Sooooo much Bravocon to discuss, we can’t even get through it all. What’s the plan for the next Bravocon? Who was seen cozying up? Who was seen laughing together? What beef got started or ended there? Who do we think should have a threesome? And a tangent about microdosing and macrodosing…
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Busy Amanda oh my gosh, this the Bravo con hangover as I’ve started calling it and we didn’t even go
but we have a lot of tea. A lot of fun. Like I have to tell you and I told you guys this last year and even more so this year. I don’t know how I could go because we are getting emails and DMS in real time that you and I we wouldn’t be able to physically manage it. Yeah, it was there was a lot a lot coming in and then now on Discord too. For cocktail party. We were getting a lot of stuff coming in that way as well. So it was kind of coming from all angles plus some stuff from sources. So it sounds like overall the fans I think and the housewives minus everyone’s feet hurting which happens in Vegas. Anyway, you go to Vegas, your feet hurt because you walk a lot. Sounds like everybody really liked it in Vegas. Okay, I have only heard positive things about the execution of Bravo con lines are not long, unlike last year. You know, people complained a lot about New York. I don’t think it was as bad as people said, but remember I got snuck into the SVI P for a lot of the day so I think I missed some of the inconveniences and people are spending a lot of money so I get it like even general admissions is so expensive that you want to feel like you’re not being herded like cattle panels in Vegas. We’re all in huge rooms, tons of seating. I think that by them limiting tickets that helped but I know you’ve also explained to us that Vegas is the best spot for conventions like they’re really set up. They host them all year long. They really are and what followers shared with me and they were like you can’t even compare like Vegas is all service people. They’re pros. You can tell because not one complaint I haven’t read a complaint I haven’t seen a complaint. The only complaint that we did here was about the price super expensive. Now, some of our lucky listeners know that we posted and spoke about Bravo calm being in Vegas before it was announced.
I am relieved that was true. Because you know it’s
So many listeners actually booked rooms and flights, which worked out awesome for them because as soon as Vegas was it was announced instantly that hotel prices skyrocketed. The food and drinks were super pricey. And then the add ons like the Bravo’s and the Watch What Happens Live, they were a big additional cost. So you know, you’re looking it’s an investment people but people love it. Did you have to have a ticket to Bravo con to then buy an add on? I think I think and I could be wrong, correct me if I’m wrong. I think you need at least a one day pass to do it to buy any of the add on. I don’t think you could just do an add on. Because if you could, that would, you know, would that really be fair? I kind of feel like it’s an add on. So you should have to make an initial commitment, even if it’s a three day commitment. Yeah, it sounds like people were willing to pay it. You know, we heard from a lot of cocktails are saying like, this is my big splurge, you know, this is my big thing. You know, this is something like my birthday and Christmas combined. So you know, I think I just also really love the idea of Vegas for this because there is always so much going on in Vegas every single night. So there are so many different clubs. There’s so many different events spaces that people can have parties outside of Bravo con. Right. So I heard like Jeff Lewis, for example, did a big party. I think it was a sponsored party, some kind of alcohol sponsored, but there’s so many places and then there’s like also like for me, I feel like forgetting about Bravo and cocktails and cocktails and gossip. I’m at a person who would do three days just because I’m like a go all in one day kind of gal. I’m the same way with Disney. It’s just how I am. Yeah. But like I would do one day Bravo con. And then I would go to like the Usher concert I might put ahead or McDonald’s like yeah, I’d go to like another show I’ve been wanting to see. Magic Mike. Yes. You know what I mean? Like, I would make a weekend of it, which again, it all still adds up. So it’s still expensive. Yes. Oh, and then I would also spend a lot of time in the lobby bar, just seeing who walks in because I feel like that’s always something that you never know, especially with when we know kind of where everyone’s staying and where a lot of the events will be. So I read this article. I don’t know if you’ve had a chance to read it. It was in variety, which covers the entertainment business that interviewed the head of NBCU. Yes, I shared it. Yes. Okay, so yeah, I thought she gave some pretty interesting info so one thing she said is that they they do because we’ve gotten this question a lot that they do foot every bill for all of the talent at Bravo con. So all the flights, the hotels, all of the glam. Okay, here’s what to say about the glam? I think they probably give them a budget, right? So I think every probably so I know they because we had posted they get paid anywhere from five to 7500 depending on seniority and what have you. So I would imagine that talent probably gets like a basic daily budget for glam and if they decide to hire the most expensive glam in the world, and that’s on them. Right exactly like Erica Jane’s glam, I would imagine and styling is going to be a little different than if I were just like, hey, I want some hair and makeup done. And they’re not they’re not going to fly my glam from New York City to Vegas. It’s like okay, we have a team we have a glam squad here that will do your makeup. But if you don’t want to use them, then here’s $200 A day towards your glam crew. Yeah, kind of. I liked her point, though, that she said you know, I think that Bravo cotton really helped to employ a lot of the hair and makeup industry which was hurting due to the what has now ended the sag AFTRA strike. She also said the first Bravo con that was like four years ago, that one they treated more like a big marketing tactic, like an experience, but now they’re running it kind of as its own business that with its own profit center. It was I don’t know, it’s definitely worth worth a read. I thought it was it was pretty interesting because she gives some good tidbits about me, she also goes into the whole reality reckoning thing. She talks a little bit just about talent and the shows and you know, where the new you know, what the new shows might look like and that kind of thing. So I would definitely check it out be posted it but so not from this article, but from other emails and sources. We have also heard some other things about Bravo con for next year. So a few weeks ago, someone told you that Bravo Khan might be taking a break next year, and I didn’t post that because other people I asked said they hadn’t heard it, but somebody else told me they had heard that they might take a break and they said it is not due to a lack of success because it’s a very successful event, but the planning, execution and cost of
Putting on this amazing show annually is a lot. So I heard and I don’t think they’ve decided anything that there is some talk that they will alternate maybe every other year. But then a bunch of people followers included, told me that everyone at Caesars was saying See you next year and there’s a lot of talk that they inked a two to three year deal. I think they’ll definitely keep it in Vegas. I think it was very successful. We know that. It’s just it’s a well oiled machine, right? I’m not gonna go to a diner and order a bowl of spaghetti like you go to a diner, you get eggs, you get a burger. You know?
You go with like, you want to see the best Broadway shell Vegas isn’t going to be that you got to go to New York City. You want to go to a convention? Yes, yes. Yes. So exactly. I think I don’t know. I’m curious to hear. Because I mean, even the housewives have been saying Vegas just works better. I’m just curious if they will also say that it is exhausting, right. So I wonder if selfishly, I think if we’re going to talk about what’s best for fans, I think alternating year to year coasts is best. Because realistically, someone from the East Coast, people in our age group, right? With school aged kids, we’re in full swing of the school year, which encompasses sports, which encompasses all of these things. And it’s not so easy to get away for three or four nights. And me personally, I’m not going to Vegas for less than three nights. Because the flights too long, right? So I think that from that point of view, maybe they would, I don’t know, is there a way to like split it up? And maybe well, I did read in this article, they’re looking at some other opportunities to bring things more local. So I think they give an example of having Watch What Happens Live travel a little bit, which is done in the past. And I’m doing some other more local activations because, you know, another great city for conventions in Orlando, but I don’t see him doing it there. One, because I just don’t think there’s enough. There’s a lot of bars and restaurants and that kind of stuff. But I think the Disney slash NBCU because they’re not I don’t see NBCU bringing their business there because Disney is a competing company. I also feel like once you have to hop on a flight, like would I be more inclined to go to Florida than Vegas? I don’t know. And I’m somebody who goes to Florida a few times a year. I don’t I do love the idea of Watch What Happens Live traveling and I feel like I feel like Luann right. She’s really in the Bravo sphere. She started with her cabaret show, the giggly. giggly squad has had a very successful traveling show. But pillows and beer. Yeah, yeah, by the way, I’m going to in January, I don’t think I told you that. No, I for fun. And I’m bringing my husband and I did the meet and greet.
I haven’t decided I haven’t decided if I’m going to, if I’m going to skulk off and just be a fan, or if I’m going to wish bravo bravo and cocktails. I think I have to whisper on Bravo and cocktails. And that’s why I’m making my husband come. Because
in the event you get heated.
Yes, he’s got he’s got the muscle in your arms. Yes. Yeah. So did Bravo take that from our Bravo labs? Because, I mean, we got the trace. amigas traveling, so are they like, Hey, why aren’t we taking Watch What Happens Live on the road? I don’t know. I know they’ve done it in the past. So I think that would make sense. So I guess we’ll see. But the other thing I was thinking about this morning, as we’re kind of like gathering notes and everything to record, I feel like there must have just been literally like the executives who are involved with Bravo Khan must have just done like what we call a post mortem meeting, which is when they go back through everything, and then you know, talk about how they make things better. And I feel like one of our sources must have been at this meeting because we’ve gotten a lot of insider tea on both Bravo and Baba Khan information in the last day or so. So I think you know, let’s talk about that plus some of the just stuff that we saw that happened at Bravo cotton today. First, we saw to wreath deny her separation. And you guys might remember last podcast, we mentioned that PK had just been spotted in New York on Thursday at Bravo con weekend, when everybody was arriving to brava con and sure enough, we did not see him there. And I just feel like if they really weren’t separated and they were really working on it, wouldn’t they fight these rumors with an appearance from him? So I stand firm in my belief that they’re split and they’re working things out behind the scenes. We also saw Kyle slip up and use the divorce word, which the very next morning TMZ quickly put a story out saying she misspoke. She broke down on her panel. It was hard to watch
Ouch. I don’t think that they will divorce at least not right now. I believe that something big happened and it was the straw that broke their marriage is back we shared some kind of shocking speculation, emails, all that kind of stuff in cocktail party. So cocktail party Yeah, I do not know what the deal is with Morgan. Although I’m kind of leaning towards good friend. I believe the split is due to something that Mauricio did and I think it’s something big yes, I think so too. So we did also get a schedule of when some of the shows will air you know during Bravo con So, okay, so we know Vanderpump Rules will go on in January and then we also heard I don’t know if this is official or if this is something that we just heard but we heard January for summerhouse as well. Yes, some of these are not like announced some of them were announced. These are other official to me because I trust the person who told me but OC begins filming in February. Traders March by the way, we forgot to mention I posted this Kate Chasteen shows up midway through traders. Hmm, somebody got hurt. Something happened I forget the details, but she shows up midway through somebody’s claims place. Yes. Somebody told me that and then somebody else told me that so it’s definitely Jersey will be April possibly sooner. And guys we’re gonna get into all these shows and everything that happened at Bravo con. I never doubted that the RONIS trip was coming. And Andy announced it and December 8 Happy birthday to me.
My birthday is right around then. Southern hospitality season to December 7 on the summer house tip. Right. So summer. Yes. We’re hearing January. We have gotten so much in the past couple of days in the interest of getting through this Bravo con recap. We’ll we won’t get into all of it because it cuts out the whole freakin episode. If there’s time at the end, we will but I want to get through so everyone gets a taste of everything. Right? I thought the panel was a little weak. I’m not hating on the guy. But I didn’t like the moderator. I absolutely get that they’re saving it for the season. Only for Lindsey despoiled on a podcast the next day, I don’t think the network’s happy about that. But Carl definitely made it sound like we would not be against him. Once we see the season in interviews, he made it sound like that. So yeah, I think Lindsay was playing it up. I do think there was an aspect of trying to get the Ariana effect. But I do think that obviously a broken engagement is hurtful whether there were red flags or not.
I think it’s complicated because no one knows who Lindsay is more than Carl. And he did ask her to marry him. I think that’s like what I always come back to, like, whatever my opinion or the audience opinion is of Lindsey right. She is who she is like, yeah, she got sober for a few months. But she was still telling him to quit his job and yelling at Kyle and fighting with Danielle. She did not change the guts of who she is like, yeah. So he wanted at one point to marry that person. And then he cancelled it. So she’s right to feel betrayed. I don’t know. Yeah, I’m not saying he should have gone through with it. I’m just saying that he’s entitled to his feelings, and she’s entitled to hers. Yes. And I think like we’ve said this so many times, it’s more about how it was done. Right. And Lindsey, I think also said in a podcast, which we won’t go into too much, but that she just thinks that Carl doesn’t understand what commitment is. Yeah, she said she didn’t think that he had cheated or not that or that she didn’t know of him cheating, but that specifically he didn’t understand what commitment is. So I’m not going to get into the details of all that because it is pretty interesting. Yeah. Okay. Let’s see her. Speaking of Lindsay. Got a few different tips. We got an email during Baba con, saying that two former flings from different shows hooked up, which could be a lot. It could sound a lot like Austin and Lindsey. Well, I we also have some exclusive cocktail tea that we’ll share with everybody that we posted on Wednesday. And then at night, she was at the Country Music Awards. And I heard she is in fact with that guy. Dustin, I want to say Lynch country sooner. So I heard they’re hooking up I heard they’ve been hooking up since two weeks post breakup rumors rumors out, allegedly, but seeing her at the Country Music Awards. She mentioned his name on the podcast we had posted a month ago, which would be three weeks after their breakup that they were hanging out and that we heard there may be maybe hooking up. She was on the tour bus and we all know what that means. Yeah.
out, which isn’t to say that she couldn’t have had a fling and Bravo calm because it’s only a few weeks. It’s obviously probably still casual, but maybe she hooked up with Austin. Maybe she’s hooking up with Dustin. She’s activated and she’s out for rebound and I say, get it. I agree. And you know, guys, it could be two other flings, right? It could be Sierra and Austin. I’m kidding. Because we know Sierra’s dating the new guy from and nobody’s really talking about that except us because nobody knows him yet. Yeah, it could be Katie from below deck and Tom who hooked up? Oh, totally could be that when our house it could be Danielle and Alex. I don’t even know if Alex was there. He was. He’s so weird.
I don’t think we’ll be able to get to him. But oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so sure is like Okay, wait, wait. So I had this whole run on Bravo and cocktails where I learned that people micro shroom. Yeah. Do you remember? Knows? I think that, Alex, personally, I’m not aware I that I’ve been hanging out with people that do it, although, based on what cocktail or shared seems like it’s pretty prevalent. So I probably am. And I don’t realize, but I say all that to say I believe that Alex is in a constant micro shroom. Because that’s how he acts like more or like a macro. shroom. I
I totally agree with you. i That is so funny that you bring that up. I got invited to be a part of this group. And I think it’s essentially like, I mean, I think it’s essentially like you get into this group, and then you get access to it, but it’s called mom’s on mushrooms. Who invited you?
I can’t say a friend.
It was a friend. Someone you know, like, not like yeah, no, I didn’t just get like a random text. It’s like, oh, no, it was an invitation. And it’s like, you have to be invited. And this group like it, there’s like support group for it too. But part of it is you get these chocolate bars that have mushrooms and it’s you know, it’s like, I guess like a modern day like, you know, drugged. I don’t know what you want to call it. Because I don’t want to defame the name of that group at all our mushrooms like legal in a lot of states. They are now Yeah, or they’re not illegal. So it depends on the state, I think but yeah, so it’s, I’ve actually done a lot of reading about it. Because there’s a lot of people who take a very, very low dose, like a micro dose and it helps with depression. Right people were joking about it, but I we shouldn’t because there are medicinal purposes. Yeah. Anxiety and depression and yeah, okay. Yeah. I mean, I would definitely but what if you like, take too much, and then you’re just like, trip it out at work? Well, I, first of all, I don’t know that I would take it before work. Second of all, there’s enough of that stuff floating around that I haven’t it’s not my story. But a friend of mine was at like a social gathering and somebody passed around one of those bars and they were like, no, no, there’s no like, Shrooms, Shrooms, it’s just like Ashwagandha or whatever, some other kind of like, nutritional benefit. But no, it was like the actual shroom shrooms so they’re all they all like, yeah, got Yeah, it’s it’s a lot more common than I think a lot of people realize.
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whatever blows your hair back, yeah, I’m not I’m saying, but I’m really not just try it. Why I’m 100% I mean, it sounds fun, but this is the thing.
Alex, listen, everything in moderation, right? It’s like, Alex, whatever he’s on, I’m gonna pass that might be straight acid.
Let’s see her let’s talk about let’s move on to Jersey, because I feel like there was quite a bit of spotlight and discussion with the jersey folks. So somebody sent in that they saw Joe Gorga. Right. Joe Gorga and Jackie laughing and chatting. So sounds like maybe her Jackie’s only beef is really with March. Yeah. I mean, we hear this and I have heard more about their beef. I hear it’s about Jackie’s book deal. I hear it is not some huge nefarious situation. Some are speculating that Jackie found out Margaret started the seven cheating rumors. I hear that’s not it. What I’m hearing is that Margaret claims to have helped her get the book deal and feels Jackie did not think or credit her and I guess Jackie does not see it that way. And they fell out from there. So Melissa actually came out in an interview during Bravo con and said that kind of you know, Melissa usually keeps it aboveboard. But she said Jackie wishes I cared that she was friends with Teresa, but I don’t and she can be friends with who she wants because everyone knows she’s just doing what she needs to do. She didn’t say for screen time, but she’s like she basically was like it’s everyone knows it’s just a pathetic like, ploy to get stay on the shell. Here’s what I have been told by more than one person. And we posted this originally this season, Jackie was less than a friend of meaning she wasn’t even going to be included on cash trips. So when she flipped, and we had this beef at the baseball game is when it really started to heat up with Margaret and decided to really buddy up with Theresa and Jen. That is when it garnered her more screentime which you could argue it also got Margaret A scandal right and her more screentime but that is what happened. Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, I feel bad because I like Jackie, but it is pretty transparent what she’s doing. And I think I’m surprised because to me prior to this, it always seemed like she was on the show, but could take it or leave it. She never had. I mean, she has her book now but she never had a business to promote. She’s always said she’s independently wealthy. It just seems like a weird move, I guess an ego thing for her and I have to say because we first saw the little taste of it when she was at emote Buddha that she reached Futoshi all that summer saying like, why are you you know, are you not paying attention to me or whatever, I just I am seeing a different side. And it feels like I am surprised by the depth of her thirst and I feel like yes, you and I know thirst. We talk about thirst all day, every day here at cocktails and gossip. And it’s just like a very, it can’t just be about promoting her book, right? It’s to be about her, her ego. So I agree. I always really liked her and now I’m just you know, seeing a different side. I mean, but the thing for me was so at their panel, yeah, a fan or personally, like and the person the woman was being rude. She said to Jen, why are you so far up? Teresa’s ass? Yeah, now we watched Kyle get a rude question about Teddy and Kyle Shadid. The person who was questioning her without insulting her weight, her gender, her sexual orientation. She shaded her appropriately. Jen, when the person asked this rude question said called her big boy and it was a woman and then doubled down several times on social media, Instagram, Twitter, whatever, calling her a whale and then saying people were saying to Jen, like, how would you feel if someone spoke to your kids that way? And Jen said, I teach my kids to be nice or expect to be treated this way. So like this is Jackie’s friend and Jackie’s platform.
is currently body positivity. Right? Make it make sense. And Jackie has been radio silent since any of us happen so strange. I find it it just makes it I mean, aren’t you embarrassed in the words of Sebastian Maniscalco? Like, aren’t you embarrassed? Theresa spread a rumor about your husband cheating Jen and her simply never liked each other. I mean, if you go back and watch it from the very beginning, they’re just oil and water. And I want someone to ask her about the body shaming. I’m sure people have on social media and she probably deleted it. Now, I’m not saying she has no reason to be upset with Marge, if Marge did do something, right, she has every right to be upset if she feels left out, which may be the case when she was demoted. Maybe Marge and Melissa kind of were like, Okay, well, you’re not as relevant. You know what I’m saying? Yeah, but to become a friend, friends with people who you didn’t like for six years. It’s really like bottom of the barrel? Like just walk away if that’s the case. Yeah, I mean, I’m sorry if somebody’s openly spread. unfounded rumor about my husband, I would just be like we’re done. Yeah, done. We can be I will always be civil. But we are. We are done. And so not only does she not do that she goes in but if it doesn’t make sense to me, make it make sense. I don’t get it. So Danielle, also, we got an email Daniel coverall was cut from the newbies panel and was not really with anyone on the cast for most of Bravo con. So let me read the email really quick. From panel change. Email is what happened at New jersey.com. Subject new wave the new wave of wives panel, Crystal, Wendy, Emily, Julia Gertie, Danielle cabal was supposed to be on the panel, but was taken off. Does anyone know why. So I got this email, and I posted it. And then I shared that it’s weird because ahead of the weekend, somebody a source had mentioned, they’re like, I don’t really know what this is about. But something’s going on with Danielle I’m hearing she may not be welcome at Bravo con. Clearly that wasn’t true. Because she was there. And they don’t know what that was about. They assumed it was some sort of miscommunication. Lost in Translation type of type of thing. But it does seem that her role was purposely minimized. And even if you watched her stories and stuff she was with this family from I believe Australia, they’re influencers and she she became friends with them online. But she wasn’t with any of the women I mean, on a couple of panels she was but she wasn’t like independently socializing. Yeah, interesting. I guess I also have somebody else who actually was banned from Baba Khan. And it all went down the week before as a kind of result of a result of the reality reckoning article. And then Ramona has reaction and response to a reporter she was banned from Bravo con, we know luckily that it’s not going to affect us getting the RONIS girls trip, but it’s you know, Ramona was was uninvited from Bravo con, we also heard that she was let go from her real estate job. But Avery, her daughter did show and sit in the booth for batch boss.
So we had heard that she might not be there, but apparently her company, which sidenote Ramona we hear, allegedly is the majority owner of they already had their booth. And Avery really had the balls to actually attend which I found kind of wild, but so many followers said that she was so annoyed and rude. And if anyone asked about her mother, which I can sort of understand why she would be annoyed, but you’re there. And apparently she did. Olivia Cobos. bachelorette party. Oh, but I don’t know that one it this business model, it intrigues me, we’ll put it that way. Totally. And also, by the way, if you’re Avery, and this happens, you know, get somebody who is good with words to provide you with a canned statement that you say over and over again, and say, Hey, I’m here to promote batch boss. I’m not here to speculate on what’s going on with my mom, right for all of Ramona has success and wealth, the fact that she never invested she is the walking billboard for why PR firms exists. The woman needs a script. I don’t care if she carries index cards with her. She needs a script to follow and when she goes off it It better be like in the privacy of her own home. I don’t know I if you read I know you read that article. I mean, they purpose
They tried to give her education and she still just didn’t. She just didn’t take we’ll put it that way. So the new women of Roni so I don’t know if you saw a few follow will all of them were a huge hit. But I think Brynn especially Did you see the video of where she’s like I broke broke Bravo cod because there was a one stage it was at the bottom of the escalator God yes. And her loo batons got stuck in the escalator. And
she was like, I guess it Yes, it was so and it was so her. So bread and Erica made such a like nasty smirking face. I posted about that that annoyed me. And then Sonia posted a picture of them and said it was love at first sight. I can totally see those two because very good friends. sigh we’ll be back. We’re hearing sigh we’ll be back. Do you want to read the email with the this is an exclusive some exclusive tea that we got about the upcoming season? Yes. Okay. Filming for Roni season 15 will start happening in March of 2024. They will film until June of 2020 for an air in September 2020. For most likely, there will be no old Roni wives like previous I don’t think that’s an age joke. Yes, the returning cast will be cybron Aaron and Jessel Jenna Lyons is a fan favorite but is declining because she doesn’t like the constant pressure to perform as a housewife with the fighting etc. She also wants to keep her girlfriend private. So please respect her privacy Ooba was demoted to friend of as production didn’t appreciate her going off of their union and also going on a social media tirade, calling Tamra and other people hags for no reason. There might be one or two newbies because I don’t think that they will fill with for how housewives lol also keep expecting cameos from former Roni wives but only guest appearances because the current production who films this is also on speaking terms with many of the old Roni wives. First thing I don’t know if I believe Uber is demoted to a friend of
I think Google was very well received. I do think that if she’s still with Mr. Connecticut, they’re gonna push her to show that I believe the rest Jenna, actually, I was unhappy. Did you see that clip of Jenna. And she was somebody asked her why weren’t you at Bravo con. She said, Oh, I had a prior engagement. You know, twiddling my thumbs. Like Yeah. Oh, really? Well, bravo. And us fans were good enough for you to launch your lash business. Right. And listen, like you had heard of Jenna Lyons. I can tell you. I’m not a Jake J Crew isn’t my style. No hate to J Crew. They have quality clothes, especially their crew cuts for kids are very quality love J Crew just shop there this weekend actually. And so many, so many people do, right? It’s like gap, right? It’s not Uber expensive, but it’s like an upper middle class. crappy, crappy. I’m Yes. And I’m, I’m gaudy. I’m like, give me the sparkle.
Listen, I am who I am. But I didn’t know it. Thank you, Amanda. But I didn’t know who Jenna Lyons was. And I’m also like, I’m not that fashionable. Like,
I’m not I started in Florence and I got there and all the girls were there. I mean, you go into Italy, you’re obviously love art you love fashion. I just liked Italians and food like I
I didn’t know shit about art. I didn’t know shit about fashion and being there during that time. Like I learned a lot about fashion but like, it’s just not my thing. I know a lot about jewelry. I could tell you a lot about jewelry, but I just don’t know name brands. So Jenna Lyons was in my opinion, not a household name. I think that women who are into fashion knew who she was right? I knew who she was also just because of her her being a you know a girl I hate the word girl boss but her being a girl boss being you know, running J Crew and then having some other businesses so I very much knew who she was and was very excited to see her but you’re right. It put a bad taste in my mouth to see her respond that way. In that interview. I liked the idea of all the other women coming back. Even even sigh I think sigh deserves a second chance. We saw her say Oh, this is what I wanted to say. This is what I wanted to say Amanda. So we went on that whole rabbit hole that a follower went really went down a rabbit hole and on sighs blah
hug her old blog. She spoke about how she had her first daughter, her first child. And her husband still lived in Canada. And so people were speculating that it’s because he wasn’t yet divorced, that here’s the thing. It may be that he was separated and are not legally divorced. But it also could be like he’s Canadian. So he couldn’t live in the States. But if he were fully divorced, why wouldn’t they have just gotten married? So I think it may be like Paul and Delores where he was separated. But he wasn’t legally divorced. Yeah, but him being Canadian makes sense why he couldn’t live like it didn’t even occur to me. That makes sense. Yeah. Why I wonder? Are they waiting until March to film and then so that’s March, April, May. June. That’s only four months. Don’t they usually film for more like six to eight? I don’t know. I think they do pickups and stuff. I don’t know. Yeah. It’s interesting, because I feel like that that I wouldn’t they want some of I mean, I guess may in June, you can get some Hamptons in. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking the exact same thing. Well, no, it’s Erin has the house there. But I bet that we see. I could totally see Jessel renting a house and Bryn sigh has her house upstate, but I can see Jessalyn bruh Bryn renting something for the summer. I don’t know if there’s any part of this whole thing that I hope is not true. I hope it’s that they’re not waiting until March. That feels way too late. When did the new Roni start? Was that August? Yeah. Yeah. So we’d be waiting a long time. We will Yeah. Discover pine melon, Denver and boulders. Go to community grocery app. Enjoy fresh, locally sourced foods delivered straight to your door hassle free with free same day delivery seven days a week. Say goodbye to long lines at the grocery store and hello to convenience support local farmers and producers in the process while enjoying fair prices and quality ingredients. Use code iHeart for $50 off your first order, no strings attached and no subscription required. Download the pine melon app or visit pine melon.com and start making a positive impact on your local food system. Welcome to the Chevy lightning round guests the clues to win for Steam, Europe.
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Yeah, I don’t know what it feels like. And maybe we’d see a little bit more of Brandon’s dating life. And you know, I think Ooba coming out, brings worse work life. Like yeah, we she’s like a boss babe, and they made her look like she worked for an escort company. I know. They really did like it was kind of shitty. Yeah, I totally agree. Okay, so during the Bravo’s a lot of the Real Housewives of Orange County Oh geez. Came out of the woodwork to support Vicki and to award her the award. So we also got well, why don’t you share what you
Got through DM. So I Friday I was getting DM saying that followers are slayed and Gretchen at the airport and OC OG Lauren’s husband at the cafe in Paris. Gretchen and Alexis were also spotted traveling to Las Vegas. And then of course, oh, then we were sent a picture of Gretchen, Alexis and Laurie in Vegas.
And then they they were there to present the award to Vicki which I thought it was so funny when who was it? Alexis said, I’m the only one here who hasn’t slept asleep because Gretchen, of course is with Slade, Laurie, David Slade and then Joe, the OG Joe. I think she was only on two seasons. I love Joe by the way I knew to she was only a couple years older than me when she was on the show. And I remember being like oh my god, that’s so crazy that she’s like getting married and has kids because we were like had just I had like in college or just graduated. Yeah. Um
so after Bravo con, a follower saw Alexis at the airport. She said she was really lovely and warm and friendly. And she told her she won’t be back on OC but check for her. On other shows. I assume she meant like girls trips. But someone reached out to me like a source to say Alexis would certainly return if she was asked. So I say wait and see. OC filming begins February. Tamra is back Jen is back. Vicki will be back. I don’t know if she wants full time. I know we had said it would be announced that she’s full time. I think that Vicki’s in a good flow of her life right now. I think at first we know that she was so pissed to be a friend of but then when she took the step back and now she’s in a healthy what seems to be a healthy relationship. She’s a doting grandma to Brianna’s four kids who again live far away. So she may like the relevancy that a friend of gives her and her businesses and she still gets to go to things and all that, but maybe she doesn’t want to be full time. I kind of got that vibe from her last season.
I know there’s a big push for Teddy, what are your thoughts on Teddy’s big? The push for her and her and Vicki squash the beef? Well, I think Teddy it’s interesting, because I mean, we’re hearing you know, I think I think Kyle would like to have her on Beverly Hills. We’re also hearing Tamra say very much because you know, they do the two T’s in a pod podcast that she thinks that Teddy should be on OC I think Teddy has some interesting stuff going on in her life. You know, she’s going through skin cancer right now. She’s inactive treatment. She actually has active skin cancer, I think, you know, I would like to see more of a platform given for that. Yes. So you know, I’ve always liked Teddy. I actually think I like her a little bit better on the podcast, and I did on the show. I did think that the whole thing going on with her and Vicki, I got to go with Team Teddy on this one. And not just because I’ve always kind of liked Teddy but hearing the whole story about how Vicki called after she found out that Tamra was going to go on and like they were going to revamp Teddy’s podcast and that Tamra was going to be her partner on it. Vicki called Teddy’s boss at I Heart Radio and said that Teddy shouldn’t have the job and to give it to Vicki and said I remember hearing that the balls on that woman but also what a shitty thing to do. I mean, that is is a shitty unforgivable, I think so should you thing to do and it’s a hater thing to do. I thought so. Also something we forgot to mention is that two T’s is going to be I guess, somehow producing or involved in Are they just announcing it? Because they’re under I Heart Radio, so why did they make it sound? And I didn’t watch the whole clip or interview that Teddy did with Jen Fesler and Jackie Goldschneider but they’re gonna have a pod called to Jays Oh, I didn’t know that. But it Oh, Teddy almost edited as if they were producing it, which just from a business standpoint doesn’t make sense. Because why would Jackie and Jen give I heard a cut and then give Tamra and Teddy a cut. So maybe they’re not like producing it, but they’re just under the same network and they announced it. They’re here to promote it. Are you going to listen to Jackie and listen, Jen Fesler can be funny, but they can’t do what? There’s already two T’s in a pot, right? Yeah, there’s already a successful duo that recaps shows there’s probably a few people that do that. But on the same network what are they just gonna have other people from like, show on? I don’t know. And because they you know, they have the insider track right as housewives which is why I think so many people do listen to it. I don’t know. I might listen to it a little bit just to hear how it goes. Because I really do like I think Jen
So it’s really funny. So I also think they’re both really smart. Right? And I do think that there was a world where they could have a successful podcast talking about topics. But my question is, does their audience is there something other than Bravo that their audience is collectively interested in? Right? Because like you and I agree on, like, we both love Bravo. But then our other interests could be different, right? Like, you could like a certain type of music, and I could like another two. So yeah, or politics, or, you know what I’m saying? Like, I feel like Jackie, and Jen Fessler could certainly have like a political sort of podcast because I think they’re both well read and their Jackie’s an attorney and all that. But would that translate to their fan base? And who is their fan base? Right? Because they’re kind of like, I’m sorry, I keep interrupting, you know, but they’re kind of like, how do I say this? They’re kind of like Robins like, they’re not Batman’s, like, tambours a Batman. Right? And Teddy was Teddy’s a Robin, but Tamra is enough of a Batman but like Jackie and Jen are both Robins. Yeah, I guess it remains to be it’s not a pod make. I agree. I agree. And so if it were somebody a little more oh, gee, you know, like, Melissa, or like, somebody like that, that has very deep roots with so many of the housewives like Tamra does, and like Teddy has now seemingly seemed to develop, I could see that being interesting. You know, one of the things I do like is when Teddy will you know, pick up the phone when they’re recording the podcast, like the last one I listened to, or one of them she called PK to ask is old cackling hags really a thing? Right? You know, like, I like that, you know, and so I can see that where there would be a place for that from a jersey standpoint. I just
call it Yes. Like Teresa’s not picking up. Jen’s not picking up or Jen. Aiden may pick up but who cares what she has to say. Like Beverly Hills is a more interesting group of people there for sure. highly sought after I feel like it’s hard to it’s hard for me to really communicate. But like as an example, Marisol I’m saying it like you say it now. And Alexia had that poor for vor. Podcast what happened to that? What happened to that still on? Who listens because I never see any ads or anything for you. And I always see a pop up on the two T’s in a pod feed because I think they’re trying to push it. And I find the two of them more interesting than Jen and Jackie on a pod but I’m not tuning something to listen to a ton of pots. Yeah, to be fair, I I listened to a few Yeah, I hear you. Like I feel the same way. Okay. giggly squad fun, great pod. codependence with Sierra and Maya who’s listening. I like I like both girls. Don’t get me wrong. But I don’t like him enough to tune in for an hour. Neither one of them is funny. Yeah, like they’re cool. But that doesn’t make you funny. Like, you know whose part I would listen to because it would be like kind of like a sassy vibe. Like if vibe like it’s Lindsey Hubbard had a pod I would listen, because she’s kind of like a Lala. She’ll put it all out there. She’ll talk some shit like Sheena. But not every personalities, a pod personality. I totally agree. Um, which is also kind of, I mean, how I’ve always kind of felt about Sheena. But she but see Sheena’s angle is good because she exploits other people’s situations. And she gets them on her pod. And it’s not always but the times that people have their eyes on Vanderpump like when Stasi was fired, and Jax was like, Go, Schwartz and Katie broke up. And of course, scannable like she’s had a lot of different moments in time where her pod was successful, right? Because she will put that mic in front of someone when they’re vulnerable. And it’ll be somebody who’s friends with her and just doesn’t have the heart to say no, and she’ll get a pot out of it. Mm hmm. That’s very true. I wanted to know did you see any of the videos because you know, I follow Shannon, did you see the videos of her and Vicky, just, you know, at Bravo con dressed up, that kind of stuff. Okay. I’m going to discuss the Shannon thing because everybody is oh, she looks great. Good for her. Good for her. She’s basically taking no accountability and saying she cut toxic things out of her life. She did not specifically name alcohol herself. Although I did see people write alcohol, no clip did I see her say alcohol? She is referencing John. So she a 50 something year old woman is basically turning around and saying I made a huge mistake. But that’s not who I am. And now that I have stopped for 28 days, I did a little program for 28 days.
I have started speaking to John Jansen and I am going to move forward and thank you for your support. That’s not accountability. Accountability is I fucked up, my drinking got out of hand, I need to get myself in shape, which includes cutting out some toxic things in my life. But also it includes me looking in a mirror and saying like, You got to fix yourself. Yeah, it was all about outside forces. I mean, again, one of those people who are always pointing at everybody else, like it’s just more of the victimization that she very she very much falls into this victim savior. kind of pattern where she she wants to be the victim. So until she becomes the hero in her own story, she’s gonna keep fucking up. Okay, there’s so much more that will listen. Okay, next week, guys. We have ally coming she was at Bravo calm with Larry. I got to see what Larry can get on here too. But, and we’re going to be talking more Bravo calm then because I know you guys are going to like listen to this and be like, Oh, but they didn’t talk about this that we got to talk about Captain Jason though. Yes. Really quick, because he was and we called it didn’t we didn’t we call it before? Before Baba Khan started. We said we thought Captain Jason was going to be the big kind of hook up target. And sure shit. We saw him with law law. We heard Luann say that she wanted to meet him. We heard that there was some coziness with Ashley. Yes, the Lala part I heard. So I heard a couple of things with Lala. So I heard that Lala was flirty with him. And we saw the pictures and we definitely saw there was a flirt. But I got an I got an A DM that somebody saw Carl and Lala and he was like walking her to her seat. And they were I don’t know if they were exactly holding hands but kind of like intimate. She said it was like an intimate sighting. Now, it could be the solidarity and their respective sobriety. And they live on different coasts, although I think he was just in Malibu because he’s wrapping up that movie. So I would like to keep our eyes on coral and Lala, I actually will say, I can see this and I’m gonna let you know why. Clearly, Carl light likes an outspoken wild woman. Let’s let’s call it what it is.
But it does get tricky, because you can’t be with an outspoken wild woman who drinks a lot when you’re sober. And some people maybe they can but clearly it’s difficult for him and and he says it you know, he’s, it’s difficult for him. And I feel like Lala we know she’s sober. But she’s also very, she can be very activated even sober. She has that wild side to her. So I really can see that how these two could work. Alright, yeah, I could see it too. I don’t know I after hearing about all of the law law, and then Ashley, and then the cat, actually and Captain. It sounds like they hooked up from what I heard. I mean, maybe that all three of them should just go have a threesome. I think they should just get it out there guys because we’ve got that another email about the fraud in Potomac who’s not really getting divorced, but they have an open marriage call it what it is. It’s fine. He’s fine with it. She’s fine with it. She gets to hook up with Luke last year, Captain Makati this year. And then she gets to go home and live her life with her quote unquote husband and their children. Whatever. Yeah. And they don’t live together, which I think suits her very well. Yes, on the last show. No, but I think that they might live together. I think he might live in that house. Oh, really? She said he has a key but he sounds like he kept his penthouse. Right? Right. So it’s like a great situation because he probably spend some nights at home with the family and they do family dinners and they put on their you know, cozy slippers, which I’m currently wearing. Like those smiley face slippers. Like, do you ever wear things and you look at yourself and you’re like, God, I’m such a mom. Oh, like, almost every day? Yeah. So I’m wearing my mom so they have those nights and then they have they’re dropping like a tad he goes to the penthouse. She hires a babysitter and she’s you know, doing her tic TOCs with whomever she’s tic tock in and flirting with maybe Captain Makati. I mean, if she’s talking to the if the kids are going back and forth and she’s talking to them about that’s at Daddy’s house and do you do this or whatever at Daddy’s house? Right? I think Ashley is a great mom. I don’t think she is they’re really just having this kind of you know, we’ve got an open marriage and we’re still staying together. I don’t think she would be delineating between Daddy’s house and mommy’s house with the boys and on camera like that. So yeah, I do think though that that might be a situation
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