125. Momtok exclusive tea; SLC is icy hot; Alexis needs a dictionary

So much going on in the Bravoverse this week. And we have some news that we share at the beginning of the pod. In Momtok news, we have some exclusive tea about one of the Mormon Wives allegedly cheating (publicly) on her husband. And that’s not all, sounds like she’s had quite a bit of drama in her personal life for years – we get into it. Salt Lake City is off to a fantastic start. Battles are already being had, one liners are being served. Michelle from the Valley just committed one of Amanda’s pet peeves. And after she looks up how to play Jenga, Alexis might need to look up the word “career” in the dictionary.

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from Bravo and cocktails.com
and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I’m B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s team.
What’s up? Cocktail ers, Amanda, we have such a juicy I love. I mean, we always have juicy stuff, but I feel like some days are like, so juicy that I’m like, are we going to be able to get it all in juicy? Probably not, which is why, if you guys cocktail party
exactly, and like, this week, Zoom was I could not, like, my eyes were popping out of my head just trying to keep up with the conversation. And then everything that was going on in the chat, it was, I would say, one of our best zooms ever. And we had so many people, so many newbies, not new cocktails, but people who haven’t been able to make it. So I think, Well, I think we should try to do another later time. I agree, maybe even, like a Sunday, a little bit later, because maybe that would work for people. We’ll see. I don’t know, I like to be in my bed right, like watching a show or reading a book by embarrassingly early on Sunday night, but me too, yes, but no, I think doing it later is I thought about it too, because, I mean, like you and I are constantly having to, like, adjust stuff because of carpools and stuff. So, like, everybody else is doing them too. And I’m sure, you know, cocktails are all very responsible and would not join a zoom while they’re driving their children, right? Even though you could, because you could, just, like, I know on my phone if I were joining it. But the problem is, you can’t enjoy it if the kids are in the car, because they’re like, and you’re like, she can’t hear Yeah, because there’s, you know, I love bloopers when, like, somebody doesn’t realize their mic is on and all of a sudden you hear like, no Jonathan, I said, No more juice, yeah? Or somebody like, rolling through a drive through and putting their order in.
So good. I love it. So yay. We
we have some news for you guys, for everybody. We have finally launched the merch store. So exciting. Yay, yay. So many of the cocktails sent me themselves in the merch, and I shared one picture, and I got flooded with non cocktails, being like, how do we order? So I’m like, ooh, let me not share anymore until it’s live. But yeah, we really did quality control. I should say Amanda really did quality control. We tried several different vendors. We ordered them ourselves.
Because, and we made sure it’s stuff that we would purchase, we would wear, and not just like your run of the mill stuff that’s going to shrink, so it’s quality stuff, the wine glasses. The My favorite is the Big Daddy mug, because it’s a big mug. It holds a nice full pour those Saturday mornings when you’re on the struggle bus, hopefully listening to our pod. I mean, cocktails don’t mess around. When it comes to coffee, I was there was no way we were gonna put out a small mug. It’s like a 15 ounce mug, because that’s what we do. We drink if we drink coffee, we’re drinking more than three ounces of it. The hardest thing to source always has been, and I don’t know if other people notice this when they’re looking at merch, is good wine glasses, like, good stemless so that was very important to us. Amanda and I are like, we need good, good wine or, you know, beverage glasses, right? Insulated cup. Yeah, I think that one is big, just because I know, you know, I am a leader. I have always used those for, like, if I’m gonna take a roadie somewhere, or if I have, like, like a seltzer. But now I’ve just started drinking my water all day, out of it, because it actually keeps my ice. I don’t know why I’m you guys are gonna think I’m an idiot, but I’m like, oh, I should just, instead of just pouring it in a glass all day, just use that. Ah, even home like it didn’t. I know because it’s an outside cup. Amanda, I’m yeah, do the same. You know what? We have to pull that in discord, because it’s an outside cup. I wouldn’t
know you’re saying I should use my cocktail insulated cup in the house. Is what I’m using mine right now. And like my ice even stayed cold in it overnight from last night to because I left it downstairs, and I was like, cleaning it out of the room, like, oh, there’s still ice in it. That’s exciting. So, so yeah, but yeah. So for you guys who are wondering, you can get there a couple different ways, either go to shop, dot cocktails and gossip.com. So we’re using the cocktails and gossip URL, not the Bravo and cocktails. So go to shop dot cocktails and gossip.com
or this will be confusing, but you can still go to the Bravo and cocktails sites and hit the merch in the top menu on the site, and that will take you there as well. And I’ll post to my story. Yeah, I’ll post to my stories, and I’ll make a highlight so that you guys can always just go to my feed where the highlights are and click it. Oh yeah, that would be a cute place to put everybody, using their their merch and stuff too. Oh yes, smart. So yeah. So the we have a little treat for all of you guys, the first 10 people who enter the code that B is about to say at checkout will get 50% off their entire purchase. This code is only going to work on Saturday, so we can give all of the cocktails who listen to this version of the podcast. So the Saturday version, which is the ad supported version, so we can give you guys all a chance at using this code. So B, why don’t you tell them the code? The code is merch. Launch 3m,
E, R, C, H, L, A, U, n, C, H, and the number three, and the code again, will only work Saturday. So if you’re listening and it’s Saturday morning, get your ass to a computer, because the first 10 people will get 50% off their entire purchase. Yay, yay. This is exciting. It’s very exciting that this is finally here. Okay, so mom, tack continuing to be the gift that continues to give and give and give. We got some interesting Mom Talk exclusive tea yesterday, so I have to set the scene for you. Amanda and cocktail ers, okay, I need to learn to put my phone away certain times, such as when I’m getting a manicure. And, you know, it’s hard for me because I’m always, I always the second that I’m not on my phone, when I go on, I’m like, Oh my God, this was sent 10 minutes ago. I always want to be able to write the person back so that they’re still on, you know, on Instagram, and able to answer. So this is one of your, I think this is one of your super human talents, that you’re so good at this, though, because I don’t, I don’t know how you do it, that you’re so connected and with, like, all the cocktails and the DMS, I think I like, I don’t know. I know that I need to. So it’s like, you know, like, how you just do things? Because you know, if you don’t, it’s you’re gonna miss it. So, so I’m getting my nails done, and I’m doing the powder dip, and I’m like, saying to my nail, my nail tech. I’m like, I’m sorry. I just need five minutes. Because I was like, I have to get this posted. Because I never know when, you know, listen, people send stuff to me, and then they also send it to other people. And I, I don’t mind if other people get it, but I hate being stale or link to the game, yeah. And just the inner workings of it, it’s so annoying, because there are times I get stuff.
And I’m like, All right, I’ll post that around noon, because, like, I like to spread it out. I don’t want to have like, all the tea and then, you know, and then there are times where they, like, announce a show, like, as an example, Frederick show was just announced. I thought I had a little bit more time. So, like, I’m not even gonna post that because it’s like, All right, well, that was announced. So anyway, I digress. Okay, so if you’re not in cocktail party, this is the first time you’re hearing this. So bees in the closet again today, my husband decides to book a work call. Don’t even guys,
it’s gonna be a fight later. When I have what I have, I have to how far we’ve come.
I I’m at a point in my life where I have to schedule my fights now. So it’s like after this, I have pickups, and then we’re getting a jersey. Kind of get it
Okay, so we remember the crossover at giggly squads live show in California. So yes, Schwartz and Jax went, I want to say that was Friday or Saturday, and the next night, I want to say it was Sunday. Could be wrong, but it was sometime around there, Sheena went with her sister and Brock, and she was also with Marciano, who is very handsome guy that was on Vanderpump villa. He’s not as well known because obviously that show, you know, wasn’t as big. But they were together, and then Jesse from Montauk was there, Mom Talk. But I really whatever Secret Lives of Mormon wives,
we’re like cool crossover on crossover on crossover. Wow. A follower was at sir and met them, met Sheena. Very friendly, very lovely. All good things to say. So they, then the follower and her group moved on to Tom Tom. So they, you know, were all hanging, drinking whatever, and it didn’t move on with them. But when they got to Tom Tom, that group had also moved on to Tom Tom. Well, this person claims, okay, and she did say to me, her friend took a video. I don’t know of them kissing, but like of being in tom tom, so she hasn’t sent me a video. God, how I wish I had a video. There’s nothing I like, like a video like this. It’s true. It may still come. Not everyone is as urgent as I am with the
with the scoop, Jesse, who is very much married, and yesterday, as I received this intel, her husband was in her Insta Stories, they were at their injector, doing inject, you know, Botox, whatever, right? Making out with Marciano marchiano, making out in public. Yes, okay, well, allegedly, allegedly. I don’t know why somebody would make that up, but no, wow. Well, a lot of you guys say you can’t tell the mom talk people apart. So just for those of you guys who are trying to place who she is, Jesse is the one who looks like Demi. But Jesse is the hairdresser, so she’s the one who everybody kind of comes into her salon and they chat. There is she the penny wide one? No, I don’t remember. No, I think the blue eyed ones, because there’s three that look alike to me, Jesse and another one. I think the other one’s the blue eyed one. Yeah, so Jesse that brown hair with the blonde highlights, just like she and Jimmy, have very, very, very similar hair color and length, and also, they do resemble each other a lot. But yes, Jesse is quite she’s also like, kind of like, pretty calm, and yeah, but she is. We know that she is. She is very much, very much married, but that’s not where the story ends. So then when the cocktail is, read the post they I mean, you guys are the best private investigators in the entire world. Start sending me receipts. Mind you, I’m still dipping my nails in powder of Jesse writing on March on his Instagram post. So he posted something, and she writes, you better be there next weekend. So this was ahead of her traveling to California and hanging with Sheena, and he replied like some winky face someone else wrote on his post with so there was a group post that he made with her and Sheena and Brock, and somebody wrote, oh, my god, I love Jesse. And Marciano writes, everyone does the whole swinging thing with Mom Talk. Maybe Jesse and her husband are part of that, or they have an open marriage. We don’t know. Okay, so you just said, I never miss a message. But that’s not true, because Oh, a cocktail or messaged me again the nails in the dip
and b remember, I don’t know if you ever posted. So this is very important, guys, if I don’t respond, if you send me tea and I don’t respond, at a minimum, like it, because in this situation where I’m getting my nails done, it could be possible that I would just like it, although I do pride myself on always thanking you guys for sending tea and asking follow up questions and getting the entire scoop. So if I just leave it there, and you might message me a few days later, and then I like that, and I haven’t responded to your tea. I missed it, and I don’t think it happens often, but please always resend if there’s no response and it’s not posted anywhere, because I am never going to let tea just sit in.
An inbox, so a cocktail messaged me, and they said that there is real so this is before the marchiano thing. They said, Oh, my God, Jesse from Secret Lives of Mormon wives. Apparently they mentioned on mom talk that Jesse had cheated when she was pregnant, her and her first husband were getting a divorce. So she she got pregnant at some point during her pregnancy, her pregnancy, her and her first husband decided to divorce the entire pregnancy, until the final weeks. She thought it was her first husband’s baby. It turned out to be her through DNA. I don’t know this is this person’s tea to be her new husband’s baby.
So that worked out. So the guy she was cheating on actually did knock her up. So allegedly, it was wild. This person said, because she also lost to her best friends that used to work with her, it’s always someone’s fault. And they said, so ready to see her drama. So this was ahead of Secret Lives of Mormon wives, which could be why? Because I may have been like, Oh, who is this person? But usually I would keep that in like a note filed away, like Mom Talk tea, yeah, which, by the way, guys just PSA. If you send stuff into the send us tea on the website, we both see it and file it, and it’s easier to find later. And you can use a fake email or your real one, tell us what we can or can’t. Reveal all of that. But anyway, it is funny to me, because Jesse on the show seems like the calm, rational one on the show. So much I just have a feeling, guys, that there are so many other skeletons in the closets that we don’t know about yet with these Mom Talk, ladies, there was a little bit more hairdresser drama that came in from another follower too, right? Yes. So then one of my followers who she’s actually New York based, but she has a very large following for hair and makeup, and she said, can confirm the Jesse Mom Talk drama about her salon, and baby’s father is accurate. I was waiting for this to come out. It was a huge scandal in the hair stylist world. She said, huge tea with and there’s an account at Stu styles. She had a podcast with him, then she screwed him over. She also said her hair stylists are 1099 employees. 10 or on a 1099, tractors. So a couple of hair stylists reached out and said, This person said it’s illegal. They said it’s not illegal. So I don’t know if that’s dependent on state that’s here nor there. She’s basically dramatic. Has cheated and has drama in her professional and personal life.
This person said, also, the baby’s name was something completely different, until she found out it was Jordan’s, which is her new husband. So they said, she said, this was two years ago, but people in the hair stylist world like it was a wild time. I vaguely remember hearing about this, not that I really had a stake in it, but like any drama that’s like on Instagram, even like influence or drama, and that stuff usually finds its way to us one way or another. So this person said she also had drama at a previous salon she had worked at. That’s when she opened her first salon. But yeah, she always has drama. She’s lost a lot of friends from the way she runs her business. And the person added, but I do love Jesse on the show, huh? Yeah, too funny. So Kingdom mom talk secret lives of Mormon wives, scoop coming in. Yeah, I these women. It’s and they’re more and more in my Instagram algorithm now, and I’m still seeing posts with them all wearing those matching black sweatshirts with their names on them.
It’s gonna be like I said. I think it’s gonna Oh, keep them giving somebody just sent me. Jesse posted, and somebody wrote, girl, you got to read Bravo and cocktails, they’re exposing you. And she said, I heard about it. It’s all bullshit. Yeah, okay, send me that video. Yes, follower, I’m sure. And yeah, I’m sure. If it’s alleged, okay, we’ll hear more about it. And I also just want to say this. I hate to say it, but I teach my kids, your reputation precedes you once you do something the little boy who cried wolf, all of those we teach our children so once you’ve cheated on your first husband, unfortunately, it’s going to be easier to believe when you’re on a show that involves swinging soft or hard,
whether or not you admit to being a part of it, we’re gonna look at you sideways.
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I don’t know why somebody would make this up and send it to me. Is it out of the realm of possibility that Jesse herself is looking for attention in a storyline? Certainly not. This could be what makes her the breakout storyline of the next season, yeah, especially when there’s other reality stars and it’s think about it, it’s got all the ingredients for a great scandal, right? Other reality. Resume, public place, New Jersey, winter house storyline,
by the way, Hulu producers, we do, we do sign those releases. Yeah, send them. So send it along. Okay, so moving on to Salt Lake City. Since we’re talking about mom talk, we didn’t get a chance to really talk about it since we recorded early last week, although you brought it up when you saved the day with your solo You did such a great job. By the way, we all like, literally me, but and all the cocktails that you found a way to make sure that show still went on. So let’s talk about let’s talk about society. What are you thinking so far? I so we’re two episodes in. I think it’s fantastic. I said on the Zoom because somebody, I think it was Carrie. Shout out to Carrie, our cocktail said, like, feels so produced. And I said, Yeah, I get that. But also, these women are really invested in being the top dog. A perfect example of that is Meredith versus Angie. Angie said in an interview with Bryce Sandler, she cried when she got the center snowflake. These girls really want it. They want to have the sensor snowflake. They want to be full time. So they’re being dramatic, because every one of them is the Lulu, which we love in a housewife, and every one of them thinks they’re the star, and so they’re in it. They’re not. They don’t leave there and go, huh? That was funny. It wasn’t that funny. Like, they leave there and they go, I’m gonna get her, yeah. And that’s what we look for in housewife drama.
And they’re messy all on their own without the show. Whitney and Justin, their marriage started out of an affair. Meredith and Seth were separated, and apparently she had a lot of fun in New York. Lisa Barlow is Lisa Barlow, Heather gay is, I think, a very interesting story without being on the show too. Yeah. X was part of the Mormon community and got divorced and has been communicated. There’s so much interesting happening. I gotta say that first episode, I thought it was so funny. I was watching it on a plane, because, as you guys know, I was traveling last week, and it was like a, it was an, of course, you were traveling crazy. Things only happen, only when you’re mid flight, only, yeah, for real. So the lights were off on the plane, and when it’s like a night flight, like it’s quieter on the plane, I was like, cackling out loud watching the show. It was I thought it was hilarious. Totally. A lot of you ask, what’s the beef Meredith versus Angie? I think that Angie simply felt pushed out for a long time. And to me, that is what the beef is.
It’s like Meredith, you’re not better than me. Just because you got on the show first doesn’t mean you’re a better housewife kind of thing. Classic OG icing at a newbie. You don’t think there’s like a not about the pasta thing going on, but they’re just not where Whitney is concerned. I do. I honestly think Angie. I think Meredith was very unkind to Angie. I think maybe she spoke badly about her. I think she told producers, don’t pick her. I think for whatever reason, Meredith never wanted her on the show.
And I think that a lot of viewers, because they were two Angies, because the Jen Shah thing was going on, we saw the Angie’s as like, total afterthoughts, because there was, like, such a more dramatic storyline that the other women, because we knew them from first season, were a part of that. That is part of the reason Angie didn’t take off, because I’m personally enjoying her, and Angie’s a housewife to be envious of. And I put this like a little bit down to get to like, why I think Angie and Bron is trying so hard with Bronwyn. But if you look at Angie, her and her husband’s house, which, by the way, is for sale, I wonder why that is because they just moved in a couple years ago. But they own 10 salons, like, big, gorgeous salons, like, they’re very successful in Salt Lake City, so I think she’s a real threat to all of the women. Like, she’s got a very good looking husband. She’s very good looking. They’re very successful and flashy. And I just think that Meredith, for whatever reason, saw her as a threat. That’s my thought on it. I loved Lisa. Flipping out about the podcast. It was Lisa delulu. She really gets into this loop a hamster wheel. She does,
and there is no talking her out of it. No, it’s yeah, it’s she once she has decided how she feels about something. I don’t think in all situations, but as it return, pertains to her personally, when she’s presented with new information, if she’s mad at you for doing something to her, it doesn’t matter if you’re like, No, but I did that because it’s like, it doesn’t matter you did it. Yeah. Ready to level up. Chumba casino is your playbook to fun. It’s free to play with no purchase necessary. Enjoy hundreds of casino style games like bingo, slots and Solitaire, anytime, anywhere, with fresh releases every week, whether you’re at home or on the go, let Chumba casino bring the excitement to you, plus get free daily login bonuses and a free welcome bonus. Join now for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. Play Chumba casino today, no purchase necessary. VGw group void were prohibited by law 18 plus TNC supply, hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons Vons and pavilions. Now through July 15, stock up on all your favorite personal care brands and earn four times points to use on later purchases for discounts on groceries or gas, shop in store or online for items like Pantene shampoo, Old Spice, total body deodorant, Tampax, Pearl, Venus, razors, head and shoulder shampoo, Olay, body wash and Pantene conditioner and earn four times points. Hurry before these deals are gone. Off rents, July 15, restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com. For more details. How can we help make stronger communities happen? Well, at JPMorgan Chase, we invest in what’s working in businesses that create more jobs. In hospitals delivering care where it’s needed the most, in workers building new buildings, bridges and roads, connecting what we need to where we live. Make the green grass grow all around. All around. Make the green grass grow all around. Make momentum happen. Learn more at JPMorgan, chase.com/impact,
and then Whitney at the Bezos dinner, they go at it, I think. And I think that we all think this. I think it’s because at a certain point they all agreed they wouldn’t film with Monica and agreed to ice her out. And somehow production convinced Whitney to give in. And so Whitney must have gone to the women like, let’s let her in, because the way they all at that besos dinner, like Heather Meredith and Whitney, who aren’t necessarily on each other’s side in other situations, all united for that against Whitney. Yeah, that makes sense. That actually makes more sense than anything I could think of while I was watching that, because it was, it was very much like an everybody crackdown on Whitney. And I think Whitney was very much taken by surprise by that, because I think that Whitney thought she could get away with it, because the women didn’t want to discuss Monica. They didn’t want to give her any air time. So when they all were coming up with other reasons, like, you lied about this and you lied about that, they found a way to circumvent like, still be mad at Whitney and still expose Whitney as, quote, unquote the liar, without mentioning Monica, but real housewives fans know what’s up. I did. I did like When Angela Angie ran after Whitney, Heather was like, Wait, but Angie’s my girl as they were leaving, and Lisa’s, that’s Whitney’s girl, and Meredith goes, you misread that one. Like, I thought that was like.
Such a classic housewives moment. Yeah, I agree. There’s been, there’s really been so many the just that home. We’ll probably talk about it. But like that whole scene where Bronwyn and Mary and Brittany are sitting out outside, and Brittany just keeps sticking her foot in it over and over again, and the other two are just like, not letting not being polite, and not letting her get away with anything like it was another, I thought, very iconic, iconic moment on our zoom, we were trying to remember why they were going to Milwaukee. But then, obviously we saw on the show last night that Whitney is invited, I think she has either a business relationship or a close friendship with Trixie Mattel, the drag queen who we saw last season when they went to trixie’s Motel in Palm Springs. So Trixie was invited to host a drag show, sorry. Whitney was invited to host a drag show at Trixie bar in Milwaukee. The funny part was they were all like yelling at each other, and Whitney got into it with, I forget who, whatever it was. And then the segue is like, all right, I’m comfortable inviting you all to come, and it’s, are you, though, or yet, a show like those things always are funny. They were clearly not thrilled about Milwaukee. We also heard this is where Meredith and Mary’s Fallout begins. So that should be very interesting to watch. I have to when Mary said she’s not the sharpest knife in a drawer. She’s not even the sharpest spoon. I don’t care. Okay, she’s too freaking funny. The woman is crazy, but she’s, I know, I know she is very It’s too bad that she hasn’t used her sharp tongue more for good. Yeah, because she’s, I would be an up and down Mary Stan, if that were the case. But then we have Britney, who is the other one of the other newcomers. I think the first show, I was like, I’m not so sure about her. And then watching her again, I think she has this vulnerability that is very endearing, because I don’t know that she almost gave me a heart. She gave me a little bit of Jennifer pedantry energy, same but for some reason that that vulnerability in Britney, I find a little bit more endearing. I don’t know. I get the feeling we’re actually going to get a lot from her, at least for this first season, because she doesn’t seem to have her guard up yet. Great point. She clearly has an interesting storyline, which we learned when she was at pickleball with Heather. And she’s divorced twice her ex husband, so her second ex husband started dating whoever Donnie Osmond’s nephew is apparently well known in Salt Lake City The Osmonds ex fiance. So Brittany forged a relationship with the Osmond via that, and then they started dating, although he refers to them as best friends, which we see them. She’s yay where, and this was, like, the first time I ever felt like, wow, Mary’s being relatable. Now we don’t know why she doesn’t speak with her two daughters, but she did say to Heather that she back sacrificed her daughters for men. So I have to imagine that’s likely, if her, if she just divorced her second husband, then the daughters had to be a little bit older. They must be from her first husband, and maybe, in some way, she chose her second husband over her daughters. I’m sure we’re going to learn more. But when Mary, when she’s talking about it, and Mary’s if you’re a nice person and I’m not, then how come your daughters don’t talk to you, and obviously we don’t know what the situation is and whatnot, but I was Yes, Mom, shame, and we’ve said it on the pod. If we’ve said it once, we’ve said it 1000 times, is a terrible thing to do, but it’s really hard to, like, reconcile the mother’s two daughters aren’t speaking to her, and she basically said, I made mistakes, and that’s why, while it’s sad, yeah, I’m sorry, as a viewer, I’m gonna judge you, yeah, because you clearly chose some man over them. That’s basically what you’ve said without telling us details. Yeah, I thought though that Heather’s commentary in her confessional that they were interspersing with the pickleball scene. I thought that was really interesting. And this is actually something I didn’t know that. I knew that in the Mormon religion, people supposedly have a higher place in heaven if they have more children, which is what I think a lot of the men use as reasons to have multiple wives so they could have all these children and then have a higher place in heaven that all of them would but I didn’t know. What Heather said was that, in the religion you have to have, women can’t get into heaven without a husband, even divorced women, it just, she just said, if you’re not married, you cannot get into heaven in the morning.
Mormon religion, and so to me, I’m like, that actually puts things much more into perspective, right? Because we’re again, here we are talking about this religion that is very much male focus. It’s very much the patriarchy, as we’ve discussed when we’ve discussed Secret Lives of Mormon wives. It makes you understand a little bit why she might be that way, because she says I am Mormon. So it’s not like she’s somebody who’s saying, coming out there and questioning the Mormon religion Brittany. Brittany is not doing that. She’s saying I am Mormon. So it made me understand a little bit, not necessarily agree with her decisions, but maybe understand a little bit where she might have been coming from. Yeah, no, I can, I Yeah, yeah. And she can drive in this place where the men have all the power and the men just like we’ve seen, it’ll be interesting to see where she had I want to hear more. I want to know more about this. I want to know more about why she
is so okay with and so excited about the guy that she’s been dating coming out and just publicly calling her his best friend. Yeah, that was sad. It’s yeah. It makes me just it makes me very sad for her. So as Mary and Brittany are getting into it, which was like comical at first, and then Mary opened up about her own relationship with her mother, which really gives you insight into why Mary is a little bit off, like to have be one of five siblings and a mother who wasn’t around and everything like that. And so in comes Bronwyn, who just drags Brittany. So that was definitely Mormon. Mormon. That was definitely Bronwyn choosing to make her mark, right? Because here you are, you’re a new housewife. You have to pick, you’re gonna have to go for somebody, right? Brittany makes the most sense, because she’s got the least, the least, the least. Audience poll, yeah, yeah. And even amongst the women, because only Heather said, Boo about it. And I do appreciate that Heather spoke up for her, yeah, because bromo was like, very cruel, I did not think it was a huge deal. I think Brittany was trying to be friendly when she walked over and was like, Oh, I love your costume. I don’t think that was a dis. I think after she said it, she realized like, oh. And then she was trying to relate to Mary, and that didn’t work, because Mary said, God, would you know, never make her poor, because everyone who’s poor is what Satan’s child like? I didn’t get that at all, but it’s very neither. So she calls Britney chaotic and all over the place. And she put this big focus on knowing her words, I guess, because she calls her outfit a costume or whatever. And so Heather jumps in and she’s Bronwyn, like you’re really one to talk, because you were in the car with me and Lisa, and you were basically saying how wrong Whitney was and everything she said about Lisa. But then I spoke to Whitney, and Whitney said you were so supportive, and so Whitney tried to shrug that off, because Whitney has to shrug that off, because she needs to make friends with Bronwyn. But I think it gave us a look and on watch, what happens live? Was it Lisa? I think it was Lisa was on the first week, who said that Bronwyn is probably gets like the bitchiest edit. I think Bronwyn is really gonna bring it, which I’m here for. I don’t know if I’m necessarily gonna agree with it. I don’t think, I don’t think her going for Britney was like a pit bull fighting with a little poodle helps a little low. Yeah, I agree. But so when Bronwyn also gets some heat about being two sided, two faced, and saying that, telling Whitney that she’s supportive of her, but then also talking shit about her. I’m watching this, and I’m like, is Heather being messy for bringing this up, or is this just how she one of the ways that she’s just choosing this is how she’s choosing to stand up for for Britney, by saying you’re a mess, too. And then we noticed Lisa does not say a word to stand up for anybody. But then she uses this as a chance to go back in her loop about the podcast again. And Bronwyn did not appreciate that, which is good for Angie, which I’ll get to in a minute. But I think that hell, Heather is a very calculated housewife, and I think that Heather is good at the game, and I think that she killed two birds with one stone, because she was both sticking up for her friend Brittany, whom she brought into the group, whom she can relate to, because she’s gonna blame it all on the Mormonism, which she got away from, but she knows the effects of it, and she feels like Britney is Britney Situation is because of the patriarchy and etc, etc, while making her very best attempt to not allow Whitney to forge a friendship or alliance with Bronwyn. But the reason it didn’t work is because it’s probably if Whitney had, if Whitney was on good footing with a couple of the women, I think her reaction to bromine would have been, how dare.
Are you? Whereas, since Whitney doesn’t have good footing, she needs Bronwyn, she was like, I don’t believe it’s exactly how Heather said it. She may have felt that way, but once she heard my side of the story. So it was a convenient way for Whitney to whatever spin it, because she’s listen at the end of the day, and you saw it at the besos dinner, where Whitney was like, she’s really feeling herself. By the way, she stands up, I’m going home to my brand new house and my beautiful family. She’s essentially, I don’t fucking care about you. Like every one of them thinks they’re the queen bee. That’s right, the funniest thing, and it started with Jen Shah. All of them balance her the crown, yeah? And now they’re just, it’s just like a chicken fight. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions now through July 15, stock up on all your favorite personal care brands and earn four times points to use on later purchases for discounts on groceries or gas. Shop in store or online for items like Pantene shampoo, Old Spice, total body deodorant, Tampax, Pearl, Venus, razors, head and shoulder shampoo, Olay, body wash and Pantene conditioner. And earn four times points. Hurry before these deals are gone, off rents. July 15, restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com. For more details. This summer, find your happy at the OC fair. From thrilling rides and foodie favorites to shopping live shows and even pig races, there’s always something new to find at the OC fair, July 18 through August 17 And for even more summer fun, don’t miss the Toyota summer concert series at Orange County’s premier outdoor venue, Pacific amphitheater. Catch your favorite bands live under the stars in concert fair admission included with concert ticket. Get your tickets now@ocfair.com
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Who do you think the creepy is? Is there one? I don’t think there is. I don’t think I think it really like it’s a seesaw. I think that the average viewer would probably say Barlow is the most recognizable, the funniest the meal. She’s the one with the quote, baby gorgeous, and she’s got the Wendy’s ads with the other housewives and some of the Southern charm guys and all that kind of stuff. I think Heather has, if I had to pick I would say Heather and Lisa stand out the most to me. I think Angie’s on their tail. I don’t think Whitney, try as she might, really as much of anything. She’s definitely very much an ensemble person. She’s not main she’s not main character vibes. She had some great confessional lines this episode too, though she does, she does have smart confessionals, she has good lines, but she never is gonna have me. She’s never main character, Meredith, will never have me. I like Meredith. I think she’s good for the show. I just I also find her so beautiful, like she’s just very beautiful. I liked her storyline. I like about her being bat mitzvahed. I love all of that. I enjoy her, I enjoy our kids. I enjoy Seth. I just she’s not main she’s not main character. Never was for me, but I’d like her. I feel like, as Angie is sitting there perched on a chair with Brit, with Bronwyn, getting her scalp massage, I felt like Angie is coming in here and she’s Bronwyn is going to be my girl. Lisa brought her on. Angie knows that Lisa, perfect example, Brahman, is already annoyed second episode because Lisa didn’t stick up for her. As you said, she went right back to that podcast loop. So it’s not going to be hard for somebody to get Bronwyn on their side. I think that all the women know that Bronwyn is going to be full time, right? Because when they started, we didn’t know who was full time Brittany or brahman or that other one with the cute Bailey Maley, who was so cute and probably a great girl in real life, but clearly doesn’t have housewife energy, like full time housewife. And they probably saw Bronwyn Broman really has money. She really has. When you have money, you have power. Clearly, she’s ready to fight. She’s ready to get in there. So I think Angie sees her as a great alliance. I think that she feels like she’s on her level financially, probably problems on a higher level. But, and I think she, like I said, I think she sees her as someone who gets sick of Lisa’s self absorbed ways. Right now, Angie only has Mary. I mean, that’s not the most stable Alliance. Yeah, yes, I think you’re exactly right. Angie wants to skin Bronwyn and wear like last season’s Versace. By the way. I’m re watching first season Jersey, and I just have to tell you, the bitches could never it was so good I need you can’t recreate it. It’s it.
Yeah, I know so that it’s just magic. I agree. I think Angie, I think you’re right. I do actually really love this Angie and Mary friendship, but I think Angie’s smart enough to know that it probably only goes an inch deep with Mary, which is probably why I think you absolutely nailed that she’s going for Bronwyn. And I also completely agree that Bronwyn will either get over Lisa for her self absorbed ways, as you said, or I think she knows that Lisa will probably screw her over somehow, because Lisa is essentially all about Lisa at the end of the day. Oh yeah, and we know that as of right now. So it’s September of 2024
last week when the show premiered, we saw all over Instagram that Lisa and Angie are at each other’s throats in a very nasty way on Instagram. So I’m guessing things don’t get better between Angie and Lisa during the season. And the thing about Angie is there’s always housewives like her, where they’re very normal in a lot of ways, but then they still have the, obviously, the housewife streak, right? Like, I like when she’s talking with her husband and she’s all reasonable and he’s Yes, that’s a good plan. Because I think I don’t, obviously, I don’t know these people, but I just feel like her husband’s a very solid guy and is trying to, like, guide her in a way. Let’s not go off the rail. Yeah, you know what? I mean, I’m really listen. I never was I never disliked Angie. She just wasn’t a factor to me at all. And last season, the Monica stuff, again, she wasn’t really included, because Monica’s whole drama at the end, when we were also engaged was involving past seasons, which Angie wasn’t in. So I feel like she’s finally on equal footing. And I think that’s why she has this attraction to Bronwyn, because her goal, of course, is to rise up with Bronwyn and leave the rest in the dust, because that’s of all the franchises like I’m going to use Miami as an example when I’m watching Miami, and all shows have their vibes, and they’re all great for different reasons. But when I’m not watching Miami, I never get the sense that one of them is trying to be the top housewife, like I really feel it’s about their lives in Miami and the rumors that they hear and the connections they have with people and the groups of friends they’re in. And it’s like, about Miami. It’s not about Bravo, where Salt Lake City very solidly, and I enjoy watching it, and I don’t want to say it’s overproduced. It’s a group of women who want to be the top housewife on their city. And I don’t feel like that with every housewives. I think we might see a little bit of that with New York, if I’m being honest, yeah, I would, yeah. I don’t think you like I feel like Miami is the least like that. Yes, I think that the drama is not about that, where it’s about that on Salt Lake City, the drama on Miami is not really about that. I do think, I think Larsa thinks that she’s the queen of everything. I think Alexia thinks she’s definitely the queen of everything. I think Nicole actually is the queen of everything. I don’t know. I don’t know, but, yeah, but like, even Alexia and Nicole, like, even Alexia Nicole, like I have always felt like Alexia feels like Nicole is the new Cuban Barbie, right, the younger version, the wealthier version. But I don’t feel like, I feel like Alexia is envy of her. It’s not. It has nothing to do with show envy. It’s real life envy. Does that make sense? Where, like, I feel like if Angie and Meredith weren’t on a show, they wouldn’t have beef. You know what I mean? Like, it would be like, whatever. Maybe they wouldn’t be friends or whatever. But I see what you’re saying. You know what I’m saying? Yeah, I agree, and I do think, I think Bronwyn is coming out real strong, and I’m enjoying watching her. I’m enjoying watching her so far. I don’t, wouldn’t say necessarily that she is somebody, that she’s not the housewife that necessarily I would want to go out and have a drink with because she just seemed a little scary
to me. But Bronwyn, I don’t know. I just feel like she will turn on somebody and eviscerate them, but I I’m in very interesting to watch. I’m enjoying her, but I feel like, you know how people like say, oh, new money, like she feels very so I don’t know if you remember, and I’ve re i think i reposted it last night. So something that I always do is, as I’m watching, I really should do it ahead of time, is I go back and look at like, the posts we’ve got, and I will make a master post of what we got during filming. But we got something very interesting about Bronwyn, and she actually touched on it last night. So we heard her last night say, and cocktail ers know what I’m going to mention, because it is a cocktail post that we’ve never discussed, that she got knocked up and her daughter’s father wasn’t involved. Her daughter’s biological father wasn’t involved in her daughter, Gwen’s life. That is true. But what Amanda and I and cocktail ers heard, allegedly, is that her whole single mom thing until.
She married her wealthy older husband. Is not true. She did get knocked up in college at BYU. However, she came home to California and married my friend Brody, who is not her baby daddy and not from Utah. They knew each other from high school. He married her and was the first step dad to her daughter. He was a regular guy from Northern California, good looking, super fit, her age, triathlete. They ended up divorced. So this person never, never. She did not divorce. It wasn’t, I’m not implying that she divorced him for her current husband. That is not what. It just wasn’t just her and her daughter right until she married her current husband, either. So she fairly soon after that, she was newly married to an extremely wealthy guy. Every Facebook update was her on a shopping street, private spree, private plane, very rags to riches flaunted. There were opinions that she married the older guy for money. Everybody has that opinion when you marry an older guy. As far as I can tell, she doesn’t keep in touch with anyone from home, Bay Area, California. And this person said I couldn’t believe it when I saw her in the trailer. I’ll be interested to see how she presents her story on the show. Now she hasn’t lied. Omitting isn’t lying. She did make it sound like she got knocked up. Was raising her daughter alone. It’s interesting to see as the season goes. I because this person says she wonders if she’ll mention her ex husband, and maybe she won’t, and maybe that’ll be because she doesn’t want to drag him into it or whatever. I don’t know I would be interested if her daughter still has a relationship with Him, if she mentions it. I don’t know whether the daughter does or doesn’t. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. Now through July 15, stock up on all your favorite personal care brands and earn four times points to use on later purchases for discounts on groceries or gas. Shop in store or online for items like Pantene shampoo, Old Spice, total body, deodorant, Tampax, Pearl, Venus, razors, head and shoulder shampoo, Olay, body wash and Pantene conditioner and earn four times points. Hurry before these deals are gone. Off rents, July 15, restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com for more details, get fresh summer savings on family favorites at Vons and Albertsons. This week at Vons and Albertsons packages of rocky boneless skinless chicken breasts then sliced or tenders are buy one, get one free with membership where applicable, plus get 18 ounce packages of Signature Select blueberries for 399 each with digital coupon. Also this week at Vons and Albertsons, get six to eight ounce Lucerne sliced, shredded or chunk cheese for 249 each with digital coupon limit four. Visit Vons or albertsons.com for more deals this summer, find your happy at the OC fair. From thrilling rides and foodie favorites to shopping live shows and even pig races, there’s always something new to find at the OC fair, July 18 through August 17 And for even more summer fun, don’t miss the Toyota summer concert series at Orange County’s premier outdoor venue, Pacific amphitheater. Catch your favorite bands live under the stars in concert fair admission included with concert ticket. Get your tickets now@ocfair.com
you uh,
yeah, we got a lot of stuff on her, like that. She didn’t stuff that. Like, there’s some stuff that, yeah, we didn’t even post because it’s hard to know for sure if it’s true. But she they don’t live full time in Salt Lake City. They have homes other places. So, you know, I always look at somebody like that as did she just want to be a housewife forever and decide that Park City, having a house in Park City would help her get in through Salt Lake City? But that’s just me being my cynical stuff. Listen, if you really want to talk about it. There’s casting companies, right? And there are women that apply for cities, because that’s what it is. You apply to be a housewife like you apply to work at Target. And so it’s not out of the question. We know that this was rumored with New York. It’s not out of the question that a casting agency says, Listen, I know you applied in New York, guys, I’m not saying she did. I’m just using this as an example. Where did she say her husband goes on business? Was it New York? He that? He I know, yeah. I think she said New York. And then we know, but let’s say, and they were like, Houston, yeah, yeah. And so maybe she said, maybe the casting people are like, listen, we could really use your jazz over in Salt Lake City. And we know that you guys have homes in several places, so why don’t we just put you in so you know what I’m saying. And here’s the other thing, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. A lot of people say, oh, did Jessel move to New York for the show? But here’s the thing, everywhere in the world has transplants, people who move Yeah, for whatever. So I don’t think there’s anything wrong, because whether Jess will move there for the show, or whether Jess will move there a couple years prior for COVID or hers or her business, doesn’t matter to me, because either way, not everyone on the cast is going to be a born and raised Salt Lake City or a born and.
He’s New Yorker. So what difference does it make if they make good television? Yeah, that’s my opinion on it. Like Meredith is an example. She obviously is a renter. Oh, my God, did you see the listing? I posted 35,000 and everyone’s Oh, do you think Bravo pays for that girl? Bye. I heard okay. So listen to this. I heard that somebody who was in talks with Miami, they claimed full time, this person who told me $3,000 an episode, so they’re not paying no $35,000 for rent. I don’t care how many seasons you’ve been on $3,000 an episode, that’s not a lot of money. No, that’s not a lot of money. I mean, especially if, when you’ve got a $35,000 rent check perm, yikes. Okay, I want to talk quickly about the valley, because this week we had Michelle from the valley. We know that they’ve just wrapped filming. She was doing a Q A on her Insta Stories and talking about Jesse about CO pet parenting being very difficult. I don’t know that she necessarily called Jesse out, but we all know who she’s talking about. Oh, I just she even answered a question like, How’s co parenting? And it was a video of her crying. This, my God, that is one of my biggest pet peeves. By the way, people crying on social media posts. I think it’s so performative. It’s also, thank god rare I don’t feel like I see it that much. Listen, I Okay, so I don’t want to negate that. This is hard. Okay, I certainly don’t want to negate that. But we were told by reliable sources that the whole narrative that Michelle is doing is although, because Michelle is the one who cheated on him for a long time, and she very much wants to show how bad Jesse is, which becomes harder to do, because a reality that is true is that people are more sympathetic to men for whatever reason, right? That is not me being a feminist. Maybe it is me being a feminist. But if he were the one cheating, we would all feel the same way. But yes, she was unhappy in their marriage. Yes, we saw the unhappiness. Yes. We saw him being a jerk, but you were cheating on him. So it’s like, maybe call it a draw, yeah? Yeah. Like, I think her best bet would be
so from what we heard, she just was dead set on her, on him being the bad guy. And I think she misplayed it. I think it would have been smarter of her to listen. Ultimately, Jesse came around, and by the time they were on their trip, I think it was Cabo, he was sitting on the boyfriend’s lap, and they were drinking and joking. And let that be what it is. Let it be that there were hard feelings at first, and he found a girlfriend, and you’re with the guy, and you’re working on co parenting successfully, and your personalities didn’t mesh great when you were married. So of course, you’re gonna butt heads, but the whole making him this awful, terrible terrible person. I don’t know. It’s not like Michelle is the warmest, kindest, easiest going person, right? Yeah, she’s a difficult personality. He’s a difficult personality. Let’s call it a draw. I agree. I think she has been trying to manipulate everybody into like her, into thinking that she has been the poor, downtrodden party in this whole thing, and it’s just backfired on her. And I’m surprised that she hasn’t seen that coming out of season one and then done exactly what you said, pivoted and been like, you know what? We’re all moving on. We’re trying to make the best of this. I think we could all respect that we can all respect like it hasn’t been the easiest. We both made mistakes, but we’re really trying to move forward and CO parent our daughter, who we both love, and it’s just it’s not working for her. And I just see, see right through this crying on social media, because I think, that they would especially about crying on social media, like it’s not reality TV, where it’s like you get you’re crying as a result of something that somebody says to you, and the cameras are catching it. She chose to post this later. She Yeah, she films it, and then chooses to film it. And I’m just not buying it. And there’s a whole category of content on social media, people making fun of other people, crying and freaking out on social media. Sell that somewhere else lady, and we’re not buying it, because she’s not this vulnerable person. Okay? If Britney were to do something like that, like we’ve seen, Britney has a lot everybody right? Nobody’s black and white. There’s gray areas to everybody but Britney does have this soft, sensitive side, even Kristen dowdy. But like, from Michelle, Michelle’s a reserved, yeah, it was so fabricated like her and Janet just shouldn’t cry on camera. They should just own the fact that they’re bitches. It’s okay. Stasia had the most successful career of the entire bunch, and she has always love.
Her or hate her, always own the fact that she is a true blue bitch, yes, yeah,
exact same thing. Just run with it, run with this villain thing, and go with it, because it can actually, I think it would get her a lot farther with all of us. I just want to end with, oh, with saying this. Alexis Bellino, Oh, good. I was hoping you were gonna bring this up. Who is probably the most hated housewife. I don’t know. OC always has, like people hated the Bronwyn. OC, I sure did. She took to her Instagram and she made this statement, okay, guys, and she said that she wants to let us know that what we’re seeing is her career. It’s not real. It’s not the truth. There is so much left out intentionally to paint me in a bad light. Alexis, boo, the smart move is to make production hate you, you idiot. Everyone else hates you. Let’s have production. It’s okay. She’s gonna take one for the team. It’s ratings, it’s her career. It’s business. She lives in her truth with Johnny jet. I i The career thing as it sent me, because I have a career. You have a career. You and I both know what career means. Thank God bless her. I just don’t think she knows what that word actually means. No,
but I watch. I was catching up on stuff because I was out of town, and I watched the watch happens live with her on it, and Johnny J wearing the weird scarf in the audience, and he was miked up and he was talking, and he hates the spotlight, though, guys, I it’s just, I just don’t, I don’t believe that there’s been anything that’s been like that bad and that crazy behind the scenes. Has Shannon probably struck back and has John told her Alexis that Shannon has said stuff bad things and been hard on his reputation, probably. But is any of it just like that, wildly different than what we’re seeing on TV? I don’t think so. Because if it was that big and that wild production would be showing it to us, and then you gotta love Vicky gumballson. If there’s one thing our girl Vicki gumbleson is gonna do, it’s gonna remind women to get a job.
He knows what a career is, though, to be fair, Vicky, and I would say Vicky has had two very successful ones, one in her insurance business and one on Real Housewives. And I would call what she has done on Real Housewives, absolutely, a career. Yes, Alexis being one and done. Not so much, she said. So she responded. So somebody else, a follower or whatever on a post said, Oh, this woman makes a fortune on this show and whatever. And she said, Vicki said she didn’t make a fortune this season. She was cast as a friend only if she thinks Real Housewives of Orange County is a career. She has a rude awakening. I don’t think she’s ever had a career. Maybe she should consider getting one, because hopefully this is a one season appearance career.
All we need to know about Alexis guys is on the last episode of OC when they’re playing Jenga, and Alexis goes first and takes a piece from the top.
I’m like, I can’t with you who I don’t know why. It surprised me that she doesn’t know how to play Jenga, but it did surprise me, the lights are just not on. They’re damn they’re dim at best.
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