144. B got cut off in Nashville! Disgruntled ex speaks out; We love a “cameras back up” moment; Show us your V (vulnerability)

B got cut off in Nashville. But not the way you might think, lol. We had some interesting DMs and Cocktailer messages from an alleged ex-boyfriend of Molly from Southern Charm…and the drama ensued from there. And we have an exclusive – what show just had a “cameras back up” moment? Salt Lake City Reunion – does Bronwyn have an interesting relationship with the truth? Why did we all take a whole new stance on Mary this season? In one word, vulnerability. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills continues to have us seated. Even with Boz’s boyfriend’s questionable fashion choices. And, we say goodbye to RHONYC along with some of the cast – we’ve got tea about that. 

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tape. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from bravococktails.com and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I’m Bea and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tea.
What’s up? Cocktailers. Amanda, hi. Cocktailers, hi. B How was Nashville? Oh, my God, I had never been as I told you guys last week, you guys sent me really cool recommendations. It was so much fun. It’s, oh, I’m dropping my mic. It’s like Vegas, right? But you can’t do more than a couple days. Yeah, for sure. I guess you’re not partying. You can, but yeah, we flew in Thursday night. Had dinner at the hotel. We stayed at the Omni, which was great location. Yeah, nice hotel. I stayed there when I was on a girls trip too. It is, it’s perfect. It was really, it was great. They had live music at the restaurant there, very cool. Woke up the next day. We know what happened when I woke up the next day for oh, there we go. We got all that intel from the southern charm disgruntled boyfriend, so that he had very good timing, though, that came in. I got in the shower first, and then, yeah, my friend had a shower and get ready. And I was like, All right, I’ll take care of this. It was awesome. We went to, okay, you guys asked me I loved Jelly Rolls bar and big bar. I think it’s fairly new. And then I loved, oh god. I took pictures of them. I’ll post it for you guys. And then there was, like, this smaller one we kept going back to, and then the last night we found, just like the best live band, and it’s hard to measure, because it’s always about the vibe. And like, when you’re with your friends and having an awesome time, Teddy’s tavern was super cool. It actually, it wasn’t nice looking at all, which is funny, like, some of the bars are, like, really fancy and new, and then other bars are holes in the walls. And of course, the best bands are at the holes in the walls. Oh, for sure. That’s so fun. Okay, I just wrote that down because we’re heading I went to 1230 Justin Timberlake. That’s the picture of the as.
Restaurant martinis. You guys saw, I don’t listen. It was fun for a girls dinner, right? If you’re with a group of girls, it’s definitely a scene. The food was whatever Hampton social for brunch was awesome, and it’s absolutely gorgeous inside. And the cocktails were like the prettiest cocktails I’ve ever seen. It was definitely like a Hamptons Miami Beach vibe in Nashville. So I would absolutely recommend going there. 1230 is it’s fine. But if you’re like a couple on vacation, like if you went with your husband, or I went with mine, it’s not where I would go. Yeah, if you’re in a big group, it’s cool, okay, but yeah, it looks like you guys had an absolute blast. Did you get some boots? Okay, I don’t know how to tell you this I was denied buying boots. Oh, by whom? The person who owned the shop told me that they felt that I would make a better decision in the morning.
It’s so funny to rewind we got to the first spot, which we started at Jon Bon Jovi’s at 11am we ate. We started drinking about, you’re not cut off from shopping. About midday,
all of my friends were like, Let’s go back to the hotel. Let’s lay down for a half an hour, shower, recharge. I said, Absolutely not. I’m here for a couple of days. No, my sister in law and my friend were like, we’ll stay with her. Hence. Right before dinner, I walked into a boot shop, and the lovely man, very nicely, told me he will see me tomorrow. I was too embarrassed to go back. Obviously, that is apparently, they must have been very expensive. I don’t remember, but he was like, this is a big purchase. Come back tomorrow and see if you’re still into it. But I guess that must be a thing in Nashville. Yeah, you buy boots, or if you don’t have them, it’s a great place to buy them, because there’s a lot of great stores. No, do no. It’s a thing to cut people off from buying them if they’re inebriated. Oh, did. I was standing up. I wasn’t like,
that is really funny. Listen, I don’t have much. Back to what was it your Friday morning, which Thank you very much for taking time out of your trip to share the tea. Because always that’s when the disgruntled ex boyfriend decided to pop into your DMS, for those of you guys who are either not cocktail ers or who are not cut up, a guy who claims that Molly, so Molly, who plays the is it the tuba that she Yes, she plays the tuba from from southern charm. He claims that she cheated on him while filming, and that they were still dating, that she was pretending to be single, and that he just found out. So this is what the DM said you want, the actual truth about who Molly O’Connell is from southern charm, not rumors, firsthand fact, and yes, I can prove it many times over, I’m the guy she’s been dating for the past three years. The entire season 10 filming, we were together. The Shep bullshit is new to me. She cheated on me with him at the end of filming. Not sure anyone else on the show even knows they will by the end of today, though, stay tuned.
And then it says, Oh, also, she hasn’t touched an instrument since the filming. She stopped playing with the band because she’s just lazy.
What an asshole. Seriously, they gave her a chance, and she just quit. I understand more than anyone how amazing she comes off on camera and even in person, that’s the tip of the iceberg. By the way, look on my profile and he gives his actual profile, yes, down a ways in like 2021 2022 you’ll see a picture of us together. We’ve been seeing each other three months before that, until last night, I finally got her to admit to cheating with Shep. She wouldn’t even have said anything except the cutting leading up is on camera. They made out on camera will be in a future episode, and that night, he went to her house. She swears nothing happened ever again. But who knows? I’m not sure that anyone else on the show even knows that they screwed, but they will by days ahead,
guys and cocktails know this man went so far as to become a cocktailer. I don’t know if he was previously subscribing. He may have been once again, proving my theory that straight men don’t aren’t cocktails, which I was proven wrong a million times over, and I apologize again for that. We love you guys, but he became a cocktail. Er, listen, it was a fun mess. I immediately prefaced it by saying, We love Molly. This guy sounds like a jilted ex, but who am I to not share this absolute spiral that this guy is having? Who knows what the truth is you’re telling?
You’re dating for three years, and I could scroll to two and a half years ago and see one picture of you guys together, dude, it was unhinged. I love the cocktails. Got ’em. They were all like, We’re Team Molly. Who is this guy? Get him out of cocktail party she filmed as single. So the whole thing doesn’t add up. If you were, in fact, in a serious relationship, I doubt she would be okay with filming single if she was happily involved with you, sir. So maybe you thought you were dating and maybe you were paying for things, and who is she to stop you? But I do know that I don’t love the idea of Shep for her, he is Peter Pan. You know what the thing is, and maybe more so this season. But it’s not that I dislike Shep, because I do like Shep like I think Shep is a good friend and but I don’t understand why women would want to date him, because if the last 15 smart, beautiful, kind women he’s been with haven’t changed him, like, you’re not going to, maybe I’m just like, a reality based person, where I’m like, Okay, I’m not gonna change him. His track record speaks for itself, right? But I think a lot of women are like, No, I’m gonna be the one. I’m gonna be the one to come in and and I think that some of that is youth, and he dates young people, and I think, okay, and I have an interesting point to make. Amanda, oh, sure, please. I don’t think that Shep only dates young women because, oh, young women are hot. Because I very much disagree. I think that women of a certain age, women in their 30s, women in their 40s, women in their 50s and on, are hot. There is nobody that can tell me that there isn’t a beautiful woman Shep’s age, that he wouldn’t be like, Wow, damn. I actually know that to be true, because Dorinda now she’s had a flirty thing with him. But here’s what women his age or older won’t do. They won’t be fooled by his bullshit. Because we’ve been there with a young woman who has less experience dating when you’re in your mid 20s, you’ve dated in high school, you’ve dated in college, and now you meet someone who’s a real adult. And I completely agree, our our BS meters get way better, and our tolerance for BS comes way lower. Yes, no, and it’s just not that really. It’s just not that cute for a guy who’s What is he 45 for a 45 year old man to be staying out until two o’clock in the morning on weeknights and many nights in a week, like beautiful, clueless women of a certain age, I will cite Brittany from Salt Lake City, have no trouble finding fuck boys, and the reason they have no trouble is because their bullshit meter is off. Yeah, I would have added Jen pedantry into that with Ryan, but I have to tell you they seem happy and we haven’t heard anything nefarious or that he’s cheated, so maybe he’s a reformed F boy or whatever. But when I first met her and him, I would have put her in that category. There are older women who never change their ways. They just always love Peter Pan. Yeah, yeah, that’s true. I guess I’d be remiss without saying guys, obviously nobody else is reporting on this, because this is something that happened within cocktail party. Should I read the email that we just got this morning? Yes, okay. It says from Charleston, local subject, Mike, who? Because the guy says his name is Mike in we just didn’t read that part just now. It says, I usually don’t comment on Charleston gossip because there’s so much of it, but I have to speak up on this. I saw the post where Mike claimed he was bamboozled by Molly and I have to call BS around the same time last year, right before or even during the filming of the show, that man was sending me multiple likes on hinge. I recently became single again, and sure enough, he sent me another one that night, when I saw his picture in the article I was or the post, I was shocked that was the guy. Maybe they had a relationship, but this just seems like a desperate attempt stretch the truth for five seconds of fame. From everything I’ve heard, Molly is a genuinely kind person, and I’m so tired of these Peter Pan types acting like victims when strong women in Charleston move on. So initially I thought that this was a guy who was really into Molly and was sad that it wasn’t reciprocated, but after this email, it’s possible that is the case, but it’s also possible that he’s trying to get on the show, and what better way than to become a cocktail and once again, guys, those of you really on this, on the website in general, a lot is happening in the comments, but this is a perfect example of that, Like there, he even commented on one of the posts. Like, it’s been very entertaining in there this last week. Oh, we didn’t mention our newsletter. Yes, we, Amanda made us a really kick ass freaking newsletter, guys. Yay. And Tracy helped. And.
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So I loved Bronwyn this season. I do feel that the reunion is really showing that she has an interesting relationship with the truth. First, we have the jewelry, which it was not cool of the jeweler to share with Lisa Barlow that Bronwyn didn’t buy anything at the reunion. Bronwyn did say, Oh, I didn’t buy that stuff, but I’m having custom stuff made. She then said, I’m watching what happens live. She didn’t end up buying anything. Could it be that she was having stuff made? And when Lisa Barlow gave her that information, she decided not to give her business to somebody who would listen if I’m buying a piece of jewelry, Amanda, and somebody that I may or may not be friends with, it doesn’t matter if it’s you or somebody I’m not friends with, goes and asks the jeweler if I purchased and what I purchased. And they tell them, I’m not gonna go to that person because I don’t know. It’s private, right? It’s obsessive, even, yeah, even if, and God knows, I’ll tell anyone what I paid for anything. But let’s say that I have a jeweler, and you say to me, I love that necklace. Where did you get it? And I send you to that jeweler, and they then tell you what I paid for something I wouldn’t like that. Yeah, yeah.
Or they’re like, oh, by the way, her necklace is lamb. I wouldn’t like that. That’s my business. And there is an implication within that whole thing, and the jeweler’s clearly picking a side, and yeah, it’s messy. I don’t care for it. I think it’s really hard to figure out exactly what the heck happened with that jewelry. And I am a little less interested in that story than I am in the whole Bronwyn and Todd affair thing, because when they were in Mexico, I think this was on the boat, Bronwyn said that she had been through that Todd had been unfaithful to her. She used the word infidelity. She never said emotional affair. She never said physical or sexual affair. The clear implication was that it was a sexual affair. When you use the word infidelity without clarifying that it’s emotionally only, then it’s a very clear implication. But so interesting timing here, guys, because Watch What Happens Live. Bronwyn was on it. Todd was in the audience. They filmed that after they filmed the reunion. I think it was pretty soon after Bronwyn said, I watch what happens live, that Todd didn’t physically cheat. And then that’s and we know that’s what she also said on the reunion. But there was something else going on Todd as he’s talking about it, or as she’s talking about it, you see the tears welling up in his eyes. He really struggled to speak on it, and then Bronwyn turns around because she’s sitting in front of him, to grab his hand and say, you’re okay. Like, did you find that a little bit strange? I felt like it would almost be more expected to be the other way around, like Bronwyn is teary, or they’re both teary, and Todd being the one to tell her, Oh, it’s okay. Like, I can’t quite put my finger on what is only two things. It can be. Bronwyn completely fabricated this for a storyline. Went home and had to be honest with him and say, Listen, I know that this never happened, but everyone was saying it, and I wanted to get the focus off, Gwen. We know he also wanted to get the focus off Gwen. We know it’s not true, but I threw this out there. I’ll backtrack as much as I can and just say it was emotional. That’s one option. The second option is that although Todd cheated in whatever capacity, be it emotional or physical, he’s the boss. She follows what he says she had to eat that affair, and similar to Jen Aiden eating Bill’s affair, and her bringing it up on camera was something she was asked not to do, and he was angry at her for mentioning it, even though he was the one that cheated. Those are the only two things it could be, because he never spoke on it. He didn’t utter a word. So we don’t know. I have to say I felt that him not showing remorse in any capacity, and just looking at her stunned and teary eyed, leads me to believe she threw that out there and maybe said something like, you have so many women that you work with, and you do have these close relationships. So I have had those feelings or some bullshit like that, because if it were the latter, because we saw him saying, I do recognize how I speak to her as gruff, and it’s something I need to work on. Why wouldn’t he give anything? It was a very hard time in our marriage, and it’s not something I would ever do again. I don’t know you know what I mean. His silence told me that this was, if not, fabricated, completely, very overblown. Yeah, I am gonna choose to believe it’s the latter of the two kind of scenarios that you like that they’re walking it back because she wasn’t supposed to bring it up, and Todd either made her or was like, we need, we need to walk it back for the sake of our relationship. I don’t want to believe that Bronwyn is that manipulative, because that’s a.
Really shitty thing to do, to just make up that your husband had an affair if it wasn’t if it wasn’t true. It’s also really shitty to talk on camera about your daughter’s father and then make it all and Barlow is guilty of many things, but in this case, Bronwyn showed her the picture, and Bronwyn spoke about it on camera, so but didn’t she show Lisa? They were off camera when that happened. And then she could have said, I refuse. And if Salt Lake City producers told her, if you refuse your fire, she could have been fired, yeah, and it is, ultimately, it was her story to tell, and she decided to tell it. Lisa didn’t tell it. Yeah, Lisa told more than what,
yeah. And Lisa was wrong in ways, but ultimately, Broman put brought that story to the camera. Yeah, she does actions and her words don’t align. What she chooses to do, and the stances she take don’t align. Yeah, we have three simple examples right in front of us, the Dilly jewelry example, the affair example, and the zinger, the daughter’s father example. We also know, and a lot of people pointed out it’s not really relevant to this story, and it isn’t, but to not mention her all season she presented herself the entire season that she raised Gwen alone, until she met Todd. And we know that’s not actually the case. That’s true. She had the baby with a man, and then when Gwen was very young, she was married to a man from Southern California. They got divorced, then she met and married Todd. Now, of course, what she could say is, why do I need to mention that? You don’t, but it is a part of your story, and you weren’t really a single mom Gwen’s life until you met Todd. You had a husband and she had a stepfather. Yeah, it is strange to me that she wouldn’t bring that up when it is pretty easy to find out. Yeah, but if it doesn’t go along with her version of the story, maybe that is, you’re right. Maybe that is telling us something. Meredith the robot, as many of us started calling her on Discord last week, Meredith is so indignant and so humorless, I also find Seth cringe because he tries to be funny and borders on inappropriate, and then Meredith lashing out at the women, yeah, but like also being clearly annoyed and rightfully so, by her husband, but prevent presenting like everything’s perfect in their marriage. I also found the whole conversation of like him traveling being the reason people didn’t think they were to get like many spouses have jobs where they travel, so that’s silly, right? The list of names she was called as if she doesn’t do the same thing. And she did say, with Angie and Sean, the rumors about the husband, and I do believe that she repeated that Sean was gay to Monica and or somebody that got back to Monica, yeah, it’s this holier than thou vibe, like when she stood up and was like, I’m leaving. Like, leave. Nobody seemed ready to nobody really wanted to stop her. She can’t stop herself. Yeah. Angie was like, okay, deuces bitch. I was told production loves her, and I find this like shocking, but she is back, so production loves a mean chocolate chip cookie.
I doubt that very you know I got, and then her sitting there, emotionless as Mary discussed Robert’s addiction, made me pissed. I don’t know if that was editing or what, but it What wasn’t editing was that then Meredith made it about her. She was pissed that Mary didn’t confide in her, and I’m like, wow, wow. She was pissed because Mary didn’t confide in her, and that would have given her screen time, and that’s another reason she hates Angie, because Angie’s just such a better housewife. Period. Dot 100 since we brought it up, Mary the way that she shared the update, and really just that she handled this all season, I thought was really beautiful. I loved that both Heather and Whitney shared that they watched the show with their kids, and that it spurred a discussion with them. This is a real, tangible, amazing thing, gift. Really, I think that Mary has brought to the audience of Salt Lake City, because we hear a lot about the struggles about addiction, especially from their loved ones, but she did such a good job. I thought of really helping understand the struggles of Robert of the addict, and that so often addicts are called vilified. They’re called weak, and really helping people see that there was a mental health connection for this he felt like he was a stain, and seeing her compassion and love was It was wonderful to watch. I am so with you. Mary is so different this season, and I really think that Angie’s friendship strengthened her. We heard this season, Mary shared that her dad was like never in.
Nice to her, and then her mother disowned her, and we know that’s when she married her grandmother’s husband, Robert senior, and then she was in this marriage where the power dynamic was so off, and frankly, it’s an odd setup, and then her son’s addiction. I don’t I can speak for myself, and I think many viewers when I say I don’t think we ever appreciated Mary’s trauma, and I think we saw it and understood it this season, and I think her sharing it with the women allowed them to receive her differently, and it just all was like the perfect storm of us getting to know Mary. She even shared about the racism she experienced growing up, and how she moved her son to New York so that he would be in a more diverse area and have opportunities to be with representation is everything right, and if you’re not represented, even if nobody is outwardly being mean to you, you do feel other than right, which can lead to less than right. So yeah, I incredible. I think the biggest evolution of any housewife we’ve ever seen in a positive way. You’re standing 11 stories above Fremont Street, and then whoosh, you’re flying wind in your face, neon below your feet, and that electric rush of old Vegas lighting up around you. This isn’t just a zip line. This is flodzilla, a full throttle five block flight through the heart of the Fremont Street Experience over roaring crowds beneath the world’s largest overhead screen, alive with music and light. Flozzilla. It’s not a ride. It’s a Vegas story you’ll tell forever. Book your flight now@vegasexperience.com
Look what happens when you show a little vulnerability or a lot of vulnerability. In her case, she had never done that before, and now that she did, we see a whole other side. We see her completely differently. I very much remember you and I sitting in exactly these same spots whenever, before the season started, and saying, I don’t care about Mary, yeah, and what ad we’ve both made and the viewers have made, and, oh, I know from my polls, like the beginning of the season, the DMS I would get, because even though we didn’t love Mary, I was excited, because she is funny, she’s funny. And so many people be like, how could you be supporting her? She’s mean, she’s awful, she said racist things, all this stuff. And now when I do a poll, it’s like, love her, right, right? So Atlanta dropped their trailer this week. I’m just gonna say it. I have missed these ladies. I it, at least from the trailer, it looks like it’s gonna be a good season. Oh, I’m so excited. We know that Kenya leaves because of something she does to Brittany Edie. We’ve discussed this on the pod, but we did get told that she will have the final say. I took that to mean she’ll be at the reunion and or have confessionals. And we know Simon watched the trailer of Atlanta because he’s big, mad, disrespecting Porsche’s mother, threatening to sue. Bravo. NBC, I will never understand how or why Porsche got involved with him. I want to see Porsche date. I cannot wait for Phaedra be back in the mix. With this said, as I was thinking about the trailer and processing it, and thinking about Portia and thinking about Phaedra and being excited, obviously, for their return, I also want them to
remember what Mary gave us, because sometimes establish housewives try to bring drama to the table by having scuffles amongst the ladies, like Tamara judge does. And I want to see your vulnerability. I want to see what’s going on in your life, raising your children, the struggles you’re facing in your day to day. And since they’re both single, as far as we know I want to see dating because there’s no way they’re not, yeah. So that is what I’m hoping. It’s not just them hopping like we love them, but them hopping back on camera isn’t enough. I don’t just want to see you. I want to see things happening with you. Yeah, and I can list example after example. And like, not to go all Brene Brown on you guys, but she is the first person to come out and say vulnerability is the key. And I can think even this last, the last couple episodes of Beverly Hills, the Kyle that, and I wanted to see again, because she’s showing some vulnerability, right? It’s, well, I feel like we saw that in this week’s Beverly Hills episode, yeah, yeah. And we see it. We see through when there is manufactured drama, and we see right through it. And I keep thinking about what a different not to be just skipping all over the place, but what a different season it could have been had Brynn shared what happened to her, not just to her brother on camera, but with the other women? And had she shared that earlier and shown her own vulnerability? And I think that there is a good lesson for her in there as well. Yeah, but yeah, I don’t know what this I can’t quite put my finger on what it is.
Is about Atlanta, but it felt a little like a return to where we started. But in a good way, you know, I don’t know if it’s because we have some of the OGS back and we’ve got a WAG who, you know, has a kind of prim and proper demeanor, at least that we can see on the trailer. But in the best of ways, it feels like a little bit of a return in a really good way. Okay, I’m with you. Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills, where do you wanna start? So we mentioned Kyle, yeah, I guess. Okay, I guess we have to start with the fact guys watching dorit and PKS divorce turn contentious in real time. I keep saying this. She really made that announcement. They were like, We won’t fire you. And she is giving us everything. And vulnerability, there’s a reason why every fan, every viewer, is rallying around Dorit, who is not a particularly well loved housewife, by the way. And I’m watching this and I’m going, is PK an asshole? Reports and I posted this to my story, are saying that Boy George is broke or in debt. So obviously PK is having money issues, because that’s his main source of income that we know of. We’re seeing him. We’re seeing dorit share that he doesn’t want to be financially responsible for the house, all of these weird things. Dorit even calls him a bad dad. Is PK a con man? Did he con doret? I mean, I think the same about I had the exact same question in my head about Simon gabadia and Portia. I think it seems to be a bit of a pattern, right? And I think what was really 10 years and two kids is a long con. That’s a long con. But what was really sad is the way the show started out when it was showing all the flashbacks of dorit and PKS marriage, and I never didn’t believe that she was really, truly in love with him. Yeah, I will also say that whole scene when they’re having dinner at Kathy Hilton’s Dorit, that’s when she says, when somebody asked, was he a good dad? And then she says, No, and everybody’s shocked and shares that. Not only did he say, I want you to take full financial responsibility for the house and everything, I want you to do it in one to two months. And again, he sent the seven page email, and that’s the first that she’s really heard from him, other than a text saying, I’m at a friend’s wedding. Goodbye. I think what’s happening is we’re seeing that this marriage for PK was always very superficial, and it wasn’t for Dorit, like he’s discarding her very simply. This is no longer fun. When they got married nine and a half years ago, she was younger than him and beautiful and enamored with his London life and Beverly Hills life. And then they had two kids, and had some financial hardships, and had the break in, which now those rumors, oh, is he capable of that? Our opinions are all firming up. Garcelle was onto something, and so now we’re seeing that things got to real life, marriage complicated. And he was like, Okay, let’s stop this right here. And at that Capri dinner, Kathy’s, I just always think of Jesse from Valley copy. At that dinner, Erica gave some real tough love. And what I found to be really interesting, because this is a conversation. These are things that a good friend who has been through divorce needs to tell another friend, and the way that Erica did, it was loving but Stern. And what I thought was very interesting was that dorit listened, she did, and she did not get mad at her, because a lot of women would get pissed for somebody saying, they would say, stay out of my marriage or whatever. But Dori really listened to it and took it in, and that I found to be very interesting. Yeah, 100%
like, just think about Kyle, right? When somebody I think, of a sudden, who said maybe you should file Yes, Kyle is pissed. This week may be really sad for Kyle. Kyle is not having a great season, and seeing them at the gun range, which first of all, was bizarre. Hire her security if you’re worried. I was watching with my husband, and I was like, Wait a second, a couple that is separated, and yes, I know that their friends or whatever, but they’re going to a gun race to shoot guns danger with each other. What? But there were cameras there. I did think the scene. I thought it was really poignant, because what I took away from it and what I saw, because you got to look at the body language, not just what they’re saying. I saw a woman who was very much still in love with a man. It was very her bilingual which was very tuned into him, and she crumpled into him when talking about how she’s feeling like the one left behind because nobody else he’s gotten to move on and be in this other house and whatever. And she’s.
And it was interesting
that her moving on wasn’t with a man, so that very much shows that maybe she is still in love with him. I agree with exactly what you saw. I’m just gonna come out and say what I think. I think Mauricio was a cheater. I think he kept it very quiet. I think he I think that in their marriage, she would find out, he would make it up to her. He’d be good for a little while. I think he stopped keeping it quiet, or she found out something bad. There was some love child again, guys, I’m just spit balling, but I think that she still very much wants to be with him. And I think that he got to a point their kids were older, where he wanted to still do what he wanted to do, and more boldly on ski slopes in Aspen, perhaps go on Dancing with the Stars and bang his partner. It was like, Okay, I’ve been the family man for the last 25 years. We’re good here, and I really feel terribly for Kyle, honestly, yeah, it felt to me like while she’s resigned herself to the situation, she wishes it were different, yes, and maybe even hopeful that he’ll get this out of his system and it will be different, yeah. And maybe that’s why they’re not moving on anything? Okay, so I know there’s no doubt that she doesn’t want a divorce for sentimental reasons, and that’s very convenient for him. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that I had a hard time getting past bozes Boyfriend keelys Leopard shirt unbuttoned, fortify buttons at a nice Steakhouse. What would you do if your husband was like, Okay, I’m ready. That’s what he was gonna wear. I will say this. I think there’s a time and a place. My husband is very worked out. Everyone who knows me is laughing. And if we were in the Bahamas for the weekend, which we have been, and he had a couple of buttons unbuttoned, and we were at an outdoor restaurant. It’s a vibe, oh yeah, I get a couple drinks said, and I’m doing that to my husband,
because he would never, never go beyond one, one down, or maybe two, because he’s pretty conservative. But the leopard, what would you do if your husband were a shiny leopard? Cheer to dinner, I’d probably encourage it, but it just would never happen.
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listen. And the thing about it is that we love Boz, and we want the best for her. And if she’s happy. I’m happy, but I get the ick from this guy. I do this. I definitely felt a little uneasy for her. It’s a 47 year old woman who back to egg freezing. Can freeze her eggs, because I hope so. If you want another child, ladies, and you’re in your late 30s, just freeze them. But okay, I am young. I’m older than you. I am younger than 47 I cannot am at and I’ve been remarried. I talk with my husband, and I talk a lot about how we’re not gonna have we’re not gonna have any more babies, but how we would love to have had that experience together, but we’re both know we’re thinking about grandkids, or about, you know, what our life is going to be as empty nesters and that kind of thing. And like, for a 47 year old woman to think about going through, not just through freezing eggs, but to it seemed that she said, I think that she would want to carry the child and you’re at that age, and you’re having this conversation, who’s saying yes, but not yet. That just that made me very and what about in the trailer for next week’s episode, when she tells them, You know what’s crazy. We talk about having kids together, but we haven’t said I love you yet.
I just don’t think that he has her best interest at heart. I really don’t. I hope I’m wrong. I’ve been wrong before. Yeah, I thought Paige and Craig would be married. Yeah, I’m not always right about relationships, but I’m pretty good at guys who give the ick and he gives the ick. Yeah, I don’t think he’s a terrible person. I don’t think he’s a nefarious person. I think that. I also think there’s a possibility. So let me spin it a little bit. I think there’s a possibility that, since they’re in their late 40s, I assume he’s a similar age, maybe he’s a little younger. I don’t know when he met her and they started dating, and he really was into her, and she’s beautiful and successful and intelligent, he may have.
Thought it was going to be a situation like you and your husband have, where we’re in earlier 40s, and we’ve been there, we’ve done that, or if we haven’t, we’re not doing it at this point. And when she dropped this bomb that she wants more kids, he was really into her and didn’t want to end it for that. Because picture it if you were in love, and you can actually speak to this and your husband really wanted, it may not have been off the table for you. If it’s something he really wanted, you may have said, You know what? We can adopt, or we can look into whatever if you love the person, it may be something where you had hoped you were aligned, but it wouldn’t be completely off the table, and that might be where he is, yeah, but do you really think that’s what it is? Because I don’t know. I don’t
I agree. I also think bozoma is one of those people who, when she starts to date somebody past a couple of dates, it’s probably one of those people who’s, hey, I date to marry i Here are the things that I want. And it could be that Keely, like, used to closing deals. Yeah, exactly. And she’s very forthright, which I we all love about her. And so, you know, maybe Keely was like, I really like her. I don’t want to lose her. I think, I think I want this too, but then didn’t put the thinking into six months a year down the road what that would mean for him, but I loved there were just some super classic moments in the episode Kathy. Was Kathy ng to the nth degree when she was like, PJ
Record scratch. She’s like, PJ, PK, what’s the difference? And then the sin, we all know it’s put on, but she’s damn good at it. It’s like she’s got a stand up routine. Oh, I think she, do you think that was a put on? I feel like she just actually slipped and didn’t even realize it. I don’t know. I think, Oh no, I think she puts it on. Oh, you think very bright woman. I think when the smoothest shade, when she goes, How old is PK and Dorico is 56 she goes, I thought he was 56 when I met him many years ago. That was light so good. Get him. Cathy, get him. That’s the kind of friend you need to have dinner with. You know what I’m saying? Two martinis in Oh, that’s like her saying, bless your heart, and speaking of bless your heart seeing these women in their 50s, Garcelle Sutton and Kyle being terrified of an 83 year old woman calling her grandchild, and then garcelles Kid, weird. It’s like Reba, yes, but it does. It made seeing her made Sutton make so much more sense to me, and Garcelle said it, and Sutton doesn’t necessarily like it, but it’s there we go. Apples trees, yeah, and they’re not exactly the same, and I think that’s a fair thing of Garcelle to say, but that you can see where it’s this is how Sutton was raised, and probably she’s fighting saying a lot of the things that she’s thinking, because that’s how her mom was, and that’s when this, sometimes, this shit just comes out. And I definitely also think, though, that is also probably why she is pretty sensitive and does wear her heart on her sleeve more than her mother did, because she saw because she was raised the way she was, 100%
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Beverly Hills is having a amazing season run a can shove it saying that it’s on life support. It is very much well and alive. I’m loving it. I’m looking forward to doing it, the editing, the jokes, it’s good. And then you have the serious stuff balanced with the Kathy of it all so good it is. And again, we don’t have to have a scandal revealed, and we don’t have to have a oh my gosh, we’re unmasking Monica as the blogger who is talking it doesn’t always have to be that. It can be all the real life stuff, as long as we’re seeing what’s really going on, and that’s what’s been so good. I do think that we should wrap up New York. We got a few minutes left to do it. Yeah, okay, I’ll start Brynn and UBA. I really think, after watching the second episode of the reunion, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, because I believe Brynn when she talks about that conversation, but I don’t believe that Uber heard it, because Brynn says she was named. Why did all these bad things happen to me and then names all of these things? And if I also think that, can I just interrupt one second please? Maybe knowing that Uber and Bryn were clearly very close, which I don’t think we all took into consideration, and knowing that Uber knew so much about brynn’s trauma, maybe Brynn, and if she didn’t tell her, and we don’t know she says she thinks she did whatever, maybe she felt like how much trauma I have, how much damage I have. Why the fuck are you saying I suck dick or sleep with people to get a job?
Up. Yeah, it doesn’t make what Brynn did okay, but that could be the scope, yeah, I and which is why I think Uber was okay to come over and give her a hug hug, and meet somewhere in the middle and have some resolution. Because maybe, although it was egregious to say that someone said it, maybe Uber did have a sense of I need to be accountable for knowing that Brynn has a lot of trauma, and I it was really bad when I said and I really appreciated Uber doing that. No, I did too. I also think, yeah, Brynn completely avoided the other women when they reached out to her after the trip, because I think she really, I she didn’t want to face the music. Because I think that’s a and I think that’s a pretty normal reaction for people who have been through trauma, is they don’t want to go through more. I thought it was very interesting that UBA was willing to apologize and forgive on that, but then double down on the conversation about with Raquel about Puerto Rico. She couldn’t take accountability, and she couldn’t apologize again, even though she’s had the chance to walk to watch it back. And then when she said, Oh, when Andy brought up that the women don’t bring things to her because they’re scared of her reaction, and she’s gone, I’m glad they’re afraid of me. I don’t something just seems off. And I feel like, while Brynn was wrong, I feel like she really got ganged up on and I feel like Cy really was behind it. Yeah, the whole Becky Minkoff of it all, she should have shown more of that. I feel like she’s a layered person, and she was purposely guarded. Yeah, Erin is pissed at her. I love Erin, but Erin was giving major bitch. I get. She’s very pregnant, but she was just so annoyed the whole time. Yeah, Psy, is Psy too hard on Bryn? Yes. She wanted her to just be. She wanted Uber to, like, get her and then she congratulates Jenna for being firm. It’s, it’s almost like, size that girl that if she doesn’t like somebody, nobody else can, yeah, oh, for sure, she is. I can’t I don’t like I really have tried to give Psy a fair shake, but she just rubs me the wrong way, and she does. She seems not just like she makes quick snap decisions. She seems very vengeful. 100%
good news is this group will be disbanded. I have a source who knows a woman. They’re in their third round of interviews this week. I am sworn to secrecy, but from what I know of this person, what I’ve seen on social it would be good. I also know that the memo to casting, that casting has given is we want fun, we want light, we want we don’t want like people coming on here and trauma dumping. So, you know, I think we will, I think Jen is out, I think, and I think it’ll be mutual. I think Bryn is out, Uber doubtful, although I feel like maybe they pop her in for a party with Psy stuff like that, in that capacity, like we’ll see her face, but she’s not going to be full time. Because I think that there’s something the billionaire boyfriend and the supermodel, and there’s a vibe to her that would make a good person who appears here and there at a party beyond that. I don’t think she’s cut out for full time housewife. I think Erin is back. I think Jessel is back. I’m gonna say size back. And it’s I wanna like Psy, because I’ve said it before. I think in real life, I’d be friends with Psy. I think I get her, but I think she’s too hard on people, and I think she takes herself too seriously, in a way, she smells blood in the water and goes vicious, vicious, vicious. I think if UBA were more of the Uber we saw at the reunion versus the Uber we saw a season, I would want to see more of that, because we can all handle a housewife who, like doesn’t know how to say their story, right that we’re used to. It’s just the all the outbreaks and the acting like she didn’t want to be there all season. It gets tiring to watch. I’m with you 100%
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that. Yet, it makes sense, though it sounds like I got you, boo. We have a lot to look forward to. I don’t want, I don’t like, to think about Beverly Hills being over, because it’s been so good, just like Salt Lake City, I had to mourn. But then we’ve got love hotel coming up. We think I’ve never done on this cocktail pod, and I’m not even drinking. Oh, my redness. I can’t wait I’m gonna reveal a source. Oh, okay. All right, you know what? Fuck her out and find him. Now is the time to sign up for cocktail party, apparently.
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