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What’s up pack Taylor’s and Amanda. Hi v hi pack Taylor’s. It’s we’re in that somebody called it the liminal week, which I’m not 100% sure I understand. I think liminal means like, I don’t know what it means. We’re in that week. We’re doing Christmas and New Years. And yeah, how was your How was your Christmas? It was really great. Lots of food and wine and preservatives and nitrates.
I feel puffy. But other than that, I feel really good. No, it was great. It was great to spend time with family and the weather in New York was kind of mild, which is kind of cool when you have house you know, house full of kids. They were all like in and out which was good. It was really nice. How about you? It was really good. Yeah, everyone is asking me literally need to know how your Yorkshire pudding went.
Okay, first of all, I have to do a big shout out to one of our clock tailors because she reached out on Discord with some tips and I did figure out what Yorkshire pudding is.
It’s like it is it’s like a savory souffle and it actually turned out amazing. So the tip from the cop Taylor was to do it in a cast iron and to preheat the cast iron in the oven so it like puffs up really big so it’s like eggs flour and then like a little drippings from the roast and I mean it was it was we had an amazing meal I got some absolutely delicious it was so good yeah and like I had some wine from like a previous like I don’t know Napa trip a long time ago that I open it was like Christmas might as well and then I was looking at it because it was like gosh, I want to buy some more that it was so good. It was like a 2007 bottle but like it’ll probably be expensive. I knows like oh my god that was a $500 bottle
like retail restaurant I was like No wonder it was so good. That Oh yeah, lots of wine lots of food. I actually made these delicious cinnamon rolls that take 10 minutes compared to the like hour and I mean it takes forever when you make homemade ones because you know you have to make the dough let the dough rise roll out the dough like nobody I would say very yes very comparable to my
Mom’s so I’ll have to add that to the recipes. Oh, please do that up. Yeah. 1010 minute anything is really my jam. Yes. It’s like perfect for like a cold winter’s day the only thing you have to do is you have to remember to let that like put them in a pan the night before so they can rise in the fridge. That’s the hardest step. So I’m in South Florida and I’m currently you saw me in a fuzzy sweater. And leggings because it’s storming outside. But yesterday we had a great day. Oh, oh, good. Are you going to ask me say look, I got a little son a little I was by the time we got settled, like we flew in Tuesday, but we were all shot holidays, whatever. We just basically went to the condo got lunch went to the condo passed out. So then yesterday, we had to get every you know, the thing that’s nice about a hotel is you just like show up when it’s your condo. You have to like set it up when you get there. But anyway, I arrived in South Florida groceries do all of that. Yes. And there. I was on Las Olas. And on the menu of the place I was eating there was tra pop. Oh, so I ordered it. You know Austin’s beer. Yeah. So I ordered it. They were out of it. There was no more left. So disappointing.
Okay, good for Austin though. I tagged him in it. He shared it. Yeah, but very good. And I think he’s in a bunch of places in in Florida. Speaking of Fort Lauderdale, a cocktail or just messaged me, they spotted Taylor on a flight with a new guy. Apparently it’s that guy guest on who is the roommate of one of the southern hospitality. I want to say JT, TJ, I don’t know. I’m TJ. Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, they said she was very affectionate. She actually posted him to her story. And I don’t know if I’ve seen him before, but very handsome. So she’s moving on. But I also this morning, so the preview for the season finale, where JT finally declares his love for Taylor. Then we see him standing on what I assume is a chair or a barstool because he’s the same height as Austin. And Austin pushes him. And it just made me wonder like, is he going to be back? Because you could tell on the show? I mean, because you can tell he’s not friends with them. But they sort of had him on because he’s got a successful business in Charleston. And I guess they figured he keep the story moving, because he doesn’t have loyalty to the guys. So in that way, I think he’s worked out but I would say he’s very unlikable. Yeah, I think I find him to be annoying. I thought Madison’s impression of him was hilarious. This is love. I love Madison. Yeah, I mean, I don’t know. And I gotta say, I know we like don’t really have a lot of, you know, new southern charm stuff to talk about. But I you know, cuz we always record on Thursdays and it comes on and Thursday nights. And so sometimes we’re not, we’re usually not quite caught up. I was watching. And I just feel like, Taylor is just getting an unfair amount of crap. It just feels like if this was a dude on the show, yes. It would not be the same. Well, it isn’t the same because Austin is a dude. And Shep is the counterpart that Olivia is, yeah, whatever. Yeah. I think that I think it was rod and I think he had a really good point, like, Taylor in that speech to Olivia, where she made the comment about her brother. And I think that’s what really has thrown people. But I think Rod was on point when he said Taylor wasn’t it came off like she was saying to Olivia, get over it. But she she was saying to like the larger group, can we drop this? And we have to remember they’re filming a show and she’s watching it become the main storyline and her be the villain, whilst Austin just sits there and like, Shep and him are hanging out doing champagne poppers in Whitney’s room. But on the same token, I don’t think it’s fair to say it isn’t a big deal, because for Olivia is a big deal. I mean, it’s a big betrayal by a friend. And I think it has much less to do with Austin and I do agree that it seems she’s forgiven Austin so easy, which isn’t fair. Yeah, I stand by like, totally shitty thing for them to do for them both to do right. And it just, it just feels like all of the ire is directed at her. It’s like she can almost not say or do anything right now, because she’s got the scarlet letter. So, I mean, I definitely I’m definitely guilty of feeling that way about her. But it’s I just think it’s a huge betrayal. I think it’s beyond uncool. And I think it’s a character flaw. I agree. But people will say, Well, yes. But as far as we’re concerned, we’ve certainly given him he. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Austin has gotten his fair share from us. That’s true. Yeah, I don’t know. I just feels like it’s all unfairly directed at her
versus that both of them. Yeah, that’s that’s true. And I hear that there’s more of that on the reunion, that she gets it really badly. But doesn’t that also lie on the fact that Shep isn’t giving him heat? I guess Olivia isn’t giving him as much heat either, because she was quicker to forgive. But then people have brought up that trauma bonds, that she was just as mad at him. But then when her brother passed, they bonded because he sadly has also lost a sibling. Yeah, yeah. So that didn’t add that another layer. But now, I wonder how this changes dynamics with Taylor, sadly, losing her brother, which is so crazy that these girls lost their brothers within months of each other to the same thing. It’s one I think was shot, but it’s almost like he’s like really trying to not make it a big deal. Because then that would make it feel like he, you know, he’s hurt and that he’s more upset about the Taylor Taylor breakup that he wants to lead on. And I’m sure rightly also very, very frustrating to Taylor, that he’s not matter about it. Benny, do you know what? Yes, for sure. And you know, it’s interesting. I think that he is mad about it. But I also as the season progresses, I really feel like he is tailoring wanted to get him back. She wanted to make him jealous. And he is not at all interested in getting back together. And he has reinforced that many times. And I think that that’s another reason why he’s not making a big deal about it. Because it’s like, yeah, it’s messed up that Austin did this to me, but I don’t want to get her. I don’t want to be back together with her. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change that. I think that’s a piece of it. Like, what? When she sent that text and she said, What did she say something ridiculous, like how’s the dick working or something? And then she’s like, I’ll just stay with Austin like her intention is too.
In other words,
again, I still feel it’s a character flaw because she’s just not taking Olivia into consideration. She just wants to make Shep jealous. And a lot of people feel like the relationship with Austin and Olivia wasn’t super serious. So she shouldn’t be as mad but it’s still a betrayal. And obviously whether the relationship was serious or not. Obviously Olivia was very hung up on him, either. It was more serious than we also. Or she was more hung up on him but still as your friend. You’re supposed to take that into consideration. Definitely. I don’t know. Taylor put herself first in this case for sure. Speaking of messy couples.
So well, we’ve been we’ve been chatting a little bit about this. Mauricio Kyle Uman skis husband has been in Aspen. I mean, now for I think a couple of weeks you’ve been posting pictures. It’s looking like and I will tell you I have been to Aspen there is a big party aspect to Aspen. There’s a lot of people who come to Aspen who are not really great skiers, but come for the partying right. And it looks like Mars ratio is fully partaking in that because there are some will just say Girls Gone Wild ask pictures that we we’ve seen come from the last couple of weeks. Okay. He’s topless in a club, with a NIDA and I think we touched on this last week I forget if it was on the cocktail pot or the main pod. Anita is a very famous Brazilian singer, and they’re mostly naked spring champagne. And he’s posting this to his story. And then we see a couple days later, Kyle returns for Christmas to Aspen from Mexico. And they’re all together and it just feels like have they been separated longer than we realize? I don’t know. I don’t know how you go from announcing your separation. And I know everyone will say she’s with Morgan, she has not confirmed that she’s in a relationship with Morgan. And we haven’t seen her dating anyone else. So, right? The fact that he is confirming I mean, only a bachelor would post pictures like that, right? So you can’t be working on your marriage when you’re naked in a club and Aspen with famous Latina singers and influencers who happen to be friends with Kyle’s nice Paris. So weird. And so somebody reached out and said that they’re not dating, Mauricio and Anita and it’s like, okay, yeah, I’m sure they’re not dating, doesn’t mean they haven’t hooked up. And then Kyle told paparazzi that it was ridiculous. Like, she was like, Oh, how ridic how ridiculous he’s topless with these women? I don’t know. Then yeah, you can hear the because the paparazzi is like, Hey, Are they dating? And she’s like, I think she’s like, No, that’s ridiculous. And then the girl, one of our girls, you couldn’t I couldn’t tell who said it because they were all getting into a car. One of our girls is like, they’re not dating. Like sounds very annoyed. Yes. From the background. I don’t know. Then he was dancing with the stars partner Emma a very Merry Christmas on his Instagram stories. She has a lot
look odd if you asked me because you have a lot of friends in this world, why does she get her own? Right? He’s not doing anything to stop the talking about it, which well, we got some intel on that you not. So yes, yes. You were talking to that? Yes. Okay. So there was this kind of odd comment on a page six posts. So I want to read this. So this did not come in to us. This was a comment from somebody on a page six post, it said, Do you all know that Joseph link, Morgan Wade’s ex boyfriend or still low key boyfriend works for the agency? I’m beginning to believe the LA Times article that this is all a deflection in regards to Mauricio settling for yes for lawsuits. In regards the Malibu property he cheated in? Yes, the same property that Kyle hosted a party at last season. Now. Okay. They say she cheated to buy me.
Yeah, I know. He cheated with somebody. Right. Right. Okay. Could I guess me not to i because now that I’m reading that again, I’m like, Oh, does it mean it that way? So quick, because we’ve talked about this whole Malibu thing, but just wanted to give you guys kind of a quick recap. So a very wealthy person from Equatorial Guinea owned a mansion in Malibu. The US government came after him for money laundering and forfeited his assets. Among which this Malibu mansion was one, Mario or Maria was brought on to sell it, Mauricio, and his partner ended up buying it. So they worked as both the selling agent as a buying agent, which is interesting, because there’s some rules around that when you work as both right and right, they fixed it up, and they sold it for 70 million, which was more than twice what they bought it for. The accusation was that Mauricio didn’t act in the best interest of the deal because there was another higher offer than what Mauricio and his partner wanted to pay for the house. And that resale and his partner were used to didn’t as the selling agent, do his duty, which is to get the highest price.
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So yeah, and so some of the suits like one of the guy who made the offer, the higher offer, I think suitum There were a possible criminal like a criminal suit and all of this. So this was not just money at stake in this case, but I believe all the suits have now either been dropped or settled. And the one with a guy sued him the guy that had the hot higher quote unquote higher offer because we don’t know any of us to be true or not. He settled with Mauricio getting Mauricio to agree to make a large donation to a
Jewish charity. So I mean, yeah. So yeah, the fact that there was there were possible criminal implications. And this was a big deal. And so all over tic tac you see that the accusations are that you put some wild stories out in the tabloids, and people’s attention is going to go to that. And not the lawsuits make sense. Now, I don’t know if that means on top of it, they’re all They’re also separated, right? Like, it’s hard to imagine that. In other words, I think people are getting confused with semantics. Because I think two things can be true. They’re separated. Perhaps they’re not separated because of cheating, perhaps Perhaps they’re separated because of all these financial strengths and everything like that. But whatever this case is, they are separated, but also posting about Dancing with the Stars going on Dancing with the Stars to begin with her around town, with Morgan with Brazilian singers in Aspen, all of this as a distraction from these cases. And they also happen to be separated. But here’s So here’s what’s interesting. When I posted this page six comment, a follower sent me a message and said, Hey, I messaged you this summer, saying that I was really confused about the Morgan Kyle, quote unquote, friendship. Because this followers best friend met Morgan and she introduced this guy who works for the agency as her boyfriend in July. I really don’t know what’s going on. Well, okay, so I’m gonna put my tinfoil hat on, and just throw out some conspiracy. Big conspiracy theories here. Right. We had talked a long time ago. I mean, like, probably end of summer. So after the they announced they were separated about I had a theory of maybe they like have definitely been separated, but they can’t get divorce because they don’t want Kyle, because married people can’t testify against each other. Right? They can’t make them. And there’s a we were like, what if they’ve made some kind of deal that like they have to get through all this stuff before they can get divorced? And then, you know, there’s also been this theory that like there is for him to be able to get liquid enough to pay Kyle out, it would be almost impossible, because if they are they Kyle Emery CO, according to marital law with unless there was some sort of pre or post snap signed, would be 5050 in terms of all of the agency all of his ownership. So we don’t know how much of the agency he owns what percentage it’s probably not 100, but it’s probably more than 50. So a significant ownership, then she would become a half owner or he would have to pay her out. Well, the fact remains that despite their separation, despite the Morgan of it all, despite the Aspen, champagne showers, despite the Dancing with the Stars partner, they remain a united front, they celebrated Christmas together. They’re pictured with their daughters together, which leads us all to believe that yes, they may be separated, but they’re also working together. There’s still a united front in that regard, which causes us all to think it’s a cover up. There’s more to it, because I guess our rational mind is like, Well, why would Kyle sit down and break bread at Christmas dinner? After seeing that in Aspen? Unless it’s all part of a greater plan of distraction? Or maybe we’re just thinking to intuit maybe she got to ask when she yelled at him, like, I know we’re separated, but you’re making me look like an ass. Yeah. And he’s like, I’m sorry, I had way too much to drink. That was really stupid of me. And then they just sat down for Christmas dinner because they’re doing it in the best interest of their family as a whole. I think it’s probably more than that. Right? The chips like, you know, but I’m sure it because he she’s been doing some stuff too. Right. Having and that’s what a lot of followers said like a lot of them said, Well, she can do a love interest. She can play a love interest in her rumored girlfriends music video. Like, what’s the difference? So there’s that have her sitting in her lap on a private jet and be chatting literally all over the world. To somebody else sent me a picture of him. I guess when he was topless. You could see his tattoo. And I forget if I said it on here, but a lot of our followers messaged us when I said oh, it’s a control issue with the tattoos and they were angry and they said, Don’t you know that in the Jewish religion, it’s frowned upon to have tattoos and in some cemeteries, they still don’t allow you to be buried if Jewish people with tattoos. Yes, I know all of that. But the piece of it is that he also has a tattoo. Right? So that’s what I’m really I would understand. Yes. So I completely can appreciate that as a part of his faith. He’s against the tattoos but since he himself has at least one tattoo. That’s why it didn’t make sense to us. Yeah, I don’t know. I think like you keep saying there’s like more than one thing can be true. I think they’re very clearly not in a good place with each other right? How
Ever they have had a lot of love, and they want to be there for the kids and there could possibly be some other reasons for them staying this united front. I think she probably is like, why would you make me like, you know, don’t be holding hands with your dad’s partner. Don’t be topless and Aspen. I mean, it’s freakin Aspen. It’s cold like that. I always look at that. I’m like, Who? Where are their bikini under their ski suit? Like, apparently that’s what the like celebrities do. I wear very warm socks and yes, and warm ski clothing under my warm ski stuff. I don’t get full makeup done. Anyway, speaking of stars in Aspen, we also saw our Bethany. Oh yes, I didn’t know she bumped into Kyle’s daughter’s and took a picture. And then she bumped into Kyle and took a picture. And then she made a post which was really like a lot of accounts, reposted it just like what? And she said that, you know, she feels calmer lately. And she sees it in her parenting and in her snowboarding.
So, okay, I mean, if that means we don’t hear from her as much, which I feel like we have it, then I think it’s really great that all is calm and all is bright for Bethany. And a lot of people are asking where her fiance pole is, I don’t know, she doesn’t always picture him. And I did a picture and she said, yeah, she said this was a mommy mommy daughter, like they do a mommy daughter trip and the mommy daddy
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So, yeah, I mean, a lot of you are also asking, I’m just tying things in here. A lot of people were also asking why Paige and Craig weren’t together? I don’t know. They’re not engaged. Maybe they did something before and or after, like with their families. Also, people don’t always post in real time. And who knows? I think people are like, Oh, it’s something bad. I actually think maybe we’ll get like a New Year’s engagement. I’m totally pulling that out of thin air. I have absolutely zero Intel. But I don’t think it’s that they’re not in a good place that they didn’t spend Christmas together. Because I think if that was the case, they probably just wouldn’t post and make it obvious they were together.
You know what? They weren’t together? Like they would kind of you know what I’m saying? I’m asking when people are asking because in the past, they have always been at pages families together. And Paige always shows pictures of her mom’s tablescapes. And what she was still doing. Yeah, but just wasn’t there. He doesn’t mean he didn’t drive up the next day. We don’t know. Yeah, well, he you guys also remember, like, he’s got his own family too. And, you know, like, that is one of the hardest things I think about when you know people get married is learning how to split the holidays and figuring all that stuff out. So, you know, some people’s families, we all have to do it. So yeah, I think that people feel like, well, if you’re serious, then that would already be figured out. But maybe they see it as okay, this is our last Christmas that we could just each be with our families and not have to split. Right. You know, who knows when I mean, I’m hoping that we get a engagement on New Year’s Eve. I just put that out into the universe. That would be amazing. Okay, so I feel like you know, speaking of rings, yeah, well, we keep talking about being punked by Mauricio and Kyle, I feel like what are we being punked yet again, because Alexis Bellino from the OSI apparently got a promise ring from John Jansen. And she posted it and she’s calling him Johnny J. Which is just vomit inducing. The whole thing is bizarre. Yeah, it’s they’ve only been dating a couple of a few weeks now and Halloween when we saw that quiet woman picture. Now remember, we speculated that perhaps that was TMZ had an article that the night Shannon got the DUI she was seeing pitching in the quiet woman about Alexis Bellino. So I do think that they were acquainted or introduced sooner than that picture that we posted, but I don’t think they were like
thing because remember after her DUI, she was still hanging out with him. And then it wasn’t until around Bravo con where she announced she hadn’t spoke to him for 30 days. So I think probably he and Alexis got acquainted around September and kind of picked up steam once they got the attention of everyone posting the picture of them together and everything. So there was some online some Instagram chatter from people about the rings because I guess there’s like two rings. One is a $70,000. Van Cleef and Arpels ring, and the other one is a $12,000 ring. And there seems to be some cute confusion about what she paid as an influencer to post the more expensive ring. And was the $12,000 ring the one that yes, I gave her. I have no idea because I don’t know which is which can’t really
tell from looking. But regardless, even if they’ve only been dating for a couple months, even a $12,000 ring is a significant gift. Especially because I always got the impression from Shannon that John wasn’t like super wealthy, I don’t mean that he doesn’t have a pot to piss in. You know, he’s a man of a certain age. I’m sure he has investments and some money to his name, but I don’t think he’s like a multimillionaire rolling in it kind of thing. Certainly, it’ll be so that Shannon had more assets. And you know, he lives on the water in Newport Beach. So that is that is like a yes, he might rent but that is a significant.
Like $8,000 a month. Oh, no, no, no, like $25,000 a month. Yeah. Which I’m a person who will always wonder why you wouldn’t own something inland. But you know what, maybe he sold a home when he got divorced and he just wanted to rent and whatever. We don’t know he could have an apartment somewhere that he rents out so as to offset like, in other words, he could whatever. Yeah, but we then we got another message yesterday that said the scorned housewife says In a recent interview, she’s sober. I know that to be 100%. False. She was drinking at her tres amigas show in Arizona. The first night she had someone ordered the drinks for her. second night, she ordered herself. I’m surprised she’s outright lying about being sober now, because she was bold enough to still be drinking in public as recently as last month. Ooh, I don’t even know why. I don’t think she has to say she’s sober. I think there again, there are words you can choose, which I heard her doing a Bravo con, which was like, I’m getting rid of toxic influences in my life, and I’m bettering my health, right. Which doesn’t mean you never have a glass of wine. Yeah, yeah. I just think until she, you know, maybe or maybe she just really, I don’t know, I think she has some accountability issues, like we’ve discussed. And, you know, the very or maybe when she did that interview that week, she decided not to drink. Right, like, I don’t know. Yeah, it just seems to me like, I don’t know, if you get a DUI, it might not mean your alcoholic it meet but it definitely means you’ve got some some problem drinking, like, just
take like 90 days off and just live a sober lifestyle for a while just while you get your shit together. Like, I don’t know, I’m just it’s very disappointing to hear that. I mean, it’s just the public, not that you should do anything for public. But when you are a public person, you do take heat for it the same way we’re talking about it. And now you’re going back on a show where your cast mates are going to throw in your face that you’ve been drinking. If you think Tamra isn’t gonna mention it, you’re wrong, like, in other words, you’re gonna be exposed. So either don’t say you’re sober, or actually be sober. Total left turn. So random. Somebody sent me an article and I don’t think we’ve ever mentioned this, although I remember hearing it. Do you remember this? Eminem has a protective order against Giselle Bryan and Robin Dixon? Yeah, because over their trademark of their podcast reasonably shady Marshall Mathers, who is we know him is Eminem has actively oppose their efforts to trademark the podcast name, citing concerns over its similarity to his own shady brand. The ongoing legal battle presents a significant clash between the realms of music and reality television, as both parties stand firm in their positions regarding the trademark issue, talk about all roads leading to Bravo. So I looked into this just briefly yesterday. And the theory is which makes sense the theory is is that he has done
In this protective order so that he doesn’t have to actually like come to court, which I don’t understand a lot of stuff is done. Yes. Something anyway. So that part I don’t really quite understand. But maybe it’s so that he doesn’t have even reads to me like, he’s so powerful, right? It reads to me like he’s so powerful that he just wants to shut it down and just have them change the name, probably because financially it’s nothing on him for attorneys to Bill him. Yeah. So like, it’s not even it kind of like, I don’t know, I was a little annoyed by it, because it kind of read that he was too good to even attend a trial on it. So is it really that important to him?
I happen to know a little bit of an honestly, just from being in marketing and being housewives. Right. That’s the thing is like, it’s it. So with trademarks, right? It has to be so you, you can’t own a name in all categories, and needs to be categories that you actually are in, right. So I don’t know, if podcasting. Like if, if there’s like, it’s just like internet, I don’t know exactly right about the categories. But like, if Eminem doesn’t have, let’s say, a jewelry line, and then they’d have said, we’re gonna have a reasonably shady jewelry line, he wouldn’t be able to necessarily protect it in that category. But then there’s also the like, Does this feel like it is a different idea? Or does it feel the same, right, and to me reasonably shady and slim, shady, so not the same. So, you know, part of having a trademark is once you do trademark it, if you don’t invest in protecting it, then there’s really no point. And so when there is somebody else filing for a trademark, that could be similar, you get notified. So that’s probably how all this started. I just feel like it seemed right. A little extreme. I don’t think anybody’s going to get confused with Slim Shady and reasonably shady. Absolutely not. Okay, I thought if maybe since we’re at year’s end, we could talk about some of the most popular posts from this year, both from cocktail party and from regular Bravo and cocktails.com. But as measured by amount of reader comments, and maybe share some of the comments.
What do you think? Oh, I liked that. I liked that. I think that’s a great idea. Okay, so this one is actually a cocktail party post. And it’s titled Wait, what other affair happened? And parentheses VPR from VPR? Email realty@vpr.com. Subject cheater T. You want to break something to oneness? What if I told you the boss’s son in law cheated with a server many moons ago. I forget if he was engaged, married or dating the daughter. But isn’t it odd that they all act nuts? And she only hates this one girl never should be rehired. Remember when he was a server it sir, connects the dots. They may think it’s very, but it’s not. You’re welcome. I remember. So got this. Yeah. I mean, so I mean, we can let’s read without saying names. Some of the comments. So somebody guesses one of the servers and it says Wow, it really never did make sense why so and so hated her so much when they are all fuck ups.
And then it says, during an old reunion, Sandoval said that person had an affair with another sur employee. She said it was only an emotional affair. This one might be true. The beautiful thing about all of these when we get them is that you guys are experts. And so you remember things from and like all of us together. And again, this is why teamwork makes the dream work because it’s like puzzle pieces. Like I wouldn’t have remembered that. I know. So yeah, this last comment is exactly what I was seeking. What I read this because of like, how these people have this, like how our cocktail is have this level of memory. It said I thought it was weird for so and so to be suspended for a fight in another bar to people’s birthday party when they left with the guy telling her we’re better than this. Yeah, so anyway, interesting. I thought that one was very interesting. And I think the only thing wrong about that is that isn’t buried because it clearly is buried. Nobody’s bringing it up. Yeah, people are scared. Yeah, definitely. Okay. Should we do the next one? Do you want to read that one? Sure. This West Coast housewife has no issue, turning a blind eye to the many infidelities over the years. The straw that broke the camel’s back was the discovery of the secret love child. And then in parentheses, who certainly not a baby any longer to make
matters worse, even some estranged family members were aware and assumed she had to know when she actually didn’t. The divide in the family is stronger than ever. There will never be a divorce though there was no prenup, the community property is so intertwined in multinational business, that the only way it could be untangled would be to sell the company or take it public. She’s getting whatever she wants, and then dollar signs to stay married, expect to see more PJs and travel a Malibu compound in parentheses, so they don’t have to be under the same roof. She has also agreed to not go public to protect both her children and their livelihoods. This cause a lot of comments. Yes.
Okay. Did you catch her telling her not him not to kiss her like that? And the most recent episode, she was ticked that he kissed her on the mouth with a camera there. And then another one it says, oh, because there was some some question around the use use of both. Because the last statement says in the in the email says she has also agreed not to go public to protect both her children and their livelihoods. I think it means both is not saying both of her like it doesn’t mean two children. It means both the children and the livelihoods. Right. Yeah, that’s how I read it too. Yeah. So I don’t know where there’s smoke, there’s fire feels pretty interesting. I would really be very interested to see if there will be a Malibu compound.
That’s what I whenever I repost that, which I do, because people ask for it. I always wonder if there’s a Malibu compound, then we’re gonna know. Yeah. Do you think that fully off topic? Do you think Mauricio and Kyle, do you think they’re billionaires? I don’t know. Like, I wonder if they’ve officially reached that status. I don’t know how any of that works. Because just curious. It’s just assets right? Not necessarily what’s liquid? Right? They might be Yeah, yeah, they might be.
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All right. The next one subject, it gets worse this summer. Email says he has been seeing someone else since June. Comments. WTF. If this is true, why let her go with go through with a bridal shower and kicking off those type of festivities? I can’t imagine. Well, I think this was about coral. And I don’t think it was true. Yeah. Because nothing ever came out. Yeah, unless we see something. I don’t think I think Lindsey would have already out of this, if she knew of it.
You know, it’s you and I have had this conversation. I just felt like there was a piece missing from the puzzle that would be revealed to us eventually. And I now I’m starting to, maybe there wasn’t, and they really just weren’t getting along to the point and she just didn’t see it. I think that we’re gonna see on the season that there was just a lot of fighting. And ultimately, they will, he realized that they weren’t a good match. I think he got swept up in the initial like, wanting to be in a relationship, wanting to have that stability, because stability is something he’s been craving. And he’s very open about craving. And I think that initially when she gave up drinking, and they were kind of doing a sober thing together and working out and all of that it was working. And I think unfortunately, he can’t be with somebody who parties, which isn’t the same as somebody who goes to dinner and orders a glass of wine, right? Yeah. Lindsey, very clearly parties. And I do think it’s different, like he can be in a house with people partying, but he needs his significant other to kind of be on a more stable footing. And let’s face it, we see Lindsey when she’s drinking, she’s wild. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But obviously, it’s very hard to be with somebody like that. If you’re sober and sober because of an addiction problem. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, sober, sober people with the exception of Lala who seems to be able
to just stay out in party, I don’t know if she doesn’t she knows that’s kind of our job on the show. But like you said, there’s a big difference between partying and like having a glass of wine at dinner. And as we’re talking about the coral and Lindsay, I have another like theory that I kind of came up with. I think that one call got together with Lindsay. He very much relied on her guidance and believed her when she said, You can do better than Loverboy. You can make more money, we can have brand deals, all of this stuff. And then I think when they started fighting really bad and money became an issue. He was like, Why the hell did I give up my steady job? And I think when Kyle offered him a position back, which we now know he took, right, because they just launched the alcohol free Loverboy brand products. I think that it was a huge part where Carl was like, Okay, I don’t have to marry her there is a way out of this. I don’t have to be attached to her as a brand. I can go back with Loverboy I can spin this in my favor. I really do think that that way. And I think I don’t believe it was Kyle’s intention to split them up. I think it was Kyle’s intention to give coral stability back. And I think Lindsey is probably viewing it as Kyle going about splitting them up. But ultimately, it was Carla’s choice, he could have taken the job back and not called off the wedding. I would argue that maybe Kyle was being a really good friend just by giving Carl a hand up, you know, and yeah, hey, you can come back. You know, if Lindsey were a supportive spouse, why would she care? Now going back to work for him or not? Right. And I wouldn’t be surprised if we see this season. Lindsay say to him, you’re not going back to work for Loverboy. And ultimately, that is a piece of their their split. Yeah. Like what are you crazy, you’re gonna go back and work for him. He underpaid you he this he that. But I do want you to have a full time job and whatever. Because we know that she even said in interviews like he didn’t have that. And I don’t know, I definitely think that the Loverboy it played a huge role in their entire relationship from start to finish. Because at the start, she convinced him he didn’t need it. And he made the choice to leave. And then ultimately, he wanted to go back and I think we’re gonna see her not agree with that decision. Yeah. Because of a weird pride or God, who knows, whatever it is, like, she doesn’t want him working for a friend. I don’t know. Well, I was thinking maybe for just I think we have one other post. But I also just wanted to just end on a note of a big shout out to everyone who listens, you guys have all been so amazing, so supportive. You have shared our show with your friends. And it’s, you know, we’re seeing it you know, we’ve, we’ve made, I don’t know, two or three different top 10 podcast lists for TV or reality TV this year. And it’s because of you guys like this is not a PR play on our part. It’s because of it’s because you guys are telling your friends so thank you guys so much for making cocktails and gossip what it is and for those of you guys who are in cocktail party, you know this community that we’re building like I said, somebody you know, shot me a note on Discord is like hey, here’s your Yorkshire party putting tips like we I feel like we’re all doing like all these live things together not just gossip and you know some of the stuff that we see within discord that you know, people might not agree on a topic, but that at the end of the day, they’re like, happy to be having this conversation. Nobody’s like telling each other off or anything like people are having just good conversations and I just want to give you guys a big heartfelt thank you for everything that this year has brought in terms of just all the positivity and the love and the community and the fun from you guys and from UB. I second all of that we are so appreciative of you guys and we’ve said it since the first episode. I don’t know anything without you guys sending it to me. And I’m kind of the hub and we all put the puzzle together. And I love doing the pod and I certainly love connecting with you guys which is why we love our zoom chat so much. And especially our new discord which I had to be better about being active on I’m so busy on posting on Instagram and not wanting to miss anything this week has obviously been slow
cuz there’s not a ton of content Miami was on last night. And although I didn’t get to watch it yet, I did see that Alexia addresses something we posted about a very long time ago backdooring their comeback season when she was pictured in that fancy apartment and someone shared with us that they rented it. So Alexia points out when she was called out on it that she never said she owned it. And I think Amanda, you put it really well, because you said Yeah, well, she didn’t say but it was implied. Right. It certainly was implied if you’re living in a condo like that. And I can tell you in Miami, a condo like that is millions of dollars, right? Especially now. I mean, real estate is so up in Florida, 20s of millions I bet. Yeah, yeah. So we got a little insight, not from somebody that personally knows them. But I have a follower. And this is why you guys are the best because you all work in different industries. Right. So, you know, things that I couldn’t possibly know. And what she said to me was, she said, I’m writing in to share some insight on the housewife defending her rental status. I’ve been in the industry for 25 years, I’ve been lending mortgages for 25 years. It’s a red flag if you don’t own at least one property owner occupied residential, she’s throwing away
six 600,000 a year to somebody else’s mortgage, somebody else’s equity. I don’t care if it’s commercial, residential land acquisition, you should own one property. How can somebody utilize you to buy property and investments if you don’t actually own your own big red flag? Something smells fishy here. I would like to note that this is all on top not on Alexia. Right? I think he’s, I think that’s why she’s so on guard to be honest with you. She’s questioning it too. Yes. Yeah. I Yeah. It’s interesting that if he does, if that’s true, and he does not own
anything, I also think it is speaking in Miami because I was actually just catching up. I haven’t watched last night yet either. But I was just watching the other one, where she goes on, she’s like, I’ve actually never bought myself a car. You know, Herman bought me one and whatever. And then went down the line of all the men who have bought her a car, but she was also giving Lisa a really hard time about, you know, not doing things on her own. That was really just felt very throwing last night, you know, stones and glass houses kind of from Alexia to me. I don’t know, that bothered me. I think her point was that she’s married to Todd and Lisa is going through a divorce. But I know that she also said like, you shouldn’t, she was like, you need to do this on your own. You need to figure out some time to do this on your own and it’s like, okay, and then you know, she talked about her lawsuit and how she met Todd during that and that Todd was like, don’t keep fighting this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and right, like, I don’t know, I don’t know. It just bothered that it very much bothered me when she was like well and then I’ve also never bought a car I went from this car and you know this man to this man, this man who all bought me my cars like just felt a little rich to me.
Totally agree.
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I don’t think Alexia and I would really see eye to eye and in real life. I think we would have like maybe I think she would be fun but I don’t think she and I would have a lot in common. So many people say that she reminds them of the Cuban Teresa, Judy che Yeah. And and the to like they they’re good buddies. And that makes sense. It does make sense, right? Alexia does have her own business, which is good, but clearly, all the all the women like this high roller lifestyle and to keep up with the Joneses. So I definitely think she was presenting it as if she lived as if she owned the apartment. I can’t imagine she thought he really owned it and he did it because that it would be a huge betrayal. But it would also be like, how do you marry a man and not know what he owns and what he I don’t know. I think
I think
It’s interesting and I think that Miami is especially interesting because we see some housewives with the quote unquote, old school values, which includes Lisa right. You marry a man he takes care of you. And then you have Dr. Nicole, who’s married, well engaged to a very wealthy man and still has her own career. You have Gertie, who is the breadwinner, and her husband is a firefighter, but she has her party planning business and clearly makes the bigger salary. You have Julia, who, from what I can tell is the old school mentality, right? I think she’s she doesn’t have a job outside of housewives. I think Martina has taken care of her all these years. Because she said herself, she hadn’t been modeling for years. So that was her job. Well, I think there’s nothing wrong with the quote unquote, old school mentality at all. I think what is hard is when, you know, some of these women are in that position, and yet they’re telling Lisa, right, you know, like that she shouldn’t be like, that’s what’s you know, that, to me is what feels frustrating and feels very contradictory to me. Absolutely. I agree. And I will say to like, I mean, we are, you and I are both in our 40s. And I mean, people, I’m seeing lots of people get divorced and the people who have Did you know who, you know, the family made the decision that the mother would stay home and the husband would the father would take care of the whole family. I have seen a couple of times, not always, but a couple of times, sometimes it’s like a good divorce and like, they split things fairly. And but in some cases, that’s not the case. And it just, it can really be a tough situation, if the woman doesn’t have another job, or something to fall back on, and is dependent on. Well, those are the cases where you don’t sign the kind of prenup that Lisa signed, do you sign a prenup? If you’re signing one, it’s actually smart to sign one in this case. And in it, you say
I get this X amount per year because I took a step away from my career, right? Because yeah, women who made that choice are stepping away from their own careers, to raise families and to do all of those things. And they need to be provided for after the fact because they do have earnings loss. And if you were a an advertising and you took a 15 year hiatus to raise your family, will obviously your career stalled out? Right. So you need to be compensated for that. Yeah. Because like I said, it was a family decision that the mind would do that. Right. And I don’t know, I’m just telling you what I’m seeing in my real life with with people, it’s, that doesn’t always end up being still feeling like the case when it’s time to get divorced. And that sucks. So on a happy note in the new year, we have a lot to look forward to. We have Vanderpump, which I think somehow is going to be just as exciting. We have, we have to figure out what’s going on in Beverly Hills. I mean,
hopefully we’ll figure that out. We have jersey, we have Roni, I forget now when they said they’re filming, I think they said like March. Okay, I’m pretty sure.
Bermuda we have Salt Lake City. And doing we can finally figure out what Heather freaks out about. Yeah, so I guess that will be what we’re talking about next home and we’ll come back. Potomac will come back. What else is on the? I’m excited for Jersey? Did I say that already? I think it’s gonna be really interesting to see the Gorgos and the Judy Chaze parallel play, because they’re not going to be interacting, but there are at a lot of the same events. And I really just wonder what they do with that show. Because how long can we keep both parties when they’re not interacting? Do we need fresh blood? Was Danielle not the answer, because I don’t think Bravo’s thrilled with her after the whole Jen Aidan thing. Yeah, I guess it all depends on ratings and fan feedback, right? If the fans want and yell if the fans still want the Gorgas and still want the Judy Chase, that’s what we’re gonna get. If we get another season where the views are over a million like they were last season, we’re getting the same cast. It just is that simple. So I guess we’ll have to watch what happens. To echo Amanda, thank you so much for spending this year with us and listening to our pod weekly, and sending us the scoop and sending us encouragement and kind words and thoughts. It means the world to us and we love our community and we love you guys. So I think we’re gonna have a lot more fun in 2024 and till next time, Happy New Year, guys.
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