Trishelle Cannatella from Traitors is here! We could have talked to her all day. She fills us in on her trip to NYC: WWHL and watching/meeting Ariana at Chicago on Broadway. Of course we have all the questions about Traitors – behind the scenes, her real thoughts on the cast, and her game strategy. We discuss five different theories on what’s really happening with Princess Kate, and Trishelle weights in. Porsha and Simon’s divorce keeps getting weirder – we share some exclusive tea.
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What’s up cop tailors and Amanda and our special guests. We are so excited. We have Trish shell from traders. And of course before traders we all knew you to shell from the real world Las Vegas and the real world spin off show the challenge. Yes. Hi. I’m so happy to be here with you all I really
gather I do. Like this is the first time we’re reading. But just so you know, I feel like we kind of grew up together. I love that. And now I feel like I know y’all from cocktails and gossip. And yeah. It’s so weird. I love that you listen to our podcast. And when you tear that time you tagged us. And you said oh one of my favorite podcasts. I was like what? So of course I mean, you guys just have all the T and before everybody else. And so I love to see it. And I love to read it all.
We love we appreciate you. So I know you were just in New York. Obviously we’re starting with traders. But can you tell us about your New York trip because I saw on your Insta? You were doing some exciting things? Yes. So I came to New York to I actually filmed Watch What Happens Live with Andy and it’s going to be airing tonight, which I’m not sure when this was going to air but Thursday. So I filmed that. So I got to see Andy and I did it with Carl Radke. Oh, that was interesting. You guys. I just feel like I’m gonna get so much hate for this. Andy asked me about Carl and Lindsey and the latest episodes right? And honestly, here’s the thing I heard you guys hot takes on this and whatever. I like Lindsey because I like television personalities. I like somebody who was going to say Outlander stuff get activated. Like I think it’s fun to watch. And so I looked at Carl and I was like, sorry, I’m a girl’s girl, but like I’m Team Lindsay and I don’t think it went over well. Oh, good for you for your honesty. No, and I think that’s why you
make such a good reality television personality is because you’re not going to censor your opinion because you’re sitting next to Cara, which we so often see. Yeah, and and what we always say is like, I might find Lindsay or Sheena annoying, but if we didn’t have them there shows would be very boring. Right and I feel the same about Sheena. So I definitely agree with that. But I want to say Shana like a no Yeah, I love Shana more than Sheena. And I’ve have some odd respect for that. I’m like, Wow, if I can only love myself as much as she loves her. Like, that’s amazing. But yeah, Carl had it kind of bad. Like he was getting rapid fire like Lindsey questions, and I felt a little bit bad. So like, I and I feel like he’s not like happy with with that. Not just me, but just the show in general. But I don’t know. I do like Carl. I think he’s great. And that was kind of a difficult episode to watch whenever she was accusing him of, you know, doing extra healer activities. My stance on that is I don’t feel bad for Carl. And the reason I don’t feel bad for Carl is because nobody knew who Lindsay was and is better than he did. And he decided to not only get in a relationship with her but propose to her and Jana reality television show with her. So this wasn’t some guy like maybe her ex boyfriend, who really didn’t know her didn’t have a point of reference and found out while they were dating, he knew he saw her in other relationships. And he willingly went and proposed to her so I don’t feel bad for him. Right I old phenomenon of people trying to fix it’s, you know, you usually hear it’s like girls, the women trying to fix the man in straight relationships. Right. But I think it works the other way. And I think he probably was like, she’ll calm down once we, you know, get all settled down. And it doesn’t seem to be the case. Well, my thing is by our mid 30s, we kind of are who we are. Yeah, and yeah, well, there’s little changing. I mean, people can tweak things, but like your personality is pretty much what it’s going to be. And yes, I agree with you guys. Like he definitely like knew that going in. And I had a problem with the breakup on camera. And I did ask him about it. You guys can see on the show and after show what what he said. And then I gave him a little bit of crap about the ring too. I was like, I think it’s, I can’t believe that you took the ring back. I also am willing to bet that was a lab diamond, but that’s neither here nor there.
Paying was like in the state of New York, that ring is my property. And I was like, No, I don’t like that law. Yeah, I don’t either. And I also personally believe if Lindsay had been the one to call it off, then she should give it back. But since he called it off, I think it should be on her if she wants to give it that is the etiquette. Oh, yes, I’m live. And when you are in New York, we saw that you went to go see Ariana in on Broadway. How was that? Okay, you guys, I got there on Saturday, and I bought tickets for like, third row on Sunday. And I was feeling a little bit sick. And we were supposed to be shooting Watch What Happens Live the following day. So I was like, Okay, I can’t go to the show. Like it’s it’s too much. And so I skipped it. But then I extended my trip by a day so I could see her on Tuesday. That’s how important this was to me. And so I saw it with her friend Bradley, who was like her BFF and Peter from the Peter pals.
He came to the show as well. And so it was us three, we were like third row again. Got to see her shine. You guys I wanted to cry. She’s so talented. She is a star. Like this is not going to be her last Broadway stunt. I’m positive of it. Her singing was amazing. Her comedic timing, which is like so hard to do on stage, her dancing. She was amazing. I mean, I couldn’t believe that. And then I got to Nene. I got to meet her after and she was so kind and sweet. And we got pictures. And it was a highlight of my year even filming trainers, a highlight. Ah, you know, and when you’re when you go to Broadway, and you sit close to the stage, and you can hear the actors taking their bras in between, you know their notes right now. You see what a physical job that is to do. So to be able to do that to hit all your lines to hit all of your nodes. I mean, twice a day some days. Oh, yes. Like she’s, yeah, yeah, that’s what Brad was saying. I was like she must be exhausted. And me to have a show airing to have to film the after shows. She’s still probably doing interviews for the PR and she’s doing this and she’s doing press. But another thing he said that she does five shows from Friday, Saturday and Sunday because she ruined Saturday to one Sunday one Friday. That’s hard and I saw her wait after to go outside take pictures with fans and sign probably for like an hour. That’s tough work. Yes, she must be absolutely exhausted.
stayed, but I guess when you’re booked in busy, it’s just the momentum. And you, you know, go go. Well, she didn’t look tired. She looked beautiful. And so I’m just so proud of her. It’s amazing. I have to get there. Yeah, I can’t believe I haven’t been yet. It’s funny too, because I’m watching DPR at the same time as I’m seeing this and it’s just it’s it’s very, it’s like poetic justice that this guy that was just such a weight, like a rock in her life. And it’s like, we didn’t know all these talents that she had. And then to see it in person. I was just like, by Sandoval, like, I don’t know, it just it made me so happy for her. 100% Okay, so before we get into traders, I feel like there is a bit of an elephant in the room that we need to address. Oh, Trish out. Did you know that B has we could say a little or big crush on CT, as I’m aware.
I believe that he doesn’t everybody. Trisha I know you’re a happily married woman as am I. But you can’t tell me that there was not a point in your life that you found. CT hot. Come on. Okay. Yeah, I think that he’s physically attractive. But it’s like, whenever you start whenever you live with these people, and you do spring break with them, and you’re around them all the time, they really become brotherly figures. And like, especially CTM bananas. I never I mean, we done spring breaks together we’ve done all this stuff together drinking and all that stuff. I’ve never kissed either one of them. They’re there was a very fine like brother sister relationship with me. But I’m totally see that yeah, like, like, you have a huge crush. So Oh, my friends do it to all my I love it. We’re in love with him. And I like That’s so weird, guys. I mean, that just reminded me when you said that, like, so cocktail hours. Like for those of you who might be on the younger side, and TV spring break was you watched it every single day. It was usually like right around now in March, they would go to one location. And there would be performers every night. They had like, I mean, this, I kind of forget because like, when, again, growing up, like I would watch it, what was it like to go on these MTV spring breaks. So much fun. I mean, you know, one day like Snoop Dogg will just get on stage and perform. And then you have like, all these special guest hosts like Jessica Simpson will be there, whatever. And then, you know, the TRL people, which used to be whenever music videos existed, guys, and it was just always a blast. And so we were there hanging out with people with, you know, the whole MTV crowd. It was just fun. It was a fun time. So in our age group are just going like, oh my god, I remember. Yeah, like, I don’t know how I survived that physically. Like, all the weeks of drinking, we would not be able to survive it at this point in our lives. Well, that was it fun. Not that I was ever on MTV, but I certainly did my own spring break. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. And then doing that on camera. I cannot imagine where Okay, so I want to talk traders, which we have just loved watching you. And just that whole I mean, the casting this year. The whole cast has just been fantastic. And eat that how are they not? How are they it? I mean, talk about like, what a weird, but perfect casting decision. John was. Yeah, you know, really amazing. So, so yeah, let’s talk because we so now we’ve we’ve watched the finale and UN CTU won, yay. Oh,
I got to talk about that. But I want to talk about this new theory that I’m certain you saw Sondra posted, saying there was a smoker’s click. Yo, Si, t, k, and m. J, we’re in it. And then Kate responds, and it was like, Okay, first of all, we had production with us, and we were miked. And also we were mostly vaping. But anyway, so Kate’s right, but okay, yeah, by the way, I love Sandra, she’s hysterical. When I saw that I died. I was like, girl, why are you calling me out publicly on the smoking thing? Right? I hide it for a reason. Exactly. I’m like in a corner. And so like literally in a bush, but okay, so she is right about some of that. But mostly like people were vaping and you know, things like that. But, you know, some of us did enjoy some cigarettes while we’re there because there’s a lot of downtime. And it there’s nothing to do and so it’s kind of and then you’re stressed and it’s stressful environment. But and you ever to drink limit. Is that true? Oh girl, maybe it was more like a one drink limit off. And it wasn’t even every night I would say we had like one glass of wine every three days or something. Wow. So I was like when I got home I told my husband I was like I’m basically sober now like i
I’d like six glasses of wine of the past four weeks. So yeah, it was it was funny but the smokers Alliance, caterers, right? We had a one or at at least one, maybe two production people with us at all times. And if anyone tried to talk game, they were like, shut it down right now. Like, we will separate you guys. So you just basically talked about your personal life. So no, there was no smokers Alliance, which you probably wanted to do anyway, because, like, you know what I’m saying like Kate’s talking about her son, you’re talking about your husband like your there has to be time for that anyway, you know, so Exactly. I thought it was funny. And I never watched survivor and I feel like I want to now like I really enjoyed Sandra I really enjoyed the gamers versus just like the reality people like Pete and the housewives like I that was very cool. It is. And you know, what people like Peter was a huge surprise, because who knew that someone from the bachelor with a pretty face ended up being like a strategic mastermind, right? And right, it just shows people different sides. And so I enjoyed that 100 set. Were there ever. So you mentioned there’s always a producer, Were there ever any times where you guys were off cameras were like you guys could just interact. So we had off days. And
like every once in a while, we’d have like one day that we could like, relax, catch up on sleep. But we would have someone with us at all times if we left the hotel room. So sorry, I shouldn’t have said that. But whatever, wherever we were sleeping. And there was also security outside of our doors. But yeah, so we would we would go for walks and people would run just to get some fresh air. But you always had someone with you like a handler. So you could pass someone on like the walkway when you’re walking or running or see someone outside, but they never let you really talk. So there was no time to just talk to someone about game whenever you weren’t like on camera. So you had your own secret service detail at all times? Yes, I suppose hence. I know, it really was but I didn’t feel like as time went, everybody became so invested in the game that people probably really were making sure and if they like, you know what I’m saying? They had to like you had to be careful. Because if Sodre did spot you and CT chatting, she’d be like, Oh, see, they’re up to you know, yeah. Also you wanted Yes. Because you said that as well. Like whenever you’re more invested in the game, you want all the conversations about the game to be on camera so that it explains what your game move is, right.
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and so I would imagine then with handler’s like nobody could be sneaking around the castle at night unnoticed. No nothing I got by the way. Speaking of you guys. And Jay has been reposting these, like conspiracy theories. And the most upsetting thing was that she reposted something about saying that CT and I were having an affair. Why I didn’t see it. Like there was an article in the press Like Us Weekly had had did an article about her reposting this that CT and I were sleeping together and that we had like hatched just plan like from the bedroom that you know, he and I were gonna vote her out or whatever to clear the air. I am married happily. And also I hadn’t seen CT before the show in 14 years. Also, if it was going to happen to what happened 18 years ago when we were on spring break, like we just talked about. And another thing, it’s just sell below the belt like get oh, she can be mad about the game and all this other stuff, whatever. But as a married woman herself to say something like that. Thankfully, my husband has a good sense of humor, and he laughed about it, but it’s not cool. That is really not cool. It’s not a narrative you want out there. And I have to say for me the backlash with you and si t like scheming to oust her doesn’t make any sense. Because if MJ would have wrote C T, he would have been out because you wrote his name. Exactly. And there was no way for you guys to know what she would write in. If you i both wrote MJ, then it would make sense but Right. So how could you have known what she would write? You could I had no clue because you know, some of her boats were like, you couldn’t predict them. Right? And so there’s no way that I would let let someone else have my game in their hands. So there’s no way at that point that it would make sense for me to just be like, Oh, I’m gonna chance it and see, you know, it just doesn’t make sense. I learned on an actress, I could see a you had a doubt about CTE. And you said it, you were like, I can’t if he after all these years of knowing each other if he played me in this game. And like when you guys were the three of you were standing there you were looking at him, like with daggers. And then you physically saw your demeanor change when he was like, I would only want to win with Rochelle. She’s the only person I trust here. You saw how like in your head, you were like, okay, he wasn’t like you saw, you know, and I even had asked the whatever because the producers come and they look at your chalkboard before you show the other people whose view right down and I whispered and I said can I change it? And they said no.
Because I was having so many doubts. I was spiraling at that left with three lists left. I was just like, oh my god, this is what am I doing? I first thought CT that I was just like second guessing myself. However, I told MJ right before we went to the firepit you’re the only person that I 100% know is a faithful and to this day, it’s the truth. I had, like I was like 98% Sure on CT, but I was 100 on MJ. So shouldn’t you require a decision? Right? You should never and you’ll have to wonder too like I love watching the finale and like I bet the torch lighting challenge that that is probably when the doubt came in your head because he didn’t like your torch. Yeah, because in my mind, I’m like well, that and that could mean a trait that he’s a traitor because he
He He’s a traitor and he knows I’m a faithful. Right. And that’s that’s when I think that seated out probably happened. And that right there is a gamer mentality because that’s exactly what I was thinking. I said it Yeah, he didn’t really need to light my torch because he was gonna not murder me that night because he’s a traitor. Right? And then, and then also when Phaedra was voted out as a trader, and you knew that she lit his torch, and you saw their friendship, which I think the we all knew that there wasn’t a real malt romance there. But like, personally, I really wish they would hook up because I just love like, come on, that would be such a chaotic, fun relationship. Yeah, well watch.
I think that that made him suspect to like his relationship with Phaedra. Yeah, that and also, I thought about that as well. Because like, whenever Dan had said her name, and I kind of started to think that she was a traitor after that. I was like, they’re hanging out a lot together. Hmm. And they’re, I don’t know, I was just very confused by that. But also, whenever CT showed me where the shield was, and that cabin challenge, I was like, why wouldn’t he want the shield for himself? Unless he knew that he couldn’t get murdered? So he’s giving it to me? Right there are there were just too many things that that I started questioning at the end. And that’s why I put his name down. I totally get it. So at this point, I after watching the reunion, are there still hard feelings? I mean, obviously, MJ, it seemed the reunion at least that Phaedra seemed a little salty about Dan. Yeah.
She is still she she just thought that was like, really uncalled for possibly going against the rules. The whole thing, which I kind of agree because I did not look at Phaedra I know I said that I had in my notes notes on her from day one. That was all a lie. That was not true. I just wanted to like strengthen my theory, but I really did not think that she was a traitor until Dan outed her. And that kind of sucks. Because I think that Phaedra could have possibly won, honestly, because she was so good. Yeah, you sped up. After investing billions to light up our network. T Mobile is America’s largest 5g network. Plus right now you can switch keep your phone and we’ll pay it off up to $800 See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT and T AT T mobile.com/across. America.
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I don’t like Dan.
A lot of people are really festival that like honestly. Yeah, I don’t know why he was able to do that honestly, in the game, but I mean, I know it’s been done before but he blatantly called her out. Right? So it was kind of obvious that she was a traitor. But as far as people have been bitter at the reunion Yep, MJ was the worst. She was like very upset about the whole thing. And I thought that maybe after I talked to her at the reunion that things will calm down. But no, I’m still blocked on Instagram CT of his well.
Hot Adult. I don’t know. I mean, I don’t think I can get back into MJS good graces, which is okay. It sucks that she’s upset but a B and A she doesn’t have to keep coming for like my personal life, though. Yes, I agree with that. It’s fine to be upset. And I also don’t think it helps her from like future Gaming Show perspective. You know what I mean? Like, because if I’m a casting director is kind of like, no, yeah, it’s not a good luck. It’s yeah. I love it was Srei as add of it, I she seemed to the audience because I saw a meme that said, at what point is she Reagan realize she’s not on an ultimate girls trip? And yeah, hi, mom. Design traders. Oh, my gosh, you guys. Okay. I actually liked her edit because I thought it was quirky and funny, especially the cabin. I think I overwhelmed that scene with her freaking out like eight times. I watched it over and over and I died laughing but I will tell you, she was actually super competitive. She gun for shields the entire time she was there. She’s so physically fit. And I wish that they showed that part of her like in some of these really longer challenges where you had to go like and have endurance. She was great in that she kicked our butts running and the scary
Whoa challenge like big time. And see they didn’t. And that just goes to show you like the I think that the Edit was great from a viewer perspective. Yeah, if I were her I’d be a little annoyed that you didn’t show like how fit I was. Because let’s also face it, I mean, sure raise gorgeous and but yeah, grandma, she’s not a kid. She’s so physically fit you guys. I actually told Andy this at the reunion. And during break, I said, I want to see not just like an ultimate girls trip, but like an actual housewife challenge show where people can show their competition side, because Tara’s also about us and she’s very physically fit. And some of these housewives like, I want to see them competing like that against each other. And Tamra was really sick. Wasn’t she, like, hospitalized when she got home? And even if she did not look like herself? She looked like she wasn’t? Well. Let me tell you something. Tamra is a tough cookie. And she’s a pro, because I would have wanted to go home. She was so sick. She was on antibiotics. She did the whole thing she was she lost her voice completely. So she had to be like, she couldn’t even be on camera. And then she we did that scare code challenge whenever she was still on antibiotics and sick. And she worked her butt off and ran and did all the things. I have so much respect for her. But yeah, I wish that she was she hadn’t gotten sick. She would have stayed a lot longer. Oh, I think so. Yeah, I have to know. So we’re talking nice about everybody. But there has to be some people that you really didn’t like, just rubbed you the wrong way. Like, okay, like rubbed me the wrong way. Kevin did a couple of questionable things like I think so. A lot of people were like kind of annoyed by him canceling them. In real life, too. I got a lot of I got a lot of people messaged me like their experiences with him. Yeah, he’s actually he was were fine in person now. But like during the show, he made some moves that I was like, Why did you do that? Like it just didn’t seem like to fit with the game. I think that he was just kind of like, not caring to be there, which was annoying. But let’s see. Larsa here’s the thing. Larsa she doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies she’s not like the nicest person but I liked her enough and like respected her. Her Marcus was the real deal in the castle. They off camera, super lovey dovey with each other. They that’s the real real thing. Right? I honestly think that they’re probably going to end up getting married. So I do like that side of her seeing if he can stop cheating. Allegedly. I know. I read that on your on your Bible or cocktails. I don’t know. That’s so hard for me to believe. I know. Like if enough people say it. It could be true. But it just seems so hard for me to believe because he was so into her. Yeah, he seems that way on Miami too. Yeah. Very, very end to her just like she hangs the moon. But you know what, there’s some side to her that actually is very soft. When it comes to her family. I think she’s a fantastic mom. The way that the conversations that we had. She’s just like, hard. She’s like, it’s hard to break into that. So yeah. How nowadays year old girl? Yeah, maybe that’s it? How did they seem at the reunion? Because that was post breakup and then post makeup. It wasn’t as all over each other lovey dovey as I’d seen before. So I truly believe that something had happened. But she did like she said on the reunion that they’re working through things so I believe it like people that are saying that it’s just for press this whole thing. I don’t believe that at all. Because I saw a shift a change like a shift. I think that they’re they truly love each other and that they’re trying to work through something that happened. Okay, yeah. Yeah. And then who did you immediately bond with? To know I immediately bonded with also Phaedrus very warm and fun to get to know and she just has a very like motherly figure in the house. So like everyone really loved her and is drawn to her. She just has something about her even though she is such a queen. And she’s just like this huge personality. There’s something very warm about Phaedra. So like, I feel like I could just like cuddle up to her and tell her like fakers or something. I don’t know. She was easy to get to know. Actually all the housewives. It’s it’s weird. Well, maybe except for Larsa. But um, they were all so kind, but very much had spice to them like they do on their shows. They were they were the they were very similar to their personality on the shows.
I love that rule. Speaking of housewives, so we keep getting intel that something is being filmed in Nola. I don’t know if it’s housewives style or southern charm style. I think it’s more housewives. And you know, everybody asked me is true shall gonna be on this. Okay, so I know that there was buzz and they were talking about it and people were interviewed. I did an interview as well. But I think that housewives would be great here. I think New Orleans is a fun place to film. They would they would not have a shortage of things to do because in my everyday life, like I’m doing stuff
The time the producers wouldn’t even have to set anything up. It’s just there. There’s a lot of drama going on with a lot of girls that I know. And so that would be interesting. I do think that some of the names that they that were getting interviewed a lot that people were saying that were for sure gonna be cast are not as good as I would expect. I think that someone who should be on the show is my friend Tamika Lee, I absolutely adore her. I think she’d be fantastic. Yeah, there’s just some other ones that I think are too like a little bit, try hard and like, blowing themselves up a little bit more than they deserve to be like, I don’t know. But then that’s good TV too, because if I’m on the show with this particular person, or some of these people, I would love to call them out for all their bullshit. Right? Right. So sometimes it’s good to have a trihard in the mix. Yeah, absolutely. So as far as filming goes, I haven’t seen any cameras and I hang out with a lot of these girls that are potentially on the show. I mean, I’m going to be at the same table at a charity event on Friday with Tamika so her name was brought up a lot. She could carry a show on her own in my opinion. I think she’s fabulous. I love her. She has an amazing incredible family. Yeah, I would die to do a show it to mica because we are actually friends beside like everything else. And so we hang out in New Orleans and it will be fun. That’s what we need real friends. Yeah, I just got back. I did a trip to New Orleans couple weeks ago and I swear to God, a third of my body came back as butter.
And he ate so well and had so much fun. And I mean just got to do like some of the really classic most beautiful restaurants like gala swas Yeah, palace. Yeah, we did the really fun kind of brunch where people get after it. Oh, send gala dinner Friday, Friday lunch? Yes, it was so fun. Oh, okay. So that Friday lunch a gala twice is the place to see and be seen. It is amazing people literally you’re in these. There’s a dress code. So it’s like very southern Fancy a chic, but people will get up in their dress and stand on a chair when the band comes in and starts to play and weigh their napkins around and get wild like it is fun. So fun. It was fun. I think New Orleans itself as a character on this possible show. I couldn’t agree more there is it’s just such a unique and beautiful and interesting city so I would love to see it. Yeah, I can’t wait I really really hope that they do something here it’ll be awesome even if I’m not a part of it. I want to watch it definitely so I know you watch Real Housewives of Atlanta Are you excited for Porsche to come back? Yes. Oh my god there’s so much going on with her you guys I can’t when I when you guys are posting about Simon I’m like wow. Like do we think she knew this stuff? So we just got scope? I think literally yesterday that Simon her I guess now x was cheating on her in Dubai because remember we a couple weeks ago we’re like I don’t understand it she was just she just posted this you know these videos of her galavanting around on this like jetski thing with Simon they seemed all loved up so I guess the the tea allegedly is that Simon was cheating on her in Dubai and I guess it’s apparently a thing specifically pretty Atlanta women go to Dubai and become sugar baby so I’ve heard this before it makes sense but why would somebody who lives in Atlanta sorry man go all the way to you know like I understand there’s a lot of rich men in Dubai who want Sugar Babies right but what Simon who lives in Atlanta go all the way to Dubai to have a sugar baby and that is odd maybe he thought that it wouldn’t get back to her I’m not exactly sure. And she popped up for their anniversary I don’t know oh my god like I need to see this like get an data camera right now like I hope it’s all gonna play out. Wow that is interesting. But I will also say this whole sugar baby thing. I’m kind of like jealous that I missed the boat on this like when I was young and hot lived in LA in my 20s all these girls like when I did Lunger Abel and the stuff they were driving like Mercedes and Range Rovers and being like all like nice cars and I was rolling up in my Volkswagen Jetta. Nobody asked me to be a stripper. I had a Jetta too. I had a white box wagon Jetta. I had a silver one very reliable car by the way. Yeah. But yeah, no one ever approached me like that. Why I must have given like a resting bitchface or something like that.
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That the Dubai thing I’ve heard this a lot young girls the whole thing and that they go there and make all this money. And yeah, allegedly Zozi X daughter did it prior to her engagement. Yeah, I mean, make your coin I hate.
I didn’t hate either. So backing this in this timing, right? Because you asked if she knew. I mean, we we think that she knew, and that that’s why she went to Dubai. But then because literally the week after was when she when she filed and then within the same day as maybe a day before is when all of the documents and all of the things about Simon and his Pat has a history of crime and the fact that he lied on his immigration stuff. That all kind of happened within the same couple of days. So that’s where I was like, okay, because he also tweeted that week saying, I will stop loving my wife until the you know, I won’t stop loving her until the day we get divorced. And then yesterday he tweets. Full Circle total swing the other way. If you are behind for sure Portia filing, step up and own her mental state of mind. Hashtag dumbass. Oh, God, what does that even mean? You found out? I mean? Well, now the word is that she’s the one who dropped all those documents, because let’s face it, these filings and stuff. And these felonies go back as early as the late 80s, early 90s. So it is kind of funny that we’re all hearing about it. Right, as she’s filing for divorce and allegedly catching him cheating in Dubai. Yeah, I mean, true. But like, I mean, I feel like his reign of terror on the United States is like pretty long. So like, it could have been anyone rice born woman, or I mean, I don’t know, there’s rumblings about what he had a second family or something. All these other things, fake marriages. So it sounds like he made a lot of people angry. So it could be anyone. But if it was her, and he was cheating on her, like, go ahead. I might do that. If my husband ever cheats on me, right? Never understand about men like this. Why get married? Yeah. What hasn’t worked out for you the first couple of times. And clearly you don’t mind paying the sugar baby. So why not just have some arrangements like that and just keep things casual? It’s like It’s like narcissistic behavior where you want like the housewife at home, but you want to have the power to have these things on the side as well. Yeah. Yeah. It’s really disgusting, though. I had if so I was just as a Porsche did do this. It is like, the modern day or a new version of throwing all of Simon’s clothes out on the front lawn and lighting them on fire. Yeah.
Which I love. I love to see a scorned housewife. I mean, I feel like they are at their best after something like this happen. So Oh, yes. I’m interested to see how she pivots this during during the next season, but I just want to ask you guys, so you don’t think Phaedrus coming back? Huh? Well, I haven’t heard that she’s coming back. If you ask me. I think that okay, I think a couple things. First, I think that even though Candy’s not going to be on it. Yeah, the network loves candy and they clearly still plan on having a relationship with her. So although features back in the mix, putting her back on Atlanta, the season after candy
He’s gone, may sort of be looked at as a slap in Candy’s face. I see what you mean there. I also think that Atlanta hasn’t had great last couple seasons, and I don’t think the budget is where they can afford Phaedra and Porsha. And Kenya. Yeah, I just feel like after seeing Phaedra shine on the traders and getting to know her, like, personally, I want to see her on everything. Like I’m rooting for pager. I want to see her on television at all times. And I feel like the married to medicine wasn’t like, she needs like a bigger platform like she needs like to do something else. I agree. I would love her back on Atlanta. I Yeah. I don’t know why they’re not. We know scannable. It’s a year old. But the most current season. What are your thoughts? As we’re watching and I know you were traveling this week. I don’t know if you saw the most recent episode, where Sheena is basically making it all about her and the Lola, her friendship. And then Lala is going to Ariana on behalf of Sheena and sort of being like, you can’t dictate who she’s friends with. Lala who is the person who dictated
who was friends with her acts. Yeah. Do you think it’s just they see it like, you know what, we’ve been there for Ariana, but she’s moved on. She’s making tons of money. And it’s jealousy and they’re trying to keep the show interesting. Where’s your head at with all of this? So I sort of see everyone’s individual sides except for well, Shana, she’s just this is who she is. Shane is going to Shana. Like she’s going to be like everything to turn everything back to herself. Whatever she was like, Yeah, I think that sandals more upset about losing me as a friend than his relationship with like, a decade. I was like, girl.
What? It was just so funny, but that’s kind of what I expected want from her. So I get it. I think LA LA genuinely cares about Ariana I think that she comes from a place where to her. She was called the other woman all this other stuff where she actually at one point was the other woman. She really didn’t know about it. But she felt bamboozled. But then she almost married this guy and had a kid with him. So in her mind, she’s like, look, I have to have this person in my life wherever and I’m trying to make it work and I have but she feels maybe like Ariana it was they don’t have children. It wasn’t a dating situation. Or it wasn’t like a situation where she has to happen in his life in her life anymore. But to me, I think that they just need to rally around Ariana I think there is some jealousy going on. But especially obviously with Shana the Dancing with the Stars comment was ridiculous. Be happy for your friends. She went through a lot. It’s not Ariana fault how the public reacted. Right, right. Like everyone rallied against her. Or I’m sorry, I can’t stand for her. And so that’s not her fault. Who would turn down these opportunities and money? No way. And Lala and Sheena both made a ton of money off of merch and podcasts and everything with scandal themselves. So it’s not you know, the only one who didn’t capitalize in that way was Katy. Right? Yeah. I Jack Yeah. And Britney, I’m sorry, Jackson. Britney split. Okay, so this is funny. I am friends with Johnny theraplay who did House of Villains with Jack and so i Yes, so I talked to Johnny every once in a while. I’ve known him for like 20 years. So he has been doing appearances with Jack he told me and I am not a Jack’s fan. Y’all know that I always just I’m always like on the girls side of things. The Bravo guys are terrible.
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so anyway, Donnie told me and he swears Bible that Jack had the opportunity to cheat every time that they did an appearance together with Johnny and that he never did he would always go home and like hang out with Johnny after and that he didn’t cheat. So I don’t know. I mean, we know that he’s cheated on the past obviously. But that’s good to know. I do believe he’s had the opportunity because you know, these there are women out there. Yeah, I mean, I people say you know, followers are out appearances and they say like not just Jax. But Sandoval like at the height of scandal like girls were still throwing themselves at this to be at least Jax is good looking like to me Tom sandals not but you do legitimately think they’re split. You don’t think this is a play and Lala and that Lala Excuse me. Ariana was on watch what happens this week? And she said they’re legitimately split like this is not for publicity. Yeah, I believe it. I think that she, I think what happened is that he lost a little bit of his like, you know, he lost his show. And he was kind of like being the at home dad kind of thing. And he was in that position. And then he got on House of Villains, and now he’s popular again. And so he’s partying a lot more. And she’s just like, Wait, like, No, we have, you know, a child and why are you not at home? And I think she just got tired of it. She’s making a power move. Yeah, I mean, Lala and Katie. Both sad. There’s a lot of rumors about him cheating on this last episode, even. Yeah, so. I mean, it’s hard to say I think I mean, by the way, exclusive tea from her shell. So thank you about for that. I don’t know. I think we’ll see. And I think I’d say go Brittany. She’ll do. I think she’ll do the right thing. Yeah, family. And do I believe that he he screwed up. Maybe it was cheating. Or maybe he was just like staying out too late partying every night. And she didn’t want that because she’s in a different place in her life. But I my friend does not have a reason to lie to me. In fact, he loves to spill the tea. He would have definitely been like, oh, yeah, I saw Jack’s looking. He would have loved to have that gossip. sesh. But no, I mean, I don’t know. All right. That’s what I heard. So are you following the stuff that’s going on with Princess Kate? Yeah. And one of my favorite memes that I just thought is like these people would be the ones to find out who were what happened to Princess Kate and it was a Peter pals
love that. I got to repost that said oh, I got that too funny. Yeah, what’s going on? So on our cocktail party discord, we started a new chat channel and we laid out five now five different theories. Okay, so theory, let’s see her I gotta pull it up. So theory one is like what they’re saying happened is really you know that she is actually sick and recuperating and not ready to face the cameras. Theory two is that she was sick, but use the time to also get cosmetic work. So she’s not ready to face the cameras. Three is that she was sick, and that her post op procedure didn’t go well and that she was or is in a medically induced coma. So that is coming from a reporter in Spain, who has been saying this who has doubled down and has been saying this for, you know, six weeks.
Let’s see four theory is Kate found out about William having an affair and is refusing to be seen publicly or cooperate with the palace whatsoever. And then the fifth theory, which is something that we just actually posted in cocktail party, is that Kate is in a mental institution because rose Hanbury, the person that William is allegedly having an affair with
rose got pregnant with William’s baby.
Okay, and is refusing to have an abortion. So if she shows up pregnant, I think we’re going to know which theory it is. Yeah. Okay, so let’s go number three, I hope and pray that it is not number three. That sounds so sad if she was like, if she’s actually in a coma, that would be terrible. So I hope you guys not that number five about the rose Gall, I saw someone post this and I don’t remember if it was you guys or someone else. It was very interesting that there was like this huge article about this woman recently, as all this is coming out. It’s like there hadn’t been an article about her in a while. And there was like this feature in a magazine about her. And I’m like, That’s interesting why they would you know, what a follower said, which I thought was so interesting, and something Amanda would appreciate because she’s the website girl. Yeah, nobody said that. They’re doing it for their SEO, which is like the traffic to a website. So if everyone’s googling roses name, and you’re a website that has an article with her name in it, you’re gonna get good traffic on your website. I think it’s more than that. But that’s an angle that, yeah, I mean, why wouldn’t major media outlets that get good traffic Anyway, do it? Right? It doesn’t make that much sense to me. I think it’s just kind of weird that she would all of a sudden pop up like that, number one, and two kind of seems more likely to me like something’s just she doesn’t look very well. So she doesn’t want a picture of her looking God and like really sickly.
But then why not just say that, like, hey, let’s release a statement that says like, respect her time, and she’s still recovering from her health crisis and blah, blah, blah. Instead, it’s like they’re making her look bad. It’s like they are purposely throwing this woman under the bus. Yeah. Which is why everyone and I clearly remember Princess Diana passing, but I feel like I was too young to have like, followed it, like from their wedding to him cheating and I don’t watch the crown and all I will actually watch bravo to have time for that. But there is the sentiment that is like history repeating itself. Like they’re almost the media is soft, launching this rows character the same way they did Camilla. And like, there’s got to be something to it. Does it mean she’s necessarily pregnant? No. Does it mean that they’re necessarily getting a divorce? No. But at this stage, don’t we all collectively agree that clearly William has been up to putting his data on where it shouldn’t be? I mean, I think everyone, I think everyone knows at this point that he’s cheated. There are a couple of things about this whole thing that do not make sense to me. And that’s where I’m like, there’s just something up, right. The fact that they did this tweet from Kate, saying, I messed up on the editing. Yeah. Because that’s just strange, right? It’s like I learned from Khloe Kardashian. I don’t know how to edit photos. Right? The fact that like a gun, they’re not showing her face, and they’re making a going to great lengths to try to make it see see and like, she’s okay, and everything’s fine. And we’re seeing right through it. I think, you know, the William had those bruises on his neck and like that in a place it was like, kind of like right behind and below his ear, his left ear and like very clear bruising. How, how does one get bruises? They’re on accidents? I don’t. And like, where is the special effects makeup crew to cover them? Yeah. And I think that she’s not cooperating with the family and they are slightly throwing her under the bus. I think that her and William probably had a blowout fight. Maybe she freakin tried to strangle him. I don’t know. But the I mean, oh, God, I probably shouldn’t say that. I don’t want the royal family coming after me. This was just a joke. Yeah. But ya know, honestly, I think that she’s not cooperating. And she’s pissed about the rumors. And I think that maybe she found out something. And that’s what’s going on. That’s why she’s not just doing a video and being like, hey, it’s Kate, guys, thank you for worrying about me. But I’m here. That would be like the easiest thing to do. 100%. And now assuming that she has lost a lot of weight right? On a video, it would be quite easy to pat her up a little bit to look healthy weight.
Even with makeup, even with angles. This is the royal family. They have everything at their disposal. So if she weren’t cooperating, why wouldn’t they do that? The thing that I originally thought could be a possibility, but it’s still throwing her under the bus is what if the king is terminal? And they’re kind of like you know what, let’s put the attention somewhere else so that he can just go in peace kind of thing was she’s given them so much that why would they choose to throw her under the bus? They would just I just think that they would just do another mean article about Harry or something. Right? Absolutely.
A you know, I think why did that cousin drop dead of a head injury? What’s the story with that? No is that gunshot wound to the head?
They never said suicide. But that was what was implied now it’s out fishnet on his family’s property. Okay. Also you guys, this is why I don’t believe theory number three about cake. You know, unfortunately in the house, or whatever, yes. I don’t really believe that because I have been watching Celebrity Big Brother UK because my girlfriend en su from the traders is on there. And so Gary, I forget his last name, but he is her uncle. The uncle is on was on now he’s voted off sorry, spoilers. But he was on it with an I can sue God lover. She said where’s Kate? And asked him and he was just like, she’s like, at home or something. And so like, I think that he now maybe he doesn’t know. And he’s estranged from the family. But you have to think that if she is not well in that capacity, he would know. And so yeah, I just don’t believe that. I think that yeah, I think it’s more likely that William has been cheating. And I feel Yeah, I saw him I saw that scene because he’s like it IKEA I’ll I’ll comment when it comes out is what he said. Well, I thought he said like she was at home or shitless. Like he he um, it made it sound like there is something going there is something going on and like so I do watch the crown. I have been always been very interested in just the Royals and watching and I just have to point out that there is this weird, poetic strange thing going on. Because so a little history Queen Elizabeth, her father took the throne because his brother King Edward abdicated, so that the Queen’s uncle abdicated the throne, so he could go off and marry an American divorcee. Oh, hi. Remember that? I’m sayin? Oh, great. Look at Harry Harry has left royal life behind to go be with an American divorcee. Because remember, Megan was married before? Yeah. And then we see Charles left, you know, the English rose sweetheart, that everybody absolutely loved in Diana had a blatant affair with Camilla started doing these soft PR pieces, and really working to get Camilla out in society and has now you know, divorced it has now married her. And now we know William. Well, we don’t know, William, we allegedly hear that William has been having an affair with a woman a titled, A titled woman. She’s like the march ins of I forgot what it’s called. It’s a long word clunky or something weird. So now, I mean, what a strange thing. If this really is truly history repeating itself yet again. I just hope that we have some real answer and the end sooner than later because I feel bad for Kate and I feel bad for her family. And I just feel like it’s just not good for her. But I feel worried for her because, I mean, we all watched what happened with their mother. And there’s also three little kids involved in this and two of which are old enough to understand. I mean, Rackley. George is the oldest, right? He’s what 1011? Yeah, and the girls, eight or nine, like, they get it. They’re getting it there. I don’t know. It’s very only hide so much, even from the summer houses that they can go to or wherever you can only hide so much from these kids. Yeah, I just hope it just makes me so sad. Like, William, if this is true. I know. This is all alleged rumors. But if this is true, it is so sad that this classic gorgeous woman who gave him three beautiful children, that he would just go off and be with somebody else. Like, come on, who looks like an uglier version of her. I mean, really not like looking at everything. I’m not saying that. I’m just saying like, personally, if my husband’s having an affair, and I look over and she’s a muted version of me, I would not be happy, like, yeah, make her hot. Yeah.
If she’s me with worse lips and bigger teeth, I’m pissed.
Like, Kate, Kate is the princess that all of us would love to see. Be queen and she’s put in the work. I mean, she has she’s really bought into and really, you know, marched the company line and really done this and so it’s why everybody is thinking it’s really a health issue because I think there’s this assumption that they got married and what 2010 So, yeah, sup
hang around there. So she put 15 years in. Not only did she put those 15 years and she dated him since college, right? So she’s 20 plus years in on this. She is all in on the firm, Hook Line Sinker. She had the children, she gave him those funky names. I mean, she did it all. And to give it up now and not become queen. It seems like if he’s a cheater, he’s been a cheater. So it would have to be something where Williams, like his father did picking the horse face mistress over her. But yeah, I was just gonna say that, but maybe it’s not up to her. Right. You know, maybe yes, maybe it could be the hit. Hadn’t having a love child was a step too far. Or it could be that William has again totally this is just a theory has been having this button affair and wanting to get divorced and that the Queen was the one who was putting the kibosh on it and now that the Queen has gone, you know, it’s not like Charles could come out and say, No, you can’t do that, because that’s exactly what he did. Right? That’s all I’m saying. It’s like giving me Kyler Murray co lives.
Is there a love child? Is there not?
I mean, what about that reunion? how frustrating it was like, ah, yeah, Morgan’s hot, but I don’t know if we’re together.
There’s like one, there’s one aspect of that of me that’s just kind of like well, you know what, like, nobody wants to out someone when they’re before they’re ready to come out if that’s like what she chooses or whatever, right, which I totally understand and respect. However, fans want to know what happened with Marie to like, you don’t even I like, and also how Kyle is like, well, I just want to be private about it. girl like you did the music video. You guys are like, possibly what people are saying calling paparazzi and Aspen like multiple Amazon lives together. Yeah, like let’s be honest, Aspen is not a place like I’ve been there. There’s not like a bunch of paparazzi at Rounders that now. Seems like a low key town. Right. So yeah, I don’t know. i She knows what she’s doing. She’s a smart lady. I think yeah. I also think so this week. The clip showed from Horacio selling Beverly Hills and he talks about the reason that he opened the agency is because they wouldn’t Rick Hilton wouldn’t make him a partner wouldn’t give him equity at Hilton high land Paris comes out and slams Marie CL basically like your tacky Don’t talk about my father. Love that. Love it. But that that has to be back Kyler Murray CO are not in a good place. Right? Because that same night, Kyle is out on a red carpet hugging up with Kathy so they’re done. Like the Hilton’s have the go ahead to slam Orisha over to did it first and he wouldn’t have said that he would not have said that if he knew if there was any that is not a statement you make like my wife’s family fucked me over which is exactly is what he said. You don’t make that statement if you’re trying to reconcile with your wife 100% And you know that whole family look they fight they fight hard they love hearts but they ultimately in the end we see with Kyle and Kathy and Ken Like they will have each other’s back like right they they fight like every family but they love each other and they have and for him to go against that there’s no way to for him to like get back into their good graces in my opinion. No not at all. Oh God and those cringe tiktoks Oh, oh the windows. Latest one with him dancing to tech school. Oh, I know. I couldn’t watch it. I couldn’t watch it travel while it made me want to date women
for Shell we’re having you back I loved loved this. We could we could go on for three more hours.
John Well, you could stay with us for cocktails. You want to stay with us for the cocktail fun. Wait, when does that tell right after this? Yeah, we just we do it right after we roll about that in a minute. But tell us your Instagram handle tell us where are you Why cocktails to follow you? Oh okay. So on Instagram, I am at Chelsea I should get a ticket. I have a tick tock but I only post one thing on it and you guys Forgive me I’m 44 years old. It’s hard for me to get into these things. So I will try to learn how to do tick tock eventually. Probably whenever there’s something better coming out and then there’s something called the cruise of deception which is a cruise it’s going to be in 2025 and it’s going to be murder mystery slash traders people on there. It’s going to be me to go Sandra Yes, you are leaving from I believe it’s Fort Lauderdale. I will have the details on my job that you know I have a condo in Fort Lauderdale to show you come on the Chris I have to look at the exact date. I’m going to post it on my Instagram within the next few days but it
You guys want to be on my team? You can come and be on my team. Even if you don’t like me, I won Schrader’s guys like we’re gonna win on this ship. And there’ll be a bunch of other people from the show on there. I love it, guys. I will definitely get that info from true shell and link it to my Bravo and cocktails Instagram account. Cool. Thank you. Well, this was so fun, are you? This was so fun. All right cocktails Till next time, we love you guys. Thanks again for Shell. Bye, thank you so much. Appreciate it
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