149. NOLA takedown; Is Tamra coming back? RHOA is back!

What went down in New Orleans with the Real Housewives of Orange County cast trip? Is Tamra really leaving Housewives? Atlanta is back and we’re seated. Porsha is back and shares a little about why she filed for divorce from Simon Guobadia. Shamea, her ride or die, now has a peach and we think she’s going to have a breakout season. The new cast members are spicy and have a lot going on…and is Drew getting too close for comfort with Dennis, Porsha’s ex-husband and father of their daughter? The Valley trailer dropped and it’s looking just as chaotic as we expected given the behind the scenes tea that we’ve been sharing. Summer House’s Danielle: Is she just a mean girl?

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we’re going to spill the tea. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from Bravo and cocktails.com and as always, it’s all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I’m B and I’m Amanda. Let’s get into this week’s tea. You XT,
what’s up? Cocktailers Amanda, how are you feeling? Hi
guys. Hi B for those of you guys who don’t know what happened, I ended up getting my appendix out last Friday. So I literally, I was just starting to tell B, I’m like, I’ll just save it for the pot. So I literally finished some work after we record, usually on Thursdays, finished some work. I got up and then, like, immediately bent over, like, double because I literally felt like I had the worst cramps I had ever had. Oh, and I literally, I told my husband, I’m like, we might need to come up with a safe word. I have a feeling I’m gonna turn into, literally, the PMs bitch from hell based on the level of these cramps. And took Advil, whatever, and it was not pleasant. Went to bed. It woke me up at three in the morning, and the pain had moved to my bottom right side. I wake up my husband. I’m like, I there’s, I think there’s something wrong. And I was like, Where is your appendix? He’s I think it’s bottom right. And so then we call the nurse hotline. The nurse is like, Yeah, I think, based on that, you need to go in. And so we went to the hospital 4am and by 4pm that day, I was in surgery. Now, were you
in pain from 4am to 4pm or did they give you something to
no so I have this thing about I hate being hooked up to anything. Freaking. Hate it, but it makes me feel claustrophobic. Weirdly. Okay, so they but they had to, because they had to, like, take blood, give me an IV because I couldn’t drink anything. And yeah, they gave me, I was trying to, like, stay away from the morphine, just because I’m, like, scared shitless of opiates, yeah, but then I didn’t have a choice. They’re like, we’re giving it to the second time they gave it to me. So I had three different times they gave me pain meds throughout, because it was bad. And then, yeah, the surgery. And then I think I got out. How long is the surgery for that? I think mine took long, longer than it was supposed to. I have super low blood pressure. Oh, good. Never like, I mean, I’m defying all of my own HIPAA laws here, you know,
weird, I have low. I don’t have super low, but I have low, like, I’m on the lower side of blood pressure as well. Like, I’m always, like, 110, over 70 or something,
yeah. And so I guess my blood pressure went really down. And, oh, anyway, I heard the nurses talking about it kind of valued up, but oh god, yeah, it was fine. It’s fine. Like, I was in great hands. And was your husband able to be in the room where he had to wait outside, he had to wait. So I was up. I They had checked me into an actual, like, inpatient hospital room, and so he could have come down for pre op, and then he would have had to go back up and, like, just stay like, this has been. A crazy day for you. And so, yeah, but what was really funny is I was talking to the nurse, like, during pre op, because I was like, it was getting late, and there’s no 24 hour pharmacies where I live, there’s one, I don’t know, two hours, like, hour and away. And so I was like, Maybe I should just send him out to the pharmacy now. So I have the nurse call him, because I don’t have my phone, and he doesn’t pick up the phone, he’s thought it was a spear call. And I was like, Did I tell her the right number? I’m like, because I’m like, am I a little bit loopy on this medicine? Yeah, anyway. So yeah, no, it’s I’m totally fine. I was dying to come home that night, so I didn’t let them keep me overnight. And so I am fine. I’ve just been like, every day is better, and I’ve just been moving slowly. I can’t work out for four to six weeks, but so that’s a bummer. But I got cleared to cause I’m taking my kids on a trip next week, Frank break, so I appeared to do that. And I just wanted to say to everybody, thank you guys, so much so people, some people knew because of the newsletter. Because, yes, I like sitting in the hospital bed. I’m like, Oh crap, the newsletter because I hadn’t finished it, because I was planning on finishing it.
Yeah, this is what she texts me. She’s, hey, B, I’m having emergency surgery on my appendix. So about the newsletter? I was like, who cares about the newsletter? Are you crazy? She’s, should I try to finish it? I’m like, if you finish the newsletter, then I’m gonna come there and hurt you. Do not and the news. I’m like, the newsletter is so new that, yeah, but I people did notice, we appreciate you guys. They’re enjoying the newsletter. So if you aren’t signed up for the newsletter, you can subscribe at the bottom of com. Yeah, and I’ll also post the link again. That just brings you right to subscribe and check your spam. Because a lot of you guys are like, I signed up and it goes to spam. And we also have some weird Hotmail does not work for a lot of these things. So yeah, if you’re looking to avoid a lot of emails, sign up for Hotmail, but if you want to get emails some I used Yahoo forever, okay, ever. And I actually turned over to Gmail when I started this account. And I have to tell you, I’m not getting paid to say this, but I find Gmail for a free service, I find it to be fantastic. It’s very easy to find everything. And yeah, I feel like stuff that should go to spam mostly does. And I’m Tech challenges, you guys know, so when I need to, as an example, our newsletter went to a promotions thing. So I think Amanda told me how to do it, but it’s very easy to just move it over to like, your primary, yeah, so and our Hotmail retire
it, our Hotmail cocktails, we did put it in appeal, because you can get Hotmail is just notoriously known for blocking, and if you start, if you send out more than, I think it’s 300 emails in a day, and they’ll, Sometimes, they’ll just block you. So we
have, like, 10s of 1000s of the newsletters going out, which is why we love you guys.
Yeah, we’re not spamming anybody. It’s just, that’s just why anyway. But thank you guys for all of your well wishes. It’s been, it was like so nice people sell flowers and arrangements I have So Sue came over to gossip with me. I am just, I gotta tell you, I’m all I’ve been doing is watching television. So I am so excited to talk
to Oh, and you had a good lineup. We’re obviously getting to Atlanta,
because, yeah, we’re gonna get there. We’re gonna break it down. It’s so good. If you guys aren’t watching actually, just pause this podcast and go watch it and come back. So we’re going to talk about it. But the cast is all connected, some closely, like some a little bit more loosely, but they all know each other well, or they all know at least a couple other people in the group. Yes, it’s, I don’t know it’s giving like old school drama before we get into that, let’s first talk about what’s been going on with OC we know that the ladies of Orange County were filming on their group trip in New Orleans. You got sent some videos of it?
Yes, I minding my own business on Sunday evening. Sunday evenings, really, I need to clear my schedule. I was at a tournament all day Sunday, so I actually had to watch Atlanta on Monday, just because it was all day. It was cold, because we’re in fake spring in New York, where the day before, it was like 60 degrees, and I’m still shivering, so I’m like, came home, took a shower, parked myself in bed to catch up on all the DMS. And there they were videos of the whole cast pictures. So we had daytime pictures, and we saw everybody walking around New Orleans. They were at a parade. Then we get a video. I. Actually a couple videos of the entire cast, minus Jen pedantry. I just, whenever there’s a housewife named Jen, I feel I have to say the last name, because our generation, every other person is Jen. I
think I had five Jennifers in my yes kindergarten class six, to the point where a lot of the teachers were like, if you have a middle name that you like, you might want to go by that? Yeah.
Jennifer Ann, Jennifer rose, yeah. So Jen pedantry, Katie Janella and Gretchen were not in this video walking to dinner. We’re gonna assume those women were already there or showed up a little bit later, because we know that craziness ensued during the dinner. So I posted the videos on Sunday. I was like the ladies spotted on their trip in Nola. I posted the daytime. I posted the nighttime. I go to bed, woke up early in the morning, as I do. And Tamara judge has a story saying, essentially, I quit. I’m done with housewives. It’s been a great run, but over it,
yeah, and we knew from that those posts that it looked like the dinner was in an upstairs private room, which is why nobody’s got like footage or anything, right? What was actually happening during the dinner? Small of them, actually, yeah? So yeah, I saw the post that morning, and I immediately thought, because we knew this, right? We knew that there was probably going to be some kind of gang up on camera, because Tamara because of the bad blood that she’s had with Gretchen, or, I guess, history. I I don’t know if it’s it’s as bad, to say, as bad blood, but we also know, for those of us who listen to 2t in a pod, that Tamara has been really going through it, seeing her friend and co host Teddy Mellencamp go through so much, which, again, we’re still praying for Teddy. Teddy actually did announce that the tumors in her brain were are metastasized, and that she also had a couple of tumors in her lungs, but yeah, Tamara’s post essentially is now I’ve seen what real problems are, and it’s been a good run. See you. So I think a lot of us could extrapolate, okay, there was a gang up, and Tamara’s Forget it. There’s people with real problems. I’m over this.
What we received here, what we received from a source, and this is all like the next day after she posted the story about quitting, someone told me, people forget Gretchen is very well spoken and organized. She is not chaotic. Katie is a borderline attorney when she speaks, and even Jen pedantry when she’s been on Jeff Lewis live. She’s totally different. She’s very clear and concise. So if it was a takedown, it would have had great execution. We know historically, Tamara cannot handle a group confrontation, so like gathering the details, this is essentially what we hear happened, because we know that Jen pedantry is not a fan. Gretchen obviously has a history, and she is back to settle the score. And I think that Katie would go with them,
yeah, yeah. I think that all. I think that all makes sense. I do. I think Tamara can generally handle herself okay in a normal situation, but I think her mental health is really being impacted by seeing her best friend struggle. And I don’t think that we can completely negate what Tamara’s been going through, because I’ve been reading that people are like, she’s just using this as an excuse. Some cast members have been very understanding with her, and some haven’t. But I when you go through something like this, like anytime a good friend or family member is going through a really traumatic time, it is you’ve I always feel like, I feel the weight of it. I have a few friends. I’ve had a few friends like going through it lately, and I feel the weight of what they’re going through on me, because I’m always like, How can I help with with that? And so even housewives, even pro housewives, og housewives, hit their limit and have to protect their peace. So I whether we see her back or not, I think we’ll see
I agree with you. I had a lot of people DM me and said things like, Tamara hasn’t given people grace, and it’s her takedown season. Gretchen’s not gonna let go of the past just because Tamara’s friend is sick. I can see that point. Gretchen has real, true reasons to be obsessed with Tamra, I agree that we’re all human, and she’s going through something really shocking, hard, unexpected. Yeah, it’s her friend, but it’s a friend that’s very close to her. And I think that we also have to point out that they not only have a podcast, they have a podcast empire. So there are many people under their umbrella. They do several podcasts themselves, like that they’re on. They produce other housewives and reality stars podcasts. I have to imagine as an example, last season, when Tamara was busy with filming, Teddy probably picked up a lot of that slack, because Tamara now had a film. So rightfully, Teddy is in treatment, and rightfully Tamara’s picking. Up the slack. I’m thrilled to hear Teddy was back yesterday. They recorded together, and yes, they have producers who do the back office stuff, but it’s all of these things adding to Tamara’s stress. Hearing Jen Gretchen and possibly Katie came for her, she doesn’t have a strong ally either, so it isn’t like in years past, where she’s had Vicky or Shannon Shannon, although they may be getting along fine, she’s not gonna back her the way she would have in the past. I do not see Emily or Gina. Gina backing her in that capacity. We know that Gina posted a story herself right after Tamara posted business as usual, saying, I’m fine, I’m not ally. She chose to ride for Alexis the flat flop alino, and as a result, she’s on an island now, couple that with Teddy struggle, her Vetta company, her podcast empire. Do I think she’s actually going to quit? Do you think she’s actually going to quit?
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I don’t I think, I think Bravo is probably giving her a little bit of breathing room. I could see a situation where maybe Tamara’s, you know what, maybe I just want friend of this season, or maybe I need to take a little time off, because I think when she did quit, I think she was serious about it. I think it’s more gonna be a matter of them trying to talk her back into coming back in some capacity.
That’s exactly what a couple sources reached out to me, and they said people close to her are telling her, take a beat, let everything simmer down. Don’t make a rash decision, as we know she’s prone to do. Yeah, do I personally believe she’s going to leave housewives over this? I do not. I think that her hope is that she can somehow convince production to speak with the women and say, back off, take it easy. She’s going through a lot. I do not see a world where Tamara lets Gretchen win. So Gretchen has been gone all these years, in large part because Tamara really demolished her. Do we think Tamara when she simmers down after her blow up in Nola at dinner? I don’t think she’s gonna let Gretchen win the battle. That’s I don’t even think she’d go to a friend of because if she’s showing up, she wants to make the full check. Yeah,
I agree. And I gotta look, I gotta read back up. And we need our historian, archivist, yes, from babo, to remind me of all of the different things about Gretchen and Tamara. And I remember some of it, but I don’t remember a lot of it. And so I feel like I need to study back up on that. The other thing I think that is interesting about what’s going on with Tamra is we got a post that, or we got a we got something from a source, and then we posted it literally right before all this went down that Tamara is staying sober this season, last
season, Tamara blamed a lot of her attacking Shannon and her behavior on drinking too much. We also saw Eddie very unhappy about her drinking. Tamara has always claimed that she really doesn’t drink that much in real life here or there, but that when she’s filming, she tends to drink a lot to calm her nerves, and it affects her behavior. So she has blamed a lot of her bad behavior on drinking. Yeah, here’s the thing. She may have said this going into the season, but we all saw the pictures of her walking around during the day. She had the same cocktail in her hand as the other ladies. And I thought this, and so many of you DM me and said, Tamara is not the type to drink her calories. So that is not a mocktail. Tamara would either be drinking sparkling water or coffee or nothing like she’s not gonna, she’s not gonna swing by soft bar, Carl’s establishment, right? Yet to be open establishment. Have a 200 calorie Frappuccino, like, it’s not her style,
yeah, I think that’s a really, actually great point about the calories. I those big drinks that you get on the street at, like the Daiquiri bars and stuff in New Orleans. They’re all so sweet. I don’t see her actually drinking one of those at
all. It wasn’t that. It was like a plastic cup with what looked like vodka soda and a lime kind of thing, but they all had the same one. So yeah, it could have just been, it could have been club soda and a lime. It just, it had the look of a cocktail. And yeah, I think that she probably does plan on not being drunk every episode. But if you’re in New Orleans, like it’s not like she’s a sober person, you know what I’m saying? Yeah, you’re on a girls trip. You may throw back a couple, especially in light of Teddy’s health and everything else, just to get herself,
yeah, although I was gonna say it’s probably good for her to not drink, given everything she’s going through, because feel like alcohol just makes anxiety so much worse. So okay, so we mentioned this at the top of the show. So excited to talk about Atlanta. I don’t even know where to start, but we’ll start with Portia, because she is back and she’s bringing it. She opens up a little bit at the beginning of the show about her split with Simon. Talk about masterful editing when it was showing her going into the same divorce lawyers office. Why 11 years? I guess it was it apart. But what she says is she found out some there was some financial stuff that she found out. Plus, I think his citizenship, she’s I didn’t understand why we always had to go and stand in this weird line when we were at the airport and she, she said that she found this stuff out, and that she is really sad because she really loved him, so she feels like she was tricked and lied to. And there was something that really resonated with me that she said, Actually, later in the show about Simon and or maybe no, this was on Watch What Happens Live again, guys, I’ve been watching so much TV. So just she said, when a man, when you’ve had a bad history with men, when you have a man come into your life and he says things, and he literally does what he says, And he shows that His word is good. She’s it really disarms you, if you’ve had the kind of history. So she didn’t, she didn’t expect it. Luckily, smart girl, as we always say, Everybody should. She did get it prenup, and then she also says something on the show, like people will say that this is my karma, which that was really interesting, because I am wondering if she’s admitting that she got together with Simon when he was still with his wife, Fallon, who was on Atlanta. She met him through her even the editing showed headlines about Fallon and Simon divorcing, and then Portia and Simon being engaged, and those headlines were 12 days apart.
Portia has never admitted it. They both her and Simon have always maintained that Fallon and Simon were already split up. But Fallon has certainly, on many occasions, said on podcasts and social media that her and Simon were very much married, that Portia and Simon had an affair. I believe Fallon was already cheating, so it’s also cheating, so it’s a mess, but Porsche has always denied it. Simon’s always denied it. Regardless, they did get together very soon after him and Fallon split, Fallon was a friend of Porsche’s in a general way we all felt. And this is going back to when she first announced it. It was shady. Yeah, Kelly drops that when she’s at lunch with Shamia and Brit Edie. She said Portia took that girl’s man. Brit agrees and Shamia brides for Portia, she says she did not. So this is a storyline, and we are happy about
that. Yeah, yeah, like you said, I think we all think something went down. But it’s also fair to point out that at that time, there were the rumors that Fallon was cheating with the trainer, the bodyguard trainer,
some young, good looking guy who worked for them,
yeah, but it is, all of us can sniff something that it doesn’t smell quite right. In that situation. The question to me is like, why are we every Why is everybody fighting over Simon? Because Is he really that much of a
catch? Yeah, this is the thing. I think we all, including Portia and Fallon, assumed that he was wealthy and money can make a man more attractive to some women. Yeah. It’s no surprise that when his legal issues came to the forefront and she started to find out all of these things, his citizenship, his legal battles over the years, which, by the way, were very easily found on Google searches. Amanda and I did a deep dive last February when they filed for divorce. I believe it was episode 95 because I reposted it so if Portia had done her research on him, instead of just allowing his gifts and sweetness to her speak, she. Would have been able to find out people are as clear eyed or as but when everything came to the forefront publicly, she stated she had no option but to hide, to file from divorce, because whatever he was hiding from her or everybody, she outright said she filed to protect assets, and she also pointed out that they own the home together, 5050, and she’s pissed that she can’t film. So one of the reasons she was actually late for Shamia birthday party, which was not on the show, but said somewhere, maybe in a pod or something, was that she’s having to film at, I believe, her mom’s house, which is very far from where she lives, so it makes traveling around hard for
her. Yeah, also on Watch What Happens Live. She said, I didn’t realize this, that he is detained, meaning he is in a, in a, she didn’t say ice facility, but I’m imagining some sort of immigration facility
currently, because he hasn’t posted nasty things about her in a few days. No, Peter Thomas took up for her. I think he should worry about his own legal issues that one,
yeah, I didn’t realize that he was away somewhere.
And, yes, yeah, I had posted that he is detained by ICE. Yeah,
again, good for you for getting that prenup Porsche, even when it might have looked like going in that Simon had way more than she did. Something I wanted to bring up as we talk about Shamia is we got some questions on Discord. So when I said, Is this the same Shamia we have seen as Porsche’s friend on previous seasons? Which I get because we get to see this like vibrant, magnetic Shamia on this first episode, and we’re like, Wait, why didn’t we get to see this before? And yeah, that is the same Shamia. They have actually been friends since childhood. They show a picture of it on the show. Definitely the same person, her ride or dies. The question, I think everybody is wondering, is, why did it take them so long to make this Dynamo of a woman, a housewife and and she’s also rich honey, her she said her home when the year that they built, it was the second most expensive new build in Georgia that year, at $9 million
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I’m not sure why it took them so long. I do think that because she has a husband who’s very wealthy, sometimes it takes time for the wife to convince men of that status to do it. She also had a five has a five year old, and she has a newborn, so she may have been more focused on growing her family, not a newborn, excuse me, a 15 month old. So she may have been more focused on, like, growing her family, moving into her home, and now that she’s in the fancy home and everything, she was more open to being full time. Yeah, her house is insane. I’m obsessed. It opens the episode. Opens, we meet her kids, her entire extended family, like you said, she’s a dynamo. They’re there. They’re gonna be celebrating her birthday. She describes herself as an actress, a singer, a host. She’s definitely a familiar face, more so for me from the show, but I think locally in Atlanta, she’s well known. The money’s from her husband. He’s in HVAC, air conditioning, but like big time. She said airports. She’s if you’ve walked through an airport in this country or any other like that. Yeah. So her home doesn’t even have an address. It’s just Sterling Manor. So if you type it into ways or Apple Google Maps, it’s Sterling matter so pretty. Oh,
wow, the James Bond elevator that goes down into her closet. I we have never seen anything like that on housemates, nope. I mean, it’s and just even the like, little tiny bit of comedy when she’s I’m gonna go change real quick, and you see her, it’s like she’s got quite the journey. Just even get upstairs and into her closet. And I agree, I wonder, just knowing that she has been so focused on growing her family and. And then the 15 month old, who is born premature and has nurses around the clock because she’s had a bunch of surgeries, maybe she just didn’t want to do the show because she was so focused on, I agree on her family and she and her husband have married. Been married for 10 years.
I loved she cracked me up, describing how they first met, she blew up his bathroom. He still married her. She’s very funny. She’s a little self depreciating, yeah, so I like how she explained how she’s connected to the entire cast. So she’s definitely we had that Intel ahead of the season that expect her to be the main event, and so far, it’s definitely ringing true.
Yeah, I think she really is going to be that glue for the cast, and especially having new cast members come in, and that they actually all do seem to have real, genuine connections, which I think we all agree, tends to make for a better show. And then we have drew who is back, at first, I wasn’t quite sure why, and now I think I know why.
So we’re gonna have to hear about her divorce from that asshole Ralph. He’s still living in the basement for the time being. She’s gonna leave for some weekends. Like the whole thing is a mess, but the real mess, which shocked me, was,
yeah, her and Dennis Porsche’s baby daddy that they’ve been doing music together. And imagine I’m saying quote, unquote music, because obviously they have put out a song and but it sounds like there’s a she called him her guardian angel, or some angel on Earth. I forget what it was, but there’s maybe too close to her comfort is the correct term, yeah. And
Kenya. So Kenya goes over to visit. Drew, so we will see Kenya in the next six episodes, as per our source. And Kenya is, wait a minute, Dennis Porsche’s. Dennis Kenya points out like, why is he helping you with your music? Drew, he never put out Porsche songs. Yeah. And Dennis is thirsty. Brick claims that she once dated him. Oh, no, excuse me. Yes. Brick claims that she once dated with him and he brought her a diamond necklace. Kelly says she’s been in his DMS. They all say he’s been dating drew now we see Portia confront her at shamias party in a clip for next week. And Portia is really pissed off. She said, whatever. And I think obviously Portia can say she’s not mad if they’re hooking up, but the reality is, what she’s focusing on is we all have our families and our support systems. How dare you? And she asked production if she can break the fourth wall, how dare you ask him to film with you? He’s my on my team, which, yeah, I get it like, whether they’re together or not. This is Atlanta. She’s got to use Dennis, who’s a hot dog guy, to do her music.
And as a here’s what bothers me about that whole situation. Drew is going through a divorce of her very own poor cat and Dennis were never married, but having they were together, they had a baby. There’s always stuff. It’s always a very fine line in just trying to maintain the relationship, the co parenting relationship with and
drew works for Porsche’s hair company as one of her models ambassadors. It’s, like, really messed up. It’s and now myself that Porsche did marry her friend Fallon’s husband, and I’m like, Yeah,
I just, I would think I would put this a little bit also on Drew, though to be like Drew, okay, fine. You want to make some music with him, okay, fine, but like your angel on Earth, a business level professional relationship, because, again, especially with just kids and exes and stuff like that, it is such a, it is such a day by day relationship that doing anything that could disturb the peace for somebody who is supposedly your friend, that it’s that stuffed up, agreed. Brit is one of the new girls, so she is the so we see her Kelly and Shamia out for dinner, and they’ve all known each other for a while. So Brit is the quote, unquote video girl that and she talks about how she did a lot of music videos and magazine modeling when she was in high school. We also know that she eventually, later in the season, is the target of Kenya, when Kenya shows pornographic images of her at her hair salon events, and
we actually saw them already get into it. Kenya was a little she was cold. At her, she was cold, and then she was sassy. Said something about her ring. I personally find Brit Edie’s husband to be hot. I like his look. We just met him this episode. But yeah, I can see that they’re not going to get along right off the bat. So regarding Kenya, we know we’ll see her first six episodes. We did hear somebody told me that Kenya gets to have her say, I don’t know what that looks like. Is that confessionals at the end of the season. At some point, does she show up to the reunion? Do they do a little one on one interview with her? I have to ask a. On that. I’m not sure what they’re allowed to say or what they specifically know, but we’re told that she does get her say, although, watching her social media, she seems pretty disgruntled, like they cut out. We see that she posted pictures to her social like it was her daughter, Brooklyn’s birthday, and they cut out, like the scenes of just her with her daughter, like we see Kenya withdrew. And I get it because In what world is Kenya, quote, unquote, Drew’s friends like Drew who? So I’m a little annoyed too, but I do understand if what she did was show pornographic photos, which we hear it is, I do get it from Bravo’s scope. Yeah,
yeah. I agree. I would hope that Kenya does have an opportunity to somehow talk with Brit and I hope, hopefully apologize to her, yeah, because I think that that is if there’s any hope of having Kenya on in the future, I think that’s what needs to happen. Have Kelly, who is a successful restaurant tour. She has a chicken and waffle chain of restaurants, also cookbooks. You guys might remember we talked about her a bit on our May 25 of last year, episode where we broke down kind of everything we knew about the new cast,
single mom of four girls, 17 year old, and then who has a different father than her 11 year old twins? I think she’s got a 17 year old, 11 year old twins. And then I believe an eight year old. She says her divorce should be finalized in a couple months. As of while they were filming, the divorce is going on two and a half years. He’s the father of her three youngest they were married 11 years she’s from Baltimore originally, she said it took her a long time to file for divorce, but that the home environment became very unhealthy. I think the reason it took a long time is because they are, or were, business partners at their restaurant, Nana’s chicken and waffles. She has a syrup and waffle mix line that was featured in form a cookbook. Her restaurants are hugely successful. We see her, and we hope she’s not living above her means, but she is going through a divorce, and if the businesses are together, we have to see how everything’s just divided. But I did think it was a little bit of overkill that she gifted her 17 year old daughter 17 designer handbags. I’m talking Chanel, and 1000s of dollars for every designer bag. It was maybe one designer bag would have
sufficed if you guys could see my eyes rolling right now, I don’t, yeah, i i Nobody should tell anybody else how to raise their children. But I feel like that that’s pretty excessive, and it’s going to be really hard to maintain that lifestyle. And how do you, yeah, not just maintain it, but like, how do you top that for 18, right? Like, yeah, leave yourself a little little room there. Kelly, for the agree that scene with Shamia and Portia at the strip club. I loved it. I was like, this, that, and that is like, such a, that is such a like, I think fun thing for Shamia, you know, go try to cheer Portia up. And I couldn’t like the fact that they were able to film there. I thought that was very fun. I like their friendship. Shamir, his birthday party is the main part of the last part of the show, and Porsche is late to the party, as you mentioned. But Porsche also comes at the worst time. It’s right when husband is giving her the $432,000 rolls. Royce, I don’t remember what it’s called, SUV essentially. And poor shield jumps in as they’re like, opening the car doors and everything. So a little bit from shamias moment, I thought, and Shamia goes and says something to her about it, and I was just looking at that. I’m like, This is why I like an old friendship. Because old friendships, you say that really pissed me off, but let’s move on. I agree
with you, but I also do worry, because Porsche has always been the public figure in their friendship, and you do wonder Shamia is going to be getting some of the shine, and how that affects their friendship at the strip club, actually, Shamia shared that Simon texted her congratulating her on getting a peach Porsche. Didn’t love that. She’s go call him bro. Shamia also tells her what Kelly said at lunch, that the whole Porsche stole Fallon’s man. Yeah, she doesn’t have nice things to say about Kelly. She actually calls her restaurant a Chicken Shack. We know there’s gonna be a little battle there.
Yeah. And that’s when Portia hears about the Drew and Dennis thing.
Yes. And Portia isn’t happy. She said, I’ve supported Drew. And she also says I’d be shocked if it was more than them just working on their music. Listen, this is gonna
play out. I agree. I completely agree, and I can’t wait to talk about it. Portia talks to Cynthia Says Drew has a great divorce support group. Nice. That is Oh.
So then at the birthday party, we finally meet Angela Oakley, Charles oakley’s. Wife. For those of you who are familiar with sports, you know him. If you’re not, I can tell you, when the cast was first announced, I asked my husband, and he’s Yeah, Charles Oakley is huge. He plays bowls. He played for the New York lit Knicks. He is a legend. They’re married eight years, so I’m gonna go ahead and assume it’s a second marriage. She beautiful woman. He’s seems a little older. I can’t really tell she seems maybe a little bit older than the women, but beautiful. It’s hard. I’ll be honest, it’s hard to tell her age. And I haven’t Googled
it. I think he’s very handsome. Yes, I think,
yes. I think the husbands are all cute. Let’s, let’s hope that Shamia, his husband, doesn’t have something illegal going on, because that always makes me nervous when I see that kind of,
well, yeah. I Yeah. I completely agree she is the one that I am really just interested to see more of. We didn’t get to see much of her. I’m guessing she’s a friend of I, yeah, yeah. She seemed to have the most tenuous kind of tie to the group, although some of the women did know her,
she seemed she got on because her husband’s an NBA bowler,
and we did talk about him on a pod, to that same pod, actually, and about how he’s had his own kind of scandals and stuff.
Yes, he’s not allowed at MSG because he had a fight with the coach or something, yeah, and he refused to apologize. A lot of you guys,
he was. He had too much to drink. Let’s see how I’m looking it up. He is 61 years old. Let’s see how old she is.
I’m gonna guess. I’m gonna say 5154
Hold on. Let’s see her. I’m not fighting it. She might be trying to hide her age.
How Beyonce of her? I’ve told you the Beyonce story, right? No, when I went to college, I was 17, because I have a winter birthday, Beyonce was 20. Now Beyonce and I are the same age. The math ain’t math, and she scrubbed the intern is actually three years older than she says she is period die. I stand by it. So you know how when a celebrity is the same age as you, you just remember, yeah, so I always remembered, because obviously, Destiny’s Child was huge. I always remembered that she was three years older than me. She has a full birthday, so I always remembered it. And then one day they just started saying she was born when I was and I’m like, this is not true, but nobody believes me. But I’m telling I’m guys. You’ve heard it here. Beyonce is three years older than she claims. Don’t sue me. Beyonce, allegedly,
ah, anything? Okay, nobody. I can’t find anything. We’re gonna find out. We’re gonna have to find out, cuz now we all wanna know. But I do see that she went to college and graduated in 2004
which wouldn’t play No. That would make
her that is not true. That would make her our age closer to our age, and she’s got to be a little bit older. All right, not that she looks older, it’s just something about her gives that
energy. Oh, and the horn cocktails. So call somebody find this for we’re gonna
wrap it up because we have all season. But So yeah, Kelly, at the party, comes straight for Porsche says right to her face. Why’d you take that, man? It’s about to get messy. Next week is going to be great. So if you’re not watching Atlanta, catch up, it’s one episode My sister in law,
you can start it and not have I feel like this, like you could start out. You don’t need to watch the previous Yes, 100%
and so my sister in law who, like, has gotten behind on housewives. I know it’s a crime. Watch the first episode. She was very proud of herself, so maybe she’ll pop in on a cocktail. Who knows? I love that. Actually, maybe we’re when we’re in Florida, I’ll have her pop in and we can talk only if she keeps up. If she doesn’t watch the second episode, she’s out.
Okay, so before we move on, did you miss candy. I love candy, but no nice, same. I love her, but I did not miss her. There is so much else going on. So, you know, there you go. Okay, so this week, we finally got the valley trailer, which looks as we’ve been talking about, what’s been going on behind the scenes. We know it’s looking like it’s going to be as crazy as it we’ve been hearing, I know you’ve been reposting some of the intel that we’ve gotten, so you guys can refresh your memories on that. But even knowing that, it still feels really surprising, because some of this stuff is just, it’s just cray.
So we see Kristen get engaged. Obviously, we all know that. We see all the drama between Brittany and Jax, which, while we’ve heard about it, actually seeing it is still wild. We told you guys, Michelle and Jesse were really at war. Obviously, we knew that they weren’t in a great place, but we’re gonna see them go really low, especially at the beginning. He calls her a hooker. We actually had a source. Tell us these we have just the best Valley source, and all the stuff that we posted was in the trailer. So I know that this source is true, and I’m going to be reposting it. So when the trailer dropped, Michelle refused to post the trailer because of the hooker line, and we also were told that Dan. The and Nia only posted pictures because of the draw. They’re framing Danny as a jock. Yeah. There was
also the, there was a hooker line. And there was also the line about somebody having proof that she slept with a billionaire for a $1,500 a night. Neither of those are really great for
her. We posted first season that she was cheating on him with her now boyfriend. By the way, I don’t, I do not know if she received money. And we on this pod do not disrespect sex workers with that said, if I am a sex worker and you’re a billionaire 1500 and I ain’t cutting it,
we see Danny being accused of being a drunk.
So yeah, let’s do you. What do you what are your thoughts on that?
And then Janet says, My husband isn’t the one who gets drunk and gets handsy. Yeah, my thoughts on it are this, I don’t know if he’s a drunk I do know that when we met him, he did seem to act different when he was at parties and drinking too much, and Nia was always shushing him, getting him out of there. So it could be and it’s the case for a lot of people that don’t drink often, that when they drink it really hits them, or some people drink often and every time it hits them, I think there’s some I have witnessed watching this show that there is truth to the fact that his behavior really changes when he drinks. Yeah, the get handsy part, Janet calls out, but I know that Jasmine and so in the trailer we see Kristen say it, but I think we’ll see Kristen go Jasmine said, because apparently Jasmine’s the one who drops the bomb that Janet’s husband Jason has been spotted out without his ring on. Of course, the implication is that he’s trying to act like he’s not married. We could. There’s a ton of fighting between all of them in the trailer. It’s hard to tell who’s with who and who’s against who. So we’re gonna have to make a master list. I think it might ebb and flow. I have to personally read all the tea again, because what’s weird, we receive it, we post it, but then when we see it, you have to go back and reread it together as we watch it, because things become clear, things make more sense. So now we have the trailer. And
yeah, well, and like you said, we knew that all the Jackson Britney stuff was going on, but again, seeing it and hearing her talk about this, like thong and seeing her out in the press, no longer protecting him now that he has come out and announced his sobriety like it adds a whole different layer to it. And I, I agree with you. I think we might need to make a flow chart to keep up with whose friends you know, who’s on whose side at this point, I think with the valley, especially because we didn’t get a reunion, I think we’re all feeling like we’re just we’ve been really anticipating this next season of the show. Yeah, so I’m super excited.
I am. Wait, there was something else I wanted to say, oh, I want to touch on summer house, yeah, before we wrap up, because this season is great.
Yes, it was a good it was that little scene where Jesse totally breaks the fourth wall and looks over at the camera. It was good. It was a good one. So West is sneaking out of the house, going to the club, leaving people behind. They call him out on it. He says, Oh, I’m sorry I met up with a buddy. I didn’t I’m sorry I didn’t tell you guys that I was leaving. Do you feel like at this point he it should be hiding his hookups?
We see Jesse say to him, don’t do that if you’re gonna go out and hook up with people. Say to people, I’m going out tonight because I see Wes point. He’s trying to protect himself. I think it’s more about him not getting Sierra’s backlash than caring about her feelings, to be honest with you. But I think that’s a little part of it. But I think Jesse is don’t have the rest of the house turn on you. Oh, this guy’s unreliable, because then they’ll start to dislike him. It’s Jesse’s boy, so he doesn’t want to be in a situation where he’s got to defend him and all of that. But the thing is, if he’s just hooking up, it’s not like he’s hiding a girlfriend or I think he should just be more honest about it.
Yeah, I get it, because he definitely started out in The Hurt Locker in the dog house because of Sierra and so it I’m sure it feels like a no win situation for him, because if he tells the truth, Sierra is probably going to be upset, and if he doesn’t, then everybody else is going to be annoyed with him. I just, I think, at this point, just don’t make a habit of us, because then we as viewers are also going to feel like he’s hiding something from us. What did you
think about Danielle’s conversation with Lindsay? Poor West was sitting in the middle of on the beach that Danielle shocked Lindsay isn’t living with her boyfriend, whom is the father of her child, Turner I Lindsay explained it very well. She’s I happen to get pregnant, but if I wasn’t pregnant, we wouldn’t be moving in together. So I don’t want to put any more pressure on the relationship. And he’s very happy about the baby, and he comes to all the appointments, and he’s very involved with the baby. And yeah, we currently have a nice relationship. And then Danielle goes, it just feels like you’re single momming it up. So mean and so shady. And we all know, the thing that bothers me about Danielle more than anything is I have got so many DMS from people she lives in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, from people in Brooklyn and people who work at establishments in Montauk, and they all say that she really is not nice in real life, and she acts like she’s a celebrity. And I think that weighs into when I see her on the TV. Yeah,
I agree, because I’m watching that scene like there’s no way she doesn’t know this already, so they’re clearly having to have the conversation for the cameras. But could we do it in a way that’s maybe not again, like you said me, it was, it did feel a little bit mean. I think Lindsay, I agree the way that she explained it, when that she’s, yeah, I mean, I, I this is like, I’m proud of myself, actually, that this is the first time that I’m not, you know, taking at least this part of it too fast. And she’s, yeah, he’s the one who got the baby nurse, and he’s the one he’s going to all the appointments. And the reason I thought it was a mean thing for Danielle to say is because it was almost a like, it was more of a comment on her relationship with the baby’s dad than it was about when that just felt like a low blow, because, as Lindsay herself was saying, she’s like, it’s still early days. We’re still figuring this out,
I think, in a general way, it feels like Danielle poses as Lindsay’s really good friend. And in so many ways, I would say, really, since her breakup with Robert, she takes every opportunity to paint Lindsay as making bad decisions and not supporting her. And I could almost give her grace with the Carl thing, because she ultimately ended up being right. And there were, it was lower stakes for her to say, maybe you guys are rushing it, but she’s sitting next to you pregnant, and you as her close friend. Because I’m not even gonna say they’re best friends. Maybe there was a time they were they film a show together, and they both have their own real life best friends, but your close friend is sitting there pregnant. You know that she’s always wanted a baby. You know that she went and froze her eggs, so now she’s pregnant, and she’s getting what she wants. And maybe you can keep those thoughts to yourself, and so maybe when the time comes that your close friend says to you, I’m upset. I thought the relationship would progress differently. I really feel like I’m a single mom. So maybe you could just be the friend who supports her and hears her, because it really is coming off to me, like Danielle is in there this weekend, and there is a hope that if she performs well and stirs it and makes a good storyline, she’ll be asked back for another weekend, because I got news for you. I don’t really know how she is earning money, but that app is not an active app. Oh, it’s not. Oh no. It’s, if you even go to the App Store, it’s like, only downloaded by not a lot of pain right now. And it’s it just she doesn’t post anything about it on her personal
are 1111 reviews. Yeah,
wow. It’s so it’s 299, a month. First month free. 2999 a year. Zon is currently only available to paid subscribers. New monthly. I don’t know anybody that’s on it, and there’s only 11
reviews. I really like the idea. I gotta say it is there are people, actually I know, here, where I live, who will go into your closet and style things, and then help you fill in with a couple of other pieces. So I’ve heard
of any? Yeah, I and I want to ask a question, and again, beyond being a bitch, but when I think of that, is Danielle, the person you think of like she I’m not saying that she does it like she always looks nice. She’s a beautiful woman. She’s a great figure. But I can’t say that. I look at her and go, Oh my god.
I love her outfit. I love the way she puts together an outfit. Yeah, I agree.
Like, it just never crossed my her outfits don’t intrigue me in any way, yeah, and they’re like, just like, whatever, like it looks like anything, like something you would buy on target, or something you would buy on Amazon, or something you would buy at old Nate. Like, nothing about her clothes is like, Amanda and Paige are the fashion girls, yeah. So I just,
and I think you’re right, of course, I’m sure in the back of Danielle’s head, she’s like, I really bring it this weekend, and maybe it’ll ask me back, yeah, what did you think of emerald?
At first, I was like, ick, and I’m still like ick, because he’s not giving us a lot, oh, all we’re seeing. Why are they not showing the girls? I guess the girls don’t want to sign NDIS, or they don’t even want to get involved with it. They’re just gonna I don’t blame them. I think that it’s an attempt on productions part to be like, this isn’t couple house. We got young, Hot Singles, but I think for a primarily female audience, him coming out and being like, I don’t remember her name is. He explains that he was married young, and then says it wasn’t for citizenship, but it sounds like it was. I hope there’s more to him. I hope it’s just not like him and the revolving door and the girls disappearing. My followers pointed out that it seems like Danielle is like, trying to get his attention. Which, again, I think is a ploy to be on the show. Yeah, if she which, if listen, I think that he’s obviously attractive. He’s well built, so if she wanted to hook up with him, that’s totally fine. But I just feel she’s so motivated by staying on the show. I think that emerald, unless something changes in this season, I just think he’ll be a one hit wonder, because that shtick isn’t gonna go long, no, and yeah, he does seem nice, but he doesn’t seem like particularly funny or like he changes his outfit three times, and he just seems like, really a fuck boy. Yeah,
I’m not. I feel the same. I feel like with Lexi too. She is, unfortunately, I think, like by trying to be authentic and say I get jealous and sharing the stuff about her modeling background and how she’s so used to being picked apart. I think,
remember the girl, I think her name was Jess on winter house, the very pretty blonde girl who I think she was obsessed with, Corey? Was it Corey? Yes. She’s really giving her vibes to me, yeah. And it makes me sad we see how insecure she is about her body. Pick me girl, and she’s jealous of Jesse. And Jesse’s naturally a flirt. And I can absolutely see, especially at the end of the episode, where we see him in the room with Sierra, and he’s like, flirting with her, already saying how he’s obsessed with Paige, and I can see why any girl like would feel like that, but I just feel like she doesn’t even know about that, because it’s behind her back. So the fact that she’s so jealous with him, and they’ve only known each other a couple of weeks, it’s, yeah, it’s a turn off. I feel like we’re watching a slow motion car crash. Yeah? Because feel bad because she seems very sweet, she does,
but like Jesse, you’re already seeing him start to pull back and be like, Wait a second. Maybe I whereas last week, he was saying he loved her, and it’s I hope that if we know they don’t end up staying together, I hope they can figure out a way to make things I hope that they haven’t gotten in so deep that she’s
I agree. And I think also, if you look at what Jesse’s attracted to, we know he’s always had a thing for Paige. We know he jokes with Sierra. I think he really likes a strong, empowered woman, and not somebody who is so dependent on outside validation, yeah, yeah. I really like Lexi. Though I like Lexi, I think it’s a first season fumble to get into a relationship with somebody in the house, and I hope that she comes back and parties it up. And I hope that being in a group of strong women, like mostly strong women, rubs off on her. Yeah, she’s also young, and I feel like a lot of it comes with age, but it’s she says it she’s like, being a model, like I always was just so criticized for my looks. And it’s so crazy, because you just see how beautiful she is, and the fact that she has any insecurity about her looks is like, whoa, right? Exactly. We love you guys. We’re so happy you’re feeling better. Amanda,
oh, thank you guys again. Thanks for all the well wishes till next time. Bye