108. Jax is Jaxxing;VPR EXCLUSIVE; A Summer House Theory

Who’s surprised that Jax is out there dating Only Fans models? Not us. B has some exclusive Vanderpump Rules tea. Who do we think the VPR couple who temporarily rekindled was? We think there are some clues in the Peacock extended version. And our thoughts on the final installment of the VPR reunion. We feel like we got some clarity. Summer House: B has a theory on why Amanda is seemingly on Carl’s side. And we have another theory about why Kyle called Craig a liar on WWHL. We have some exclusive RHONJ cast updates. And why is Teresa having lunch with the hairdresser who “exposed” her for allegedly having an affair when Joe was in prison a few years ago? We smell a setup and hope Danielle does too.

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What’s up cocktail colors? It’s busy around here. Oh my gosh. Hi, pack Taylor’s guys. Don’t be like are you sleeping at all right now or you feel like you have been posting around the clock and there’s been there’s been a lot of good stuff. And there’s so many emails as you know, that are still sitting because it’s like everybody took off Memorial Day. And everyone woke up on Sunday and Monday and was like, oh, shoot, let me send this into Bravo, cocktail. Yeah, love you send it send it. And I’m sorry, guys, if you’re hearing something that my dog just snored. He’s sitting in my lap, Tom months, a really good month to be a cocktail hour. And this is one of those months. So if you’ve been if you’ve been thinking of signing up, and again, it’s a month like you cancel anytime we have I have so many people that are like, I canceled yesterday. And now you’re posting this link and then re sign up or don’t Yeah. And they’ll ask me they’re like, Who is this about? And if I’m like Southern charm, they’re like, I don’t watch that. Thanks for telling me. I’ll sign up another month. And I’m like, totally get it. Yeah. Or people will sign up and then like, they’ll immediately cancel because they want to, you know, watch their budget and just subscribe for one month. Like it’s totally cool. And we’re so always so happy to see people come back, you know, people go on town on long trips. And anyway, but I literally this morning, I looked started to look through, you know, when you like somebody has been like the little dots at the very top of the screen or tiny, tiny, tiny on Instagram, if there’s a ton of posts. Yeah, it took me I mean, probably 3540 minutes to get through all of your posts, because then reading among cocktail too, because guys, I can obviously look at the back end of the website, but it’s fun to kind of read it like you guys do. So. Yeah. There’s been a lot going on today going on this week. Just in general. Yeah, this week. I feel like that weekend was really slow. And then this week was like, double every day was double. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, that’s low because Jax was
just gonna say that Jax was out there. Jack saying it up. So over the weekend, he was spotted out on a date. And then he was at his and Britney’s bar for Jeremy Maddix. Who is Ariana is brother’s birthday. So as as you guys know, I’ve been really interested in following this whole situation. Because I don’t know. I think it’s so strange. Though Ariana is currently somewhat estranged from her brother. They’re not speaking. Yeah, I think he’s making a play to get on the I would bet the valley. And if you’ve been following our posts, he’s done a lot of things like talk to the media about her and just things that would turn anyone off. And my feeling is that she spoke to him and been like, Could you not and he’s continued and it’s sort of weird that then you have Sheena, who is also I don’t know if she’s fully not speaking to Ariana but we know they’re not in a good place. You have you have all these now you know why?
I mean, we’re gonna get we’re gonna get to them. But first we got to get to Jack to Java. Yeah. Okay, so Jeremy has his party, or his like post dinner party at the bar. Let’s call Jackson. It’s actually Jackson Britney is but it’s called Jackson just to clarify. And then right after they finished singing happy birthday in this video that’s been going around. You hear this woman shout I’m I’m pregnant, which we’re hoping is a joke because she was drinking she was drinking
Dang, but like that would be a real slap in the face to Britney who has been very public about wanting another child. We heard this from a follower. So I’ll just read this email that they sent into the tea section on Bravo and cocktails.com It says I live in Studio City Valley village. We don’t have paparazzi casually hanging out looking for Jax. He goes to Casa Vega and other restaurants all the time, even when the whole cast of Vanderpump Rules was at a restaurant right next door to the one that Jackson his date or yesterday after the VEPR reunion. There was no paparazzi or press the fact that the press specifically knew Jax was picked up from his house, knew where to take a picture spent three hours there and then reported that he was dropped off at his bar demonstrates that this was clearly a story planted by someone’s publicity team. Is it the thirsty New Girl or is he angling for a scandal vault type situation for Brittany to get brand deals from maybe the publicist he allegedly banged in the bathroom has cooked up a master plan. So as of this afternoon, Jax posted something that said I’m not dating anybody. I wish I could tell you guys what was really going on. Okay, whatever people have said that they are dating Paige woolen is apparently a woman who makes her living off of only fans. I was also told that she was kicked off RIAA for posting about famous men’s being men’s you hear me men in her DMs. That’s where that should be the deal. That’s funny, because I have a friend who is on RIAA right now. And she was like, she was like, I think they’re gonna kick me off. And I’m like, why? And she like, because I keep trying to screenshot the people. She’s like, I keep trying to screenshot the people that like pop up for me so I can show it to friends. And she’s like, they’ve warned me if I do it again, they’re gonna kick me.
Because it’s very private. They take the privacy very seriously. Apparently, she’s not dating, which is good. If you’re a cheater, you want privacy. So she also started this Instagram account where she would slide into married men DMS. Now I’m not clear. I didn’t look that into it if she like a wife asked her to or if she voluntarily did this, and that if the men took the bait, right, so if the married men took the bait, she would post about them on this Instagram account. During COVID. She was routinely a guest on Jeff Lewis’s podcast. So is Brittany in a master plan with the publicist who she has since reconciled with post rumored bathroom bang. She’s reconciled with or just been in a picture with her. Right. She’s been in the picture with her. Yeah, correct. Correct. And I believe they followed each other again, and Jackson put her back in his bio. Are they trying for an Ariana style situation where she gets all these offers? I don’t know if either one of them really are like smart enough to plan ahead. And why would this page person? I mean, maybe she’d want the exposure? Yeah. I mean, I don’t know. I don’t I don’t think Jax is really thinking with his brain. Here. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s really that deep. I, you know, do I think because it’s all happening that they think it’s good for the show. So they post this stuff? Absolutely. Right to I think they’re manufacturing it for storylines, maybe even with the help of the PR person. I don’t know. I think first of all, this PR lady, what’s her name Laurie Kay. Once she probably wants Jax for herself. I don’t know. And then has Jasmine called this woman his girlfriend? No. Today he denied it on his show. He’s not dating her because I think they were making out more than one follower. Yeah. told me that they were making a sandwich. I think it’s like just a person who’s scurrying right now because like, I’m wondering if other people have put that label on her because like, just because we’ve seen her a few times in a row and like paparazzi and social media. And so somebody sent me a picture that Jack’s posted to his story weeks ago, which apparently and I want to make sure to credit this person was originally on a Reddit thread as listeners of our pod. No, I don’t know how to work Reddit. When people send me stuff from it. If I use it, I always would say it’s from wherever it’s from. This was a Reddit user blocked by Jack’s. So his picture was sent to me I shared it and there’s the credit Reddit user blocks by Jack’s so selfie with Jack’s posted to his stories. It’s him an older man and Schwartz. And it was like the dad put it to his stories and then Jack shared it and it said oh snap who’s with Tom so like he was hanging out with pages dad wherever they live. I have no idea and obviously not in Valley village. They were hanging out somewhere. This was weeks ago. So
I’m inclined to think Jackson is fooling around with this woman. I hope she’s not too attached though because he was spotted out with a another only fans girl this time a blonde also making out the night before the lunch with Paige, which then turned into her being at Jeremy’s party, etc, etc. Now, Brittany has been on podcasts and been open about the fact that they can both date so the thing that I find disrespectful is him doing it in the bar, because that’s their place of business. And Jeremy is a mutual friend of theirs. And a lot of Britney’s friends were there. So obviously, I don’t know if she planned to go but I’m sure that if she did plan, she changed that plan because why the hell would she want to go? Or she was like home with their son. Right? Like she’s. Yeah, I don’t know. I think I agree with you. I think it’s disrespectful. I think this page person is really just the girl that he’s screwing right now. I think I think she’ll be the first in a long line of situation chips, which is, you know, what Gen Z, I think now calls what we used to call like, Fuck buddies, or FW B’s, like, you know, like, I’m not falling out on my seat surprised about any of us, because I’m sure that he’s feeling like he’s been, you know, Married for so long. And, you know, so long. So such a long, seven years. Right? You think, Amanda, that he’s gonna run through a bunch of his only fan girls and try to take Brittany back? Or do you think that he’s going to enjoy this? And what do you think? I think it depends on Brittany. I think eventually, I could see him being like, I’m stupid. Realizing how expensive divorces you know, one of these girls plays him and he gets his feelings hurt. Yeah. You know, or worse. Yeah. But I think it depends on Britney. And I don’t know, she seems like she’s kind of done. Although we had a cocktail or who talked to her at the White House Correspondents Dinner who said that? She said they’re still hanging on by Yes. She say like a hair and a biscuit. Yes. Something like that. So maybe there was a point where they were like, back to hooking up and trying to make it work. And then he did a whole run with only fan girls. And now she’s like, done again.
Yeah, I would imagine and like I was watching watching the valley, and somebody said, oh, yeah, Brittany has gone through all of his his phone. She has all his passwords. She hasn’t he hasn’t seen anything. But I happen to want like, because remember a long time ago and Jax set up a fin stir. And they figured out the other rest of the cast figured out it was him because something has to do with his phone number. Like he’s probably got a fenced, like you can you can set up a fence. So that has nothing to do. It’s not attached to your account. You can set it up, you know, just by setting something up on online. So I would not be surprised if he’s had one. And we’ve been following these women for a long time. There was something kind of funny. I mean, I don’t know. I think it’s kind of funny that we got an email about so it said health inspectors health health inspectors at Jax is meeting the bar. And it says the health inspectors had to conduct an investigation of jackasses as he was caught on video, changing his son’s diaper on top of the bar in front of Brittany. To top it off. Jasmine from the valley was one who posted the video that got the health inspectors called I mean, that’s Listen, we’re both mothers a lot of you guys or mothers or aunts or uncles what have you. You don’t change a baby diaper where you serve food and drink. Absolutely not. Yeah, it’s just so yuck. Yeah, in some not funny news. We saw Brittany post and she made like a lengthy story post that to summarize basically said like people shouldn’t be bringing up her son, which I wholeheartedly agree or her parenting. Yeah, she wasn’t specific. I have seen people criticizing her parenting leave kids. I mean, this is a toddler. This is not like a jersey situation where the kids are 20 years old. Leave babies and young children completely out of it. We have only seen her be a wonderful mom. I’m so sick. Amanda as I’m sure you are and our listeners are of just the general mom shaming. You never hear anyone question when a father goes on a golf trip or a father goes out after a business meeting with friends from work and comes home late and is drunk like nobody ever says anything about that. But if you are I take a weekend to do the same. It’s like judgment
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I mean, I am just I’m the mom shaming is just epic. And I really truly believe that so much of it comes from people who are not moms themselves. I have never seen a mom right. I can’t even think of a situation where another mom yeah, has I’m not saying it doesn’t exist. I’m sure that no no are you know, holier than thou people but that’s few and far between.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it’s just Eric and I hate it. And it’s I think it’s just another of these like friggin signs of the patriarchy, right. Because yeah, so women should be home. They shouldn’t you know, men can go on golf trips, but women can’t. And, you know, it’s whatever the criticism of Brittany is like, Jax isn’t getting it. It’s all going at her. And that’s just, it’s just gross. You know, now that I know so much about how golfers live their lives. I don’t want any of our husbands going on golf trips. I mean, yeah, especially the Minikin Republic, as we’ve been told on Potomac, I guess there’s
quite a lot of things shenanigans that go on on those trips. But once again, we get another reminder. And like actually, you just posted about something else too. But how did the roots go back on between like the Vanderpump Rules and the valley casts? Because we find out that Sheena, hooked up with Janet’s husband back in the day, and then you also today posted that who woulda Did you the threesome with Janet? Ah, god I was it. No, not Kristen. Dana. Dana. Yes, it was Dana that somebody said that she like and that she’s been on a like a Janet’s been like on a ton of the Vanderpump Rules like it’s yeah, it’s so easy how deep these roots Dana was asking Janet for a threesome back in back in the day and Stassi and Sheena discussed the huge crush Dana had on Janet. And they all hang out all the time. Like
it’s it’s and then Tina show many piano with Janice husband, Jason. So many people from Janet’s hometown have messaged me to say that and they’ve all basically said the same thing. Be just ask her first husband about her desire to be on reality TV because the way that the story has been told, and certainly it’s possible that there are a group of bitter friends like like crystal mincoffs 14 friends who don’t like her anymore, but several people from wherever she’s from, which I don’t even remember basically wrote in to say that she left her first husband after a trip to Hollywood where she met Sheena to basically pursue friendship with Sheena and company and get on a reality show. Worked and
It actually worked, which is kind of wild. It works like kids don’t try that at home. But in this case, it did work. Seriously. I mean, I would love to and I, we have cocktails. I mean, you guys are so talented. I would like to know which of you guys are good with, like charts and data visualization. Because I feel like we need to make, like I’m imagining, like some kind of flowchart. So we can keep track of like, who’s hooked up with who, but I feeling like even if we tried to do like a regular flow chart with arrows, you know, it has to be in the middle, and then come out from her. But then it would there’d be so many arrows like, I’m wondering if it’s more like a spreadsheet with like, checkmarks. So it’s like Sheena, and then it’s like, did she hook up with Jax? Did she hook up with shorts? Did you hook up with Sandoval? And check mark or not? When I was in college, and I would like to point out, I was studying abroad at the time. Some of my friends made a hookup chart, and legitimately listed all of us and did all the arrows and who we like made out with like bars and like information that should never have been written down. But it gets better. They left it in the copy machine of the library because they were making copies for those of us that were doing spring semester abroad to mail them to us. And they left the main copy in the frickin copy machine. So what happened? I like somebody’s got their hands on. No, no. Oh, God, thank God. Imagine imagine. Yeah. Oh, no, thank God, but it was like, I don’t know if anything happened. Or if like they just wrote along the note like, by the way, we also left this in the copy machine. And we were all first of all, I received this chart. And I’m like, my roommates like that I was studying abroad with we’re like, what is this? Like? Oh, it’s nothing, just a silly little chart, like hiding it under my bed like What the hell were you on the chart? On it, I was not the most popular in the group. I’ll put it to you that way. My friend who was the most popular was not happy, very unhappy. And I remind just to do a little tangent. I need to say this. And I need to say it on here. And I’m I wanted to say it a couple of weeks ago. So I posted today already say this about how I posted Bryn being the modern day Carrie Bradshaw. Did I talk about that? Or just? Did we talk about it? We talked about it a little bit. Yeah. So and I just do comment and stuff. And I think that it’s important to note that a lot of people were in my D were in the comments on the posts saying like, are we still standing her behavior Carrie Bradshaw. And I think it’s important for people to realize I was in like high school college when Sex in the City was out, right. And at that time, a group of women in their 20s 30s in Samantha’s case, 40s, sitting around and openly discussing sex and dating, and one night stands and all of these things, was very unheard of. And I think that girls in their 20s and even early 30s probably don’t realize that, but for people our age, Amanda, would you agree that like it was pretty revolutionary? Oh, yeah. Like there was so much shame attached to being and Amanda and I were both raised Catholic and like being a young woman who had like, a sexual desire and was open about it, and like, made out with a bunch of guys or did more than make out whatever, whatever. And I know in the past, people have made like comments on our pod, like, oh, my god, you guys don’t say certain words or you giggle or whatever. But we were raised for many years where it was outlandish for women to talk like that. So when people want to not Carrie Bradshaw, obviously, if you look at the show, 20 years later, a lot of it is outdated. A lot of it is outdated. A lot of the stuff isn’t politically correct. Of course, we agree with all that. But specifically the sex part. I know for me, it normalized it in a way that nothing in my life ever had. So that is why I think women our age hold that show in such high regard because it allowed us to have a place where we can be like we’re not crazy. Absolutely. And like there were you know, there was a Samantha Who was just out now like, you know, with her sexuality, there was a Charlotte who was definitely like a little bit more prim and proper, but still liked and loved sex. And I feel like a lot of girls of our generation were kind of taught that we should be the Charlotte. Yes, but the Charlotte but like, there was also never anything about like, it’s okay to like, like sex. And that’s why like, I think the Charlotte character was so interesting. And I think it was also so interesting that in that show, women took the lead and a lot of cases, you know, and you know, there there was so much about career and so much just about friendship and I mean, take
Like any show from the 90s, early 2000s, and there’s gonna be stuff that feels cringe worthy now because yeah, things have changed and people and cultures evolved and whatever but it was I couldn’t agree with you more that it was it was so groundbreaking. I mean, my girlfriends and I were when we were in our, you know, just graduated from college and living in apartments would get together every Sunday night to watch it, you know, we would order food. And we would watch the show and like that was part of what you know. And like we would usually get together before and talk about what all we did the night before, and we live the night and the weekend and all of that. So it was very much a cultural thing. This man after investing billions to light up our network, T Mobile is America’s largest 5g network. Plus right now you can switch keep your phone and we’ll pay it off up to $800 See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT and T AT T mobile.com/across. America.
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So, as a matter of fact, just to show you how taboo it was, I remember being like a junior or senior in college and home for a break, and being in my friend’s house and us like sneaking in the basement so that her parents wouldn’t hear us watching it. Like and we were 20 Like we were not 14. So because you never know, you never knew what you were gonna get on the show to because like it was hard to another see it and then there would be like full on, you know, like nudity and sex. And so it was definitely not something I was wanting to watch with my mom either either. Not that my mom was super prim and proper, either, but
you kind of didn’t know what I was gonna throw at you. So anyway, I want to bring that back around though to say to because of the this like data flow chart like that I’m making a joke about it’s not like a shaming thing. It’s more of a like, literally how deep these roots go with each other. And how many of these people in their young and single days had like hooked up and you know, Sienese dated or whatever. And that’s what I think partially makes this show so good. Both of them Vanderpump. And the valley is because the roots are there and the friendships are real. 100%
Yeah, okay. So so on the heels of us, we heard some speculation that Schwartz and his girlfriend split. I think they may have unfollowed each other on Instagram. I’m not sure it hasn’t been confirmed. But this was on the heels of another rumor that was swirling that a Vanderpump Rules couple briefly rekindled and when they said briefly, it was kind of meant as like a one night for Dan. So now we’re all speculating. Was it Katie and Schwartz? Did the girlfriend and him have a quarrel because of that or split or what have you? I don’t know. I mean, it’s hard to say I’m trying to think of when he posted that video with her where he was doing the weird tic tock trend the dancing thing and that like it looked like it was like a hotel room in Vegas. But I’m wondering if maybe I can’t remember when that was a while back. It was a while back so I don’t know I keep thinking about like, which came first the rekindle or the Schwartz breakup. Maybe the rekindle actually came before he started dating that girl. Seriously, I don’t know but I know you have peacock. I don’t know if you I know you watch a lot of the shows live. I often watch them on peacock the next day because no ads
And also because of the extended content so sometimes I don’t always know like what is which so what errored on the Bravo version two but on the peacock version of season three, the sorry reunion number three on VPR Tom says he still cries about his divorce from Katie and misses her he says like it was the right decision but like that he still cries and then he misses her and they both get kind of teary. So you know, that line that was going around? Maybe that happened, like right after the reunion, because you could definitely see her soften. Yes, him in that scene. I don’t know. Oh, I so I shared that scene. I actually I usually watch it live. And then if I can I like I always get around to watching the peacock version. But I don’t always get around to it in time for us to record. In this case, I did see the clips online. Right. And you know, I’m very anti Schwartz. But he is very good at his manipulation because there are moments that I mean, listen, if you could talk and Katie and I get it. She was married to him. But it just like shows what a good manipulator he is because she seemed through everybody. I mean, she was right about everybody that she she was hard on. I actually was thinking the same thing because I feel like she sees through most of his bullshit, but maybe like even he can kind of get to her with the minute manipulation. What else did you think about three union in general, what really hit for me was when Arianna said I get the frustration, but I don’t get the insults. And you know, I think Lala in some ways is missing the point. And in the dressing room after she point blank says I never see Ariana and I don’t really care about her in Katy. And I think we also in that dressing room when she was talking to Sheena I think we got to see what it was really about. And it was really about when her and Randall and their breakup was really bad. There was that LA time Times article where Randall was being accused of being an abuser and that he liked to be with women who would get very high so that he could he like, it was a kink for him to have sex with women who were like, basically blackout, like really disturbing stuff. And so I think that it’s unfair, that Lala gets painted like it’s there’s a difference between Okay, she was a mistress, and from how she tells it, she really believed that he loved her and they had a child together and that they were gonna get married. And yes, she suffered when they broke up because she did find out a lot of shocking, disturbing things. And what she was saying was it’s not fair that Ariana has been able to dictate how things went down and yet she had to go to go to the reunion and everybody was like slamming her and questioning her. So I understand her frustration with like, I agree with exactly what Ariana said and I understand her frustration with the way the show did it with the way production did it even with the way her cast members did it. I don’t understand the pointed insults at Ariana like Yeah, and I think that Lala just gets so hot. And I can kind of relate to this where like she goes off as you get older. Hopefully that’s something you work on. People with hot tempers can do that. And hopefully it’s something she works on because in the dressing room, it made more sense. And even though it wasn’t really nice what she said about Ariana and Katie, you know, she’s not fully at fault. They’re either like Ariana and Katie kind of worked a pair and Harun Tino were a pair. And so everybody’s at fault there, right? Like, the bonds were closer than whatever it was, which is okay. Right in a group of friends. That’s often the case. But I think that the insults are were Lala looked back. Yeah, I agree. I have to say, I loved Ariana even more after watching Part Three because she really did. She spoke truth and she was genuine. She was living her authentic life. And I think she’s cheated. She hinted at it. But I think you know, the producers gotten a heads of the rest of the cast, that you know what they thought how they thought the show should go what they thought the ending should be. And then she said Matthew, like, you want me to be authentic and real, so I’m going to be authentic and real. Like I just read something today. Did you know that she was a one Ariana was the one who called production after she found out about the affair? I did not know that. I didn’t either. I thought I would love to credit who I thought I was on some Instagram account but even with us like seemingly know all the details about scannable I did not know that so like the single most painful thing maybe we did. There’s there’s so much transpired that was amazing to me though especially seeing like that everybody calling her out for not lit
authentically, and the fact that the most painful thing that’s ever happened to her that she caught again, that was the case, there’s a reason we don’t know it because even watching Secrets Revealed, there was seemingly an entirely different season of fun and activities that they didn’t show us much of it. The girls hanging out and not fighting, the producers clearly had an angle to turn the group against Ariana so we’re not going to see, even Katie, who may have said it on camera, give her the credit and go bullshit. Ariana is the one who CO production and said, Hey, so he’s been cheating on me with Raquel if you want to get over here and film it? Yeah. You know, I don’t know what their ultimate goal was. I did here today. This is an exclusive cocktail post that Ariana will not be back. I don’t even know if I told you that. Amanda. I saw the post. So no, but I’m sorry, allowed Taylor’s first.
I’m only allowed to say that it is a reliable source that told me I don’t source told me from a reliable source. So she I mean, what is there for her to continue to film the show. And she’s got so many other things happening. You know, sometimes you have to bet on yourself too. Right? Like, yeah, she’s in a position where I absolutely get it. Because she’s smart. And she’s a rational, reasonable person. She knows, nobody stays hot forever. Okay, reality stars, they have their season to shine. And then the new shiny one comes out. It’s like a car, right? Everyone loves a car, and then the new model comes out. And so it is not an easy decision for her to walk away from a steady check. No, of course not. And even if it’s less of a check, even if the even if Bravo was like, Listen, you made seven or 800,000 Last year, we’re only prepared to give you four, you’re still walking away from $400,000 Not knowing that the brand deals are gonna roll in not knowing that you’ll be asked back on love island because the girl before her received a text saying you’re not the host and the next scandal version of whatever could be somebody else and she’s on her ass. And we know that Broadway doesn’t pay, right. So it’s a risk, but I think she should bet on herself. Well, and Ariana has a way of saying biting things, saying things that kind of cut to the bone. And like, you know, in the past, it’s not always been she just has a way of saying saying a biting thing, but because there’s some truth to it, right. And I think she’s gonna be great as a host because I think she’ll call some of these reality contestants out for their behavior. So I think you know, I think that for her and your writing sometimes you do have to bet on yourself and now is the time because otherwise she’s just going to be in this like, essentially cesspool where they just keep trying to push Sandoval on her and she doesn’t need that wholeheartedly agree at this reunion. It doesn’t even make sense for them to try to do that. Because she was clear. I’m curious what they’re gonna what the heck they’re gonna do, how this is all going to work if they if they do pick it back up. It just feels feels gonna come back in some capacity. Yeah, it just feels a little broken to me. I don’t know. What else should we chat about from the reunion? I mean, Joe being there at all felt weird. Schwartz going off on Jax. I know. And then he said that Joe was a liar. So Brittany’s podcast Brittany and Jax his podcast and he said Joe is this terrible person who did stuff that he can’t even speak about to his family? And I’m like, wait a minute. Is this the same Tom Schwartz who rode so hard for her against Katie? Yeah, I’m getting confused now because I literally have been taking in so much content in the last couple of days catching up with everything. Oh, no. summerhouse, Martha’s Vineyard. We had told you guys a couple of weeks ago. It was made public that it is not renewed. They said yeah, they said it was well I trust this source. They said it was not canceled. But here’s what’s interesting, Amanda is better over here at TMobile get for 5g phones on us in four lines for $25 A line per month when you switch with eligible traders all on America’s largest 5g network.
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a source that I know know somebody who has been auditioning under the guise of you’re auditioning for summer house Martha’s Vineyard now that tells me that it that was like a quote unquote working title but that they’re doing something I don’t know if they’re keeping some of the cast and trying to find new cast or they were working the format where they’ve clearly told the cast the existing cast something because Preston Yeah, from the cast state did a big post about it today. And just like a grateful like, Thank you for the opportunity, making it very much sound like an ending to me. So just trying to find a new group of people to do a summer house maybe somewhere else. I don’t know. I think the format I think part of the problem is the format that there are weeks, two weeks, it’s just it’s it’s not like a housewives we’re each where we know each of these cast members so well that like we we kind of want to watch and see what they’re doing. It’s we don’t know a lot of these people very well yet and it’s we’re not getting I don’t know it doesn’t it also feels disjointed with like some of them being single and some of them not and then like I had a really hard time staying engaged in the show this season because of that, so I don’t know but I am really excited to watch so today is Thursday. We’re recording really excited to watch summer house tonight. I am super excited. One thing I wanted to add to that is I think part of the problem with the format is with summer house the Hamptons. You have a whole eight weeks to let everything marinate right and like if we start two weeks of Western Sierra it would be like lovey dovey Baba Baba but when you let it marinate you see that they’re not on the same page and this guy who seemingly was so into hers then like Yeah, yeah, no no but you’re not my girlfriend so I think the the longer time lets you really take it all in but okay, I’m excited for tonight’s episode. What do you know tell me what you know so what I know is that there’s no love lost between Amanda and Lindsay apparently when all the girls meet up a man this is this is tonight’s episode which you guys will see. Amanda is very much on Carl side. That’s not That’s not surprising. And honestly, I can’t believe Amanda those Danielle and Lindsey and like all those OG girls treated Amanda like dirt when back in the day, and they like this is the first season I think that Lindsay really Oh, like when Amanda first came on the show. Yeah. So you think it goes back to you think that’s you think that Amanda Bian Carlos it goes back to that. I think it a general way I think we’ve seen throughout the summer a man to have hearts to heart, heart to heart like the conversation that they had and Kyle and Amanda’s bedroom with Carl, I think Paul married her and Kyle. I think Kyle I think Amanda very much loves Carl and consider some considers him a very close friend. Yeah, I think that both her and Kyle have always seen like the distance in their friendship they’ve always pinned on Lindsey. I always think that they’re say that I think they blamed a lot of what happened in the last couple of years on, on on Lindsey. And I don’t think that’s fair. And you know, it’s funny, Kyle, you know, I always felt like Kyle was I don’t know, I felt he handled situations well. And I’m feeling that less and less especially this season like his whole like meltdown with Ahmed DJ blah blah blah. But did you see that watch what happens life I have not had a chance. I have read about it. So I know
Oh, that he called Craig a liar. When he got asked about Kyle partnering with spritz social who is cloudy? It’s Claudia oshri. Right? The host of toast the toast. Yes. I have to say like, I again, I haven’t watched it, but I’ve read it in enough places that I believe that this happened. I gotta say like, bad luck for him. But I do actually think Kyle is quite masterful with words and like how to handle situations when he is sober, especially doing interviews. I just can’t help but wonder, do you think him kind of coming out so hard against crag could be a way to seed a new storyline for this summer? Because if he calls credible liar, he’s obviously going to get pages wrath two, and then that could then cause issues for her and Amanda. I don’t see this as a deal him and Craig worked out. I could see Kyle doing that. Because he’s looking for a storyline and he doesn’t want it to be his struggling marriage like it was this year. Yeah. So I could switch to that point. Who knows how much of that is true? Because I think Kyle, strong word to call somebody a liar like that, especially unknown liar. Yeah, I think that I can see Kyle doing it. I think he wants to stay on the show. But the problem is, if he was doing that, it backfired. And it backfired, because had the answer been, Oh, I wish him well. There’s room for all of us. So many of our listeners and followers had never heard of spritz. They missed the announcement that credit Craig made because it wasn’t a big announcement. He posted it to his stories. So out of loyalty to Craig, they ordered spritz had a record sales weekend. And Kyle made that statement before Memorial Day weekend, which couldn’t have helped them. Right. You know, on the last pot, Amanda Okay. So here’s the other thing. Some of my followers were like, oh, Craig did lie about the bar and law school. Okay, so first, let’s put everything in perspective. 10 years ago, when Craig was hanging out with a bunch of trust fund babies, Thomas Ravenel, Shep, who were all his elders, who came from like, aristocratic families, or old money or whatever the hell those people are, right? Yeah, Craig tried to make himself look more successful than he was to keep up with the Joneses does not make him a known liar. Craig has since first of all, he passed the bar. Second of all, he’s opened successful, very successful business. He’s opening a second location. He’s an investor in several businesses. He clearly changed his life. He wrote a book about having an Adderall addiction, how he quit Adderall, all of these things. That to call him a known liar in to like, as of today don’t make sense. Yeah, he is the only one on all of these shows that I can think of who has never cheated on any of his girlfriends. So I think that we’ve watched Craig go through hard times. I think we’ve watched Craig grow into like a very successful, honorable man. So I thought it was a real shot at him. But what I noticed from the episode of summer house, the one that just passed, remember, last pod you and I were like why isn’t he selling this? Like entrepreneurs start a business and then they sell it off? Amanda said exactly that. She’s like, I married an entrepreneur, why is he holding on to this business? I thought it would have been sold and he would have been on to his next thing. Yeah, I don’t know. I really really can’t wait to watch your union. I’m, it’s been really interesting reading comments on Bravo and cocktails.com. So like, this morning, there was a post just talking about him and Lindsay’s fight and how like deep curl goes in and I think the audience, you know, in terms of at least the audience who’s watching and then now then commenting on the website, they seem kind of split. So I feel like half think that Carl is being really manipulative, passive aggressive, really, both trying to bait Lindsey but also really trying to play to the audience. I think the other half seems to be like, Oh, no, you know, Lindsey has been terrible. So you know, I think it’s just a it’s, I think it’s a really interesting just ongoing conversation, because you and I have definitely kind of changed our mind. So I’m curious to see where we end up after watching tonight. I also saw the watch party in New York and LA both showed the last episode, so we did hear that what I posted about it, so yeah, you guys probably read it to that. correlate like says some real nasty stuff. Yeah, like that. The landlord’s call them complaining that about Lindsay yelling at him, which is by the way, bullshit
because she renewed her lease. Yeah. And if there is screaming going on to the level that they’re concerned, in New York City, they’re calling the cops. They’re not calling like the person themselves. Yeah, a lot of people weighed in on that in the comments too. And they’re like, I don’t believe that. Like, that’s just not a thing in New York. So it’s not. I don’t know. It’ll be interesting. Should we chat jersey? I mean, there’s been weeks because a lot of you guys actually said to me, last pod. We didn’t we did do it in the cocktail pie. But last pod. We didn’t do much jersey and the people missed it. Okay, so let’s start with the argument with Marge and Jackie. Well, I wouldn’t you think I want your opinion on that argument? What did you think about that argument
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Because it was very layered, it was very layered. It’s one of those arguments that feels like it’s really it’s not about the pasta. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like it this is about something else that they’re not discussing on screen. So I think what is really going on, it’s not Marge, saying like, I can’t believe you haven’t given me your book. I think it’s Marge calling Jackie out saying What the fuck are you doing? becoming best friends with Teresa and changing sides? I see you What are you doing? And that’s what I’m saying to her. Why don’t you fight for me to be at Danielle’s event? If you would have put some pressure on Danielle would have had to invite me. Yeah, you know what I’m saying? So I agree with you. There seems to be a lot of anger on both sides. First at the top of this I want to say that I see Jackie’s point in the argument and I’ll get to that but the fact that Jackie sat at that table when Theresa called Marge a dog which bitches he can Teresa said something like which bitches you’re gonna take his real dog or Margaret and Jackie didn’t say anything I believe She smirked. I don’t begrudge Jackie being upset with March but to align yourself with them and not speak up for her right because you could be upset with your friend and still have their back in public. So I think any human being should say what the heck Teresa that is a totally rude thing to say about any others. Oh, didn’t dole out like none of them now. I was.
And Dolores and like I was disappointed. Margaret said something about Jackie’s mom. Although she stopped quickly. The message was delivered and the audience heard it. Oh yeah. I think Marge also clearly told somebody that she got Jackie the book deal, which is why when she said I champion’s you, Jackie point blank said, Are you saying you got me the book deal? Yeah. And she said, No, of course not. I think that Marge, you know, and I want to say this, and I think you’ll agree, but I do think so Marge is Jackie is in her early 40s. And Marge is in her late 50s. And I do think that there is a certain amount of deference that you give to your elders. I know for me, somebody doesn’t necessarily need to like be my superior at work, or be my quote unquote, aunt, but if they’re like 15 years older than me, then there is a sort of thing where like your older, wiser whatever you give them a certain level of
Specht. Yeah, and I think that Jackie did that with Marge. And they very much had like a very like nice friendship. But at a point Jackie saw it as Marge bossing her around. I don’t know if it’s the elder thing. I think I think one of two things I think of a couple of things. One I think March is just one of those personalities who is a little bit more of a like it’s my way or the highway. If I don’t want to talk about XYZ at dinner I’m gonna change the subject in a way that we change the subject I think that’s a little bit how March is and I don’t hate that about their hair. I think there’s a lot of people who are like that right? I felt like Jackie was maybe even calling Marge out for orchestrating and for being a puppet master and I think that’s what Jackie was saying versus so much of a like respecting you know, the elder or because I agree with you I feel the same way with my friends that are older too. But I don’t think that’s what Jackie was. I don’t think that’s what that is about. I think Jackie was like, literally without saying as much calling march out for being a pub right? Because then when jet when March goes I can’t do this anymore. I can’t do this anymore. She goes who’s asking you to like there’s so much like real beef there. And I also think that when Jackie was cut down to a friend and Marge wasn’t there was a sense for both of them that Marge had the upper hand and I can see Marge saying things like let’s bring Jackie to this let’s get Jackie back on full time because listen when when things were all good between them it was to march is benefit to have Jackie full time because it’s her friend and she had her back and so without her there full time she had a navigate. She didn’t probably give Jackie as much attention because she was busy trying to get every the full time people on her side. So she probably gave Rachel Fouda the attention which we know she did, which Jackie didn’t love because she saw Rachel’s taking her place on the cast. And so Jackie’s come back to that was to sit at a table with Jen and Teresa who she has, you know, notoriously despised right since she walked on that show and they need somebody right because we watch them they’re ready to throw Danielle under the bus they have the hairdresser there guys. I don’t know if you recognize this because I didn’t until a follower pointed it out but that hairdresser is the same hairdresser who when Judy che juicy Joe was in jail and him and Teresa were still married whether or not they were like separated and just weren’t saying it came out and said Teresa was cheating on him. Kim D brought her around and they filmed her saying it. So this woman is now back to say that Danielle was mean to her an event at an event Danielle does herself no favors in the preview when she goes Who is she? Why should she be in VIP? I mean, that’s kind of messed up because the girl did your hair. So like that’s messed up. And that shows Danielle that shows who Danielle is. But why is Jen who supposedly friends with Danielle doing this? All right. I mean, it’s a clear setup. I think that there was a lot more fallout from the reunion where Danielle kind of realizes that she was kind of set up to do a lot of this crap. And to be the minion and I think Jen and Teresa have realized that that Danielle isn’t necessarily going to play along and so they, you know, so they’re setting her up like, like, I didn’t get in. Yeah, I was hoping to be neutral. But Jen and Teresa were like, Oh no, you’re either riding with us or you’re out. Yeah, wait and so the same hairdresser who is has has lunch with Teresa. Apparently she had lunch with her and she’s still doing Teresa’s hair like, well, Teresa also forgive forgave Kim D. That’s true. So it’s like ultimately Teresa is just she’s you are there to build a team. And so when she loses one team member, she’s got to go find somebody else. I mean, I feel like that whole little world is very small because there’s got to be other hairdressers. Like I don’t think I would ever let somebody back into my house after they you know accused me wrongfully or not of cheating. I don’t even care but you’re not simple minded and you’re not obtuse and you’re not a person who says okay, well I’m no longer with my husband so it doesn’t matter that she did that she right now can help me get at Danielle, which we’re trying we need a storyline. I don’t want it to be Louis. Jen doesn’t want it to be her and her husband so their storyline can be coming for Danielle. A lot of people bothered by GIA being there. Yeah, I mean, I don’t know I think is weird. I can’t put my finger on. Why though. I think it’s because we saw her as a baby. So it’s like weird. Yeah, but nobody cared when Lauren Manzo was sitting at the table. But then I guess we met her as an older teen, so it’s different. Yeah, I think it’s different. I don’t know. I liked you too. So that’s not why No, that’s not why because I actually
I really like her all I have to say and like I am gonna intend the pun here is Jackie we can read you like a book. Yeah. With what I mean it’s I just like it grosses me out seeing her do all of this stuff, just for just for screen time. Like she’s clearly just changing sides just so she can be on the show and that it just grosses me out. I mean, a lot of people have to worry about next year’s cast we have. We have something coming in that I didn’t even get a chance to post yet. That new girl Tiffany, who was a former jets dancer or cheerleader. Yeah, and they showed her family picture yeah, on the screen which got my like attention digging like, Oh, is she going to perhaps be a friend so we’re gonna see how this shakes out. But what I do know is that okay, so I’m going to read the email quick. Bravo is definitely putting jersey on a short pause like VPR they are always looking for new women and this year, especially for a couple years they’ve been eyeing the New York Jets coach Rob salacres wife, Santa seven kids huge house in Morristown, but she’s private producers are hoping they can convince her and that they can sell it as being less toxic. Tiffany will definitely be on next season. That’s why we’re seeing her in spurts. She used to be a Jets dancer still goes to games and is on the field Bravo’s hoping that she and Santa can be brought on together. That makes sense to me. Danielle wasn’t a huge hit. I think now we can expect her to either be demoted or gone next year. We’re told Jen Aiden is gone. I am told by several sources. I have a lot of Jersey sources that they’re just very pissed about her her behavior Bravo con all this Twitter stuff on and on and on. And people say people say how come Theresa can do it? And she can’t because Theresa is the star of the show. It’s a simple answer. Housewives and Bravo labs in general, this isn’t a union job. They don’t have to follow a contract and treat everyone the same. It can be as simple as they like somebody better than the other. Yeah, knowing what we know now I just I’m not. I’m not going to be sad to see Jen Go because I don’t want to I don’t want to see the manipulation. I don’t want to see the like how you know, how badly can we drag our costars through the mud? Messing with each other’s business? You know what, I’m gonna go a step further. Okay. Not every housewife is meant to be on the show for 10 years. Jen was interesting when she came on. She wasn’t an annoying person in some ways, but it was interesting to watch and get to know her and get to know especially her culture and her family and all her kids. Were good now. Now she’s having hairdressers come in to manufacture stuff. What storyline are we getting out of her after this unless her husband and I hope that this doesn’t happen? They see they seem happy and everything but unless her husband were to cheat on her or something like that, we’re done. We know about everything you can go. Same with Jackie. Like you can go Marge, on the other hand continues to be interesting. Teresa, on the other hand continues to be interesting. Melissa, on the other hand, people still want to watch. Not everybody needs a storyline, but some people do. And that’s okay. 100% agree, couldn’t and couldn’t have said it better. On that note, we love you guys heading into summer. I’m excited. Me too. I am ready for some Pool time. And
so a little less school activity. I’m ready for school and sports to be done for a while like I need to not have to run to practice every night. I still have lots of sports this summer, but at least not school. Yes, true, though. Next time, guys. Yeah, we appreciate you guys so much.
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