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Hot tea incoming on a Real Housewives of New Jersey and her husband fighting with someone in their inner circle IN PUBLIC – and some Instagram unfollowing. B’s got a prediction about Teresa. Vanderpump Rules and Beverly Hills both gave us great reminders that partners need to have the sometimes hard financial discussions. Rachel Leviss was seen in NYC – what was she up to? B has an epiphany about Kyle and Dorit’s friendship – Cocktailers, do you guys agree? And this week, we saw a public spat between some of our favorite RHONY Legacy ladies and some of the current Reboot housewives. 

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Joe and Melissa and Theresa were fine before he came. And he was the thing that ultimately broke that was like they had remedied all of their family situations and they were close when she got out of jail. And they had mended fences and he divided them again and we washed it and I think that one of the reasons Joe didn’t go to the wedding it wasn’t it was about his sister but it was also about like I can’t cosign this because I know this isn’t good for her
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What’s up cocktail hours and Amanda Haycock Taylor’s high V. Okay, so I’m really excited about some of this scoop that you have for us because I have not heard all about this. So I’m guessing the cocktail hours haven’t heard this yet, either. And I think it’s pretty good if you’re a New Jersey person. Alright, share with us what you got. Okay, so at Bravo con, I got I received a lot of information about Bravo con, and I shared a lot of it. Sometimes when there are receipts, you and I both know, there was so much coming in during Bravo con weekend and so much of it had pictures and proof and everything, that I sort of just held some stuff in the kitty and was like, you know, what should this be relevant? I can always go back to it, but it’s relevant. And so I heard about a situation at Bravo con, and then I heard about a overarching issue that was behind the scenes. So I was informed today. What’s today or Yes, whatever. I was informed this week that Louis unfollowed to Reese’s pod cast co host Melissa Foster, sell. Melissa Foster is a person who had an account. Apparently her husband is a talent agent. They live in California. She had a podcast that was she had like a small following on Instagram. I’m not exactly sure how she got hooked up with Theresa, I had thought her husband managed or worked with Theresa getting her deals because he was a talent manager, whatever the case may be. They teamed up and started their namaste podcast. So the rumor that had been going around, and I heard this from like people who were there and so right, was that at Bravo con people witnessed Louis yelling at her co host Teresa’s co host, Melissa parently, Louie and his assistant kept screaming at her over and over. And he was in a rage and like the screaming like there was, you know, spit coming out as he was screaming, oh, my God. He was saying things allegedly. And again, I don’t I wish somebody would have taken a video of it. But
if this is true, he was saying things like Theresa is the star, you’re a nobody. And you’re going to respect me, you’re going to respect her or we’re going to have a problem. So
Theresa was there at some point of it. She didn’t step in, she let it go on. And I believe that they address it on the podcast. Although I didn’t listen, some followers asked me like, Hey, what’s this about? I heard on the podcast, she was saying, oh, there’s a rumor. Apparently, people are saying it wasn’t a rumor. Now, coincidence, he unfollowed her. Now, this part that I heard. And again, if this comes true, we’ll know it was true. Is that obviously but the upcoming season? Her podcast is one of her businesses, right? So it’s going to be featured on The Season make sense. And word on the street is that Teresa plans on not renewing Melissa’s contract as her co host. But she’s not doing that she’s not letting her go until the season airs. Which makes absolute sense because it would draw a lot of attention to this, right. So right? If we’re watching the season, and we’re watching the podcast, and we go to look as viewers, we’re like, Wait, they’re no longer work together.
The other thing is this. Melissa Foster is very outspoken. She’s a spicy gal. So I’m like saying to myself, right, because you’ve listened to their pod I have. So laning Yeah. So if Teresa plans on dropping her, I understand it’s smart not to do it before the season. But doesn’t she realize that whenever she drops her this call house has a platform and it’s going to come out and she’s going to speak on what went down working with them. What Louis was like, what Teresa and Louise relationship was like, I mean, perhaps they feel they have nothing to hide and they see it as you know, they want to try to end with her amicably. But Teresa wants to move in another direction. I mean, that certainly happened. There’s not that, you know, people split up not necessarily bad blood or whatever. Or maybe there’s an NDA. I would, I could I would not be surprised one bit, actually, if there is some kind of NDA in place where they just don’t have to worry that she will do that or she’ll get sued. Right. I mean, that would make sense. And I’m looking at looks like she has another podcast that’s still running. Yeah, he’s always had that side piece. And it looks like it goes like every couple of weeks, and she interviews Bravo labs. So the other thing that I heard when I heard all of this is that you know that annual game that they do that Dolores is charity for the hospital.
Yeah, apparently at that game, Louie was incensed because Bill eight and talk to Joe Gorga and he was screaming things like Oh That little punk John Fouda staring at me. I’ll eff him up. He was cursing about Bill talking that he how Joe but then afterwards he kissed Bill’s ass. So also they said he’s always yelling at Teresa’s lawyer, Jim. So Louis has his anger management stuff has just gone out the window, according to these sources, and it also was brought to my attention that Louie and his sister, Veronica, who was heavily featured at their wedding, and Theresa talks about being such great friends with his sister and him are no longer following him each other, they had a fallout. Hmm, I mean, again, you know, of course, he was so big on, you know, pushing Theresa, we need to have family unity. And now he’s not talking to his sister, I’m not shocked and like, I come back to, if he, if he were to be a narcissist, or have narcissistic tendencies, that is, a typical thing that happens in relationships is the narcissistic person, whatever, starts to try to isolate the other person. So you know, isolating from business relation outside business, relationships, friendships, family, it fits the pattern to me. Yep. Not that I know anything. And I’m not diagnosing anything, but it sure does seem to fit the pattern. Well, Teresa is still following the sister, I believe. And I remember his first season or whatever it was him saying things when they were trying to have a relationship with Joe Gorga. Like, my siblings, and I have had issues and all that kind of stuff. So I don’t know what the Fallout was about. I heard money. I heard business deal. I mean, we shall see. We shall see because they’re, they’re under a microscope. And people want the Louis stuff out there so much that
it’s impossible for it. Now. I do. I do think you’re right about the NDA, because yeah, they’d have to. And also, she’s any failures, she doesn’t probably want to burn bridges.
Does any of this surprise anybody? Based on what we’ve seen from him?
I would scream and yell at somebody in public. Doesn’t surprise me. I hear that he is not featured that much this season. I hear that he kind of keeps his cool this season. That surprises me more than all of this. But then again, I just think he’s good at keeping a lid on it. And he’s gotten better since he’s been in the public eye.
I don’t I’m not surprised at all, actually, that he is not featured as much because of all of the drama with bringing the security guy to the reunion. What’s the again, Bodie? It’ll I don’t know, I just don’t, I didn’t let you through forget. And let’s not forget, Andy for months after the season air aired, Andy asked every single guest what they thought of Louie, and like, wanted everyone to trash him like Andy’s Not a fan. The network isn’t a fan. But it’s like a train wreck is what I hear. And they just can’t look away from it. Because should it blow up? And should it be a whole thing? It’s going to be must see TV? I mean, do we hear if there’s if any of this stuff because I would imagine just gonna throw this out there. But if my husband has quickly yelled and screamed at the point that spit was coming out of his mouth. I may. Yes. You like that would cause some huge issues in my marriage? I don’t think so though. I don’t think that would cause issues in her marriage. I don’t think we saw her with Jo season with her husband active. Yeah. And she’ll take his side. I think it would listen over time. If it’s true that he has volatile relationships with everybody in her life. I mean, I’ve heard stories about every single person in her life, from her makeup to her hair to her lawyer, daughter, his sister, hopefully not, I hope I haven’t heard I haven’t heard the daughters. You know, somebody like our friend Michelle Dempsey, would tell you that somebody like this, it would be impossible she said it on our podcast. She’s like, we haven’t heard it, but it would be impossible for somebody with this personality not to have had issues you know, because the girls girl, you could keep things nice for TV. But at the end of the day, they live in a home together they’re gonna have emotions and opinions. And when they don’t align with his there’s going to be a reaction. You can’t cover stuff. Someone didn’t leave a mess in the kitchen like something dumb, right? And then the rage will come out. Yeah, exactly. So and I said it and I hope that we’re wrong, and I hope that although
He has these sort of issues when it comes to Theresa and and the girls. He loves them. And he isn’t like that with them. I mean, that would be ideal. Yeah. Listen, Joe and Melissa and Theresa were fine before he came. And he was the thing that ultimately broke that was like, they had remedied all of their family situations. And they were close when she got out of jail. And they had mended fences. And he divided them again. And we watched it. And I think that one of the reasons Joe didn’t go to the wedding, it wasn’t it was about his sister, but it was also about like, I can’t cosign this because I know this isn’t good for her. Yeah, you know, and I think that the focus became so much the pettiness between the siblings and between Teresa and Melissa, which I have always said, I don’t think the gorgeus are innocent, innocent. I think it takes two to tango. And we’ve watched that for years. They were back and forth. But I think that they didn’t agree with the marriage, and they didn’t think it’s what was best for her. Yeah. So. And Teresa’s just in her love bubble, and burying her burying her head in the sand inside this love bubble and not looking around at how he treats the people in her life. She did it with her first husband for many years. So yeah, well, yeah, interesting. That’s really I mean, of all the stuff. I didn’t see any of that come in around Bravo, Khan time. So I think that’s pretty good. And, you know, I sort of watch what I post with them, because they’re not so much them. Their fans are such like, hawks, or whoever runs those accounts. I don’t know if it’s them or whatever. I’d certainly not heard if it Tim his team, whatever. And they want to keep a lid on this. And the reality is, is speculating about something is speculating we weren’t there. They’re still doing the pod together. But I figured, you know what, if she really is gonna ditch this girl, we’re gonna know we’re gonna see she’s gonna have a new podcast. Or maybe she ditches the podcast altogether, which would probably be her best bet. I don’t think they have a huge amount of listeners, I don’t think it brings in a huge amount of money for her. And she is able to generate money in other ways, she probably makes as much on appearance as she does monthly on her pod. So for her, it’s not even worth it. Because they were doing great. They’d be doing more live shows and more appearances and stuff, but they’re not. And the reason for that is the reason they switch networks is because the numbers were great. Her dad is not as big a network as podcast one. So you know, that’s just what it is. I mean, if if she was doing great, and if she was generating great, great numbers podcast would have stayed, they wouldn’t have they would have paid for her to stay, they wouldn’t have let her walk and they let her walk. So she may wrap it up with Melissa and say, You know what, it was too much of a commitment weekly and I didn’t love it. And I’ve listened it doesn’t seem like she loves it. So that would be her best bet because she could be like it had nothing to do with Melissa it’s just my choice that I was done doing the pot right? Whereas if she continues on a pot on her own I can actually see them doing a couple pot like the two of them. Yeah, I was just literally just about to say that because again kind of going with this you know narcissistic pattern not saying he is not saying anything just seeing some things that seem to be a pattern. You know, that he I can see him saying Theresa like the two of us together like he let’s keep this in the family and you know, really the two of us would do so much better. And and totally they would because wouldn’t so many people tune in and out of morbid curiosity. I I would one switch is what I did with namaste bitches, but it just was not I couldn’t just not my cup of tea. You know, there’s a cup of tea out there for everybody. That one was not mine. Yeah, I agree. But I think we might have nailed it on the head. And she’s like love, Melissa. Love, love, love. But we wanted to do a couple’s pod about working through issues in a marriage because we have such a happy healthy union.
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that’s a good prediction. I’m going to make sure we know that Saturday, February 10. We’re recording this release that this prediction was made. Oh yeah.
Yes. Okay. Let’s talk about Vanderpump. So, this week, we got to see Sandoval is back. So he and Ariana are literally working through assistance to determine when one or the other can come out of their rooms. For an absurd so there’s this power struggle going on over his birthday. Tom was to have a party at the house. And he offers through an his assistant that he will get Ariana a hotel for the night. Ariana says absolutely not at first, but when and comes back to Ariana says that hey, there’ll be out by midnight. Ariana Ruelas Oh poor first of all justice for and there’s a rumor circulating that ad now works for Ariana. She’s pictured in our team Ariana cheerleading outfit. I believe all of it. By the way. Did you know she has a podcast too? And it’s called? Yeah, it’s called like, I signed an NDA or something. Hold on. I got my day. Isn’t that funny? And I can only imagine. We’ll have to look this up. I meant to look this up. And I totally forgot because I’m on cold medicine today. But yeah, apparently she has her own podcast, too. I’m kind of interested to hear what she has to say. So okay, so despite about him having the party it all goes back to everyone’s everyone’s thing where they’re like, Why the hell is she living there? And then there’s this whole
overriding issue of Is she not paying the bills? He’s saying she hasn’t paid them. She’s saying on the after show. She wants an itemized bill.
It has us all confused because
T Mariana Oh, always, but she should know what her mortgage and taxes cost as they’re both owners.
So by her saying she wants an itemized bill. It seems like she doesn’t like she didn’t have her eyes on the bills back when they were together.
I’m married many years I wholly trust my husband. But we both have access to all bills, we can both see what’s up how much we owe what our expenses are. Yeah. You know, it’s, it’s my thought is this. I feel like in a couple, right? There’s some nights maybe somebody likes to, you know, cook more, and the other person likes to do the dishes, right? Like, there’s definitely you kind of figure things out based on, you know, what, especially when it comes to chores, right, who mines it the least and often there’s like a more financially fiscally gifted person in the relationship who, who takes that on, right. But both people in the couple absolutely must have access. And even if the other person who’s not doing the bills isn’t seeing everything monthly, couples should sit down quarterly to talk about where the money is going, how you’re progressing on goals, because, you know, we talk a lot about, you know, if somebody cheats and you know, is lying to their spouse or whatever, but I think the last talked about instance of where this can really go wrong if you don’t have that access, and you don’t know where all this stuff is is what happens if one partner passes away unexpectedly, right or the other partner needs to know you know what
bills are on auto pay and which ones are not. And, you know how, how to manage all of that. So it’s funny you say that because my husband not that long ago made like a Google spreadsheet, not even have it has all of our joint stuff, which I’m obviously aware of all of that. But it also has like his personal accounts and investments and all different things. And I’m like,
I’m like, this is more, but he’s like, listen, in the event that it happens, obviously, you could go through all my paperwork, you can figure it out, because I have access to all of that, like the file cabinet. He’s like, but wouldn’t it be easier to know I have this here. I have this here. I get this much life insurance from this. This like that kind of thing? Yeah. So obviously, it makes sense. And so we sat down, and we did that for all of our personal stuff. Because honestly, we have joined and we have separate and I don’t, yeah, yeah, I don’t know, every dollar he has invested. He invests in a lot of stuff and whatever, but he’s not whatever. But he has his own money. I have my own money. We came in with our own sort of things like whatever it is, but the fact that on the after show, she said something like I realized before she realized about the affair, she realized that Tom was overcharging her for their expenses. So he was in charge of the finances. And he was saying, You owe me X amount this month. And somehow she realized he was asking her for more money. That’s such a violation of trust. And I can’t imagine, like our mortgage is pulled from our joint accounts. So I see that right. Right. But let’s say that it wasn’t that and I just somehow one day, opened the mail and saw that the mortgage was 2000. And he had told me it was 5000. I’d be like, Where the hell is the extra 3000 going? Left? And,
and like at that point.
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Right but I can also see a scenario where Tom explains it to her like I’m just taking this out of my part of the equity you just have to have to cosign because you’re the co owner and you know that there’s nothing about you know, debt can have priority, right so like if there is a mortgage and there’s a second mortgage, the first mortgage has priority in the debt if something were there to sell the house or whatever, that’s what’s supposed to get paid off first. And you know, maybe I Anna just didn’t you know because I’m
playing devil’s advocate
Get here. If she is not thinking of like, well, what would happen if we broke up? Right? It doesn’t even have that anywhere in her head. She’s just taking him at face value. She’s looking at the loan terms. And she’s seeing Tom’s name on there first, then right, you know, like, live and learn, but not right. There is a point where,
and I don’t know, maybe
there’s a point where if my husband tells me something, right, and I know he’s done an expert audit, and I’m not an expert on it. Then I say to him, like, let’s talk to our accountant. Let’s speak with an attorney who does this line of work. Let’s do you know what I’m saying? I agree. If my husband came to me, and he was like, I want to buy a investment property, right? Yeah. I don’t know a lot about it. But I know a lot of people who are doing it and they you know, they do it on Airbnb, I would want to speak with professionals, I would want to speak with real estate professionals, I would want to sit down with my husband so that we fully both understood what we were getting involved with. Right. Right. Like I refinanced when more when rates dropped. Yeah. And when I did that, I spoke with a professional in the field who came to my house, my husband, and I sat down, and he clearly explained everything, what it looked like, what it would do for us what the pros were, what, right, so I wouldn’t just say to Mike, like, I wouldn’t say to my husband, hey, the rates are lower, I’m gonna refinance, here’s the paper, sign it, and that has nothing to do with he doesn’t trust me, it would be like, Okay, well, that sounds like a good idea. But you and I are not mortgage professionals. So let’s talk to somebody who is so that we fully understand what we’re doing. Right. Yeah. And that’s that that is I think it is a healthy approach. One person takes point, you know, you took point on finding the mortgage person or whatever, but then you both had the conversation. And that, to me feels. And it also feels like Tom had a lot of these conversations. Yes, it was his business. But the second thing you implicate your home, it is now both of your, so if he like, he left her out of a lot of parts of it. And I guess the point that people are making is it isn’t all on him. And I have to agree with that. Yeah. Whether you it’s not about trust, it’s about your partner can make a mistake financially and have nothing to do with them wanting to cheat you out of money. It can do with them. We got a bad investment. Right? Or Yeah, right. Yeah, buying a car and are really way too high interest rate, and not taking the time to research what it should be like things like that can happen. Right? Yeah. So but we see so we saw this conversation, interestingly enough on Beverly Hills where Kyle was like, this week, she’s like, I know nothing about our finances. I just signed who knows if I’m signing my life away.
And so Ariana, obviously was in a similar arrangement. A lot of people were saying, like, in my DMs Oh, but Kyle’s not of a different generation, but she’s been married 28 years. And, you know, Ariana is a millennial, so she should know better. I also highly should know better, too. But Kyle also has protections in place. Yes, good or bad, right? Because, you know, being married does provide you some, you know, legal protections, it doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get 50% of everything. But, you know, you’ve got to go to a settlement. And you know, the courts going to the court, because the law is that once you’ve been married, and especially over 10 years in California, it is everything can be considered equitable. And so she has that protection. The only problem is, is if she’s signing papers without really paying attention. We know somebody else who we’ve already spoken up tonight, today that I got into a lot of trouble doing that. Right. And first of all, I like to share that a lot of our listeners and followers are the people fully in charge of their family’s finances. So they may be duping their husbands now.
But somebody,
a follower pointed out to me, which was very important. And something that hadn’t crossed my mind. They said that a lot of this is based on socio economic situations, right? Because people who are on a tight budget are much more likely to know exactly what’s coming in and what’s going out. Whereas those with disposable income as all of these people, because remember, like, especially Tom and Ariana, when they’re filming and they have partnerships long before their breakup, you sometimes have like windfalls of money coming in and so like if you leases some dopey car or whatever, you’re kind of not paying as much attention because they do partnership deals. I’ll have like a one time payment, things like that, that it’s not like they’re both on a fixed income, meaning they’re both getting a paycheck.
Every month, that’s always the same. I mean, maybe they are through Vanderpump. But there’s a lot of other streams of income coming in as well. And a lot of families, there’s two string, you know, one or two streams of income, right. And it’s a paycheck, and some people get bonuses. Some people don’t. But it’s a much more steady situation. So like, the more disposable income you have, the more likely maybe you are to not pick up on it, which totally makes sense. Yeah, i Yeah. i Yeah. You just got one thing I want to talk about. Yes, guys, like what we were saying just meet quarterly, just just to just touch base and make sure that like, you know, listen, and it’s uncommon, it’s sometimes it’s uncomfortable. And this is just speaking, like, from a personal standpoint, I have my own credit card, I have my own money, I have my own sources of income, right. So I do not check with my Listen, I’m not I’m not buying a vehicle without him knowing. Right. But certainly, like, I just bought myself a coat a nice coat. And I didn’t say to him, whatever. And so like when you have to sit there and he’s like, wait, you paid how much for that coat? Because our Yeah, you should be checking in quarterly just to know what’s coming in and what’s going out and everything. And I think people avoid it, because it’s uncomfortable sometimes. Yeah. You know, I know I have. I feel like well, yeah, I did a little shopping yesterday at a high end store. And it’s definitely one of those things. I’m like, I don’t want anybody to know how much I just spent on right, three items of clothing.
Or even sometimes when you do your hair or your whatever, you know, you’re spending a little more, but you’re like, it’s been a rough week. It’s worth it. Yeah. Well, and like, I mean, being a girl, you know, like, at least I for me, like, I get nails, I get air, I get lashes, and that’s, you know, every hair is you know, every other month or so. But like all the other stuff is, you know, every other week or every three weeks, so it adds up but it’s one of the things that I like that just makes me me just like the clothes that I wear and and whatever and like I can afford it. I wouldn’t be doing it. If I were going into debt to do it. Of course, you know. So, okay, I want to talk about the absurdity of Santa vols birthday party. Oh my god.
First of all, James showing up to Sandals birthday and being like, Who are these losers? Not knowing anyone are all thinking we’re like, Who are all these losers? And he basically he’s like, this guy has no friends. Who are these people or these hired people? Or no one is enjoying sandals fall from grace more than James Kennedy. Yeah. And then Sandoval immediately blames James for hooking up with Kristin 10 years ago. He says it wasn’t 10 years ago but of course the editors pop it on the screen and it says like 2013 and 2023 Yeah, I be That was classic deflection because he he aggressive in break didn’t hook up James and Kristen didn’t hook up until after she and Sandoval broke up anyway so like what’s he so butthurt about? I don’t get it. Right he’s not he’s just deflecting he’s deflecting at because I mean the man cannot I you know, having listened to the vile files episode, the man cannot take responsibility for putting on his shoes in the morning. Like he just cannot. The other part I thought was kind of funny about it. Is it Ali was there but just sitting out in the car? Yeah. But you wouldn’t come in and then when he’s king of the bush he’s like this Ariana is bush to
just make like, I was like, that made me like her. So much more and like when they’re I don’t know, I’m really enjoying Ali. These other people we’ve never seen other than Billy Lee the baby shower balloons.
Oh my god. It was yeah, definitely probably not the same kind of birthday that Tom Sandoval is used to.
Definitely not. Well, I was wondering I was like and also him being sober at the party. It seemed to me like he was only sober for filming. I just don’t believe he was sober.
So breather and we know that he has been out seeing at like bars and clubs drinking so you know maybe there was a short period of time where he decided to make a show out of being sober. And another thing viewers notice because the viewers when every time summer moons that pretty girl with the highlight that like pink ready highlights. So the nanny who’s friendly with Sheena that young girl is the girl we see in the trailer kissing both Tom and Katie that love triangle that we’re gonna see later in the season. It’s freaking summer moons now I totally picked it up because the hair I mean, but let me
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I think to bring in a new face to the show. I think she’s very pretty. I think she’s you know, wanting to have a singing career. I wonder how much truth there is to it that there was really a love triangle. Yeah, I guess we’ll see. But you know, the other thing that just makes me feel like the whole thing is fishy is you know if the nanny is really a nanny Sam or moon, she’s probably not going to be out when all the Vanderpump people are out, out drinking and doing whatever because
right she should be watching any summer moon and so she can go out but again, seems a little fishy to me. But I guess we’ll see. And then I think you brought this up on Bravo and cocktails on the Instagram this week. But I was like That is such a frickin Good point. Why is nobody acknowledging that Sandoval and Rachel and Tom Schwartz all tried to make Katie, the villain last year in like, and then this whole time they were using that as like a shell to cover for the affair with Santa ball. And I know we spoke about it on the pod as the season was airing. Like once we knew about scandal like oh my god, particularly Schwartz, like I can’t believe shores pretended and made out with her and pretended to care all the time knowing that she was having an affair with Sandoval, even at the reunion it wasn’t mentioned. Yeah, but you know what? Karma is the best revenge. Katie’s life is going great. And the other three are currently sharing seats on the struggle bus. Yeah, I think Katie has really come into our own. I think she looks amazing. You know, it sounds like she’s doing some dating. I listened to her and Dana’s new podcast. Oh, disrespectfully or what is it was called something like that. And it’s really good. It was good. I liked both of them. So I thought it was good. I like I always liked data. I’ve heard her on other podcasts and stuff, too. I enjoy her. So I think she’s got like a little bit of a hard edge. You know, where she won’t let people she’s not a pushover. You know what I mean? Like, I think I think she’ll be interesting to listen to. Okay, so I want to talk about this lunch with Lola and Ariana where they sit down, and Lala is kind of questioning. Ariana has choice to give Sandoval a hard time about about the party and about not moving in or moving out. And all of this like, tell me what you think. I feel like Lila should get it more than anyone else. You know, when Lala split with Randall, she was very clear, no, no mutual friends. But here she is calling Rachel who she never liked and was never friends with it’s not like they fell out. You know what I mean? They’ve grown up because of this. In the case of Sheena. We see her somewhat siding with Sandoval. It’s all seems very hypocritical. I can’t help but think that Ariana having moved on with her new boyfriend Dan fairly quickly. And more importantly, having so much success Dancing with the Stars Broadway partnerships makes Lala feel like kind of like oh please stop being upset at at sandable
like with Lala like you moved out of the house.
But you had no ownership in it. They were she, if they were renting, like I mean, Ariana and Sandoval, and there weren’t millions of dollars on the line. And Ariana chose to stay in the home. That would be super strange. Right? I, so I feel a little differently. I think that so yes, I, I think that I think LA LA could be not so much citing with Sandoval but more like trying to, like gently point out to Ariana and trying to help her move on. Like, by kind of pointing out without saying it. Like, why don’t you let go of some of this, if you’ve really moved on, you wouldn’t care so much. Right? Like, same conversation we hear with Lisa and Lenny, you know, like, yes, it’s it’s really so raw, and you’re really so like, maybe your Mater about this, and maybe you haven’t gotten past this, in actuality, which is what I think she’s kind of more trying to point out, I think she’s just trying to do it a little gently. And, you know, and just saying, you know, it’s, it seems reasonable that Tom could have a party in his own house. And it does seem to me and I’m just gonna say it, that Ariana is being a little I think she is being a little difficult about the house because to me, if I were like, This is where all this shit went out. I would be like, I want to move out I would pay for it. So that it’s clear that I’m not abandoning the property right so that right calm can’t make any claims like that. But like live in your own space, take the deal from Tom, you know, negotiate with Tom, like, don’t just take whatever deal he gives us. But like, and get out of the space and get it out of your like, system. Like, I feel like staying there is perpetuating this negative energy and she just wanting to do this like game of chicken with Tom, where it’s like it’s staying in the same space. I agree with what you’re saying. It’s how can you move on when you’re still physically in this space with him? Right? It’s right. Yeah, and she’s doing it by choice because there’s this it’s not like she’s worried legally, she could lose like, you can totally in a situation like that. You can paper it, where it’s like, okay, Ariana is gonna move out. You know, here’s the financial, you know, agreement. If we are selling and here’s the financial agreement. If Tom is buying her out, I just, I can’t understand. I can’t I don’t get her not wanting to just start fresh. Yeah, I think that she’s, I think that she’s trying to run him out. But at what expense? Like, hey, you’re you’re causing yourself your own sanity. And she’s with this new guy. Clearly she is not ready based on what we’re seeing. She’s not ready to be in a new relationship at the you know, during filming.
See, I’m curious to what her like birth sign is because I was talking my the person who does my hair is also an astrologer. And we’ve gotten this whole conversation in certain signs are much bigger grudge holders, and I kind of I’m like, I wonder because I’m like this just feels like a grudge at this point. To me at least a cancer. She’s a cancer. Okay, I don’t know if they’re grudge holders or not. I think they might be I don’t know she’s clearly holding a grudge in this situation. I think I’m one of those people who cannot it says cancer to cancers occasional stubbornness shows their need to uphold tradition they don’t like change or surprises the other the only other time you might see a cancer gets Stubborn Stubborn is when they feel someone has wronged them because they’re so sensitive cancers tend to hold long grudges All right there we have it we are now astrology astrology account.
I don’t know I listen, I’m with you. I certainly would not want to be in the same space and she has so much going on speaking of which everybody is saying oh something about her is never opening a follower told me so I can’t share exactly what company this person works for. But let’s just say that like you know, meal delivery services GrubHub seamless all that kind of stuff. Yeah. So what they told me was Ariana is friend Logan is listed as the General Manager and everything set to go live on their point of sale system. So like, you know, those online delivery services. Interesting. So he’s so they’re ready to go live otherwise, and the opening delays are because of construction delays and permit issues. That’s yeah, that’s I don’t believe it’s happening. Yeah. And we saw on the show, they hired a CEO to run the restaurant. So Ariana being in New York in that case should not be set. What is holding up holding up the restaurant opening? I think we’ve all seen that happen where permitting and stuff hold stuff up? Yes. You know, just read government red tape. So very interesting.
And oh, so we also got that little BIT bit of tea that Raquel was seen in New York City. So on February 1, actually somebody I know like in real life who follows Bravo and cocktails messaged me. And they said that she said that her husband spotted Rachel at the refinery Hotel. I’m sharing the hotel now. I did not at the time because she’s no longer staying there. So anyway, recap. Rachel joked with somebody when they asked why she was in New York, she said she was going to see Chicago so at the time I posted I was like, Wait, oh my god, is she but it was pretty clear. It was her version of a joke stand some people when I posted that speculated maybe she was there to meet with Bethany. But now obviously, we see she walked in a New York Fashion Week show. I think it was an odd joke. Like in every interview, she says she wants everyone to forget about it, make it go away. But it’s she’s making it her punch line when she meets fans or people who watch the show. So it sort of contradicts everything she says about wanting to move on. She’s got a podcast basically dedicated to it. Yeah, no kidding. At the show. It was. Let’s see, I’m here with ng Joey at Joe Johanna Gaudi by Johanna Hernandez, but I’m looking at this dress she’s wearing. I mean, I think she looks she eautiful Yeah, yeah. And it’s like very pageant dress, so it kind of fits her. And why wouldn’t a designer want her in their show? You’re gonna pass seats. Of course. You know, I think the I think the other thing is too, you know, Sandoval has a whole show and restaurants like this girl is entitled to move on and make a career for herself. I think it’s because she kind of goes back and forth between saying I’m not going to be in the public eye anymore and then going into the public eye but she’s somebody who like she’s wishy washy. She can’t decide what she wants. We know that you spent after investing billions to light up our network. T Mobile is America’s largest 5g network. Plus right now you can switch keep your phone and we’ll pay it off up to $800 See how you can save on every plan versus Verizon and AT and T AT T mobile.com/across. America.
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sel so Beverly Hills. I for what I really enjoyed these episodes when they are in Spain. I mean the trip the trip episodes I feel like are always some of the best. And then this week’s we had the you know spreading of the ashes and you know kind of wrapping up the spaceship and the flamenco dancing. What did you think Mercer is no longer in the purse?
So during this episode, I sort of had an epiphany about durian. Kyle. Yeah. Because Kyle seems so over Dory. Yes. really obvious, and has been obvious. And then it reminded me that Kyle and Dory really became close during the Lisa Vanderpump drama during puppy gate.
They both fell out with Lisa at that time. Lisa turned her back on Kyle and Dory. And yes, Dory and Kyle had fun partying together and they had fun as couples. But I’m starting to think that the bond for Kyle was the common enemy and she held on to that resentment for so long and being close with Dory kind of they bonded over that it kind of kept sticking it to Lisa, maybe it wasn’t really a true bond for Kyle because she seems to really be over it
in the car like when Dory was
saying to her Oh, I didn’t know about all these project you’re doing she’s like, Yeah, I haven’t told anybody and to reach like anybody like, I’m just anybody now. And then she’s like, do I need to tattoo your initial on my body to get you to tell me things? Yeah, yeah. And then kind of did speak with her a little bit about her marriage, but it seemed fairly surface level.
And we’re all watching Kyle do this dance about her marriage and it said and it looks painful.
So yesterday, Kyle reposted so in one of the scenes when they’re driving.
She’s Kyle is looking at to reach phone and Kyle covers the camera so the camera can pick up a text message from PK. So a fan account or view or whatever, reposted and said I wonder why Kyle covered the camera? Could it be heated messages from PK? Kyle screenshot that shared it and put big eyes. So Kyle is clearly spreading, encouraging it. Yes. I’ve heard in the discourse that they’re split because Dury isn’t addressing it, although we’ve heard from multiple sources that PK has said their split cell. Yeah, well, I think I think it could be also jury wanting to have a storyline next season. Like the timing. We you and I’ve talked about this right that the timing would make sense. This is a season about Kyle’s marriage. And then, in theory, its mind next season would be about hers. If she gets a next season. Yeah, I mean, maybe she’s hoping this will help her. I don’t know. I still really enjoy watching to read. I do know, I like her on the show. Maybe she’s a friend of right. I don’t know. Okay, so, Camille,
who never seems to quite just go away. She always seems to kind of pop up. Every, you know, month or so has come out saying that she wants a Beverly Hills legacy show. Love the idea. But would LVP come back? I doubt it. I doubt Adrienne Maloof would, I think it would be fantastic if the original ladies all came together. Same with Atlanta, you know, I think it’d be great to do a legacy Atlanta. But the problem with both those cities is a couple of key players from each wouldn’t come either by their choice or that network wouldn’t have them. Right. So Camille, and I don’t know, Taylor, does not a show make.
Speaking of it, sorry. I just just gonna say I think the beauty of these ultimate girls trips is that there are an unlimited variety of themes we could do. We could do a Beverly Hills legacy, we could do an Atlanta legacy, we could do a mix of us and movies. You know what I mean? Like there’s there’s so many different combinations within the Bravo universe that, you know, let’s just face it. We would watch no matter what. So I wouldn’t rule that out. I think, you know, who knows what’s going on with the future? The ultimate girls trips given that lawsuit about Morocco. Yeah. And there’s a lot of chatter about that. We’re never seeing that show. It is what it is. And that’s okay. So speaking of legacy, there were these New York rumors, and I don’t even think I took the time to address it on the pod because it was never an actual thing that the OGS were going to be cast full time to be on the Rube reboot, right? It was never a consideration from the network from production. I think that there were people who would like it to happen. But the network was not interested. It would have been like two competing casts well, because like, we know that Dorinda and Luann Sonia have all made inroads to some of the women but it would be I don’t know, it would feel a little discontented to me disjointed having them all come together? I don’t know. Maybe like one comes to a party or something. So with the rebuilt Aaron from the reboot called the legacy show cute.
Apparently I can I saw that. I saw steam coming out of a couple of OGS ears. Yeah, yeah. And she Deronda was not pleased commented said she was offended and surprised and that it was a rude thing to say. So okay, Erin posted and reply to during this comment saying oh, I overuse the word cute. I just meant that it was fun in a light hearted kind of way. Many feel it was condescending, including Kristen tape Ben who pushed into real going in on Aaron you know I don’t remember like loving Kristen this much but I’m really liking her as a grown ass woman be
cuz she’s cool. She’s funny. I like the content she puts out. I do think I watched Aaron’s interview and I’m a big fan of Erin. Yeah, I think she was throwing shade at them. I think she was Yeah, yeah. Now we don’t need them. Yeah, the show was queued. It ran its course. Yeah. Watch a little bit of it. It was cute. Would it make sense? condescending way to put it? Yeah, yes. That this is the thing you can like. I’m like Aaron, while also recognizing Aaron is a 36 year old girl from Manhattan. She grew up wealthy. She has a lot of wealthy friends. Her husband’s a big shot attorney. Her parents are big shot in real estate. She’s a privileged, beautiful woman from New York City. So you can like her on the show. You’re getting, she’s gonna say things that are rude and that are obnoxious. Like, you know what I’m saying? And so with the new women, it’s always like a hard balance. Because when I post stuff, then then you got to deal with like, people be like, Oh, you don’t like so and so. Right? I like I like every one of the New York City women, but I think like Aaron, I think sigh I think Jessel I think that they have their attitudes and they think who they are in the same way. Luann and Dorinda and Sonia always have to like their right quote unquote socialites or what have you they’re not regular girls from New York City there there’s a reason there are cameras following them whether we knew them or not. They’re known in in the suit you know, in the important circles in New York City. So yeah, with that comes a hoity toity attitude. Well and Aaron knows what she’s doing she knows that if she in an interview says you know Oh, I look up to these women they paved the way so that you know the reboot can happen that’s not gonna get any press you know if she says something suddenly shady that is gonna get ya talking I need it was exactly what she’s doing. And guess what? She also means it like she first season they did say those kinds of things. But now believe me when I tell you these women very much think oh geez are forgotten about where the girls like they think that way. Delusion is what makes good housewives and it’s not delusional because in their microcosm of in their little world right now. The cameras are on them like Jessel posted something what a year January has been in a turn on the cover of magazine and her out at fancy dinners and heroic golfers and
you know, Lights Camera Action. They’re getting a lot of attention. Everybody wants them on their podcast, every brand wants to partner with them. They’re all beautiful. They’re I don’t want to say young but they’re you know, they have young families. They’re getting attention at their kids schools there. And believe me, I know because I hear from all their kids private schools. I know exactly who and what what I know that Aaron avoids playdates with a lot of people who aren’t up to par with her hit after all of that and to be expected. None of it shocks me. It should shock anybody that they’re a little obnoxious. She’ll think Jessel is a little obnoxious. I got that first episode doesn’t mean like her. It’s what makes a good housewife. I totally agree. So speaking of people who know what they’re doing, and the public spotlight, I wanted to circle back to you know, our big story from a couple of weeks ago, which was Luann and Joey bottles from southern hospitality hooking up. So sounds like we did get some scoop on that reunion. Okay, so some of you guys are still asking me, How do we know that? Danielle? Went home early? Well, we know it because Luann actually said it to the press. Okay. When she pretended to be surprised. There are paparazzi there that were called by her PR agent to come. Right. That’s how we know. Now we got to at the southern hospitality reunion. The bombed that was, you know, somebody called it a bomb and was asking me what it was what it was, was Joe did discuss the hookup with Luann. And while he didn’t say yeah, I banged her. He did not deny it. Yeah. Now the other situation is apparently TJ calls Joe a fuck boy and he’s crying. TJ is very upset with him. I don’t know if we get more details on that. I heard it was a personal reason, whatever that means. But southern hospitality is coming into its own Joe Bradley and you were saying this for the second he kissed before he made out with Danielle. We were told Amanda that he wants to follow Craig and Austin’s template. He wants to crossover with other Bravo stars. He wants. He’s a young guy lives in Charleston. He sees the success they’ve had. He wants it for himself. Tada. That’s what he’s doing. Yeah. I mean, I yeah, I mean, I think it’s pretty clear and he does not come off as a
smartest person, but it’s quite clear that that’s what he’s doing. And I also think to like, having watched the show, which I’m very, very much enjoying, by the way, Southern, I’m liking this season much better than I liked last season. So I think part of the reason is I think they are all real friends. Right. But I think what some of some of what’s going on is Joe kind of plays both sides, right, he shows part of a text message to Maddie, but doesn’t show her the entire chain, which also shows him going off because there’s this group chat that’s going on. It doesn’t also show him kind of doing the same thing that he accuses others in this group chat and shows Maddie about as well. So it could just be that there’s, I think there’s some animosity, because I think they have some real, they do have real friendships, you know, and will was all upset because Joey bottles, just decides to become a machine’s best friend and will and TJ and the rest of the guys all feel a little left behind. And I think that what we’re going to see is something that happens with every reality show in the first couple seasons. And you’re going to see people like Joey bottles, choose fame and reality television success over people they were friends with prior. Right. And if Joey bottles in the eliminate limited capacity his brain seems to have
I’m only teasing. He’s a dopey guy. All right.
He might be a lot smarter than he than he is. He just doesn’t come. They’re also the most intelligent at the time. So it’s like yeah, too. I mean, his name is Joey battles. Like he might have determined at some point like, oh, Sheen is going to be a bigger star on the show that will Oh, she’s single. Oh, she is it? Oh, she Oh, Sheen. Yeah, oh, she’s single. I can we can wing man with each other. We can sort of do the Austin crowd. I’m telling you. He wants to follow the Austin Craig template. I was told by a source. So maybe he sees a machine as the guy who could have a successful podcast with him. Yeah, a guy who when they get enough money up to invest in a bar in Charleston, which I’m sure is a goal or some sort of right business in Charleston. He would want to be the Tom to his Tom, do you know what I’m saying? Yeah, Annie is following a script that was written by Vanderpump Rules that was written by Southern charm. And I’m not faulting him for it. I’m just saying it’s pretty obvious. Yeah. You know, with with the didn’t yell tried to cross over. I think that we’ll see Joey bottles hook up with another Bravo lab. Oh, you know what I’m saying I’m done. He’s pitched winter house is not filming this season. And I do think he’s gonna have success because I think that he is a person who was willing to do what he needs to do to make a show interest a like a male machina. And it makes for good TV. You don’t have to like him. You don’t have to think he’s a stand up guy. I mean, he’s a fuck boy, who’s not a great friend who wants to be wealthy and famous. Lindsey Hubbard, the house, that’s maybe his that’s who’s gonna go after next. Well, if Lindsey does that, and now that her and Danielle are made up, that would be really fucked up. Oh, it would be everything we see. Lindsay’s in Nashville she bought an investment property Good for her. She’s obviously partnered with some furniture company because she keeps posting them I guess they’re gonna furnish her house for free. Some people speculate they say in Nashville you can’t run an air b&b If you don’t occupy the resident Nashville people hit me up something like that a certain amount of time so I don’t know how she’s getting around that so yeah so public I mean if you’re not a public person if you and I invested in a property there who would know but right well good for her a lot going on in the Bravo world we you know guys, we are on cocktail pagans going to talk about some traders stuff without doing spoilers. I’m not doing spoilers on trade. I I honestly, I told my source who sends me stuff I was like, I don’t want to know. I really don’t know. At the beginning he sent me while I knew who was going to be audit and then he sent me stuff but I deleted it and I don’t remember. And I mean CT and Phaedra though.
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