143. Southern Restraining Order; Will is mid; RHONY: Is Brynn defeated or delusional?

Because we usually record on Thursdays, we don’t often get to Southern Charm and Southern Hospitality, so we start there today. We have some exclusive scoop about Southern Charm and multiple(!) restraining orders. And Southern Hospitality’s Emmy – why her boyfriend Will is a whole other level of, ugh. TJ and Joey Bottles chat and we finally get the missing piece of the puzzle as to why TJ was so upset…Real Housewives of New York reunion part 1: Is Brynn defeated or delusional? Are Erin and Sai guilty of some of the same things they’re pointing fingers at others for? Jessel finally stands up for herself. We have some exclusive RHONY casting tea – who’s rumored to be on their way out?

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Hello, Amanda. What’s up? Cocktailers howdy B, we are recording in Hi howdy cocktails. We are recording early on a Wednesday today, because B is heading to Nashville. I’ve never guys. I’m sure I’ve mentioned I’m a huge country music fan. Always have been. I know country music is like on trend, but since I was a little girl in New York City, I loved Trisha Yearwood. She had the album. Do you remember? She’s in love with the boy? Loved it. And I always have listened to country. And somehow I’ve never been to Nashville. I don’t really know how that is, but I’m really excited. It’s a girls trip. My husband has actually been on work trip, though I think he’s a little salty. He doesn’t love country music. He likes some songs, but I think he’s a little salty that we’re not going, Oh yeah, but it’s all right. This is so we all have, we have our mom friends, our college friends. This is like my neighborhood high school group. So it’s gonna be like, really a lot of us, we live different places now. A lot of us don’t get together. Even the ones that live like when you have kids, you just go with that age group. And so some of my friends, I was one of the first ones in my group to get married. You guys know I was a child bride. I was 12. So a lot of my friends kids are a few years younger, so I just feel like we’re at different stages. I’m in the travel sports. They’re like, just starting to get there, kind of stuff. It’s gonna be so fun. You’re gonna love it. I used to actually go, by the way, do you have cowgirl boots? Oh, did I lose you? Oh, did you? Yeah, you went out for a second. Oh, weird. I don’t have cowboy boots. Oh, maybe I’m good guys, out there, good, there’s good, there’s really good boot shopping there and then. So I used to go for work a lot, so it has changed so much. The last time I was there, like in the like late 2000s or odds, I don’t know what you call that, but anyway, I used to go there a lot. And then I went on a girls trip in 20, God, 1617, it’s changed so much you’ve got to hit up tootsies. They have a live music stage in the front, in the back, there’s one upstairs. Have you heard of it? Maybe one on the rooftop. I know they have a rooftop. I can’t remember if there’s music up there, but a.
Funny Nashville story, because they say about Nashville, you never know who you’re gonna see. So I was in tootsies. I was in the front the guy. This guy gets up on stage and acting like he’s drunk and starts singing low places, which everybody knows the words. Everyone’s in low places, but he’s acting like he doesn’t know the words. And we’re all like, Who is this dude? How do you not know the words this song? And why is he on stage? And then all of a sudden he, like, it was a trick, right? He starts belting it out. And we’re like, Who is that? And this guy next to me, he’s, that’s John Michael Montgomery, so he’s, I would say, maybe from like, the 90s country star, just, and then just hops up on stage. So I know the name. I’ve heard that. I’ve heard that like people out, like country stars, and I probably would know their music and not recognize, like I would recognize Sam hunt, yeah, yeah. I definitely want to go to sewing down south. I have to look it up. I assume it’s on, like, the main strip or close to it. Yes. And there is Kristen Cavallari store. Is there too? I would die to see her. I would die to see Justin Anderson, her Biffy. Oh, I love who her former hairdresser, who’s now like a celebrity hairdresser, yeah, and he is, he listens to our pod, and he loves Bravo, so he DMS me, like, just like, laughing at memes and stuff. But because I’m with my friends who I never see, I don’t want it to be like, we’re getting in Thursday night, so we have Friday, Saturday and we’re going home Sunday. Yeah, so there’s not time for me to be like, Hey guys, can we meet up with Kristen cavallaris, hairdresser? Did you tell him? I say hello because I love him. I love him. I love Yeah, you’re gonna have him. You guys are gonna have the best time. You’ll have to tell me, if you get on one of you’ll know what I mean, when you get back, if you get on one of those flatbed trucks, like the party barges, you’ll know. I mean, I feel like we’re going to and I bet you will. I know we have a brunch, and my friends booked. I’m not the organ. I’m the party. I’m not really the organizer. I love that. It’s I’m always happy to let other people play on that kind of stuff too, and I’ll go with the flow. I’m not my friends. Like, do you want to do this? Do you want to do that? I’m like, as long as I have cocktails and I’m listening to country music, I’m down for absolutely anything. Yeah, you guys pick the spots. If some of them have been there, like most of them actually have been there, and everyone has their recommendations from their friends. So I’m like, let’s do it, and then some of the bands, it depends, but you can usually, if it’s somebody’s birthday, you can usually give them 20 bucks and have them do a request, and your friend can get up on stage, and if you so choose to do that kind of thing, it’s so fun, you’re gonna love it. Okay? So we usually record on Thursdays, which is the night of southern charm and southern hospitality. So because of that, we don’t get into it as much. So let’s start there. Today. We actually got insider scoop on Southern charms episode that was hard to understand. It was in cocktail party. So for those of you that aren’t cocktail party members, I’m gonna explain the post. After Molly’s two performance, everybody went back to J T’s, like entertainment space, which, by the way, is for sale. I don’t know if it sold, but the way the scene was edited, it was really confusing. It seems like everyone was mad at DJ only because of what he said to Taylor about Gaston and Sally. But that was just part of it, and inside source told me that. So JT claims what we saw was JT claimed that Gaston cheated on a long term girlfriend with Sally. So Sally is the new cast member who also had a one night stand with Shep. So her and Taylor are very much not fans of each other. Taylor shuts it completely down. That’s not true. She storms away from JT, she storms out. Sally admits that, yeah, when I met Gaston, although Taylor said it wasn’t true, Sally was like, yeah, actually, I didn’t know he had a girlfriend. I hooked up with him, and she was very honest when she said she sucked his D a little bit. Everybody was like, whoa. So she admits she’s and I found out after and he broke up with her, and we went out, first red flag for Sally, but in any event, he went on to cheat on Sally. Sally says we told each other we loved each other. I guess she wasn’t super surprised that he cheated on her, because how you get him is how you lose him, right? She isn’t saying he cheated on me with Taylor, so I don’t know what Taylor I guess Taylor just wants everyone to see him as this great guy. And if he’s a notorious habitual cheater, no one’s gonna see him as a great guy. And this makes a little more sense about why he doesn’t like to come around exactly because he’s getting called out, and I also feel like he doesn’t want to address the Sally situation on camera. I’m sure he lied to Taylor and said I wasn’t with my girlfriend when I hooked up with Sally. So if he comes around, he’d have to be honest about that, all those things. But that isn’t why Craig stormed out. So we see Craig get upset.
And stick up for Sally and be like JT, we spoke about this. Why are you talking about things that don’t pertain to you? Say it once you’ve told Taylor that Gaston was a cheater, she’s aware that you believe he’s a cheater. Now you have to just rehash it and really call Sally out. But it wasn’t just that. So when we see So Craig storms out, and then later we see JT leave, and he’s walking with Vanita. So there was some sort of creative editing on productions part. But what we didn’t see is apparently the entire cast flipped out, and for good reason, the new guy, Ryan posted to his stories, and it didn’t make sense to anybody. So what I gathered from sources was that JT attempted to present on a television screen at his entertainment space blackmail against some of the female cast members. So there is somebody who my sources refer to as the stalker. So there is a woman in Charleston who more than one cast member, male and female actually have restraining orders for Wow.
I cannot say who they are, obviously, because if this person is Yeah, considered a stalker, we’re not gonna hurt anyone’s we’re not gonna feed Yeah, right. But the cast basically flipped out because the stalker with a restraining order on more than one cast member started hooking up with JT. So when JT says, My friend told me it’s actually this stalker who he was hooking up with, she, according to my source, has been wanting to get on the show. She hooked up with JT with the intention of getting on the show. She told JT a bunch of stuff. Obviously gave him some sort of recording that would have made a female cast member look bad, and he brought it up while filming. So we see them all mad at JT, and we see Craig mad, and it seems like it’s just because he confronted Taylor and said, Sally’s business. But it’s actually much more than that. The cast was actually mad at production, and the showrunner was fired shortly after this scene. Oh, there would not have happened. Yeah, in JT, we saw how well that went for Kenya. More, I just, I gotta say, What? What is on the screen? The other cast members have a visual distaste for him, like Shep, especially just, if you just watch Shep’s face when they’re anywhere near JT, it’s like he looks like he just ate bad tuna. And Craig, too, actually. So Craig, I think this is me reading into everything. I think Craig is just going along and being a good boy for production filming with JT, but I think he just, I get the ick from that guy through the screen grosses. I guess production feels like he can bring drama. Let’s remember, he’s a new cast member, so he also comes cheap, so it’s he doesn’t cost a lot to have on, and he’s willing to say just about anything and get everybody all worked up. So it works for them, until it doesn’t, of course. So it’s interesting to me, though too, that Vanita did actually date because we didn’t believe it. We didn’t think that really actually happened. But it sounds like she actually did date him for a little bit, based on, I think I saw an interview about that, and then he had sounded like he ghosted her or something. That’s what she said, and I have to be honest, because like, You, He gives me the ick. I feel like Vanita is such a catch, and she was doing it for a storyline, but I did see that interview where she seemed like genuinely ranked by him, yeah, yeah. So at a minimum, I think that they, she thought they had a real friendship, and maybe there was a little bit of an attraction, because she was saying, like, oh, he looks yummy, like, whispering into Leva, right? He’s not bad looking. I mean, he is bad looking when you like, hear him talk, but if you just look at him, he’s fine. Yeah, he’s just one of those people. I think his soul is very visible on his body, and it’s icky. Okay, moving on to Craig. He has, by the way, I’m watching this scene when there’s he and Craig are sitting outside at Craig’s house, and it they just look like the two uncles sitting outside. I don’t know why this like, it’s just funny, like their little vibe, but they have their little heart to heart, which is cute. And Craig says, Yeah, I’m waiting for Paige to be ready for marriage and kids. She changes her mind all the time. One minute she hates New York, one minute she wants to move to Charleston, and then the next day she has a good day in New York. So now, knowing what we know, it it just, it sucks. It’s just, I think the beginning of the end, yeah, and in confessionals, Craig even flat out says, I’m scared that I’m gonna wait and she’ll keep pushing back the timeline. It’s pretty clear that they were having, which we all assumed, a conversation about when they would be engaged. He doesn’t seem during filming to have this fear that she wants to break up.
Up. It seems more so beast in her not being ready at the same time he’s ready. Like Kashyap says, Craig, you’ve always wanted this white picket fence, like you’re almost there. And I can just see that he was saying he was willing to compromise for her. But it’s it could be something where he was saying that on television and saying something different to her, right? Yeah, like, it’s usually the women. I’m just thinking back to when my friends were getting engaged, and it was usually my girlfriends who were ready, and their boyfriends who will get engaged next year, because I’m going to get a promotion and we’ll have more money to buy a house then, like, right, literally thinking the exact same thing that you you’ve heard this story told a lot of times, but it’s usually the other way around. I actually can’t think of a situation where it was the girl, but Yeah, and like, his friends don’t help I know. And I think everybody listening has been there where your friend wants to move to the next step and their boyfriend isn’t ready. And you do sometimes have to say to a good friend, if he’s saying five years and your timeline is now, maybe you should break up. Yeah, you know what I’m saying, and that’s what Austin and Shep are saying to him. And I think now that they’re broken up, we can look at it and be like they weren’t really being assholes. They were saying, Craig, you want this, and are you sure you want to keep pushing it back, because what if it doesn’t happen with her? And I have to say, if it were Paige and Sierra having the conversation, I don’t think any of us would be saying, Oh, Sierra and Amanda are being bitches. I think we would be like, hell, yeah, she should split. But somehow, because it’s the guy, I think that’s part of the reason he’s made it Austin. I think there’s so much more right, because there’s this implication that Craig, not a statement, really, that Craig has changed, but this implication that he’s just not that fun anymore, and that he doesn’t essentially want to go fuck around and get drunk. And so there’s, I think there’s more to it, but there’s also this implied blame, that it’s Paige’s fault that Craig has changed, which is, I think, very unfair, because guys need to grow up at some point, unless You’re shop and have mailbox money, yeah, mailbox money.
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So in present day this week, du moi said that Paige is in Miami with the guy that we posted a video of her at the Eagles game. She hasn’t posted anything to stories to deny. In other words.
Hasn’t posted a picture of her in her parents’ house or whatever in New York. So it feels and again, she’s single, but it feels like if, in fact, she wasn’t spotted in Miami, as we’re all assuming, maybe she would try to combat that with a real time post of her not Miami, which she hasn’t done. And we see on Sierra’s story, Sierra’s in Miami. So it all makes sense. The word is that she’s dating him. People are saying it’s fast. The timeline is something that people are very hung up on. People keep being like, when did they break up? They both said it was around before the holidays. They were together on Thanksgiving. So I guess any time from the beginning of December until they announced it, which was right after Christmas, could be the timeline on her recent pod, not the most recent one, but the one before. She said, I’ve only been single for two months, but her initial breakup announcement, she said it was right before the holidays. So I do get that for her own sanity and for the backlash of the haters, she may be purposely making the timeline seem longer. Yeah, we know. And Amanda, we have you. And I have said it a million times, when a woman is done, she knows she’s done long before she actually pulls the plug. And it couldn’t have been an easy situation. We’re watching the season. Clearly, Craig does not want to break up. He wants to compromise. He wants to work it out. He’s willing to adjust basically everything in his life to a point, but, like he not, moved full time to New York. So I get what people are saying that it was fast that she moved on, but some people really rebound, right? And she might know that she doesn’t want a forever thing with Craig, and her way of getting over it is distracting herself with someone new, if she wants, yeah, if she wants to date and get into something too fast that’s on her, go off page. Yeah, we’re still gonna talk about it. But who really cares? Even if she broke up with Craig call at the beginning of January, if she wants to go to Miami with some dude, we know that she didn’t cheat guys, let’s move on. I did think it was interesting. I listened to giggly squad this week, and she announced on the show that she’s freezing her eggs. So I think that’s something we’ve already talked about. The fact that she said this was what I thought was really interesting is that she said she always has thought she would do this, even when she thought like by now I would have had kids shoes, but I still would still free some eggs, because I might want to have another kid later in life. So Hannah actually called it, it’s like a mental health thing. And I was like, she’s so right. I’ve always thought about it as an insurance policy for your future, so that you’re not having to make decisions on anybody’s timeline but your own. But to call it like a mental health thing, I was like, That is such a good point. And I think I like it that they brought it up and then they talked about this, because it’s definitely something that I would have done had I not been lucky enough to not have my kid I have my kids with that IVF, or had I not been ready to have kids listen? We spoke about it, and we never really followed up, but so many of you reached out when I said, I believe I said it in regards to, like, basically, when they broke up, I was like, people are putting her on this timeline, but she can freeze her eggs. And I said it’s something that I certainly would have a conversation with my daughter and want to help her. I honestly have no idea how much it costs or what insurance covers, but I think that it is an incredible option for women to have, and it’s something that I love, that Lindsay and Brynn and now Paige are normalizing. Because I remember, like I said, I got married when I was 26 I had my kids a couple years after. I remember being nervous and I was in my late 20s, right? Because we are told that it gets harder and you’re considered a geriatric pregnancy at something like 35 Yeah, five, and I had both of my kids before then, and I have to go back and really think to myself, would I have had kids as quickly as I did, if this was more normalized? Or would my husband and I have said our careers are moving and shaking. We wanna travel more. This is something our insurance mostly covers, like freeze your I can’t go back in time and say what I would or wouldn’t have done, but it’s something that I am and I just think that in this world where we’re constantly as women, trying to be on equal footing with men, yeah, it is a real, tangible opportunity to do that. Right? Yeah? Because, God knows, look at dumb ass Thomas Ravenel popping his first kid out at 60. Like we just don’t have that option. No, we don’t. We don’t. So I love that she’s talking about it. And I think for her audience base, which are women her age, a little bit younger. Of course, there’s people.
Like us a little bit older? Yeah, I do know people who froze their eggs, but they were in their mid 30s, and I already had my kids by then. And it really is, I know I could think of two people, and both those people work in the medical field, gas, nurses, that kind of thing. So like to me as a woman in her early 40s, as compared to women now in their early 30s, much more normalized for the girls a few years younger than us. Yeah, I agree it’s it’s just good to see people talking about this, because I feel like it used to be this very kind of vague thing that nobody really talked about. And here we are talking about it. Let’s switch to southern hospitality. So Will and Emmy, as we know the last couple of episodes, it’s been essentially implying that will has been and people saying to Emmy that he’s not being faithful, and that he went to Republic and talked shit on her. And I just, I gotta say it, it is one brand of shitty to go around cheating on your girlfriend, but it is a whole other level of shitty to do, to go to your girlfriend’s place of work, to talk publicly, talk about her body with other people, and to talk shit about her. This guy can go, he can go kick rocks. I’m sorry. I just I don’t think going to law school gives you carte blanche to be an asshole, even in Charleston, where apparently guys get away with a lot more. I don’t even think he’s cute, not that life is about looks, but I don’t get I don’t think he’s charming. I think he is just there. We got an email that insinuated someone on the show was on Adderall. I’m gonna assume, because Emmy has lost a lot of weight, her demeanor, her reactions to things, are outsized, like she’s changed from when we first met her, even when she was asked if she used her credit at a store to buy the dresses for the girls at Republic, it was just a very out of order response, yeah, with that said, and I hope that it’s not true, and I hope that she’s perfectly fine. Again, this is speculation from an email. I have no actual proof. I’m not saying that any of that is true. And Adderall is a prescription medicine that she could have been prescribed as well. We don’t know absolutely. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. It’s Oral Care Month, which means you can earn four times points on all your favorite oral care brands now through July 15, shop in store or online for items like Colgate toothpaste, Listerine, mouthwash, crest mouthwash or toothpaste, Sensodyne toothpaste, hello, toothpaste, or G, U, M, flossers and earn four times points. Points can be redeemed for future discounts on gas or groceries. Offer ends July 15. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com for more details.
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Her girl like she’s so wrong. It’s just gonna get worse. He’ll continue to behave badly, but then Emily will be trapped in a bad marriage.
Girl, you are in danger. Get the f out while you can. Yeah. 100%
the conversation with Joe Bradley and TJ, where Joe actually finally addresses the rumors that we had heard a while ago, back when the show started. I think that he and TJ had hooked up. Joe says, essentially, they crashed at this it’s, I can’t remember whose apartment they slept in the same bed. He’s used to like reaching over and cuddling, and he cuddled TJ, and things change when they slept in the bed together. Joe, down plays it. TJ looks very hurt, and says, No, it wasn’t nothing. Why can’t I talk about something that also happened to me? To your point, we did receive this. And if this was three years ago, it was when the show first came out. We do not out people, yeah, so that is why we never posted it. I honestly assumed Joe would never admit it, because we heard it from a variety of different sources, and it’s known in Charleston. I have to assume that TJ said I will not mend or move forward with Joe without discussing on camera, and good for him. Clearly, this was a big missing piece of the story, and without it, TJ is hurt and anger just doesn’t make sense. Because if it’s about the Luann thing, TJ is clearly wrong there, which he acknowledged, because he did betray Joe’s trust. He has or had deeper feelings for Joe. To Joe, it seems it was a drunk a drunken event, right? Because I don’t even think he will say, hook up. I have to imagine that as they’re filming, it’s very difficult for TJ to see Joe and Maddie dating so seriously on watch what happens TJ, he was on with Taylor from southern charm. He said that things are good with him and Joe. He admitted that at first, everyone thought Maddie and Joe’s relationship was for the show, but now he believes that Maddie and Joe are very much together. They’re together every day. He’s happy for them. He said him and Joe are in a good place. I think when he says to Joe, like it wasn’t nothing for me and I should be able to talk about my experience, my experiences, I think it really does click for Joe, and I think as a quote, unquote straight man, because he Joe presents as a straight man, right, whether he’s bisexual or questioning or whatever right he is, he presents publicly as a straight man. So I think that it’s one of the hardest things a straight man can do, because there is a stigma where now people are gonna say he’s gay. So I was actually impressed that Joe was honest about it. Yeah, didn’t just say fine, TJ and I won’t be friends, because I’m never saying that on camera, because he could have done that too. He’s a popular personality on the television show. He wasn’t gonna lose his job if he didn’t say it. But it does make everything make a little bit more sense, now that we have that puzzle piece in place. And I think, and I am not a man so, but I think certainly on other reality shows, there’s been an undertone. I think it’s something, and we saw Abe Lici on New York this season actually say something like, I’ve actually thought of hooking up with guys. And I think it’s so common for women to admit that, yeah. And I think it’s so much less common for straight men to say it, oh, sure, yeah, because, like, things aren’t all one thing or all the other thing. So yeah, I just, I think I have to say Joe. I have always put in like, the shallow reality star bucket, and I think I’m gonna have to take him out of that bucket now, yeah, it’s that is not an easy thing to even bring up. And you’re right, he didn’t have to do it, but it does, especially where they live in the south, not the same. We remember actually Carl, in early seasons of summer house, somebody outed that he had received a blow job from a guy, and he was honest about it, and then he like, clammed up. And then there was the situation with him and the former castmate Steven, where it was implied that they had hooked up, and Carl never addressed it. You have to think that New York is more liberal open than anywhere in the South. Is this progress as a society? I hope for people to be who they are and not feel like, yeah, they’re gonna lose reality, jobs, other partnerships, brand opportunities, all that kind of stuff. Friendships, even having gay men on out in Charleston, TJ has said that has been a really difficult part of his journey. So it’s, it’s, I think it’s good that we’re talking about this, and now, like I said, we have that puzzle piece which makes all of it make a little more sense. I didn’t see it, but I read that Taylor, you mentioned her on Watch What Happens Live. She said she’s been talking with Olivia, and Olivia reached out to her and that they’re working on you.
Repairing their friendship. It’s interesting that she said this Taylor, because the source reached out to me and said, Can we talk about Taylor lying and saying her and Olivia are friends on watch. What Happens Live? This person said the last I heard from Olivia, Taylor was sending her friends on finsta to harass Olivia’s mom about her son who had passed. Now I don’t know if there’s any truth to that guys, I spoke with Olivia when season, when the season was already filming, and they were not speaking, and Olivia was not interested in reaching out to her. So for Taylor to say that she reached out when the season was filming was weird. Also, some of you guys said that Olivia commented on a post. Maybe it was a Watch What Happens Live post that it wasn’t true. I didn’t see that. I just heard from this source. So listen, it’s no secret that we, on cocktails and gossip, are not huge fans of Taylor, seeing her come at Sally like I do understand that your current boyfriend dated her, so you may be uncomfortable she had a fling with Shep, but Taylor is a woman who never holds men accountable. Yeah, it gives me the ick shutting down when anyone says anything about Gaston, him not showing up for events, her being left to take up for him. She doesn’t fit in with the group. I don’t know why she’s on the show. I do understand why Olivia isn’t there because she’s engaged, not fully living in Charleston. But Taylor doesn’t fit in either. She’s friends with the southern hospitality crew, maybe, if the network likes her so much, not that I feel we need her, but that would make sense. I just I feel like Taylor’s time is up on Southern charm. I think we’re gonna see a little bit of a rework on Southern charm. To be honest, I’m cool with that period. Dot. I don’t feel the need to see her. Won’t miss her. I’m actually really enjoying Molly. And I love Sally. I really love both of them, the tuba. And, yeah, I like Sally. I like Sally a lot too. I’m with ya. And of course, we have to keep Austin and Craig and Shep, because I don’t know. I just can’t even picture that and seeing how their friendship evolves after crowd going through this breakup. I think will be interesting. Yeah, I think he secured himself. So let’s talk New York, the reunion. So obviously we know coming out of the finale, Brynn is going, walking right in to the oven here, and it was and she comes out at Jessel with this shady comment about Jessel walking right out of an appointment with the injector that Brynn hooked her up with. But we know that most reality stars, when they make those deals like that’s the quid pro quo. Quo is that they they don’t actually pay money. They pay with posts, which it sounds like Jessel did, which is probably what Bryn did as well, and probably everybody on that couch has died. That would have been a good question to ask Brynn, but then, yeah, her going in the jessel’s dressing room and just looking at her like she’s got two heads, when Brynn is just acting like, Yeah, I think everything’s fine. And just like, you think everything’s fine, yeah. And of course, Jessel was pissed and hurt about Brynn saying to Aaron and Psy and that bitch fest outside in Puerto Rico, that pop that Jessel had told her that pop, it wasn’t the love of her life. I was so happy to see Jessel stand up for herself. Jessel gets beat up by not just Brynn. Also Cy and Erin are guilty of that, yeah, and it’s so unwarranted, in my opinion. Jenna, who really has always given Brynn, in all situations, a lot of grace, and is usually generally mild mannered and the one to not go hard, right? She she wasn’t having it. She told Brynn that she needs to shut up and apologize, because she’s sick of her twisting stories and, in this case, ruining someone’s marriage attempting to Brynn just didn’t know how to manipulate and manipulate her way out of it. It looked, she looked totally defeated, and if anything, in my opinion, upset that she couldn’t spend it in her favor, like they all have her number and she’s mad about it. I can, I can see sympathy with Brynn in a lot of ways. I could see how Erin and Psy and Uber have been hard on her, yeah, but the fact that Brynn lied about what they were talking about, like craziest hookup versus love of your life, it was nasty from passage on camera, the discussion happened off camera, but either way, she knew full well that it would be jam damaging to jessel’s marriage. Cy and Erin were part of that conversation as well. Yeah, this is the second time that Cy and Aaron have come for jessel’s marriage. Even Aaron saying this season after that conversation, like, can you even picture them having sex? Like you could picture me and Abe having sex? It’s especially because Jessel doesn’t go below the belt with any of them. It just really upset me, and especially when Jessel said to Bryn, like, I.
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We see this reunion, and we’ll get to it moments where we see why Brynn would lash out, where we see why Brynn might want to twist where the other women aren’t nice to Brynn. But in the case of Jessel, this was just poor maliciousness to Jessel and pavit Completely unwarranted, because Brynn could not come back at her with one reason she would have to go after Jessel. And even more to the point how the conversation started by her trying to make jessels glow up like she was cheap, and she used the person that Brynn used, and I didn’t like how they all even Andy came that, and she was like, great. Why he’s not great? Great. Yeah, both a little it both of basic to me, because it’s like, why are we not asking everybody around the couch this question, why is it just Jessel and most of the women, with the exception for Uber and Brynn, are moms, and Jessel, the first season, started filming really soon after having her baby. And I think that any woman who has had a baby knows that not only do you have like body issues after you have a baby, because your body has changed so drastically, but just like your whole self, like your whole person. You’re a mom now, and it’s so life changing that good for her, for getting her groove back and feeling good. And who cares who on Bravo. Doesn’t have veneers, like it sounded so hater, yeah. Let me tell you, Jessel is a beautiful woman. She was a beautiful woman postpartum before veneers, before the sprinkle of Botox. And I can’t wait, and I hope that when Cy it’s her veneers or whatever, I hope she gets called out because it was such haterade. Have you ever been around somebody who is constantly taking selfies and it’s all about the Instagram content. I can’t really say there’s too many people in my everyday life that are like that. I had somebody in my life who was like that who is no longer in my life, and that’s where I will leave it. It’s really annoying, right? Because you’re like, trying to walk into a restaurant, and they’re like, I want to reshoot this of me walking up to the restaurant, you’re like, Oh my God. And I don’t know about you, but when I have people take a picture of me or me and my husband and my friends, I’m not like, Okay, I need to go through all of this and make sure that I like them, and then hold this person to keep taking more pictures. But so I will say actually annoyed, by the way, because if I have a nice outfit on, and I’m always just in the moment. The next day, I’m like, damn it, I’m not even my eyes are closed. I can’t even post this picture. But then I just will anyway, because I’m like, whatever. Yeah, my and my husband and I joke about this all the time, like we’re the worst about remembering to get pictures like the worst, because we’re so in the moment. That’s a good thing. But what the reason I was asking you that is, it’s annoying, and I’m sure that they all but it’s not hurting anybody. And it’s like, why are we trying to make this like monster out of Jessel when she’s just feeling herself? And I’m with you that it was good to see that she stood up for herself, because she is usually very much seemingly okay with things going over her head, yeah? And she didn’t let this one go. Also, it pisses me off, because in this group of women, they’re all on the gram. They’re all constantly in Yeah, they’re all doing the same thing she’s doing. It’s almost like they feel they’re better than her and she doesn’t have right to do it, which is what pisses me off. Yeah, that’s a good point. And that word you use about Brynn, like the word defeated. It’s funny that you said that, because I’m watching this and I’m like, God, look at her posture, like you watch it, and you see everybody else is sitting up. They’re engaged or leaning in. She’s leaning back and has like, turtleneck, her body language just essentially said, I give up. Can I ask you? Brin claims she didn’t watch the episode. And then, as she was having her hair and makeup done, we see her watching it. Yeah. Do you think that’s true, or do you think that was she watched it? She really even, in her master manipulating ways. Couldn’t think of great way to spin it, so she didn’t have a great spin. So it was a clever way, because she knew she wouldn’t be able to, like, get herself out of all the situation. So she tried on some But does that make sense? But yeah, I guess in a manipulation, I hope that same dot, because this is their job.
At the end of the day. And Bryn is brynn’s very smart, so either she was trying to make it seem like she doesn’t take it that seriously, or, as UBA said, she’s completely delusional about her situation and just didn’t realize or she wanted plausible deniability about really, like, the fact that she hadn’t reached out to anybody, that she hadn’t tried to apologize, that she, like, hadn’t done any of that as she was walking into the reunion so or she is just so defeated, and just, let me just get through this. But I do want to say I really felt terrible for her after she talked about her sexual assault, nobody got up and hugged her like I wanted to hug her through the TV, like somebody should have handed her a tissue, like something. Yes, they gave reassuring words and looks, but nobody got up and physically was like, I am so sorry. I would have expected Jenna or Raquel to be that person, so I was surprised that nobody did, yeah. Interestingly, the one who seemed to have the most empathy in the moment was Uber Yeah, who looked gore. She looks, oh my god, better than I’ve ever seen her. She looks gorgeous. Yes, you can see why. She’s a Superman model. Yeah, she’s just gorgeous. Another interesting thing is that we see Britain say to Psy, you were so unliked by the audience. You and Erin tried to get people to dislike me, and Psy was like, Huh? Listen, I believe that Psy didn’t like how she was received, and made a conscious decision to mention therapy and to try to be more Zen muted, yeah, yeah, but I don’t think she had a conscious plan to make Brynn the bad guy, like Brynn blamed Cy and Aaron for attacking her for five weeks. But Psy points out like they’re constantly showing clips of you lying. There are no clips of me lying. I just it. That was another spin on brynn’s part that didn’t land for me. But of course, there’s a lot of different opinions in my DMs, which we’ll get to some of that. I think I’m both be wrong. Cy was vicious and has been vicious. She was caught on TV just in one night, hurling six insults in a row. Bryn, that is gonna get at you. Just because you’re not lying doesn’t mean that the viciousness doesn’t count. But yes, I do think Brynn, yes, was caught some line, but I just, I’m still, just trying to put a finger on Brynn and figure her out. Is she as manipulative as the rest of the cast is trying to make her seem to be? I really, I don’t really think that she is. I think she’s really good at knowing where to poke people, to annoy and hurt them. I think she knows exactly what will get the ladies talking, like Jenna and her money. But do I think she’s a full on, straight up liar who is manipulating on purpose, right and left? I don’t think so. I think she needs practice at being a real friend and having real friends, because it doesn’t feel to me like she’s comfortable with her having a close female relationship, and I’m no therapist, but same therapy degree as my law degree from my closet. I think she does a lot of these things to keep the heat off of herself, not that makes it okay, yeah. I wanted to share this take that somebody messaged me their take on Psy and Uber, because many cocktails had similar point of views. And I like to show all sides, right? So we know that Britain’s getting a lot of the heat, yeah, but somebody said in my DMs, listen, I don’t trust Psy. Psy and Uber came into the season with an agenda. Brynn clocked both of them at the last reunion when she said to Psy, she’s good. She has enough friends and doesn’t need Psy. And then to Uber that she’s not afraid of her. This person said she believes the two teams up on Brynn. You’ll see in earlier episodes when Brynn was crying at Aaron’s house in the Hamptons and telling the ladies how she was feeling Cy and ubar in the kitchen eating fruit and rolling their eyes. I think they didn’t like that. Brynn was a fan favorite. There was a bit of envy there, and they ganged up on her. I agree with this. You can see it. You can I completely and again, that doesn’t mean that, like a lot of people did, over a lot of wrong things on this season, but I fully, I agree with the cocktails. Yeah, I think there’s nobody who’s innocent. Yeah, sitting on the couch. Don’t think Raquel and Jenna did anything. I was gonna say, Jenna and Raquel, I think, and Jessel, I think that Uber’s behavior was outlandish in a lot of the season, like her reactions and everything. And I think that Erin and Psy are guilty of a lot of the same stuff that Brynn is guilty of, with the exception of the main event, which is her saying that.
That Uber knew about the sexual assault. Brynn does have that Jeff Lew interview where Aaron didn’t 100% shut down, that Brynn has a sugar daddy, yeah? And then Psy, who I love, by the way, that size, yeah, I’m not in I was in therapy for four months. I’m not in therapy. Say you did it for the show without saying what she did. Say she goes, Psy goes. What do you do for work? I still don’t so glad you brought this up and Brynn had no answer. Brynn has told us that she does marketing and all of this stuff, and certainly she could have come back and explained again what she does, but she just looked like she had no strength or desire to fight. It brings me back to the fact that she woke and walked into this knowing nobody was in touch with her, nobody had contacted to her, and I think she was hoping for some resolve. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. It’s Oral Care Month, which means you can earn four times points on all your favorite oral care brands now through July 15, shop in store or online for items like Colgate toothpaste, Listerine, mouthwash, crest mouthwash, or toothpaste, Sensodyne toothpaste. Hello, toothpaste or G, U, M, flossers and earn four times points. Points can be redeemed for future discounts on gas or groceries. Offer ends July 15. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com. For more details. You’re standing 11 stories above Fremont Street, and then whoosh, you’re flying wind in your face, neon below your feet, and that electric rush of old Vegas lighting up around you. This isn’t just a zip line. This is slothzilla, a full throttle five block flight through the heart of the Fremont Street Experience over roaring crowds beneath the world’s largest overhead screen, alive with music and light. Slothzilla. It’s not a ride. It’s a Vegas story you’ll tell forever. Book your flight now@vegasexperience.com
I think we see Erin being a little bit softer. Her and Erin were giving each other nasty looks across the couch. Erin is somebody who can be presented with new information and soften or Yeah. Psy is done with Bryn. Sy was done with Bryn at the end of the first season, and anything Brynn has done since just further size case and size, there’s no backsies with Psy, full like, full on. And I’m with Erin, like, I definitely will change my mind about people depending on things. So I see that in her, and I identify with that. Back to brand, though, with the work thing, she has explained it. She explained it very clearly. And I understand that not everybody gets marketing, but when you’re trying to explain to people what you do without you don’t want to bore the like, when lawyers don’t say, really, I read 50 page documents every day or like they they will say, I work on behalf of my clients to make sure that they fully understand is my legal clients say this, that they know that they’re going, that they’re what they’re getting into and marketers. Bryn did say last season, I help brands get noticed. I help put them together with info. She said it very clearly, I don’t understand now we’re just being fucking mean, and cy is just as bad as the rest of them, and all the shitty shit that Uber said again, and I find the Psy piece of it ironic, because if anyone should get it, it’s py, who’s an influencer, which means so many things these days, but obviously Psy is number one, like, a pioneer in the influencer world, yeah? And a real legitimate, high end brand influencer and all of that. But anybody on the couch could just knock her and be like, Oh, you’re an influencer. Yeah? I thought when Brynn didn’t go back at that, I was like, she was giving up. Yeah, we see in clips for like, next week, brynn’s guess is too much now, like, her face is visibly swollen. We did hear, we know that shed casting, who cast for Roni, posted that they’re looking I heard exclusive Bravo and cocktails. What I’m hearing and of course, nothing is 100% firm, but what I’m hearing is what we all assume, that Brynn is out, Uber may be gone, maybe she’ll be friend of but the thing that I’m hearing, which we haven’t officially heard is that I don’t think Jen is going to be back, and that it may be mutual. So I heard this before we watched this week’s reunion, and when I saw Andy how pissed off he was and how he really grilled her on sharing in news articles and on Instagram, but not sharing with the women or on the show and Cass leaving a big event party storming out when Andy walked in and she tried to brush it off, and Andy was like, No cassing, she hates the show. It really made sense, because at first when the person told me, like, Jenna may not be back, I’m like, Oh, they said that last time. But now I’m starting to think that’s correct. Yeah, seeing the reunion, I agree. I did think that story about them running away from Andy out of that party was pretty funny. Or then I’m like, wait, I want to hear more about this party. You’re like, he’s like, the part the party took a turn, Bezos got there. I’m like, tell me more about this party, and he we’re gonna see it next week. But I thought it was really interesting in the clip when Becky Minkoff came on the show. And, of course, guys, she won’t be back. She was a bomb.
When she came on the show, it was presented like she was Aaron’s friend, and Aaron took up for her at first, and then we noticed that she didn’t anymore. And I thought it was very interesting when Erin said, and again, it’s, I believe it’s a clip for next week, but Erin says like her and aber in debt because they had a handbag line, which I knew about because I’ve heard her mention it on pods. And then apparently Rebecca made fun of her about it like that, her bag line had failed. Oh, Rebecca certainly does seem to have a mean edge, like we saw it when she made the comment about Bryn. And then she said, not being a mother and not understanding. And she said, Oh no, I meant to say, like that, I want us. Yeah. So I thought that was interesting. I’m interested to see. Because I did hear and I also heard that it may not make the cut. I did hear Scientology comes up, so I’m interested to see, because there’s some like, real wild stuff, if what I heard is true and makes the cut. But I want to say, for everyone who says Roni is boring, I can understand if people tune into housewives for the camp of it and prefer a show like Salt Lake City or the silliness of Sonia showing her tush and Luanne falling in bushes. I can totally appreciate if you tune in to housewives for a light experience. But to say Roni is boring isn’t a true statement. There’s so much depth here. The fact that Erin Jenna and Raquel in the after show, Raquel all shared about having an abortion. Yeah, we have the abortion. We have the sexual assault. We have freezing eggs. We have such real issues that women deal with the whole thing with habit and sigh and the weird position that that Jessel is in. And you can tell this is really painful for Jessel, and again, just handles that with such class, by the way, yeah, because I don’t want to forget, and I don’t want anyone to forget. And Jessel said it very kindly, but Aaron and Psy both insinuated that jessel’s husband was going away to have sex with a prostitute. Yeah, and I don’t agree with what pavit said about Psy. I think apologies need to happen on both sides, and I don’t see Psy acknowledging it. And I think Psy will be back, and I think they love that. Psy is like a real Brooklyn girl and an influencer, and has that whole she very much lives the New York lifestyle. She’s got the brownstone in Brooklyn. She’s got the beautiful upstate Berkshires esque house. I get it, but I also, I can’t help but think that, sigh, decide she likes or doesn’t likes and sticks with it and very stubborn. And that doesn’t really make for a great housewife a lot of times. Yeah, how willing to try well, and she doesn’t really take accountability for the stuff that she does. Right? She says there’s that way meaner things to people than you know what? Pavit now I agree. I think it’s very different, too. If it’s a husband saying this about your wife’s friends, I think there’s a whole layer there. I’m not excusing what he said or did by any means, but I feel like on a daily basis, she says meaner stuff, but she only sees it from her place, and she doesn’t seem to take accountability for it. So I’m not sorry. I’m just I guys, I have a soft spot my heart for Bryn, and I am not a sci fan, and that’s that’s okay, and maybe Psy can. Psy could change my mind. I am not like a side. I can change my mind about people. See, for me, I feel like in real life, I would be friends with Psy, because I get it. I get her personality. I understand it. I just don’t know that it’s so interesting on TV, because you need to be somebody more like Erin, who feels very strongly and then goes back on it. Yeah, we have watched these women over the years do terrible things and forgive each other, and if you don’t have that capacity, yeah, I agree, because love you guys. I will, I’ll be back from Nashville. I will have recommendations. I think, who knows what? I’ll remember, if I’m being truthful, and hopefully some boots. Oh, I’m definitely gonna get boots. I can’t wait to see them. Definitely gonna get boots. We love you guys. Till next time.