181. Why does Wendy want to be tried separately? What to watch next; Why we can’t be in the CIA

This week, we have Kate Casey from Reality Life with Kate Casey on the show. Her takes are always sharp and insightful and she’s got the goods when it comes to the “what should I watch next?” question. Why does Wendy Osefo want to be tried separately from Eddie? Kate convinces us both to watch the latest season of The Chrisleys and we think you’ll be convinced, too. Want to know who’s teaming up against whom on the next season of RHOBH? Kate’s got another show for us. And last, we now know why none of us can be in the CIA. 

What’s up, cocktails, we have a really fun surprise for you today. Hi cocktails, hi B. We are super excited to welcome Kate Casey. So she has a wonderful podcast, reality life with Kate Casey, and you can follow her on Instagram at Kate Casey. Ca, Kate, we love your pod. We love your content, guys. If you want to figure out what to watch, Kate has it and she has it. She is on top of it every week. I always really like hearing her takes on housewives. They always tend to be insightful and based on, I don’t know, like I was blown away the last time we had you on the pod and we were talking about Theresa and how many people just love her, and how it’s some of us, people who are not fans of Teresa. It’s kind of hard for us to see. And you said, I think these folks have had a close family member or an aunt or somebody that reminds them of her, and ever since that, I was like, okay, that actually really makes a lot of sense to me. So welcome Kate. Thank you. Thank you. I so appreciate that. I feel like that would all the cast members like for me right now, when I watch the Britney story with her daughter, I It reminds me of someone I know who has have been in a similar predicament. So I kind of look through a different lens. And then Bronwyn, when I watch her scenes with her mother and with her father, I’m looking through the lens of someone else I knew in my life. So I just try to look at all of their stories that way. I think that people have a visceral reaction too to Jax on the valley because they remind him of the worst boyfriend that they ever had, yes or like, even, like, he’s the quintessential bad boyfriend, even if he wasn’t your boyfriend. Like, I’m sure the three of us are women, and we’ve all had friends who were with a guy they wouldn’t get rid of. And like, the relationship was so toxic, it made your friendship toxic. And like, he’s that awful, toxic guy that we’ve all if we didn’t date him, our best friend did, or with Teresa, we knew someone like Louie, and it’s this relationship is going south, but it’s a train moving into a wall, and there’s nothing we can do to stop it. And if we say anything, we become the enemy, and they’re gonna isolate and then they’ll have no one to talk to. Yeah, that one’s complicated, too. It’s so complicated, and we’re gonna touch on all those things, but there’s so much bravo to chat about. I was on Kate’s pod yesterday, which will be out tomorrow, so make sure you guys listen to that. We had a lot of fun, and I don’t know I got off the pod. I had to go do carpool with my kids. As I’m waiting in at the field, as us moms do. I’m scrolling, and I see that Wendy osifo is claiming that she’s the victim of an illegal arrest. She is fighting the court. The court. Amanda, do you want to give a little summary of Sure? So on October 17, her lawyer filed court documents as part of the criminal case that’s going on in Maryland. The.
Document demanded that all of the charges be dismissed due to quote, unquote defects in the charging document. So in the filing, Her lawyer said Wendy was illegally arrested, as you just said, be he said that all admissions, statements or confessions should not be allowed as evidence because they were unlawfully obtained. So you guys know, Wendy and Eddie were both arrested on October 9 at for insurance fraud. Both are free, right? Well, free on bond right now, they were both indicted by a grand jury, and as we mentioned, both arrested. So also as part of this, Wendy asked that the trial of codefendants be suffered severed from the trial of this defendant, meaning she wants her trial to be separated from Eddie’s trial. In another filing, Wendy’s lawyer demanded that the prosecutors turn over any evidence that they possess, she demanded a list of all the witnesses. This is all pretty, I think, normal, but they also asked for any polygraph results of any witnesses that were questioned by law enforcement, which we’ll talk a little bit more about later. But as we are now, also experts in lie detector tests from watching Real houses Orange County, we know that they are not admissible in court, so that kind of raised our eyebrows. Wendy also wanted to know if prosecutors had any confidential informants that helped with the investigation. Couple of things. We’ve got some cocktails who are attorneys. We have some that work insurance. We’ve been having a lot of conversations back and forth, the part one of the one of our cocktail or attorneys says that essentially, all this filing is they’re trying to get her off on a technicality. So she’s not denying that she did it in these documents. She’s just they’re just saying you got the evidence against me illegally, so it should be thrown out. What else? Yeah, we’ll see. But I do want to bring up and get your guys’s opinions. Do you think that there would be a either they plan this together, or it happens that they that Wendy and Eddie want their court cases separate in that would you think that they would have one of them take the fall? Or do you think that Wendy is trying to separate herself from Eddie? What do you guys make of that part of I think her personality is like she doesn’t like she I think she thinks they’re gonna get off. I think not only that, I think her personality is probably built around this idea that the longer I can drag this out, the more I’m going to be on this is good for the show. If anything, they’re going to want me. Now, that’s how twisted it is. So I don’t think they’ve even it’s even occurred to them that one of them may or may not go to prison. I think they’re just like, probably so sick that she’s getting the high off of the attention that comes with it. I don’t think she’s taking it that seriously. That’s so scary. What do you think? B I have had a lot of cocktails, ask me, do you think her next move is to throw Eddie under the bus? I And again, I was and I told Kate about how I was raving about them less than 12 hours before they were indicted, and they don’t see Wendy necessarily throwing him under the bus. I do see a situation where Eddie will be like, if I could just take the hit, I’ll take the hit, and you’ll be like, avoid her. Avoid jail time. Her raise the children. I think that’s what any if you make a choice as a couple to break the law. I don’t know, call me old fashioned, but I would kind of expect my husband to take the fall so that I could raise my children and we’re not both in jail. Well, my understanding, too is that it’s not a given that if a couple is arrested, like parents like Wendy and Eddie, that the court, once sentenced would let the couple take their sentences at different times, like they did with Teresa Giudice and Joe and so there is a real possibility that, if they are both, you know, if they are both found guilty and sentenced, they could both be in prison at the same time, leaving their children to have to live with somebody else. I think that was a gift they gave to the Judy Chase when they let them, like, serve at different times. Like, I think it was noted, like, Well, that’s nice of them, but, yeah, they don’t have to. One would assume that any judge would do that because they’re still fit parents. It’s not like they broke the law and they’re not going to jail for a child abuse. Somebody has to raise the kids. It would make sense for them to do it separately, but Christie’s youth went to jail at the same time and had a young their youngest still very much fire away. Side note, did you watch their series? Like the last couple episodes of their series when they came back from prison? That was one of the best reality shows to watch. I there was a show of them coming back just recently. Yeah, they started.
Filming the kids, and you realize, like, everything that was on the show before felt like so scripted, like a sitcom. And I was like, Oh no, this is real. You learn like Savannah and chase have all these problems and can’t stand each other. Chase was dealing with an addiction issue, like he was skinny and out of it, Julie’s parents can’t stand Todd. Julie’s parents favor or the grandfather in particular favors. Chase can’t stand Savannah. Savannah can’t stand her mom’s father. Julie’s mother is like a pushover and and then Chase was also proposing to his girlfriend, who everyone thought was a loser. And then by the end of it, they are released from prison. So you see that when they come back, and then it’s like the last episode is them just trying to get acclimated back to life, and then the parents trying to pick up with all the relationships since they were away for those two years. Totally compelling. I wrote the people who make the show and said, You guys deserve, like, awards for this. It was not what I expected. It doesn’t matter if you like, take the politics out of it. I was interested in, I’m always interested in people’s transitions, like, how does someone be? How is someone released from prison and then gets acclimated back into their life, and with all those family, complex, family dynamics on top, it was a fascinating watch. I highly recommend it. Here’s my next question for you, are they going to do another season? Oh, for sure. And what you realize now is Todd’s kind of more open than I expected, because I’ve interviewed him before, and he was kind of a dick, and he said I got so sick of doing that show. It was a real burden, and I became more of a surprise. He’s such a funny character, but he was finding himself becoming more of an introvert. I don’t want to be bothered. I want to stay at home. And now his life mission is prison reform. And so a lot of the work that he does, he has like a Todd squad. So he’s gonna have a spin off where he goes and reconnects with people that he was in prison with. There are all these young kids that were in prison with him, that he called his kids, and they would come to him and ask him for life advice, and he’s been highlighting on the show and on the podcast that they have okay about the prison system. It’s really like to me, but he broke the law, right? So yes, yes, I’m saying, aside from that, absolutely just like, what happens when someone leaves prison, all their weird family dynamics that I had no idea. Oh, but they covered enough prison reform for what people that are also guilty? No, it’s like the system, like abuse within the system, which it definitely exists, and then how? Basically, it’s so disorganized that there are people that have been waiting to be released and because of paperwork issues, like they’re in there for way too long. It’s just, it’s very interesting. Now do I again, you have to take your politics out, right? Just from, like, a purely anthropological lens. I thought it was really interesting, because I think the most of it is, it kind of reminds me of The Real Housewives too. Is like people push their own narratives, and you’re like, Okay, I guess that’s who they are. But once they went to prison and it was their kids filming on their own. You’re like, oh, this is actually what’s going on with this weird family. I want to watch why this is why I love the content that you put out. Because this is, like, totally a show that I think I had written off. I have totally passed, I know, but you get sucked in on telling you you’re gonna be and you’re gonna change your opinion of them. Savannah is definitely her father’s daughter. Their their personalities are similar. Chase is just like his mom. He’s like, kind of like a pushover. And the best kid of all is Grayson, who’s the smallest one, and he is like the voice of reason, which you would have never expected. And then they have the granddaughter that they’re also Savannah has been raising that granddaughter for two years, and then she’s pissed at the grandparents because they haven’t helped at all. So they have this sit down dinner for the first time in two years, and the grandfather’s and he’s a total misogynist. Julie’s dad is Savannah, is there anything you can do to help? And she’s get fuck out here. Like, where have you been? Loser? And then you’re like, because you see her on TV, and she’s so outspoken, you’re like, Okay. And then you see what she deals with her own family, and you’re like, yeah, no wonder she’s this vociferous. All right, cocktails. We’re watching it. It’s like the housewives of the season. It’s like, every little puzzle piece you get more okay? Once you meet bronwyn’s Mom, you’re like, Oh, she married her mom because that’s all she knows. That’s all she thinks she deserves. I agree with you that it always was so scripted. It’s the reason I never I don’t want to say I never watched it, because they always would play reruns, so like, when I’m putting my laundry away, if I just had Bravo on, I know the show, but I watched it a couple times, and was like, why am I watching this? It’s, first of all, it felt phony. It felt phony. He doesn’t seem to be engaged in his marriage. Oh, you know what? I totally have changed my opinion on that too. So that could have just been his disgust with the show or just trying to be, I think he’s like, playing up like he he’s undoubtedly very charismatic and naturally very funny. And I think he plays that up. I don’t like I should say that. Put it this way, I think they have.
A deep love. It’s not a love that’s similar to ours. Maybe our doesn’t look like our relationship, but I think that they are super connected in a way that I never really kind of bought until I watched this version of their show and then listening to interviews they’ve done, I’ve changed my tune. She’s just she’s a product of her parents. Her father was a misogynist, her mom was a pushover, and even as an adult, she’s somebody I would totally love to interview. I feel like she’s only now in her 50s, kind of trying finding her own footing, and I think prison was the only thing that allowed her to finally find her own power. Wow. And you think they stay together post release? Oh, I think they’ll be married forever, because I think at the core of their relationship is the deepest friendship that either of them has. I think they have a lot of people in their lives. I think they’re people that both have a lot of personal friends, but I think at the core of their relationship is they are the very best friends to one another. So even so the like the romance stuff, I think it’s immaterial, because their bond, their friendship is so deep, and they play off of each other. They’re so different. But the longer I’ve kind of seen this unfiltered version, it’s like, I said the puzzle pieces where I’m like, oh, and that’s why she chose him, that’s why he chose her, that’s why they parent that way. Wow. Okay, I’m putting this in the newsletter, guys. I’ll put a link. I think, I think it’s gonna get awards. I’m not kidding you. It’s gonna be and then I heard them say it was like the number one show for lifetime in the last couple years.
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if he really is going to expose, because he has the platform right, and if he really is going to expose true prison fraud and stuff that’s wrong, they’re doing my seasonal cleaning in my backyard, and I hear the men screaming as they’re like, but you know what? Even it like, god bless anybody that helps, I think, oh, that’s what I’m saying. So I just believe in second chances too. I really wanted Teresa when she was released from prison and I saw her come back, I was fascinated, because to me, she looked totally shell shocked. Remember, if she gets out of the van, she walks into the house, and then the girls approach her, I’m like, now we’re talking doc series. Now we’re talking like, really how people adapt, and it took her a couple months, if not, like, a year or so, to untether herself from the experience of prison, like she she wasn’t herself. And Julie says that too well. Todd, by the way, is I ran that prison because I didn’t do any work, and I was like, making calls to he would call Savannah and snitch on people. And then she would go out and do media appearances and talk about it. And then they would punish the other prisoners, but not him, and then, because they were, like, afraid of him. And then there were people who worked in the prison who would bring him Chick fil A and stuff, which is crazy. Julie had opposite experience. She’s like a rule follower, and when she left, she was having a really hard time unraveling it. And there’s this one moment where savannah’s Mom, why can’t you just go back to being your old self? She’s I will never be the version that you knew me as. And I’m like, now that’s interesting. Wow. I wish that Theresa had talked a little bit more about that, and I suspect there’s a lot of the reason that she’s still with Louis is because she’s still processing the marriage to Joe, and then what happened in prison? I’m not saying she got beat up in prison or thing. I’m just saying the experience of prison is more than we could even imagine, right? Being isolated from your family, well, all of that stuff, like, as a mother with that, I remember like feeling so bad for her, any mother who has to go to prison, yeah, to have to leave, with the exception of Brittany and maybe bronwyn’s Mom, but like Theresa and whatever your opinion on her is, in every other way, there is nobody that watches that show that does not recognize that she lives for her daughters and wants and so that’s traumatic. I feel bad if my kids have a performance that I have to miss because of work, never mind. Do you know have to miss months and holidays? I just and knowing that your kids are okay, but they can’t ever get that back and that sitting in jail on Christmas day, on their birthday, on their graduation, I can’t, I don’t know if you ever get over the guilt of that, forget about yourself. It’s not even yourself. It’s the guilt of you did something that put your kids in a position to have to be without you, and then your husband’s harder ever totally. Yep, so I’m just saying maybe part of the reason I don’t know Theresa, lord knows I don’t understand her, but all housewives, I think we all, collectively, you spend this much time watching the show, you’re rooting for them, right? We are. We’re all rooting for them. Yes, I wonder sometimes if she married as a way of like a survival, emotional survival, and she feels like if she gets a divorce, she’s gonna let her down, let down her kids again. She built them a family that I wholeheartedly believe that if Joe didn’t have that deportation hiccup, if when he got out, he went straight back to New Jersey, I don’t think she would have left him. I think may have left him when the girls were older, but I think that while they were in school, she would have wrote it out. I think that because he was going to be in another country, and because she already knew he was a cheater, she wasn’t willing to do that, and her livelihood was here, and he doesn’t earn money. So what were they going to do? She had to stay in New Jersey and work. It wasn’t like they could just up and leave fascinating. All these shows are this is why, like, this is such a fun like, space to be in to watch these shows every week, because it’s just, it’s like a college class every week. And then you, but you’re Wendy right at a park, and you’re looking at your contemporaries who broke the law, the Chris Lee’s, you’re looking at Theresa and Joe. You’re looking at Jen Shah, and you’re so they became more famous than ever. But okay, but that’s the way, if, when, but if she’s not looking at those three beautiful, sweet kids in her house and saying, because even if she gets off, they’re gonna have to be without their father. I just, I think these people have lost their minds once they there is a chemical shift in someone’s brain when they become a reality star. You looked at Brittany this week, where her daughter’s you were not I had to ask my father to talk to me about periods like you chose a man over me, and it’s still, I don’t think she’s even listening. She’s processing like, How do I look on Kim?
Camera is very off there. Totally, yeah, but they’re all kind of off. But that wasn’t when she got on the show. That was when she got remarried. Well, before she was ever on the show, the daughter was like, No, I know, but she was a great mom until I was 12, and then she completely detached. I know what you’re saying, No, Kate, because you’re saying you think that Britney still hasn’t learned, and then you can see that she’s still thinking about herself throughout that whole conversation versus really taking in what her daughter I think a lot of the women that participate in this show have there’s like a personality disorder, yes, and once they become like you’re they’re plucked from obscurity, and then you there, they have strangers in their DM saying, I love your outfits, I love everything you do. And they are there. They have zero hold on normalcy, and they everything becomes about them, to the point where this may be bad for my family, but who cares? Because now I’m more Google searches about me, and now I might get on traders, because they’re gonna think, wow, she did that. Maybe that’s the way I think that they think, once they get access to this, like part of fame, it’s really crazy again. It’s fascinating to watch from afar. It is, it is, but it’s when you think of it like that. Yikes. I know,
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Well, obviously, keep following Wendy and Eddie and it’ll be I want to hear what you guys all think, those of you who are on Discord with us, what you guys think about, would Eddie? Would Wendy and Eddie either on purpose, like we said, Let Eddie take the fall, and this is all again, assuming that they are guilty, we don’t know at this point, or would, would Wendy throw him under the bus? So let’s talk about that on Discord. We finally have a date for Beverly Hills guys. December 4 premieres. I got some insider scoop yesterday, so the first piece you guys ready, Kyle says, this is a person who saw a screener. I don’t know if it was clipped the whole episode. I don’t know. Kyle says, maybe I like Brad, and maybe I like Angelina, and the girls go wild. So she is finally admitting, which we all know now, what do we think the it is Kate? Do we think it’s that Morgan? Because Morgan is not officially out? I know that we all are like, yeah, no, it’s about her. She doesn’t. She apparently has super religious parents and has never come out to them, and it’s her decision. Not so then you feel a little bit It’s Morgan, so then you feel a little bit of empathy, because, well, she has girls as her love interest in her music videos, but no, but in scenes with Kyle, I have empathy because you see that she wants to say it. So yes, I’m in love with her. We’re together, but she can’t, because she’s been asked not to, and that’s like a difficult position, because she’s on a reality show. And should she be in a reality show at this point? Maybe not, but I think it’s from what I understand. It’s been because Morgan has asked her, please don’t talk about us being in a relationship like that. Wow, so we had heard that, and I guess she’s able to just tell her parents, well, that’s my art. This is how people view me. But it’s not because in her music video, her love interest is a woman. I remember music video, which I would never do, that would be some video of me singing. My love interest would be a man. Do you know what I mean? So I don’t, yeah. Remember, how many times have you gone home with your friends from college, or you dated a guy and you realize that each set of each family has their own set of rules, and they don’t always make sense, and everybody has to kind of go along with it. Like, you go to your cousin’s house and or your aunt’s house and your cousin’s like, total weirdo, but everyone’s just pretend, Bobby’s fine. You’re like, why are we pretending this is so stupid? But you come up with your own set of rules and your family of origin, and maybe that’s one of the unspoken rules. We will not it’s right there. The shiny ball’s there, but we’re not going to acknowledge it. Yeah, it’s got to be. So we get that from Kyle. And then there’s a new housewife, the girl Amanda, who made her, Oh, I got you something. Oh, my old babysitter, her husband, works for this at the county, and he does like wedding. He does the weddings the courthouse. And he came back a couple weeks ago, and he goes, Oh yeah, I married one of the Real Housewives from Beverly Hills. I went, who? And he showed me a picture, and I said, Oh, that’s a new person. He said, Oh yeah. So during the season, they’d go to the courthouse and they get married, Amanda and her boyfriend, now, husband, yes, yeah, well, she has a huge monolog. And this person said, it is.
Dynamite, and she goes on a rampage about how she doesn’t have to depend on a man, and she wasn’t built based off of a man’s wealth, like the rest of them, they said, it’s epic and long winded, and then we’re gonna see Bose. I’m saying it right. Bose and dorit versus Erica, everyone versus newbie Amanda Jennifer waits, Bose and dorit versus who? Erica, what? Good luck to you. Everyone versus the newbie. Amanda Tilly and Sutton have a little tiff. Kyle versus Dorit, they’re they hate each other. And it says, it seems like Bose Rachel durit are teaming up, and Kyle and Erica are teaming up. That’s not surprising. I was curious to see which way Rachel would go, because some people had been guessing, well, maybe Rachel and Dory won’t get along, because they are both so fashion forward, but I would never put those two together because Rachel built brands and an incredible career based on her fashion I’ve interviewed Rachel before. I I just couldn’t imagine her on the show, because she seems like conflict averse. Also, when you’re like a CEO, you tend not to be that combative, because you’re in an environment where you’re always trying to call a solution. Do you guys hear this? Because they’re, yeah, they’re blowing leaves. I’m not kidding you. So it’s New York, it’s full. There’s leaves everywhere, and they’re outside the window, right? My house was just, I swear my table was my desk that I’m out with shaking. I apologize, listeners, I It’s okay. I don’t control these Well, so what I so I asked the person, I said, what goes on with Rachel and what you saw? Because I’m interested to know how much or how little she talks about her divorce, because we have a little scoop that we were told that we’re going to share with you, but they said that Rachel says she wanted to have a hot girl summer, but starts crying at the end. And then there’s a clip with her and her sons talking about the divorce. I don’t know what details she goes into. He was like a cheater well, so we were told, when we posted this in cocktail party a while ago, that Raj when, remember, when he went public with his girlfriend, like on or Rachel’s birthday, the girl has the same birthday? Well, she was on a charity in Orange County, the same charity that Jesse lollies, girlfriend is on Lacey. Wait, oh, God, she was on the board. Wait, what’s the charity? It was children. It was Children’s Cancer. I want to say, let me look at that. The miracle. The Miracle one I like, I know all those girls that go to the that one. I live in Orange County, by the way, yes. So she was, so this girl was on the board of it and met him. And this is before, yeah, this is a couple of years ago. Okay, so he’s been with this girl a while, or was cheating with her for a while. I think you know, C O, E, S, C O, S, F Foundation, okay, Roger, so the CFF children’s No, C O, S, F Foundation, children’s oncology Support Fund. Oh, okay, so this so Raj is girlfriend was let go because she was having an affair with Raj, essentially, and met him at one of the events. Classy. Okay? And apparently, or it could be JD or f that’s denial of diabetes. That’s true. Yeah. I don’t know which one it is, but I just wanted to point something out really quickly. As somebody who has been divorced and we were talking about that kind of chip or switch in people’s brains, I cannot imagine ever letting any cameras ever be on my children and I discussing my divorce, okay, but wait, caveat that with what is your cultural background. I am Catholic, and that sounds right, that sounds right. He would never, ever want to be on television talking about it because they’re Jewish. Rachel’s Jewish, and I feel like that’s I find that my Jewish friends are like, I call them yummy, like they’re they want to get into the thick of things. They want to talk it out. But I’m a Protestant who went to a Catholic school and Irish and English, and my family would never want to talk about it, so I realized sometimes that’s a part of it, but also Rachel’s on a show, because this is an enormous opportunity for her business. Yeah, and she and Raj were in business together, so now they have to untangle their business dealings, and she probably is it. How does this affect the future of the business? It’s in my best interest to go on the show, even though this is like not in my wheelhouse. I think for me, it’s more just my I would never, I would never want my children to be on I think that me comparing myself to Rachel zo is it’s not even, it’s not even.
Comparable, but I think just of how painful and hard of a conversation that is, both for her and for the children, I can’t imagine ever letting cameras capture that that is, that is so that really surprises me to hear that well, but she has to. So to Kate’s point, if she needs this show as a platform, because now Raj took half her net worth, right? They were in business together, maybe more. Who knows how the cookie crumbled? You lay together for 2030, years or something, yeah, and they built it together. And so now she you go on a show. And I think that’s why, in the midst of filming, when Denise rolled up with this messy split from Aaron and all the chaos she put on camera, I heard Rachel Zoe was pissed, and I bet she was, because that probably made her have to, she had to step up her she had to step up her game, and what she was willing to share about her divorce and in the midst of filming, this piece of shit. Husband, not bad enough. He cheated on her publicly, not publicly, but within their circle, publicly, because this woman is in like a similar circle, but now he announced he basically outs his relationship during filming right around Rachel’s birthday, as Denise is spilling all the tea about Aaron. So now Rachel was probably forced to share more than she was initially willing to. That’s my guess, but she may have looked at Jenna Lyons in this sweet deal, like, your partner doesn’t even have to be on TV, and you get to talk about blouses I’m in. Well, but, but, like, I always say, it’s not like housewives, aren’t it’s not fair, like people like, Well, this one was asked back and it’s, yeah, it’s housewives. There’s no HR department that’s going to treat me and Amanda the exact same. Yep, you know what I mean. And you know that when you sign up for it. So now you have Denise back in the mix. So if you don’t step it up, Rachel, you’re not going to be asked back next season, or you’ll be a friend of and, yeah, and that’s why we get great TV. I kind of thought, I thought maybe part of the reason they asked her back too, is that dorit presents herself as like this fashionista, and there’s nothing better than to piss off someone like that than to get someone who really has relationships with the designers. It’s kind of like Luanne saying that she’s like a member of royalty, and then they have Carol Roswell. It’s like self operation by casting to diffuse someone’s ego, and I’m there for that. I’m so there for that. And I think that we all believe that her and Rachel would be at odds. And it doesn’t seem that was the case. Maybe initially that was the case, but I got where I know somebody who is like, one degree of separation from jury, like worked as an assistant, if ish, if you will. And their story is like, she’s in a room all day, and like, TK is the one driving them around, and that she just says, like, boxes delivered all the time. Oh, very interesting. And I had to, I have gotten to know PK. I’ve interviewed him before, and yeah, I feel every time I’ve ever talked to him, he’s like, in a car with kids. So that kind of does track for me. Now, am I in their lives every week, and do I live across the street? No, when he’s in town, he’s also not in town. Yeah. But also, like, you guys got a job? Like, if you’re getting boxes to your house every day, someone’s got to pay the bills. You know what I mean? I wonder how much they make. Like, she must make a ton of money on well, does she like on her posts? Cameos? I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t I feel like little Anne gets better cameos, because that’ll be funny, but dorit might be kind of like Jagger. Wish a happy birthday to Betty. I don’t like it’s not gonna blow your hair back. Well, did you see that knows how to keep us engaged? She was doing one of her shows, and they were like, who’s the nastiest housewife? And she goes, screw it. I’m just gonna say it. Erica, Jane, she’s a bitch or something like that. Yes,
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and it’s timing is perfect. She planted that question. They’re going to Bravo. Con mark, yes, good. Yeah, squash the beef, there’s okay. Now, I got a panel with Erica at squash the beef, which, by the way, would love to see those two huge personalities. And Erica, Jane’s probably like, what I like a sing off. I want to sing off. Brian Moylan and I came up with a TV show that will never be greenlit, but it’s our idea that it’s like the voice meets housewives, where all of them who have purported to be singers in some capacity have to sing for three judges with big X. It’s like a mix of all the shows into one. I love it.
Hmm, yeah. Well, while we’re talking Beverly Hills, we got a really interesting email yesterday. So it is from Full House of Beverly Hills, subject Aunt Becky, and it says, bravo. Always had an eye out for Lori Laughlin to joy, true. Oh, I love having you on, Kate. This is so great. They always had an eye out for Lori Laughlin to join Beverly Hills, but she always turned it down after her husband. Oh, because of her husband, it says, After her scandal and looming divorce, Bravo is still interested, and she is now open to the idea which would track. But if she doesn’t do that, she should do a show with her two daughters, yeah. Oh, I kind of, I think I was wondering if, when we were talking about next gen, if one of her daughters would be on that show, they make too much money on their own. They don’t need that. They don’t need it. They’d be like, That’s low, bro, yeah, although they were, there were kids circling the wagons for because it was supposed to be like an LA version there, or they’re working on an LA one, actually. And I, like every celebrity kid I could, even I’ve heard so many people claim for that job. Well, it makes sense. It’s been Bravo’s biggest hit, Olivia Jade. She’s She, I’m telling you, she’s I can make way more money just making my own videos and do my own thing. Yeah. So the last bit of the email says preliminary discussions are already in the works for season 16, as filming would begin next summer and schedules need to be cleared. What do you would you like to see her on this what do you think? Oh, absolutely. I think it’d be great. I think that is a good PR and good business move. If I were eugenic, go book it right now. She is gonna have because it’s gonna have to be on a little bit less boring. She’s a little boring. She’s gotta bring it up, but that’s why I think her own show wouldn’t be as good as Beverly Hills, but she has to have the kids on because everybody because then she brings in the younger viewers. Because the younger ones, Olivia and Isabella, like people of a certain age group, are obsessed with everything that they wear, who they’re dating. Olivia goes out with hot guys. She goes out with what’s his name, the really hot guy from Jacob. Jacob valori, yes, Ari and Becky, to me, has always been one of the most beautiful women. She just has such a beautiful face. I know our kids are really pretty too. So did you see John Stamos came out swinging against her ex husband? Yes, because he did an interview, and he was asked about it, and he basically, he calls on he’s, he’s a narcissist. He makes a lot of money, but he’s a bad guy, and she had to take the fall for him. So in other words, like she had to fall on the sword, even though it was his decision to do the whole varsity blues like shenanigans and God bless. He’s glad they’re not together anymore. And he said, I’ll never talk to them again. I think he they had the thing I read. Yes, I had to read his book for my friend Chelsea Devon’s podcast, which you have to listen to. It’s called glamorous trash, and she reads all the memoirs. So she had me read the John Stamos one with her, and we went through it, and it was like, there was, like, a little romantic dalliance for a little bit. But then she met Massimo, but him, yes, but he referred to her publicly as like, the one who got away, yeah, but she met Massimo. And Massimo, is he that my general? Yeah, he’s a Okay, let me tell you this one thing. I remember everything. It’s like years ago I’m watching Oprah Winfrey, and Oprah is doing a tour of this is when Massimo sold the business to target, and he really made a shit ton of money. So they’re doing a tour, and they have this, like house. It was in Laguna Beach, and the cameraman’s asking, or the producers, when did you guys know when, like, they hit it big and posted the two of them with their big house in the background? And she starts to kind of answer, and then he, like, interrupts her, and he goes, I can tell you when I married you, and I thought, Oh my God, you’re horrible man. And I think I like shaking for her. He was Dan made i You made it big when I married you, although this success is because of me, and don’t forget about it. Oh my god, I initially enjoy you. Meant like he made it big when he married her. Oh no, this designer who he sold his his stuff to target, and then he makes money. But meanwhile, she’s been working forever and was famous. I think she’s been waiting in the wings. So there’s she seemed boring. However, I didn’t know she found the Lord when she went to prison, so who knows, but she could dial it up, or maybe she’ll be like a Rachel Zoe, where they join because they think it’s going to help business. And then someone like a Kate Casey is on, the case is on the cast, and they’re like, Okay, let’s deal with your husband. And then she’s, he was a monster. And then I’m like, game on. And then we love Becky, yeah, I feel like she sound, sounds like she was, like, emotionally abused and even undergone, came out so strong. I just want to say, if I’m John Stamos, his wife, I’m not loving it. Birds are publicly is the one who got away. I don’t know. How’s their marriage doing? Okay. So another, let me tell you another thing about that, yes, doing okay. I think there’s something really weird with John Stamos and Disneyland, and I worry that maybe he.
He had something bad happen to him when he was a kid, because he’s obsessed with Disneyland, and that when adult is obsessed with Disneyland, there’s like, red flags for me. I think that Rebecca Stamos too, or Romaine Stamos, at the time she was Stamos, I he would, they would go on to Disneyland all the time. If I had the opportunity to see her in a dark corner, I would go, what’s the deal with Disneyland? The woman that he’s married. I think they met at Disneyland, and they got married at Disneyland, and she’s significantly younger, and she has a baby. I don’t think they’re on an even playing field, because reading his book, it’s the John Stamos show all day long. All day long, it’s the John Stamos show. There’s something weird going on. But I would also submit to you, I also think Felicity Huffman needs a second chance. She was in the varsity blue situation too, and I know she’s acting now, but like I think she needs a second chance too. So I would throw in Felicity Huffman to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills too. People have always said that she is Salts of the Earth, a really great person, Felicity, at least that I’ve heard. I think it would be interesting. I do want to say John Samus and Lori Laughlin have that kind of chemistry, where maybe they were a couple for a short time, but it seems like the timing was kind of never. And as a kid who grew up in the 80s and 90s, I kind of love that Uncle Jesse and Aunt Becky have each other’s back still, or dies? Total writer dies. He’s like, I say he’s leaving his wife for her. I’m calling it now. I think so I’m really lovely. I wouldn’t be mad about that. I would kind of enjoy to see that from afar. Well, I’d feel bad for the wife and they have a kid together, but I’ve never and I’ve seen him like, I follow him on Instagram, and I do think that he loves publicity. I remember when, oh, he sure does. Yes, yeah. The guy, the one who had cancer, other uncle, not Uncle Jesse, but Uncle, whatever his name was, Uncle Danny, not Danny, whatever. I know what you’re talking about, but like the one who I went with, Alanis Morissette, yeah, Joey, Uncle Joey. Uncle Joey. John Stamos made his cancer battle about him for a minute. And that’s correct. You’re right. You’re right. He was at court with her. I pretended Yes. No, he were a wig. It would have actually been more authentic if he and that’s what the media was saying. This guy’s got to be kidding. Like you you shave your head for your friend. That’s newsworthy, putting a cap over your head, because he would never shave that gorgeous Greek hair? I bet he’s Angie K’s first crush, but I just a good question. Actually, it was, I’m sure. And I do think that he is an egomaniac and totally full of himself. And I believe that in his home, it’s the John Stamos show. The wife isn’t famous. She’s younger. She bows down, correct? Yeah, but he’s a beautiful lady. He’s giving shit about muscle. I’m like, what your relationship is like too? Yeah, that’s
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involved to care what we say. It’s so funny that you said that about Disney people, because I’ve always found it strange when there’s like Disney adults that we’re gonna piss people off. Yeah, I agree with you. I’m honest, a little weird. I was people who do their honeymoon and Disney are absolutely that’s the level I’m talking about. I’m not talking about taking a family vacation. I’m saying you have one opportunity to go away and you show up with matching shirts and you’ve got the ears on and you are clamoring to get the autograph of the girl who’s actually like a senior at Chapman University in the theater department, and you want her signature because she says she’s Princess Jasmine. You’ve lost your mind. You’ve lost the plot. You need some help. That’s what I’m talking about.
Not Chewbacca. It’s a guy who plays on the football team at Mission Viejo High School. I actually have friends. There’s a program through colleges, which, I guess is what you’re referring to. So I obviously live in New York, and I have friends who did like the Florida program. There’s like, a whole world and very prestigious, actually, yeah, it’s very hard to get that internship, the college internship at Disney. Sometimes you’re literally just the person who’s driving the boat across the pond. You’re not asbestos. Your water fine, yeah, you’re just, you’re literally, it’s or you’re all lifeguard at one of the Disney beaches. Like it’s not, but it is. It’s very hard to get and it’s very prestigious. And if that’s what you want, I got blessed, and I and go for it. Absolutely you.
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i Listen, whatever blows your hair back. You’re not hurting anybody. I can’t really. I can’t really. I took really to Disney twice, and I literally was there for a day, and got the hell to my condo on the beach. I was like, All right, one day we’re in, we’re out. Yeah, I feel the same way about renaissance fairs. Like, why? Never been to one? Yeah, yeah. Those are fascinating to me only because I think there’s a whole traveling element of it that people travel because it stays in the same place for three weeks at a time or so. So there’s people who literally are Renaissance carnies, who travel with the Renaissance Fair year round. But then there’s also the people who go full out when it does come in town, and they go in character and a whole interesting subculture, to me, it must be like, the same kind of person who’s like, grandfather would go to Civil War reenactments with the outfits, or, like, pretend to go to Comic Con every year, Like I Oliver Yeah, in an outfit. It’s all a damn flavor of LARPing, yeah? But I just would like to point out that we’re saying this as Amanda and I have created a podcast based on our hobby, which is Bravo so different strokes for difference. You’d be fanatical about things I like as well. It’s just those aren’t the things I like. But it would be different if you showed up to this interview and one one of you is you is dressed as Teresa, and the other one is Margaret. That’s the level of that’s what I’m talking Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so Kate, do you watch Big be dynasty? Of course. And I was one of the first people that watched the show, because we’ve got screeners first season. And I was like, everybody needs to watch the show. And here’s why it’s in the Midwest. There are no shows in the Midwest. It’s a bunch of guys. It’s father son dynamics. You’re not going to see that anywhere else. And they’re really nice people. And I have to say, of all the people that I’ve interviewed, and there have been many, they are some of the nicest people that I’ve ever dealt with. I’m five minutes late. Let me like, I’ll call you from my car. Gracious. Thank you so much for taking the time. So I know that the father committed a crime, and I know he served time. I will probably write him a letter while he’s there and just go. I’m thinking about you. I think they’re really nice people. I’m glad that they did the show. I find the dynamics interesting. Those they’re very good to look at too. The boys are beautiful, even the dad is very handsome, Steve, and they’re weird. They’re authentically themselves. They’re all wacky. And I there’s nothing I love better than a character. And if you are authentically yourself, I’m on board. And Steve McBee showed up to ours topless. So amazing. But again, amazing. He had a tank top on me. It was a skimpy tank top I’m pulling. Isn’t he a riot? Isn’t he a riot? Everything but nipple, we were given everything but nipple, everything. You get a t shirt with that, everything but the nipple. I find that he’s so funny with his granddaughters too, like he raised these boys, and he’s, oh, man, a man, and then he is. He’s like a puddle of tears with the girls. It’s like a crack up. I know. I hope it encourages him to treat women nicer. It definitely seemed like the rest of the country has really caught on. The mcbees is really, it’s really, it’s picked up in terms of audience. And I’m not saying I I’m like a whisper. I’m just saying I’m a whisper. I’m telling you, I got the finger on the pulse this. It’s your job to have your finger on this pulse, and you’re very good at it. Thank you. Thank you. So can I tell you something else to watch right now? Of course, okay, it’s based on a true story. No, I’m unscripted. Is really like my wheelhouse. But this one is scripted, but it’s based on a true story, and it’s five episodes. It’s on Netflix. You can watch it right now. It’s called, Oh God, what is? How was the exact title? They never saw us leave. Oh, God, no, no. It’s, excuse me, no one saw us leave. No one saw us leave. That is the title. It’s based on a true story. It is set in the 1960s in Mexico. And picture it. Valeria Goldberg is married to into this very wealthy, powerful family, and her life looks perfect, but one day, she comes home and her two kids are missing. The husband has kidnapped them, and what follows is this unbelievable multi continent search for the children now, with marriage, was divorced. With they were married like their marriage was seemingly okay. They weren’t separated. Well, you’ll find out all the moving parts of it, but yeah, beginning of is it flashbacks to their wedding, and you have a window into this family that she’s marrying into, and how his father, the husband’s father, It rules the roost. And it’s based on a true story, a book that was written by.
By valeria’s daughter. She’s a daughter and a son, and so I started watching. I got sucked into it because it’s based on a true story, and I’m interviewing the author at the beginning of next week. But it’s like one of those series that everybody is going to start watching. Go, holy shit. What really good. What platform is it on Netflix? Netflix, okay, yeah, this is, like, a good one to and then, like, one of those series two, when you’re trying to find something to watch with your husband, and it’s like, you want to watch that reality, they want to watch war movies. Yeah, you got a story of my life. He likes this action and I like more like story based. This is right down the middle. You’re gonna like
it. Oh, now if your husband likes that action stuff. Have you guys watched American manhunt Osama bin Laden on Netflix? Because that’s three episodes where they go through what happened between 911 and then by the third episode, you’re you’re meeting with the Navy SEALs that went in and the how the whole operation worked, getting into an Islamabad American Yeah, American manhunt. Osama bin Laden, I interviewed the not only did I interview the executive producers, they interview all of these women who were the CIA agents who really were responsible for tracking down Obama or Osama bin Laden, and since during the Obama administration, by the third episode, when they get him, it’s the Obama administration. And anyway, all these female agents are highlighted. They’re really the ones that were responsible, and I interviewed one of them. She is, was a sorority sister at USC when she was recruited, and it’s like a year after college. She’s working with George W Bush and the whole administration in these like crazy meetings trying to turn them down. And she’s now a professor at TCU, and her name’s Tracy, and you guys can follow her at the unexpected spy on Instagram, and she keeps you up to date on all international affairs. Oh, fantastic. How does that happen? By the way, how does, how do they pick one person out of I was in a sorority. I can’t think of one person that I was in my story with, and this is with much respect to my How do they pick the one person and just pluck them out and recruit them? Well, I’ll tell you why. Oh, well, she went to a college fair, and she was her roommate, was, like, really into the college fair, and she was going around, and there was, like, a tent for the CIA, and she started talking to them and asking questions, and then submitted an application, then gets a call back, and then another call and another call. Well, one thing that she said that stands out about CIA is that you really kind of have to be somebody who can kind of blend in, and all three of us are off the table right now. There’s no chance in hell, because we’re too like for me, it’s my voice. Yeah, although, like some of the tactics that she used, I thought were really interesting when she talked about her time in the Middle East, getting information from someone. That’s all kind of interesting, but you really have to be someone who got one of the things. In other words, you also have to look like somebody you know, those people who look like somebody you know, but you don’t know them. No, that’s not, that’s not what’s important. She said one of the things that stood out was the when they go back and they interview people in your life, when you’re up for the job, no one kind of remembered her at her high school. That’s so sad, and that’s to you and to me. But that stood out to the CIA was like, Oh, that’s great. That’s that wasn’t a problem to her. She was like, Oh, I didn’t take that personally. I was like, I would take that personally. Yeah, you have to be somebody without any ego. I would be on my way to my relatives hang up. That’s some say. So they know how to found those people. I had my neighbor growing up, went into the CIA, and she was the oldest of a family of five. Was she insignificant to you? Like, unremarkable. Let’s say, well, she was so much older, but my mom said, Yeah, guy, like, I barely paid attention to her. I know, wow, because she told me that story about the high school. I was like, I would be so pissed off. And she’s, Oh, I thought it was a great compliment. I was like, and I am not meant for that, CIA, but I’ll tell you one thing I did say to her, because this is like wackadoo, but you know, I’ve interviewed, I have a 1400 episodes where I’ve interviewed every kind of person. And I said, You know what I find whenever any place I go anywhere, there are two things that are safe questions for me to ask about. And I said, one is, I can ask someone about their grandmother and about the food they ate growing up, and that’s a conversation starter. And I can talk to it for an hour about that, and that’s not offensive in any way. You can’t ask about politics, religion. Also. You can ask about someone’s grandmother. Can grandmother safe? Grandfather, not always a great feeling. Grandmother, safe and the food they ate, and she’s, you know, you might be able to work in the CIA. And I was like, Okay, now I’m back on. I’m back on. No, you’re too not have at it based a Yeah, but you gotta ask. You have to be able to ask questions blonde. Quite frankly, somebody is blonde, as you human, no, she’s blonde. She’s blonde. Yeah, she worked in the Middle East too, which is okay city and blend, does it blonde in the Middle East? Well, I guess. Well, yeah, you have a lot of head covering already. Sure. Yeah, that makes sense.
Kate, tell everybody where they can find you. I can be found anywhere, on any platform for podcast, reality, life with Kate Casey, you can also get my episodes on YouTube. I’m on Twitter, blue sky and threads at KKC, Instagram, at KKC, CA and Tiktok. It’s Kate Casey. What’s really important for you to know is that what to watch list, which is going to be essential for you every Monday, I’m going to break down for you what to watch an unscripted TV and the great thing is that’s in different categories. So I’m, like, a huge sports person. I cover sports, true crime, reality dating, pretty much anything under that umbrella. And I’ve got six episodes a week. Monday’s my what to watch episode, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, our interviews, and then Saturday. I’ve got a Saturday series where I get to interview guests who have unbelievable personal stories, like this girl this Saturday, she had a baby after a one night stand, and when he was 15 months, he died after he was in daycare, and he was wearing one of those Amber necklaces. Remember people used to put them on for teething, something happened, and they said the death was by strangulation. So she became this huge baby advocate, where, like baby safety advocate after a couple years, and becoming sober because she went through a season of grief, she decides to be a single mother by choice, and she gets a donor. And that story is kind of crazy, too, and then she goes on a date, and she kind of films in on tick tock. I’m gonna go in this crazy like, just follow my month this if I’m gonna this guy ends up falling in love with a guy and they just had twins, oh, and he’s adopting the son that she had. Oh, I’m having a donor. So it’s just a great story. So it’s like a lot of people that have great stories who like, why is there not a TV show about you? That should be a movie? Yeah, maybe it will be with Kate. Kate, thanks so great having you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, everybody. Bye, guys,
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