126. Back to the Big Apple; Shannon’s Love Hotel scandal; Has Tamra gone too far? Jax and Brittany’s divorce update

RHONY is back and we are loving it. The women have seemingly all evolved their friendships/alliances. Is Brynn stirring the pot for fun or to make good tv? Erin’s got a lot on her shoulders this season. We’re intrigued by Raquel. Did Tamra go too far speaking about Ryan from OC on Watch What Happens Live? 

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What’s up? Cocktails. Hello, Amanda guys. Amanda’s traveling for work, so maybe a little bit of feedback or stuff like that.
But we’re doing all right? I hear myself a little Yeah. I know I’m in a room and I’m like, surrounding myself by pillows
and there’s the it’s like a lot of it’s like a tile floor in here. So we’re doing our best, but we’re making this happen. So super excited to talk about everything this week, because there is so much going on. I we are speaking of back. Roni is back, and I don’t even know where to begin, but I’m so excited. I just love these women. I love them. I love that the show started like it did, the whole three months before, or No, three months later, or months later. Yeah, three months later, and it shows Uber and Brin not speaking because of something insane that happened. It looks like it was on their girls trip, which, if my memory serves me correct, was Puerto Rico. And the women are all assembled for a cast photo shoot for promo picks. And they’re basically all like, how are we going to get through today with these two? This is really bad. This is never going to be mended like totally I think that the show started out by breaking the fourth wall. I think it’s really working. When I say breaking the fourth wall, they actually show that Aaron went on Jeff Lewis on his radio show and pod where Jeff insinuated that Brynn is an escort, so now Brynn and Aaron are beefing about this, because Brynn, clearly and obviously, who wouldn’t like this. She did not like these comments. Jeff said something along the like she being supported financially and Erin, at least in the clips, it did seem like Erin didn’t really say anything, and I think she actually said that’s not true, but I remember hearing so I listened to this pod, or at least heard the clips before they aired the show. I understand where Brynn is coming from, and she says at that explosive.
If dinner, drink, whatever she did with everybody, she said, You could have shut it down with more force. And I think that Erin sincerely apologized. She was like, You’re right. I should have shut it down with more force. I agree with Brynn. I understand why she’s upset. Erin didn’t. Erin said no, oh no, but it wasn’t, I don’t know, Amanda, if you were on a podcast and that was said about me, I would accept, I would expect you to say, like, unequivocally, that is not true. B has a successful career. Her money is earned. You know what I’m saying. The other thing that annoyed me too, aside from Erin, who did apologize all the women like in their confessionals going, who cares? I wouldn’t care if someone said I had a sugar daddy. That’s bullshit. Like it’s so easy. The rest of them are the what like sigh, said it. Jessel said it like you’re married. No one’s saying it about you. But I remember after season one, Brynn was very verbal, and she took issue with editing. She was annoyed that they only really focused on her being flirty and giggly, which, listen, she does that role. She even says in the first episode, when she storms off after being called Satan by sigh to her brother, why am I a bad guy? All I do is flirt and giggle or something like that. So it doesn’t mean that you want the narrative on a well known, popular podcast to be that you sleep with men for money. And I think it is such an antiquated patriarchy thing. Yeah, that right, because a woman is successful, the assumption has to be, it can’t be that she did mention she is a consultant advertising and marketing and everything. It can’t be that she’s had a successful career like she’s in her mid 30s or mid to late. So you graduate college at 21 so she’s got over a decade of work experience under her belt. If she was a man, nobody would assume he had a sugar mama. And that’s, that is the thing. Because I was thinking about this, I’m like, okay, somebody went on a podcast and said, Oh, Amanda’s an accountant, and that would annoy me, right? But it’s not even it’s that insinuation that she hasn’t worked her ass off for what she has like the whole sex worker or sugar part, the sexual piece of it, aside that alone, just the insinuation that she’s not working really hard for what she has, that’s really that’s hurtful. It’s hurtful and it’s frustrating. And I understand why she would be and it’s coming from a man, by the way, and that is why, as much as I love Erin, Erin should have shut that down. Erin wants to talk a lot about how she’s a straight shooting New Yorker. She fucked up on this one because I’m a straight shooting New Yorker. And I would have been like, Excuse me, sir, because it’s also important where it’s coming from. Excuse me, sir. Let’s not assume that women with money in Manhattan are all being taken care of by Yeah, exactly, yeah. I’m sorry, but if you’re going on Jeff Lewis, you got to be prepared. He’s going to try to stir shit up. So I don’t know. I definitely think Aaron could have handled that a lot differently, but I think funny enough on Aaron. Aaron is pissed because she joked about Jenna having money problems. So the story is that Jenna was they were out in the Hamptons, and Jenna’s quote, unquote old Mercedes hoopty broke down, and Aaron offered to get Jenna an Uber so the issue, though, is that Jenna didn’t pay Aaron back, and so Aaron made jokes about Jenna having money problems, and then Brynn told everybody that Aaron said that Jenna is having money problems and that Aaron said that Jenna is poor. Okay, so when I first heard this, I was like, this is beyond ridiculous. Jenna having money problems. She was the vice president of J Crew for all those years. She owns a multi million dollar condo in the city, a multi million dollar state in the Hamptons. But I got to thinking, and I’m just saying the fact that Jenna is making this a thing got my little mind working right? So last year, we know she was pushing all her products. She’s back on this show, even though she admittedly hated it. She didn’t attend Bravo con. Now I am not saying Jenna Lyons is poor. That’s not what I’m saying. But by her standards, obviously not say my standards, like the standards of like normal people. Could Jenna be invested in stuff, not be earning as much as at one time? Let’s say, when she worked at J Crew, she had a salary, guys, I’m making this up a million dollars, and so now she’s left that, and she’s doing a lot of entrepreneurial stuff.
And she has invested a lot of her monies into things, and so her liquid cash isn’t what it once was. And moreover, does Erin somehow know this? Do the ladies somehow know this? And these are, well to do, women, for the most part, and their finances are different than the average viewer. I would guess we’re looking at it like, How could anyone be taking this seriously. Why is Jenna taking this seriously? But it could very well be that what everything I just said, there’s something I don’t think Jenna would be I think you’ve got a great point. Because I don’t think Jenna would be making this big of a deal out of it if it was like so laughably stupid that there was no kernel truth to it. I think she because the other thing that’s strange, and maybe Jenna did pay Erin for the Uber leader, but we didn’t hear about that on the show, so that is strange to me. I just have to say, though I find it, I don’t know if I’m out with my girlfriends and I pick up an Uber. I think it was a little bit of an expensive Uber, but I feel like almost all of my friends would Venmo me? But in the off chance that one of them didn’t, it’s, I got you, you got me. So I did find it a little weird that Aaron said something, yeah, it was a $250 Uber. So I do wonder, yeah, that’s a lot of money.
Girl, how much was that? Let me please. Thank you so much for helping me out. Let me Venmo, you right, that would that’s how I would handle it if I were Jenna same. Yeah. Seems petty. I don’t know the whole thing seems petty, but then it makes me think that there’s like an underlying thing. What I just explained that Erin is pointing out that Jenna doesn’t have the money coming in that people would assume she does. Yeah, yeah, because here she is back on on housewives, as you said, yeah, and then with Jenna and cy seem to also have some beef. I’m really curious, actually, to get your thoughts on this, because Brynn told Jenna that Cy said she hates her. And Cy is honest and says to Jenna, look, I didn’t like you last year, but I never said I hated you. And once again, she’s like, why is Rin telling everybody this stuff, which is, there is a point there, but Yikes, I would have had my feelings hurt about that if I were Jenna too, not just because it was like, apparently, Cy told a lot of people that she didn’t like Jenna. Not she didn’t just tell Brynn that in confidence. She told a lot of people that. And Jenna says that she’s Yeah, like, you talk shit about me all over Manhattan, and it got back to me, yeah. And I thought size apology was sincere. And she was like, listen, honestly, I really didn’t care for you. I never said I hated you. There is a distinction. Yeah, it’s hard, because you have to own it, right? So I think if you’re on a show and remember it guys, it was their first season. So as Psy was telling people she saw at like her influence, or dinners and parties and stuff, she probably didn’t think they’d run back and tell Jenna, but clearly they did, right? So now she’s got to apologize, size, very open about her therapy. But then something that really turned me off, like the disliking Jenna thing, didn’t turn me off as much because I was just being honest, whatever. Yeah, she apologized for it, but I didn’t like when they brought up that at the dinner at Jenna’s house, Psy and Jessel, like, got into it, and Psy texted and called parvet Dory from Nemo. Yeah, I’m sorry, but pavid is a sweetie, and it’s very below the bolt belt to be angry at Jessel and insult her husband’s physical appearance. Yeah, I 100% agree. Psy admits, like, how she is, that she can be cutting and but there are moments where I’m like, this isn’t a tell it like it is New Yorker. This is mean, yeah, we can’t deny brynn’s role in all of these things. Psy keeps saying she’s unwell, which I don’t know how I feel about that. I think she’s weaponizing her newfound mental health work like her own mental health like like Whitney is on Salt Lake City, our healing journey, I’m getting help now. And clearly she’s got a personality disorder, and this is why she’s acting this way. So my question for you, Amanda, is Brynn trying to create drama for television? Is she not wanting relationships to form. Okay. Is she okay? Excuse me, let me reword that, because I’m I’m falling over my own words here, okay. Is she trying to create drama for TV, okay? Or does she really not want these women to have relationships, and she’s trying to wedge between them? Or is it a little bit of both? Or do we not know? I would think it’s probably a little bit of both, right? Because I think Brynn has a big mouth. I think Brynn is definitely one of those people who has, she has a very clearly, has a very full life outside of the show, like she even said, I think it was in the free.
Union, I have 1000 friends. I’m not worried about it. I just think, though, too about all of the other housewives who have big mouths that we very much enjoy, right? Think of Heather gay. Think of Lisa Rinna. I think the list goes on, and it does make for good TV. And I do feel it might be a little unfair for Bryn to take all the heat for telling Jenna that Psy doesn’t like her, when Cy told a lot of people, and it did get back to Jenna, and I think, I do think, though, that Brynn telling that story about what Aaron calling Jenna poor. I think that is fully done to absolutely to start shit. Yeah, it’s just interesting to me, because it feels like everything has gotten turned upside down. And like everybody got thrown into a little the game boggle Yeah, a little boggle shaker, and then, like everyone’s landing in different places, as far as who’s friends with who, and how all this is working. And like, Uber at that lunch, pretty seemed like she is anti brand. So Mike, where did that come from? It’s almost a little disorienting to come into the season, because all of the kind of alignment have really changed. And so it’s who is writing for who here, because I don’t have a clear picture of it yet, and I think that a lot of that is the show. There’s, there was a lapse of time between when they wrapped first season and it aired, and then there’s a lapse of time between when it aired and they got all the fans feedback, right? Yeah, and it’s almost like they said stuff about each other, forgetting that they’d all have to sit around a table again. And now it’s interesting, because someone like Brynn wants to say what she wants to say, but also wants to be liked by everybody.
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Even Psy, who I think tries to play it like she doesn’t care whether people like her or not. I don’t know. I enjoy it. I like it. I think it’s good dynamics. I think they all have really big personalities. Yeah, I agree, and all of them seem to have a lot going on. I think Erin especially seems like she’s got a lot going on in her life. Right now, she shared that her mom was battling breast cancer, and then it was very aggressive. She did luckily, and closer to real time recently, she posted that her mom is in remission, but we know that this was filmed as her mom was going through it that was certainly affecting Erin, who who seems pretty on edge, but there’s other stuff going on too. I’m so relieved to hear her mom’s doing okay in real time her dad just passed. Someone had sent me, because whenever housewives are on TV, people follow her sibling who posted is actually not public, but somehow somebody follows her and posted his like Memorial and services. So I, of course, did not post about her father’s passing. I did not do that, but that is why she wasn’t at press events. Everyone kept asking. And I was like, in my head, whatever, I just ignored those questions. She alludes to her and Abe going through stuff. I It seems like we’re gonna see it sounds like he lied about something. We see her in previews. It looks like she’s telling brain. It rocked her. Yeah, a while, yeah, you and I discussed what we had heard, yeah, but there was a legal Yeah. There was Yeah, issue that had been resolved, lawsuit, right? Yeah, yes, where money had been put in to one of their business accounts, like a substantial amount of money, and that some of that money had been used. And then there was the lawsuit. The legal filing was asking that they return the money and that the credit bank, essentially that said the money was absolving themselves from the issue. It does sound like that all got settled and resolved, but I think I wonder if there’s something to do with that. That’s what my mind went to, because that was fairly public. We received the documentation on it. It was a big deal, although it’s resolved, like if you or I found out that our husbands had received money from a bank, whether or not they knew whatever or not that they weren’t completely honest with what had happened, because it could be a situation where bank made Abe aware. Guys, I’m speculating here, and Abe like he’s an attorney, right? He just resolved it, and then Aaron found out about and she’s Wait up, hold a minute. How come I didn’t know this happened, right? So it’s not matter that Abe did something wrong. It’s a matter of there was an error which could be an honest paperwork etc, kind of error, but it’s something that certainly I would expect my husband to share with me, that I would share with him. So I think that when she says like it rocked me, it’s because in a marriage, the most important thing is transparency and trust. So even if you make a mistake, which has happened like, throughout the course of my marriage, there have been things that have happened financially. I’m talking something as simple as like getting a parking ticket. I am guilty of having received a parking ticket or even a speeding ticket and not mentioning it to my husband, but if he found out, like, he would be like, This is not as big a deal.
Deal, obviously, yeah, so I think it could be something like that. I hear that they’re fine now, so yeah. And I also want to point out guys just remember last year how Erin talked and we saw her dad, and how she said, like, how close she’s been with her dad and, like, I just, you know, the way that she spoke about her father, I have so much I’m just sending so much love, because I think they were really close, and this has been, I’m sure, just an awful, really awful year. So sad too. Because remember from last season, Erin is an only, the only child between her father and her mother and on, I believe it was Heather McDonald’s podcast. Erin shared that her father when, when her parents got divorced, her father remarried. He had four children with a woman who abandoned those children and was not in their life. So now those four siblings of hers, Erin has her mom. They their mom, based on what Erin shared, is not in their lives so, and she’s the eldest sibling, so it’s, it’s just so sad. And as you said, she was so close with her dad, so we’re sending her all of our love. I enjoy Aaron’s honesty. I think that she’s very open. I did laugh that she got when so Abe makes a joke about shrooming, but then they she gets pissed at him, which I totally get. But then they cut to her first season showing her house to one of the women in the Hamptons, and her going, isn’t this room a great place where you can really trip out? And it’s like the seams are showing somebody likes to party? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think though, like, I don’t blame her and the who knows too, like she seemed on edge even at that in that scene with the kids, because they’re talking about possibly buying this townhouse. And like, she did see him on edge, and so then he makes a shroom joke. And like, I don’t blame her for being a little pissed, because, like, they have kids, I don’t think shrooms are legal. I think shrooms are only legal now and or maybe just decriminalize. I can’t remember the difference in a few states. I’m pretty sure New York is not one of them. I really wouldn’t want my husband joking about taking shrooms on camera either as an ape attorney. That’s a particular like, I’m just saying I’m no stick in the mud, but I might not want my legal counsel to do shrooms on the weekend, right? I agree. So we also have Becky Minkoff. Rebecca Minkoff, she is a new friend of she we have spoken briefly about her on the podcast in the past, we’ve had some pretty good tea about her on cocktail party, if you guys want to go back and look at that. So she is actually introduced exactly, really our friend. I do, like in the previews, they actually say to her, what should we say if we’re asked about Scientology? Because I really didn’t think they’d touch on it. I don’t know why. It just seems, yeah, I don’t know a ton about Scientology, and what I do know is all bad stuff. So I don’t think brynn’s Comment was the worst thing, but I do think that. I think what the ladies are saying about Brynn is evidenced in her comment to her brother, right? So he, she’s, oh, yeah, this girl, Rebecca Mankoff, is coming, and the brothers who, and she’s, if you’ve ever been to Nordstrom Rack, you know who I’m talking about. Listen, Brynn could have said, if you’ve ever been to Nordstrom there is zero anyone with Nordstrom Rack. They have beautiful stuff. I all the time. No but instead of Nordstrom, changed it from letting your brother know she’s a successful designer to shade? Yeah, I totally agree. And that’s one that, like, I think Brynn is going to have to answer for, because it did. It just sounded a little bit shitty, and I didn’t like that either, because as women, we need to be building each other up. And Rebecca Minkoff has been, I have a little wallet from her, and she did some really cute stuff inside the wallet. It like, looked like somebody had written their phone number and like a little message. And just, I just always thought her stuff was great. And this is where it’s like, why are we not building each other up? And being like, she built this crazy, big empire. She is a known name in the fashion industry. Oh, it’s super fun that we are getting to get to know her.
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could have been like I said. She didn’t say that. I think Brynn is gonna have to answer for that. But I mean, with Becky coming on the show, I don’t feel like I have an impression really, either way, on her yet, because she came to lunch, she seems very friendly, she seems pretty open. She came to the cocktail hour, but was not really in the mix. We have another new housewife, Raquel. So she is the art curator and advisor. She has placed art on television shows like succession, and just like that, she’s very good friends with Jenna. They have had very some similarities in their kind of life path, because Raquel was also married to a man and is now a lesbian with a long term partner named Mel. So I find her very interesting. I’m really intrigued by her. She’s She likes motorcycles and adventure. She’s also a model and quite successful like this was a perfect example of how you can build each other up. Jenna said, you know, she is a presence in the art world that is a very male dominated business like There you go. That’s how you do it. You build each other. I feel like she’s ready. She came. She’s not hiding anything. We learned so much about her in just her few minutes. It was fantastic. And I’m very interested in her. She is I don’t know anything about the artwork, other than like Charlotte, what I learned from Sex in the City. So I find that, yeah, it wasn’t, not exactly, but on and just like that. God, I can’t think of her name. Charlotte’s friend, whose husband is running for City Comptroller, she reminds me of her, like in a real life vibe, but like a lesbian version. Oh, yes, Lisa, similar kind of look. And yeah, these. But I want to see that world. I want to I want the ladies to go gallery a man, yeah, I know. I agree with you. Isolation like, yeah, they will. I remember we saw that they do film at something like that. So I’m looking forward to seeing that. What did you think? By the way, so we know from off screen things, as well as some hints that happen on watch. What Happens Live that Jenna is engaged or married to a woman named Cass Blackbird, who is a photographer. What did you think about the fact that we meet Jenna?
Jenna so Cass we meet her mom, helping with Jenna’s closet, like Mary’s closet. She never was on the show, but she’s not just nicer. I’ll be honest with you, it’s like a den, like it’s either, I think I would be there all the time too, though, and she’s constantly, like, cleaning through clubs, like very expensive YSL club type shoes. Listen, yeah, the feedback from viewers in my DMs was like Jenna did share because, look, she’s got her fiance, or I believe they are legally married now’s wife’s mom on the show. Listen, Cass Blackbird. Don’t know her. She is not Melissa Etheridge. She is not such a huge name that she can’t be on a show. I’m gonna say something, guys, I find Jenna to be a little bit too self important, and I didn’t feel that way first season. I saw her as, like, shy and not used to being in the setting that she was in, and now I’m finding her more aloof and like she’s too good for it, and I don’t like it, and I don’t like it, because if you were too good for it, you wouldn’t have come back. So we’re all here. Let’s go season three. You’re only welcome if you and Cass are married or engaged. You’re welcome with her, her mother, by the way, lovely woman thinks she’s got a cool, spunky personality. She’s Welcome to be there as well, but Cass has to come on. This is not they are no more famous than Rebecca minkle, yeah. Sorry. Oh, no. One minute. One minute. Agree, definitely agree with you. So they go take it for a gay man is if you’ve never been with a woman like sexually, and if you’ve had a C section because you’ve never touched a vagina.
Gay cocktailers message me. Yeah, I’ve heard of it. Yeah, I’ve heard it before as well. So that’s too okay. I know where we’re gonna talk about Uber. So Uber, we see her at the lunch, and then she did say, I have to get to the party late. So then she she does come to the party late. She’s showing pictures of him. She’s talking about him. She’s talking about wanting to try, to start trying for a baby with him in that year. And we also see that she and Aaron are very good. Uber isn’t the pregnant one that I was told is pregnant. I have to leave it there. I wish I could say more. I want to see more from Uber. I’m glad she shared about the man. We better actually see him on screen. And I don’t know how to say it, except that Uber gets a friend of edit, and I know she’s full time, and it’s confusing to me. I know we’re only one episode in but even last year, I felt that way. Yeah, I Yeah, moving on. Wait, I know you said you can’t say, could a pregnant person be Aaron? Oh, okay, okay, then All right, let’s talk. Oh, see, because a lot has been going on. Tamara went on Watch What Happens Live. And it’s very interesting, guys, because those of you guys who are on Discord, like we’ve been hearing from people who said I actually watched it live. I then had a friend who wanted to watch it, so I said I would watch it with her. And there was, it was edited. So if you watched it live, you saw this happen. But if you watch just the previously the recorded version that you can just turn on Comcast without recording it, it had been edited. Black Friday week starts November 21 and so are amazing deals at Amazon. You’ll save so much on early holiday gifts for the kids, like arts, crafts, games and tech, you’ll have money left over for some new board games to boost the kids confidence. Ah, you won again. Or that multi voice changing megaphone so you can really spread the cheer. Happy holidays. Oh, what fun it is to save Black Friday week starts on November 21 with new deals added every day
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So essentially, Tamra was a French I think she was very much encouraged to apologize for this, these remarks that she made on Watch What Happens Live when she said that Vina 16 makes more money than the money the amount of money that Ryan stole from the baseball team, which we know that 16 million was stolen from Otani. But never had there been any thing that I had heard that said Ryan stole it. It was that money somehow ended up in his account for gambling. But nothing in that I read it anywhere said anything about Ryan. It was the interpreter who stole it. So tamraz un Watch What Happens Live. She makes this wild statement about Ryan. Andy was very quick. I have no knowledge of Ryan stealing anything. And then we heard, since he’s a federally protected witness, it’s not just an issue of him being able to sue for slander. It’s bigger than that. And again, I’m not an attorney. Amanda’s not an attorney. So we can’t explain it exactly, but Tamara has just been unhinged. Would you agree with that, Amanda, I would 100% agree with that. I’ve been saying this since the beginning. It we know that when she was not asked back to OC there was a lull in her career, and then she started the podcast, and then she was asked back, and then she was booming. She’s got OC ven is doing well. She’s got her podcast, tons of spin offs, traders podcast spin offs. She produces some new housewives spin off she’s doing very well, and the reunion is filming this Sunday. My recommendation to you, Miss judge, is go in there and just be a little bit low key. Let Shannon and Alexis hash it out. Let Gina and Heather and Katie take a back seat a little bit. You’re doing too much, and you have essentially an empire that the problem is. It’s all about who’s going to tune into you, right if people turn on you to the point where they don’t want to buy your VENA products, and that the scary thing with that is the CBD has become more popular, and people don’t want to tune into your podcasts. You know what I’m saying? This could really have a ripple effect. And I think that if she was smart, she would hire some crisis PR management, yeah, to coach her ahead of the reunion. My prediction is that. I don’t know if this is my prediction, but what I think she should do is apologize to Ryan, back down. You don’t need you need to make him feel like you’ve done enough publicly where he’s not going to really hurt you and sue you. Yeah, because he doesn’t want to waste money on that, I’m sure, and I would imagine, too, whatever is going on with that whole Ryan Otani and whatever situation is probably not something that he really is wanting to keep the conversation going on about. Because even when let’s when somebody just say a complete I’m giving a completely different situation, your car gets stolen and it’s part of a crime like you still feel like, even though you’re you have zero to do with it, your car crime was committed against you. It’s still like a very unpleasant, it’s unpleasant, right? And it had nothing to do with you as a person, but you still feel involved, right? And I can imagine it’s just not something that he wants to continue to talk about. I think Tamara, what she does very well is she is good at storing the pot. I think she is good at some of the shade, I think screaming at somebody who just went through a terrible breakup and made us really stupid, almost unforgivable mistake of driving drunk and really just stomping on them when they’re down is just not it’s it’s not okay, and I think that’s really backfired. I don’t think anybody can really understand why Tamara and Alexis are friends. I still don’t get it if her husband, if somebody’s husband, sued me and for a lot of money and tied up hundreds of 1000s of dollars of money, I don’t it, just it, that part has never made sense to me. So yeah, I yeah, I suspect that.
Somehow distances herself from Alexis at the reunion. I think knowing Tamara, her intuition would be to completely turn her back on her. I don’t think that’s the smart thing to do. People are too on to her. I think more just don’t stick up for Alexis. Let her speak for herself. Yeah, Shannon situation now with the Love Hotel host saying she was a nightmare. So there’s a whole other layer leading up to this reunion. So I really thought that at the reunion, Tamara was gonna come in and turn against Alexis. And now Shannon’s situation is the sort of thing that might puff Tamara up right, if Tamara is allowed to bring it up, which I don’t know, because that host, Joel Kim who brought it up, probably shouldn’t have. But if Tamara’s allowed to bring it up, she shouldn’t, she shouldn’t bring up. She should not slam she really shouldn’t slam anybody. She should go in there and talk about doing some self reflection, make up some shit about her going through a personal rough time, like she’s got a shit look. I had a lot of time in bed because I just had my face lift, and had a lot of time to think about this, and I don’t like the way I acted. Yes, that’s what she should do. She should say, I’m sorry to Ryan, while I’m not a fan of yours, I know nothing about your legal situation, I should have never commented. I was just mad at you for speaking poorly about me and my husband, and I wanted to say something to hurt you, and I shouldn’t have done it. It’s not true, done there. Turn to Shannon and say, for many years, you and I have had a very weird relationship, and I was sick of your drinking. I took it too far. It wasn’t my place to judge you. Show so harshly. End it there. Alexis, don’t talk about how great her and John are together. I don’t think she will. I will say this, though I’m not allowed to post it, but I thought Alexis would be gone. I hear them, even with her, like, blaming production on editing. I hear they want her back. Oh, god, that’s the word. I really love to say that guys, but
it was so funny, I didn’t ask me anything. And they were like, who is who from the whole Bravo lab universe. Are you surprised that got famous from Bravo? And I’m like, even people that I don’t personally love, I can see why we’re interested in them, or we want to watch them, and why they become a well known person from the network, right? Alexis is somebody who I’m like, there is. There’s just nothing interesting about her. Yeah, I am. I’m not under her. You guys know, we can all be mad at Tamara, but Tamara is a feisty thing, like she by the way, I meant to, how do you meant to put this with you guys? We have some notes and stuff that we just so we remember to curious, did you watch Eddie’s face when they’re at that dinner. He looks, oh my god, like miserable, like he was being held captive. I was like, blink twice, if you’re okay. He looked physically sick because he or like he’d been up all night. A lot of people are asking, they’re saying that all season, he doesn’t look well. So, you know, he’s okay. I have no idea, God willing, he’s okay. But what? Wait, Amanda, something we totally skipped over. What about him telling I believe Katie’s husband’s name is Matt. Cut her off, yeah, could you I cannot imagine like me another I the best way to get me that I am not you. They tell me I can’t do it.
I am not saying there has never been a time where my husband privately whispered to me like, all right, you should slow it down. Okay? I’m not gonna say that privately. I’ve done it to him. He’s done it to me, rightfully so. Vice versa, whatever, if my husband ever told some husband, I mean, their acquaintances cut her off. I just, I don’t know. I am telling you, watching him, he, I 100% believe I made this story up in my head, guys, but I 100% believe that he absolutely did not want to go, that he and Tamara thought about this because she’s, I’m a housewife. You have like, I have to film with my family. I can’t just keep filming with my daughter. You have to come for this. He looked like he was being held prisoner. Okay, but what about when she stormed off? She was seemingly mad at Eddie, and she was like, she said something like, I’ve had enough of it, because she stormed off and he didn’t follow her, and then she fell down the stair. I also just find it so rich. And I am not saying Tamara has a drinking problem. I don’t believe she does. I think that she probably doesn’t drink. I don’t want to say she doesn’t drink, and I don’t I I think that she likes to drink as much as the next person, and I think she probably does drink more during filming. But so whether you’re an alcoholic or not, because those are two separate things. If when you drink, and I don’t believe she has a dependency on alcohol, but when she drinks, she is a supreme asshole, that’s probably too agreed. And maybe it’s only when she’s had too much to drink and she’s on camera, maybe she’s sweet as pie when cameras are not.
Around, and she’s had a few drinks, but I just, I don’t know it doesn’t I don’t know they and I just, there’s something there going on, like, with Eddie, and yeah, i Whoever said, yeah, they’re wondering if he has health problems. I’m like, Oh, now that I think about it, he hasn’t. So I hope everything is okay. But, and could that be why she’s really stressed out and she can’t say it. They don’t want to say it. God forbid. I hope that’s not the case. I just have to say, imagine somebody who just got a DUI and a accused money launderer of looking better than Alexis and Tamara. Like Alexis and Johnny Jackass have made it easy for someone with a DUI to get a good at it and and because Jen and Jenny is like, such a sweet person, and Tamara is acting. So just mean, there’s no other word for what, yeah, just across the board. Mean, yeah, I agree. Black Friday week starts November 21 and so are amazing deals at Amazon. You’ll save so much on early holiday gifts for the kids, like arts, crafts, games and tech, you’ll have money left over for some new board games to boost the kids confidence. Ah, you won again. Or that multi voice changing megaphone so you can really spread the cheer Happy Holidays. Oh, what fun it is to save Black Friday. Week starts on November 21 with new deals added every day you
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wait, we got to get into this whole love hotel. My gosh. Okay, so Joel Kim booster, who I actually know who he was. He actually did a show with Chrissy Teigen and David Chang the chef, where they would go and go to these different restaurants and speak with the chef and have a meal, and there would be another celebrity guest, which I actually really enjoyed that show, because I love food, but he seemed very charming and sweet. So he was and he has also been on Watch What Happens Live. So he’s in Andy’s orbit. So he Joel Kim booster, apparently, is hosting love hotel, this dating show that we was called like, I don’t know what it was called before, but we are calling it like the golden, golden whatever. So we know Shannon, Luanne, I’m forgetting Ashley Darby and somebody else. We’re gonna go Cynthia, Bailey, Giselle, that’s right, yeah. So anyway, so Joel Kim, so I guess the show just wrapped a week ago. Goes on social media, does a live and set goes off on Shannon saying that she was abusive to the crew, that she was terrible to work with, etc. Immediately, people were sending all of these screenshots to me and shout out to Bravo her story. And I think she posted first. That’s where I first saw it. And then I went to my DMs, and I was like, Whoa, what’s happening? I even I heard some really unsavory stuff about Shannon, which you never know, but Shannon has been in the Bravo sphere for a decade, and so when all of a sudden there are claims of racism and stuff, it’s very surprising. So he really laid into her, yeah, then I’m getting emails and messages from people who know him saying he’s not a good person. I have to say the host of the peacock show attacking one of the stars bad luck. Apparently, he’s they’re saying he’s had a shitty okay, we get an email and it says, I’m just gonna sum it up quickly. He’s rude, nasty, ego maniac, not one nice thing. Maybe, instead of attacking someone publicly for similarities he fails to see in himself, maybe the housewife is marrying something he sees in his in himself, deflection, party of one. So to me, what’s most surprising about this is people knew him. I could.
Vaguely remember him and watch what happens live, but certainly he’s not well known to Bravo fans, right? So you get this opportunity. An insider told me that, as a matter of fact, him and Matt Rogers are two people that they tapped as the future in Bravo. Whatever that means, whatever that looks like. Why on earth would you ruin it by like you just forgot to show you’re new here. Yeah, know your role. I also hear that it may have been skiing and snowing and yeah, because it was after the rap party, here’s my here’s the thing that I was always very skeptical about this situation. When this, all this kind of came out a week ago. How are you if you are somebody who is on a show and you’ve been on another show where production is in your house and they are filming all the time, like, how can you be such a complete monster and terrible person to work with all the time for 10 years and keep being asked back on the show. I’m like, I just don’t write. I believe this. And you guys know I, like, have always stuck up for Shannon, but like, I just don’t think if you’re a complete asshole, like, first of all, like, why would they even let her keep doing it within the confines of filming in Cabo? But then why would they keep asking her back on a show for 10 years? It just doesn’t make sense to me. I think they maybe, too didn’t get along, and I think he said some I don’t know. I just, I don’t, it doesn’t add up to me.
Listen, I don’t doubt that. If Shannon doesn’t like you, she can be an effing bee. And maybe she didn’t like him, and maybe she didn’t like whomever he claimed to be sticking up for. But whatever the case may be, it’s just not a good look for him. And to your point, somebody else in production would have let the cat out of the bag a long time ago. If she was that much of a nightmare, Tamara would have let the cat out of the bag. We also got an email with some exclusive scoop about love hotel. If you don’t want spoilers, fly ahead 30 seconds. If
you don’t want spoilers, you’re not listening to us. Cynthia Bailey filmed however, she did not date. I don’t know if that was by choice. She didn’t like the pool of men, or she just isn’t dating, which doesn’t make sense if you’re in a dating show. Ashley Darby dated both men and women.
Two male Bravo labs were potential bachelors. I have to find out more about that. I got to ask my sources. Lot of drama between the housewives themselves, Luanne versus Giselle. That’s going to be good, hmm. And then they had a lot of actors at the hotel. Remember, after the ultimate girls trip, everybody loved Pepsi. We found out that, obviously, Pepsi is not a famous, not a famous actor, but he is an actor. So yeah, of course, a lot of times the people who are the waiters on the show or whatever, end up being actors, and we do know they were scrambling to cast. So maybe even some of the men were actors. I think Luanne and Giselle are quite capable of turning somebody from an actor to a potential. I agree.
What if he had, what’s his name, Joey bottles. Come on as one of the bachelors.
Oh, that would have been that’s totally possible. Wait, he hooked up with, right? That’s what I’m saying. We, we had that God use I see? Oh, my God, can you imagine? I hope it is something like that. Side note, I was told that Luanne is dating somebody and just went on the show just because she doesn’t turn down it she, yeah, that’s too funny. Also, I don’t think Luanne would turn down a romp either. It’s, no, I love Leanna.
Okay, the other thing we cannot before we end, we gotta go to the bathroom. We’ve got to so craziest news came out, really yesterday, that Jax is representing himself in the divorce, that he filed paperwork by himself, without an attorney that said he gives Brittany full legal and physical. So guys, the difference between legal and physical. Physical means like you’re you know the the main caretaker parent. Legal also means you make all the decisions where the child goes to school, if the child needs braces. Doesn’t need braces if the child any kind of medical decisions. So essentially, he’s seeding all of the parenting to Brittany. But then also checked the box that says they were never legally married. Okay? So he tried to then come out and say, because dopey Jacks probably doesn’t realize that once he files this paperwork, it’s public. It’s going to get sent to all the Bravo accounts, as it did. We got it immediately, so he’s playing it like it’s all an error. However, what a source close to us, what a source close to them shared with us, is that.
But Jax is, in fact, giving full custody to Brittany because, according to this person, she wants her son to have a relationship with his father, and because they both have busy legal schedules. And I’m sure, because he is not exactly
steady,
she probably figures when he wants to see Cruz, he can see Cruz, but I will maintain full legal custody. And I think that, listen, we can tease Jacks all we want. I think that his mental health issues are a real thing. I think that we know that he’s been battling a lot of demons, not just mental health, and I think that he’s probably doing the best thing in his mind for his son, and maybe he doesn’t want to publicly be shamed for giving full custody, but maybe somewhere in his mind he just knows it’s the best thing. Yeah,
I guess so from the child’s perspective, as they grow up, for them to I think it’s gonna color the way grow Cruz grows up, and it’s I just, while the agreement now, as you can see him, whenever you want, it’s I just, I don’t know. I just worry that it’s gonna he also did this without an attorney. So maybe when, hopefully, he gets an attorney now, and maybe when he does that, the attorney explains, listen, it’s better if you don’t legally do this, yeah, because I just, you would like to think, and I understand that they both have, like, crazy schedules, and, like, you can totally trade once you have a legal schedule, right? Like, as long as the parents agree it’s not, like, there’s going to be any kind of authority that’s no you’re supposed to have him on Tuesdays, and even though you have this work thing, and I think Jack’s trust Brittany, and knows that no matter what happened, I think Jack, Jack may trust Brittany more than he trusts himself. In other words, let her be the one to make the decision. If I’m not in my right mind and I’m demanding my son, maybe he wants to be in a position where she can deny him, and I don’t know if he’s got enough insight or if he’s a big enough person, but if he is, it’s the best thing he’s ever done. If that’s the case, I guess. But I just hope that he continues with his intentions of seeing his son regularly, and that it doesn’t become like I see him twice a week and now becomes once a week, and then it becomes once a month, and then it becomes once a quarter. You know what I mean? I just that is where I’m, like, my heart is just like, breaking a little bit for the little boy, because I’m just really hoping that’s not how it ends up. And there’s nothing that says that it has to. It’s just, but I don’t think it will be Brittany doing. No, I’m not saying that. I think that at all. I’m saying I hope Jax continues with his intentions to see him all the time.
Yeah, it’s sad. It’s very sad. And
I don’t know, I don’t know what to say about it. I think that, sadly, it can very much turn into a situation, and since they’re on TV, it changes the dynamic, because he’ll have to always answer for it, because they’re public figures. But I think if they weren’t on TV, it could easily turn into a situation where he does see his son less and less due to his mental health and his own struggles and his quite frankly, you can call it mental health, you can call it what you want, but when you don’t properly treat it. There is selfishness there when you’re a parent, and I can see it where Brittany’s young and she’s beautiful, and Cruz is young, and she remarries, and whomever she marries becomes that that little boy’s father figure, and in 20 years, Jax is calling and hoping that he can have a relationship. And I hope that doesn’t happen, but it’s sadly. I know it happens, and Jack seems like somebody could happen with and the other thing I just thought of too, if Brittany ends up having full legal custody, she gets to be the one to decide whether Cruz is on camera or not. She has sole decision making on that, yeah, and we know he was dealing with some developmental delays, so she may decide she doesn’t want to showcase that. Yeah, I hope, yeah. I hope they’re all doing okay. It just divorces hard. Divorces
infinitely hard when there’s kids involved. So Big hugs,
yes, even to Jax. We’re
gonna get into this UN cocktail part, just so you guys know, because I can’t tell a lie, our internet I somehow got kicked off. Even though I’m home, hooked up to my internet, I really am never gonna I’m gonna need, like a man’s gonna move in and sit next to me because I don’t know what I’m doing. So we’re gonna edit it, and it’s gonna be fine and whatever. But if it’s a little blotchy, that’s why we’re gonna continue this on the cocktail pod, which I would like to say, welcome to all of our new cocktails. A lot of new people joining. Always, a lot of new people joining. But you guys have messaged me and you’ve been like, Wow, your cocktail pods are freaking juicy and they are.
Are guys. They are. They are. We don’t just say it, so we’re gonna get more into it. But I posted about this, and I’m hearing from other people after I posted that it’s true. Miami, the new woman, who I just announced is filming, is Dr Nicole’s fiance Anthony’s ex girlfriend. Here’s the thing, I don’t know it seems odd to me, because they love Nicole so much that they would bring this woman on. In my head, I’m like, maybe when Nicole said she was taking a step back, they then brought this woman on. Because I’m hearing that aside and apart from the fact that it’s Anthony’s ex, she’s a very interesting woman who has a lot of really crazy stuff going on, which cocktail pod wild, but it’s pretty messed up. If I don’t think it’s the reason. But imagine if Dr Nicole was like, I’m not filming with her, and that was the reason. I The second that you told me, of course, that was the thought of my head. Does that make is that why she did decide to drop out, and I gotta say, I’m not surprised Anthony. See Anthony is with Nicole. He likes smart women who are multi dimensional, so it doesn’t surprise me one one bit that his ex is an interesting, dynamic person. Agreed. We love you guys as always, thank you for listening. We know there are so many podcasts, and the fact that you choose us every week is not lost on us, and we appreciate each and every one of you. Thanks guys. Till next time.
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