130. That time Amanda thought it was a date but it was an MLM lunch; RHOC friends or just allies? Keep the kids out of it; Southern Charm Trailer, RHONY

Is anyone else decorating for the holidays yet? Whitney Rose’s new company is an MLM and there’s allegedly been some shady business about their conference. Plus, Amanda’s story about when she thought she was being asked out on a date…but it was actually an MLM lunch. Traitors season 4 is currently casting – and we have news on when season 3 will air. Growing up in the 90s in Beverly Hills was wild. RHOC continues to be full of fighting and betrayal. Were Tamra and Shannon ever actually friends? Or was it an alliance the whole time? The Southern Charm trailer is out and the season looks juicy. Craig grew up in Never Neverland, and Austen is salty about it. JT gives us the ick. We have an update for you on the Naomie Olindo case. The RHOBH trailer also came out, and it looks like Dorit is bringing it, just as we’ve heard. And RHONY was great this week – the Clueless party was ICONIC. We share our favorite looks and what we’re hearing about the show ending filming early. 

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and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I’m B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tea.
What’s up? Cocktail ers, hello, Amanda, hi. B Hi. Cocktail ers, I gotta say it happy, unofficial start to the holidays. How I feel like is always the kickoff to it’s like the big holiday months and the Starbucks holiday cups come out the day after Halloween, usually. And that’s my girl, though, of course, there’s a Starbucks too that we go to, but I don’t love it. Yeah, I don’t know why I know that, I guess, and I don’t even know. And I actually am not even that much of a Starbucks person anymore. I used to be an almost daily and I was this is a ridiculous way to spend money, but I actually am thinking about starting to pull some of the Christmas stuff out this weekend to start thinking about decorating. No, we’ve been getting earlier, my husband and I and the kids every year, but I am not I could never do before Thanksgiving, so I always did it. I would say around December 5 to 10th. I know that’s late for people, but we keep it up because we usually go away, we go to Florida after Christmas, come back after New Year’s, and then we keep it up for little Christmas, which is January 6. But I feel we’re getting earlier and earlier. And the other thing is, as an adult, I realized that long weekend after Thanksgiving, it just makes sense to get it done, especially now that we don’t do a real trade. Do you real or do you do fake that? So I’ve always done weekend after Thanksgiving as well. We’re actually, this is gonna sound so crazy, but you have to remember that we have combined two households, so we, I think, are gonna do two trees. Oh, because I have a fake tree, and then we have a space that has a really tall ceiling that is begging for a tall real tree. And I love the smell. I love it too inside wreaths if we use the fake tree. So that’s why I was I wanted to start getting stuff out just to see what we need and what we want to get, and how we’re going to do all that. So I always do something real inside, too, whether it be a wreath or I always have poinsettias. My dad actually gets me poinsettias the day after Thanksgiving, my in laws get them, but I don’t really have a space for two unless I get it in my basement, which doesn’t make sense, yeah. And the thing is, I have to tell you, yes, it’s all fun and games as you’re drinking Prosecco and playing Mariah Carey and Michael Buble and decorating two trees.
But somebody’s gonna take those two trees down. Miss Amanda, no, I know, and it’s usually me. Yeah, I know, and that’s why I might as well do it. And who knows, I might end up just deciding I want, because it’s finally getting cold here. I might just decide I want to sit by the fire and nap and watch shows. Maybe nothing will get done. We’ll see. I also always loved the idea of doing one tree, which is the family tree, right? It’s all the ornaments we’ve collected from the kit that the kids made us. And whenever we go away, we always get an ornament, yeah, and then another tree that’s just pretty, whatever that looks like, whatever your favorite colors are. Some people do all golds and reds and like kind of thing, yeah. Kind of what we were thinking is making the fake tree, the one that has just some of the just pretty decor, because that one would be the one that you would see when you walk in our front door. And then the big, tall natural tree, I think, would be the one that has all of our personal ornaments. But I’m trying to remember, if it was Don’t get mad cocktail. I’m not even going to name a name, because I don’t want to get it wrong. Do you remember the picture I sent you last year of the cocktail on Discord who had a pink fuzzy tree with all housewife ornaments on it last year? Yes, that was incredible. I love that. Maybe I’ll do one of those. If I had the space for a second, I would get a flock. But I spent too much money on my artificial tree to give into that yet. And I don’t know if my husband would be on board for a flock unless it was a second tree somewhere. I love a flock. I love it, but I feel he’s more traditional and will shoot me down with that. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. But yeah, I might have to copy that cocktail or get a cute, little, tiny pink tree for my for the office, my kids do little trees in their room. Yes, they like to favorite trees. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, way too early to be talking holiday content. It’s just that’s always, I feel Halloween is always the kickoff to the crazy dime. Okay, so guys, we did not really talk Salt Lake City last week because we had so much other tea. I also just wanted to mention something we’re going to try to start doing more Bea and I have notes on the podcast, and this week we have, I’m going to say at least that I know of, because we pull stuff out of the hat all the time, at least two pieces of exclusive tea on this week’s podcast, it’ll probably end up being more but I feel sometimes we share it, and then we’re not good about telling people, Hey, this is exclusive to this podcast, and we always have it in there. So just wanted to start telling you what to expect. So anyway, we wanted to catch up on Salt Lake City, because it’s been so good. And so today we’re actually recording on Wednesday, because tomorrow is Halloween, so we won’t have seen the most recent episode as of when you’re hearing this, but couple of things happening in Salt Lake City that we wanted to chat about. So a couple months ago we posted that Whitney wrote, Whitney Wild Rose, her wellness company that she rebranded to call soul, s, o l was an MLM. So then we got a note from someone who lives in Salt Lake City, and it said, Why are none of the Bravo accounts talking about Whitney rose during turning her existing skincare line into an MLM she posted on the show that her husband lost his job because of the show, and all along, Justin’s career has been in the MLM industry. There’s a video of her presenting her new company soul, and it’s so cringe. She sounds like she’s brand new to her own brand that she’s had now for a few years. So that is what the person wrote in, I actually was just doing a little googling before we got on it. Actually it was announced in direct sales, or direct sell sales, some direct selling newsletter that this was launched in June. And as part of that, the people who are selling soul, which is this lifestyle brand, have exclusive access to Wild Rose beauty, the skincare, so they can also sell that. So now, if you like Wild Rose, you can only get it through Whitney’s MLM. I think I know the answer this. You’ve never been involved with an MLM, have you? I used to buy Rodan and Fields, yes. Yes. So I did something where I had, I could sell it, but I did it. I just did it so that I got the discount, or whatever. That makes sense. So I wasn’t, I never actually did it. But they were like, Okay, you’re buying all this stuff anyway. So if you get the quote, unquote starter package, then going forward, I was gonna pay however much less or whatever it was. This is years ago. I’m saying nine years ago. I like their skincare products, but as time went to me, it was very expensive, and so I started trying other skin products, which I was, oh, this works just as well, stuff that my injector recommended, and whatever. So I’m not saying I think their products are good.
Dude, I don’t even think they, if I understand correctly, because some people that I’m friends with on Facebook, it sounds like they went away from that model, and they don’t. There is no more exact anymore, like you just buy beauty counter went away together. You know, I’ve had good experiences. I both never sold them or or done anything like that. I feel there are some really great, legit product lines like Rodan and Fields, I think is a great one, but a lot of them get a shady wrap because of other shady players, like LuLaRoe, totally. And this is my thing. What I think we spoke about this one time, the something, Chef, Pampered Chef, their products and also, everything changes right now, a lot of the Pampered Chef type products you could easily get online, but even going back to when I was first married in low eight I remember I went to a Pampered Chef party with my mom’s friends, and I got really cute stuff that I used for years. I’m sure I still have a couple of things, and Amazon wasn’t as accessible as it is now. It wasn’t overnight shipping and all this kind of stuff. So to me, if the product is good, I’m all for going to my friend’s house, having a glass of wine and buying a piece of I love costume jewelry. I did some of those parties. I liked it because it’s I like anything social. And hey, if my friend’s gonna make a couple bucks or get a couple free products for hosting or whatever it is, that’s cool with me. So I have nothing at all against it. I don’t like, of course, that they promise. Oh, you’ll, you’ll be driving a pink Cadillac like Mary Kay. I’ve seen one pink Cadillac in my life. Mary Kay, back in the day, my mother used to buy it. I remember you using their lotions and stuff. Certainly, Avon, I grew up wearing Avon makeup, and they had the best bug spray. My sister in law somehow still gets it. I don’t know how. Oh, skin so soft. I love that stuff. It’s and it keeps the bugs away. So I have absolutely nothing against MLM. I don’t like promising people like come under me and because only the people at the top who get a lot of the people under them ever really make money, but if you’re doing it because you like the product, and so I did it, I liked the product, and it gave me a discount, so it made sense I wasn’t looking to make a career out of it. Did I ever tell you the story about when I was in my 20s, and it was a guy that I like, worked with. I didn’t really know him very well. He asked me out for lunch, and I thought he was asking me out for a date, and it was actually an Amway.
Wait, Were those the knives? Did he try to sell you a Kni Amway?
Amway, I think, sold everything from vitamins to soap and all kinds of Wait. Did you have a crush on him or No, I just honestly, I was in one of those times where I wasn’t really dating anybody, and feeling like I needed to do something different. So it was okay, whatever this guy is totally not my jam. But I should say yes.
Oh my, Amanda, you have never told me this, yeah, it took me a while because, oh my gosh, it’s it took me about when you did you buy anything? No, because I was, what the Holland I’m in my 20 No, what? No, because you also had to sign up on, I feel like, if I get on these people’s lists, I’m never getting off. But it was the weirdest. It was the weirdest thing. So it took me a couple minutes be like, Oh my god, this is not a date. This is not a date. Actually, he’s trying to make money off of me, and I’m, did he freaking go Dutch with you too? I don’t, gosh, you know what? That is, a detail that I really should remember and at least have prepared and to make the story better. But I honestly don’t remember. I probably did go Dutch, because that’s, I have to venture to say, if he’s trying to hawk stuff to you at lunch, he’s not paying for lunch and letting me think he’s asking me on a date, that’s that was the shady part. Who does that? Well, I want to talk to you about a business opportunity, I think you hit the nail on the head. I think there’s always this underlying sense of shade. And when I heard this, Whitney and her husband have always had a grifter way about them. So when these tick tocks have been popping up about an employee or employees of her sole wellness company, I was not at all surprised, because we said this was an MLM months ago, and it never really got much traction, because there is, it’s not illegal to have an MLM. It’s just weird that she never said it when she introduced her company. So we got an email that said the housewife currently defending her business this season has another company that’s having a rough time. Her skincare wellness company has been reported by a former employee, and then in parentheses as so multiple, as a pyramid scheme, the employee alleges she has now been sent a cease and desist by the housewife. The basics, according to the former employee, are that she was asked to speak in an event for the company, but had to pay her own flight, hotel, etc, plus 100
$29 tickets to the conference. All employees pay their own way to this conference, which was then canceled. When they canceled the conference last minute, they offered a free event, but no one was ever inverse reimbursed for the cost of the tickets. This couple has always worked in MLM. They met at an MLM. The husband was the CEO of this company. He’s been working for MLMs for over 20 years. You can be certain that this will be brought up at the reunion. So that’s the piece of it. So it’s like making your quote, unquote employees pay their own way, which, again, obviously no one is making you do that. People are agreeing to that, but then you’re charging them $129
and then the conference doesn’t exist. That is, just listen, could it be an honest error, sure, but do I think it is? No, I don’t even know if that is. Is that an established process? I used to see on social media, people going to whichever beach bodies and conferences, and they would always go to these beautiful places and stay at these beautiful resorts. Do you remember beach body? I did use that? Actually, I did too. It was actually a great product, but some of their top sellers, who happened to be people I knew and I was Facebook friends with, got paid vacations to like Mexico, okay, because the company paid them to go, because I always wanted that if they had to pay their own way, or if the company paid, but you’re talking a dozen people get paid trips, and those dozen people had, like, hundreds of people under them, and again, and that’s an example of something that’s okay, in my opinion, because if Amanda is a friend of mine, and she reaches out and she’s, hey, I’m doing this weight loss program, you can join for free, just for recipes and stuff, and then throughout the course of that, she’s, I’m using this Beachbody workout program. You can buy the DVD, because this is going back to the DVD days, and then they did go to on demand. And you can buy the shakes. If I’m, oh yeah, I want to do that workout and I want to do those shakes. That’s my choice. And also, I have to say the workouts were great, especially I remember when I had my son, I was home and he was an infant, so from and my friends at the time, we were all in that boat, and it was great for us. And on Facebook, she had a group, and we would all post our recipes, and we would drink the shakes, and there’s no harm in that at all. And so she made money off of us. Good for her. We were all working the program, as they say, and it was working for us. Yeah, absolutely.
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But where are we all? Oh my gosh. Okay, so let’s talk about more about the party and everything that happened in that episode, because Justin and John So Whitney and Lisa start to fight. Lisa freaks out. Justin gets involved. Justin and John almost go to blows. It was definitely Cecelia word, messy.
Lisa running over to John, I mean, running over to Justin and shouting. She was at a 10. She was at a 10. She called her. Did she call her cyber person? Yes, first, or did she go over? I can’t remember the order the way we saw it. She called the tech person first, and Whitney looks like, flabbergasted, yeah, going the distance. Going, I’m going the distance. I did you like the meme I made for you? I loved it. I made a meme of Lisa doing it. We’re going the distance on this one, and it’s like me calling Amanda with information that she’s gonna Deep Dive. Listen, I love Lisa. The thing about Lisa, she’s not producing, she is really that hysterical and delusional that she will enlist a security a cyber security legal team. What it comes down to, and apparently now the blogger is saying that the conversation was spliced. He never said to Whitney that Lisa said it, whatever. Even if he said it, Whitney is going off nothing. She clearly is trying to make it was or Okay. Her jewelry was outed as being from Alibaba. So once you’re outed, I feel like she was gonna milk that storyline for old to Earth. Yeah, because there was also talk that her And Justin’s marriage wasn’t doing well, I never bought that either. I think that’s all storyline for Whitney, her and her husband just strike me as two Grifters they always have. And yes, Lisa was out of control running over to Justin and John, but then Justin like getting aggressive with John was very it was just surprising. And you’re in Angie’s home and your wife is accusing Lisa of doing something. So it isn’t like Lisa’s Whitney initiated it. Whitney could have and should have taken Lisa out to lunch. She did Meredith and told her, but she instead decided to do it in an atmosphere of a party, where I’m sure Lisa had a couple cocktails. The husbands were there, so Whitney cannot throw the match and then be like, I can’t believe Lisa ran over. What did she expect Justin to do? If you know that Justin’s gonna act like that, why are you doing it at a party? What a goat rodeo That party was with the Osmond guy showing up. Oh, that is so good. It was also good. We’ve been hearing from a lot of people that Mary’s son, Robert, clearly seemed to be under the influence in that last episode. And I know you and I have talked about it separately, and definitely feel like there is something off. It would very much explain how he seems just so detached and just out of it. He just he did last season, too. And I know we’re both really hoping he’s doing okay. Yeah, he clearly seems high. We did hear that he was in treatment over the summer. I hope he received the help he needs. It’s hard listen. I get the sense that Mary really needs to be loving her on the show, but I also get the sense that the church is no longer she needs to be on the show, obviously, for the check her husband, she.
Hasn’t brought up that they’re separated, and we have a blind that says that she’s got a sugar baby, and he’s got a sugar baby. She’s a sugar mama. He’s got it. She’s got a hot, young side piece. And apparently Robert’s out doing his thing, which is totally fine. So I guess she’s got to show her son, because otherwise it’s just her. I feel like one of the biggest eye mysteries in Bravo world, to me, would be, who? What kind, what dude does Mary go for given if she is just seeing what the guy looks like and what they sound like, I have money. That’s not I’m not wondering about the looks. I’m wondering about what they smell like. What cologne do they wear? Because Mary is very sensitive to smells. So ever he identify with Mary on that I have a super scent. I get so grossed out so often by weird sense that other people can barely smell mine. I understand that my niece has the most sensitive nose ever. If I’m cooking something different or whatever, she will walk in my house and she’ll be what’s that smell? What’s that so I people, but she, whoever she’s with, definitely smells good. I can’t guess what he looks like, but he smells good. Oh, then somebody else was telling me that in my DMs, that Britney is D list, Osmond, on and off again, boyfriend, apparently, the word in Salt Lake City is that he pays for sexual favors. I don’t know what that means. I don’t know if that means sex worker. I don’t know if that means he picks up some women’s daddy, yeah, like purses for Yeah, exactly, I exactly, and I don’t know if he’s like in a strip club. I don’t know what the what is, but he pays sexual favors, and he’s just known to be number one of fame horror, right? Because he’s got that Osmond last name and trash. Hey, it’s Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons, Vons and pavilions. Now through July 15, stock up on all your favorite personal care brands and earn four times points to use on later purchases for discounts on groceries or gas shop in store or online for items like Pantene shampoo, Old Spice, total body deodorant, Tampax, Pearl, Venus, razors, head and shoulder shampoo, Olay, body wash and Pantene conditioner. And earn four times points hurry before these deals are gone. Off rents, July 15, restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons Vons or pavilions.com for more details. Are dry eye symptoms frequently interrupting your day. Keep dry eyes off your schedule with refresh relief of PF extra lubricant eye drops, offering an advanced formula to soothe and hydrate your eyes with innovative hydrocell technology to lock in moisture and prevent further irritation. Refresh, relief of PF extra gives you lasting relief equipped with a soft squeeze, multi dose bottle featuring a double lockout system that keeps drops sterile so you can feel confident using it. Refresh has been delivering relief from dry eye symptoms for 35 years. It’s a track record of success that has earned the trust of physicians and patients alike. You Deserve relief from your dry eye symptoms and your eyes deserve extra find refresh online or in the eye drop section at all major retailers, FSA and HSA eligible managing a chronic condition just out of the hospital or struggling to prepare meals on your own. If you or a loved one are on Medi Cal you may qualify for free home delivered meals through California’s Community Supports Program, moms meals provides nutritious, medically tailored meals made by dietitians, delivered right to your home. See if you or your loved one qualify at momsmeals.com/california.
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Again, I don’t, and I know you don’t either. Neither of us have issues with people who I don’t know what the right word is, engage sex workers. You’re on, you’re on the show somebody’s boyfriend. Yeah, it’s gross. It’s that’s That is cheating, exactly. And I just watch him, he just seems oppressed. Maybe it would just be better if he embraced his sexual side instead of trying to keep up the holier than thou Mormon act and calling his girlfriend his quote, unquote best friend, because he’s so worried about what people will think that is just weird. The whole best friend thing is weird. It’s strange, it’s strange. But I think that he probably, I’m getting, I’m betting he had a lot of best friends.
So traders four, we’re hearing, is in the middle of casting right now. They’re filming in January, which not they usually filmed in the fall, but, or did they already film this year, and they’re filming on a faster schedule. Traders three is filmed wrapped. That’s the one with Dolores and.
Yeah, I’m trying to think of who else I don’t I’m so bad with the schedules, I always have to look back at posts and stuff, because that’s just summer that they did. Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, I think it, honestly, I don’t remember, but it should be airing late February, early March, which is a little late traders three, that is so I’m interested to see. And you guys know, we have a very good source for traders casting every year we end up getting it, so I’m hopeful we will again. I’ll leave it there. It’s so in demand. Every reality star has their team working overtime to get them on, because it’s good money. It’s high viewership. People who have gone on it have had such success in other areas afterwards. Look at Phaedra, although CT is, unfortunately, doing porn, which we spoke about to be speaking about that on the main pod, or do we did? I don’t remember cocktail talked about it last week. He’s dating an only fan star. He’s very in love with her. If this, if this was spoken about on cocktails, just tell you guys quickly, because I don’t want to leave you hanging. She charged $200
to her only fans following To watch a video of her in CT. Turns out the video was a POV, and you only hear him grunting. You don’t see him at all. Yeah, wow. So I can’t wait for traders. I really hope it comes on sooner. It’s such a great one to watch with kids too. So MJ, who was on the second season of traders, so funny. There was a clip circulating from back in the day on Shaz, where she randomly brings up the fact that she went to high school with both Monica Lewinsky and the Menendez brothers. And I think we spoke about this on Zoom. So all roads lead to Bravo, but she’s basically Oh yeah. And the Menendez brothers, oh yeah. Oh, that’s bad. What happened with them? Oh, those poor parents. Oh, those poor boys. One of them was really good at tennis. Can you imagine growing up in Beverly Hills in the 90s? It must have been wild. All the roads, right? The whole OJ thing, the Kardashians coming up. The Menendez brothers, Monica Lewinsky and MJ and Reza are just in the mix of all this
hilarious, hilarious. So we should move on to OC. There’s been a bunch of chatter about it on Discord, and there’s been a bunch of stuff coming up, cocktails. You guys knew this was gonna happen. But on the latest episode, Tamara brings up the rumor about Gina pushing or throwing something Travis her boyfriend down the stairs, which we had gotten also from a source, not from an email, that this is the reason they don’t live together and that she doesn’t drink anymore. So a few blogs or accounts picked up the story at the time, but it was not a widely picked up story, and I think it was. It might have been even two years ago. It was quite a while ago. I’m sure that Gina was really hoping it wouldn’t come up on camera because it hadn’t before, and was hoping that she was safe. But once again, Tamara picks it up and, of course, blames it on Shannon, and I find it absolutely gross, because it involves children. Can you imagine, if somebody else shared a similar story involving her and her children, she would lose her mind. So here’s the thing. We did, hear this from a source, but this is the it. What we don’t know is it because his ex is crazy, as Gina says, and Gina wanted to separate her kids from it. So what I mean is, did the ex make it up? Or if something did, in fact, happen back when Gina was drinking, because the person who shared it said they were told it all goes together around the time Gina quit drinking, or is the truth somewhere in the middle is the truth that Gina and Travis had a big screaming match, and the kids were startled, and the ex made it into something it wasn’t. And Gina, in some way, does assume guilt because of her drinking sort of thing. So what the person had said, This guy’s, this is a cocktails and gossip exclusive. It seems both Tamara and Shannon were looking into the Gina situation, and my gut tells me something went down, because the ex wife has been crazy. So what changed to get Gina and Travis to not live together, but at the same time, Gina is thriving. She’s sober, she admits she had to stop drinking. So yeah, Tamara’s a POS
for bringing it up. Shannon’s a jerk for investigating it or wanting to ask Taylor’s husband. I think this really shows there was not a friendship. So the crux of it is this, what we’re learning as Shannon exposed Tamara’s texts about investigating Jen pedantry fiance Ryan, and then Tamara turns around and brings up this old story about Gina and Travis that had never been brought to light. What we’re seeing is that when Tamara and Shannon came back.
Together. It wasn’t a friendship, it was an alliance. Yeah. And the other reality is, if you want to stay on the show, production has to like you. If I’m the producer, I want good storylines being brought up on camera. If this is happening in Gina’s life, production will love whoever brings it to the show, Tamara will do anything to stay on the show. So in that scene where, prior to this being brought up, Gina says to her, like Tamara, if you’d bring this up, you’d turn on anyone like about her investigating Ryan, Gina, don’t be so naive. Of course. She do it to you, and flash to a day later, she is doing it to you, or even later that day, right? And listen, Shannon can say that her and Gina weren’t friends, but Shannon was never nice to Gina. And if you remember you and I and the fans, the followers, at the beginning of the season, we all said, wow, Gina’s so incredible. She’s treating Shannon so kindly, considering how poorly Shannon treated her when Gina had her DUI after this. I think that Gina is not gonna have any sympathy for Shannon. I don’t think if I were Gina, I would ever forgive this is a big loss for Jan and because with Gina goes Emily, and Emily hasn’t been going as hard for her, but they really have had her back throughout this. To me, there is the question, goes, to be okay, Shannon, did you take it any further once Taylor, her husband, said, I don’t do this kind of thing, did you find the information from somebody else I would want to, want to know, because it could have been here. I am defend. I’m not defending Shannon, because it’s gross. What she’s what she suggested doing, but it sounded like that was almost the modus operandi of how Shannon and Tamara behaved, and that they encouraged this. To your point, from an alliance standpoint, they encouraged this. Let’s get the dirt on everybody. Should we need it? Should we need it. Should we need it? So I would be curious to know if anything else came from that, or if maybe Shannon thought better of it to be, you know what? No, I don’t want to pile on top of Gina. She’s had lots of stuff on her plate. She’s going through a divorce. She went through a domestic abuse situation. She got a DUI Travis’s ex, whether or not she had anything to do with the origin of the story, sounds like a nightmare. Who knows, but I will say I stand firm on this. Anything involving kids really should be off topic when it comes to things that are said, especially on the show on camera, this, I want to say Gina should have got ahead of it, but I feel Gina did get ahead of it by showing her separating homes with Travis and saying there are legal issues. His divorce is really contentious. Everything she had made true, right? It made me don’t, you know, because you I don’t think it’s true, because Gina is a pretty honest person, and I think that if there’s a part of it that’s true, it’s that when Gina was drinking, perhaps she got loud yelling, which is obviously not the same as hitting. But if Travis’s children went back to the wife and said, Oh, they were fighting, and I was scared. The mother can do with that what she will. It doesn’t mean that Gina pushed Travis down the stairs, but she may, in a court of law, have cause to say it’s not the healthiest environment. Yeah, exactly. I just think anything involving custody is a matter that should not that should be handled privately, should not be discussed. Both Tamara and Shannon should have some sympathy for that, since they both went through that. No kidding, but I will also say I think Katie is really gross for the storyline about Emily’s kids saying that Heather is mean. I don’t think that’s cool. I think that’s insane that she would pull two little kids into this, but then she also pulled her, I know her daughter is technically an adult, that she pulled her daughter into this. I really think that no matter what happened, not a word should have been said about either of these things. Honestly, I find it embarrassing, and I was really starting to like Katie, but yeah, when I heard that, I was girl, if that’s the best you got that you’re going to use Emily’s twins, who I believe are under 10, eight or nine years old, okay, eight on the show. Yeah, that is little if you are going to go off the and not only that, it isn’t like you were filming an event at Emily’s house and your daughter was your plus one, and the boy said it, and your daughter heard it. Emily and Shane entrusted you to babysit their children off camera, yeah, and this is what you do. It is so nasty that shows me who Katie is. If Katie ever has anything juicy, she will go with it. Because.
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And I do start to feel maybe what Heather has been talking about, where everyone’s trying to find a reason to go after her, maybe there’s something there, because I do feel it is starting to we’re starting to see evidence of that, but, and I remember I had blinds way back when they were filming, when she first joined the cast, and they said Things like, her whole story with her ex was suspect and all this kind of stuff, she paints him like to be wholly the bad guy, but really, let’s not forget, one of the children stays with him, so it’s very similar to Tamara, right? Yeah, I think that Katie is doing a good job of painting like she’s the perfect little friend and wife and mother, but there’s a lot of cracks in that. Yeah, and I’m sorry if one of your kids doesn’t speak to you that’s antennas up. Get ready for season two, Katie, because it’s coming. Yeah, Salt Lake or not, Salt Lake City. Southern charm. The trailer dropped this week. I first wanted to just say that we send our love to Michael calcourse, who is Patricia’s Butler, and to his family, who we lost this week. He sadly passed away. He was a beautiful soul and will be very much missed. So sad, so sad. The entire Bravo community mourns with Patricia and Whitney and the cast of southern charm. It’s, it’s always when you have a person who is just a common beloved amongst everybody, I can’t think of a more beloved actually, when you were saying that, I can’t think of a more beloved. Bravo person I know I think of like Audrey’s marge’s. I want to call her her assistant, because she’s Mar Laney Marlene. There are the like Zoila on. Jeff Lewis, there are these people. Obviously, all of their personalities are different from Michael’s, but there’s somebody who comes on, and even if the housewives are fighting or the cast, I should say, because southern charm is in a housewife Show, everybody can walk in the house and chat with Michael or Zoila or Marlene. So it’s just that neutral, lovable character. Yeah, on the trailer, a lot of seems like it’s going to be a juicier season than people were thinking, because we see first the
tensions which we had.
Been talking about quite a while ago, that between Craig and Austin. So we see that first, it looks like Craig is basically saying to Austin what I think it is. I think Austin talks shit to mutual friends behind Craig’s back, such as we heard him say something like, oh, he thinks if he drinks on he drinks, he’s gonna ruin his whole business. I think Austin is pissed, because Craig has calmed it down. We know that he said on summer house he no longer drinks hard liquor. I think he sticks to beer and wine. And I think that Craig, he got back to Craig, and I think Craig is like, listen, I get it. It’s not you. You didn’t say that. I hurt your puppy and I forgive you, but we just won’t be as close, because you’re putting me in a poor light behind my back, and it changes our friendship. And we can see that Austin had a bad reaction to that. Listen. Friendships change, especially as you get older, when one person is single and one is in a dynamic relationship. Dynamic shift when somebody gets a different job. Sometimes it can change the dynamic of a relationship. When people are in their early 20s and they’re in school, right? Like when Craig and Austin met, Craig was in law school. He was a student who worked part time, and they partied and all this stuff, and now he has a lot of businesses. He’s an investor. He needs a clear mind. He can’t wake up hung over. He can’t go drink at the bar whenever he wants in the middle of the afternoon. And I’m not saying Austin does that. I’m just saying it appears that Craig does that a lot less than say Austin and Shep are able to so their relationship has changed in the land, never land where the men don’t grow up. Craig has grown up, and Austin, I think, feels, it’s probably feels, because Austin feels like he’s feeling left behind, is my guess, and I get it. I don’t blame Craig one bit for not wanting to get shit faced on camera anymore, because he has so much more to lose, and it’s especially not a good look for someone who’s a practicing attorney to be doing that, and we see Paige say Austin and Shep just are foaming at the mouth to say that you’ve completely changed because of me. And I don’t believe that’s true. I think that Paige has been a positive influence on Craig, but I think it’s also a matter of a person gets to a point in their life where they want there’s a reason Craig is choosing to be with Paige because he wants to be in an adult relationship, and he wants to live a more responsible life. If he wanted what Austin and Shep want him to have, he’d have that, and he wouldn’t have a steady girlfriend, and all of those things I did love when Austin says you’re an embellisher, and Craig, clearly inebriated, says, I’m a lawyer and a storyteller,
where’s the merch we need? The merch I know seriously, Craig, you got to get that on a pillow. The storyline that we can all see right through is in this trailer, is Vanita and JT talking about if they’re attracted to each other, I gotta say our chemistry is about as non existent as that first bag of Halloween candy that I bought to give out to kids, but has already been eaten and were a couple days before Halloween.
Okay, don’t you agree? It just seems silly. So without knowing anything watching that it was a really bad soap opera scene where they were both acting. First of all, JT was dating someone. He called his girlfriend. Now I hear Vanita was in on it. At first, I was to be fair, she had, what I know, which most viewers probably don’t know yet, is she had recently split from her long term boyfriend. What I hear is he didn’t want to do long distance anymore. So Jake, we love we love a Will they won’t they story? Well, I have to believe it, that’s the thing. And I get I could see the need to be, listen, you’re on a show, and you broke up with your boyfriend, so you recently broke up. So your options are to sit there and wallow in the breakup. Which who wants to do that and give your ex the satisfaction of watching you wallow in the breakup? Right? Whether you’re putting it on more for the show so you have a storyline, or you really feel that way, your ex is going to look at it like, oh, look, she still wants me. I think if I were her, a better alternative would be to pretend I was into him. The thing about it is I feel like Vanita is too real of a person, so it’s just going to be so see through I hear it’s at the end of the season, so I don’t know how much of it we’re going to have to see, but JT I just hear the worst things about him, and I wish there were a better option for Vanita to play house with. I agree, because I look at him and my stomach turns. There’s just something about me that goes the biggest sick Yes. So we have Sally, who is new on this show. We, most of us, will probably recognize her, because she was also on southern hospitality. She went on a date with Joe Bradley, and then TJ told.
Joe that Sally had been making out with his roommate the night before the date or right the day of the date. But funny enough, we know that Gaston is now dating Taylor. What a small little circle they run in. So there’s probably going to be some drama between Taylor and Sally, I’m guessing. I think we see that in the preview? Yeah, I like that. She’ll have drama with Taylor. It’ll make the season spicy. I’m still miffed with Taylor, because I just feel like she was such a Girl Scout, and it went so left with the whole Olivia thing, who, by the way, I don’t think we congratulated. Olivia is engaged. Oh, I know beautiful van looks to be living a beautiful, fabulous life, yes. So he had her parents, Sarah as part of the yeah in New York, that is. And then we got back to, I forget if it was Charleston or Houston, he had her parents meet them there with his family, and threw her another surprise party at the fancy restaurant. So amazing, so amazing. Happy for her another newbie, Molly. She happened to be a charter guest on below deck. She hooked up with the Boson Ashton. Remember Ashton?
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So in Miami, Lenny had his infamous Halloween ball last weekend. I follow the Instagram account. I find a lot of entertainment from that. And the women all wear pretty much nothing as a quote, unquote costume, and the men wear whatever the fuck they want.
I just so, yeah, so days before that, we heard, in light of freak offs, maybe we could have paused this year, but I digress. Maybe they really just look and don’t touch, but I somehow did ice.
Whatever it’s, it’s, feels like it’s, you know, a sugar baby and sugar daddy Meetup is, and again, nothing wrong with that, but money just seems to be Lenny has been doing this since he was married.
So we heard from a former friend of the mistress, who wanted it to be anonymous, said
Miami’s the Miami ex’s mistress. Oh, no. She didn’t care. She didn’t care. But she’s not somebody we would know. Um, but yeah, no, she was like. She was like, I don’t care if you do say my name, yeah. Oh, wonderful. I don’t remember her name honestly, but No, she doesn’t care.
So she said, This mistress is absolutely disgusting and disgraceful. I was her friend in the beginning, until I real realized her true colors. She blocked me from his account. I saw him a week ago when they are broken up due to her cheating, and he was so nice and loving towards me. She is seriously evil. It’s sick the power she has over him. I feel so sorry for Lisa. The Mistress said terrible things about not only Lisa, but his kids too. How convenient that this person who now has been burned by the mistress, slash fiance and Lenny, now feels bad for Lisa. You didn’t How did you not know that this that the mistress was breaking up a marriage, but whatever they’re seemingly back together, she was sending she’s blocking people that when she cheated on Lenny and they were broken up
this Lenny reached out to this friend, so I’m sure her and Katharina, the friend, don’t talk, because the friends in Miami, The mistress is in Europe. So the friend was probably getting invited out with Lenny and all his friends. You know how it goes. So she turned on the mistress, whatever him and the mistress are back together. So the power she has over him is what when she came back from Europe, Lenny went back to her instead of hanging out with you and your friends like it’s so stupid. This will be over by November 1 yesterday. Yes, I think she would probably literally, Catherine Owens, probably, oh, I should probably go go to the party and take some pictures so I can promote my only fans. Yes, that’s actually okay here. It makes sense, right? Because then she can get it’s a whole different
backdrop for only fans content. So we know that Miami’s in full swing with filming. Gertie and Julia have unfollowed each other after the fight where we heard that Julia threw the drink at Gertie. I’m really wondering how this is going to affect the dynamics, because Julia, while closest with Adriana, was also close with Nicole and Gertie, because they were the newbies. Remember a couple of seasons ago, we know Nicole obviously is not on this season. So where does this leave Gertie and Adriana, as we know, Adriana writes for Julia. How does this affect Alexia and Marisol? It seems like Gertie might be on somewhat of an island of her own. Since the newbie, Stephanie is Anthony’s ex, it’s doubtful Gertie will bond with Nicole’s fiance’s ex. We know Gertie and Larsa. There’s no love lost between them. Kiki and Gertie are okay, yeah, Gertie and Alexia did seem to have a moment last season. Maybe Gertie jump sides because Nicole isn’t around to keep the peace, and Larson or, like, we know Alexia really had it out for Nicole. So maybe with Nicole not being there, she warms up to Gertie. Yeah, that could be then Larsa. If anybody’s on, I think it’s Larsa, because Larsa doesn’t seem to be close with anybody, and doesn’t even treat the people who she, quote, unquote, is closest with. She doesn’t treat those very well. She was awful to Lisa last season. Yeah, okay, I can’t wait. Beverly Hills, we finally saw the trailer. We know jury brings it. We hear it’s truly her season, her blowout with Kyle seems years in the making. People keep asking if I think it’s true that dorit and Mauricio hooked up. I have always said I’ve never received proof of this. I personally don’t believe it. I do find it odd though, that we see someone I forget, who maybe Garcelle tell ourselves, talks about it, yeah, and the other ladies that, yeah, that Kyle texts with PK a lot. Listen, they were friends as couples. Clearly, Dorit and Kyle are not currently close, which makes it worse. I’m not saying you need to talk bad about PK, but you’re not close with Dorit, so texting with PK when they’re split seems really icky, and I don’t think Kyle would appreciate it if dorit was texting with Mauricio. I don’t know if they are, aren’t I just think I hear it really is good this season. Yeah, absolutely Kyle would not be having that. I just have to wonder if there could be more to the.
Story about PK texting Kyle. Maybe PK is somehow texting Kyle in a misguided attempt to get her help smoothing things over, or even getting dorit back. I want to preserve judgment on this one until we hear more, because if it is really just PK and Kyle being really friendly, then I would not blame dorit to be like, let’s go, let’s jump in the ring, because I wouldn’t blame her for freaking out. So that’s not just lack of loyalty that feels like betrayal. Did you see, by the way, the picture floating around on Instagram last week of Kyle, she’s standing next to the bed of a truck at what looks like a tailgate. There’s like a bar set up on the tailgate of the truck. But if you zoom in, you can see Morgan Wade hiding in the bed of the truck. I don’t know if you’ve seen it and it it’s what is that about when they have so openly shared their friendship and their relationship, whatever you want to call it, on social media. Why? Why now would Morgan hide unless they did that on purpose, knowing that people would zoom in and talk about it. I’m over it, and it’s none of our business, except it is because you’re on a reality show. So maybe, since she didn’t talk about being with Morgan, she’s trying to hide it, this cat and mouse thing. We’re like, into the second year of it, and I’m over it. I agree. I agree. If you really were in love, and if they really were together, they wouldn’t be hiding each other. So something is very weird and fishy. And if they’re just friends and wanting us to think something, we don’t care. We’re done caring. Not Kyle once, it was interesting at first. Yeah, I agree. So Roni, we keep running out of time to talk about but I thought this last episode was so good. Let’s talk. I mean, there’s so much I think. The scene with Psy having her aunt and then her husband and kids helping bury her some of her mom’s ashes with a tree at her home upstate, I loved that we saw real emotions, but they also ended up laughing at the end. That felt about like the realest thing I’ve seen from her. And I feel like sometimes Cy just has a zip on her human suit. Yeah, she doesn’t show her soft side much. The scene really helped us see that her upstate house was gorgeous. I have to tell you, I’m okay. We’ve been to Erin’s, Hampton’s house twice. Why haven’t we been to size house for a trip? I think she said she doesn’t want that energy in her house. Yeah. But production can push it. Come on. We love a good upstate house. Hello bluestone Manor. Yeah, I know it really is beautiful. I love dressels party. I love the theme clueless. I’m so sick of people asking me if I like New York, I love New York. I saw a meme that said, if you’re looking for Old School New York, watch Salt Lake City. Roni reboot is more like Beverly Hills. And for some reason it just makes sense. That Clicks. This was camp. I thought it was cute. I was so impressed with so many of their outfits. How they even do this? Obviously, they all know people to call, because you can’t just go to a store and find it. No, I think this party was iconic. I loved the ladies. Really went for it. Jessel going with four outfits. I think, I think she is a little bit in outer space. Brynn’s Dion outfit with the hat. That was probably my favorite. I really loved Jenna dressing up as the dad, although it did start to annoy me how committed she was with the bit, with the cell phone, because she then started awkwardly using it as a crutch to avoid getting Yes, Mama, I think it was almost like a mask. Yeah, she was hiding like we still see you, yeah, but Aaron’s her share outfit with the great sweater vest. And then Jessel, who none of her outfits were exact, but I liked that they were all inspired, right? The red dress with the BOA from the date night from the movie. What was your favorite? Oh, God, I thought was looked. She looked just like Dion, yeah. So I loved that one. I loved the gray one. I really liked Jenna’s too. I thought it was very funny and smart. The only one I didn’t like was freaking Rebecca Minkoff. I agree with whoever said, What is she doing? She what was it? Yeah, I didn’t What was it? Was it? It looked like somebody who worked in Manhattan in the mid 90s. Yeah. No, I didn’t get it either. So Aaron, so the fighting is starting again. Aaron, let me think here. Let me go back up Brynn before, when they’re going shopping, before the party is talking to Jessel and Aaron and goes in on site, calls her a troll that lives under the Brooklyn bridge. Bridge. Super mean, super mean. And then Aaron really took a turn when she and seemed very legitimately surprised that she had heard that Cy and Jenna had lunch and are becoming closer friends. I think Aaron has a good point that what the heck with Jenna letting Psy kind of in to her.
Back into her circle after she heard that Cy told quote, unquote, all over New York that she doesn’t like Jenna, but also really fake of Jenna, to allow this, I think back to your point from last week, the ladies are starting to turn on, Jenna, I but I didn’t like the way Erin was so firm about it and then folded so quick with Jenna. I thought it was week of Erin, if you say it, if you say something, then don’t be like, Oh, you just don’t text people. Okay, that’s it. No, it’s not. You definitely feel like she’s angling doing things for the show, and that quick conversation didn’t change your mind. You’re just starting to realize that you spoke a little bit too much. And even today, on her Instagram Stories, Aaron was washed over it, and I was, yeah, no, you were definitely went home that night with Abe, and we’re still pissed off at her, but you’re just gonna try to mask it. And I wasn’t into it. Jenna is seriously annoying me. She acts like she’s better than and none of it. Yeah, I didn’t really love even when she was in the work situation, because it’s okay to say, hey, I need to be back in the workforce. Instead of being like, Oh, my son’s about to go to college. So I feel like, Oh, I really hated that. I Oh, that scene where she was sitting there, the CEO of an online magazine. Get the fuck out of here I am. So she keeps shoving down her throat, our throat, how big time she is.
And I think what it annoys me is that it’s an ensemble cast of successful, Manhattan based women. Stop trying to be the most successful woman on it. You’re all successful. You all have different careers, different lanes, totally. It’s bothering me. I think that, listen, she’s got, she’s pointed out many times she’s 15 years older. So when you have 15 years more in your career than the next person, yeah, odds are you’re gonna seem more successful. But the shoving it down our throat, that boardroom meeting, I don’t buy any of it. Yeah, I know. I think she has that job in name, and I think whatever. And all those girls sitting around the table smiling and cheesing at her, she’s What the hell is the woman’s name, editor at large is usually more of an honorary position. Yeah. Now every company can be different, but playing it like Miranda from Miranda Pressley from Devil Wears Prada over Yeah, Jenna, better do something, because I’m over it. I agree. So before we have to go, I did want to wrap just talking about Jessel being quoted in clips coming out of Fan Fest that was in London for hayu, which is how, essentially, most the rest of the world watches Bravo. That is not us that there was an incident that was so dark that they finished filming early. They cut filming early, and two of the women had to be separated. One was sent to a hotel and one was sent home. And we are thinking, it’s Uber, and Bryn, it’s got to be uber and Bryn, i All I heard was that it’s very dark to me. That implies violence. I hope that’s not the case, and I haven’t had anything trickle in yet. I’m interested. Sometimes I don’t get it until stuff films. So when it films, someone may message me and say, Oh yes, blank is in trouble and may not be asked back, kind of thing. And according to a very recent interview with Aaron, they are not in a good place still. Yeah, and we can see from the beginning of the season, when they are start, we can see from it looks like they’re doing their season photos or something, that they are not in a good place as of then, either exactly, guys, if you’re not watching Roni, watch it. I’m enjoying it. And it’s not to say that I love you. Hear me complaining about them. I just like it. I They annoy me some of them, but I still enjoy it. Me too. All right, guys, thank you so much as always, for listening till next time. Thank you.