205. RHOA newbies; There’s a warrant out for Monkey; RHORI: We love mess

205. RHOA newbies; There’s a warrant out for Monkey; RHORI: We love mess

Our thoughts on the Real Housewives of Atlanta newbies. And Drew Sidora’s ex makes how much more money than her? We have questions about this. Real Housewives of Rhode Island is a chaotic mess and we are loving every minute. The cheating podiatrist’s mistress is giving us Fatal Attraction vibes and now the cheating podiatrist is suing her. Listen to find out why he’s suing. And we have a little tea on how Rulla and her cheating podiatrist husband started their romance. Once again, how you get ’em is how you lose ’em. And, one of the people featured on the show has seven felony charges against him in a case that’s ongoing. Thank you, Bravo for sharing this with us. We love mess. And we have some more intel on West and Amanda and the ongoing Summer House debacle.

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The silence spoke volumes. He didn’t deny that he was still seeing the woman. He admitted the affair, but he didn’t shut Joellen down, and she was like, you didn’t have an affair. You are having an affair. You’re still with this woman, and Brian’s Cat’s got his tongue. And I felt terrible for Rula in that moment. She’s just sitting there, and what it gave me was Shannon and David bedor vibes when they joined, and they were the show, and they were clearly in a very disjointed marriage, and that is the feeling that I have with yeah and Brian. S Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from Bravo and cocktails.com and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. A I’m B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s team. Amanda cocktails. How are you guys? A What is up? Everybody on a high, I feel like from last night’s zoom B. How are you doing? Okay, I’m not hung over. I think I was just excited. I did have three glasses of wine, but I stopped. I don’t know what I was very activated. Was it crazy? That was just no A and to be clear, I had my husband, like, snuck in and brought me a cocktail, and it was, like, so strong. So I felt a little tipsy. I had it towards the end too, but it was just one of those nights where I felt like we could have gone for another two hours. Another two hours without stopping. We did go a long time over and just so you guys know, the reason we don’t do that is because we know that people have a million things to do, and so we don’t want to put the pressure on of you guys not coming because you feel like it’s this long commitment where so we keep it to an hour almost always, A yeah, and I don’t want people to feel too like they had, they missed out if they did have to hop off right at the hour time.

But there was just, there was no stopping us last day. Oh my gosh. It was so good. So many people DM me and they were like, that was the best zoom party. I was like, it was, it’s a party. A It is. It really is. So welcome to all. And the other thing that was, I thought interesting. There were obviously new cocktails on there, but there were a lot of longtime cocktails. We were like, This is the first one I was finally able to make. And yes, we love that. We love that. Okay, so much to talk about, but wanted to first say that we haven’t talked about Atlanta yet, and I just finished the second episode, so I’m curious Kennedy can to get your take on what you think, especially of the new ladies, because I have never watched Love and Hip Hop. And so Kay Michelle is I’ve heard of her, but I’d never really watched her. She’s new to me. And then Pinky Cole, we’ve been writing a lot about her, and I knew about her just as an entrepreneur. What are you thinking? So far, I’m loving both pinky and K Michelle. So you guys know I was a huge Love and Hip hop fan. I was a fan of K Michelle’s on the show. And if you guys are familiar with Love and Hip Hop, you know that their drama makes most housewife drama look very tame, because they really go wild, like, Bad Girls Club style. So I don’t know if you’re a Love and Hip hop fan. So like, things get physical. Things get physical, yeah, like, just very reactive, like, got it pushing, or it doesn’t even get physical, but like the security comes in and separates and they’re screaming, like it goes to the next level, which sometimes happens on housewives.

But you can see that the women on housewives. And what I noticed, what where I knew this was true, was like they’re told not to do that on housewives, and sometimes it does happen, but by and large, so the scene where you have Kelly K Michelle and Portia, and everybody’s nice, and Porsche very nicely points out that she knows that Kelly had sex with a married man. A Do you believe that? I don’t believe it. I don’t believe it, but I believe that Portia A got that text. Yeah. I believe Porsche wanted to get Kelly back. I believe there may be some sort of gray area with people whom Kelly has hooked up with, meaning legally married, yeah, or long term significant other. I believe there may be some gray area because Kelly wasn’t denying it 10 toes down, she was more like this. Situation is not true, but if you what I noticed was Kay Michelle watching it and almost being like, she said something where it was, wait. We’re not allowed to do this on this show. And then they got up and hugged each other, and she’s wait. So this is what we do. Like, it was so funny, because it really showed right there that production is very seriously. We are not fighting. We’re not physically fighting. We’re not having to call security over, like, this kind of. Thing, yeah, I love K Michelle. K Michelle, first of all, I love country music, and I love that she’s like, getting into it because she’s A always wanted to, which I thought was really interesting, and that she’d been told by the record labels that she couldn’t.

That is so interesting. And I really hope that this exposure affords her the glow up in the country space, because I will certainly download stream, whatever you do to make artists profitable these days, I don’t know, because you can’t buy their album, right? But her health issue so she, years ago, she got butt implants or bbl. I don’t know what it is, but she’s had a lot of health issues with them. So when she was in, she said A illegal silicone injections, like she’s had so many health issues. So to me, I just I see both her and pinky being like, so real and so raw. And they’re big names. They’re not nobody. So when someone like that comes on the show and is so honest about themselves, it ups the ante for all of the women to be authentic. Pinky off the bat, sharing her, which good for her, because before Atlanta even started, it started leaking in TMZ, in the press, and we’re all posting and like, liens on Prop. And she was totally transparent from the jump. So it isn’t where, like Angela, when she came on last year, all of her financial issues, she didn’t really talk about. No, you A know what, I’m not upfront about it. She started to talk once she got pinned down, but she was not, she was not up front. And I agree that makes it sets a much better tone for them both to come in and just say, Here you go. Yeah, and like, from the Marge, I always credit Margaret Josephs, because I just remember her doing it so well that her first season, she came on and she’s okay. Here’s all the stuff people could say about me.

I cheated on my husband. I left them. I married the plumber. He was married. So broke up two marriages, a couple of my step kids don’t speak to me as a result, and anything else A like what you got? Yeah, so put it on the table. I also really think he’s husband, and I know that so many of the men on housewives are trash. And I hope he doesn’t disappoint me, because he’s successful in his own right. I find him very cute. I think they’re a super cool couple pinkies. Jamaican, my sister in law’s Jamaican, though I love that whole part of it. One thing I want to say to you, I want to get your thoughts on all of that, but how shocked Are you that Ralph makes over $20,000 a month? Oh, my God, A thank you, because I actually was gonna ask you the same question, Did I read actually that he makes 70 a month? I feel like I read what it was that she makes. A How is she living on 12,000 a month? These movies must really not be paying very much. I all of it feels very shocking to me. Only does it make sense in that I feel like Drew is never honest with us, but I would feel like even just from her housewife’s salary, she should be making at least 12,000 a month. My guests are flabbered. I How is Ralph? Was his book successful? Didn’t he write a book? A It can’t be the book. Oh, I don’t know. I just that just popped into him. He is a very handsome man, if he never opened his mouth for the rest of his life. And I believe he’s quite fit. I don’t know. Is it only A fans video that I don’t know?

I don’t go on there, sure? You know? A Is it just pictures? I don’t know, did I just out myself as a Ralph only fan subscriber? A Now I feel like I need to look okay, so I had to look it up. Drew sodora earns roughly $12,066 per month, while her estranged husband Ralph Pittman earns $71,524 monthly, nearly six times her income. And what I read about the custody issue is, while I think it is wild, apparently when they were in her care, they were late or absent from school a lot. Yeah, yeah. And that is a problem. That is such a big problem. Oh, I’m not saying it’s not. I’m just okay. It says A white men works in tech. Is only fan stuck it technically is, I don’t think he’s in Silicon Valley writing code. I mean, he knows, maybe, you know what? Maybe he’s a really bright guy who does some sort of online thing, making programs. I don’t know. We don’t know about it. Yeah, what did he brag about that? Though it is interesting. A It all is interesting. I don’t know. My thought is, Drew has never been super truthful with us as an audience or her co stars, so I always take everything that she says with a bit of a grain of salt. But again, it was so shocking that Ralph makes six times as much money as she does. Yeah, like, seriously, what is her income on housewives? And it’s got to be at least 100,000 at least, because this is her, what fourth year? Maybe that’s like bulk payment. I don’t know. I don’t know. Maybe her. Lawyers were creative with how they did the math. I don’t know. Maybe she had some setup with the network where it was a I don’t know.

A Yeah, we’ll cover Atlanta more as we get into it a little bit. But the season is good if you’re not watching watch. I think it’s great. Yeah, I think Angela is putting a better foot forward. I think, I think her making up with Phaedra was really good. Another thing I noticed is it was very obvious that production told them a lot of you ladies got to mend these face fences. We can’t have everybody beefing. A Yeah, obvious. Yeah, yeah. I would agree with you on that. And I also think that the guy that Portia had at this couple’s dinner, it was not a boyfriend that he was. He did great, and it wasn’t anything about him. But I then she brings sway, literally, the next episode, when there had only been a week, like, I think she and sway. That’s kind of other thing about Drew, how Drew. Made a comment like, Oh, you’re living how I live my life. Oh, yeah. All been speculating, and of course, the woman’s name is gonna escape me now, TJ, Taj tysh And I believe Ty used to date Mimi from Love and Hip Hop, so we got all the crossover. Listen, this is all Atlanta. So Candy’s best friends with Rashida, like the Love and Hip Hop and Atlanta housewives crossover in real life is really real because they’re reality stars who are in the industry, and Atlanta so big, so A I don’t know, Drew if you’re listening, if you would just be more honest about what’s really going on with you. I think we would all like you more a lot. I just don’t believe I just anything. She says. I just don’t really, I don’t really believe her.

And Shamia looks, I want shamias body now she looks, she is such an insanely gorgeous woman. She is. They’re all gorgeous. There’s not like every one of them is gorgeous, but there’s work, and there is work, and Shamia has some good work on that body, holy. She’s worked out too. She’s strong and fit, but that butt and those boobs, like it is so well proportioned, A she looks, yeah, she really does look amazing. Okay, let’s talk about Rhode Island, because it’s just been utter chaos in the best way. Of course, we have been talking about Rhode Island for a while, and so we’ve we had shared quite a while ago that we had intel about most of them. But let’s start with Rula. She is married to Brian, the cheating podiatrist, so this last episode, she has a bunch of her Lebanese friends over to discuss her husband’s affair. You and I are being students of the show. I think it was probably her way of bringing it to camera before she had to deal with it with the other women. So like more of a safe environment, but that she’s being open about it. But then we have Joe Ellen in another scene, sitting outside before Liz’s party, saying to Joe Ellen, saying to her husband, rula’s husband, Brian, who also was a podiatrist, but also owns a med spa, or owned a med spa that he called and made a complaint to HR at Joe Ellen’s job, because Joe Ellen had been talking About Brian’s affair. So we see Joellen telling her husband Gary about this, and she tells him, like, essentially, I’ll screw you to her husband if you confront rula’s husband at the party.

So we get to Liz’s party for her husband, Jerry. So we’ve got Jerry who is married to Liz. We’ve got Gary who’s married to Joe Ellen? This party is insane. No. Oh, Jerry’s married. Jerry is married to Liz. A Brian’s married to Rula. Brian is married to Rula. Gary is married to Joe Ellen. We’re gonna get all this, but it’s just we got to reinforce it a little bit, as we’re still getting to know everybody here. This party is over the top. The house is absolutely gorgeous. Oh, my God, it’s it was like The Great Gatsby with the sea wall. A Yeah, exactly. So when there’s a whole thing with Liz that happens around this party, before this party, at this party, we’ll talk about that in a minute. But during the party, Joellen and Gary do a sit down with Rula and Brian and confront them about them trying to affect Joe Ellen’s job. And I am going to give Joe Ellen and Gary huge props for their gangster behavior, because in what world is his affair, which is being gossiped about by everybody because he’s having an affair with a woman who, and we’ll get to all that is posting online and outing everything and wants everyone to know about the affair, but somehow it’s Joe Ellen’s fault, which I can totally appreciate. If Rula, or even Brian, contacted Joe Ellen and her husband and were like, Hey, could you guys like, stop talking about it? But to mess with somebody’s livelihood and employment is so foul, considering they haven’t done anything. So the cheating podiatrist husband says absolutely nothing.

So awkward. A lot of people were in my DM saying it looked like the two of them had been skiing up a very deep slope down a very deep slope. I don’t know, but the silence spoke volumes. He didn’t deny that he was still seeing the woman. He admitted the affair, but he didn’t shut Joellen down. And she was like, you didn’t have an affair. You are having an affair. You’re still with this woman, and Brian’s Cat’s got his tongue. And I felt terrible for Rula in that moment. She’s just sitting there, and what it gave me was Shannon and David bedor vibes when they joined, and they were the show, and they were clearly in a very disjointed marriage. And that is the feeling that I have with Yeah, Lula and Brian. A It’s funny that you bring that up, because I was thinking it reminded me of Kelsey Grammer and Camille. This man, the cheating podiatrist, gave he gave literally nothing at the table, which was so strange to me, and then it was absolute crickets in the car. So was he worried? Was he worried at that time what the Mistress would think if he lied and said that? Like, why wouldn’t he deny that the affair was still going on? It was so strange, yeah? Why mentally checked out? Maybe right and right, right? Why not try to lie, even if Joellen then whipped out receipts or something? Why not attempt to lie? I feel I’m seeing a man who’s checked out and who doesn’t give a shit. That’s what I’m seeing. Yeah? So fast forward to this week. I receive a picture of the mistress in what appears to be her having a photo shoot at rule is house.

So she posted this February 3 same cocktail. Writes back a little while later, they’re like, holy shit. Be February 3 ruler posted from the Berkshires. So she was away with Bravo filming the girls trip, which, by the way, is going to be on our screens in August. Side note, yes. So I’m like, huh, February, 3, February. I do a side by side. I get flooded with the Lebanese friends and family who are at that table start DMing me, and they’re like, this picture is from 2023 so I said, Okay, thank you for the it was snowing in February. I said, Thank you for the clarification. The fact remains that on February 3, she posted it to get under Rule is skin. Now, in 2023 there was a party at the house for the Med Spa. So this woman is a very well known esthetician. She, I’m told she co owned, or had a financial interest in the med spa, owned by Brian. She was at their house in 2023 for a party. I’m gonna guess it was a Christmas party, because it was December since I’m told the Med Spa closed down for a time, I believe it’s reopened. She’s no longer a part of it. She was also married at the time. I don’t believe she is anymore. So part of her wanting to keep posting and getting this out could be because her own marriage dissolved as a result of the affair. That could be a factor. Or she’s just still hung up on Brian, or she’s obsessed with the fact that they’re on Bravo, because she keeps tagging Bravo and hashtagging A messy like hashtag R, H, O, R, I full on associating herself with the show.

But all of this has proven Joellen to be truthful, that she learned about this from the internet. But another thing to note is that Joellen works in med, spa, Esthetician, whatever that is, that world. She works as a sales girl. She knows all the injectors. She knows the mistress. Everybody knows about this. So what they’re mad about is clearly that Joellen brought it to camera, as if it wouldn’t have come out anyway. A And again, justice for Joellen in this case, because Joellen knew reached out to, I think it was Liz or Alicia, I can’t remember who then told Rula that Joellen had seen these pictures, because Joe Ellen also knew this woman, because our kids went to the same preschool, and so she sees this, and then so she has the pictures rule up, begs her please, woman to woman I really want to know, and then is pissed, because jolin’s Okay. I sent it to you like you asked, and now, now you’re mad, and it’s just a classic shoot the medicine neuro situation, but the woman that the cheating podiatrist has had an affair with like this is giving a little fatal attraction to me. This woman is absolutely shameless, and the foot doctor looks like a foot so that’s weird. A He’s not that big of a prize. Ladies fight over, I don’t know, not him. I don’t know the fact that he did not go the extra mile to make it clear that it’s over, even just privately to Rula, I would understand if he’s I don’t need to tell everybody else what’s going on in my personal life right now. I don’t need to justify myself.

But personally, privately in the car that he didn’t say anything that man. News, it’s trash. He’s trash for cheating. He’s trash for acting this way after the affair. But that’s not all a man. DMS, me and Rhode Island residents, we love you. Please keep sending us this juice. Don’t stop. If I had a guess, I would say this was rula’s first husband, because he simply let me know that Rula and Brian got together through cheating on their significant others. He used the word significant others. So I don’t know if one of them was married and one of them was in a relationship or what have you, but he said, Yeah, this is how their relationship started. They cheated on their significant others and got together. The person said, once you cheat, always a cheat. And on the show, Rula does point out that she doesn’t want to talk about her first marriage, right? A Oh, the math is math thing, and that her parents were upset about it cheating. Yeah, I wonder if the first husband was Lebanese and Brian wasn’t, and that was part of why A they were upset. Oh, that could be we say it. Almost every episode, how you get them is how you lose them. It does not stand to reason to me that if you start a relationship where you’re both cheating, that your new husband will never cheat on you. That just is that is never going to make sense to me, ever, because I think how you’re going to miss how you lose them. Okay, so one other thing about all of this is we got a cocktail or who sent in yesterday that there is now a breach of contract lawsuit on the table between Brian and the ex mistress.

So all we saw was, like the first page of the filing, it doesn’t really say much any detail about what the suit is actually about. We’ll keep on top of that and update you all. Somebody said it could be just a non compete issue. It’s really hard to tell at this point, but well, and then I did get something I forgot. Did I post it yet? Or did I send it to you? I’ll find it. You keep going. Okay, yeah, A if there’s anything there that would be interesting. But last week, we mentioned something about a housewife having a connection to John Gotti, and that was cleared up, but I still want to talk about it, because it said the goddaughter of John Gotti was interviewing to be casted, was at some of these parties, including this one that we just watched. Her name is Monique pass, married to ex NFL player Patrick pass. You guys will remember he’s also the guy who was an ex Patriot player who was accused of assaulting an 80 year old man at Planet Fitness. I remember us talking about this very clearly on the pod. I want to say it was even last summer. It’s been a while, so I, of course, got curious. I looked at her Instagram, and she is not hiding her ties to John Gotti. She’s posted pictures with him on her John Gotti, Junior, I assume John Gotti, well, I think or from A there was one it was like about him being in heaven, senior. So I think that would be senior, but I don’t know very much about the I know that the old John Gotti said, but I don’t know anything about the rest of his family.

But then she also posted this bizarre, mobbish animated video of her that shows her pointing at gun. I am guessing there are many, maybe multiple things that gave Bravo pause as far as including her in the cast, I would say so yeah, there are other alleged mob ties on Rhode Island that are linked to Dino, who is the friend of Liz. And so if you guys will remember, Liz got really upset because she wanted to show everybody during this party that she and her husband, I’m thinking Jerry, that she and Jerry and Dino are all just good friends, and everything’s okay, and she didn’t feel like she got to do that. But Dino, like there’s a lot about him that he has something like seven charges, felony charges against him. This case is still open. Let me tell you a little bit about what we found. So there’s a local paper that says Dino Gill met is a gilmet. I’m gonna, I’m gonna do my best and say that’s gold Meddy gilmetty, maybe a former boxer and actor who the police say has ties to the New England, La Costa Nostra, which is one of the mafia, yeah, the mob that he’s falling he’s facing these felony charges. You guys will remember he also had a child with Aaron Hernandez, the Patriots players, former fiance, Cheyenne Jenkins, one of the documents filed says that there was an affidavit that outlines the claims that the state police made that he is directly tied to key players in the mob. Is a significant. Significant figure in cocaine trafficking in the region, that there are five confidential informants who provided all of this information for the investigation.

But long story short, essentially, these charges are have to do with him allegedly selling and distributing large quantities of cocaine, bringing it in through the port of through Rhode Island from an origin likely in the Caribbean, and that it is believed that he and his association have a multi layered operation with numerous security contacts that safeguard this operation, and are likely compensated for their assistance. So apparently this case is still open, and I have been told that Liz and her husband are named, although they haven’t been convicted. So that’s a great area. We could have our legal cocktails. Obviously, look more into it. Shout out to Elle, and A they know who they are. And I did try to look at this case, because you guys know I like to do that. Every state is different. Most of them I can get access to. And I think Rhode Island is one of those where, yes, the public can get access, but you have to ask permission. I am like, I’m not, we’re not going to get involved in that. No. So Rhode Island really is giving Jersey vibes. Because if you guys remember the manzos, when it first started, had their mafia rumors, which apparently There ended up being truth to we learned all those years later, even though they vehemently deny it, denied it. Tommy Manzo, who’s Albert’s brother, is currently serving time because he had a Costa Nostra, somebody in there in the mob, beat up Dina and her husband. We also had Danny, who was Danielle’s henchman, yeah, who had a lot of illegal activities.

He was obviously low on the mafia totem pole, but a gangster nonetheless. And then I got a DM, and you guys know me when I get my early DMS. So I got a DM with a link, and it was kelsey’s second boyfriend, who will get to kelsey’s second boyfriend, but Billy le Europa, or something. And so I, like, posted it, and then you guys were like, B, this guy’s 60, and it was like, from years prior, yeah, so that was his dad. But So Billy kelsey’s Second boyfriend’s also involved in his family has been involved in tax fraud and illegal dealings. But let’s discuss Kelsey girl and the fact that she brought her second boo right on the television. A So she brings him on, has a coffee date with him, talks about him in her confessional, we see her mom say, How’s my future son in law, Billy doing? But then at Liz’s party, he’s invited because he knows Liz and Jerry as well. She definitely seems to be keeping her distance and not wanting to get too close to him. I Yeah, I was watching and I was like, Is this because at the time, she’s still trying to keep her first boyfriend, the rich boyfriend. And also I am imagining that if he’s picking, this is totally off topic. But if this first boyfriend who lives in Miami at the rest of the year, the other half of the year. I’m sure that he’s picking the summer to be in Rhode Island with Kelsey, not the winter, because Rhode Island is gorgeous in the summer. So he’s probably, I’m guessing, around so maybe that’s why is like, yes, trying to not just publicize your time in with you.

I think that he was home for the summer, because, as you said, and we know this about snowbirds, if we live on the east coast, I was just down in Florida at end of April, after a Passover and Easter, the snowbirds are heading back up to New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, wherever they live. My feeling is that relationship is on the way out, and she knows that whether it’s her choice, his choice, amical, amicable split, but they’re seeing the summer out, and so Billy is waiting in the wings, because I think she’s trying to get her ducks in a row for when he goes back to Miami, I would imagine she’ll no longer be in the home. A Yeah, I will also imagine maybe she’s trying to find another boyfriend who can support her in the way really successful, but not so successful that I won’t be able to work and I don’t want to work, right? Kudos for A your honor. Good for her. Okay, so we also get more of a glimpse of Ashley and jared’s life and their coffee shop. So I think this has been a labor of love for Jared. It just seems like they’re at a critical point where she’s feeling like a work widow, but for a business that just isn’t bringing in very much income, whereas she we talked about this last week, she has more followers than Lindsay Hubbard and Sierra and Amanda, and she’s gonna get a lot. Lot more just from being on the show, so she can make more money, and what I’m sure feels like a lot less stressful of a way. So my guess is that they’re hoping to hold on until Rhode Island premiered, so that the business would pick up, and that maybe hopefully he can hire like a manager or somebody to be there.

But that’s my guess. I’m sure they will start, if they haven’t already, to get a big bump in people coming in business. I’m in complete agreement. Watching it, it read to me like Ashley’s the one who makes the money the coffee shop is a passion project for him, which my thing is, that’s totally cool, and I understand him wanting to have a job and not just listen, some men are cool with being a stay at home dad if their wife is the breadwinner, and some men want to work even if they’re not making equal money. Vice versa for women and men, right? That’s these are decisions people make in marriages, and it’s fine. My thing is, it sounds like this coffee shop is all consuming, and Ashley’s getting to a point where she’s been really patient, but she’s getting to a point where, like, Why the fuck are you never home? This shit doesn’t even make any money. And meantime, I’m running, like, my brand deals and my this and my that, and I could use some help at home, you know what I’m saying, and not have to hire the nanny or whomever is watching the kids while you’re sitting in a coffee shop, serving one cup of coffee with a machine that doesn’t work. So I do feel like there is the aspect of, for some men, it’s emasculating. But my thing is, it’s a good point you raise that they’re probably waiting for the show to come out and hope business picks up. And I hope that he does hire more help for the coffee shop, because Absolutely he should have his own thing. And I know we watched bow and Stasi open up about that on last season’s van der plum villa, where Stasi makes so much money and his line of work isn’t as profitable, and so he stepped away from it to do the at home thing.

And he does feel like he doesn’t contribute. So I can 100% appreciate that as the other spouse, whether it’s a man or a woman, but to have a job that doesn’t earn and takes you away like it’s kind of, I guess what I’m saying is, if this is something he does nine to two cool, but if this is taking you away from your family and adding stress to your wife because you’re there all hours of the day and night, it’s too much. I mean, A I think that’s always the hard thing with any kind of restaurant brick and mortar is like, there’s got to be somebody there. And it’s, I think it’s a huge struggle for so many people. And I yeah, I think it’ll be interesting to see. I think one of the things that’s really nice that about them having this coffee shop is, I think it’s nice when there’s people who come in town and they want, they want a landmark right, to be like, Oh, that’s the coffee shop or, Oh, that’s Sutton store or the lab Blanca was Lisa vanderpump’s restaurant. I think people like to have a landmark like that, like I said, hopefully they’re just holding on for that and that, because it does seem to me like, if they don’t, they’re at a critical point in their marriage too, where, if they don’t get this figured out, it’s gonna, it’s gonna really fester for them. I just wanted to before we move on to our girl, Lisa Hochstein, I wanted to, I found so rule is husband Brian, this week, filed a lawsuit against the mistress, and one of you guys sent to me from the complainant, because it’s like people aren’t sure what the lawsuits about.

So this says, Since the execution of the said confidential settlement agreement and release, the defendant, Beth Walker, has materially breached and continues to breach the confidentiality and non disparagement provisions of said agreement by making public statements in social media about the facts and circumstances that formed the basis of the original lawsuit. So I can see the confusion where people were thinking it’s about their relationship, but the person said, it seems it’s about business, because what I think is there were some sort of non compete, and maybe she’s been out publicly bad mouthing his Med Spa is my guess, because or A Rula was like, you can’t be in business with this woman anymore. You have to essentially buy her out. And there was some sort of agreement that’s okay, but you can’t talk about us there’s because that’s very common when there’s any kind of settlement here, here’s your $200,000 now, don’t discuss our affair anywhere that you can’t talk about any of it, yeah. But in other words, people online were saying that he was suing her about an affair, but they were in business together. So yes, the affair, to Amanda’s point, could have played that part. Okay, you got your settlement, but you’re breaking the NDA, so now give me 100 grand back. It could be that kind of thing. Also, Beth has two divorce This is the mistress. Two divorce proceedings. If you look her up. One, she filed and dropped, dismissed due to reconciliation, but the husband refiled in 2024 so, A oh, right around when it seems like the affair was happening, at least, because that’s what we heard is it was in 2024 Yeah, makes sense.

So now let’s get to Lisa hockstein. There’s a warrant A out for monkey. That was great. So if you guys missed it, Marisol just posted, Miami is crazy, and a fan of the show wrote, Marisol adios Mio, there’s a warrant out for monkey. You guys will remember that Marisol calls Lisa monkey as a nick like a affectionate nickname. A Yeah. Okay, Lisa, there was a warrant out for her, and Jody got arrested. I think this was Monday, so then yesterday, Lisa voluntarily surrendered to Miami Police to face a felony charge of interception of wire, oral or electric communications. Her ex boyfriend, Jody Glidden was arrested on the same charge earlier that week, on April 11, and was released on a $5,000 bond after entering a not guilty plea. So the charge, like we said, is essentially interception of some sort of electronic communications. The allegation is that they unlawfully and intentionally intercepted or tried to intercept conversations involving Lisa’s ex husband, Lenny, and those he spoke with. So this happened during in 2023 in May 2023 Lenny accused Lisa of planning a listening device in his car. One of the cocktails told us last night that it was in his Maybach and that she borrowed it, saying, I want to drive it just to see if it’s something I like. And then she taped, like I said, they essentially taped some sort of listening device in the car, and it fell out and Lenny found it. Lawyers for them both released a joint statement saying that this matter belongs in civil divorce proceedings rather than criminal court.

Lisa was released on her own recognizance yesterday and then seen, first of all, best mug shot ever. But then also, after she was in jail, went out for margaritas for dinner. I can’t so yeah, so we’ve got a little bit of info, but it sounds like a lot of yeah, a lot of you guys were nervous she would be deported, but she is a US citizen. She was born in Canada. She became a naturalized citizen in May 2024, on the Zoom, somebody asked, would they revoke that? I don’t think so. I you’re a citizen. A You’re a citizen. I think if you have a green card and there’s something, I think they can revoke that. So we, on the Zoom, had a very informed legal cocktail, or we will leave it at that end. Do you want to share A what she Yeah, okay, so seriously, badass group of cocktails, all of you guys. One is a prosecutor. She gave us her thoughts on what will happen. She said, in Florida, especially with first offenses, they are very rehabilitation focused, which means they’re not as much send them to jail like they want to try to have a punishment that makes them do better and not commit a crime again. So she thinks they’ll either get diversion and that the charges will be lowered to misdemeanor or even expunge, or that it could result in what’s called a withhold of adjudication, which would essentially just have similar results. The difference is, if they give, if they can only offer diversion if the victim agrees to it. So Lenny has to agree to diversion, and we all know what Lenny is like, so you probably won’t but that our cocktail or said it’s probably not going to matter materially either way, because they’ll both have the same results.

In her opinion, she did say, though, that since the incident happened in 2023 and Lisa and Lenny’s divorce was settled in 2024 it likely should not affect the closed divorce, but that depending on how the divorce terms were written, it could affect her alimony, because it could be that, like, if one of you, if Lisa commits a crime against Lenny, or violates whatever, then he can withdraw alimony. So it could be about that. I want to say what popped into my head is we know that Lenny built her that house, which I believe she moved into. And I just feel, yes, this is about money. I don’t think Lenny’s trying to send Lisa to jail. I think he’s trying to maybe get out of having to have her in the house, get out of alimony. He’s motivated to not have to pay her. That’s my thought. I agree, and I’m relieved to know that she most it’s very unlikely that she’ll do jail time. A Yeah, huge. Thank you to our baddie cocktail. Or, you know who you are? Yes, we have a little more time. Just a quick thing about ladies of London again, guys, if you’re not watching it, or you saw the first, the first go around a few years ago, you didn’t love it. The clothes, the Polo, missy’s Boob just popping out. There is literally not one person on this show that I don’t want to see more of which you guys know us well enough, like we’ve always got opinions. And there’s a lot of people that were like, man, they could go whatever. Every single one of them, I think is so fun. And actually, what I really loved about the last episode is I feel like we’re watching a very classic reality TV.

Be clash. So two women claim the same person as their best friend and fight over her. Just think about it. We’ve seen it on Beverly Hills, where Lisa and dorit both fought over Kyle being their best friend. So in this case, Martha is best friends with both Kimmy and Margo. So Kimmy is the one with the adorable gap tooth smile. Martha is the one who lives with a bird who poops all over her house. Had been homeless and now has the character the title of lady. And then Margot is the American who used to live in London and now is back and sober. But of course, Kimmy and Margo are clashing, and Kimmy is mad at Martha for continuing to be friends with Margo like this, to me, is the kind of drama I love. Nobody’s getting arrested, nobody’s driving drunk. People are calling each other cows and psycho bitches. Where what do you think about this whole friendship triangle. Do you have a side? I do have a side, and I am team Kimmy. I ride for Kimmy. I love Kimmy. I find Margo absolutely humorless, and I also think Margo is a huge troublemaker. I agree that kimmy’s comments because they Kimmy and Margo are currently beefing about an insensitive thing Kimmy said about Missy. But the reality is that Margot has taken a lot of what people have said. She is the one who was exploiting the Dara being a madam rumor, she has taken a lot. She is the one who said that Mark’s family, which they haven’t even addressed yet, and I hope they do. Mark’s family disowned him, and he’s not a real member of society, and he’s Emma’s bag holder.

She says really nasty, disgusting things about people, and then when people like when Mark made fun of her outfit behind her back, or when Kimmy was like, You’re a fucking pot store for repeating what I said, she cries and plays victim. Margo makes great TV, because she does bring the drama and everything like that, but humorless troublemaker, zero accountability victim. I do A have to agree with Mark crush velvet. It should stay in the 90s and listen, Margo could really pull anything off. She has a beautiful figure, right? I just would also like to add, because I do want to get to a little bit of summer house. I adore Martha. I when she was on that horse, and like, she is so kooky and lovable, and she just has an energy vibe. A I love her. I love her. I love her. Okay, summerhouse, we’re gonna get we’re gonna get through some of this debacle. Okay, so Friday, Amanda made a statement, which people are like, Why is she making this statement? She was basically like, Hey guys, I’m truly sorry I reached out to the people in my life that I hurt, but for the sake of my mental health, I’m gonna be posting on social media, and I’m gonna be out and about, but I do really feel bad, so when you see me, know that I feel bad, but for my mental health, I need to post on social media, and I need to hang out in bars. Kay, love you. Bye. So that evening, hours later, I get a DM. It’s a picture of her at a bar in the city which, by the way, bars that West and Amanda go to our college bars. They’re basically for transplants who are not from New York City.

Very random, not cool spots, not A prime much. Doesn’t look very fun in there, either as balls to butts in there. It’s for young kids. They probably have, like, beer specials. I don’t get it there they are. They then left the bar because there are pictures circulating. Also for everyone who was like, Oh my God, how dare you post a picture of them. Wes posted to his stories that he was there in real time. So like, he’s outing A himself and guys, we got a lot of those pictures, not just from one person, yeah, and pictures taken in a public place, yeah. So they left, they went on a date with another couple. They were allegedly making out on the date. Lot of rumors that West has a skiing problem and that Amanda has hired him as an instructor. I really hoped that she would realize that he’s a fuck boy who has no intentions of being with her and is only doing this to save his reputation, and that she would go to the reunion and be apologetic. But clearly, that’s not the choice she made. A So just, literally, just when I feel like last week, kind of the tides were turning a little bit because Kyle went out and was defending her and saying, I’m worried about her mental health. And he’s Wes is manipulative, and he can say anything to get any woman into bed, and that Wes has been manipulating her. Just when we start to be like maybe she goes out and does this and just digs herself even deeper, I think, and there’s just so much to it, like it’s confirmed Shailene or Mejia or both. Those are his two main other girls.

He was hooking up with them as recently as March 24 and on March 28 is when West and Amanda were spotted at Millar keys in Newport Beach. They were both in. California. And then someone said, By the way, B I helped Amanda to the bathroom at Millar keys. She was like, do not tell anyone I saw you. She was lost. And I think, although I don’t want to accuse her that she was skiing, same as West so, like, what A are people? I don’t really know what people. I’m gonna sound so naive guys, but I thought when people are doing they’re like, sweaty and talking really fast. I know that the jaw, like, goes back and forth. I don’t know, but these people seem to know. Seem to A know, right? But the key timing on that guys remember so they were seen on Saturday, March 28 this I feel like we’ve lived a lifetime the last couple weeks here. But Thursday, March 26 is the day that we released the emergency pod saying, Hey, we didn’t believe this. We didn’t believe this. And now the evidence is really posting was, and we still said it might not be, but we’re, it’s really hard to ignore, and it looks like they are or have been hooking up. And remember that whole weekend everyone was hoping that it was an April Fool’s joke. Yeah, this episode and so Andy said in his show that they are like, re editing. And remember when they say they’re re editing, they’re not creating new footage. They’re just going back and saying, oh shit, let’s Yeah, let’s see. And they’re finding things. There’s so much we spoke about this at length on the Zoom, but when Amanda, you and I will just point out like what stuck out to us.

What stuck out to me was when Amanda flipped on Kyle, about Kyle not being more mad at West for hooking up with a girl in front of Sierra, and she screamed at him, and everyone was so confused, because she’s never screamed at Kyle, even when Kyle cheated on her, she never screamed at him that bad. But she says to West something to the extent of, and I may not be saying exactly, we live in a house together, and there has to be a minimum level of respect. When you live in a house, it’s Oh, so you shouldn’t be fucking West under your husband and Sierra’s nose, her A behavior was definitely strange, and everyone was sharing their jaw dropping the moments their jaws drop. But I cannot, still cannot get over Amanda saying to west, watch my butt as I walk away. I was literally talking to my husband about this last night, and he’s Yeah, like, sometimes there’s people who are, like, kind of flirty or whatever. And I was like, you would lose your mind if I said that to another, even, like our good friends like to that, like, you would lose your freaking right, lean right. I would never, yeah, to be clear, I would never, but it was, I was like, okay, that, to me, is the piece of evidence that I am like, okay, maybe. What about something? What about nothing to do with West? What about when she said she was going to apologize to Sabrina after she told Sabrina, Oh, Ben, has everyone in the House thinks he’s in love with me, and something about Italy, about him wanting to fuck her? I don’t know exactly what she said, and I shouldn’t have mentioned that, because that because that’s not my story to tell.

That’s not an apology. That’s you being like, yeah, your boyfriend has been flirting with me all summer and did want to fuck me in Italy, but that’s for him to share with you. What a fucking bitch. And Mia and Ciara crying with her and hugging her and being riding for her, and whether or not it was happening then or it happened after the fact that she chose West over that is crazy and self destructive. KJ is coming out in full force today. I was so happy to see he posted a video of him like in a studio, and in the background is playing, you ain’t a friend of mine from the 50 cents on wangster And the fact that he’s calling West a wangster chef’s kiss. But also when he actually says, you ain’t a friend of mine, I am like, yes. Now listen, I don’t know how good of friends KJ and West really were. Yes, West introduced him, and I’m sure they hung out before filming, but clearly they became friends whether or not because we know sometimes casting just says that, but he is writing for Sierra because this is against his moral code, and I appreciate that. As a man, he’s just going after the man as he should. I don’t want to see I don’t want to see any of the guys attack Amanda, and I don’t think we will. But he is not taking his foot off the gas. There is no break for West A and talk about Kyle Cook, going from two weeks ago being like reality TV is most hated man right to a Phoenix raising from the ashes this world that we love to talk about, it is never boring. I’m gonna close with the point that we made on the pod last night.

Okay, because shout out to Emma, a lovely college senior whose mom follows us, and she follows us too, and she’s a sociology major, and she’s writing her thesis on reality television and the commentary and accounts like mine, et cetera. So her and I were talking and Like. Occurred to me. I was like, I get it. Now, the thing with reality television is you can be a flub person. You can make mistakes. You can make the same mistakes. You could do all the things. But when you lie, when you show yourself to be caught in a pattern of lying, that’s what you don’t come back from. So the reason why none of us have turned our backs on Kyle cook. Kyle Cook is an Enigma in many ways. Kyle Cook has done many things wrong. He the way he has spoken to women, the way he has treated his wife, tons of things, but he takes accountability for his behavior. He has, on many occasions, when he was asked on camera by Amanda about the cheating rumors, he didn’t deny them. Those are the things now Amanda Okay, first, she lied about their separation more than one time. Fine, we get it. Your marriage is splitting up. You tell us when you’re ready. She did multiple interviews saying she would never touch anyone on the cast whilst touching West. You know what? The lies, the lies, the lies. So that is what you don’t come back from West, liar, Snake lies. I that is what we don’t come back for. I agree. A I think that is it’s really not working for Amanda. And I agree, when somebody is breaking up and we happen to get the details and share it and they weren’t ready, or they weren’t contractually allowed to announce their split, that is one thing, but also Wes looking straight at the camera and telling America that Amanda is just a good friend.

Maybe he is actually telling the truth, and maybe he was eight like because maybe that’s all he saw her really as at that point. Who knows? But yeah, they both been lying to our faces under our noses and US cocktails are not having it, not having it also, guys, cameras did pick up, I believe, last Thursday, Kyle Amanda Lindsay filmed so our Amanda cocktail, Amanda was right. They’re gonna pick up cameras for in the city. Girl, kudos. You got that everyone when I posted this was like, Amanda clocked that I A was like, She sure did. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. We love you guys. There’s we didn’t get to the valley. We will. We need more Atlanta. We meet. We need more ladies of London. We’re gonna do all A of that, but Beverly Hills, Beverly Hills, Valley tonight, right? Yeah, let’s go. Yeah, all right. Love you guys. Bye. What’s up? Cocktails. We want to thank you, as always, for listening to cocktails and gossip because of you, we’ve hit some amazing milestones, had some hilarious conversations, and have grown a truly amazing community. If you haven’t already followed our podcast, hit the Follow button in the top right of your apple podcast player, the Follow button under the show logo on Spotify, or the subscribe button on Google podcasts, we thrive on you our audience, so make sure to tell all your gossip loving friends about us too. And if you want to get all the tea, join our membership cocktail party by going to Ravel and cocktails.com backslash. Join our members get access to the exclusive tea.

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