88. Summer House Season Preview, SLC Reunion, Tres Amigas and Beverly Hills with Tasha from @thepopastrologist

Tasha from @thepopastrologist is here to talk all things Bravolebs and astrology. We cover a whole lot in this week’s pod, including:

What is she seeing in Lindsay Hubbard’s chart, and what could be contributing to her breakup with Carl?

What the heck is going on with Monica from Salt Lake City?

What astrology might be telling us about the real reasons Tamra, Vicki and Shannon are going through a very public friendship breakup.

Where are Kyle and Mauricio headed?

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV, celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from problem cocktails.com. And as always, it’s all alleged and just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. Be And I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tip
What’s up cocktail errs, and Amanda and our guests Tasha
Heiko Taylor’s Yes, we are so excited. We have a really fun guests with us today. Her name is Tasha you can find her on her Instagram account@agents.of dot Pluto on Instagram. She is an astrologer who often posts the charts of Bravo celebrities, and celebrities. So welcome, Pat shad are having me. I’m so excited. I literally am such a fan. I’ve such a fan. We’re so excited to have you. And I met Tasha because she inbox me shorts of Bravo labs. And I was like, This is so cool. And then she was like, Tell me your birthday. Tell me what time you were born. And then she like told me all about myself. And I’m like, Wait, do you know me? How Don’t you know all of this?
Because it was so spot on. And I encourage you guys to message her. And you can you can listen to obviously we just said it you could always ask me but it’s incredible. And I’m not somebody who like knows that much about a strike. It’s always interested me. I’m a Sagittarius, though. So what does that mean? Like it interests me but I know you’re onto it for all my bags out there. You know you’re interested in learning. Like it’s really about learning and new experiences and what can you learn and get meaning from those experiences? So definitely, like very scholarly, like, you’ll probably read a lot or you’ll probably like binge a lot. You know, it’s very saggy as well to be binging lotta con, I mean, I’m a scholar, Harvard Yale, call me scholar, bravo, honorary. I saw that post somewhere that said, everyone needs a Sagittarius in their lives. And I’m like, Oh, well, that’s B for me. But B can be everybody’s sad. Yeah, in their lives if you don’t have one. Yes. Crazy. Saj Okay, so before we get into the shows and the T there’s so much going on this week by Tasha. I’m hoping you can give us just a quick primer on what you do and like how it all works, because I know I am starting to get much more and interested in astrology over the last
and of three years, I’ve been reading a lot about it. But how do you explain just in layman’s terms to me and to our cocktail learners who might not know much about how all like what All right, right, right, so the best I can think of it is just plain simple energy. Like, you know, we all walk into a room, we kind of feel a vibe, whether you believe in it or not, right? Like, there’s something that just feels off and on. That’s kind of what astrologers do, they kind of read the room, they kind of read that energy. And so what I personally love to do in the context of Bravo and pop culture, is, you know, whenever I see an announcement, whenever I see a rumor, I think I got so sick and tired of all, you know, fake news, like what’s real, and what’s not that I’m like, let me go to the chart and see if there’s actually any truth to it. So you know, all of this, we’re born with a certain amount of energy, a certain kind of, like, social security number, or, you know, a unique blueprint. And you kind of try to read that energy and frequency. Very interesting. And so with all of that energy, kind of what I’m hearing you say is like, it’s energy that carries people for but not everything is like, No, you’re ordained, right? It’s it, people still have free choice at baglow, it’s just, absolutely and like, it is true, the only thing that is faded, that I believe is the choices you have to make. So you definitely still have free will, the events that come up short, that probably gets set up by uh, you know, kind of behind the scenes energetic force, whatever your beliefs are. But yeah, you still have so much agency, which is why predictions can sometimes be really tricky in this game. And I try to do my best to not kind of lean one way or the other. But sometimes things are so dampening that you know, it’s kind of like, you kind of have to just like call it call it like I remember when we talked about Kyle, and you know, people were speculating separation and stuff. And they were kind of backtracking. I remember looking at the chart and thinking, no, they’re going through stuff. And this is definitely a thing and whether they announced it or not, they’re definitely working through their marriage. So when you say like, give it agency, so if you were to say to me something like you saw like over you were talking to Kyle, and you saw this in her chart, can you stop the momentum of something? Or there’s some things you can some things you can’t does it happen in some way? Regardless, no, of your little, you know, what I’m saying? Um, it very much depends on the other person involved, right. So take, you know, Kyle, for example, she’s in a relationship, it’s in her marriage. So it also has to depend on what roe is doing. And whether he’s willing to meet her at her evolved level. Because I LOVE what Kyle’s doing. I love the energy she’s stepping into. And I know you know, she’s getting a lot of, or she got a lot of slack about, you know, not drinking as much or quitting drinking, working out, like all this focus on her health and her new lifestyle and, you know, uncut in astrology was kind of all there. And she’s kind of going through this really significant transformative period, which is why I think she’s actually going to leave Beverly Hills and not you know, necessarily, maybe next season but pretty soon sooner than you think. She actually today I saw a statement that she made that said she doesn’t want to live in Beverly Hills anymore. I guess she’s in this calmer place and Beverly Hills is so much hustle and bustle and chaos. Obviously, they’ll always maintain a residence there. But we had had a cocktail Blyden that had a lot of information in it. But one of the things the person said and it was an email. So you know, with our emails, it’s not the same as a source. We have to just kind of trust that it’s true, but they said she’ll be half she’ll have a planning on having a compound in Malibu, which I don’t know a ton about California, but Malibu certainly seems like a more chill place. Yeah, I would have honestly thought Oh, hi. With her new spirituality and stuff in Malibu, definitely. I mean, it makes sense. She has Venus in pisces, and being by water is going to be really spiritual and really calming for her. So cool.
Very, I mean, like, this is also fascinating to eat. Okay, so about an hour. Before we hopped on today, the summer house trailer just dropped. And we’ve seen a lot of kind of what we had posted in cocktail party. In the trailer. I mean, it, it looks like it’s gonna be a really good season. I mean, so it just dropped and I was like, Oh, here we go immediately. First few seconds. It’s Carl and Lindsey in Manhattan, having the conversation that we had posted that they filmed ending their engagement. And he says to her something like you’re the best victim or you’re so good at playing a victim. He says she’s going to claim she was blindsided. And then it goes into the summer where we see tons of fighting. We see the conversation that we also had posted about it
which was a conversation he had with his mom, and his stepdad, who was a minister, apparently. And the stepdad says, I don’t think YouTube should get married, I wouldn’t marry you if I were the person, you know, doing the nuptials. And we also see something which was pretty wild. And I posted it, but I was kind of watch what happens kind of thing. Where you see Carl say to her, You accused me of doing drugs. And that was something I had posted and heard that apparently, at some point, she either said to him or said to somebody in the house, that she thought that he was doing drugs, which we know he’s sober. So I know you watch the trailer, because we asked you were like, can we talk about this at the top of the show, because this is the hottest tea we got. And you said you had seen it. So Tasha Alice, which is one. I mean, I’ve been so invested in this relationship, just because like I really was rooting for them. But now seeing all of this and then looking at Lindsay’s chart, Lindsay is kind of going through like a really karmic period right now. And when I say karmic period, you know, we were talking about freewill just a little bit ago, she, this is kind of a moment the universe is setting up and like asking her Are you going to kind of repeat or move forward, right and today happens to be a New Moon in Capricorn, new moons are all about new beginnings. And it just so happened that it’s taking place in her most public facing part of her chart, her legacy her career, and that happens to form this tension with that karma around people pleasing, putting the relationship first over the self type of energy.
So fascinating. And I, I will say to like, what I found almost chilling, just knowing what we know from the tea that was sent into us, which we got from multiple very good sources about the breakup itself. But then seeing it on camera, the way that she was so calm, not a tear is not like not crying. I was like, What the heck is happening right now. Now, we do know that it was the same day, but it was a couple hours later. But come on, if you are blindsided. And you really, this was totally out of left field. A couple of hours is not going to stop those tears. I’m sorry. I mean, no, no, yeah, four months might not I hear I hear I’m like a really emotional like, you know, I get it. But for what it’s worth, Lindsay has gotten some pretty like, stoic and like warrior type of energy. I mean, we’ve seen her activate it. And that’s like a lower vibration of it. But this is it’s almost like there’s mad and then there’s like I am, I’m so incensed. I can’t even talk to you. You’re like so dead to me. All I have to do is just put my head down and need the clock on, you know what I mean? Like it’s very much that type of energy in her chart. So I totally I can tell I can understand it. I can understand it, but I can’t relate.
Would you say that energy is rare when speaking about like people’s energies? Or though I don’t think so it because what I’m speaking to specifically is, you know, for all my Scorpio people out there, I’m a Scorpio rising yet Lindsey has a Pluto Moon conjunction which makes her extra private about her emotions. And she also has Mars in Capricorn, which is basically like super power, super human energy. Like, CEOs have that energy. Like, Jeff Bezos has that energy and P Diddy, which is a really terrible name to bring up but you can kind of get that energy of like, I’m gonna put my emotions and shut them down to accomplish what I have to do. That makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense. And I also one thing I noticed from the trailer that I just found really interesting was, Ciara was very rude to Amanda. She was like, Do you something like Do you have a personality outside of a mandarin identity? Yeah, even while right brutal, brutal, brutal. I mean, CR is so cap CRS very vulnerable and we are in Capricorn season. Yeah. Okay. So tell us tell us about that. Because I kind of I like Sierra, but I kind of find her how old that is cap. I mean, Capricorns are born and like the depth of the winter, you know, they kind of had to endure a lot. So they’re not necessarily going to be the first to open up to you, but they’re kind of like the good parent. You know what I mean? Like, oh, if you fall down and like scrape your knee, they’re gonna like Come sit with you and help you and stop but they’re not going to. They’re not going to call you by any stretch like she’s not here for the coddling at all. Yeah, that that? Absolutely. And also, I think as a nurse like nurse
She’s have certain you know what I’m saying like Man, are they? You’re able to be stoic? Yes. Because you have to be obviously compassionate. But you have to be able to do. Yeah, right. The same way I would imagine a psychiatrist, a therapist, you have to be able to detach for your own mental health because you deal with such heavy stuff. And you know, nurses and physicians deal with such heavy stuff. I watched Dr. Nicole say it last night on Miami about how she’s able to detach because she’s so used to this, but like when it’s your friend, it obviously changes things, but I definitely see that element. Yeah, yeah, I would say no, I would lend that to like any Earth placement. You know, so Dr. Nicole is a Virgo. She’s like very Virgo, actually. And Ciara has all these cat placements, you know, if you want to think of like really grounded people who understand like, I have to get a job done and put my emotion aside to do it. Or sign Taurus is another sign as well.
So let’s say to with that, that scene was Sierra, I found it so I mean, yes, I do find her a little cold. I agree. But I almost I’m like that almost having to be edited out of context. Like there was a previous part maybe in a sentence is like saying like so and so sad. Right, you you you know what I mean? Because I’m like, those are fighting words. And I don’t see her coming on Amanda like that, but
I guess we’ll just we’ll have to wait and see. Okay, so I want to move to Salt Lake City because the reunion was this week. I thought it was really good. I know. You know, we got a lot of talk on OUR DISCORD SERVER about you know, you know what people were thinking. Monica definitely had some great lines. I feel like she really went after Lisa. And then of course, after Angie
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Yeah, I’m super interested. Tasha in your take on Monica’s chart, you know, oh, my big the big question looming. I’m sorry is will she be back and you know, I we Amanda and I get emails and I have sources tell me things I don’t really ever forget if people say Oh, she’ll definitely be asked back and now I have question marks and we got something that I posted today an insider source saying that if the ladies really revolt and refuse maybe she wouldn’t be but what are you seeing from that? Yeah, I It’s interesting. So Monica, I mean, classic it with all the line going on? We actually don’t know her birthday proper. Like the only thing I got confirmed from her directly recently was that she is in fact a Taurus but that in itself kind of gives me a little bit of information because the first half of this year so Jan through May is going to be big for Taurus is especially in April there’s kind of this break through type of moment coming so I would imagine that it’d be good for one year or if not it would kind of move on to another opportunity like this is not the last we’ve seen of Monica on TV is my read whether maybe comes I don’t know I feel like right you see enough of the girls trip villain that gets thrown around right like I wonder Oh, she’ll be on how Seville in season two writers. Three Listen, she’s good TV and it doesn’t hurt that she is gorgeous, really, really stunning. I mean that’s Taurus stuff too. You know like Taurus is are ruled by Venus, the planet of love Aphrodite, like anything sensual you can kind of think of that’s Venusian energy. So what you’re saying is most Taurus is have a fat brother. I don’t know.
Saying they thought they had that for the flesh. You know what I mean? Like, physical touch is important to Taurus is and if they’re not getting a know of it, they might go find that elsewhere and but their loyals held though Taurus is a really, really loyal, so you got to really push them, or in this case really, you know, be a really terrible human being for whatever you did to Monica, you know in the context of your marriage. But well listen, Monica does she did come out and say that she was a victim of domestic violence. And I see a lot, a lot of people have messaged me or said, Oh, how do we know? That isn’t? I don’t ever question a woman who says that? I would like to believe that that is not something anybody would fabricate. So that would be a huge push to someone else. What’s interesting about that is her statement that she released, you know, and again, this is something I speculated I don’t think she was born in 1984. I think she is 1983. And it is because of the symbolism pulled from the birthday in 1983. And like early May, that lined up with a statement that made sense to me. So I hope someone if anyone actually knows her birthday, please let me know. But if not, there’s like, definitely abuse child, like there’s a lot kind of physical violence on her self type of energy wounding around that, like it’s all very, very compact and close. And it’s very intense. So, you know, this is a little off topic. But I have to ask you, this sat off topic. It’s an astrology question. But it’s also the Monica topic.
If I if someone told you their birthday, and whatever info you need, would you be able to know to yourself like, I can vibe with this person? Or this person is older me? Or does it really be? Well, here’s the thing, there is definitely easier energy flows than others. Let’s put it that way. It’s whether you want to work at it or not. Gotcha. Okay, so like, if you get a new job, somebody could reach guys, this is great at Tosh is here for you could reach out and be like, yes, my coworkers birthday, this is my boss’s birthday. And you could be like, You guys are gonna be great, or like, it’s gonna be Oh, crap to deal with me. That’s kind of what I did for. So I used to actually work on Wall Street, and then I quit to be, you know, an astrologer full time. And that all I would do whenever we would like interview people behind the scenes, I’d like, huh, this version is gonna maybe cause me a little bit of a headache to manage, like, you know, they’re very areas, they’re very, like strong minded and strong willed very Vicki. So I’m like, I don’t know if there’s going to be a good relationship for me. So you know, definitely factored for me for sure.
That’s wild. That is fascinating. Guys, we’re gonna get into the details of the Salt Lake City, we still have two more parts. I really want Tasha to take us like, we have Tasha here. So I want to rather than talk about what we all watch in our opinions, which we can do next week, I want to get to more charts, if that’s cool. Yeah, you guys. I haven’t I haven’t been there. Monica, question for you. Tasha. Can you tell just based on because I know you can you could you have your thoughts based on what her birthday probably actually is? Based on what she said? Can you tell like, what her motivations are, like what might be moving her to act?
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I would imagine got taken down by like, whatever she’s pulling right now happened to her in a past life in some capacity. Because you see, you’re moving karmically away from like, potentially, oh, I am all about the truth. But then let me get perspective. It’s not just my truth. That’s the right truth. And I need that perspective. And there’s like a big sort of Clash around it. So, you know, she’s definitely here to learn, you know, especially if I think about this with her mother wound as well, like that was really tough to watch. But that is a really strong element of healing, like in partnership with her mother that she, you know, they both have to kind of arrive at a better understanding of each other sides. So that is what I see based on this chart. And it kind of fits a little bit, you know, with what we’ve seen on the show, but honestly, I mean, she has this placement in this chart, Venus opposing Neptune, which is what really got my attention. Venus is female, you know, potentially female relationships. Gemini is like gossip, slander, social gatherings, but it’s like in opposition to Neptune, which is a tough aspect. Wait, did you say Gemini? Yeah. For the I mean, flat here. I have to tell you something. My husband is a Gemini. No, my husband is a Gemini. And I wish I legitimately started this account, and it thrives in COVID Because I had nobody to quicken gossip with because I was stuck in my house because my husband won’t gossip or maybe
He just doesn’t like housewives but even about like people eat out here in Chile and Well, I think gossip is like a low vibration. So maybe your hobbies actually like, you know, a high vibration where he like understands what he needs to filter because the issue the fulcrum on Gemini is filter how much of a filter Do you have before the thought leaves your mouth? Or maybe he just gossips about like sports and who’s traded somewhere?
Maybe that’s, I saw Bill Bell and Chuck today and all the NFL Coach firing like, wow, listen, my husband is a Jets fan and they had I mean, they’ve had a lot of pretty bad seasons but they just beat at I joked with him and I was like, did he get a five Do you think because they they lost to the world? I’m in the NFL. I’m a pad fan. I am devastated. But again if you asked me that I see it coming I looked at bills chart and I’m like yeah, the kind of writing on the wall a little bit so you know, oh my god wait, why don’t you are you big into gambling because you could do like sports betting on no one’s gonna I actually have a friend out in Arizona who is also like a spiritual strat, like type of person but we both love fantasy football and sports. So we actually like did talk about putting a podcast together talking about like our observations for like fantasy football drafting and sports betting potentially.
I think that would be sociis it’s you know what i This is for everyone listening to this is a great idea. This is a great day period to like, drop your idea down on paper like set intentions like I know the New Year in theory started on Jan one but for energetic purposes and for like actually getting shit done. Today is the day to like really list and hone in on your intentions. But they’re going to hear this either tomorrow or Saturday. Yeah, so absolutely. Like this energy is really really potent. And on Saturday, like there’s just extra stuff to like, bolster it. So you might even actually end up getting more clarity on Saturday, which is pretty thick, guys. You’re welcome.
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I’ll give five No, no. Well, we have to split the 10% in three ways. Whatever. I’ll take one person because I’m just so happy to be here. Thank you
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so I mean I guess while we’re talking about it because now I’m I’m really curious too because I mean it feels like the things that that you can see really do transcend so many different parts of life. Like if a cocktail are reached out to you what like what are some of the things that you can do with cocktail hours? Like can you you can do their charts like time
me a little bit of Yeah. So it’s funny because I’ve, I’m, I’m like very spiritual in the fact that I believe like, whenever I encounter someone or a client comes to me, it’s like, this was supposed to happen, there was a message like I have for you type of energy. But otherwise, I do these hour sessions with clients. So people come to me, mostly, admittedly, when they feel like they just have no idea what’s going on, but are like going through so many life changes, and they’re like, Am I crazy, but then I also get clients that, you know, I feel this internal shift, and I don’t know what’s happening. And what I like to think I offer is sort of an ability to make you feel seen in a space where it’s just yeah, if this was supposed to be a confusing time, it’s supposed to be confusing. You’re not supposed to have the answers. And I think it helps people understand like, there are rhythms to life. But what I love is, honestly, I can see a lot in a chart. It’s, it’s like art, and you kind of interpret it as creative as you want to get with it, you know. So I think one of my favorite interpretations was Drake wanting to buy all his wine or like having this Birkin collection for his future wife. Like, he had literally placements in the chart that showed fantasy and purchasing things for like partnership. So it’s like really cool when you can see stuff like that. But people use astrology to like, pick a date to do like couples synastry readings to like, better understand your partner. It’s something people use were, as a, I would say, complemented therapy sometimes as well. So it’s, you know, it’s more than just like, Oh, I’m an Aries. And that’s it. Like, there’s so much you can do with it. That’s really helpful. So yeah, I love it. I know, when I first when I first when Tasha and I were first talking, we were just talking about Bravo liberties. And then I was like, could you read my chart? And I actually had, and I know that this is something Amanda would be interested in and a lot of our followers and listeners, I had her Amanda read both my kids charts. And that was even more mind blowing to me than I think my own chart.
Yeah, I am would be very interested in that too. Because a funny thing. My son was born on my birthday. So I don’t know, I just I think that’s I am just very curious, like, just having the same birthday. Does that mean anything? Or is it totally dependent on, you know, where the moon placements and anyway, so I would be very interested in doing that just I think the synastry to that, that would be such a fun date night to like, do that, and then go out for dinner and talk about it with your partner. But that wasn’t fun. But okay, here’s what here’s now, this is what we have to know. And I know, I’m not the only one who just thought this but what if like Amanda’s in a new age relationship. And so like, at listen, I’m married since I’m 26. So if you read us, and it’s that we’re not compatible, then guess what? Figured it out? Right? But I feel like you’d have to like, I don’t know, even still, after all these years, if you’ve read us, and you would you tell the people like Oh, yikes. Or would you kind of just try to make flowery? Like, what do you do? Honestly, I, I’m, I’m kind of a pretty direct person. I feel like I say a lot without actually saying what I’m supposed to say it’s I feel like that serves me very well, in conversations like this. But you know, here’s the thing, when I say tough synastry I just kind of call it out, right? Like, Hey, I just I want to acknowledge, like certain friction in your relationship. And it’s not, you know, if you’ve been having squabbles around it amazing, because you’re showing how that friction is working. And now how I can help you is figure out how to meet sort of a middle ground and how to actually arrive at a better compromise. Because now you understand how the other person works. You understand specifically like, what underlying motivation is behind this friction for the both of you. So you know, it kind of cultivates more self awareness by like calling out. I don’t think you should like anything is I’ve seen some bad charts and also maybe allows a, and also maybe allows for the person to provide their partner with some Yeah, absolutely. Right. It’s all about humanizing. Because, right? Because there’s such a difference between, I don’t know, I guess it’s when you know, something isn’t? Obviously we’re all in control of ourselves, right? But when you know, something’s almost natural to a person, it’s different than it because when partners fight the assumption is that your partner is purposely doing this to hurt you. And that’s not necessarily always the case, right? Like leaving a white towel on the floor, like something silly like that, or not taking out the trash or like things like, you know, things like that, that normal couples, like will squabble about, like, maybe one person takes it personally because you know, and then the other person was like, Oh my gosh, I was so on my own world. I didn’t even realize I did it. Right, right and like getting some getting some light around that. I think can take some of the sting or some of the annoying
And so way, when you kind of know better that like, oh wait, this person is never actually going no, it’s totally I mean, I honestly think eventually like my practice will evolve more into the couples element of it now I you know, I focus on the individual and comp I do couples but I really love working with couples and really kind of massaging out like what’s actually a real problem versus what’s kind of a ego problem here. And we can go from there, right? Okay, well, let’s get back into maybe a, let’s say, a threesome relationship that has just gotten through a breakup that threesome in the sexual way. I don’t think
the trace amigas from OC. So for those of you guys who have not, are not familiar, maybe some people are not on social media as much, but just starting, I think it was Sunday, we kind of woke up to this war happening on social media. So Tamra Vicki and Shannon from the OSI have called themselves to chase me guys. Recently, in the last year, they did a few live shows. And I you know, have not seen one of these shows. But apparently during the show, drinking shots was a big part of that, which makes sense. They did that on the show as well. Right. So then Shannon got her DUI this fall, and T Ambra. On two T’s in a pod very publicly, via her podcast was asked how she felt about doing an upcoming show in Phoenix and Tamra shared that she was uncomfortable. And she was uncomfortable during the show because of Shannon’s DUI. And she said, I thought in a pretty loving way without shaming or you know, she just said I was very she was very shocked. She had just gotten the news about what had happened. And that she was uncomfortable with the idea of doing the show. She was about to leave, I guess to go to traders. And so then she kind of you know, we didn’t hear from her for about a month because she went off to go to the show. Well, apparently, when she got back they did go and do the show in Phoenix and that was the last one because at over the weekend, Tamra announced that she is doing a new live show on I think it’s January 25, with Teddy, her podcast partner plus Emily from the OSI and literally all hell broke loose because there was one nasty comment after another between Vicki and Tamra publicly on social media, including Tamra has the hang, she feels like she just took the biggest dump of her life.
Yeah, meaning she feels very relieved and happy to open outside and to have gotten that out of her life.
I meet so be What do you think so? And I’ve kind of been saying this for a while. My thoughts is that and I’m very interested in what Tasha is going to say about their charts because I do think that there was a certain loyalty that Tamra has first to Vicki, because although Tamar is not a true OG. She’s from the beginning more so than the other women currently on the cast. And there were periods where Tamra was very close with Vicki and similar was Shannon, there is some sort of feeling that it benefits her to stick together with them. And I think that they feel the same way. I think that their trace amigas jig gig, whatever, has always been a relationship of convenience. That’s my feeling. I think that I think there was a time when Tamra may have had some authentic feelings of friendship with Vicki but I think when Vicki called Edie gay, although seasons ago, maybe at one time they were sisters soulmates, best friends. But after that it was a relationship of convenience, especially when they were both let go. Vicki and Shannon. I mean, I mean, Vicki and Tamra Shannon, she made up with this season, it seemed very self serving, it didn’t seem authentic. And I think that now that tamaraws podcast has really gotten very successful since she’s been back on the show. I don’t, I felt like she didn’t need them as much. And then once I saw, I felt like she did the trace amigas sort of as a favor to them. But also she was making a couple bucks and she was relevant. And then the DUI was a bad look, look, these social media counts myself and everybody else posting what a bad look it is to do this show. It’s bad press. She has another option, whereas Vicki doesn’t. She has this very successful podcast that is at Bravo con. They were the podcast that interviewed all the housewives and you know, I just I said it and crown on the podcast by the end essence and I’ve said it. Tamra has loyalty to the show. She doesn’t have loyalty to anybody on the show past
present or future? So I’m curious. And I am kind of curious how that would work with Teddy, right? Because I think that she genuinely does like Teddy, but things get hot, and then they’re not. And so I wonder, given a better offer that kind of thing if she do the same to Teddy. And so I guess let’s focus on the trace amigas to start like, what do you see with their charts in their energies? And they have ability so I think you’re what you just said there was so spot on naturally in the chart, I think. So Vicki is an Aries and Shannon is also an Aries. So she can Shannon actually, if like you want to talk about, you know, really fun synastry together, that’s the two of them. They have a lot of fun. You know, it’s it is very tres amigos like they’re synastry together. And in fact, like, Vicki actually helps Shannon, you know, break out of her shell and like be more comfortable. And they both kind of emotionally get each other on a different level. Even if maybe it will be interesting to see now, especially with you know, Shannon not drinking. Well, first of all, she’s still drinking. Right. Is that a fair? That’s fair. Well, FYI. I don’t think that making healthier Yeah, it’s it’s tough, right? Because like, here’s the thing, like on our part, she’s not adding any sugary mixers to her tequila health at first guys, you know, it, it’s really funny because I really feel like there was some really important lessons that Shannon had to learn this time around like her DUI happened, like during her second Saturn Return, which is literally something everyone, like kind of goes through at 59, which is like an emotionally maturing period where you’re like reflecting back on your life and learning and hopefully, you know, you can kind of end your life with like, I’m hopeful and I’m happy versus I’m coping type of energy. So I’m really hoping that Shannon isn’t coping. But you know, back to that synastry The funds in history that Shannon and Vicki share, because you know, they’re both Aries the Royal and like don’t like butt heads, but they won’t like they’ll annoy each other’s almost like a sisterly relationship, but they won’t. Nothing’s ever going to like last for very long, they can kind of come back at it really quick. It’s not the same case with Tamra, Vicki and Tamra have like this opposing type of energy relationships where it is very opposites attract. And I think that it’s really interesting that maturity or that period of maturation that Shannon is going through, I can see it also in tamaraws chart, just completely opposing causing tension to everything about Tamra really. So it makes sense that they’re kind of splitting like this. And it’s interesting what you said earlier to be about like the fairweather friends with you know, because it’s in Vicky’s karma to kind of not actually deal with that anymore. She kind of has to cultivate friendships that are honest, that are true that are consistent with her truth. Like, yeah, I feel like we’ve seen that at when she came back as a friend this season. I really feel like we saw a different Vicki lesson. She’s still Vicki. But I do like she would say things like, I don’t want to do this anymore. I don’t want to have these confrontations and you know what I’m saying? So it’s interesting that that’s in her chart, because I feel like we saw that. And I also think it’s interesting that you said, Shannon, like the Saturn and she was supposed to look back and appreciate and grow from it and not be coping because I that is like, Shannon, I feel like she’s just constantly coping. You know, like things happen to people and she’s fighting learning the lesson right and doing something. Right. Even with her divorce. I mean, of course, it’s upsetting, but she dragged it out for a year. She was still bitching about it. It’s like, at a point. Yeah, I mean, what I would say like there was something interesting recently that I like just study where you know, Saturn in Pisces, Saturn is about
boundaries, restriction, karma learning, and Pisces can sometimes be your victim story. So there is sometimes a question around who the real victim is in the situation that Shannon has to like, learn lessons around or about. Do you see because I can’t really quite explain why. But I am always rooting for Shannon. I really I don’t have bees probably laughing I because I just don’t I just don’t cosign rooting for her. I know you don’t, and we don’t. But you said something last week on a card and you told me that when a woman decides she’s going to be her own hero is when her story gets great. And yet there you are. This woman is wealthy. She has three beautiful, healthy, intelligent, successful daughters. She’s got everything going for her and she chooses to focus on the fact that she
Expand Mangle. I don’t have sympathy by that a perfect example of choose the perfect example of what I’m talking about. Because she sees herself as the victim all the time. She is not looking at herself to be the heroine in her own story. She is not saying like, I am going to do all this like, it’s like she’s constantly looking to other people to save her, not for her save herself. Like she to me. She is like, the perfect example. But I like just because she’s not being the heroine in her own story. I don’t know, I have no great reason. I just remember her like, what do you see Tasha? I think he so much disagree with who she is like, I don’t, I’m not okay. The glass was half full. The glass is half empty. I’m the sort of person who believes the glass is refillable, right? There are times when it’s full. There are times when it’s empty, and it’s up to us to refill it. And I don’t know, I don’t have sympathy for Shannon. I’m sorry. Go ahead, Tasha, what I would say to that, and actually, Shannon would get along with Burgos. I think there’s like a natural harmonious flow that kind of exists. I’m sure. Look at that. Lisa, already a little more sympathy because you can kind of like, even if you can’t, if you can’t sign off on it, you can kind of like, I feel you girl on like a deep level or in some way because you’re trying to like cheat. And what Shannon is trying to do is like, maintain control but clearly is failing at it. She’s not in control. And that’s like the hardest thing to break to her. And it’s funny because you know, I think the her first season she came on, right? And she like had said she had like diamonds in her teeth or something or like gems in her teeth. Because she was like, a warrior and a general in a past life. Like, I looked at the chair and I’m like, Yeah, she definitely probably could have been intrapreneurial in a path like Like, she probably like has that energy. And now it’s like she’s kind of learning the other side, karmically you think about it, because she has to actually accept her emotions. She cast she she’s not a leader anymore. She gets to like take a load off and literally sit with her feelings and be okay not feel like she has to just keep charging on. Like that’s the karma falling through I feel. Yeah, I don’t know. I just because I’m running for doesn’t mean I’m like, you don’t want to just like go abroad or like yo, like us obligate yourself as a victim like I don’t know, I just I want to see good things for her. I don’t know what the tension because like, you know, anyway, okay, so with Tim Rob, like, back to kind of the second part of what we were talking about with her with Teddy. Like what do you see with Tamar? Do you see this like loyalty to herself above everything else? Do you see that she has the ability to be loyal? Yeah, Ted well, so what’s interesting is Teddy is very Cancerian which cancers on Bravo just really not having the best moment I feel like as of late between the men and the woman both but cancers in Virgos actually make a really really good duo. Like they kind of buzz off each other Tamra had her camera for the record is one of the Virgo just Virgos to walk Bravo ever. Because Virgos are kind of spicy aren’t theirs. They’ve got a really good sense of humor. And they’re very mercurial so like they they’re flexible, like they can kind of adjust and edit accordingly. It’s also a sign very concerned with health. Hence, herself producing on the Virgo is very, I mean, just fells Virgo, you know, there is producer behind there you go. And it’s really from the behind the scenes element. How can I make this moment better? They were Virgo. You’re like it’s all for the art. And the final result? Yeah, my daughter’s a Virgo. And that makes so much sense because she’s always like, the boss, but like does it in a way that yeah, it is obvious. Yeah, it’s um, it’s the subtle and she’s just a little kid so I can only imagine.
You know, like Virgos I love Virgo energy. Beyonce is a Virgo. Like, it’s, you know, it’s very much I understand the assignment and I’m gonna crush the assignment. And I feel like that’s what time we’re doing. So the OSI like, you want drama, I got you. Boom.
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totally, but Teddy is kind of a little bit of a WebSocket. So, you know, a lot of cancer. She’s very sensitive. She’s very sensitive. She very intercell. I actually think Tamra does is capable of that because she has her Venus also in Virgo. And that’s on her son. And I mean, it’s very selective. But yes, Tamra is going to try to put her first and she has to feel like she’s in control of the relationship a little bit. And I think that Teddy is the sort of person that when she really enjoys somebody loves them, we see it with Kyle. She’s okay with that. Like, and because she’ll be so loyal if she picks somebody right. Like she picked Kyle. She picked Tamra, she’ll be fiercely loyal to them. And I think that Tamra needs that. Yeah, the same way like Tamra has had a happy marriage with Eddie all these years and he very much defers to her seems she’s like kind of like takes the lead in their relationship. And I think that she can have happy relationships with people who allow her that whereas Vicki and Shannon and her it was just like it like a game of chicken who is going to be the Boy Yeah, absolutely. Spot on. Okay, so we touched on Kyle and Mauricio, but you know, to read and PK have a lot of split rumors, swirling them. And I got a little cocktail party scoop here this week, a follower was at juried show in London sidenote, apparently, allegedly, this person said that PK said Kyle’s a lesbian now, I guess they’re not on the best terms. I’m not saying that’s true. I’m just saying this is what this person said. And I asked, I was like, Did you see them interact? And how did they seem? Because there are rumors that they split. And kind of like the feeling is that maybe they’re not talking about it, because they’ll confirm it next season. That would be their storyline. And this person said, Listen, my I just saw them. But she felt that they very much seemed like a happy couple. And he was waiting for her in the car. And they didn’t seem like there was any, any turmoil between that. So what about their charts? So I’ve kind of got a bold prediction. If I’m wrong, I will own the fact that maybe they decided to really, really, really work things through and pull through, but I think they’re deaf. dunzo so I have a very good source who told you that? I mean, I think though, alleged alleged allegedly, I think there’ll be an announcement in April. I think, if not April, we’ll see development come out in October, because also right now the new moon and Capra will aid will make sense Tasha and Amanda because when does the season end And so right after the season ends let’s put that out there and secure my contract and that’ll be my timeline is perfect. I think in her chart I mean, it’s really crazy because she’s got a lot she’s also very cancer you know, she’s a cancer Sun Venus and cancer and mercury in cancer. So how do we operate is very my emotions above everyone emotions, first type of narcissism a little bit, but at a low vibration, but she’s in having a lot of stimulus to that Venus, like Pluto is this planet of transformation, finances, rebirth, literally like death and ending of things in order to call in something better. That’s been forming like a really tense aspect on DairyNZ Venus that loves language that values that style. So we’ve seen her style change. We’ve heard all these rumors and I mean, if I think about like a celebrity who had a Pluto Venus situation, Taylor Swift is literally the last Liberty I can think of off the top of my head. And that was when she and Joe all when were speculated to broken up and I’m like, they’re definitely done. Pluto hit her Venus. Like it’s not to say it’s not possible. It’s just if there’s smoke, and then there’s this activation, there’s definitely fire in my mind. Yeah, I heard that and some things. Also, I think last night’s episode was telling because they were they were with the therapist, and you just saw that there were real issues there. Like this wasn’t a storyline. This wasn’t a like they’re there.
some real stuff. They’re like, she’s fed up with him. And he’s fed up with her. And they’re not hearing each other. And they’re sort of Yeah, there was no compromise there. And they kept it tongue in cheek. I do believe, though, that they be able to keep it amicable, which is why heat listen, he goes to her show, it’s boy Georgia show, right? And they have two young kids. And regardless of what happens, you want people to be amicable and able to get along and all of that sort of stuff. So well, and just total sidenote, I’m sorry. But if I was going to a couples therapy, and my partner brought a beer, brave to real angry my like, what? Like, can we just take this seriously, it makes it, it would just make me feel the whole session, like the other person wasn’t taking me seriously. Or any of it seriously. I wholeheartedly agree with that. I saw that and I was, but again, also, it kind of made me think something’s really going on, because that’s something you do if you have nerves, because you’re not just filming a scene now. Like, you’re kind of really showing stuff. Yeah, he right. Yeah, I felt that that was very telling. And as I say, I’ve had a source who sad like, they’re holding it together for now. But so I just feel like when the season is wrapped, or quote, like, the reunion films and all that they’re gonna, and what’s interesting is cut like we thought, because I had heard a lot that Kyler Murray show we’re having trouble during filming. But it wasn’t really confirmed. It was just people saying it. And I was kind of like, no, because we hadn’t seen any of it. And what I’m finding interesting, as I’m watching, like last night’s episode, where he wasn’t even at her best friend, who very sadly passed from suicide, like that’s her lifelong friend. So obviously, Mauricio has been friends with her for 25 plus years as well. Like the mom was even like, where’s Mauricio like? So everybody knew they were split. And it’s all there. It’s, it’s all this season. It’s not the last episode like Sandoval where it really happened during filming, like they knew they were going to this was going to be their storyline from the first episode, she sat down and said, I’m very clear about who I am and what I want and nobody’s in charge of me and all that we’re seeing it they just somehow really kept a lid on it. And there weren’t too many leaks other than the rumor that there were issues but we didn’t know the extent of it. Not like how, I mean, she’s basically introducing her girlfriend to everyone at that party. When when Kyle’s when Kyle said to Morgan, because I go back and forth. And we’re, of course going to ask your opinion on that on whether that’s a love connection. But when Kyle said to Morgan last night, took off her heels and said, Oh, you like when I’m not taller than when when I’m a lot shorter than you. That’s nothing. That’s not something I’ve it was a very romantic vibe there. Yeah. Tasha, it’s, um,
I would say that Heil is learning to explore a new dimension of herself. And I say that to say, you know, there’s a certain placement in Kyle’s chart Reiki in Aquarius, which means like someone that she would be attracted to, if she were to actually listen to what her soul once is someone that is a little bit of a rebel, someone that exists outside of her existing community, someone that can really kind of so the symbolism is all there in the chart, honestly, right. So Morgan, or it could be somebody else yeah. And you know what, Kyle is Venus in pisces So honestly, like, Kyle is very much a one love type of person and doesn’t really at the heart of it doesn’t actually care about you know, gender and things like that. Like, I think you see her evolution and how she’s like more comfortable talking about the relationship or at least like trying to show which is actually really funny because she also has Mars in Scorpio, which in their fourth house, which basically means like, she’s such an amazing behind the scenes maneuver. And, you know, anytime you have like that Scorpio placement, like Lindsey has that same placement same with Kyle and Kyle can be very stoic when shits hitting the fan. So you kind of see that similar type of energy move through even though I have to say I find that a little frustrating that leading up to the season, she wanted to like, act shocked and in awe and it’s just my friend. Why are people doing this? And then in last night’s episode, sit down and say, Yeah, I date a woman, like, okay, and we’re all crazy, and we’re all totally you know what I’m saying? Like it’s not I think I think Kyle is both trying to figure it out on her like she’s figuring out in real time how she wants to navigate it and then she’s like trying to be covert about it all at once and she’s testing the waters so I mean, it’s a pretty big change for someone to be going through I think you know, at this point in your life but their family and she wants to be a
in control of it, and how and when it’s rolled out. So it’s safe, it’s safe, it keeps her safe, if she’s gonna let go of a lot of other things in her life that, you know, she can kind of maybe have this element of control, and it can make her feel more secure making this type of transition. So with the transition, like when we were talking about speculating about PK into REITs relationship, and then we know that Mauricio and Kyle, you know, have announced that they’re separated when you look at this industry, can you see whether they will have an amicable split or not, you know, you know, as he was asking, like, you know, do we, it looks like they could be amicable? Well, I don’t you know, what’s funny, I don’t actually know what PKS birthday is. But with Maria and Kyle, I can totally see them staying friends. Like, to be honest, I think that’s why you kind of see this messiness play out a little bit, because I think, as a society, you know, we’re not really used to seeing people try to figure out overnight, if we’re not like, in a couple together, like in this capacity, how can we honor the history that we have, and make things work, you know, overall, the collective is going into this new era? I don’t know if people were listening, like, you know, feel it in the air. But there is a huge shift. I mean, last summer, you know, we saw all these breakups happen, people were starting to, like, step more into themselves. And, you know, with, I think de Blasio and his wife are separated, but they still live together. And there’s sort of, that’s the former mayor of New York City, for those of you who aren’t, but
you can kind of see that, okay, relationships are evolving. It’s not just the same, okay, we’re going to get a divorce, we’re gonna, you know, it’s clear cut what’s going to happen, it’s, there’s a little more room to play, because maybe we value the relationship we had, but we also value our evolution. I can see that for Kyle and Mauricio, for sure. But Marissa is definitely going through his midlife transits in his chart. So you know, we’re just kind of observing until he gets out of it. So that’s why he was dancing nude with Brazilian singers and Manyata in Aspen. I mean, honestly, like, there was a big activation like his starts getting activated right now from this perspective of like, I need to have fun I need to it’s like, you know, the classic like, I need to chase my youth because I maybe work so hard a lot of my life and do not have this type of energy that you can see that really, yeah, final question. But call Yeah, we’re gonna have to wrap up. And this has been so much fun and your comments. This has been amazing. I’m having a lot of fun. But okay, but now I need to ask you this. Yesterday, I posted I’m not sure if you guys saw up. Amanda knows I’ve heard from a couple sources that Bravo Khan is on hiatus. So we won’t have a Bravo con 2020 for the exact reason I’m not exactly. I think it’s the Olympics. I think it’s an election year. I think there’s a lot going on at an ABC or NBC, NBC, NBC, but like, more than one person, like whose aide told me this, do you see that being true? Because I want this on record, but I’ll regret it when it does happen. And I broke on athlos white around November ish I October.
That November, November.
It was November because remember, we both had the rights with family but the year before I think Yeah. Tober it but until about November. That’s like right. After eclipse season. I I mean, I actually think Yeah, I think it kind of holds true. I don’t think maybe Bravo Khan vitals would be like a yearly thing anymore. I think maybe like I don’t know, I can see it evolving and shifting into like a different format, even outside of what it is right now. There’s just like a big institutional shake up. So thing people are just going to do things very differently. And honestly, like, this is gonna be a wild like April 1 of all for everyone involved, like April is just going to be a huge month for everyone. So everyone, there’s really like, American Eclipse going over the state, please. Not another not another client. Another COVID. But it definitely, I mean, it’s definitely gonna be a pretty big deal. So like, whether you’re feeling that on a personal level, whether like stuff is happening in the world, just like and kind of like, keep this in the back of your mind. Like, oh, yeah, April really picked up.
What mark and how in the world. And Amanda and I purposely don’t address that here because I think people come home, do not go without saying the state of Lauer. shitshow
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