80. Bravocon After Thoughts; A Theory About a Miami Couple; Southern Charm Love Quadrangle

We are so happy to welcome our guest, Ally from @bravo_after_thoughts_ this week! She’s back from Bravocon and is ready to debrief on all of the fun and to spill some eyewitness tea. We get Ally’s thoughts on Kyle and Mauricio, PK and Dorit, and why she thinks Sutton was a great casting decision on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Miami continues to be FYAH and did Larsa commit a HIPAA violation? We have a little theory about Alexia and Todd’s relationship. Ally’s got thoughts on the Juan Dixon of it all and we speculate on the power dynamic in his relationship with Robyn. Could this be Southern Charm’s best season yet? Besides the Taylor/Shep/Olivia/Austen love quadrangle, B’s got some opinions about Taylor and we want to hear from you – do you agree? Happy Thanksgiving to the Cocktailers!

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tape. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com. And as always, it’s all alleged and just for fun. We do not verify our blinds. B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tip
What’s up cocktail errs Haycock Taylor’s you guys we are so excited to have our friend Ali, who runs the Bravo afterthoughts account here with us today. Hello. Thanks for joining me. Hi, Ally. I’m so excited. You haven’t been here in a while. Me too. I know. We have plenty to catch up on right. Oh, I don’t we may be here all day. I think so too. Well, and Rob show ally it was at Bravo con. So she has told us that she there is nothing off topic that we can’t discuss from what she saw and heard while she was there. Yeah. So we’re going to talk that and then some of this week’s show so super excited to have you. Yeah, me too. Honestly. I’m just I’m ready to talk some Bravo you know, if you hear ambulances, we’re all safe.
alleys in Manhattan. So fatal flaw of living in Manhattan. Everyone. That and paying $8 million a month in rent? Oh, yes. And that’d be an understatement. So a little bit off topic. But Ali, you probably noticed this. So I noticed that Ali not Zarin Jill’s Aaron’s daughter Ali. I can’t think of her last name right now. Shapiro. Shapiro. was yeah, it was posting complaining about Manhattan rent, which I mean, we all know, it’s very expensive, but I couldn’t help but be like, girl, aren’t you and trust me of all. Like, I just like I can’t imagine someone like her having that much of an issue with it. You know? I don’t Yeah, I’m surprised she even rents like, I know. Yeah, me too. I guess a lot of people run over because, you know, who knows what the turnover is gonna look like who knows if they’re gonna be rats in your apartment? You know? That’s true. I also it leads me to believe that once she settles down and she’s been seeing this guy for a couple years now. I feel like since mom’s full time in Florida, I feel like she’s young. She’s doing the Manhattan thing. And then I bet you when she gets married and start a family, she’s going to move down with mom probably that makes sense. I mean, they settled down to the suburbs when they have kids and stuff.
be near her mom, you know? Yes. Okay, so Bravo con. So what where it was in Vegas this year, Ali and I were together last year in New York. And we had the best time. But everybody’s saying they loved Vegas. So I know the flight and the cost and all that since you live in New York. Sorry. But what was the best part of just being? Bravo calm being in Vegas? And what do you think the pros or cons are? For? Sure, honestly. So I did both I did last year and I did in New York and I did this year in Vegas. I didn’t go to the first Bravo con, but from the to I mean, there was no comparison on how it was run, how efficient it was in Vegas. I mean, that’s obviously Vegas is thing, right? You know, they do conventions, they have this down to a science etc. Right. But it is, of course, you know, the flight across the country for a short window of time, I also took a red eye home. So I mean, the labor of getting myself there was my pit. But you know, the pitch was how well it ran. You know, there was no lines for you had to register for photo ops, you weren’t just waiting there for three hours and don’t get a picture. There was seating for everyone the VIP had priority seating better closer to the stage and the general had, you know, further from the stage, but everyone had a seat like there was no fighting for seats just and you know, what was fun of Vegas? I mean, I’ve never been there, but just making it the activity that you know, I traveled to go to Bravo con on my flight. I sat next to someone on the Loverboy team. So it was like that camaraderie I really enjoyed. First of all, what is the Loverboy team hiring you? Because you always are like, you end up I know that you’re invited to a lot of their events, but you also end up at places where like, you see them and they’re like, oh, what’s up Ali from Bravo. And now I didn’t realize you sat with them, too. Isn’t that funny? And she was like, she was telling someone else like, oh, yeah, I work at a company that’s doing Bravo car. I’m like, Oh, I run the account. Bravo. After that. She’s like, Oh, I run Loverboy. I’m like, Oh, you sent me a package last week.
I love it. I love it. A funny story with that, though, is so my birthday was about a month ago. And we’ve had this place lined up. For my friends and I we have the same birthday open bar, whatever. I didn’t know. But I had John Mayer that night. Yeah, I know. Exactly. It would have been fun because it also became, you know, the manager of the bar that I had been in touch with that we had rented, you know, told me about a week before. He’s like some good news. Kyle cooks actually doing an appearance here that day. It was earlier in the day, but they’re like, you know, he might still hang around. Like, we walk in all my friends were like, Oh my God, he’s still.
So that was fun. No, I literally and it was just so funny, because they were like, only Ali would have someone from brava the birthday party just offhand. So
Kismat so if you had to pick do you think you’d prefer it in New York or Vegas? I would prefer to New York logistically standing. I just also think, like, my issue with Vegas is that there were so many different, like, it’s very big, there are so many different places to get Ubers. And, you know, they have a lot of rules with that. Because obviously, like there’s a lot of drunk people so like, you can’t just pick up an Uber from the side of the road. It has to be at a ride SharePoint.
Which got like an airport. Yeah, like an airport. That’s exactly how I was describing it. So I mean, that got tricky and frustrating after a long day in these large hotels casinos, like with the almost dead phone, you know, I just felt like Manhattan is conducive to it, but Vegas was conducive to the convention itself. I totally I can totally see that. And also your feet are killing you. You’re pretty drunk half the time yourself. And now you’re like, walking to the other side of Caesar’s Palace for an Uber. Bingo. Bingo. So I like New York. But it was really great in Vegas, the Bravo gone itself. So tell us about who were some of the standout Bravo liberties that you met, honestly, like so that was also I know, be when you were there. You were in the SBI P lounge and you were like, That’s the move like this year, the VIP lounge like it wasn’t as VIP so I was in the VIP lounge. I kind of camped out there because I was like they have three brown celebrities in here at all times. It’s air conditioned. There’s drinks, and there’s past apps like sign me up. Yes. So I got a chance to talk to so many of the brava labs, especially Friday because I don’t think people caught on to how great the lounge was until Saturday Dorie was lovely, she’s fantastic. She generously gave me a ticket for the weekend. So I waited in her line to you know, talk to her. She was fantastic. Amanda and Whitney from Salt Lake are Amanda from summerhouse. They are always so so so nice. They remember everyone very humble. They stuck out Monica
Angie from Salt Lake I know there are numerous they’re probably like really excited about the fans. They were fantastic like their their handlers were trying to push them along for how nice and talkative they were being to every person who wanted a picture with them. I love hearing the people that are nice and I have to tell you so I think I told you like in our chat, Amanda and I have the woman who works who does our ads for the podcast. Oh, of course, you know, because the ticket directory hooked her up with a ticket. Lovely. She was you met her right Tracy and her yes. So lovely. She got videos from everyone and Whitney’s sent like the nicest video and of course I posted it and everyone who follows me wrote like, oh my god be Don’t you feel like an asshole that you always talk shit about her? And I’m like, Yes, I do. And actually this season, Amanda and I both are liking her a lot more and knowing now that she’s because you’ve said it and people who met her at Bravo calm like knowing that she’s really a nice person in real life does change my opinion of her 100% I agree with you because it really like I remember when Kyle Cook was like being drunk and mean to Amanda online, but I was like, but I’ve met him in person. He’s so nice, like and personable. Like, you know, it really does change the opinion because you know, who knows what the camera what that brings out on them. But you know, I appreciate the real life stories. I know that you’re probably not one that’s going to want to say but is there anyone who stood out as not being nice or unapproachable? You know, this year, I did not encounter anyone that was not approachable. I don’t know if that was because it was in the VIP lounge, like there was like a little bit less, you know, people pouncing on them type thing. I will say last year, when we went to the GaNS of where they were staying after, you know, while they were in and out of their hotels trying to get pictures with people. Erika Jayne, of course, she was in a very different position in her life. She had the stone cold face, quiet and just walked right into the hands of or didn’t even give a wave to the fans nothing. But this year, I had the total opposite experience, which, you know, I got a picture with her. She was lovely. I that probably also, you know, had to do with the place of her life that she was in last year versus this but right, that was my 360 at least. Okay, yeah, I’m sure last year she was feeling like God knows what people are gonna say to her and you know, by that point wanting to go and go into the hotel so it’s good to hear I like to hear a little redemption story like that. Like be and I have been feeling about Whitney. Definitely, it makes a difference right? And I have to say, you know, all the feedback I got last year I remember getting like this one was unapproachable or whatever. This year. Nobody really had any of that to say so I also think what you’re saying is very true. In New York, they were like walking in the same holes like they were on it and I feel like Vegas because like you said it’s this is what they do conventions there was a lot more of them getting time to themselves and like only coming out on their scheduled times which makes a difference. I agree with you like it’s kind of like they have their rest period and they know when they need to be like in appearance mode talking to fans, etc etc. Exam is last year I know I mean granted I was in the VIP lounge more than like in the Bravo bizarre but last year I remembered a lot of like the talent handlers having to literally shield them from people jumping at them like just walking through this year. I didn’t see as much of that granted, you know, people still cheer people still run towards whatever but it just seemed more of a controlled environment, in my opinion.
Did you see anything like that you have any crazy stories or late night like fun, wild, crazy nights that you can tell us about? So I went to the Bravo’s the watch what happens live taping which was fantastic. I was hesitant to go at first and then I was like, You know what? I’m here. This will be fun. It was like a 9pm showing. And I mean, I actually didn’t watch the episode back on peacock. So I kind of like don’t know how they played this out. But when Andy had you know, the Orange County the former Orange County gretchin Alexis Laurie and Joe come out. Alexis just really kept trying to steal the spotlight and was like literally like talking over everyone and Andy literally cut in twice and was like Alexa stick to the strip, stick to the strip, whatever blah, blah, blah trying to like rush her along because she was trying to have her moment it was like so awkward and cringy and funny for everyone in the audience. So that’s really funny that you say that because somebody DM me and of course you never know if it’s Alexis his friend or if it’s like a real person who spotted her. And the person said, I spotted a Lexus in the airport. She was so nice. But she told me when I asked her that she would not be returning but look for her on something else. And then a source right so
Somebody who’s in the world messaged me. And they were like, This is the joke of all jokes. She’s dying to be back on. And if she’s asked, she’d come back in a heartbeat. So I started to think whoever DM me was like her friend who wanted me to put that out there so that people would think she wasn’t thirsty, for sure. For sure. It was funny too, because when I was leaving, that I saw of them getting into, you know, their cars and whatever. And they were, they were chatting up, they wanted to take pictures with anyone who was walking near them, which, you know, I appreciate at least in these situations, because I would really not like it if they weren’t taking pictures with people, but you could tell that they were loving at all four of them. And I think that if you’re inclined to like that kind of attention, and it goes away, it must be fun for them to have it back. Agreed. I totally agree with you. Especially something like Bravo con. Yeah. What about the panels because I heard a lot of feedback. The panels were great. Like it was great to see everybody but like last year, they were very messy. And we see in this the seasons that are out now, a lot of the conflicts stem from like an OC it was something that happened there were a bunch of shows where people said things on panels and then they thought about it on the show.
It seemed that the panels were much more PG rated this year. I think that the reality reckoning which is nonsense, and it’s funny that somebody just posted deadline posted today that the viewership on Bravo is like the highest it’s been in a couple of years which is a combo of it’s right after Bravo Khan and I think it’s also maybe people are like hey, none of this reality reckoning don’t take our shows off you know, yeah, but did you feel that way like with the panels kind of like an
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yeah I you know I did I did a good amount of panels there definitely were less panels on the schedule as opposed to last year like you’ll notice that they had like talent on like five different panels like this there probably weren’t I only did Friday and Saturday but like there probably weren’t even 10 panels for those two days. So I think they were a little bit more intentional which is why maybe there was less combustion I really liked the winner House panel I thought they were really good with like playing off of each other granted you know it’s a younger cast with like just being you know, one season of these people together. It’s not like you know, Jersey that has a long standing history. So I thought that panel was actually really good. I thought they bounced off of each other I thought they kind of got messy. They were like making fun of Brian like they were talking about Alex and Danielle with winter house blah, blah, blah Schwartz Katie flood some of the other panels. I thought were kind of blah. What were Katie and Schwartz like do we think because we we got an email and the email said that to Bravo labs from different shows that had a fling in the past hooked up. So like okay, it could be Austin and Lindsay, but we also here she’s with Dustin Lynch, although a source just messaged me today so everyone keep your ears open because I’ll be posting
that they heard Lindsay’s with somebody else, not Dustin Lynch. I mean, she’s single. So who knows? But do you think that Katie flood and Schwartz like maybe rekindled? Or were you not able to tell based on the panel or, you know, I will say I was at the Weiner house premiere party probably about a month ago, and I could see it from that maybe, you know, they were all like drinking out together in Manhattan. They were sitting, you know, roughly in the like, the talent was sitting sort of in these like high atop booths, like a little bit elevated from the rest of the party, they were sitting within the same section, if not next to each other. I don’t remember. So I could see that they definitely like seemed that they had a banter enough that they keep in touch. So I didn’t notice as much from Bravo con, but they weren’t sitting next to each other on that panel, which I feel like you can’t tell body languages as much, you know. Okay. And now all of this speculation with Cory and Sam. So we saw her post flowers from Gabby. And it sounded like a breakup, although a lot of my followers were like, no, maybe it’s because it was the day that winter house was airing and in that episode, the new girl the blonde Casey, I want to see Yeah, like, kind of insults her so maybe Gabby was showing support for that. But I don’t know if they had the wording on that card where she’s like, you can buy yourself flowers like that. So I thought that was a very clear mention of the Miley song which is a break it’s a break up song. Hmm. i That’s i It’s hard to it’s hard to read that any other way. I think I agree with you. Honestly. I was confused by that too. Because also back to that winter House panel. Like Sam wasn’t on the panel but she was sitting in the audience and forget who the moderator was off the top of my head it might have been se cup and she like was like a Sam here. And then they like signaled to Sam and she stood up and waved and like seemed happy. So I mean, who knows? It wouldn’t surprise me if it was a breakup or if that’s a good point that you mentioned about the episode because I did watch the episode. And Casey’s basically just saying like, Oh, you know, I have mutual friends with her. They all say she’s trash. They say she’s trash. And then Cory like, confronts her saying, you know, you don’t even know her why are we talking about stuff talking about her? So, which I liked you did that and I think Casey’s kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Casey rubs me as somebody who wants to come off really cool, but actually is a trihard Yeah, I can see that. I used to kind of feel that way about Danielle from summer house. I don’t anymore but in early seasons, I felt that way. And that’s how I feel about Casey, she sort of whatever it for me, but with Corey, I’ve gotten so many DMS that he’s on. I don’t know if it’s Tinder or whatever dating app. I feel like they’re together but I feel like she’s probably suspicious a lot and rightfully so. Yeah, honestly, I don’t that he’s one of those guys that it could literally go in nine different directions and none of them would particularly surprise me you know? Exactly wasn’t wearing a pearl or diamond necklace. Oh yes. He loves that diamond necklace. So so many shows airing Beverly Hills, Miami Potomac married to medicine. Let’s start with Beverly Hills. There’s so much happening on screen and even more happening in the rumor mill. What are your thoughts on the Kyle Emery CEO of it all? Honestly, it’s like such a whirlwind. I feel like we went through a lot of emotions especially you know, when we first had that breaking tabloid and then it’s like, we’re hearing rumors then it’s like, is it Morgan the music video the separation and when she then the Dancing with the Stars, like, I can’t keep up and honestly, the whole thing is sad. I just from watching, you know, the first few episodes of the season so far, she seems like she’s just they’re just not into each other anymore, for lack of a better way to phrase it. She also to me, I think watching her like, of course you felt we felt sad when it happened. But this whole idea that she’s like with Morgan and all of that I thought maybe most recently, I think that it’s not romantic, but she also seems okay, so we’re seeing her sober and clear headed, which would put her in a good space, but she’s very clearly not in a good space. I even feel like she’s almost like super tense physically. And then like kind of like this weird physical energy. I don’t know if that’s her anxiety and not having I’m not saying she was ever like a drunk. But when you’re filming most reality stars drink more when they’re filming right and naturally loosens you in that moment. I don’t know her energy is so off for me. Yeah. And it’s, it’s like she’s concealing something like even when terete asked about her marriage, when the other women asked when they bring up the cheating like it’s very clear that she is concealing something and it’s something that the group knows and is like carefully like trying
I’m gonna make it a storyline but like respecting her boundaries. I agree. And also, I feel like the fact that Dory really came to like a sap of putting, you know, we’re together, we’re working through it. Sure there are hard times blah, blah, blah and Kyle’s kind of doing the opposite just kind of shows sort of everything that anyone had a hunch about. But like with BT PK injury, if they’re not separated, which I believe they are, if they’re not, why wasn’t he a Bravo con guys? I know, I was surprised by that, too. I mean, he’s got his own stuff, too. So that alone wouldn’t totally throw me off because he’s probably like, I don’t want to go or maybe PK does because he does seem to like the limelight but I don’t feel like that alone. But it’s like that, combined with so many of the other things definitely makes you question and I feel like the the rumors aren’t going away just because they said no, we’re not we’re not getting separated. For sure. I also feel like none, it would like if Kyler Murray to were still together and since you know, PK and Maritza were so close. Like, if that was a situation where like Kyle and Mo came and then PK didn’t come I would maybe think that’s a little bit weirder, because like they’re kind of a friend group. But to be honest with you, I don’t know of any of the Beverly Hills husbands to get there. I don’t remember. Rob Crystal’s husband being there granted, like I have no idea but there were no pictures of him. There was nothing you know, I get that. I think it’s I think it’s only because of the separation rumors. For sure. I would think if you’re saying you’re not separated, then you would make a public united front for sure. So I guess we’ll see. I don’t know. I’m hoping that we find out and the stupidest thing that I’ve heard. The stupid is rumor is people saying that we know Ellison. I don’t think it’s any mystery that there’s definitely financial issues going on there. But followers are saying that her hair being brown is because she’s broke. I’m like, Okay, everybody has enough credit on their credit card to dye their hair blonde like coming on. Also her hair stylists was with her abrazo ca and like her like a celebrity stylist. Her name is Justine Marshawn. She was the one taking all the pictures with that, that people were taking with Dori. So I must be close enough that he chewed color hair. I think I see. I think maybe when I saw her change her hair color. I’m like, maybe that’s because she’s like, you know, people when they go through an emotional time or a tough time in their lives will make a change, you know, to their hair color or get their hair cut or whatever. It could be that I could see that honestly kind of a little midlife crisis type thing. You know, I chopped my hair. And I so sprayed. Thank you so cute. I had extensions for a long time. And so when I took them out, it was like, kind of long, but not as long as my extensions and not as thick. So I chopped it into like, a cool Bob. And I swear to you, so many people at work are like I love your hair. But it’s like they’re like waiting for me to be like, Yeah, I’m going through a divorce or
it’s like they’re like kind of like, complimentary isn’t waiting for the next shoe to drop, like what’s going on with her? Because I agree with you, Amanda, like when you do a change like that. I’ll never forget my best friend when we were in high school broke up with her boyfriend and like we were on the phone all night, right. And that day her mom was driving us to school. So we weren’t on the phone all night. We were on the phone, like a little bit, whatever. And I go there and she had hair down her back and she had cut it. Remember, remember Drew Barrymore when she had that platinum blonde short hair in like the late 90s, early 2000s. She did her hair just like that it looked gorgeous. But when I tell you to shock like she had hair down her back, we were 716 or 17. Like as long as you know, since she was a kid and walking into a house and seeing her hair and it was platinum blonde. I was like, Okay, wow. I like it though. Yeah, like when people make a change a little bit daring. I’m not that ballsy. And then she got back together within the next day and it was kind of like
you try.
So let’s talk. Let’s talk about Miami. I feel like this was quite an episode. You know it had last week ended with Guardian Larissa sitting down to lunch, and then that’s where it started. is Gertie shares with Larissa that she has breast cancer? What about her say how do you know? How do you how do you know? Yeah, I know I guess my fortune teller told me. Do you guys think in the moment that Larissa did not believe? Gertie? I don’t think she believed her. Honestly. I think she was till i i watched that episode, actually this morning, like, and then when she kept saying how do you know how do you know? And she was like, how do you think I know? And she was like, Well, how was I supposed to know I’m like, Oh my God. That’s the point like
She didn’t share it because she was going through a rough time. And here you are braiding her eight. And she never got up and hugged her. I was like, How can somebody share? How can you as a human being, here’s somebody share this news and you’re sitting across from them at a small table and you don’t get up and you don’t hug the shit out of that person. And it was also like, immediately it was about her. How was I supposed to know. And then at the end, when they seemingly like made amends, she was like, I’m so relieved. We had this conversation. I’m so relieved. We’re not fighting anymore. It’s like, you shouldn’t be relieved right now. You should be very upset because your friend has breast cancer. And then when she immediately has over everyone, yeah, and the first thing out of her mouth to those two women who are in housewives, who are just her friend is I had the roughest day today. You like Nicholas. I just that was unacceptable. I never thought she had much to her. I always thought she was shallow. But now I’m like, and I don’t want to use the word narcissist. Because it’s like so overused, but she’s so self involved. It’s It’s shocking. And also, I’m just gonna say it, her throwing Marcus Jordan the party for being away for five days. It’s like she wants that Jordan money so frickin bad. Because I don’t care that he’s never bounced a ball in the NBA in his life. You know, he’s inheriting how many kids is Michael Jordan have two or three. Something like that. I have no idea. He’s inheriting boatloads of money. Oh, yeah. I mean, obviously his dad is very, very wealthy. So I mean, even if there were 10 Kids, you’d still have a lot. Speaking of boatloads, how about those boats? That Nicole and looking at? Wow, that was like, my mouth was kind of dropping as they were going through this. I’m like, Oh, my God, a million just for that boat. I mean, and I also, can you imagine what it costs to just fill that up? No gas.
He’s a personal injury lawyer. I have never really looked into it. But it has to be that he has one of these situations like in New York, there’s Salina and Barnes which now one of them is out. I think one passed, but they had split before then. And what that is, is like, you call and they farm it out to another law firm, like anywhere you call from anywhere in the state of New York, probably other states, too. And then they get a percentage. So it has to be something like that in Florida, where it’s just volume. And he’s just like, every day getting like a small percent of like 1000s and 1000s of settlements, how else unless he comes from family money, and we don’t know about it. Like, yes, they’re a doctor. She’s a doctor. And yes, he’s a lawyer, but they have real serious money. They’re rich, they’re really rich are rich honey.
And then you have Todd and Alexia who, to me, his whole disposition and demeanor is so uncomfortable and even last season, but even more so this season. And off. She looks pissed at him. They certainly look like their chemistry together is not vibing I’m gonna go out on a limb and not because I have any intel. Although she did make a comment on Watch What Happens Live about like all these housewives divorced, I should get off the show. I feel like next season it’s going to be a divorce storyline. It would not shock me something is no bueno there. I think Alexia she is like, I think she’s old school, like quote unquote, old school, right? Like the way that Teresa from New Jersey is like, I think she is I think she was furious at Todd for not and like very upset and sad that he didn’t come to the party. I think she is not happy. But I don’t think she will publicly show any dissent with her man either on camera or just in public because of that, right? So she she might be planning her exit, but you know, she’s not going to be doing that in front of him. And I just feel like, Todd just gives this slimy vibe to me. I feel like I just keep wandering and I just have this feeling. I keep wondering if he wasn’t honest with her about how successful he really is. You know, we just got that tea.
I think it was like last week it was last week saying that there was a fight at the airport coming back from Bravo Cohn between Alexia and Adrianna, about Alexia Todd not being honest about their finances. I don’t know I just had an interesting one. I know. We were told and I don’t know if she said it on the show when she has to move they were living in. That property they were living in is like the show property for a property that he rents out. So that fancy condo wasn’t theirs. They probably weren’t paying full rent, if any
Oh, wow. Yeah, I also thought it was weird. You know, when he goes to this other party for Marcus Jordan, and, you know, he’s saying, you know, I would have been there, but there were people on the guest list that I didn’t want to be around to me if I were Alexia and you know, I was planning a party for production and whatever. And I was giving them the back insight like, Why did I not push for it just being a girl’s event? And no husbands be there? Because if there were no husbands there, right, it wouldn’t. It wouldn’t be like a big deal at all that Todd wasn’t there or like, why didn’t she organize a ladies night at? Like a restaurant like, to me? That’s where I’m like, It’s very weird. Also, why didn’t he like, if he said, you know, he had something to do, and he actually couldn’t be there. But instead, he was literally just in the basement and then like, set it by two people as they were leaving, like, like, this is weird. And then he also blamed it on Adriana talking about his steps on number one. That’s definitely not the reason. It’s because he’s uncomfortable around Anthony and Dr. Nicole. He clearly is very incredibly jealous of Anthony’s success and wealth and intimidated by it. And I think that they don’t have the finances that Alexia at one time. And I somebody said, was it Marisol? Somebody said that her ex husband Herman didn’t have what people thought he had. But when they were married, she lived a very high, high on the hog. Okay. She lived in a fancy house, she had fancy things and all like that. So now she’s with the guy who appears to have normal wealth, where I’m not saying that Todd is desolate, like, yeah, I just think he’s a regular working guy who makes a couple of bills and by normal Miami standards, they can do nice dinners. They can live in a nice condo, they can do a couple of vacations a year, but when you’re around people like Larsa, who not only is she dating somebody very wealthy, she has a lot of that Pippin. Mani, Nicole and Anthony. Lisa, we know that she’s fighting to get her money but she always lived very high on the hog so it is interesting you know either even Julia has the Martina money
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and then there’s also guys like the fact that Alexa never said, hey, you know, this is not like we’re just living in here right now to showcase like, this is not our place. It hasn’t it was nothing of that. And so there was this weird pretense about like this lady of the manor kind of thing in that place and then the fact that they’re just going to have to move out and that they never said anything to start with. Just makes me think there’s something more there. I told
I agree with you. Honestly, I just I think where there’s smoke, there’s fire with a lot of these people on these shows. So I think everything you’re saying, especially like, where he made that, like, what do you guys think of that public video apology that Todd made tan me like, that seems like they were grasping for a spot of straws to be like, I thought it was embarrassing. And I think there was a point last season where Anthony Oh, in addition to his law, whatever owns a lot of properties. And Todd mentioned last season before the fight, that he spoke with Anthony about managing those properties, because that’s what Todd does, right. He’s a broker and he manages real estate. So I think that public apology personally, I think the intent behind it was so that Anthony would see that he really tried to forgive him and would hire him to manage the properties. And perhaps, Anthony said, Thank you for the apology, but did not give him the work with the properties. And that could be why Todd so pissed off. I did this embarrassing public apology, and yet I’m not managing all your properties. That kind of makes sense. I think we put this puzzle together. Yeah, honestly, I would think, because why else would you do an apology like that? So publicly? I mean, I know they’re on the show. And they were like, responding to what’s like in the public, but you know, still, and I feel like Alexia and Nicole are okay now. And if they’re okay, Nicole won’t come out at the reunion. Like I hope Alexia does something to fuck up with Nicole. So then Nicole, the reunion goes, Oh, please. You’re just pissed off because we didn’t hire Todd to manage our properties. How far along is Dr. Nicole? Like I hope they get her you know, filming before she’s for the reunion before she goes into labor. Oh, I don’t she far along at Bravo con. It didn’t look like she was that far along. Yeah. She wasn’t sure it was noticeable enough. Yeah. Like it was like small showing, you know not, but I can tell you with my second I showed. I mean, this is true for you. I showed sooner than with my first like with my first I was like, You really couldn’t tell if I were like a baggy. You know, close. You couldn’t tell until I was like 1920 weeks. But with my second. You could tell it like sooner. Like 14 weeks. I had a little so maybe she’s like 1416 weeks? Yeah, I would bet she’s at least you know, at least cuz she’s so slight to I would say she Yeah, she’s at least four months. Just because she just looks I mean, she has the tiniest little baby belly. She looks adorable. She is the most fantastic figure. She does. She does she looks great.
Did you girls watch married to medicine? I actually did watch the first episode. There’s two out now right? I only watched the first one the premiere? What do you think of Phaedra back in the game? I have to tell you I watched married to medicine back in the day and in the last couple of years I hadn’t. I think feature is amazing. The quad and her ex husband Dr. G and his new dopey fiance, Sweetie, sweetie. Yeah, I mean, it’s so great. I like the whole like insinuating that she’s a gold I said a drug dealer. A gold digger. So
Amanda, if you I know I don’t think you’ve watched yet, but I haven’t his new wife. It’s a month before now his new fiancee. Excuse me now. I guess it’s his wife. It’s the weddings a month away. Okay. She’s gotta be her late 20s. Ali, would you say? I think so. Yeah. Is he late? 50s. Early 60s. Yeah, that would be my guess. But who knows? He definitely looks like he may have gone to school with Yeah, you know, Peter Thomas. And I was gonna say he gives me Peter Thomas energy, for sure. Yeah, but like, he’s a doctor. So he’s not scamming, but that’s true. Well, we don’t know. Doctors can scam too. But anyway, so she’s complaining to him. Like, she’s basically a stay at home fiance, who’s in her 20s. And she’s complaining that he’s not involved in the wedding. And what I like about married to medicine is there’s no bullshit. They’re just like, What are you talking? He’s like, What are you talking about? Like, I make the money. You spend the money. This is our arrangement. It was hysterical. But she takes Phaedra and a couple other women with her to go dress shopping. Now you’re a month away. So clearly, you’re not really buying a dress. This is just a scene. And she has her friend there. So theater goes to the friend. How are you guys? Like how do you know each other? She goes, Oh, we met in a support group for women.
People with an age gap. So
she goes Oh, so you met like a sugar baby group. And the woman’s like, What do you mean? No. And she’s like, well, if you’re all in a group talking about how you date older men that’s they call you guys sugar baby.
It was just hysterical. And now a
And you have to catch up because week is sweet teas Bachelorette. Hmm. So these women basically all get together and they just abuse sweet tea. Like they tease her. They make fun of her, they call her a gold digger. And at the end, she’s like, Oh, you guys aren’t nice. And they’re like, whatever. Well, you’re, you’re, we’re friends with your husband. So you’re stuck with us. And she’s like, I don’t like this, and leaves. And then as she’s leaving, she’s got the tag on her clothes. So then they make fun of her for that. But then next week, she has a bachelorette party that they all throw for her. And she’s like, all excited. Like, yeah, look, they’re throwing me a Bachelorette, and freaking Phaedra brings quiet.
Really genius. This is why it’s fantastic television. Also, when she made the comment, I forget what they asked her that prompted her saying like, she basically said that she was with him for the money that she was like, oh, like I have access. What’s your favorite thing about him? Oh, that I have access to his credit card or something along those lines. You remember that? Right? So I was like, she’s just said she was a goat like, and now they’re calling her out for it. And she’s like, why would you think that I’m like, Well, you just said that your favorite part about him was the access to his money. And the other thing is that Phaedra asked him about a prenup. And one of the ladies came out and said, like recently that they didn’t sign one like Dr. G you deserve whatever. Yeah, uh, yeah, sweetie, I guess we’ll see with her. And
our podcast, everyone should sign a prenup, everyone, oh, my God. And then, and then Dr. G says to feed her. I just feed her such good television. That’s why they put her on traders. That’s why they got her on the show. He goes to her. And the great thing is feeders from Atlanta. So she really is friendly. Like she’s friends with that. Like she has relationships with these people. It’s not like they just throw her in. He goes she’s all women and features like all right, relax, like
I miss Vader. I did. She is good TV. Yes, she looks great, too. I like the blonde hair on her. Okay, let’s talk about Southern charm. Ally. I’m really curious to hear what you think about the Taylor. Olivia Austin. Love Triangle, whatever triangle square whatever it is. Yes. Southern charm I think is having a fantastic season. 10 out of 10 I’m really enjoying the season. I feel like they had their their time of a dip. But now they’re on their redemption tour. I think I almost like I cringe feeling bad for Taylor, because I can tell like she is a nice person. But like, clearly the fame, the cameras, the breakup, like it’s all like getting to her that like she was kind of an average girl like literally two years ago and now she’s getting herself wrapped up into these scandals that like she thinks she’s gonna have a big break. I happen to like both Olivia and Taylor. I think they’re nice girls. Of course we don’t have we haven’t known them as from the beginning like we’ve known chap and whatnot. So I think that Olivia is great. I think I don’t know why they’re like I it’s sad that they’re fighting over a guy because I think they could be both really successful on the show. But I do think like, Taylor will have her redemption season at some point, just not yet. I have to say that. Olivia is gangster. And when she said to Taylor was not expecting her to say I just I feel like you guys slept together. Did you see Taylor’s face she was like, no, because they did. Shep Shep said it. Nobody stops it kissing. I mean, Austin’s not snapping at kissing. Taylor’s not stopping at kissing. I believe that they probably slept together two, they’re both gonna deny it. And that’s basically what Olivia said. And Olivia knew in Taylor’s answer that they had because that’s why she left the house because they hadn’t. You can tell they really were friends. You could tell if your friend is lying to your face. She knew she was lying initially about like, whatever. But like it wasn’t she didn’t have proof. But now you have proof that this girl lied to your face. So if you think something happened, she’s just gonna lie to you about it. Yeah. And I just like, also the added awkwardness of it being like, you know, Taylor’s family home where she had to say hi to the parents, thank you for having her like, and the mom says you’re leaving already like it she of course had to like know that Taylor was lying in that moment. Because if she like if she didn’t, she would probably just suck it up for the night, you know? Yeah, you know, I see it a little differently. As far as I’m fighting over a guy. I think Olivia is pissed about the deception and the lying and the you know, yes. Like you don’t do that with a friend. You don’t go for our friends.
But I feel both like, I want to give Taylor a hug and also very disappointed in her. I feel, you know, like, she just seems, she just seems very lost. And like, she leans on her faith, but is not really. Like I feel, I just feel like she’s almost feeling shame about her actions and like, feels like she’s spiraling and needs help, and nobody’s really, I’m gonna be helping with both of you. I don’t feel sorry for Taylor in the least bit. I think Taylor is absolutely dropped dead. She has a face. She’s beautiful. When she was a little girl, from the time she was old enough to understand all she heard was how pretty she is. I think that she went through her entire life getting boys attention. And I think that this is one of many times in her life, where all the boys always liked her. And I could just picture her in middle school and high school in college, and then her friend liking somebody and deciding in that moment that she liked him for a couple of weeks and just going for the guy and I could picture the friends just not saying anything, because it’s sort of expected. Everybody likes Taylor. I don’t feel bad for girls like that. I think that there’s so many people that are like, so pretty like that. And that can do that. And I think it’s poor character. And I doubt this is the first time it happened. And yeah, I don’t feel bad for her. Are you then she always like plays into people are gonna feel bad for her. And there’s always like a line of guys like Austin, that do feel bad for her. And I kind of like that. In this case. Austin can’t really feel bad for her because he’s the guy. And Shep doesn’t feel bad for her. And I like that, like Craig is kind of like Whatever dude, you made your bed like you’re not a bad person. Imagine a world without farms without fresh produce. Without farm families who steward the land. It’s not a future we want American Farmland Trust is dedicated to protecting the land that sustains all of us. No farms, no food. We are working to keep America bountiful. But we need your help for membership to donate or to become a corporate partner, visit farm land.org. Let’s ensure a prosperous and sustainable future for us all. Remember, no farms, no food.
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I think that she’s banking on that. But girls like me will be like, You are not a girl’s girl. Girls like that. And we all know girls like that. Come on. Girls like that rely on and they always have they’re always friends with the guys. I’ve said it a million times. I am not the girl that was always friends with guys. I had guys that were my friends. Ultimately, they’ll try to hook up with me. Boys and girls bad friends when you’re young and single is very freaking complicated. I’m not saying it’s impossible. But it’s complicated, right? Yeah, best guy friend I ever had shout out to him because he listens is my gay friend who took me to his prom before he was out and he was my best friend. And even though we don’t get to see each other as much as we like because we’re both married and he has a baby and I am like, whatever. He’s my best friend and I trust him with anything and he’s the only one who never tried to hook up. Okay.
Well, I will say
it like the best way to I mean, sometimes the best way to get over somebody is to get under somebody else. And Olivia is dating a very good looking new guy and has been posting pictures of them together on a trip to the Bahamas. And there is this one picture I’m picturing in my mind, where it’s like a group picture. But he is like, most people are looking at the camera. And he is just like, looking down at her adore it like just like with adoration, like heart eye emoji. Super, super cute. And what I know about him is he’s from a very wealthy family from Dallas. Okay, and that’s where she’s from, right? Yes. And I believe that’s where her parents spend most of their time. Austin was on that trip, too. I know, I was at that same picture. I was like, is that Austin? Yes, yeah, and mutual mutual friends or whatever. And I thought it was funny when she posted that story saying like, your ex and new guy have the same tea time and it was like both of them in the picture. I’m like, wait, what? It’s so incestuous. Naomi’s new, rich boyfriend who by the way, we had heard they broke up but he just posted a picture of them at a UNC game his family like basically owned every building at UNC very wealthy owns the breakers in Palm Beach.
Yeah, he and her axe What the heck was the guy’s name? The doctor? They follow each other on Instagram. One of my followers told me so like they’re all they all know each other. Speaking of the breakers are girl Tinsley got married? Yeah, honestly, that was so exciting to see you know, she I feel like this is her perfect scenario. She found the love of her life and to my understanding like he lost his wife right so like now she can be a mom to these kids. You know, I think it’s great for her. I I agree. I love it. I’m so happy for her and she didn’t get married at the breakers she got married. Oh god I’m gonna forget the name I made a post the bad some something bad in tennis. Yeah, and apparently followers told me that it’s even fancier than the breakers Wow, good for her. She deserves she does she Sutton’s neighbor. Oh wait wait to be talked about. I don’t know. We didn’t talk about Sutton but I have
my guys. So here’s the thing I know Sutton is like weird and quirky and there’s so I said this last week. There’s so many things about her that I think are ridiculous and absurd. She’s ridiculous. However, she is such good television and her delusion and Andy last night and watch what happens live just keep shouting name them like
I’m gonna be using that and people that don’t watch Beverly Hills are gonna be like what was she talking about? My son is good TV. That is like a really she’s she was a great casting decision of all the more recent ones her and Garcelle are fantastic Sutton is really needed for the show. And something else about Kyla of not appreciating is I agree with Sutton that she is not her friend. I also don’t appreciate we watched Kyle for 13 years binge drink at Beverly Hills events and again I’m not saying she’s she was an alcoholic but an act erratic. I mean, she was shaking Sutton last year they showed a clip Yeah, physically shaking her. She has yelled your fucking liar Camille, she has had so many absurd, ridiculous outbursts. Not to say that Sutton hasn’t all her sisters yelling at her sister. You’re an alcoholic, all of that. So the fact that she is trying to paint this picture like her saying unhinged. She’s really really trying to drive the point home and it seems like productions on board when they showed Sutton pour the vodka yesterday. She’s really trying to drive the point home that Sutton’s a drunk that’s her mo agreed. Yeah, it’s very. I don’t like the pushing the alcoholic storyline on any of these people like I don’t know. It just doesn’t feel right. And it’s not fair because the reality of it is this. As viewers, if you were to show these shows to anyone who doesn’t drink, they would say they’re all alcoholics. And we’re not with them in their everyday lives when they’re not filming. So you know what I’m saying? Like it’s a skewed version of our perception. I think just judging by the show. Well on Tamra on two peas in a pod will say that like she’s like an Teddy actually two, they both say it like when they’re filming. They drink way more than they do in just regular life. Like, I don’t know if it’s like because like it loosens them up or it helps them cope with having cameras in their faces or what but I could I can totally see that just also even the social aspect of it, of course, like they’re in this short window of filming for three months.
At a time, like, they’re gonna have them go out to dinners and parties, like three times a week, whereas, like, maybe the average person is going out to a dinner once a week. And that’s where they socially drink. Like, I feel like everything is just amped with them filming, you know, so much in little time. Totally agree. Totally agree. Oh, I don’t I want to before you know, we’ll be wrapping up soon. And I need to know your thoughts on the one Dixon of it all. Oh, my God. Why is he still here? Like, right? They just Yeah, I. He doesn’t love her. I don’t think I don’t know. That’s a bold claim, I guess. Or maybe he loves her. But it’s giving very similar to Shep where he like says he loves her and he cries, you know, when the family is not like when ship cried this season when Taylor was with the dog, little Craig. And he was like, that was our family. Like, I could see similar things with Juan Dixon. Like he wants that family like he wants his cake and eat it too. Except he doesn’t cry. And he doesn’t even act apologetic. And it’s almost as if she knows not to go there. Like, during one of their rehearsed conversations. She was like, well, and Giselle said I should be mad and how come I’m not mad. And he was like, he sat in like this obnoxious way. So get mad Robin. Like, it’s almost like she knows that even if she was hysterically crying and yelling or whatever, he still would just be stone faced, like, you know what this is, you know that I step out, you know, that we’re keeping it together for the kids. And I have to say, seeing as how she’s the breadwinner, and he’s still unemployed, it really makes my blood boil. Like, there’s a point where we heard it on Miami, like there’s nothing worse than feeling trapped in a marriage Larsa. And all her wisdom, said, because of finances, and like, I would understand if Robin didn’t work at all. And you know, she had school aged children, and she needed to stay together. Although, to me, that goes out the window when you have a real housewives salary. Because if you’re on the show for this many years, you started businesses, you’re making your salary. Even if you have to live modestly. You don’t have to live with somebody who doesn’t treat you well. Agreed. I’m just starting to wonder if there is a weird power dynamic going on. Because I have been absolutely just stumped as to why they went back forward with, you know, building a house and getting married. And I almost wonder if there’s like a weird, like catching and chasing kind of thing from one where he decided he wanted to get Robin back. And then once he had her, he was back on top in terms of the power dynamic, and then decided I’m just gonna go back to my ways, you know, that maybe things really work good. And then this is all just taking Robin and completely completely by surprise. Amanda, that’s a great point. Because also he had a great job when they married when they got when they got engaged, and they remarried. And this all came out like after they were engaged and once like the wedding was planned. So yeah, I guess she’s got to now like regroup and figure out what the hell to do. I just feel like to like it literally the you. You’re talking about that? The planned conversation, right? It’s like, I was watching this. I’m like, is she trying to be as fucking boring as possible? She literally is standing in the kitchen, counting out her supplements, right? Yeah. When he comes out. I’m like, this is I it almost it like almost feels on purpose. Like she is trying to be as boring and make herself as small as as she possibly can while fulfilling her contract. Do you think she wants to be on the show? I think she needs to be on it. I don’t think she wants to. We know he doesn’t want to but yeah, he is. Yeah, that’s true. She needs the money. And
it sucks. I mean, yeah, it’s not that I don’t have sympathy for her. Unlike Taylor, who I have no sympathy for.
I do have sympathy for Robin because I think that I think that Robins a nice person. Certainly we’ve seen her be very loyal to Giselle, and she’s a great mom. And she’s got her podcast and she has her hat business and she’s trying to make things happen for herself and her boys. And I guess I’m not mad at Robin, I’m mad at one and I don’t like watching him pull down this strong woman who’s trying to make things happen like he should be adding to that pot. You know what I’m saying? Like, and I don’t mean only financially. I know he should be adding to that success to the success of their family. Like they should be a partnership. Like it shouldn’t just be you know, this feels like babysitting as opposed to a partnership. Right? Well, and at the very least, as the other woman said, he shouldn’t be at
into the shit pile either by going out and getting manicures with another woman and going to a laundromat when, you know, there’s still a lot of heat on him from this whole situation where he just was so nice that he bought some rando a hotel room. I mean, it’s the most ridiculous thing ever, that the idea that he just bought some random Instagram person and then like he admits they were inappropriately texting, which, if he never met the person in person, I could say, okay, it could be a situation where you’re a guy who kind of got off on the fan attention and you flirted in the DMS. But the fact that he went to see her in person shows that he was taking it to the next level. I do think there’s a world where I househusband, somebody’s got a pretty picture and she sends him something nice. And maybe they exchanged some sexting and it’s not above board and obviously the wife should be mad. But he took the next step and went to go see her in person. And the fact that his defense was Did you see what she looks like as if to say Oh, because he was catfished that’s why they didn’t hook up. Like it’s I can’t. He is currently my least favorite house husband. Yeah, he’s got some competition. Yeah.
I think I’m with you on that one. Honestly.
Yes, he can go potty you can go hang with Tom Sandoval. Yeah, he can which we didn’t even get to. You have to come back. We have so much more to get to. Oh, yeah. So much to get to thank you so much for having me. I always love coming on. And guys, Ali’s moving and next time she’s moving next to a hospital. It’ll be even more ambulances. She’ll be even more ambulances. I ally single. So I told her it’s a good opportunity to meet a doctor. I’ll hang out or the hospital and see back sick. The Starbucks idea. Good idea. Exactly. All right, cocktail. There’s, as always, we appreciate you. Thank you so much for tuning in. And till next week, I
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