155. RHOA: What is Drew hiding? Jax and Brittany’s fight; Exclusive The Valley tea

More on the Beverly Hills demotion plus Erika’s cases. Atlanta – what is Drew hiding? Is Porsha showing restraint? This episode of The Valley was…intense. Jax and Brittany’s fight – can Jax come out of this? Jesse and Michelle’s coparenting. We think they just like fighting with each other and are both being awful. And we have some exclusive Valley tea you won’t want to miss. Schwartz is having a bit of a moment right now. Will Kyle ever stop his partying ways? His recent behavior at Coachella is making us wonder.

What’s up? Cocktails, Amanda, we’ve had a week. Ah, hi cocktails, hi beat we have been getting I love it when the tea just flows in and people have just felt like yapping this week. Is it spring fever, or is this like Bravos having a surge of stuff? I will not make sense, right? Because there is, there’s new shows we’ve got, we have upfront coming, which we have said a million times in the pod, like things that could be announced. So yes, Wife Swap email we got. We’ll get to that later. Let’s start, yeah, oh, I don’t know where we do know where to start, because we make markers for ourselves and notes because we’re Yeah, let’s do let’s start with Beverly Hills. But you guys, we do have a ton about we’ve got the valid we’ve got a lot. Just stick with us. So first, let’s start with Beverly Hills. The subject is interesting, and it said, The email said this West Coast housewife who recently wished her former co star was a bit more interesting, found herself receiving a friend of contract for the new season. So they’re talking about Erica. Jane, I posted this publicly Bravo and cocktails, which I do for a variety of reasons, but one of the reasons is it’s good bait to have sources or insiders or people in the know to reach out and be like, that’s nonsense or well. So what we got was a source reached out and they said, and this is the source who told us, and we’ve discussed this, that they gave dorit an ultimatum, so she wasn’t offered a friend contract. We heard that dorit last season was actually like gonna be given her walking papers, but they told her, Listen, bring it. Talk about your divorce or your split. Now this is Dorit, or you’re out. And it worked. She’s had her best season she’s ever had. She’s created drama. This could be the same tactic that they’re using with Erica Jane regarding her lawsuit. So we reposted the cocktail pod that Amanda and I recorded back in March 2024 I believe, where we did a deep dive on her lawsuits. I reposted the LA Times article. This has all been out there, but there was enough.
Distance from when it was out there to when they filmed to when it came out, and the door Re and Kyle and Mauricio and PK distraction of it all allowed for Erica to somehow talk about wallpaper all season. So I think that it should have been filmed for this season. For whatever reason they gave her a break. Maybe they figured she had a few rough seasons. Maybe the fans weren’t demanding it, but the reality is that we get okay. Maybe you can talk about specifics. It is a legal matter, but she can certainly allude to it. She can discuss the stress she’s under. Can talk about some of it, and if she’s unwilling to, I feel like they’re saying then you can be a friend of she does have a fan base, especially a lot of my gays reached out, and they were like, We will revolt if Erica Jane is not on the show, so that, yeah, all these different pieces that I may not immediately come to my mind, she does stir the pot. She is a great addition. I wouldn’t want to see Erica go, but I do think that threatening her with a frank contract, if she doesn’t bring it, she needs the check, especially with looming lawsuits, so I think she’s gonna have to figure something out and give them something so that they don’t go that way. But I certainly think the threat is there. I don’t think that email is nonsense. Yeah, and the friends of make less money as well, correct? Yeah, it has to be an incentive to get her to talk about it, which is okay then make less money if you want to just continue evading the right true, yeah, and I think she needs it, because even that’s the crazy thing about just the legal system. We’ve said it here before, is anybody could sue anybody for anything, and so whether or not she is guilty or the people have a case, she’s still having to pay some pretty hefty lawyer fees to defend herself. So that’s where I was asking about the money, because I’m sure she probably needs it. I did a quick check on both of her cases because I was curious. So you’ll remember the Marco case, which is what you were just talking about. She’s got there were two designers. One of them is suing her in California, and Marco is the other one who filed his suit in Florida. Marco’s case is for $300,000
Erica’s lawyer did not file his motion to dismiss a case correctly, which means that as of now, the case is going through. Oh, my God, that’s yeah, what kind of like cracker jack box attorney is she hired? I think that’s the problem when you use like a friend, right? Versus somebody you’ve hired, and she was quote, unquote, romantically linked, allegedly to the lawyer whose name is, like James, or something. I’m forgetting his name. And then the other case, I guess, that designer is suing in California, and He’s suing for more than $18 million and if you guys will remember, from that deep dive we did, the designers were charged with wire fraud and aggravated identity theft as a result of Erica calling AmEx and saying they charged $900,000
to her AmEx, because, remember, like Secret Service was involved, like all of that, and this is squarely on her, because this has nothing to do with Tom. This these are her fashions. This is Tom. Is the one who had the Secret Service connections. But in other words, this isn’t no This has nothing to do, right? Like she she’s aware she can’t play the Oh, my God, I’m not a lawyer. How did I know these are her fashions? Now, could it be that these people told her they would do it for half the cost, and then up charged her. Of course, that’s why there’s court of laws. That’s why she’s innocent until proven guilty, but there’s a lot of smoke here. And yeah. So then there’s another case, and this is from the bankruptcy trustee of Tom Girardi bankruptcy. Because Bankruptcy trustees, it’s their job to figure out where the assets are and then decide how to pay out for all the people that have claims against or money owed against that person. This person, Alyssa Miller, who is the trustee, is seeking $24 million from Erica, claiming that she knowingly benefited from her estranged husband’s illegal actions. That case is expected to go to trial sometime after June. So a lot on her plate, 24, plus 18 is a lot of million plus 300,000
Yeah. And here’s my thing, Amanda, and here’s why I believe my source. That’s a big storyline. That’s a big storyline production. Bravo. They’re not gonna turn away from that. And it’s involving designers, and it’s a whole thing. They’re not gonna turn away from that, unless the talent is saying, Yeah, but I can’t talk about that, and they also can’t ignore it. They did it for a season for her, and they gave her grace because she had all those rough seasons. But it’s sorry i Yeah, I’m actually quite surprised that not only Bravo, but like the other ladies, didn’t go in a little bit harder after Erica with all of this, because it’s I also though i.
Questioning what this bankruptcy trustee is doing, because I think we all know Erica doesn’t have $24 million so the money has gone somewhere. And so then if Erica ends up having to file bankruptcy because she and loses his case, or whatever, you know, who? Who knows? And I do think there does seem to be a line Bravo seems to draw when it comes to some of these more civil cases, they don’t tend to talk about them as much as they do more of a criminal or like a divorce proceeding. That’s right, own, I mean, my own theory. So here’s the thing, maybe they’re like, Okay, we completely understand that you can talk about it, but as a result, you don’t have an interesting enough storyline. Yeah, you’ve rebooted your career, you’ve wallpapered your house, you’ve sat in the fancy Interior Design Studio, unless you’re going to have a new boyfriend that we get to know or join Bose on her fertility journey in the late 40s, early 50s. Then do you want it? Do you want to have a baby? Yeah, she needs, I do. I think that it could be just more of that, like we you had your redemption arc last season, where you’re down so much better, and now, unless you can talk about this other court stuff, we just don’t see it, so I guess we’ll see but I think it’ll be an interesting summer for her, regardless whether or not we end up getting to see it. Let’s talk about Atlanta. I’m very curious to get your thoughts. Did you find it gross, shocking or funny when Drew just blatantly asked Brit if she’s ever, quote, unquote, sold it, sold the kitty. I mean, I think both. But I’m more than anything, I’m so glad it’s behind us. I really could not continue to talk about, I hope it’s behind us. But speaking of Drew, a lot of Drew’s drama is her own doing. She’s lying and then saying she’s joking about being Michael Jordan’s cousin. Oh, my God, seriously, I’m with Angeli. Like, are we in high school that even? Yeah, elementary to the news that she somehow recognized and received a DM from the owner of the penis of the in the explicit photo of Brit I screamed when Brett asked if Drew sucks his dick. It’s impossible not to feel for her, though, regarding Ralph, because that guy, whatever Drew is he like multiplies it, but by 10 times. He really sees himself as a hero, a victim. He doesn’t care that the courts unsealed with divorce documents that would make his cheating, his lying, his financial abuse public. Him celebrating after the courts say he’s allowed to stay in the marital home. The whole thing is so cringe that I like facilitate, between facilitate, whatever that word is, vacillate, yeah, her irking me, and then being like, oh, but God, she’s got to deal with him. I’m there with you. I actually feel both. But I watching this. I’m like, I think drew it. And this is going to be a really strong statement for me, guys, you guys know, I’m not a really big fan of Drew’s. I think she’s lying. I think that if Ralph is the one who is pushing for the documents to be unsealed, but Drew is pushing for them to be sealed, and she’s also talking about all the shit that Ralph has done on national television, she’s clearly got something to hide. And you guys know, B and I, we always err towards believing women. I just, I don’t think Drew’s that credible of a person. I think we’re caught her lying about a lot of things. And that doesn’t mean I’m on Ralph’s side either. Let’s make that real clear, because I agree with you. He seems like a real mess, too. And like, I also watch him, and I’m like, Why are you so proud of the fact that you haven’t moved into your own home and started that’s be more of a man, I don’t know, step up. Like, start building your separate life for your kid. Here’s my question, do we think that Drew has exaggerated the proof she has on Ralph, or do we think that he has very similar proof on her? So he’s unseal it because I’m a liar, I’m a cheater, I’m a this. But so are you? I think it’s both. I think she’s over exact or she’s exaggerated some of the stuff that she has talked about. I think that. And then I think that there was probably some cheating going on too, because you guys remember right now, I’ll talk about this in a second, but I did look to try to go back to the divorce filings, and I was able to find articles, but I can’t find any of the documents anymore, which is really strange. But also, I’m not a lawyer. Maybe she hired a Brit person to scrub the internet, maybe. But when they file, they didn’t file with fault, but they said Drew specifically, said like that, she reserves the right to change that position later. But Georgia is a fault state, so I just wonder if there’s something like that. And I do think it’s very odd that.
That Ralph didn’t turn in financial documents because there’s no physical reason that he couldn’t, and generally you can be held in contempt of court. So there’s something else going on there too, because that wouldn’t make sense to me. Then they would then say you can stay in the house like something there’s just more than meets the eye. I think, I think they’re probably both lying. Yeah, that, yeah. I think they’re both like, I think, honestly, I think they’re both gross. And I just hope the kids are doing okay, because it’s But assuming, let’s just think the best of Drew, assuming that everything she’s telling us is truthful. Yeah, you would think she would be the girls trip, yes, but she’s not invited. Portia is still pissed at Drew, so Porsche is doing this birthday trip in Nashville. Literally invited the rest of the cast, minus Drew, plus some other people, like her sister, Cynthia, obviously, Manyata, but Angela, who has aligned herself with Drew, for as far as I can tell, no other reason than they both have Chicago ties. Has decided, I have to say, as a New Yorker, though I feel like Chicago people are similar. Like, I get that, yeah, there are things about somebody being from the same place as you that can feel familiar, especially because we’ve noted that Angela is the one without any true connection. So I get that, and drew before you learn she’s a liar. She presents as a really sweet girl who’s going through a hard time, absolutely, she said to a REIT of Atlanta, and Angela’s the boss. She’s worse. I’ll let you run with your opinion on that one. I just, I drew, is so cringe. I just, I know, I just, I really do try to present her and Chelsea, she’s so cute. Like, her face is she has like, like, they’re all gorgeous, but Drew’s face specifically has like that, like, youthful, angelic look, which makes it even like more. I don’t know what the word is, annoying, that she’s such a lying brat. Yeah. Does that make sense? Because she looks like she’s so sweet. Yeah, yeah. And I definitely yes. I agree. I do. I do think she does have an angelic face. I will agree with you on that
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So Angela not only decides to invite drew but also knows like full on. She’s taken on Portia by doing this and a production sweetheart is born. Angela takes one for the team. She’s willing to take the heat from Portia to ensure for production that the entire cast is on the trip which Come on, guys, it’s always the ultimate goal. Here is a prime example of why Amanda and I can’t stand Drew. She can never get through an episode without us citing a specific example prior to to heading off to Nashville, where one would think she would want to be trying to do the best by Porsche, because, let’s keep in mind, Portia hired her for her hair company. Portia has done right by Drew. Drew has decided to film with Dennis.
And may or may not be sucking his hot dog. So she decides I’m gonna head to Nashville. Before that. I’m gonna take my sister, Allison. I’m gonna stop at Drew’s club, Dennis’s club. Oh, sorry, Dennis’s club, to celebrate her recent record deal. This is the most thirsty part of it. Dennis isn’t even there. I would take that anybody else there, except for her and her sister didn’t look like it and the people bringing the drinks, I took that to mean that Dennis is following Porsche’s directive. Let me not film with Drew. Let me not piss off the mother of my child so we see drew call him on FaceTime like why is Drew going out of her way to get in this club to promote all things Dennis. She just is. She is what the kids these days call a pick me girl. Amanda yo drew calling him on FaceTime and showing it on camera. Is still fucking filming with him. And he could very easily come there if he wanted to. What is he doing, selling hot dogs. Oh, I think he’s trying to stay out of it, yeah, maybe, and try. Who knows? But yet another example of drew just not learning or she doesn’t give a crap about Portia, which it could be evident, yeah, but Angela defends her decision to invite Drew. Portia flips on Angela and says, I had her rewind it a couple times to understand exactly sure, like, what she said she was, like, what kind of glue is on your motherfucking wigs? As if the glue, like, cause maybe, like, she inhaled the glue or something, maybe her brain works. Yeah, I will say, and this is not we’ve seen Portia freak out way more over way less in the past, I feel like Porsche is kind of letting Angela off easy. Yeah. And so then we see Porsche explain to everyone there that Drew’s absent because she did some things that were undercover. Her sister Lauren fills in the blanks, adding that drew allegedly talking to Dennis about more than making music contributed to the Rift. And one of Porsche’s friends, flat out, says she sucked some dick. Porsche doesn’t confirm or deny this. When a producer asks about the validity of the claim in her confessional, instead, she inserts that fellatio is Dennis’s thing, and it helps him keep his body count balanced. I have to believe at this point that Portia has solid reason to believe that they’re hooking up. I think so too. I definitely think there’s a lot more going on with than what Drew is admitting I just can’t figure out why Dennis and his hot dog. Listen, Drew’s a beautiful woman, woman, and she’s fawning over him and giving him attention. And Portia is not his wife. They broke up. She’s had a marriage. She’s going through a divorce. I could see why he would. No, I’m saying, Why is she going for Dennis? I don’t get it. I don’t find him attractive, beneficial to her, and she’s a user. She’s probably paying him in fellatio, oh, for time in the studio and everything. Now, whether he’s a music producer or not, he’s a man of means. So studio time is expensive, hiring producers is expensive, getting beats is expensive. So he’s doing all of that for her on the arm or on the dick. Ah, that’s the reason, yeah, I this whole endeavor would cost her on the low end, $50,000 I’m sure it’s much more than that. I’m just saying. So if she’s in a relationship with him, and he’s willing to foot the bill, then sure I’ll screw over Porsche. It’s more money than I’m seeing not taking my money, but more. It’s more lucrative for me than the hair modeling. Sure I’ll go to his club and put his business on the put his market, his business on the show. Because guess what? That’s $15,000 in studio time that I don’t have to spend. Yeah, she’s she is a maneuver. She is a get ahead. She is a what can you Which begs the question, why did she marry Ralph? But I digress, yeah, I think everybody wants to know the answer to that one. I’ve been dying to talk to you about the valley. I really think it is. It’s my favorite Bravo show right now. I just, I am loving it, and this happens, well, I’m loving it, but then I do, like summer house, which is, like, much less toxic to offset it. It’s nice, yeah, it works, yeah, it’s usually triggering. I was, yeah, I do agree with you. I saw our girl shout out to at your Bish therapist. She had a lot of great points. And like one of them, I believe it was her who said it is there should have been a trigger warning, like there is for suicide or in eating disorder, like abusive domestic violence situations. That’s brings up a lot of stuff. Yeah, it definitely does. And I think for me, watching that, the beginning of that, what ended up being a knock down, drag out fight between Britney and Jax. It sadly, it started in front of their son, yeah, and that that made me really, really sad, and then watching him picking up Cruz.
Was him kissing on him and loving on him, and seeing Cruz was pushing away. Like, yes, body language was he was not. He was trying to get away. I just I, he’s scared of him. Yeah, I think it’s again. We always say we’re on the side of the woman, but we’re always on the side of the child. And his body language said so much I so the beginning of the fight, Jax tells Britney that she has destroyed his life. She says, he says that she’s never paid one bill for the house. And Brittany says, I pay all the bills. Still have, even though I haven’t been living here, property tax put down the same amount of money for this house. And then, like, you guys know, this really irks me when anybody says this about anybody, but for him to say this to her, I wanted to throw something at the TV. He says to her, if you were that miserable, you could have left years ago. F that. And follows it up with and when I’m gone, I have people watching you, that’s a threat, Britney says on camera. And so we now know that Jax is whole people, or US Weekly or whatever. Cover about him having a coke addiction was because he was gonna be outed by the second or third episode anyway, because Britney says, You better be honest with the doctors. It is not just your mental health. You are a coke addict. He throws it at her, Oh, like you’ve never done it. And she said, I’m not saying I’ve never done it, but you’re the addict, and I would pass a drug test, would you all the ways he blamed her. You ruined my life. I should have left you. I have people watching. And she says, If you don’t go, you’ll lose your job. That meant he went, not because of his son, not because of any other reason then Bravo. Production said to him, if you don’t get in a program and show that you’re working on yourself, you can no longer film and you’re fired because of the domestic violence. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons Vons and pavilions. Now through August 26 it’s back to deals time, where you can enjoy store wide deals and earn four times points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Triscuit, Starbucks, Frito, lay Ziploc Charmin, Charmin, ultra soft and tide liquid, original, then clip the offer in the app for automatic event, long savings. Shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery subject to availability restriction supply. Visit albertsons bonds or pavilions.com. For more details when you need a break, skip the scrolling. Visit myprise.us. The games are super exciting, and you can actually win my prize.us. Is the most fun. Free to Play social casino around everyone deserves to win big all the slots and table games you love with incredible bonuses, Sign up today for an incredible welcome package. My price.us, is a free to play social Casino. Users must be 18 year old to play Void where prohibited by law. Visit myprise.us. For more details. When you need a break, make it memorable, visit myprise.us. Real prizes, real winners, real easy. Want your hottest hair this summer. My name is Ali Webb and I’m the founder of dry bar and now Messi. I spent years chasing polished perfection. I built a whole business around it, but honestly, it was exhausting for my hair and my life. My new line of hair care products, messy is a total vibe shift. Our products help you embrace your hair’s true texture for healthy styling with minimal heat. You can find messy at Sephora or use code messy 15 for 15% off your first purchase from it’s messy.com that’s I, T, S, M, E, S, S, y.com,
I don’t know. I We see that camera in their living room. I’m surprised. I don’t know. Like, I wouldn’t be surprised if something was caught on film. Like, I get the feeling that Jack’s like, we’re just if they’re showing us one, or if they’re telling us that he threw things and everything else, God knows what really went down. Yeah, and that’s what you’re saying, yeah, he’s got to be essentially backed into a corner before he’ll actually do something that he doesn’t want to do. And He clearly doesn’t want to miss out on being on screen and be on filming. That’s what he’s so mad about, that he’s not mad because his life is falling apart. And no, I mean, he like their child is autistic and thrives, Britney says, thrives on having like home and routine, and Jax wouldn’t get out of the house like that. To me, says more than we need to know about that whole situation. I do want to talk about the Michelle and Jesse scene, because we have some tea. We’ll get to here in a minute. But I found this really interesting that we’re seeing some of the co parenting stuff. So Michelle comes to Jesse’s house when their daughter Isabel, is not there to talk about the divorce and the co parenting. She says, Jesse really didn’t want Jesse really pushed that we just have a mediator, which we’ll talk about again in a second. So Jesse starts out by saying, I redid the co parenting schedule because you were complaining, meaning Michelle, about it, because I went on some trips, and Michelle’s, I know you went on four trips and they were doing.
Being like two days on two days off. So as somebody who co parents like having access to your schedule ahead of time and having things not changing at the last minute, it’s for you as a person, that’s when I plan if I’m gonna go see friends or if I go somewhere with my husband, or if I any of those things that you tend to plan months out, so you don’t just change the schedule. That is. It’s a big it’s a that’s a big thing. And so for him to minimize it is completely gaslighting to me. And the worst thing in that whole conversation is he tells her, then you’ll just drop her off with the nanny. And she’s who is the nanny. And he’s like, doesn’t matter. I was confused by that, because then he was like, You took my nanny,
you found the nanny, but then you don’t just tell me, as a mother, or any mother, just drop your kid off with a nanny, and who the nanny is doesn’t matter. I think the moral of the story is, if I’m understanding that conversation correctly, Michelle was essentially saying, if you’re going to be on a trip, then just let me have those days. I think what she was saying, too, though, is like, you can’t be on a trip. Assume, yeah, that I can just take her, especially last minute, because then it might, because, especially if they’re doing this two days on two days off, thing that messes up the rest of the schedule. Where, if she was trying to plan stuff, like, I understand how that, like, how big of a deal that is, and it’s, of course, there’s, like, flexibility, and people’s fights get canceled, and there’s always stuff like that happened, but him just not respecting the schedule that he’s the one who asked for, and he’s also the one to me, which, by the way, I just want to say before it sounds like I’m way too much team Michelle here, because I am not. But the co parenting schedule isn’t something that you just decide and that you just change all the time, like it’s like, it that’s a real. That is a real. But can I ask a question. I agree with everything you said. I think in this situation regarding their divorce, I’m not team either of them. I really think that they’re trying to leverage their daughter against each other. I see them both doing it. I think it’s dirty work. I think it’s unnecessary. With that said, when he said the thing about the holidays, and she says, My year, and he’s like, I’m not going to have her in November or December. That seems like an unfair arrangement, I would think. And the arrangements that I’m familiar with are like, okay, in 2025
you’ll get Thanksgiving, and then I’ll get Christmas, or, even better, like, you’ll get Thanksgiving, and typically people have that Friday off, right? And then you get the day after, and then I’m going to have Christmas Eve this year, and you’ll have Christmas Day, and next year I’ll have Thanksgiving. You’ll have the day after, you’ll have Christmas Eve like I don’t think it sounds right that one parent gets all the holidays of 2025, and one parent gets them the next year. That seems I would agree, unless the last year, that’s the way it was, and Michelle didn’t get her and maybe that was a matter of him being difficult, etc, etc, right? And so we don’t know what, but at some point, but yes, that’s the problem. And this is why I don’t think they’re going to make headway, because, and you know this, as somebody who’s been through it, at some point, somebody has to be the one to give in. And I don’t see either of them being that person, no. And that’s like, somebody has to eat shit and say, Okay, last year you had it, but going forward will do you get Thanksgiving? I get Christmas. Like somebody has to. It’s why they both need representation. It’s why mediation will never work. And it’s a very stupid thing. You can both have a lawyer and still work with mediation. That is absolutely a thing. It’s just like you need to have. I feel like it was manipulative with Jesse to say, let’s not get lawyers. We’ll just do this ourselves and use a mediator. Because if they fight this way over every little thing like the thing that is really helpful with the divorce lawyer is they’ve been there, done that. They’ve seen how other couples have been able to figure this out. So there’s all different ways that you can switch up holiday schedules and Christmas and all of those things that you know. And as my lawyer had pointed out to me too, just remember, anything you’re like, it’s it’s going to be opposite for you for the next year, right? Because you generally alternate on that kind of stuff. But honestly, Michelle knows exactly who she’s dealing with. So why did she say yes to the mediator? I would be like, No, I’m getting an attorney. I think some people are scared, because it is scary to hire a divorce lawyer because you don’t know how long it’s going to take, and it’s you pay them a lot of money. I think she’s just probably also young enough that she doesn’t have a lot of friends who have been through this right advise her to be like, no. You need, even if you guys are going to mediate this, which is what a lot of couples do, you still need representation. You still need somebody who is just representing you, who can talk to their lawyer and.
Some of the like detail stuff like they can figure out that you don’t need to be involved in that makes sense. But I do think it’s interesting that they start talking about Jesse’s girlfriend, so she is not on the show. Michelle tells him that the girlfriend went up to her, but also went up to their friends and said that she was sleeping with other people. Jesse is okay, let’s call her, or let’s call whichever friend they call Sheena. And Jesse very calmly, because you can tell like he does not think Sheena is going to confirm it, but Sheena does confirm that, not only that, the girlfriend, Jesse’s girlfriend, said this, but that she said who she was sleeping with, except that our Valley source, who, by the way, as you guys know, everything they’ve shared, we’ve seen, yeah, told me that, and I’m not sure why, and again, Editing, we don’t know, but what she said was, in this situation where Sheen is saying, yeah, she told me she was sleeping with the Baywatch guy, they said Sheena is being Sheena for airtime, that Jesse’s girlfriend was telling her they were having a conversation at some point, I guess I don’t really know why, but she was telling her everyone she’s dated in La, so this girl, side note, lives in Orange County. She actually was interviewed to be on Orange County a couple of years ago, and then she started going through a divorce, because she’s recently divorced with a little one as well, even younger than Jesse and Michelle’s daughter. So she obviously didn’t go on the show. So she was telling Sheena everyone she’s dated in LA, she named five people and even said, Oh yeah, they were all trash. Jesse was actually there with them. So next episode, according to my source, they’re gonna talk about it again and bring it up at the pool party. So maybe they say this. That’s a bullshit story. I was there. She was you were asking her if she dated the Baywatch guy or whatever guy, and she said she did. It’s not current, so let’s watch and see how it plays out. But that’s and maybe in that moment, Jesse didn’t know that conversation had happened. And so then when he spoke to the girlfriend, was like, remember when I was talking to Sheena at that pool party at Janet’s house, and she asked me if I dated, and I told her, yeah, and he’s trash. And she somehow flipped that into me sleeping with him currently, which, yeah, Sheena, I and I could see that happening, because I do have to agree with Jesse when he says, It seems like Michelle is actively trying to hurt Jesse with that news. Because, again, two things, one, if it were me, I would definitely not would. I would have kept that information to myself. I wouldn’t have said anything to my ex husband, I would have been like, let him figure that out on his own. But again, that’s it. Make him angry at you while you’re trying to work out your parenting schedule. Doesn’t matter. When I say, both of you, right, it doesn’t matter, but um, unless it starts to affect your children. And then there’s, it doesn’t matter, except that it gives Jesse further reason to be pissy with her and vindictive and not cooperative with the co parenting schedule. So let’s skip that. If this girl is banging Zac Efron from Baywatch or whoever I’m joking, I don’t know that it’s Zac Efron, whoever it is, then let him find that out and let them break up. But let me not be involved so that I can keep my if you’re so happy with your new boyfriend, yeah, care. It does seem listen, and I get Jesse being jealous of her new boyfriend, because Jesse says I didn’t want the divorce. She said I was a bad husband. She cheated, she left me. She didn’t want to be married to me. Yeah, Michelle has a lot of jealousy for somebody who didn’t want to be with him. It’s maybe she’s mad he moved on. Yeah, I think those two really love to fight, yeah. And so there’s constantly really wild makeup sex, probably, but I also I would, and I think I pointed this out before, the fact that Jesse’s girlfriend does not want to be on the show, and we’ll talk more about that in a minute. That, to me, gives her a little more credibility. In my mind, 100% Yeah, then Aaron, who’s at every envelope they’re opening in the valley, exactly. So here is some of that tea that has only been on cocktail party. So you guys are getting another exclusive. This is it says this Jesse’s girlfriend is pissed. She’s threatening to sue Michelle. Allegedly, Michelle and Janet were reaching out to all these people in the OT trying to get dirt on her. Michelle was texting Jesse’s girlfriend that she’s going to ruin her life and hurt the girlfriend’s custody with her child as long as she dates Jesse. She sent her lawyer. But then at the finale party, which we think they might have meant, no, I checked it was the finale party. Oh, it was at the finale. I’ll have additional to add to this. After Okay, finale party, Michelle and her boyfriend were allegedly drunk and pushed Jesse’s girlfriend. Apparently, production opened up an investigation on it. So it was the finale party, and it was Michelle who pushed the girlfriend. So it wasn’t a man pushing a woman, not that any.
Anybody should push anybody, but they were very drunk. And apparently Jesse, according to the source, Jesse’s girlfriend, said to production, drop the investigation. I don’t wanna make anything worse. She was clearly drunk. I’m not scared of her. I don’t think she’s gonna try to hurt me, that kind of thing. But now, with Michelle still doing stuff to the girlfriend, whose name is Lacy. Apparently, Lacy is, you know what? Open that investigation up? Because she’s Michelle is doing vengeful things behind the scenes, according to the source. This is what the source is saying. Now, it could be that the source isn’t team Michelle, so it could be they’re leaning more towards the other side. I guess we’re gonna hear if there was a pushing into this stuff, as everything else that they’ve shared has come out like such as Jesse Coley, Michelle hooker, we saw that in the trailer. Like all these things they told us, that is in cocktail party, guys, cocktail party, my treat, five bucks a month. The valley tea is freaking insane, not even to mention the mom talk and the Vanderpump Villa and I know hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. Now through August 26 it’s back to deals time, where you can enjoy store wide deals and earn four times points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Triscuit, Starbucks, Frito, lay Ziploc Charmin, Charmin, ultra soft and tied, liquid, original, then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Shop in store or online for easy, drive up and go pick up or delivery subject to availability restriction supply. Visit albertsons bonds or pavilions.com. For more details, when you need a break, skip the scrolling, visit my prize.us. The games are super exciting, and you can actually win my prize.us. Is the most fun. Free to Play social casino around everyone deserves to win big all the slots and table games you love with incredible bonuses. Sign up today for an incredible welcome package. My price.us. Is a free play social casino users must be 18 roll to play Void where prohibited by law. Visit my prize.us. For more details when you need a break, make it memorable. Visit myprise.us. Real prizes, real winners, real easy. At UCI health, we share a single calling to improve the lives of people in our community and beyond. As Orange County’s only academic health system and one of the largest in California, we are fiercely dedicated to the discovery of new medical frontiers, to the teaching of future healers and to the delivery of the best evidence based care for you and your family, from primary and specialty care to groundbreaking clinical trials. UCI health is committed to providing compassionate, expert care for everyone in the region. Learn more at UCI health.org powered by UC Irvine.
Oh, by the way, total side note, over a year ago, before we ever met Bronwyn on Salt Lake City, every single cocktail or knew about her first husband, that stuff a year and a half later is suddenly on the internet. Yeah, cocktails knew first best five bucks you ever spent. Anyway, anyway. I think the other thing, and I just shake my head at this, but again, this is why these people are good on reality TV. Like be. How dumb. Sorry, but if you have a possible custody situation, why would you be drunk around your ex husband? You know, what is? They’re so dumb. There’s most reality stars have this sense of entitlement that allows them to do these things, yeah, but I will work with their stage. Yes. And if Michelle was drunk, it could be that she, like was yelling at her and stumbled into her, or maybe the girl was pointing her face like I don’t I do not see Michelle as somebody who’s violent. I certainly wouldn’t. I could see her do it, gossiping and trying to spread behind her back and making threats and stuff. I don’t mean threats. If you stay with him, I’ll make your life difficult. But I don’t think she’s trying to beat anybody up. Hold on. It’s so odd to me that Michelle would be reaching out, stay out of You’re right. You’re totally right. Like she is jealous, like, because she can’t believe that he moved on. She expected him to, I don’t know if she expected him, but the fact that he isn’t is causing her to have this reaction, and she can’t help it because she is happy with this new boyfriend, but, and I have feelings on all of this. I we have all season, but so as it’s been discussed, Jesse’s girlfriend has refused to film production is trying very hard to get her to come to the reunion, because she is such a big part of the story, as we posted previously, and we just spoke about, there is an investigation that she basically was like, Don’t bother. And now apparently is bother. So I guess we’ll see they are filming again. You heard it here first. This is not posted anywhere, but Bravo. And cocktails, they’re filming the valley reunion in two weeks, because of Kristen and Nia is pregnancies. Makes total sense. Yeah. Also, some tea that I posted today that’s interesting. Michelle’s boyfriend demanded a check. The new cast gets a salary. Okay, he gets half of what they get. The OGS get double what like when I say new I mean, Janet, Michelle, Jason OGS get double they get what they get. Aaron is getting half and.
And Lala and Sheena were not offered contracts. They get appearance fees. The next question is, does Sheena’s phone call count? I’m sure she doesn’t do anything for free, nor should she. Yeah, like you said, I this fighting. It’s gonna go on forever if they don’t get some representation. Kristen and Nia were on watch. What Happens Live This Week, both just looking radiant and like both, I think that’s a coordinating They’re both wearing silver yellow. They both had a lot to say, or no, no nice things to say, I guess about Janet, which I just want to say. Take a minute to say. I think as fans, we’re all fans of Vanderpump, and we all know Kristen for so many years, and I love seeing her, not only pregnant, but also evolved and grown up and in her way and happy, and she could have went so much lower than she went at Watch What Happens Live. And it’s such growth that I really do, like he kept joking, you’re an empath, but I really do feel like she’s matured a lot. She’s grown a lot. She’s in a healthy relationship. I know last season, you and I were joking on the pod that he’s icky or whatever, but obviously he’s a good fit for her. She’s happy, she feels settled, and she should call out Janet and anyone else’s bad behavior, but certainly she is a improved Christian Kristen, downy, absolutely, and Nia definitely, at least, has come off on camera as the girl who never has a bad thing to say about anybody, and called out Janet on a lot of the kind of shady games and didn’t have A nice thing to say about Janet, which actually all makes sense, because we got some info from a source that said so there’s a nasty rumor circulating about Danny touching Jasmine’s fiance inappropriately, and Janet was trying to make it a storyline. Nia found out that it was Janet who was pushing the stuff about Danny when cameras were up all summer. Nia hates Janet. She won’t even speak to her or look at her in a row. I mean, Amanda texted me about this because we haven’t got any emails about Danny being handsy or like what I always say about the summer house cast and the Vanderpump Rules cast and the southern charm cast and the valley cast. What makes it so good is these people are out and about, right? Danny is at daycare pickup. Danny is at Gymboree, or whatever the people are doing these days. If Danny was one of these guys who was handsy and flirty and we would have gotten emails the same way we do about a lot of other people, and we’ve never gotten anything like that. I haven’t received that from sources or DMS. Yeah, if something like that were happening a lot like we would have heard about it for so I think it’s complete bullshit. Yeah, and I had so I did a Q and A the other day when I was traveling, and somebody said to me, do you think, and I hope I’m right about this, do you think that something about Danny and Nia seems off? And my response, because I took a minute to think about I don’t think so. And I was like, and I said, I know what it is. Danny was an actor, or is an actor, Nia was a pageant. I think they both had hopes of making it in Hollywood as an actor, maybe in Nia, his case, as a presenter on E award shows, like that sort of thing, and then they found themselves married with children. This presented itself. It’s great opportunity if you’re in the business, right, and it’s a way to feed their family. But I don’t think there are some people like Janet, like Michelle who want to be on reality TV and want to get into mud and want to do all of this, like Jesse, like, Jack’s right? And I feel like Nina and Danny, this is like a Plan B or C, and so that’s if something feels off, it’s because they’re not 100% comfortable sharing in the way that other people are. Yeah, yeah. And I think also, though guys, like, they are in the freaking thick of it, like, I know they make a million jokes out of it, like the license plate that says three under three, and now they’re gonna have four under five, or whatever it is when their next child is born. But like, you’re not, you’re not getting a full night of sleep. No, you’re not playing like you’re not getting a full meal, you’re not getting a hot meal, you’re not getting a hot cup of coffee. You’re not getting Yeah, you’re not getting sex, yeah. And so, like, she must have good fertility, because she must have got pregnant in one pot, because there’s just not a lot of time for sex when you have those little and there’s three of them, I know. I’m sure next season, we’ll see him get a vasectomy. She said that on watch, what happens live, actually. Oh, she did. Oh, I missed that. We could go on and on about the valley. But just a quick post. I wanted one more pose I wanted to share before we move on. It says Jax may be jaxed. His bar may be on the rocks. Not a good look to be decked out in his business outfit while high on cocaine and screaming at his family. Also, he’s publicly disgusting away from the bar to focus on some.
Variety. What was a fun draw for VPR fans may now be too dark to enjoy for a while. They still have a space. It’s very possible that a rebrand is coming with a different face to draw people in. Even when it first opened, it was struggling, and ours weren’t consistent. Obviously, this makes sense. This isn’t a shocking email. My question is, how do they bring Jacks back on the show. This is dark. We said it earlier. Probably should have been a trigger warning. Yeah. So he went to the 30 day treatment, rock bottom for him, which, by the way, never called it rehab. So it was some other it was not rehab, the first one, I have to say. And again, the cameras weren’t there. But I do get the sense that when he wasn’t filming, he was better. I don’t think he was partying as much. He’s always going to be a narcissist. I understand this is his income. I just don’t know how they continue showing and supporting him when in real time, although he has said he’s sober, he went to another treatment program. He was just on television, or maybe not television. Maybe it was like Instagram when an interview at the, I assume, the premiere, whatever it was, he was high as a kite, looked to be Oh, and there was a time that he, yeah, it was an Instagram thing where Lori K was like, Get off. Hello. I just think that it comes to a point that they have to pull them and I think they, I don’t think they’d mind if I think he’s probably a nightmare with production. He’s expensive, and they have this huge cast. So yeah, I don’t think we need him. I will definitely watch without him. I do think this is another situation where Bravo and the production company have got to take a real look at what’s going on. And I’ll just leave it at that. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. Now through August 26 it’s back to deals time, where you can enjoy store wide deals and earn four times points look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Triscuit, Starbucks, Frito, lay Ziploc Charmin, Charmin, ultra soft and tide liquid, original, then clip the offer in the app for automatic event, long savings. Shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery subject to availability restriction supply. Visit albertsons bonds or pavilions.com. For more details when you need a break, skip the scrolling, visit my prize.us. The games are super exciting, and you can actually win my prize.us. Is the most fun free to play social casino around everyone deserves to win big all the slots and table games you love with incredible bonuses. Sign up today for an incredible welcome package. My price.us is a free play social casino users must be 18 year old to play Void where prohibited by law. Visit my price.us for more details when you need a break, make it memorable. Visit my price.us real prizes, real winners, real easy looking for a mortgage, credit card or auto loan, then you should know your FICO score. Did you know 90% of top lenders use FICO scores? Visit my fico.com/free
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see. We have a little time. So let’s talk summer house. So we see Schwartz come on this week, which is interesting, because I’m watching with my husband, and he is late, right? Like, why is he on this show? And I’m like, all the crossover stuff, it doesn’t always make sense, but they do. He they are legitimately friends, yeah, and the timing is great, because Tom Schwartz also just launched his podcast, which hit you, just you, by the way, you just popped off and popped right back on recording, yeah, just for I heard like, chew and then chew. Oh, huh, strange. Okay, I think everything looks okay on my side. Me too. So, yeah, so Schwartz’s podcast that just launched number 51 which is huge. That’s huge. That’s huge. Yeah, he had Katie on. And we also, this week, have seen that Schwartz, Shep Fraser from below deck, and TJ, and randomly, Tyson Beckford was with them, and Alicia, which he is very handsome. Oh, they’re all filming or shooting something for we’re hearing it’s for people’s most eligible bachelor. So Schwartz is definitely having his little moment right now. You know, I listened to his pod with Katie, and it was good. Something about him is endearing, even though, during scandal, I think we were all very angry at him. We were turned off his divorce, the fake dating with Raquel. Raquel Rachel, but he listening to the pod, he seemed, he seems genuinely happy for Katie. You can tell he still loves her, but he wants her to be happy, and he knew that he really wasn’t capable of giving her what she deserved. So that kind of brings me around to liking him again. He hasn’t.
Been in our face. He hasn’t been obnoxious. And you look at Jax, and he seems like an Eagle Scout, yes, and everyone in the Bravo world loves him, right? He walks into summer house, everyone hugs him. He’s really just like this sweet guy, dopey at times. But so the conversation with Kyle in the kitchen, so Kyle’s talking about and this was like a storyline, right? Obviously, I think it’s something Kyle’s really pursuing. What’s perfect talk to Schwartz. Schwartz did it when he was with Katie the sperm testing your fertility. So Kyle goes to Schwartz, so were you guys trying? And he’s no, this was about a year before we split. And so Kyle gets like this worried look, and he says, Do you think that was an indication like that your relationship was on the rocks or and Schwartz kind of reflects, and he’s Yeah. I mean, we were together 13 years, and we talked about it, but we never, we tested everything, but we never really got around to trying, yeah. And then Kyle quickly snaps it to it, and he’s for us. It’s not a matter of if it’s just when. And I’m like, is this foreshadowing? I don’t mean that it’s intentionally done, but no, you know that flashback with Katie and Schwartz energy there felt like Kyle and Amanda, and this is on the heels of, I mean, it’s spread all over. I got an email, but it’s all over that Kyle was at Coachella, apparently his sponsor, whomever that was pissed. He was incoherent. He in the lobby of a hotel. They tossed him in the PR girl’s room because they were like, trying to manage the damage of what was going on. How long is Amanda gonna tolerate this party? Boy like I get, she’s not ready for a baby. That’s one thing, but she’s not staying out every night till 5am and as a matter of fact, in the clip at the end of last night’s show, he looks concerned and is talking about wanting a baby, and she says something like, I can’t take care of another thing, which leads me to believe that, like, she spends so much time managing her marriage. Does that make sense? No, I absolutely think that could be the reason she’s not ready for a baby. It’s not so much her as being worried that she’s gonna get into a situation where we’ve seen other people, Jax and Brittany, I would say, pretty similar, where the partying is more important than being home for the child. And Kyle starts playing music at whatever time it is after they get back from their boys night. And he’s, oh, I accidentally put it in the speaker in our room. It’s like, why? First of all, could you imagine I put myself into that situation? Yeah, and not that age is a thing, because Amanda’s younger, but the fact that Kyle’s my age always I have to laugh at. So I’m like, and I picture my husband, who’s my age, and I picture him like, just being so thoughtless to wake up the whole house, like the whole house, yeah, it’s he bothers me. I agree more. And just like all the emails of him out till 5am and spotted and like, whatever he’s doing, I’m not even getting into that. That’s not my investigation. I’m not his wife. I’m not interested in breaking up anyone’s marriage or whatever, I just have to say, and I have to say this, Amanda’s sitting there on the after show slamming Craig. I’m not saying Craig’s without fault. I don’t mind if Sierra wants to have it take a hit. Lindsay Gabby, but you’re it’s would be like Britney married to Jack’s slamming shorts. It doesn’t really work. Yeah. That is so true. That is such a good point. It makes you think, Am I missing something? Yeah, I and guys sometimes like and this is where reality TV, I think, is a good and a bad thing for some of these couples, because it’s really hard to see some things sometimes when you’re just in it, but when it’s five seasons later that you’re married and your husband is still behaving the same exact way, yeah, and you’re lying like and people like us are saying it. And this is a reality TV thing, and it’s not a reality TV thing because he wasn’t on reality TV at Coachella. He’s not on reality TV when he’s DJing events in different cities, cities and staying out to all hours of the night. Yeah, that is his lifestyle. So even if Amanda and Kyle leave the show, which they won’t, unless they’re not asked back, his lifestyle is this and so even if they’re off the show, he’s always going to pop up like shorts does. He’s always going to be in that Bravo sphere, but he’ll also have the notoriety of being Kyle cook and being a summer house star for so many years and DJing and so he’s 43
he’s turning this summer. So what are we looking at? Are we looking at 50 years old? Him, stopping this at eight. Listen, and I want to be clear about this, if Amanda were a girl, like, there are who was a party or herself and like, this was their lifestyle. Like, I know couples who party like this that are my age. The thing for me is that only one person in the marriage is interested in doing this, yeah? Like, I’m sure people that, like, it’s any for sure, then, like, I know what. You’re having a husband who’s obsessed with fishing or golf, yeah, my husband.
Sports, and loves watching sports, and I don’t love it as much, but it’s very different. When you’re like out, it just affects your whole day, like the next day, that person, regardless, is hungover, they’re sleeping later. Like, it’s two different lifestyles. It is. It definitely is. I agree. Do we have time? I feel like we have so much. And we’ll get to because I want to see next week’s because we want to talk about Jesse and Lexi. I’m proud of Lexi. Are you proud of Lexi? I feel like we hold saw a whole different side of that girl this episode. And I think this is just a good point to always remember, is we see what the camera has let us see. Yes, you know. And when she was talking about how he FaceTimed her all the time, and that she like, I’m like, that would annoy that shit out of me. Just trying to live my life and go to work and do these things and like that would drive me crazy. I’m like, I’m glad that we’re finally getting to see this her side of it 100% I feel like we were duped, but we’re going to get to it, because I want to see next week’s episode, because in the clip, kind of looks like she ends it with him. She’s, you know what? This is done. So I want to get to that before we like I want to break it all down. Let’s break it all down. We love you guys. Thanks guys.
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