180. Farewell to Diane; The Osefos arrested; NextGen NYC exclusive tea; RHONJ filming plans

Goodbye to Diane Keaton, and why we will miss her. Sometimes, we say things that have a very short shelf life. Last week was a record. Not even 12 hours after we recorded last week’s podcast talking about what standup people we thought Wendy and Eddie Osefo from RHOP are, we heard the news that they were both arrested for insurance fraud. For those of you who were laughing when you listened to the pod last week, we were too. NextGen NYC exclusive gossip. Kim Zolciak has herself in the middle of another divorce drama, and one of our Cocktailers had a front row seat to some of it, and of course reported back to the rest of the Cocktailers. RHONJ exclusive tea plus our thoughts on how the sit-down between Teresa, Joe and Melissa is going to go down. 

What’s up? Cocktails? How are you? Amanda? Hi B Hi cocktailers. I know we have a lot to cover. There are a lot of criminals, and they need our attention.
I just first want to take a moment to acknowledge Diane Keaton’s passing. I don’t know about I feel like I know about Amanda, and I feel like our listeners are very aligned to us. This one really hit me. We grew up watching her. I grew up watching her. She was a magnificent actress. But beyond that, for me, she just had an incredible magnetic energy, and I saw so I was really affected by it, and I hadn’t there was another time I can remember recent that I was very affected, and that was Robin Williams when he passed. And I also think with him, it was also his, his cause of death, which was suicide, which really made it hurt that much more. And I started thinking to myself, like, this kind of isn’t normal, that like, I was so mopey all day, and like, you know, truly grieving. And then I saw a quote, and I wanted to share it with you guys, if you’ve ever felt this way about the loss of whether it was Diane Keaton or Robin Williams or any celebrity who was special to you. And the quote said it’s okay if Diane Keaton’s death is hitting you harder than you expected when someone’s art, humor or presence has become a part of your life for years, even from afar, their loss is personal. Maybe you grew up watching her movies with family. Maybe she reminded you that you could be quirky, emotional, imperfect and still lovable. The connection matters. Grief doesn’t require a personal relationship. It just requires that someone meant something to you. So if you’re feeling sad, nostalgic or off today, that’s completely valid. I know I feel like I have a lot of things to say. I do agree with you in that it hit me hard. You have to think about especially kind of with our generation, Diane Keaton. Her name has always been up there with the best actresses of our time. But what I always really liked about Diane Keaton, and noticed from a young age, is that, you know, yes, Diane was an icon, but I want to say almost an i.
Class. And I say that in the most flattering of ways. What does that mean? Iconoclast? It means a person who is known for kind of going against the grain. There are biblical connotations to that too, and that’s not what I mean, and that’s why I’m saying I mean it in the most flattering of ways. Like Steve Jobs was considered an iconoclast, like somebody like a pioneer, yeah, but somebody who does it their own way and is known for that, and that’s what I always thought, because I have noticed that, and like I said from a young age, that she really wrote her own rules about her fashion, about the way she carried herself, the roles that she chose to accept, I always looked up to her as that person who forged her own path in Hollywood, because you and I were not part of the Hollywood world, but we’re smart enough to know that sexy, and you know, that’s what tends to get attention in Hollywood. And I can imagine there was probably, and she never talked about this, but there was probably a lot of pressure to dress sexier, to take sexier roles. So I always I want to read her book, because I wonder if she’s, did you read it? Because I wonder if she spoke about that in it. I feel like she might have, yeah. And so I would love to hear more about that, because that was something I always really looked up to her, and literally, as a as a kid, seeing that she would wear the big baggy pants and have that very cool kind of almost Menswear fashion that literally nobody else wore or did or stood for, and so I always respected the hell out of that. So rest in peace. Diane Keaton, we will really miss you. Okay, so last week, we decided, okay, guys, I talk about how much our words mean. I want you to know that at 4pm on October 8, Amanda and I sat and you guys heard it. You heard us go on and on about which, what lovely stand up people Wendy and Eddie osifo are. So imagine my shock when in my DMs, prior to TMZ posting, it was some sort of document allegedly looking like they had all these indictments and charges against them. And I, you know, I’m not a huge AI person. I’ll be very honest with you guys. I’m not as you know, I’m not hugely tech savvy. I’m not really AI, but I put it into my Google and I clicked AI news like all the things, and I didn’t see anything. So thank you to whomever works in the courthouse that got me these records prior to anyone posting it publicly. And I only wish that I hadn’t thought so highly of the OSI FOS, because I literally didn’t do anything, and within 10 minutes, because it was a while, and it was like troubling me, like I was sitting around going, what was that? But there are all these AI accounts now, and we all see them on Facebook. I just saw what. You assumed it was AI. You assumed it was an AI story and an AI mug shot, because that was well, and then when I saw the mug shot, I was like, This can’t be real. Like I laughed. I was like, wow, if you’re gonna pick something, you could have at least made them look halfway normal. Oh, no, that was their mug shot. So our little speech on how wonderful they were aged, I think it was about 12 hours, 12 hours, middle class Songer, yeah. So, yeah. So for those of you guys, I’m sure you have at least heard about this, but last Thursday night, Wendy and her husband, so from Potomac and her husband Eddie, were indicted and arrested. Wendy on 16 counts, seven of which were felony, and Eddie on 18 counts of insurance fraud and essentially misrepresenting to authorities were the what the charges were, and as time came out, like that day, Friday was absolutely nuts, because, you know, nobody had Eddie’s reports charges, yeah, so I was able to find those. We’re getting them on. We’re working with Perry. We’re going back and forth as we’re getting more and more news. The sheriff in Carroll County did a Facebook Live press conference about this. Then as the day goes on, we’re hearing more and more and we’re seeing more and more damning, I think, damning evidence, including emails between the two of them, we found out that $20,000 worth of merchandise that they reported was stolen was actually returned, that some of the jewelry reported as missing, Wendy was later photographed wearing it, things like that. So it doesn’t look good. We’ll just put it that way here. Okay, so yeah, a lot of you guys asked, like, how much time will they get? And we’re gonna get to Steve McBee, who was just sentenced today. I actually, I will get into it a little bit more, but I actually think his outcome might be good for them. But I digress, an attorney cocktail or let me know that.
That if they get federally charged, they’re looking at six months to three years, they will do time for wire fraud. It’s very serious. Not sure about state law, but being indicted without your knowledge is never a good sign. Yeah, this attorney went on to say, insurance fraud, state and federal wire fraud, or has have different elements. They could be charged with both. They also have multiple counts of fraud, she said, so like simple fraud first offenders the typical sentence six months to three years. She continued to say, it’s going to be interesting to see what happens. But these are very serious charges. And she wondered what kind of debts they had to do something so stupid. And actually, after she sent this to me, the authorities confirmed, I believe they they worded it like incredible debt or substantial. They substantial. At the time they were in substantial debt. Yeah, so here’s my and I know that there’s a million ways we can go and a million questions we can ask. I first of all, I’m shocked. I am stunned. I am the most surprised. And not everybody is right, and this is just my perception. I am the most surprised by this of any of the big scandals we’ve had on Bravo. And the reason being is, first of all, Eddie is an attorney, so one would imagine that he wouldn’t be putting in writing in emails to his wife. Hey, we got to get these claims to our limit, which is 450 so what else can we throw on here? Like, why? Because you just think he was just so sure they wouldn’t get caught. Well, I think, and again, when we had our zoom, somebody pointed this out. And it makes perfect sense, which is why I love our zooms. And I just love interacting with you guys. By the way, we had, for those of you guys who didn’t, we did an emergency zoom on Monday night, and there was a lot of conversation. I mean, this is what the majority of the conversation was about. And we have such talented and educated cocktails. We had somebody weighing in from an attorney standpoint. We had somebody weighing in from an insurance company standpoint. So I just wanted to add that. So when the first check cleared for the $25,000
I think that the assumption was, oh, the money’s coming in. We’re good. They believe it. Which the people who work in insurance were on our zoom, were like, Yeah, they’ll they’ll send you checks. But they’re working, actively working. And this is standard operating procedures. So if you file a claim, they have Task Force who, like, start to look into it, and if everything looks legit, they probably stop. But when things aren’t adding up, which they weren’t adding the police report didn’t add up, like, just nothing added up. It doesn’t look like there was any break in at all, like it looks completely staged, which I think, initially, and this is based on a press conference and other details that have come out. And I won’t bore you by going into all the details. We’ll just try to do a summary. But I think my initial thought was okay, so they got robbed, and they decided to say more was stolen than was stolen. Not nice, not right, but you can kind of see people doing it. But here’s the thing, it looks like no robbery happened. And my thing is this, okay. First of all, she’s wearing the jewelry that she claimed was stolen this season. Now, this happened before filming last season. You mean to tell me that the other women on Potomac weren’t suspicious that Wendy had a robbery in her home that she never really posted about. She only spoke about it in one place, which, it was an interview with Gibson because there had been an article in TMZ, and he asked her about it. She spoke about it nowhere else. She never mentioned it during the season. And this happened right before she picked up filming for last season. To me, that’s the biggest indication that, on top of all the evidence that the authorities told us they had, her not making it a storyline, is because she didn’t want to focus on something that wasn’t legitimate. Well, yeah, because, you know we know too. Just from talking to real housewives and hearing them interviewed before a season filming starts, they sit down with the production team to talk through what their possible storylines are. So they would have had this conversation with production too, but there’s usually robbery, right? Yeah. So production would have been like, do you want to talk about this? And then she would have had to say no. And maybe she said something like, no, because I don’t want my children seeing it. I don’t want them being scared. I don’t, you know, there are legitimate reasons you could say, none of which I believe. I believe. What was her storyline quitting being a professor, which, by the way, she technically didn’t, because she was fired from Wesleyan University. She was still teaching the social media class. What was her storyline making up with her in laws? Kind of not really. They were at a party and Cathy, we’re about to find out, like we’re gonna have our magnifying glasses out and watching her, you know, like again. This also always makes me think in a situation like this, is the foot all of the footage going to be subpoenaed. You know, will there be? It’s the audacity just never stops being shocking to me in cases like this, that I think the other really interesting thing to.
Point out was that authorities were called and were immediately suspicious, because there was no no dirt that would have been on like an intruders feet that would have come in like from coming in on the roof, like they had said when the investigators were coming in and out to see how the the quote, unquote intruder, would have done it. They were tracking stuff in. They were immediately, immediately suspicious. Because the other thing is, is, there’s never been a robbery in their neighborhood, which would raise eyebrows, you know, and then, and then, for Wendy, anyway, it’s we will all be watching. I do feel like and we said, I said this on the zoom the other night, but I do start to wonder what Bravo does from here. I feel like we’re kind of a crossroads as far as Bravo continuing to platform people who are allegedly say something though, sure, I kind of have a little bit of a different perspective. Okay, I remember back to when Jackie Goldschneider first joined New Jersey, and she said, like, about Theresa, if you could control your husband, do you think he’d be in jail? And then she revealed that her parents had been arrested for tax evasion, and her father served six months sentence. Is it possible that the Lisa Barlow lawsuit that the serve a few months situations that tax evasion. Is it possible that these things are kind of more common than we know, but maybe we don’t realize it, because people end up with short sentences and, or they, you know, they’re able to just do probation or supervise and because and or obviously paid debts like we’re we’ll get to McBee and hit the millions he has to pay. But is it possible that fraud is much more common than we realize, and it’s just that people are not like? Are people we know have like? Do you understand what I’m saying? No, I do. Are we everyone paying the right amount of taxes? Amanda?
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I mean him. I personally do not know anybody who’s been to prison that you know of? I mean, I don’t. I think I do. I know people who’ve been to prison. I know people who have been to like, county jail, but that’s like the sober tank you’re talking about. What? Not prison. It was not me. No, I have never think about it. Ever Should I have never been arrested. Oh my gosh. Don’t even put that out there. That’s scary to me. I would not last. I would last drunk in like, a, like, lock up tank, but I wouldn’t last beyond that. But, like, Aldrich, prison means you have been sentient and you like, it’s not like lock up, where you get thrown in the drunk tank, or you, whatever I’m saying, prison, okay, right? Hide. You’re not gonna let it. Let’s put this in perspective. What I’m saying is, how many housewives are there over the course of the start, from one season wonders to whatever? Got to be over 100 Yeah, four or five of them are like, have legal issues. You got the mcbees Now you got Theresa. Think about there’s that, that fraud watch or Bravo fraud watch. That’s forget the name. I apologize. Okay, I don’t think drunk driving. Yeah, and Lillian, which is something that has likely happened to people that you know, and they don’t publicize it, because your first offense usually is a slap on the wrist, a suspended license, and no one’s going to be like, Hey, by the way, did you know I went to jail for a DUI, unless you’re their employer. How would you know? So I’m talking Well, Jen Shah and Eddie and Wendy, Teresa, Judy, there’s only three or four of them out of hundreds of housewives. And I don’t even mean housewives. I mean like, the southern charm, the southern hospitality, like, right? If you put it in that perspective, because everyone’s like, Oh, it’s the pipeline to whatever. But you’re also.
Dealing with wacky personalities. So when you consider they’re people more likely to do crazy shit,
I was gonna say, No, it’s casting me. It’s like it’s no one’s casting boring people. You’re casting very outgoing, delusional people. I mean, do they want to just hear about how I’m carpooling like, three hours a day on certain days a week. No, if people listen to our conversations that didn’t, that weren’t like talking about reality stars, they would be bored to tears. I think those lives, and that’s why we’re not they’re not on TV, right? So I do think that like fraud and not paying taxes and getting audited and have and owing money. I think it’s more common than you realize. Well, I think you are starting to touch on something that I think it’s a little bit more of a chicken and egg thing, because, yes, I think there’s a certain kind of personality that gets drawn to being on to on reality television. I also think that when it comes to some of those tax kind of stuff, some of these reality stars, you know, are all of a sudden, paid all this money all at once, and they’re not paid on, you know, like a regular salary paycheck. They’re paid as contractors, so it’s all at once, and it’s their job to then hold aside the taxes, which is where, you know, I can see how there would that would happen for some of those people. But I also think too some of these people get so caught up into living this lifestyle and wearing these head to toe fenby jumpsuits and Balenciaga everything that they have to turn to crime. Because the reality is, is, most people, they’re left with no choice. Well, I mean, or they just don’t wear it, or they wear fakes, and I think, I mean, the vast majority of people cannot afford all designer everything there. That’s it’s a 1% kind of situation, and so I can see, but I do think that there is a certain personality type that gets attracted to being on television like this, and I think those people tend to be a little bit more willing to do whatever it takes to stay in the spotlight. And they, you know, I’m guessing the like we know, the OSEP has got into some substantial debt. Well, let’s move on to Steve McBee. Yes, very much. Knew that he was committing insurance fraud on his farm when he signed up for a reality show. So, yeah. So today, he was sentenced, if you guys will remember, so Steve McBee senior is, you know, the was the dad, essentially, of all of the boys, was not featured almost at all. Just barely in season we saw about the wedding, yes, heavily featured in season one. And now we had learned that the reason being for that is because he was under federal investigation, which he then pled guilty to, insurance again, crop insurance fraud. And so that had happened earlier this year, and part of that deal is when he did get sentenced, that his sentence would not be eligible for early release due to good behavior, which so many people’s are, as we’ve seen most recently with Karen huger and we know Jen Shah is getting out right around Thanksgiving, which is next month wild. So he took the deal that he took, said that, you know, he must have given more, I’m guessing, so that he also he can’t have his sentence lessen due to good behavior. But also, I read that his boys cannot be tried for this crime as well. At GD, it your career isn’t just a job, it’s a mission. Deliver cutting edge cyber that impacts our nation’s defense. Apply AI to improve the health of our citizens. Develop software that drives critical mission advantage. Build a career with meaning and momentum. Explore how you can grow your career at GDI t.com/careers
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Hi, I’m Dr. Jake Goodman, host of beyond the script, the podcast where I sit down with pharmacists to answer the health questions you didn’t even know you could ask at the pharmacy counter. In this episode, we are diving into gut health with CVS pharmacist Victoria Mottola, who explains why so many of us live with stomach issues we should not accept as normal.
A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches, like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat. I.
And it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh, yeah, you know, I just, I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut, you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive, we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication, and then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
Hear the full conversation, plus some fascinating facts about how gut health affects so much more than just your stomach. On beyond the script a podcast from CVS pharmacy and I Heart Radio. Listen now wherever you get Your podcasts.
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I would like to give credit to him. Where credits do I like that? Yeah,
he took the hit for the boys, yeah, and that’s assuming we know that’s the boys were involved or not, and Galina. Galina would be the one that I would be the most suspicious about knowing he took the hit for her too. I think he did. But yeah, he also so 24 months in prison, and he has to pay over $4 million in restitution. So when I posted it, which was just moments ago, but of course, immediately some of the comments were, which means he’ll be out in a year due to good behavior. But you’re saying that’s not possible, because that’s what I read. Okay, we’ll see. I mean, I believe that. Again, I have no person knowledge of prison. I told that everything is really overcrowded, so who knows? My understanding is Steve mcbees For and again, it’s obviously different states. It’s Missouri versus Maryland. My understanding is the McBee insurance case was on a much larger scale than Wendy and Eddie’s. Would I be correct in that? Yes, like theirs was like millions, obviously, if he owns four, yeah, anywhere, the same was like $3 million
and yeah, the osefos was either 200,000 or 400,000 I keep reading both, but you have to remember too, like, I don’t remember how many counts, how many counts that Steve went up for? But yeah, another issue, it’s not just insurance fraud. It’s also false reporting to authorities that the osefos are also on the hook for, I believe, which, but I would imagine Steve probably lied to the authorities too. No, no, because he just it. I don’t want to say just that makes it sound like I’m justifying it, but he just turned in, he turned in a false claim because it was about his crops that they didn’t, from what I read it, the issue was that he said that his crops died, so he but they actually did it, and he sold them, kind of under the table elsewhere, and then got the did the claim, which was also by saying, you know, I planted all this, but it didn’t come. I need the insurance money because it didn’t. And one wonders how many times Stevie boy has done this and gotten away with it, because, remember, he was on the show talking about and they’re mad at me because I have another insurance claim. Yeah, I mean, from it sounds like, and I do happen to know a little bit about, just a tiny bit, as I’ve had, like, family and family friends that has been in farming. Insurance claims are part of farming. It is a part of the deal. Herds of cows get out and then go missing or get stolen, things, you know, or the weather. There’s droughts like these. Things do happen, which is why it’s there, but you can’t take advantage of it. Got it. What I don’t know is if he’s immediately having to report to prison, like a day, he go immediately, or did he exactly? Yeah, it happened. The results came out, and we were happy enough that we had the result to share. But I didn’t get a chance to really dive into the detail. Yeah, literally. Breaking news just now. Okay, so I do have good news, guys, it’s not all doom and gloom. Yes. Where do you want to go next I want to go to next gen. Okay, you guys know it’s been the most viewed Bravo show, the most viewed premiere. So we know that they’ve got a hint, a hit. We’ve been get we’ve got an email saying, like, Bravo and NBC Universal are going all in on next gen. They feel like it’s the next big their next big series or next big franchise. So we mentioned this last week, we heard that Riley Burris, so candy Burris, daughter from Atlanta, may not be coming back. And then we did get a confirmation from our sources.
That she’s not currently filming, not meaning that she might not be brought in later, but that she’s not currently filming. We had heard that she asked for a lot of money, which we both said, Good for her. So I went on a whole rant. Was that last week that I went on that I decided that the if it’s true that she’s not filming, I think she asked for a big check, because I had a theory that maybe she, I’m not saying she’s immediately leaving New York, but maybe listen, most successful show on Bravo, if you say yes, you’re kind of tying yourself to New York for years. Yeah. So I was thinking she may try to hold out for big money, and which so cameras picked up and she’s not filming. That doesn’t necessarily mean she’s not filming all season, so I don’t want us to see her. And you’d be like, Oh, I’m just letting you know she was holding out for big money. So let’s see where that goes. It does make me feel sad, though. So I had this whole theory, and you guys heard it. I think about how maybe she’s going to be the face of Atlanta, Atlanta, because I was the next season 2026 we’re gonna see next gen LA, and then after that, they’re gonna keep rolling them out, because it’s very popular. And I feel like Atlanta’s a great city, and I feel like Riley maybe was holding out to be the face of that one, yeah, if it’s a couple years away, the other argument it is she could have done and she still could do the second season and then transition. So let’s see. But I’m kind of bummed if she chooses not to film all season. And the reason I’m bummed is because, unfortunately, we had posted in cocktail for our subscribers that Ariana and her boyfriend Hudson had broke up. And sadly, that is true. Yeah, they put out a statement earlier this week. Both of them did. So I actually have a question for you and on your and this is not I’m not asking for your inside knowledge. I am asking for what you think. Do you think the breakup had something to do with the marriage, with her saying, I want to get married after we’ve been together by a certain what is that word? Why am I struggling when she said, if we don’t get married, if we don’t get engaged by ex. I’m out. Do you think it had something to do with that? I think the pressure may have been there. I’ve been hearing rumors, and I don’t have any confirmation that we may see a GIA engagement. That’s just a rumor. And there is that thing. And I think we can all remember when we were younger, or if you are younger, sometimes when one friend gets engaged, or one person in the social groups. I’m not saying they’re best friends, but they’re obviously spending time together. Other friends do feel the pressure, like, Well, why isn’t he proposing to me? And I know in my life, it did lead to splits. Yeah. I also think we heard a lot first season about how Arianna was responsible for helping Kim financially. We know that Hudson often was helping Arianna financially. So if she was helping Arianna financially, he was helping him financially. So I think that that was added stress. We don’t know Hudson’s family, but I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that, if he comes from wealth, his parents were likely not pleased that he was supporting his girlfriend’s mother. Yeah, I can’t imagine most families would feel that way, and when your family is not fully on board or approving, it affects you. So I think it was a combination of a lot of factors. Maybe it was a situation where Hudson didn’t want to break up, but he wasn’t ready for a marriage commitment because of the difficult situation they were in with Kim, and they called it. I really liked them together, and they are both very young, so I think, and they’ve had an on and off relationship, and you know, they were very honest about that. Yeah, so I think that, I don’t know if this is a forever thing, but I do hear that he’s not filming, so I venture to say he’s no longer in New York. She was posted a video today moving into a new apartment, and Riley posted, can’t wait for our apartment. I think that was a joke. I think she Riley lives in Brooklyn, and I think Ariana may have lived moved to Brooklyn, and I’m sure Riley said it as like, ooh, we’ll have a place just your girl’s spot, because in the video, Ariana says, This is the first time I’ve ever been the only one on a lease, and I’m living on my own. Ah, so I’m thinking maybe Riley wasn’t planning on filming. Do you think Ariana can convince her to come back, because now her and Hudson are split? I would watch that show. I hope so. I hope so. So we have to talk about Kim. We’ll see. I have to talk. Oh, wait, just because a lot of people always ask about Charlie. Yes, I do hear Charlie’s filming. I don’t see him on the list for Bravo con Yeah, but I do hear he’s filming, I just have to say it’s rare. I think that we have this person. But while Charlie is a good reality television protagonist, he’s not exactly the guy that people are dying to see at a meet and greet. So I think he’s the person who can get away with not doing bravocon. But filming, does that make sense? I think yes, but I think that Bravo knows that he’s not a crag right? But I will tell you guys, as far as the most searched thing on our website right now still is Charlie zakour, and Charlie zakour His parents and things about him. So I think there’s a lot of fan interest. I just think that he.
He’s probably like, let’s be honest. I’m not gonna be I’m not gonna be your Bravo Contest, which makes him an interesting reality person. It really does. Okay. So. Kim wolciak, I love it when there’s a story that is really just like a little thing that a cocktail or sends us, and then it comes back and turns into a much bigger thing. I don’t know if you saw this Us Weekly. This week reported that Kim Zolciak is being subpoenaed by a man named Kyle, by his wife, I guess, soon to be ex wife in their divorce. Because you know, when you actually go to court, you can call witnesses and saying that that he gave her gifts, and that she’s saying that the ex wife is saying that they had an affair. So we had a cocktail her, who was on the plane with them, and she was like, I think they might be going to the same place. Ended up staying at the Baja Mar in the VIP. So do you want to read what this cocktail or told us this was back in June, I do, and thank you so much cocktail, or for reminding me of this, because I didn’t even remember and put it together. Okay, so back in June, I get a DM, and again, this was in cocktail party, and it said, first the woman was on the plane with Kim. She’s like, Oh, my God, I’m on the plane with Kim. I don’t even, oh, wait here. It’s all in this. Let me read it. B I’m staying at the VIP section of Baja Mar Nexus. Met Kim zolziak. She’s staying here with a Croy look alike. I overheard her calling him Kyle. And her daughter Brielle, and brielle’s boyfriend are here too. Kim’s super nice. Actually, she was definitely being loud, almost like she wanted to be recognized. The VIP area she’s staying in is the same area the southern charm people stayed that was last season when they stayed there. Kim was calling the guy with her babe the whole night. I had actually totally forgotten about this. Oh, wait, that’s me saying it. So this same person saw her on the plane with the guy, and she was like, oh, lovey dovey on the plane. I had totally forgotten about this blind like we post so many times a day. So when you guys remind me, never, don’t remind me, because sometimes Amanda people be like, I’m sorry from being annoying, but remember when you posted and I’m like, you never, that is never annoying. God, bless those people, because I don’t remember. Like, there are so many times you guys remind us that we already had stuff posted. Yeah. So thank you to our loyal subscribers, who seriously are our memories as people with better memories than we have? Yes, it’s a collective brain. Okay, so the minute I saw that guy’s picture, when I was reading this article, I was like, he is like a less buff Croix. So today he’s as cute as Croy, but I mean, no at the same coloring kind of peaches and cream skin. Call it fair, reddish blonde hair. So today, and TMZ and you posted the article, TMZ reported that Croy called the wife, so the wife who’s in this going through this divorce, to warn her about Kim, and he told her that Kim would quote, unquote, drain money from Kyle, the husband and Kim had already put Instacart grocery deliveries on his card. Croy called Kim a narcissist with a gambling problem who was never around for her children. This is what he told the woman, obviously cold, but when you go, you guys know I’m divorced. I can never imagine ever somebody like I wouldn’t I? It just makes me think, like either quite a went out of his way to call this woman he’s either mad or he still has feelings. Because why else would you do that? Like, that’s it just makes him look crazy.
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first of all, I think that I don’t think you’re married to someone like Kim Zolciak for as long as Croy was and have Four kids with her and you’re not also crazy. You guys know, you already know that. I don’t think you can be married to somebody and not be of course, there’s personality differences. As far as like, She’s outgoing, he’s more reserved, but I think that your morals are generally aligned. I don’t think I’d ever thought that Jen Shah’s husband wasn’t okay with what she did. They never got divorced like he clearly, you know what I’m saying. I don’t believe that people’s can be in long term relationships like that without, in other words, knowing who the other person really is, right? Croy knew who she was. Cry. I’m just saying cry is almost the crazier one in this situation, because, like, I said, like, I could never imagine that’s just always is not something I would never do. I can’t and we’ve seen plenty of footage when the cops are always called to his house where he was acting psychotic and erratic too. I don’t think core is so normal. No, I think that on television, the Croy that we saw was very curated and very like it almost pisses me off when someone is like that, like to where everybody calls Kim crazy. I knew Kim was this and Kim was that, oh, but Croy is so great. Oh, Croy is just like her. He just knows how to play it off. At least Kim’s honest about who she is and wears it on her sleeve. And I do think it said, and I hope it’s not true that she’s not there for her children. I mean that I wrote that part. I wrote that off, though, as somebody who’s either still mad or still has feelings and is still trying to control, it just came off as well. Also that was true. I think he would have been able to win full custody. Yeah, so I agree, because the kids are old enough that they can talk about it, and if the kids would say if she’s never there. So, yeah, so Kim stays in the news feed. The old girl stays in the news. Good for her. I do have some OC reunion Intel, and I actually have some stuff I was told I could only talk about on the pod, but code and writing, I love that, but I don’t, because then we forget we did it first cocktails. Know this, but Slade and Ryan did not show at the reunion, so they were scheduled, along with Matt Katie janella’s husband, to come out, but they did not show what first. What are your thoughts on that? So we talked a little bit about this before it definitely seems it seems shady. I question though, whether could Ryan not coming have something to do with him and Jen’s relationship? Oh, we didn’t require this. Yeah, so weird that we didn’t. I’m sorry. That’s okay, but I think it’s very telling, and I do think it’s interesting that we’re the only ones that have reported so other people have shared that little snippet from our podcasts, but we we definitely have been the exclusive on this.
So here’s the other tea, and I have a bunch. I was just going through my DMs. So you guys might have noticed that Gretchen posted something the day after the ring behind filming, like today was a good day. Apparently, Tamara was very much in the hot seat, which was kind of unexpected. I think we expected Gretchen to get the heat, but, and I don’t specifically know, but it was not a good day for Tamara. And what I’m hearing is regards to Katie coming back is, and I this source is very in tune. We’ll say that they said they think it’s 5050, they think it’ll depend on how fans feel about Katie after the reunion, producers definitely did listen to fan reaction to Katie getting bullied off the show. Specifically, production focused on Emily and Gina doing that yeah and confessionals had wrapped for the season, but production decided to have them come back to film one more about a week or two before the reunion, so the girls all filmed a confessional just a week or two before the reunion. Now we know that over the course of those weeks that the show’s been airing, a lot has changed, so it seems, and this is just my opinion, but based on all of this information, it seems to me that.
They’re kind of doing that to press Emily and Gina on why they pushed Katie out make them explain themselves a little bit more. Because I think that’s what fans want to hear. I think that makes sense. Because I have been thinking about, okay, if Katie ends up staying on the show, how is that all going to work in terms of filming and having the group accept her again. Because watching, knowing you know that there’s been all this going on behind the scenes, but then watching the last week’s episode and seeing Emily really freaking out about Tamara talking to Katie, I’m wondering if, as Emily was doing that the reason she was actually freaking out was not that Tamara actually was talking to Katie, but because Emily realized she went too far and might have pushed herself out of the show instead of Katie. Well, because let’s look at how it would line up. So let’s we know that Tamara and Katie would be together, because Tamara is the one pushing for her back on the show. I venture to say Heather sitting next to Katie on the reunion couch, because that reunion couch was also a big shot, right? I venture to say Heather sitting next to Katie on the reunion couch means that Heather is willing to kind of start anew with Katie. Okay? Because if Tamara kind of pushes her to it, and Heather recognizes that the audience likes her and like, I guess Heather can, two seasons later, get over the you took paparazzi picture that’s never gonna like her, though she is never no but she’s always gonna hold a grudge she could not actively go for her. And I think Heather very much does not want to be and I Okay, I don’t want to make it sound like I think Heather is Heather. Heather disliking Katie, in my opinion, was never at all racially motivated. But if the optics are as Katie being the only POC woman on the cast being pushed out, I think that Heather would, more than anything, not want to be seen at all bigoted. We know how much she is a staunch supporter of the IGBT community, and she would never want to look like somebody who in any way was bigoted, race, gender, sexual orientation, like, Do you know what I’m saying? So I think that. So okay, we got Heather, we got Tamara, we got Katie. If we get Vicki back full time, she’ll go where Tamara goes, because her and Shannon, there’s some weird thing happening there. Tamara is pushing to get Alexis back. I hope it doesn’t go I’m just telling you what I’m hearing on the other side, we have Shannon, who I think likely will be demoted, Emily Gina, Jen Gretchen, if Gretchen’s back, which I hope not. I hope not. Shannon demoted. You have Emily Gina, Jen, it seems like whatever has happened between Jen and Katie is still happening, right? So then I’m just gonna hop back to friends, because that was a real friendship that really had a big issue. Stay tuned, guys, because I will be posting in our subscription site. The more I hear, because I do have very good OC sources. But like I said, Katie is 5050, and I guess it comes down to, and you said it at the top of the OC conversation. Does she have enough support outside of Tamara to be a real player in the game, because she’s not a seasoned housewife, and she’s not good at maneuvering the way Tamara is and turning people on each other. And so I don’t know, yeah, I guess we will have to see the fan reaction after the reunion, because the fans rallied for her, and then when she was off the show, people kind of forgot about her. I don’t miss her. And going back to I understand that I’m speaking from my position as a white woman, right? And I understand that there’s been a lot of privilege that has come with that, but I know that there’s, I know there’s been a lot of conversation about there being racial motivations. I don’t really think, I don’t really agree with that, at least not from what we have seen on camera. You know, there’s so much that we haven’t so obviously that is not what we can’t react to, what we haven’t seen. I think, I just think that Lee, I think Katie, came in to trying to play a sophisticated housewife and sniper from the side, and failed horribly at it. And I don’t think, I just think the lack of authenticity is not something that you know, our the audiences do well with. And so honestly, I, you know, I I want to see that she’s been given a fair chance, but I don’t miss her since she’s been off, I kind of want her back. So I think we’re going to disagree on this. Okay, I think she’s got another season in her. I’m willing to give her another shot. And I just, I like looking at her, like she’s so pretty, and she does this so well. She does she has great taste. I agree with all of that. I just don’t. It’s just like going back and looking at those interviews where Wendy osafo was on, it’s Gibson John’s, I think is his name on his when he was being who was interviewing her, she kept looking up and to the right when he was asking her about the robbery. And I just don’t feel like Katie, I’m not saying I think she’s a liar. I just think that she’s tried to orchestrate stuff, and is bad at it. And I don’t like it. I don’t you know if you’re gonna orchestrate it. I guess be good.
So good at it that I don’t realize you’re doing it. I feel that I hear you.
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A lot of what I see is just like chronic bloating, chronic stomach aches. Like I get a stomach ache every time that I eat, and it just becomes like a lifestyle where, oh yeah, you know, I just I have a stomach ache every day, or I’m constantly feeling like gassy, and all of those things are not something that, generally, if you have a healthy gut you should be living with. So that’s when we deep dive we deep dive into your medication. We deep dive into your OTC medication. And then at that point, we can probably identify something that we can change.
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I think I want her back, because I don’t really see the value in Emily and Shannon being there anymore. So it’s like, get rid of them. Let’s give Katie another shot, and let’s get a couple new people in there, or other OGS, Vicki, whatever I want, before we have to talk about Jersey because, oh my gosh, yeah, it’s just don’t quit. So a few weeks ago, on Jeff Lewis live, you guys already know this, Theresa was asked if she was willing to make amends with her brother, her sister in law and Margaret, she was open to the idea. A few days later, on a red carpet, Melissa and Joe were asked. They said, This is news to us. She has not reached out to us, so she’s saying this on podcast, but there’s been no olive branch. So Theresa must have heard that she went out on her pod and let us know, hey, I texted my brother. We’ve been texting Joe Ben confirmed, yep. And said on the Ed’s podcast that if his sister comes to him humbly, he’d be willing, you know, and open to a conversation. She’s family. He’ll never say never to not speaking to his sister. He acknowledged that he was never the one who said the door was closed, but that he feels that she would need to acknowledge wrongdoing, and they he’d be open to it. So we got an email. I’m gonna read it. A Gorga family affair. Executives at siren media are in talks with Theresa, Melissa and Joe Gorga to film their much anticipated sit down. If everything comes together as planned, the expectation is that production will move forward. Everyone’s been giving them time to work through things privately, and there’s growing optimism that they’ll make amends and move towards a fresh start for the Real Housewives of New Jersey. If reconciliation happens, expect Teresa, Melissa and Dolores to return alongside some new faces, with Margaret, Jackie and Jen Fessler, most likely rounding out the cast, I got to tell you, Jackie and Jen keep getting thrown into these emails. They are not confirmed by sources. I’m not saying it’s not true. I’m just saying the other stuff I’ve heard from both email and source. Jackie and Jen just email, but I’ll finish. FYI as of now, Louis is not in talks to film, and this part I only put in cocktail exclusive. Theresa also reached out to her cousin, Cathy wichili.
I am so fucking down. I don’t care. They were replaying season where they were in the Dominican Republic with the manzos. It’s when Theresa and juicy Joe first started making amends with Melissa and Joe in Punta Cana, and then they did a photo shoot with their parents. It was gold the Kathy drama that this. I don’t know if so many years have passed, if they could bring that magic back, why not give it a shot? I’ll watch. I will too. I so this is all making sense to me, because if you’ll remember, we have and you guys, I think we’ve told you this, but we have some pretty good sources with Jersey as.
All. And, you know, we even, we’ve been talking about test filming, and then we’ve been talking about how the cameras were supposed to go up before the holidays. And then we hear Theresa on. Jeff Lewis lives, I should do it. We should do a timeline of this, by the way. Be then we hear Theresa go on. Jeff Lewis saying, oh, you know, I would be willing to reconcile, or open to reconciling, and then shortly, we hear, wait a second. Cameras are now not going to go up until after the holidays, so it all makes sense to me. I think there’s nothing like I think Theresa will absolutely do it. Now I’m just trying to figure out, how will this all go down? So they meet privately, and then they film a sit down where they kind of each go through their arguments, like, how does this? How does that part work? So a lot of people are like, we don’t want to see that. Like they need to figure it out privately. I however, want to see the actual conversation. I don’t want them meeting before. I mean, and I’m gonna throw Teresa a bone here. I and I said it on the zoom the other night. I think it’s very easy for us all to say, Oh, she’s only doing this for a check. And certainly there is an aspect to that. But I think that when she made the decision not to go, it was on the heels of her brother and sister in law not attending her wedding. Now, I am not saying that they didn’t have reason to be upset with her and make the choice not to attend. That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is I have to imagine how hurtful it was for her. Yeah, whatever she had done, Whatever their reasons were, which were all valid, the reality of her brother not giving in to her and attending her wedding, in light of the fact that her parents are gone. She doesn’t have extended family, the only cousin she had, she doesn’t speak to and so now she’s three years removed from that. She hasn’t seen them. The Press nonsense has largely stopped. They’re not slinging mud at each other anymore, and was watching last night. They were replaying the season like I said, where they made up and there was genuine sibling affection there. And sibling relationships can be very complicated, and thank God, my father is very much alive and well, my mother is gone. And I can’t imagine not having either of my parents and not speaking with my sibling. I think no matter how mad you are, you would get to a point where you at least try, and you don’t have to be at every holiday together, and the days of play dates are over for the cousins. But if they could be civil, if they could have a situation where they meet at a restaurant and they just have a casual dinner, and the kids come and it’s just a, you know, order some food, have some wine, not get too deep into it. The problem is on reality TV. I don’t know how that plays out, but I don’t know. I don’t think it’s fair to say that Theresa only wants it for the check. I think it is very much possible that three years later, she misses her brother, and I don’t know what’s going on in her marriage, but I do know that she continues to have financial issues, as does her husband, and she has a lot of stress, and maybe I don’t want to even go there. Maybe things aren’t so hot on the home front for her, I don’t know. I have a question, though, okay? Because first of all, I want to say, I think with Joe, as you said, Never said the door is closed. I think for him, he probably does want to reconcile television or No, I think the fact that he is no longer in his niece’s lives, I think, must be really painful for him. My question for you, if you think that, let me give you a little situation. Theresa wins $200 million in the lottery tomorrow. No longer needs the check. No longer needs a check for life. Do you think she’s as willing to do this in that case? Do you think she’s she’s she still wants to reconcile? I think there’s an incentive, obviously, for the show, but outside of the show, I always felt like Louis wouldn’t want it. So I think it’s a hard question to answer, because I think that if Louis said to her, you know, What, did your brother forgive him? Yes, I do believe that with or without the show, she would want to however, I think Louie’s okay with it because of the check. So he’s giving her the go ahead because they need the check. But I honestly think, listen, Joe Giudice was never a huge fan of Joe Gorgas either, but he understood that it was her brother, and he kind of let it go and moved on. And whatever he never like, Louie was really the one being like and we’ll never speak to them again. And then it became Theresa’s script. But remember, they had arguably worse family fights and situations prior to Louis being there, and they always forgave and made amends. So I very much believe that, yes, I think Theresa would have been mad and maybe ice them out for a while, but I think she would have come around. I don’t think she’s ever gonna fully love Melissa. I think there’s always something there for whatever reason. There’s a jealousy, there’s a dislike, there’s a distrust, there’s something I don’t believe she places a lot of blame on her brother, even though, in the media after the wedding, she was saying that to me, that was like Louis in her head. I don’t.
Really believe she to answer your question? Yes, I do believe she did. But I believe that Theresa is a woman who always follows her husband’s lead, so when Joe was okay with her making up, she was able to do it, and when Louis wasn’t, she wasn’t. Yeah, I don’t know. I think Bravo knew what they’re doing. They’re putting pressure on all of these real housewives in New Jersey to work things out by using this long pause, and I think that is a tool that they’ll continue to use. You know, like you guys can’t get along, you say you won’t film with each other, then fine, we just won’t have a show. I wonder if she’s willing to make amends with Marge. I feel like maybe she said to production, like, I’ll move on with my brother. But if you have Marge on, I’m still at odds with her. And whether Marge is willing, because, well, it says Louie’s not filming, which also, how is she going to do that? Where’s Louie going to be? I don’t know. I don’t know that that part, I I had the exact same thought. I was like, that doesn’t seem right, because, because, let’s suppose they do a thing like on Shaz, where MJ and Reza made amends, but Tommy still wasn’t able to move forward, and so he didn’t film with Reza. Reza is a friend at the end of the day. How can, let’s say that Theresa’s line is like, I’m ready to move forward and have a relationship with my brother and Melissa. But Louis is not it. That’s different. It’s different if your husband’s not, right? No, I mean, there’s no way that Theresa, I agree. She follows Louise. She follows her husband’s lead. So Louis had to have given the blessing. Oh, he gave the blessing. And I don’t think that he wouldn’t be able to fake it on camera to stay I think Bravo. Doesn’t want him filming. Maybe, maybe Teresa just says, but you can’t break the fourth wall and say, like, because, of course, in the press, the spin is going to be Louis doesn’t like, doesn’t want to film, which we know isn’t true. It’s going to be that, bravo, didn’t want him to film, but she’ll never admit that, which is fine, but I just don’t know how you translate that to the show, because you can’t be like, Oh, my husband doesn’t want to film, because you can’t just sit there and talk about how you’re filming. So I don’t know. I don’t know. Let’s see how this all. It is very complicated, which is why it’s taking so long. And I know we didn’t get to the Miami because we didn’t the Haitian mortician hadn’t happened as of last week, because that’s Thursdays. Yes, you’re okay, guys, the Haitian mortician, we are going to wait for the third part of the reunion, and next week we’re going to give a breakdown. But I just want to say the Glee on Julia’s face as she’s like, backstage telling Andy about a rendezvous, like, What a fucking bitch. You don’t you say you don’t have an open marriage. You say that your wife cried when you told her that you were going to discuss this at the reunion, and you’re gleefully talking about, Oh, it wasn’t an affair, but, oh no, you were just banging a Haitian mortician, which, by the way, I was sent the guy’s Instagram. I will not post it. He is younger, he is married to a beautiful woman and has two kids, and just Julia gives me the fucking ick, yeah, I agree, and yes, for her to go on and on so insensitively, right after admitting that her wife just cried about this, right? It just, there’s no, I can’t imagine, like, when you deeply hurt somebody like that, to then just go on and just talk about it, like in such a light hearted manner to somebody else, and then on camera, she can go, I don’t know, because, like, now listen, do I believe that Martina is out here letting people know that she’s getting divorced? No, Martina is a private person. Do I believe that somebody guessed that, and they’re probably right? Yeah. Are you gonna need babies, those and those poor kids? I know. I know, because it is, as you know, it is. It is a lot of work to raise kids and to i Oh, we should mention this, by the way, that the social worker, and we’ll go, we can go into this more next week, the social worker, who we saw on video on the show, who is, you know, working the case for the boys, has been going on social media and saying terrible things about pretty much everybody else. Yeah, I don’t know about you, but most social workers I know don’t insert themselves in reality television and insult people. It must have been this. Must have been like, yeah, maybe she’s a social but like, there must have been a higher situation, or that’s not the real person working for the state. Or, I don’t know, it’s odd to me, because I feel like the woman could lose her job unless she’s a contracted person paid for exclusively by Julia. We love you guys. Till next time. Thanks everybody.