beautiful woman. Get the hell out of here. Talk about kicking somebody when they’re down. It’s just nasty.

Larry 1:03:31
And then but the balls that you have to have to even do that. Like, that’s one like okay, like, it’s your husband’s like stick to go after her like I think he’s in today. It’s like go after her on Twitter or whatnot. But now like you’re gonna get involved like you just now you just look thirsty. Are you trying to get on TV? Does he want you to be a housewife?

B 1:03:48
Like, are you guys jealous? Right.

Larry 1:03:51
Beverly Hills was such a hot mess. I feel like it was on for that last season was like two years long. It was just insane to I’m so happy they’re taking a break before they start filming again. I think what next month you guys recorded or something like that? Yeah.

B 1:04:07
And speaking of hot mess, we have Kyle and Kathy both in Aspen. Kyle was not at Cathy’s holiday party. They were all together at the People’s Choice Awards. And then Larry, did you see the interview with Bryce Sadler on et where he’s there and Cathy’s making reads and she’s like, and I made one for Lisa. You know, she’s so easygoing.

Larry 1:04:30
Though, she had to have been kidding, she had to have been kidding.

B 1:04:34
She’s just like, goading I think she’s just like trying to get under Kyle’s skin and you know, the whole thing. I can’t get a firm answer if Kathy’s back or not because she doesn’t give a firm answer. But what I will say because my source like I don’t know they usually have good Beverly Hills. What I will say is like Kathy should just leave because Kyle is You’re a master at reality teller. 100%. Yeah, and if they’re not made up good frickin luck, Kathy.

Larry 1:05:07
Yeah, Kathy should just bow out and just leave it be like, and fix her relationship with her sister because this really is Kyle’s thing. I really can’t see them getting rid of anybody except for Diana. I mean, I know a lot of people want Rinna gone or Erica gone, but I feel like you’re gonna

B 1:05:22
happen. Yeah. people tune in to see their shit even though we complain about it.

Larry 1:05:27
And Andy loves right now. Like, loves her. So like, I can’t really see them getting rid of her. I mean, I don’t know it’s just Beverly Hills is such a hot mess to right now like Jesus.

B 1:05:39
I did here to read and Crystal might be demoted. But I think that’s all to be determined. Yeah, whole thing was chaotic. The Bots Aspen to reach robbery, I mean, these women delivered, bring them all back, give us a few months to process and bring them

Larry 1:05:52
up. And the thing was Beverly Hills to those they usually start filming like a week or two after the reunion. So they’re just thrown right back into it. They don’t have time to process everything, where if you give them a few months now and then they go back into filming, they could be in a completely, totally different spot, you know,

B 1:06:08
and we saw them all to get the People’s Choice Awards brand. What the source told me was that we’re not going to know the cast until after the new year. So all the stuff that we’ve been getting, and we’ve been reading, it’s been nothing’s coming firm until the new year and even then we may not hear someone if to reach demoted, or you know what I’m saying? Is that all plays out.

Larry 1:06:28
And yeah, they probably they can make the decision to demote her or keeper until like the absolute end when they like, have their stories and everything in place and see how maybe other people performed because it’s going to be the same thing like with Jackie from Jersey, she it was announced pretty early on that she was demoted. But she was like I’ve been filming every day. I’ve been filming the entire time and they don’t make those decisions until the end so well. I mean, it’s possible. We may not even know who will be full time until they’re done. True.

Amanda 1:06:53
I don’t know. I agree with you though, Larry. I feel like this season aged me. I just felt older and more tired.

B 1:07:02
I now wiser.

Larry 1:07:04
Yes, it was a lot. It really was a lot.

B 1:07:07
I’m still basking in my compliment, Amanda. Oh,

Amanda 1:07:12
I love it. I love it. Well, okay, so what else we have? I mean, there was a lot of I feel like we have to like kind of put summer house, Southern charm winter house kind of in together now because there’s so much overlap between all of them. What do you guys like? What were some of your favorite moments? I know that some of the readers said, Luke and Ashley hooking up at Bravo Khan has been a top moment. We know that she just shared him on her grid and a picture of his mom gifting her cookies and his maple syrup has been all over her Instagram.

B 1:07:49
I don’t see them. I don’t see them going the long haul. I think that there’s a lot of lust there. I think there’s some looking for attention. If I’m being honest, I think that Ashley is newly single and wants to be dropped like it’s hot with a hot guy. And so that’s her angle. And Luke’s not currently filming anything. And his best friend’s one of the top PR people as far as I’m concerned. Lindsey Hubbard. So I think the two of them are just having fun together and they’re capitalizing off it because the counter going nuts and they’re getting attention from Bravo and watch what happens live. And you know, Luke could have been made irrelevant and Ashley’s keeping him relevant. Larry, what do you

Larry 1:08:36
I agree, I don’t see them going the long haul. I mean, I’d be surprised if they did I think that they are both very attractive people that are just having fun and they’re probably having a lot of really good sex. So I’m actually deserves it after having like,

B 1:08:52
for how many years so

Larry 1:08:53
I’m happy for her that she’s just out there like living her life. I mean, good for her. Because Luke, let me tell you in person that man is so fine. It is insane.

B 1:09:05
And he’s chiseled? Yes. Like a

Larry 1:09:07
statue. Like

Amanda 1:09:08
groove back girl. I’m happy for her.

Larry 1:09:10
I know I am too. I did love that when Robin commented on that post. Because that is this your boyfriend like so it makes me wonder like, is she is she telling people that’s her boyfriend? Ie I mean, even if she is saying that that’s her boyfriend? I mean, I can’t see them getting married. But why? I don’t know either one of them. So like, what do I do? I’m just going off of what we see like on Instagram, but hey, if she’s having a hot take over the long haul, I’m here for it. I like Oh, same.

Amanda 1:09:36
Totally. Okay, what about well, how about the stuff that’s happening after the season where we keep getting questions about Paige and Craig,

Larry 1:09:46
if I get asked about this, I get one more DM about paging Craig, I’m going to lose my mind. Like I don’t know how many times I have to tell these people. They don’t post each other Under grid, they have only maybe done it twice and Paige definitely maybe only two or three times at most like it’s in she I think she’s like an honest she finds it funny. She talks about it on giggly squad. She like mentioned it a couple episodes ago where she was like I told Paige, or she’s like I told Craig, I asked him if we should address this because everyone on the internet thinks that we’re broken up. And then she was like, man, let them think what they want what they’re clearly.

B 1:10:25
And Amanda and I spoke about this last part. I think it’s a hit it Lindsay and Carl because I think it’s like them being like we have two solid brands with or without each other. Because when there was all that talk about them getting together because to make a bigger splash, right? Yeah. And then Lindsay and Carl got together. And the same was said about them. And they very much have written themselves together. I feel like they’re purposely being the antithesis to that. Yeah. And we know there’s no love lost between those couples.

Larry 1:10:54
So none whatsoever.

B 1:10:56
I just left because I keep saying like, I get it and I’m like they’re fine. And then the same person messages like be No, I’m like, Alright,

Larry 1:11:05
I died. When you posted that thing of her on the escalator. Was it today? And you’re like, they’re very much together. Like, I probably got a couple 100 DMS asking if they had broken up. I was like, you’ve got to be kidding me. Right now.

Amanda 1:11:19
They also they don’t live in the same city. And I mean, doesn’t everyone not? Is everyone not just like crazy busy in December with holiday parties and work events. And there’s just so much that happens this month. That doesn’t shock me one bit that they’re there. They haven’t been able to be together as often as usual. So,

B 1:11:41
and they were together because they were together on Thanksgiving. And yeah, he was she was with him when they went to the restaurant opening. But she wanted to stay home because she was shot from work. So like,

Larry 1:11:51
could you stand up and he was there and her birthday, they just don’t really care to post a lot about each other. And I mean, they put so much of their relationship on all of their shows, like give them a little bit of like Grace, like keeping some shit to themselves. Everything that they really post is business and like get the bag good for you. Totally.

B 1:12:12
Larry, thoughts on Danielle and Robert split.

Larry 1:12:15
Oh, my God. We still haven’t gotten confirmation from them.

B 1:12:21
But enough accounts reposted it that if they wanted to say kind of yes, she posted today that like a picture of her tree with the sign in the background, which I think Amanda’s assumption is right, which is that there was no like cheating or huge thing it was that their schedules were conflicting to the point where they were like, Let’s take a break. I personally think that Danielle probably was pushing for the ring. Come on. Listen, I’m a woman, my former best friend who I’m now beefing with got engaged. My ex boyfriend and my boyfriend of two years isn’t putting a ring on it. I still say I can see them getting back

Larry 1:12:57
together. Yeah,

B 1:12:58
I think with the ring.

Larry 1:13:00
Yeah, if they take a little bit of time apart to figure it out. Maybe that’s why they’re not making an announcement because they just don’t know like, what’s going to happen in the future. They don’t owe it to us to make an announcement either. Like it is what it is. Hey, do you think so? I mean, to me, I’m like, I

B 1:13:17
don’t really think so. But I think so.

Larry 1:13:20
Unless she starts dating somebody else then. I mean, yeah, but I mean, he’s constantly traveling every season he’s at another restaurant for his the company that he works for. I can see her getting a little bit annoyed with it and not being able to see him like all the time. I’m I really thought that they were like going to be endgame for each other. So I’m a little I’m upset to like, I think they still like, Yeah,

B 1:13:43
I think that there are some changes that need to be made on his schedule. And if he’s willing to do that, because I think that he loves her. I think that I don’t think that’s a thing. Yeah, I don’t peg him as a cheater or her as a cheater. I just I mean, who wants to be with somebody who’s on the other side of the country? Half the year,

Larry 1:14:01
right? I wish it would come to the point where he could like, have his own restaurant like in New York City and then like they can just live happily ever after.

Amanda 1:14:10
Agreed. And maybe they will to your point B and maybe they will find their ways back to each other. I hope so. Cuz I like I think they Yeah. At least on camera. They seem to fit well. All right, Larry, do you watch Miami, don’t you?

Larry 1:14:25
Yes.

Amanda 1:14:28
Okay, I just double check. Oh, God. Yes. It’s so good. You know.

B 1:14:35
Miami more than we ever could right, Laurie?

Larry 1:14:37
God it’s so good.

B 1:14:39
Those are like his Auntie’s. Oh,

Amanda 1:14:42
excuse me his tears. Oh, I love that. Okay, so it’s been a been talk about coming out of the gate strong. I just finally caught up. Which love you Bravo. I mean peacock for giving us so Many but I mean, getting getting that many watch in December was a bit of a challenge for me I had to rewatch a few things because I not because it was boring, but I just kept falling asleep. But at the end, that’s my pattern lately. But Did anybody catch? I want to say it was maybe episode three or four. When the group is out and Lisa talking about how you know strong her relationship is with Lenny. I think they were on a boat. They’re outside somewhere. I’m blanking on where they were. But Kiki is sitting kind of next to her and she’s giving the side eye the whole time.

Larry 1:15:42
Yeah, she did not believe it.

Amanda 1:15:44
Oh, like I mean, what do you guys think? Do you think like she or any of the other housewives knew something? Either that Lisa didn’t or that maybe Lisa just wasn’t ready to admit it to herself.

Larry 1:15:58
I feel like with people like that in Miami, they’re like so social. They probably know a lot of people. A lot of them all know the same people there were probably definitely rumblings of stuff going on and I don’t think anyone took it to Lisa because she would probably a freak out or just be be in denial. So I wouldn’t I mean, it’s like, it’s like anywhere really right like you I mean, I’m sure people you guys have heard rumors of like maybe your friends doing something like Oh God, like I just would rather not like get in the middle of it. I can definitely see them knowing something and then kind of just like shrugging it off like and well shall shall learn.

B 1:16:36
Also know about Lenny’s quote unquote, emotional affair with that girl Morgan, I heard a lot before Miami came back that they had a somewhat open marriage or a turn to turn a blind eye marriage. And I think the ladies kind of allude to that with these young girls at the parties. I don’t think Lisa ever thought he would leave her for one of these girls. I am not saying she accepted what he did. I just think that she sort of it was what it was.

Larry 1:17:06
I feel so bad for her like it just due to such a he’s such a dirtbag it like he’s such a derby. Oh, my God. But like, I mean, you know what, like, it’s probably been going on for years. This isn’t like, it’s she wasn’t the first obviously we know that. This girl is not going to be the last he’s gonna do the same thing to her. Like it’s, it’s he has that complex or like, he was probably like a dork when he was younger, and now he has money. And as

B 1:17:38
somebody sent me something that said, I don’t know why you’re not getting more of this. But just so you know, Lenny was a frickin weirdo. Like, something’s a little off with him. Weird personality. And when Lisa came around, she was the fun one, she was the party one, he would pay for people to go out and get the limos and get all this. And then when he met Lisa, he got this social life because of Lisa. And people always thought he was a weirdo. And so whatever. I think that he has, because of Lisa and these parties and whatever, he has had access to things. And it got out of hand and now he left her for somebody. Right. I think that Lisa probably thought once we have kids that will calm down. And even last season, he wanted every third kid remember? Yeah. So even

Larry 1:18:28
remember the seasons prior, like when they were on 10 years ago, he’s still was kind of like a little weird. So this has been going on I feel like for a very, very long time.

B 1:18:36
And I honestly think the reason he went public with the girls because he knows what was picked up on camera this season. And he was kind of like, alright, the gig is up. So let me just get out. Yeah.

Larry 1:18:45
I mean, those guys always think that it’s gonna be like, the grass is greener on the other side. And then you get to the other side and look at it like now the entire world is against you and you are a loser.

B 1:18:56
And like, no, no, Mommy is going for money. Mommy Makeover with that piece of shit.

Larry 1:19:01
Right now.

B 1:19:01
Nobody did good work, which rumor has it I mean, we’ve seen

Larry 1:19:06
I can see people boycotting his plastic surgery business in support of Lisa like literally

Amanda 1:19:13
100% We talked about this, like, I don’t know, quite a while ago when we first started hearing that they were getting divorced. And I mean, Lisa, if you’re listening, and you didn’t hear this before, I mean, she I think has a very legitimate claim to you know, helping build his business. It’s because of her that he got, you know, so much attention on Bravo. You know, I think she’s really she was one who even coined him. The boob king or boo what’s boop, boop boop go God, but all of that right. So like, I just I hope that she has somebody who has a very strong fight. financial background and can really help. I mean, I wouldn’t even imagine that they could go back and look at his business and see a definite spike from the first few seasons from before, you know, before and then to when when she started to be on the show, and they could probably see a good downward attorney for sure. And again, right, right because of her that she was

B 1:20:27
the one that gave Erica that Erica didn’t want, right?

Amanda 1:20:31
Yeah, I will say

B 1:20:32
she does the top two right now Potomac and Miami. I will say I see it and not that we’ve seen it. But I see the writing on the wall that once Lisa and Larson make up which we know they do, because once Lenny like acts a fool, or she’s got her girls back, yeah, the divide between old and new Miami, we’ve seen it in the media. We see that Alexia comes out she did an interview. She was very critical of both Nicole and Gertie, and then I just saw a Marisol and Larissa throwing shade at Nicole and her fiance Anthony. Oh, he’s not a real pilot. Well, he really owns a plane. So

Larry 1:21:10
right I saw that I was like he never claimed to be a pilots who actually said

B 1:21:14
he actually said in that episode, you know, I’m not actually a pilot. I’m like doing a favor I have to go to work. Right? I think that by the

Amanda 1:21:23
way. His plane on the side of it has his business in like insurance lawyers or whatever. On the side of the plane. It’s clearly a company plane that he flies as a hobby and for fun and was like trying to do something fun for his fiancee. I don’t think anybody is like, Oh, you don’t fly for United?

B 1:21:45
Wait, you don’t have a Jet Blue certificate. Like the hate is real. But listen, I love Miami. And the thing with Miami is I like all the ladies. So same

Larry 1:21:54
Yeah, me too. I do too. It’s like they all they all bring it I’m

B 1:22:00
I was the one I was on the fence about but now knowing that she had that fallout with Lisa and knowing that she was such a soldier for her throughout their split. It made me like her more.

Amanda 1:22:11
I am not loving the Juliet story like the cows.

Larry 1:22:15
Oh my god. I know if I have to hear about the goats one more time.

B 1:22:18
Larry hear from writing? Do you milk cows? No, I

Larry 1:22:22
don’t even there’s not even a farm near me.

Amanda 1:22:27
I just I think that I guess what I was thinking is more of a like her crying about it being an empty NASS and like, nothing’s really changed that much from last year to this year. Like,

B 1:22:38
yes, there has now she needs a storyline.

Amanda 1:22:41
Right? Because it her daughter was like, what’s what’s the name of my school? Right? And she couldn’t see it. So I’m like,

B 1:22:48
shady editors when every time

Larry 1:22:51
I feel like people can’t wait for kids to like, leave the house, because then you can actually start living again. Like she should be going to and I’m not a parent. So what do I know? But I mean, you guys have kids like, can’t you? I bet you can’t wait for them to go to college. So most

B 1:23:05
of the unhappy marriage, which is what I see. And I heard that there’s another divorce down the pipe. And it’s sort of like, Listen, if you have a happy marriage, yes, Larry, because like for me, I’m like, my husband and I are like, Alright, so we have how many years? We have a lot of

Larry 1:23:22
kids are out and about, like I know, when the kids are doing so much more.

B 1:23:31
We’re like, where are we moving? Where are we getting our like, well, we have our property in Florida, but we’re you know, we want another property. I’m just saying like, what if I guess your marriage isn’t good. Then the focus becomes like, Oh, God, I gotta look at this person.

Larry 1:23:45
Right? And when she’s like, Oh, no, no, we’re not doing dinners for two. What do you mean? Like, you should be going out to dinner? Traveling, like doing all this stuff with your like your spouse and you don’t even want to go to like, you don’t even want to cook dinner or you have dinner with them alone. Like, girl, it might mean that look, you need to do some inner soul searching. When the carpool

B 1:24:07
works out that both my kids are at sports and we’re not driving them or like pop the bottle. Right? Take in some shrimp. Like you know. I don’t know. But I hope we’re wrong about that. I hope it’s just editing but I don’t think so. I think there’s trouble in paradise. Larry, you’re the best. We are running very over. I honestly go for another

Larry 1:24:32
hour and a half. Yeah, same. Yeah.

B 1:24:35
Cocktail hours have had it with us. I think they’re like, although no, maybe it’s like after Christmas and they’re like, cursing at oh my god, I did this thing with like, what’s the worst gifts you ever had? And it may be like, shocked,

Larry 1:24:50
but then there was this one word is

B 1:24:54
there was one wait so listen to this. So there was one I want to get your opinions and this is where this is going to be our unknown. Okay. So this girl is like my I’m 26 and my husband got me a handicapped bar for the shower. And like, a lot of followers messaged me and they’re like, I think that was a sex handle. And when she didn’t get it he like kind of just backed off it. What do you guys think?

Amanda 1:25:17
What is that? What got her

B 1:25:20
like a bar for the shower to like, hold on to but she’s like, I’m a 26 year old. I’m not handicapped. Like I don’t know why he got this. Oh,

Larry 1:25:27
that was definitely a shower fun.

B 1:25:29
Right, so I didn’t get it. Listen, I woke up saw it posted it and then everyone was like, this girl does not realized but you need to tell her that it was for shower. Fine. I’m like, I’m not gonna frickin tell her. If we’re listening. You know, now, I will never say your name. I’m just saying like, you guys think that was for shower fun, right? Because it made

Larry 1:25:48
sense. Yeah.

Amanda 1:25:50
Yeah. I mean, especially if she’s like in her 20s. Because like, I think of those is like, for people who are like older and aging in place in their homes and need for stability getting in and out of the shower. Or they just need something to hold on to during during sex.

B 1:26:07
Right. So I think that she missed the memo is now my responsibility. Should I reach out or should I let sleeping dogs lie?

Larry 1:26:16
I would I would reach out and be like, did you ever think that maybe he wanted to install it so you guys can have a little bit of fun in the shower. And if she hasn’t installed it? Now.

B 1:26:26
I’m going to tell her listen, you’d better start bagging on those banjos in the shower.

Amanda 1:26:31
Sometimes people do just need a little bit of an explanation like clearly Urban Dictionary type terms. You heard him talking about that actually on Miami this week, right like hilarious.

B 1:26:46
Next year was trying to say Carl I was telling my husband this and he was and he doesn’t watch like you know he really doesn’t watch much housewives but he was let he’s like, You have like dying laughing I was like Carl work. I thought Todd was a gringo name. But what Carl ah,

Larry 1:27:03
the via the Dirty Sanchez when Kiki was like, Don’t you know you should know what Sanchez? Yes, yes, that was. Oh, god. I love all right, Larry.

B 1:27:14
We love you. Thank you so much for coming.

Larry 1:27:17
Oh my god. Of course. I can literally chat with you guys all day long. Thanks for having me. Well, we do. I know.

B 1:27:24
We love you Laurie till next time cocktail crew.

Amanda 1:27:27
And Happy New Year, guys. Oh, yeah. Happy. Happy.

B 1:27:31
Happy Hanukkah. Merry Christmas. And Merry everything. I’m sure I left somebody out. And I apologize.

Amanda 1:27:39
Thanks, guys.

Amanda 1:27:47
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B 1:28:28
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