148. True Crime tangent; Jax is sober, Brittany reacts; What’s Kyle’s stance again? The Shaws mess; Southern Hospitality reunion tea

A what we’re watching tangent turns into another tangent about why neither of us watches much true crime. Jax admits  he has a cocaine problem and says he is 83 days sober…we cover this and Brittany’s response. Can we all agree to stop asking people who are in toxic marriages why they didn’t leave sooner? Paige and Kyle finally go head to head. We’ve got lots of thoughts on this, but ultimately, can someone really explain why Kyle is mad at Paige? Kathy Hilton’s brand of shade is one of the best. Was the fashion show scene a bit on Kathy’s part? We think so. Did we love it anyway? Yes. We have an interesting theory on what is really going on with Kyle and Mauricio. The Shahs mess is getting messier. We break the whole situation with Gigi and Paulina down and explain who all of the other folks involved are. Last but not least, some exclusive tea about what happened at the Southern Hospitality reunion.

What’s up? Cocktailers, hello, Amanda. Hi. B Hi, cocktailers, how you feeling today? Ah, we just a little behind the scenes in both for you guys. We just recorded cocktail party before, which we usually do after, but we had Lauren from big blonde hair on talking Oscar stuff. There were we had some funny comments about some of it. So I am still giggling to myself about that whole conversation. Yes, the butt crack. The butt crack. Yes, the top of the butt crack. Specifically, you guys lucky. It’s it’s an interesting week. I feel like I was just thinking about this morning that Karen huger sentencing was a week ago. She has been in jail or in custody, I guess, already for a week. And it’s amazing how everyone’s already forgotten. Everyone’s already forgotten. And Giselle came out and said that she had the option to do home arrest, and decided not to what a moral home arrest or six months in jail? Which? What was it? No, 60 days in jail. Let’s play a game. Which would you have chosen? 60 days in jail or six months health house arrest, six months house arrest, because under percent I somebody told me I had to stay in my house. I mean, you could send Mr. Ray or Mr. Blue eyes, whichever, get your groceries, as a matter of fact, they have delivery services for that. Now. She has a beautiful home. It’s a luxurious home with a beautiful backyard. And if you’re on house arrest, I think you’re allowed to leave for a doctor’s appointment. And I don’t know, because I usually think of house arrest like Theresa, which was after you serve. And I think there’s like, less conditions, so maybe it would have been strict, but under no circumstance would I want to go to prison for 60 days. So, yeah, house arrest. Oh, sorry, I can’t I’m on house arrest. I’d get fat as a house but, yeah, I completely agree. I would be like, I have no choice. I am doing an hour and a half of peloton a day. I’m not going anywhere. Yes, I agree. I like my house too. So I think I would be pretty like I wouldn’t I? That would have been my choice as well. So and have started a podcast, not that anyone would want to listen after what she’s been doing, but it’s just the fact that she turned all that down. And I do wonder, like somebody said to me, when it went down, she’ll end up serving nine months. We know that Jen Shah sentence got reduced a couple of times. She’s out in 2026 now, yeah, Thanksgiving and next year. Yeah, she’s she’s only been in two years. So it went from nine years to three years. I.
Wonder how that book that she’s writing is going. She’ll never be back. So we had a cocktail. Who was at, watch what happens live once when her sentence was reduced a couple of times ago, and Andy was like, make no mistake, that woman will never be back on our screens. So at, bravo, she’ll probably do, oh, I don’t even want to discuss this, but Casey Anthony is on Tiktok and has 50,000 followers. Like, shame on anybody following that woman. But like there, obviously there are people who will follow Jen shop. There are
hombre chasers. Feel about the fact that there is a documentary called scamanda I knew about the podcast, actually, and I still haven’t listened, because I it’s one of those where I’m like, I feel like I know the story, and I know that there’s so much to it, and it’s shocking the amount of detail that goes into it. I had to show on like, in the background when I was cooking the other day. I was in the kitchen for a while, and I just put it on, and I was like, half watching scamanda, a real sick person, like, real Yeah, I want to watch that Ruby Frank or Ruby Frankie documentary, too. I was thinking that, but I just, I feel like it’s going to be very disturbing. Yeah, I know command was very disturbing, but abusing children, I don’t know. Yeah, I agree. I never watched anything with the Casey Anthony. Try. I just couldn’t i It wasn’t something that I could bring myself to my cousin, shout out to my cousin, because she’s a cocktail. She was like, obsessed with it. You know, how like you get. And certainly, here I am. I have a podcast about Bravo. So I’m wanting to talk about being obsessed with something, but she was like, so invested in it, and then so upset with the results. And I was like, I can’t even watch it. Never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know anything with that topic, I agree. It’s really hard for me to there’s just certain things that I just know better. And I can’t, yeah, I can’t watch and I don’t watch, so I’m also not a big True Crime person Me, either. We are so like, similar and different at the same time. Because I feel like most women are very much true crime. I know, and it’s odd to me. I don’t like I I don’t mind watching it like but I get scared. Yeah, that’s exactly what I don’t I it, and it makes me question everything. And I don’t I understand that other people have this love. I think I just have this weird reaction me too. It makes me very nervous, because then I’m yeah, what if that’s somebody I know, yeah, and like, Don’t Dr Peterson, I started, like, watching when it came out again, and I had to stop, because I don’t know, he just seems like somebody that could be your neighbor, and it really makes me unsettled, I guess. Yeah, and that guy that had the the affair and ended up killing his pregnant wife, and that’s Scott Peterson, no, this is a different guy in Colorado. He and then he put him in the oil or something, and it was Jesus. It was awful. I yeah, I’m the same way, and I have this, I don’t know, over the last 510, years, I became very aware of how the media that I take in can affect me, and I started to be really selective about watching the news, because it just, yeah, I don’t want to have this. I don’t some of the stuff. It just it affects me, and I just know better that I’m happier if I’m not surrounding myself by it. Now, I’m not saying I don’t pay attention to the news, because I absolutely do, but I opened my New York Times app, I give myself 15 minutes, and then I close it. Amanda, I am You are me. I am the same way. And I think that’s one of the reasons why I like to focus on, like, reality television and shows and get really invested in that, because obviously I know what’s going on, and thankfully, my husband is somebody who stays very informed, so I know that if something terrible is happening in the world, I won’t miss it, but I also get very emotionally involved in it and feel sick and I just can’t I am exactly the same way. Speaking of news in Bravo news this week, Jax came out on a podcast, admitted that he has been addicted to cocaine since he was 21 he is now 45 he said that he went to rehab twice, and that it seems to have taken after the second time. He’s been 83 days Cali sober, meaning he said he still does some smokes little pot before bed to help him sleep. But what he said is, the second time he stopped drinking alcohol, because for him, cocaine and drinking went hand in hand, I can tell you that I got a DM today, that the person had a cameo from him in mid January, and he did not seem sober.
I guess it could have been weed. I hope he is sober. This clocks with what we had in cocktail party. It was an exclusive. It was never confirmed until Jax came out and confirmed it, but we heard that he was headed to rehab, back to rehab after we had all been told during filming he had gone. We know it must have been outpatient, because this whole time he’s been traveling, doing shows with Schwartz. We had heard and posted that he was in a very bad way. We wish him well. With that said, The valley is coming out once Beverly Hills is done. I still always want to call it Valley village, which was the working title, and that is still what I use for tags when I post about it on our way audio what you’re talking about. I think I get so many emails like that, and see people talking on Discord that I think people are tickled, actually, that you do that. Yeah. So I just will say that it’s pretty convenient timing. He went to rehab while filming as a result of his crazy behavior, which we’re all gonna see second season. So we’re gonna see him acting erratic. We’re gonna see him go to rehab. We’re going to see him come out of rehab with zero change behavior. So he went back to rehab. I think Britney statement, which, if you want to read it, I think Britney statement really speaks to the fact that this is largely performative. I think so too. So here’s what she said. And it was on a just a story, black background, white type. It said his addiction, unfortunately, has done irreparable damage to my son and I, I’ve spent years trying to help him. I wish more than anyone, I could say how proud I am of him today, but I’d be lying. His actions will speak for themselves and to those actioning asking why I stayed if I knew he had a problem all these years. You can’t help who you fell in love with. I’ve done absolutely everything in my power to get in the help he desperately needed. Unfortunately, I was naive and believed his empty promises and his pleas to change for year. Once you have a child with someone, it’s not easy to leave. It took everything in my power to gather the strength to walk away. For those who have been through similar you get it. For those who question me, I’m in a much better place. Now, I think what I took away from this statement was I wish more than anything, I could say how proud, but I’d be lying. His actions will speak for themselves. To me, means that he’s not sober, or if he is sober, it hasn’t caused a positive change in his behavior. We had spoke, I want to say over the summer about how he didn’t even fight her for custody and all of that. I would say that was probably when he was at his worst addiction wise. And he said there were times where it had more of a problem, I think, when he was off television, and they had bought their house, and they were not in the spotlight. I think that was probably the healthiest he was. I don’t know if it was a result of not having the money to do it, not being as much in the party scene, or what it was. And I think for him, maybe Coke was harder to buy during COVID, yeah, yeah. And I but I do think for him, part of his addiction goes hand in hand with access and money, right until when he didn’t have that, I think he was better off, which isn’t to say that he didn’t go on vendors here and there. And a lot of you guys pointed out the fact that he framed her as an end, two things can be true, she can drink too much, and he can be an addict, but the fact that he would even say that knowing that he’s blowing lines of coke is like hutchpa. Yeah, I read her statement, and actually I give I applaud Jax for admitting all this. I immediately thought after, especially after reading her post, how much relief she must have felt just that this is finally out in the open. Because, I mean, I think we, as cocktail ers, knew there was an issue, but I kind of wonder if most other people did. I think most of us didn’t buy the I like to modal on and do dad shit act right? But I don’t. I think some people did right. And so I think he also came out prior to this and admitted he has bipolar, narcissistic personnel like he some mental health disorder. Was his first admission. Yeah, because he first tried to make it sound like he was getting psychiatric help, and often people who do need psychiatric help, do self medicate. These are all things that we know. So he certainly just has a host of stuff going on. And for the sake of his child and co parenting, I hope he gets it straight, yeah, when he talked about coming out and that he wasn’t able to control his anger with Britney in the car in front of their son, can only imagine how scary that was for her. And I did want to just comment quickly about people criticizing her for not leaving earlier. We got you guys. We got to stop that narrative, because exactly what she said is it’s so true. It is in any situation, it’s not easy to leave when you might not have.
Have the resources. You might not have another place that you can go, you might, as a parent, be wrestling with, well, he says he’s going to do better, or he’s going to a psychiatrist. He’s getting some help. I want to give us a chance. Is this the best thing for my child? And I think there’s also a very real fear for if you’re in a marriage with somebody who has a substance abuse problem, and you have a young child, if you guys break up, that child is going to be alone with the person with a substance abuse problem. Oh, yeah, unless you’re brave enough to go to court and work so that isn’t a possibility. And like, our court systems are flawed, and somebody cannot do drugs and get sober and then relapse, and you have to leave your young child who is non verbal at the time with that person. Like that is extremely frightening. And as a mother, that would be reason enough for me to just to protect my child so that I’m always there and I know they’re safe, like, I can absolutely see that angle, because people will say, Oh, for your child, you should leave him. I absolutely understand that you want your child in a healthy environment. But if you feel like, yes, your environment at home, if it’s just you and the child will be healthy, but that child is going to have to see the dad, right? And do you know how long it takes for court dates and all these things before they cut it off and determine that they’re not fit. There’s so many layers. There are so many layers.
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To me saying, like, why didn’t you leave earlier? It just feels like another form of victim blaming. And I mean it, guys like, we have to stop. Because unless you’ve been in this situation, you can’t really understand how many different exactly what you said, how many different layers there are, and the bravery it takes and the I just we got to stop. We got to stop saying that, because it’s not okay. Yeah, I’m with you. Okay, let’s move on to somewhere a whole different, other kind of drama, toxic, such. Okay, finally, I said to you guys last week, I was like, You know what? I don’t want to start talking about this before we see the whole Kyle page blow up. We finally saw it come to a head Kyle’s DJ event. We saw a page so show Sierra his rage text about Craig. He’s angry at Craig for doing a deal with the spritz company. He’s mad at Hannah for going on a podcast and speaking poorly of him. Hannah said that he had her fired from summer house. So we see Paige in her bedroom with Sierra, and Paige says a lot of things. Most notably, what would he like me to do my boyfriend did a spritz deal. My best friend did a podcast. I have done nothing, and she’s really pissed off, and she says he’s lucky I don’t buy lover boy and sell it. I freaking love that. And it might be true. I mean, we read somewhere that the giggly squad tour made $13 million we’re seeing all this other stuff that Paige is doing. Obviously she doesn’t want to buy lover boy, but I think as more of a statement from Paige about Kyle thinking he’s the king around these parts, but Paige, I think Paige is definitely the more successful, and there’s a lot of displaced anger from Kyle, yeah. Paige about this, so like, good for you. Batty page, hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. It’s Oral Care Month, which means you can earn four times points on all your favorite oral care brands now through July 15, shop in store or online for items like Colgate, toothpaste, Listerine, mouthwash, crack.
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First of all, she definitely is worth more than him. Second of all, he hates that. I think there is a very large part of him that is jealous and period. Dot. Can’t you imagine Kyle sitting there and being like, How can I in a different way that’s not a podcast and not a podcast tour. How can I start getting live crowds and a bigger fan of, Oh, I’m gonna become a DJ and to his point, did he ask James Kennedy if it was okay if he DJed? What does Craig owe him? Craig knows him because Craig’s girlfriend is in a house with him. Let’s also note that, yes, Paige keeps it nice because they’re on a show together, because she’s friends with Amanda, but the way that Kyle has treated her, okay, he treated Hannah terribly, and those flashbacks were like, you almost forgot how awful he was to her, but he has said really rude, demeaning things to Paige as well. So like when Craig and Paige are alone, I don’t think they’re talking about how much they love Kyle. There’s a difference between making things nice for the sake of the cameras and for Amanda’s sake, and Paige wanting her boyfriend or her boyfriend wanting to go into business. Now, what I heard, I’m just going to put this out there, is that he was no longer taking investors for lover boy, which I believe he said last season, yeah, and that he was taking investors for flower boy, which is his new THC infused beverage. So it’s not the same thing, regardless if it is or isn’t. Craig did a deal with spritz. That’s his choice. Kyle went out and became a DJ. Did he have Paulie D and James Kennedy’s permission to do so? And why does everybody have to kiss Kyle’s ring? I don’t get it, and I think that’s where we’re Paige is not that, that we have to I don’t really feel like there’s I just don’t really understand his stance because Kyle’s stance, he didn’t apologize for rage texting page. He says he doesn’t like the way that Craig handled the such, but also he says he didn’t like the way Craig handled it, but it was a private let’s say I do believe they had a conversation about investing. Yeah, none of us knew about that until Kyle went on what watch, what happens live, and said he’s mad about Craig spritz deal, because Craig’s a liar. Craig does bad business. Craig can’t be trusted, so Kyle came out called Craig a liar in regards to his business world, which is pretty funny, because then in the bedroom, we see Paige saying that Kyle’s a liar. Kyle said lies in the Page Six interview. It’s he’s the one who brought it there. And I don’t remember Craig even having a response to him saying that. I’m sure he was pissed. I’m sure privately he had words with Kyle, and I guess we’ll see them have a conversation this season. He calls Paige two faced right when they have the whole blow up at dinner, and she very eloquently, screams in detail how she’s an adult. She was able to maintain a friendship with Hannah and a friendship with Amanda, how hard it was to be in the middle, how she never spoke poorly of either one of them to the other. And Kyle’s just sitting there so annoyed that she’s making logical sense, right? And we know that strong women are not something he’s comfortable with or appreciative of, right? And that’s where I’m like, and you and I as grown women who have had multiple different kinds of friendships, right? We’ve had our growing up friends, our college friends, our professional single years friends, our friends that we’ve made as moms, all of those. And you and I both know women’s friendships are complex.
Yeah, and the fact that Paige has been able to have such a close friendship, and that it’s clearly pained her that Amanda and Hannah are no longer friends, I feel this because I have experienced very similar situations where you’re like, I love you both.
I feel like I’m the one who’s being punished, yeah, because I want to continue to be both of your friends, and I understand the complexities of why you’re fighting, and I’m not trying to make you guys be friends again, but I’m also wanting, I’m not gonna. I don’t want to be I still want to be both your friends. I’m sure something 100 happens, 100% oh my gosh, yes. And I also want to say that I find it really ironic that we’re seeing Amanda and Kyle did an interview Page Six or US Weekly, where they basically they were sticking up for Paige. And Kyle is loving the opportunity to further slam Craig and how Craig should have stuck up for her when people were accusing her of cheating, but it’s would Kyle ever do that? If Kyle and Amanda split? Would Kyle ever stick up for Amanda if she dumped him, if she leaves him? No, he absolutely would not. It’s just not that. I think I’m pretty clear on where both of us stand, but let’s just say it out loud. Do you what side are you on in this whole situation? Paige, yeah, Hannah. Craig, yeah, all of their sides. Here’s the thing. I think that Paige saying this is history repeating itself is indicative of her recognizing I tried to move past the Hannah thing and chalk it up to, you know what? They both have their different interpretations of how things went down. But now he’s doing it again with Craig and so she’s this is just who he is as a person. Clearly, Craig is successful in business. He made a lot of comments on at Fan Fest in Miami after Watch What Happens Live when you call Craig a liar about his business. He also said, like, I wish I had Craig’s job, because Craig is just the face of things. He doesn’t actually do any of the work. Okay, if you follow Craig on Instagram, he is constantly at meet and greets. He is constantly at home shows. He’s obviously working. Does he have partners? Yeah. Does he tape the boxes closed with the pillows? Probably not anymore, but that’s called growth and expansion. Does Kyle still tape the lover boy boxes, I hope not. And if he does, then his business isn’t all that successful. Now, is it right? I 100% and I just think that’s I think the crux of it is that, and we, I got news for you guys. Wait for it, because we’re gonna see him do the same thing to Wes and to Jesse. These two guys came in a few years later. Every year, social media has gotten bigger, and brand deals and promotions have gotten bigger, and they’re younger and they’re fresh faces, and they have a lower asking price. Right now, we just saw them in a Wendy’s commercial. We just saw Jesse in a truly commercial, which, by the way, I know that Kyle wasn’t happy about that this summer, a little birdie told me, I seriously was gonna ask you about that. How are let’s see if they make the same rage. Let’s remember this podcast episode, because I’m interested to see how big it got. Because saying Kyle wasn’t happy about that is the most obvious thing in the whole world. Is Daniel gonna rage on him or not? Because Jesse is a man, right, right? And Kyle yells at women, and Jesse is the future. And I think that somewhere in his mind, he has to understand that at the end of the day, if he goes in on Wes and Jesse, which I think at some point he will, because he won’t be able to help himself, his jealousy will get the best of him. He will do something, if not, rage at them, something back door underhanded, where they’re like, fuck you. And if Bravo has to pick between the future and the past, they’re going to pick the future. Yeah, I know that’s what it is. I do want to just say, I just said it. We’ve heard Hannah say it. Kyle yells at women. I think Hannah, at this point hot. I think part of the reason that she never said she didn’t say she was real quiet for a real long time about the end of summer house, and really didn’t talk about any of them. And then she came out in the fall. I think it was she was out in the by owl files, yeah, and she made it sound like she implied that Kyle cheats on Amanda, and I believe her, and I’m sure she’s got receipts. And I think at this point, Kyle can’t do anything to fuck with her success, right? And she doesn’t really have much to lose now, and so I don’t know. I think that. I think it’s because she has the platform now that she’s beyond Kyle being able to ruin her. I think she had a real fear that if she stayed quiet, he would leave her alone, and he did. I also want to point out he calls Craig a liar. I also want to point out that in real time we see that we know when this.
Happened in the summer, right absolutely lines up with when her net when Hannah’s Netflix special was announced, came out. I forget which one and Kyle. It’s funny. Somebody it may have been face reality posted a screenshot of Kyle congratulating her, and a screenshot of when these tech rage texts would have gone and they were within the same couple of weeks, Mr. Two Face is congratulating her publicly for all her success and slamming her behind and even on Watch What Happens Live last night. He’s Oh, Hannah’s crushing it. I’m so happy for her. No, you’re not, and I don’t think he has the capacity to be happy for her. And a cocktail gave me a perspective, which I think fits Amanda regarding Hannah. Yes, Kyle shouldn’t have texted Paige, but two people she’s close to, especially Hannah, were saying he was cheating on Amanda up until their wedding day, and that he got her fired. Even in this episode, Paige that says that he wouldn’t make up with Hannah at the reunion, and implying that’s why Hannah was fired, just because he doesn’t make up with her doesn’t mean he has control to have her fired. I absolutely have zero behind the scenes information, but Hannah lit the flame on this, and Kyle’s being bashed for responding. He’s wrong for rage texting Paige, but he also has a better relationship with Paige, and I think that’s why he felt he could text her. I feel like no one is acknowledging what was said that made him upset. I will say, I think he somehow wanted Paige to pick a side, which is insane, because beyond the fact that Hannah is her best friend, Mr. Businessman should realize at the end of the day, Paige is going to and should ride with her business, which is giggly squad. Is he insane that he thinks she’s not? If anything, he’s lucky she doesn’t side with Hannah harder, Mr. Businessman, if you’re so if you are so virtuous, and there is nothing to all of this cheating stuff, then why are we continuing to get proceeds as a gossip site of him being out until six in the morning at these DJ events. I just think he’s a DJ Amanda. He decided last summer he was a DJ most like married 43 or three year old men. Do they start DJing careers at colleges and stay out to all hours? Yeah, cut it off at 2am
Why would we continue to behave in this way. If it is, we’re so far off on all of these rumors. I just, I don’t think I feel like if there was, if these were completely made up, then he would be buttoning his shit up, just like we’ve seen Craig. And I’m not sorry. I’m not implying that Craig did anything wrong. I’m just saying Craig was a party boy, and it is documented that he his drinking caused two situations, one of which is being like wild. And I don’t know if he was thrown out of Amanda and Kyle’s wedding or, like, just acted a little bit too buffoonish, but the bottom line is, what did he do when that happened? Buttoned it up. Buttoned it up. And he has, I don’t think he said he’s sober, but he said he doesn’t drink hard liquor. He tries to not drink as often, etc. So, right? And that’s what you do when you’re a mature person, and that the way that you have acted in the past. It hurting other people or affecting your image or possibly hurting your business. And why does he keep blaming everybody else? Paige and this situation has almost shredded my marriage or gutted my marriage, it’s then stop acting like a buffoon and cursing out your wife’s friends, because there are some people who cannot take accountability. We’ve seen it over and over again because I think most people are umbrella you know, when you use the right wire. But I don’t know if you’ve ever had this, but if you have a good friend but you don’t like their husband, yeah, I think that’s where Paige is. She tolerates Kyle because she likes Amanda, and I think probably also partially to keep peace on the show. But I don’t feel like even Amanda is a good enough friend of Paige’s that she feels the need to do more than that meeting. I don’t think Paige feels like she needs to put time into working things out with Kyle. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. It’s Oral Care Month, which means you can earn four times points on all your favorite oral care brands now through July 15, shop in store or online for items like Colgate toothpaste, Listerine, mouthwash, crest mouthwash or toothpaste, Sensodyne toothpaste, hello, toothpaste or G, U, M, flossers and earn four times points. Points can be redeemed for future discounts on gas or groceries. Offer ends July 15. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com for more details. If you want to feel more connected to humanity and a little less alone. Listen to beautiful anonymous each week I take a phone call from one random, anonymous human being. There’s over 400 episodes in our back catalog. You get to feel connected to all these different people all over the world. Recent episodes include one where a lady survived a murder attempt by her own son.
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But here’s the thing, I don’t necessarily blame Paige, because Amanda can cry and be mad at him, but ultimately she married somebody who she has seen be so mean spirited. She saw what he did to Hannah. She stopped being friends with Hannah. Not only it does he do this to women, but it’s to her friends. I have to say to myself, if she’s so nice, which she appears to be, he isn’t. She’s a victim in it too, but it’s also he isn’t. Only he’s hurting Amanda, like right her this episode, she was so upset, and does he care about that? We saw it with Brittany and Jax, and we saw how that ended. I just last night when Paige said, How much, how much grace would Craig get if Craig attacked Amanda for doing a brand deal with her and home? Imagine if Amanda signed on with a home goods company selling blankets and pillows, and Craig came and on television screamed and yelled at her. Could you imagine? No, of course not. But Kyle, for some reason, continues to get away with this exactly, and Paige isn’t even the one who signed the deal like you’re yelling. I know again. Why is Kyle mad at I’ll tell you why. Because Kyle thinks that Paige should say to Hannah, don’t ever speak about Kyle, or I’ll be pissed at you. And Kyle thinks that Paige should have said to Craig, don’t you dare do that. Deal with spritz. That’s why he’s mad. He thinks that, since Paige has a strong She’s a strong woman and she’s got a strong personality, his expectation is that she will ride for him and tell those people not to fuck with him. Yeah, that’s the reality. He’s glad that Paige didn’t stop them. Man has asked you many times to not stay out until five in the morning. And how well has that worked out? You don’t he doesn’t do it like Well, here’s a way, even if Paige did say that to Hannah and to Craig. That doesn’t mean that they still wouldn’t do what they want to do anyway, of course not, but, and we didn’t hear Paige say, Oh, I asked them not to, because, guess what, she didn’t ask them not to, because it’s she doesn’t care, because it’s not a fake business. And more to the point, I’m sure Paige was like, good for you with the spritz deal, which, by the way, it wasn’t just an advertisement, as it’s being presented on summer house, like he has part ownership in an investment in a sports company, and so what? And guess what? Wes and Jesse are going to have all sorts of these opportunities as well. There’s plenty of room for success right at the top for everybody, like there’s just because one person successful doesn’t mean you can’t be two. That is just false logic. It’s interesting that you brought up Brittany, because I know I’ve said it so many times here on this podcast, but I’ve also said this in my real life. Like, sometimes you just don’t know how talk. Actually, Melissa Gorga has has said something similar to, as I’m thinking this, like, sometimes you just don’t know how toxic this air is until you get out of a situation and you finally get a breath of fresh air, meaning, like, yeah, you until you can get out of something and see it, you just, you get used to it, right? You get used to the toxicity. And I think, you know, Brittany put up with Jax is asshole, rages and generally shitty behavior for years and years. I’m not saying it’s the same brand of toxic, but I do not when I look at Kyle and Amanda, I do not see a completely healthy relationship. I see so much anger in that man, 100% I think what it is, I think Kyle has really big goals he wants to hit, and he’s falling short of them, and he’s blaming everyone around him. And I will tell you who I don’t envy. Poor Carl. I truly don’t envy his position, because he is a good friend, God bless him, and he’s just watching him spiral, and him and Amanda are just looking at each other, and it’s the three of them have this toxic relationship, really, because it’s, I can picture the conversations between Carl and Amanda, where Amanda’s okay, I spoke with him. So if, when you talk to him, if you can just reinforce that he shouldn’t say anything else to Paige. He should let it go. Don’t publicly speak about Craig and Carl being like, yeah, absolutely, he’s got to stop doing that. He’s going to make this situation worse, and they’re not gonna say this on camera, but we really don’t wanna piss Paige off. Paige is a very influential, loved figure in our Bravo sphere, and if she turns on us and Craig completely, we know that they’re broken up now, but like that’s gonna be bad for us and bad for lover boy. So we gotta calm down the angry little elf. Like, really. Like, I feel bad for them. I agree. I know I can actually, it’s funny as you’re being
and the thing about it is this, of course, everybody has good qualities. Everybody has bad qualities. Kyle does have good qualities. Kyle is good at bringing out.
Everybody together, and he has good leadership qualities. Those same qualities, though, can become controlling and all of those things. So I really think he needs therapy. I think he needs therapy. I think he needs to calm down. I get the sense that he’s not a person who ever enjoys his success is always on to the next thing, and he wants bigger, and he wants even if he sold lover boy for a great dollar amount, he there would be a void that he’d need to fill. And if the next business wasn’t successful, like Amanda is waiting, and we’ve heard her say it like she’s waiting for this point where he’s happy and content. And I have bad news for her. That’s not who he is. Hey, and by the way, he just added on this whole DJ persona and life where talk about the worst kind of time demand needed on somebody if you’re trying to start a family,
that now he has a built in excuse to be out until four in the morning all the time. Yeah, so let’s move on to Beverly Hills, so you texted me saying, we have to discuss this on the pod. Why do we think that Kathy Hilton said that Mauricio? I’m pretty sure, actually, she called him Maurice, which was hilarious. She always does know isn’t in a position financially to pay anyone off. So here’s the thing, I had some time to really process this, and I think she was actually being sarcastic, and we know he couldn’t pay anyone off, because guys, she he has tons of money, okay, even if it’s not liquid, even if it’s not whatever, if he’s banging a random 32 year old model, he could afford 50k to shut her up. I think there is a bigger message, of course, that Sutton gets at and Garcelle and which is, can he not actually afford to divorce Kyle, which is a totally separate thing, but I think that Kathy meant that kind of like a silent hit at him. Oh, divorce. He couldn’t afford to pay anyone, and he just chose not to. I see that’s interesting, right? Because, yeah, we have been speculating on
why Kyla Mauricio announced in July 2023
that they were getting separated. But then clarified, oh no, we never said divorce, because we know that a lot of his wealth is their wealth is tied up in the business. And as long as it continues to be successful, and Kyle and her daughters are all benefiting from it too, I think I that that actually makes I do love I Kathy has the best brand of shade. Kyle was married to Mauricio for 27 years, and she calls her Maurice, which is demeaning. It’s her way of demeaning him. It is, it is like saying, like you’re regular. I’m not calling you Mauricio, you’re just a regular Maurice. You’re Maurice. Yeah. So Sutton and Garcelle, have a sit down, and Sutton says, straight up, I think Kyle has a pipe dream that they’re going to get back together, and now she can obviously see that’s not happening. She needs to hire an attorney. So, you know, a cocktail pointed out an attorney cocktail. Or might I add that perhaps behind the scenes, they are slowly dividing assets, liquidating stuff, and doing in a way that helps them tax wise, because they’re cordial, they’re amicable, right? So it would make sense for them to do this the smartest way and not the hasty way. This isn’t a Let’s burn it all down divorce to make sure everything’s legit and on the up and up, and you don’t want to get hit with the most amount of taxes and all those sorts of legal, complicated stuff that I’m in no way an expert about. He’s moved on with several people. She’s always at Morgan’s concerts. We do see a sadness, but I don’t think Kyle really believes they’ll ever get back together. And she finally has stated, like, if it’s gonna stay like this, obviously we have to get divorced. So do I think at some point she would have liked to get back together? Yes. Do I believe that she thinks that’s a realistic option? No, and I hope that our attorney friend that said this to us that she’s working out a way to separate assets and get out with what she’s owed and entitled to to preserve their wealth. As a family, they have four girls together. Who knows what the forensic attorney is going to find and what they’re going to have to smooth out. But I would hope that behind the scenes that’s happening, and it would make sense for her not to blab about that. Yeah, yeah. I if that is the case and they’re quietly doing this, that would make sense. I gotta tell you, I go back and forth on Kyle and was this relationship with Morgan a was this more than a friendship? And does she feel like she wants to get back with Mauricio? Because I see things that make me feel like she did, and then it’s confusing. Is she, I know she’s an actress. So are we just? Is she just acting? Two things might be true. I think it could be something that she hoped would be.
But I think she can also live in reality, and know that’s not going to happen. And so she’s going to do it in the smart way, which is to privately, slowly sort things out. The agency is a franchise, so he doesn’t actually own every single one, but he does make a lot of money in real estate. They own a lot of properties whose names on what, like, all of these sort of things, right, right? And how it impacts their girls, and maybe setting up trust for the girls. And I would imagine those things take time. And I would also actually imagine that Real Housewives of Beverly, I was explaining this actually watching to my husband, how when we first started watching Beverly Hills, so many years ago that Mauricio actually worked for Kathy Hilton’s husband’s company, and that He then started the agency, which caused some issues between Kathy and Kyle, and that we’ve seen the agency grow to this I know it was named one of the fastest growing companies in real estate, and has been, and It’s a real success, and I think they are all probably worried about how, whether that would continue to be the case if things are ugly on camera, and if we start to completely turn on Mauricio, and that would affect the whole family. So yes, yes, this series actually makes a lot of that makes a lot of sense to me. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save some cash? Progressive makes it easy to see if you could save when you bundle your home and auto policies. Try it@progressive.com
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Yeah, this is these things. It’s complicated. Our cocktails are smart. They really are much. And then Bose, this week was did an interview with Bryce sander, and he asked her if she agreed with the fans who say that she needed a buoy, so to speak, well, and did that dorit needed a Oh, yeah, that dorit needed a buoy, and that her friendship with dorit was a way for dorit to have an ally. I really like bozes response, because she said, You know what, when you put it that way, it likely was, and what’s wrong with that? She was in a vulnerable place. She needed somebody to lean on, but we genuinely clicked. So maybe it was born from that, but it’s I love when she said this, but it’s not like when she got to dry land, she tossed me like a buoy. I thought it was a good way to put it. I thought it was interesting. I also I was at this episode or last because I don’t think we spoke about it when the fertility specialist came to her house to test her. I just have to tell you my personal reaction to it. And it’s funny because you and I said like when we watch stuff like you feel it like when she shared about how complicated so she was pregnant before her daughter and her first pregnancy ended. I think I want to say 20 something weeks as a result of proclaimsia and other complications, and then with her teenage daughter, she had the same complications, but thank God, she was able to successfully carry her baby to term. It makes me so nervous that she’s talking about it, and I know it’s none of my business, guys, but I just keep thinking, you’re rich, you live in Hollywood. Can we do a surrogate? And I get that. She wants that experience, but it makes me so sad, because I love her now, and I’m like, No, you could be like, and I’m sure her family around her is saying that, right? I agree. I love her. I don’t want to see this going I don’t really think that. I don’t believe that she is truly looking at having this baby herself. I hope not. I’m skeptical about her reaction to seemingly not knowing that your chances of having a viable egg get lower and lower and that lower after the age of 4045,
etc. She’s smart. She knows that. I don’t I think that was a little bit of playing.
And the camera, but I do understand the desire to have another baby and maybe she’s just not ready. That’s great. And I think it’s okay. I think that’s great. I just if it were you, I would be like, please do a route that doesn’t include you putting your health at risk. That’s just how I feel as I’m watching her. That’s what I want. If she were standing in front of me, if I met her or meet her at bravocon, I will very inappropriately tell her that I will be like, Listen, I love you. There’s so many different ways we could do this. She’ll be like, Girl, bye. I know completely I love it. Major gear shift we’re about to do. Yeah, this is I should off, because I actually was gonna text you and be like, help explain this to me. I’m like, No, I’m gonna put on my podcasting pants and look into this, because I was really confused about how all of this whole situation played out. And I am like, I think some of the cocktails might be too. So I want to break down, you know, what we had in the post. But then some of the stuff that we all know that they are currently filming a new version of Shaw’s with MJ Reza and Gigi. We also know that a few months ago, Gigi, we talked about it on the pod, she got married to some guy. I looked up his name because it helped me understand who the players are. The guy’s name is Dennis DeSantis. But very quickly after the marriage, it was very quickly annulled. She had been friends with Dennis DeSantis, apparently for a while, around in the same time or prior to that she had Gigi had also formed a relationship friendship with Paulina, who used to be engaged to Mike from Shaw’s right after Gigi had the Marriage, an old Paulina started dating the guy that P that Gigi married and then annulled. And then we saw paulita traveling with him, and within a few weeks, she posted a picture that they were engaged. Good sentences. The other thing we’ll talk about this because I was like, Where is Jesse James? I was so confused about where he was in that. But we’ll, we’ll go into that because we have some more information that we actually added into this post so that everybody kind of understands. So here’s why don’t you read what the Post said? Okay, so this was the post. So some of it is what Amanda just explained. What in the Shaw’s mess? Gigi, from Shaw’s had a quickie marriage to Dennis DeSantis, and it has been annulled. Like guys, they annulled it within days. Gigi is ex. Dennis DeSantis is now seeing Mike. So who? So he’d ex Paulina. Paulina was embraced by Gigi. Post split from Mike, and she ended up dating Gigi X within days of their annulment, obviously, Gigi and Paulina are no longer friends. Paulina is wearing an engagement ring. Okay? Follow along here as we break it down. Gigi announced she was married to some guy. That guy Gigi now ex husband is named Dennis DeSantis. Dennis was married to Jesse James. Jesse James is the heavily tattooed ex husband of Sandra Bullock who, like, cheated on Sandra Bullock with a lot of different people. So Dennis was married to Bonnie rotten.
What a name who was a former porn star. So Bonnie was married to Jesse James. She divorced Jesse James at some point and married Dennis DeSantis. Dennis DeSantis briefly married Gigi. They got that annulled. Paulina, who was good friends with Gigi, decided to date him and get engaged to him, Jesse James and Bonnie rotten announced, oh, she’s married to Jesse James. So she married, so she was currently married to Jesse James. What Right? Like? More recently, she was married to Dennis before, and they announced around the same time that they were splitting. I think we need like, a chart, yes. So now Paulina has come out and said that Gigi approached her at the mall, the soldiers happened this week, grabbed her out of the store, was threatening towards her. Paulina went for a restraining order, guys. Now, is it possible that Gigi is very aggressive? Of course it is. We’ve seen her on the show, but my initial thought was, Paulina loved the spotlight. She was with on the show via bike. Could she be angling for a spot on the show? Now, the thing about that is, I could see the draw for production wanting to get her on the show. She’s dating. Gigi is annulled ex husband, but I don’t think they’re going to want to deal with the restraining order piece and all the legal stuff. So if she was angling for a spot on the show, I don’t think she would go the legal route. I think it’s more likely that she’s trying to get Gigi off the show.
Go to sabotage Gigi. The third option is that Gigi is scaring her, so she went for a restraining order, which is not a good look for Gigi, because, girl, you finally getting your show back, and now you’re gonna go and do this, and they don’t need another Bravo celebrity going to jail. I think you can scare people with words. And Paulina said, she said, I’m gonna fuck you up, essentially, is what Gigi was saying to her. And somebody comes, finds you in a mall, pulls you out of a store, screams at you, says they’re gonna fuck you up. At what point is, are you scared enough that you feel like you need a restraining order? And if you maybe, if you know the person well enough to know that they’re not serious, then, you know, maybe you don’t, but that’s the thing that JG said that to me, I’d be pretty scared, because she does have a knife collection, and we’ve seen her fuck people up. Yeah, and like, words can be just as scary, and like threatening people is against the law, and it sounds like she was physically in her face and everything. I don’t know. I don’t know if, maybe it’s a little bit this did happen. Paulina is in, is worried, and she is angling there. There’s a lot of gray area. I think that this could be in. I think Gigi seems like a loose cannon Gigi, because she came out and said the whole reason she got married to this Dennis DeSantis guy was to prove that she was still in love with some other guy named BJ. I have no idea who BJ is, but this is what she said. And she was like, and then I realized it was a big mistake immediately, and that I love BJ. Okay, how high were you this? This all sounds like really wise decision making to me, let’s get married in Vegas. I don’t know. I think I would need some more details to make a definitive verdict on this, but I do think girl code says, Oh, you probably shouldn’t be dating somebody who is your friend, but maybe if she and Gigi and Paulina weren’t as good of friends, that there’s some gray area there. Listen, Pauline is wrong for dating this guy, whether or not whatever Gigi loves BJ or not, she was obviously involved with this guy. Yeah, perhaps she should have taken a beat if she wanted to date him. They literally got annulled and days later. But this is why the shawls need to be back on our television, because they just have so much drama. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. It’s Oral Care Month, which means you can earn four times points on all your favorite oral care brands now through July 15, shop in store or online for items like Colgate toothpaste, Listerine, mouthwash, crest mouthwash, or toothpaste. Sensodyne toothpaste. Hello, toothpaste or G, U, M, flossers and earn four times points. Points can be redeemed for future discounts on gas or groceries. Offer ends July 15. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com. For more details, get fresh summer savings with digital coupons at Vons and Albertsons. This week, at Vons and Albertsons, get medium ripe pass avocados for just 88 cents each with digital coupon, plus get Northwest grown large cherries for $1.99 per pound with digital coupon. Also this week at Vons and Albertsons, get 19 ounce Johnsonville grilling sausage, 14 to 15 ounce ballpark beef franks, or 11 to 12 ounce Nathan’s beef franks for 399 each with digital coupon limit four. Visit Vons or albertsons.com for more details.
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didn’t touch on southern hospitality, because tonight we get both the final episode and the reunion, which, bravo. We need a real reunion next year. None of this watch what happens live studio. Yeah. Why are they shoving them all into there? Because they can’t spend the money on I guess it’s because then they have to do like a whole soundstage and decorations. And that’s they’ve earned it. I agree. We do have some exclusive cocktail tea will Emmys loser boyfriend was in the building for the reunion, but would not come on stage and film. So everyone’s saying he quit. And A source told me you could say he quit, but Bravo. Was also like, Oh, you don’t, you’re here and you’re not going to come on stage, all right, you’re out. So it was a juicy reunion behind the scenes. There was a situation that production had to get involved with. I am not at liberty to say anything beyond that, and I don’t want to piss off my sources. I can’t confirm anything one way or the other, but it’ll.
Get out because these I was just gonna say, is it something we’ll eventually find out? I think so. So book note that I’m excited, guys, it’s Thursday traitors, and then the traitors reunion, which I’m like, a little I wish they spread it out, because I’ll watch both, and then next week. But like, do I know? I know? I’m really sad. Oh, Denise Richards show. Did you watch it? Amanda, I watch most of it, and then started falling asleep. Not because it was boring. I actually thought it was really good. I loved it. I have to tell you guys what my husband said. I’m like, because I’m like, he’s that’s a weird choice of car and like we’re, it is. It’s like a six, seven year old, like Corvette, but it’s a manual transmission, which is a badass. Excuse me, whose car Denise’s when she’s driving around with Camille, yes, okay, that car, because I also thought it was an odd choice of car. She’s got three golden retrievers, and she puts them in the back of a big body bends girl. You need a Yukon or a escalator. You need a big car with three big dogs. Yeah, you don’t need, like, a big body bends. I like four doors, if you guys don’t know big body bends, is that a New York thing, or is that? I think that’s a New York thing. A big body bends is, like the big four door, like the S class Mercedes that rich people drive, but it’s a sedan. So you have these three thing, and I think they put a sheet on the back like it’s $200,000
car. Get them out of it immediately. I know. And what about her renting three townhouses because Aaron, her husband’s parents came to visit and never left three years ago and are living in their home. We know enough about Denise to know that she is a more the merrier kind of person, including inviting her ex husband’s hooker to come in for Thanksgiving, and her ex husband’s wife, Brooke, was at the barbecue that they had, and back in the day, I don’t know if you remember this, when those Boys were toddlers and Denise’s girls were little too Brooke was in rehab because she was smoking crack or some serious drama that was crack or heroin, and Charlie was unfit. So Denise was raising those little boys, and it obviously seems that Brooke, Charlie’s, now ex wife, mother of two little boys that they had together, seems to be perfectly healthy and sober, good for her and their friends. They were, like, hanging So, yeah, which, I think it says a lot of buzz and ease. It’s funny because I’m watching this and I’m like, wow, it our world as far like, I mean, this was what I used to buy US Weekly, and yes, every week to get I used. I loved the tablets, and Brooke Mueller, she was all over him for years and years. So she sure talk about full circle. I do have to say, I think we were able to see a little bit of it, but I never realized how funny Denise is funny she is funny. She’s very like dry, but a little self deprecating, but very funny. It also speaks to how well like she is, and what a nice person she is because of her connections to like Brooke, and still able to have a relationship with Charlie. And we see in upcoming she had Camille On this episode, she’s gonna have Tori Spelling. And then they call Patrick Muldoon, who I don’t know, if you know who he is. I my mom. I grew up watching Days of Our Lives. So Patrick Muldoon was a stud back in the day, and they both dated him, and so they was he on days. Do you remember? Oh, God, because I know who he is, but I give him like I can’t remember who he played. I know he’s been on a lot of Hallmark movies, and that’s probably what I remember him from. I don’t mean to put him off and or the last teller will tell us they’re screaming at the radio. We’re not on radio, but if we were, they’d be screaming at it. Yeah, I don’t know, but we Sutton come buddy comes out for her. But that also speaks to the fact that she’s a cool girl. Is she kooky? Yes, she’s Nene cuckoo, especially like when she was with her daughters, I wanted to be like, Stop, you’re like, she’s but she’s just, she’s like, a flower child, yeah, like a hippie, like a carefree it’ll work itself out. Whatever everybody in the car, oh my, oh the hooker that my ex husband’s dating is here, perfect. Oh, your new wife that you cheated on me with and we got divorced because of is addicted to smack, and I need to raise your twin sons, no problem. Hey, let’s do it all right, hold on. I’m looking at Patrick Muldoon on days of our lives. Let me see, oh God, who does it say he was? Yeah, this is not that easy to Google. It doesn’t say who his character was. Damn. Come on. Oh, my God, he was on Melrose Place as well. Austin Reed. Austin duh. He was Austin Reed from 92 to 90, two to 90 and then from 2011 to 2012 I wasn’t watching in 2011 at that point, but in 92 to 95 I was very much in middle school, and very much my mother had it on in the kitchen on that little TV. Oh, my God, I used to tape it, and I would watch it in my sorority, at my sorority.
With my friends. Every so cute. Yeah, he is, oh. He was also unsaved by the bell. I think he dated Kelly Lipinski, who was, what’s her face? Why is my brain not working today? Kelly, Tiffany amberthy, yes. Tiffy, jeez, I’m just going to tell you. Listen, you guys, you’re gonna we need our archive the night.
Archivist, of course, Austin and Carrie. Remember Carrie so pretty? Yeah, you know what’s crazy about soap stars, by the way. Tell me, even before Botox and everything, they always looked beautiful and young. And my mother would say, my mother had a whole theory, okay, she would say to me that the best soap stars were plain looking because it was all about the makeup. I’m like, what I have to say? I disagree. I think the best soap stars, like, it’s all about their bone structure, and even as they get older, they keep that bone structure like Deirdre Hall, yeah. I mean, that woman is ageless, and I’m sure now she’s had work done. But who knows, though, in Hollywood, maybe they were getting Botox in 99 Marlena. Marlena, do you know my confirmation name is Hope? Oh, so it was a whole thing. All right, last thing, then we’re gonna wrap up. So I was like, I want my confirmation name to be hope. And so if you’re not Catholic, when you’re in by me, it was eighth grade, but it’s like, sometime around the age of, like, 12 to 15, you make confirmation, which is a sacrament, so it’s baptism, communion, confirmation, and then if you get married, marriage. Okay? So I go, and I’m like, I want my confirmation name to be hope, my mom’s. That’s great, but that’s not a saint, so you can’t and I was right, but it’s a virtue. So I convinced my two friends, and we were joy, faith and hope. And I I I went to sister, and I was like, sister, here’s the deal. I think it would be really nice if we always carried this together, that we picked a virtue, that all went together, joy, faith and hope. I wrote this whole she made me write this whole thing about why it was important, and I submitted it and it was approved. If there’s ever been any doubt that right now you are doing exactly what you should be doing. All I needed to hear was that story, and this is in your blood lady, right? I’m a natural negotiator and I and it’s so funny now I’m thinking of it, because if that were my kid, I would be like, What are you nuts? Just pick a saint, which is what I told my kids. Because we our kids, my kids were confirmed earlier, and so that I’m like, I don’t care. Just pick somebody. Just pick a name. You like, yeah, Pick it. Pick a name. And one of my kids picked a name that was part of his name already. I’m like, great. That makes things easier. I’ll never forget who yours is. That’s great. I love it. Thank you guys, guys. We love you. Till next time Bye.