94. Exclusive Larsa and Marcus Tea; Porsha is BACK; End of the Road for VPR? Sandoval’s Non-Apology Tour

Larsa from RHOM interrupted our Super Bowl watch parties to let the world know she and Marcus had broken up. In her own thinly veiled way, of course. BUT, before any of the dust settled, they’re seen together four days later on Valentine’s Day. We have been getting lots of tea on this relationship since last year – so, since the subject came up, we share the exclusive Cocktail Party posts. We share our thoughts on couples who go through each other’s phones. Porsha is back on ATL and it’s got us looking forward to RHOA after a season that could only be described as “mid”. We share our other RHOA casting tea, as well. While we’re liking the VPR season and view into the aftermath of Scandoval, we can’t help but wonder – is this the end of the road for VPR? Sandoval continues on his non-apology tour with a chat with LVP that devolves quickly. Just not a good look.

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What’s up cocktail hours and Amanda? Hi. Hi, baby. Hi COC Taylor’s. Okay, I apologize for my voice ahead.
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Eye you know, I’m so paranoid. of years ago I got the flu. And then of course COVID And now every time I have a sniffle I’m like oh my god. I got tested for everything. It’s just viral. But yeah, I’m getting my daytime Thera flow not sponsored, but it works. That’s good. It’s nice to have something hot when you’re not feeling great, right? Yeah, I was. I was fine. I was just congested. I still like live life and did everything as normal. So hopefully that’s the case with you till Yeah, reminds me of when that Friends episode, where Phoebe got the cold and was performing and like the way she sounded. So then she got better. And then she kept trying to get sick again because she wanted her like six sexy boys to come back.
You know, I don’t know if I’ve ever told you this. But I never really watched friends like I obviously I’ve seen episodes, but that is insane. I mean, you know, I’m bringing me something I kind of am embarrassed to admit because Seinfeld I’ve seen tons of Yeah, but again, I didn’t watch those shows like live as they were when they found out I was like high school. I was a little bit like I drink on Thursday nights. I was a little bit young like not that I was so young, but I wasn’t like college or out of college age where like living in your own apartment seems so although I watched 90210 It like eight years old.
Totally not when I believe my mother like well, my mother didn’t know. Because back then you had like those little TVs in our room. Yeah. And like you only had four or five channels. But that was on I think Fox right? Yeah, it was, I don’t know on Wednesday nights. I remember I would watch it in our kitchen eating dinner because like I would always have swim practice and so I would watch it in the little kitchen. So your mom allowed you to watch 90210 She did but I also watched like
dynasty with her and like Knott’s landing as a young child, which is probably why, that I love housewives. Now, I always say my mother was a huge I’m sure I’ve said it to you. Well, I think we both grew up on days of our lives. Yeah. And I’m like, that was like the beginner’s guide to housewives. For sure. And like, yeah, college, we would watch it like it was I watched it every day for sure. I just also feel like now we get it as moms like, my mom was tired. She was like, you know, what, if you want to go sneak in your room, I do remember putting like Melrose Place on the lowest volume because that I definitely was not supposed to be watched. Yeah, that was on at eight o’clock. And that was like, definitely more racy. Yes. Oh, yes. Everything I need to know about sex. I learned from Melrose Place so dear God.
Wasn’t Lisa Rinna on Melrose Place? Yeah, she was she was on it. likelier was on it, which I always Her name was Amanda and she worked in advertising. That’s probably where I got the idea. I don’t know I ate. Who knows? And I’m gonna know and like things have an impression on you. Andrew Chu? Yes. Who was so cute. Wasn’t he a soccer or no in real life? Just a soccer in real life and then great show. Well, the hungry i Oh, super. He’s like, he’s like classic what Hollywood actors should look like. Yeah. And show. Yes. i If anyone on here is young and doesn’t know Google grid show 90s And you’re just already like, watch some Melrose Place because it was good. I’ve watched a little bit of Naito like here and there if it pops on and like I can barely get through it. Now. I don’t know why. But we’re I feel you Dylan or Brandon. I was
I guess I was more of a more I guess I was more of a Brandon. But I wasn’t like really like in love with either of them. do nots. I really like a nice David Silva. Who did you like? I really liked David Silver. Like maybe not at the very beginning when he was like the nerdy guy. Yeah. But, and I still think Brian Austin Green is beautiful. Yeah, I agree. And evil I didn’t think was that good looking age, like a fine wine that Ian Ziering is very odd looking now, but like then he looks like an old man to me. Yeah, I know what you mean. He didn’t he definitely did not look like a teenager back then. But yeah, you know you love the blonde man.
I yeah, I gotta get out of this. You really do. Okay, I want to talk about Well, first of all, what is your deal for the Super Bowl? Well, I tried to watch the Super Bowl but unfortunately Larsa had other plans but I was at a Super Bowl party with a few friends and you know family and we’re having a grand old time delicious. My sister and loads at a taco bar uzun good, like known shredded meat and ground meat and all the all the fixings It was delicious. But unfortunately, there I am trying to watch Taylor. We did a we did a pool for like at the party, how many times Taylor was shown and I overshot it by a lot. I said like, what was the final answer? It’s eight or nine. Okay, because Prosecco was consumed. While the first game that she came to I did an over under bet with my son. And he was like up and so we decided that it’s I think seven was a number. And so he bought under and I bet that over and I think it ended up being like 17 times that first game. So I probably would have gone on the higher end to Yeah, no, it was on the lower end. So I feel like if Travis Kelce had had like, a better game earlier, because he had a good game towards the end. But yeah, how do you had a better game? I think I think you would have one. Shout out to Blake Lively’s hair. Like is that all her hair? He thinks. I mean, she’s always had amazing hair. It’s not fair. It’s gorgeous. And like origin, all of that. I mean, clearly she’s got some kind of relationship with Tiffany’s but like, I mean, to hate Tiffany’s B and I are also available to have a relationship with you as well. Maybe not in front of we might not quite get the audience that the Superbowl did but definitely give us a call. We’re here available. 129 million viewers watch the halftime show. It was a huge Usher. I mean, I love Usher, love always have I think he’s incredible. I loved it. People always are critical of the halftime show. I almost said you can’t win, but I thought he was fantastic. The rollerskating was awesome. I love to critical of Alicia Keys. Apparently her first note. I mean, give me a break. I thought she was fantastic. Of course loved ludicrous. It was just
Right. Well, yeah I am. It was fantastic. she or her Excuse me. Her she have an old lady her. Yeah. She’s she’s a badass, I liked her toe. Okay, so back to, of course the drama going on off the screen with Larsa and Marcus Jordan breaking up. I mean, I feel like I feel like it’s been a whirlwind week for all of us, I’m guessing for Larsa and Marcus as well.
You know, so they were just spotted together on Valentine’s day after
all of the Instagram. So I guess we’re getting ready for the breakups to the makeups. But we have to discuss what went down during Super Bowl. Yeah. So first, Larissa posted a cryptic breakup, quote, with a video. And then so we’re all like, huh, some of you guys sent it to me and shout out, really to the Bravo and cocktail followers because you guys are on it. I know. People always like how do you post stuff so quickly? Because people send it to me. It’s incredible. So what did that what did that cryptic breakup? Quote? Say? Was that the one about a video it was like a video about knowing someone’s right for you or something? Yeah. Okay. You did a poll that said, Should your friend unfollow your ex when you split? So we all immediately go to her Instagram where we see that not only did she wipe her grid of old traces of Marcus no pictures, she also had unfollowed him. He did not unfollow or delete pics until 45 minutes or so later. I don’t know if she found something out and went straight to social and blasted him more. Maybe they had an argument on the phone, but he just didn’t unfollow her as quickly. Yeah, it was in Orlando. He started posting pictures watching the Superbowl with his dad on their tiny television.
Guys, he lives in Orlando. Right. That’s where he’s based out of where I has business there. Because like on the show, he’s like, Yeah, to go to Orlando for five days. Yeah, they were I know, they were in Orlando. I mean, these are the Jordans. They have properties everywhere. I don’t right where they spent, I imagine in the past year since he’s been dating Larsa. Miami’s his main hub. Yeah, but prior to that it may have been Orlando. I don’t know if they were in a vacation property. I don’t think that Marcus and Michael Jordan, Airbnb I have to assume they own and are in mansions. I don’t know why. They had everyone’s like, I can’t tell you hundreds of messages. I finally wrote to my stories. Like guys, I don’t know why Michael Jordan has a small television like, but like maybe it’s like that area. I watch saltburn If okay, that. Oh my gosh, you know, watch it, put it on your phone for the plane. It really I just want to say the murder on the dance floor. That’s from that, right. I was obsessed with that song in 2001 or two when I studied abroad in Florence. Yeah. So thank you. So Byrne for bringing that back. Sophie Ellis Baxter is the shit. But these extremely, extremely rich people are all like gathered around this little tiny TV. So maybe it’s like an extremely wealthy people thing that we are just not a part of yet. Or maybe there was an inside message there.
Yeah. Like we don’t really care that much about the Super Bowl. I want to ask you before we keep going with this whole situation. Do you think that your friends should unfollow your ex after a breakup? I think it depends. I think that it seems like this was directed at Lisa Hochstein who landed in check, she still was following him. And I have to imagine that it was posted because Laura had a conversation with Lisa where whatever she found out which we’re going to get to what we heard, which we posted for cocktail hours, we’re going to share what we heard, I had to imagine that Lisa was privy to information that Larissa felt would warrant and unfollowing right, such as Yeah, cheating or something egregious. Now, you know, most of my friends don’t have teenage style relationships. So, right? If my friend who I’m friends with as a family unit, divorces her husband, and it’s
not necessarily fully amicable, but it’s not splashed all over Page Six that he was begging a cocktail waitress or an escort. I’m probably not going to unfriend them on Facebook. I may not comment on their pictures. I may not like their stuff. I may give them a little bit of an ice out.
But I think it depends if my good friends, spouse or long term boyfriend is found out that have a mistress? Yes, I think I would unfollow so. I think it kind of depends on the situation. Right? I think in the case of the site and Larsa assuming this was directed at Lisa, when Marcus is a steal
I Bertie, and he has a public account. I think unfollowing is a it’s like a very Kardashian move, right? Like, it’s like, it’s a what, you know, we are not contributing to your followers. It’s more of a message about that. I feel like when it’s more of a private lates life situation and if somebody has a private account, I think the friends should continue to follow the acts so they can like keep telling you what’s going on because then you can’t really follow somebody like that. It’s really weird if you then ask a private account to be like to re follow so I that’s where I think it is. I feel like it’s, you know, think I think in the case of Lisa Hochstein, it very much speaks to what we heard Alexia Marisol say this week. I was actually shocked when they showed the clip where Marisol and Lisa are walking and just having a conversation between two girlfriends. And Marisol is like I’m so excited. Hubby and I are going to renew our vows. And Lisa says something like who? What? Who are you talking about? And Marisol is just like, forget it. How does Lisa not know who she is? She’s married for years, a few years at least to Steve. She said hobby. Who the hell she’s talking about her and her dog? Like totally self absorbed. I am so turned off. Yeah, I am too. Especially like I know she likes to say that that setting an alarm thing to check in. On Jodi every day was a joke, but
I really think it really was not a joke. Yeah.
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okay, so I also wanted to tell you guys that of course, I get curious about stuff and try to dig in and see what kind of information I can find. So I had not listened to their podcast. So I pull up their podcast. And what I found was really interesting is they did weekly episodes to the summer. So July, June, July, August, but then after the summer, they only did two more episodes total one in September and one in November. Now we know part of that is probably because they were filming for traders, which would be understandable, but did not pick it up and this again after November and so they did a total of 15 episodes all in and so I mean be you and I both know like podcasting is definitely not as easy as it seems. But I can’t help but wonder was the relationship ship trouble? Like right there in front of our eyes the whole time?
Well, it’s interesting because after the episode
We just watched where it was brought up. Talk about timing. It was brought up that Michael Jordan publicly said that he didn’t approve, like he was asked to approve the relationship and he said like hell no. And we all remember that clip from TMZ. And it went viral and everything like that. I loved Adrianus comparison when she said that Larissa reminds her of a little kid who puts a bag over her head and thinks nobody can see her.
Because it was so it was such a good comparison. That’s exactly what she was doing. It’s like we all saw the clip. Clearly, he wasn’t laughing clearly. He doesn’t agree with the relationship. And so less after that episode, I’m Watch What Happens Live. Julia and Adriana kind of slipped because Andy was like, Have you spoken to Larissa about the breakup? And they were like, Well, Andy, you heard what he said at the reunion? And Andy kind of backed off it like, yeah, yeah, but I’m not talking about that. Like, let’s say that for the reunion. And they were, they said, listen, when people see the reunion, there’ll be more context to their breakup. Ooh. So they also pointed out Julia and Adriana that the ladies really, they said, we really liked him. We thought he was really sweet. But at the reunion, we saw a different side of him. He said, some mean thing, things about us, leads me to believe that they questioned the cheating rumors that we have posted about. And he reacted in an unkind way in a way that we wouldn’t expect. I mean, we’ve seen him on Miami and on traders just be lovely. We’ve all commented how lovely he is. But we have to remember, he’s very much been able to curate his image. Yes, he’s a name we all know, but outside of his face, and who his father is, none of us knew what his personality was like. So it’s a very convenient way to walk onto a public stage when you can curate your image. And he’s intelligent, and he’s handsome, and certainly presented as kind and sweet. And so that’s what we know of him. Now at the reunion, the ladies indicated that we’re going to see another side to him. And when was the reunion filmed? I think just a couple weeks ago, right, because we just all have been virally. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like it has. It’s been brewing. We have been posting about stuff going on since they were filming. This has always been out there. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, and yeah. I mean,
well,
we’ll talk about that in a second. But we have gotten so many emails, and so many of these DMS, so we figure that, like, let’s share a couple of because some of you guys are not yet cocktail party members. So some of this stuff is old, but we’ll share it. So back in June, we got an email and it was from cheater air. And remember, his instagram handle is air MJ, right? Something like that. Our air market anyway, it starts with the word heir. Well, that’s also becoming Stevie because it’s like his whole claim to fame is being Michael Jordan son, which right? Listen, it’s Michael Jordan, of course. It’s cool. But you’re a 32 year old man. Like let’s focus on your own accomplishments. Or no, I I’m proud of my father. I’m proud of my mother. And of course, you wear that with pride, right? Your parents and then he comes from a loving home and everything like that, but like, posting it right after the breakup. He’s posting his father videos of his father’s net worth. Okay. Yeah. Like your father accomplished a lot. And what are you doing? But that’s not you? Right? Okay. So from cheater air, subject, she’s a fraud. Rumor has it this housewife is being cheated on by her young boyfriend. The woman he is cheating with is also a reality star. She’s known to be reckless. She loves hip hop. So you know, and I apologize with his head cold and everything I wanted to look into I forget who it was from Love and Hip Hop. I know one of our listeners will DM me and be like be remember it so and so. But yes, this was we got this email. And after we got this email, I did see it on a couple of outlets.
I think he kind of got lucky because Love and Hip Hop and Bravo are two separate channels. If there was more crossover say it was southern charm, or you know what I mean? Yeah, it would have picked up more steam. Right? I agree. So listen, let’s face it. Larsa knows better than anyone would it is to date. A famous. He’s not an athlete, but he’s certainly an athlete adjacent. Right it. His father is Michael Jordan. So you have to imagine that he leads by
follows his example. However you want to say it? Yeah. She’s in the middle of filming. These rumors come out. She doesn’t want to break up in the middle of filming. Yeah, she doesn’t watch
She doesn’t even want to mention something that was on TMZ that we all already saw. She’s certainly going to bury this. So I think that that’s what we saw happen. Maybe she really tried to forgive him. Something pushed her over the edge. And then we start getting the Intel and this was an Intel for one source or two sources.
He’s on Raya allegedly, escort strippers, all sorts of stuff came in. But everybody, a lot of people did know that he’s very nice in real life.
Yeah, like a lot of people whose friends, I’ve hooked up with him and stuff, you know, maybe there were some bottleservice at some clubs, and this is all very public stuff. So I find it hard to believe that these girls, if they’re sending me DMS, they’re sending her DMs, they’re sending her pictures, because if they’re sending them to me, they’re sending them to her. She knew it. I think it’s a matter of maybe it was somebody in particular who pissed her off somebody else famous, something like that, or repeat, right? There are a lot of women and we’ve talked about it. Well, Michelle Dempsey was on we talked about it, there are a lot of women that are with men, who can’t be monogamous, who are okay with an escort who are okay with a one night stand. But when it becomes repeated when you take the same woman out to dinner, that’s when they put their foot down.
Yeah, I mean, a source says it’s hard to believe that she had no idea. I just I, with the with that we you know, kind of going back to what Michelle said, like how I don’t get how, like,
just from a health and safety standpoint, people are not talking about the emotions, not talking about the jealousy not talking about any of that. I’m talking about like, not getting herpes.
Yeah, like, how are they okay with that I don’t get it especially escorts. In theory, you’re probably having sex with a lot of people you spent
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Okay, so we got another email. This one is from Miami blues subject. It’s kind of sad. I know people have mixed feelings about this East Coast housewife but she’s really sad about her split. She was all in. He was having fun at first and he liked the attention. He’s wealthy but never had any fame. He liked the platform. And now he gets even more attention and ladies and he likes that more than his older girlfriends. The tension wasn’t only from his dad’s disapproval. His philandering was a big issue.
I mean, I think we all kind of feel conflicted. Initially, the majority of us were like, this is weird, not because of the age difference, but because his dad and her ex husband were on the same Chicago Bulls basketball team.
Those two Pippin and Jordan are known to dislike each other. So of all people for her to get into a serious relationship with it seemed wild that it was Michael Jordan site.
What that said, you know, on the show, they seem to have a really nice connection. And that again on traders, I liked them together. But she did seem very attached throwing him a party when he was away for a couple of nights. Right? And this was confirmed by Julia who this week told a press outlet that Larson became enraged at Bravo con because Julia had asked Marcus to take pictures of her like I’m sure everybody does at
Robert Brown, right? Right, Dan’s included. And I guess he just use his phone because everyone’s busy. You’re rushing around. Yeah. And when Lars was saw the picture, she yelled at him. She yelled at Julia. And they were both like, Are you kidding? Like, he was just taking pictures and then texted them. To me.
That is somebody
that is worried about, like, if you’re worried about your friend who’s married, right? You’re worried about everybody in the context of Bravo Khan, where it would be very normal, like in real life. And any day, it’s very normal for me to take a picture of like, if my husband had a picture of you and then send it right. Yeah, I, my husband had a picture of you. It would, and I saw it. Yeah, he’s clearly taking a picture for you. Right, taking a picture of you and then hanging it on his wall. Yeah, I just I feel like that extreme neediness for each other. It just seemed kind of codependent. To me. I mean, obviously, they call their podcasts separation anxiety. I, as much as I started to like him, both on Miami and on traders. I always thought there were some red flags coming, especially from Mark from Larsa when she and Lisa are having that conversation about how Larissa goes through his phone all the time when they’re sitting there at that cafe in Mexico. I mean, I don’t know, I find that problematic. I mean, what do you think about that? Do you think that if couples go through each other’s phones, that means there’s a lack of trust?
I do. I think it depends on circumstances. Of course, like everything else. I’m not somebody who goes through. I never I never was, yeah, I’m an I’m an xennials. So I grew up without phones. And then in college, I got a phone. So like, I’ve always had a phone, I don’t feel a need to go. Now here’s the other side of it. My husband leaves his phone on the counter and goes upstairs and hops in the shower. I know my husband’s passcode not for it. We have a family passcode. It’s all it’s all of our past codes. So I think that if my house if I didn’t know his passcode there will be a variety of reasons that it would be concerning to me. And I might feel the need to check his fault. Yes, not knowing I think that’s I agree with you. Like, I would not feel a need. But if I didn’t know the passcode that would that would feel odd to me. Yes, I agree with you. Okay, well, the good news is that traders is filming their reunion pretty soon. So I think we’ll hopefully get some info coming out of coming out of that. So this is the other thing. Followers are saying. They’re like, date art. Well, they responded together. So it’s not just that they re followed each other. Are they really trying to make it work? Is this their way of avoiding a bad look? At the reunion? There’s no avoiding it, the questions are going to be asked. Yeah, but lorcet like we’ve seen her dance around it. She can.
It’s such a big cash. There’s so many other things to cover. I don’t know, I think I think that this is going to be a makeup and breakup situation. Like, there’ll be no cycle. Yes, yeah. I mean, and it occurred to me, could this be a publicity thing? Like, could this be something that they did on purpose? That never really, you know, is going to? I feel I don’t believe that one. A lot of people said that. And I’ll tell you why. I don’t believe it. Larsa very much cares what people think. And I don’t think she would be comfortable with people seeing her relationship in a fragile state. She’s, she’s so jealous. She’s open it like the Julia thing. Like she wouldn’t want other women women to see the opportunity there. I don’t Yeah, that she would do it. People are like, Oh, she learned from the Kardashians and all this. I don’t I don’t think she do that.
Yeah, I agree. I agree. And I just think that there’s been enough like I’ve said smoke coming in that there’s gotta be some fire there.
But speaking of smoke coming in, Portia is back on Atlanta and she looks fire. I love that video. I actually started scrolling through her Instagram because I don’t always get her stuff. I am super excited. I think she’s really gonna break it.
It’s been a long time since I’ve been excited about Atlanta. I was actually talking to a source today and I said exactly that because they were downloading me on some intel which I’m going to share.
We have so many classic moments from Porsche. We really watched her evolve. And I think that the more housewife goes through life changes on a show before our eyes, the more invested we are in them. Yeah. And with Portia when she started she was
A young woman in a new marriage turned out to be to evaluate very controlling man. She went through a divorce on the show. She fell in love again. We watched her relationship blossom with her. Pete What was his name PJ, Dennis, Dennis and then adored as PJ. And then we watched them have a child, we watched them split, try to co parent somewhat amicably. And then of course, she remarried. Wealthy, this wealthy guy now we haven’t really seen their marriage. We’ve heard he’s controlling. I think we’re all very interested to see what their marriage is like. There was also scandal there because he was married to her friend Fallon. Right. When they got together, a lot of people were saying that Porsche was a homewrecker. Her and Simon, the husband’s name Simon, right. maintained that actually Fallon was cheating on Simon. Turns out Fallon ended up dating the guy afterwards, they’ve since broke up. So we don’t really know what came the hours who cheated. There was a lot of scandal there. And by the way, I’m interested. Are you interested to see this marriage? I mean, yeah, I’m I’m very curious to see about how things work within that marriage and what that family home dynamic is like, because from what what little we have seen on of him when he was on when he was on housewives with Fallon. And then we, I did see I didn’t see the whole thing. But I did see a little bit about on Porsche spin off show. But he seems to have pretty traditional values, which I think is interesting, because Porsche, I feel like seems to be anything kind of but and like, you know, he talks about his Nigerian heritage with a lot of pride. I’m curious to see if they go back and forth between Nigeria in Atlanta. And of course, guys, I looked above him just to get a little more information. So he owns a company called sim, Cole Petrolia, petroleum, petroleum. And he has also been a movie producer who worked with Spike Lee. He’s an investor in restaurants and nightlife spots in Atlanta. He says his greatest purpose is philanthropy. And he apparently has six children. So it’s a lot. Yeah. And I wonder if he’s counting Pilar in there. But with Porsche coming on? I don’t know. I think it’ll be I think it’ll be interesting to see what’s going on with them. I’m very interested to see what’s going to happen with the rest of the cast. So here’s the thing, and I’m like, on the edge of my seat. I think we’re gonna get Kenya back. Good. Okay. Can you read the email that we got a while back? Yeah. Yeah. And then let’s read up. Okay. Okay. So this was back in November. It’s from our H O a casting subject, our H O a shakeup. And it says, Think about Bravo Khan. And who from Atlanta was highlighted and who wasn’t. Kenyon Srei. are invited back next season. Drew already knew her fate. That’s why she backed out of Bravo con. Sonya and candy are out to Candy’s paycheck is way too much. And she’s okay with the decision. She’s excited for other opportunities. Porsche will be back to, as of now, Kenya Srei. Porsche and for newbies. Marlo is a possibility, but probably will be a friend of again. So we said last week Porsha. And Kenya made sense. Yeah. My source said it’s not a done deal. But they’re fairly certain that they’re gonna get Kenya back. I can’t imagine Kenya wouldn’t. With Porsche back. It’s going to be a revived show. Everyone’s going to be tuning in. Yeah, sure. Ray. I don’t know. I’d like to see her in the mix. I haven’t heard that she’s close to signing. It doesn’t mean she’s not. Yeah, Marlo. I hear. I don’t know. I think we can expect to see Kenya and I’m not sure about anyone other than that. Yeah. I will also say like having seen Porsche on the ultimate girls, Trump the word entirely and like, she’s, I just really feel like she’s really kind of come into her own. And that’s been since she’s been married. So I think it’s just gonna be really interesting to watch her. Do you think there’s any chance that we will see, I mean, I know what I think but Kim or Nene. The Navy buzz was loud for a while and never say never. But I’m not really sure it’s realistic. Kim, part of me says it will be great. And part of me says we don’t need to see that. It’s become like, they went from being like funny and quirky and whatever to. I mean, just those videos that have been leaked, very toxic. I don’t I don’t think Bravo’s interested. I don’t think as viewers, we’d be interested in
I really think the best move is what they’re doing. Right keep a couple of anchors Portia Kenya, build new around them I’d be fine with sure I am assure a fan. I think that she right. Is she somebody who’s come and gone and she could come back mid season she could come in in a more limited capacity. I don’t see any reason why she has to not be there all together.
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Sonya, love Sonya love her husband loved the cute family. They didn’t do that much for me on television. They’re nice. They’re normal doesn’t make the best housewife. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with you on that one. Sure. Hey, is cracking me up though watching her on traders, where she is like a deer in headlights versus on Atlanta where she is confident and like, I don’t know. It’s like, just two different sides of Srei. That’s been kind of interesting. I had a follower say to me, maybe that’s her game plan. And I’m like, Girl, this is not a game plan. She doesn’t know where she freakin is. It’s hysterical. I just I love watching her bewilderment. And if she makes it to the end, it’s going to be a riot. Because she doesn’t know where she is. She doesn’t know what show she’s on. No.
He doesn’t thank God features there. At least she has a familiar face. Yeah, exactly. Favorite and fader is definitely watching out for her, which I like to see that too for now until she’s got to kill her. Yeah, right. Okay, in Salt Lake City News. There is there was a picture this week going around on social media of Whitney and Monica. from Salt Lake City filming together.
Sorry to disappoint you guys. That picture is from last season. I mean, I assumed it was and then I had it confirmed we shared in cocktail, that the plan is to proceed without Monica, which is what we’ve heard. And he was careful he worded it as like, let’s give her a minute. I don’t think it’s out of question. That of filming isn’t going well. Or if the new ladies aren’t popping off the screen. They may say screw it and bring her back. That’s all possible. But that’s that’s not the plan. They’re planning to proceed without her. She certainly wouldn’t be filming like the first week. A follower actually sent me somebody who this person said is speaking with production.
She is very wealthy, very chic. She’s an influencer type with 200 plus followers. Let’s see what happens with Salt Lake City. I hope it’s good. Because personally, I understand Monica made a good season. I just I don’t see like how that would happen again. Because yeah, get out to that story is over. Yeah, it is. I think the show also very much wants to move on the Gen shot aftermath to Yes, I listened to Monica interview on two T’s in a pod this week. And I was a little disappointed not in the show but in her because it just seemed like more of the same from her very defensive and then you know, very like lashing out saying the
The only person that she owes an apology to is Jen Shah.
And nobody else, which, you know, just and like just not remorseful, very Sandoval esque in my mind, like a lots of explanations for things that she said that kind of, you know, like when she was like, Yeah, I like the whole thing about production knowing about reality on TV, she’s like, No, what I said is, I was first they first looked at me for season three, I told production when they interviewed me then, but I didn’t get the show. So then I added that, but then when I came on the next season, it was different production. And like, that’s how she cleared up that whole thing. And I’m like, that doesn’t sound right. To me. And that doesn’t also sound like production would have completely turned over from one year to the next. And like not gone back and looked at notes and video from last year. I was like that doesn’t really add up in my mind.
Monica really seems to have it out for Heather gay, like hates her. Well, I think that Heather gay led the charge of making sure she doesn’t come back. And she very much, you know, been banned together with the other women and was a roadblock. I think that Monica needs to let it go. I think that she has a future in reality television. I think we can expect to see her on traders, if not in traders. Villains. Oh, she’s a great villain. She’s a great trader, she’ll she has a future in reality television. It’s not out of the question. I think she needs to stop talking about Bravo knowing and production knowing on large platforms, because I don’t think that’s going to help her. Like, Bravo is clearly mad at you. You didn’t do what you needed to do at the reunion. And he said as much she needed to go there and be apologetic and win people over. I have to imagine she was told that her inability to conform, you know, they want you to be interesting, but they also want you to shut up and listen to their directives when need be. Yeah, go along and get along at some point. So that yeah, because at the end of the day producers, and they’ve said it time and time again. They liked the people who are easy to work with and still make good television. People always say one of Teresa’s strengths is that she’s very easy to work with. From a production standpoint, I think Louis has changed that landscape a little bit. But the other housewives that are easy to work with have longevity. Yes, bring it but also when we tell you okay, you gotta go along with this narrative like, Bravo was a lot of heat. There’s all these people wanting to say they take advantage and the this and the that and for you to then keep coming out on podcasts and saying production new when they’re saying we wouldn’t have hired you if we do. Whether they knew or not shut your mouth if you want to be hired. Yeah. Yeah. She’s not it’s not getting through her skull that she needs to play nice. It’s just not.
Okay, so let’s talk about Vanderpump I feel like one of the standout scenes from this episode was when Sanibel comes into pump sits down with Lisa Vanderpump. He is, you know, the worm is worming like, like Arianna said like he’s kind of a wreck. He is literally yelling at Lisa. Lisa is just kind of trying to help him. And in the conversation, he ends up saying he had thoughts of hurting himself, which of course was very triggering for Lisa, whose brother died of suicide.
I mean, God forbid that. That’s true. He
he was a wreck. That’s a perfect word for it. Yeah. And what I heard from his outburst was he just wants this situation to go away. Where he feels like I said, I’m sorry, I want to move on. I really firmly believe that if he did not have to film this show, which he has to do, because he wants money and he wants to be famous and this is his platform. I think he would be fine with never speaking to any of these people again. Yeah. All about him. Well, wait, he said yes. He said he started but I don’t think anybody believes that he is because he keeps pointing fingers at everybody else. You know, Jean lines. You slept with Kristen and my bed and Sheena you said shit on your podcast and like, just can’t
admit that yeah, he really fucked up and continue to say, yeah, I really fucked up and like leave it at that. Well, this is also coinciding with him filming saying he’s sorry, but then going on stage.
He’s with his band, and changing lyrics to rate rock house hot for me schwarzsee New like all of those things, and like Sheena was like, you’re saying one thing, but then you’re going on stage, it’s being recorded. It’s going viral. And you’re basically like, eff all these people. I don’t care about them. Right. So, you know, he’s made new friends there people he pays which that was great when production when they were like, he’s just around. Yes, people and it’s like, shows the guy it’s like bandmate paid by Sandoval, your band producer paid by Sandoval. Like
he doesn’t care about anyone but himself, period. Yeah, he’s mad because he has to film and be around these people and they won’t move on. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know leases, I think said it quite well.
To him when she said he needs to move on with remorse and could contrition you know this, like, I’m mad at the world. What about all the wrong things done to me attitude will really get to nowhere. And then Schwartz, at Sur invites everyone to Lake Tahoe, which is going to be very interesting, and then snaps at Ariana saying that, you know, it’s all about her ego.
i She I thought she handled it. Well. Him and Tom are basically both saying the same thing enough. Now let’s go back to fun group trips and all that stuff and we’re filming a show. And Schwartz won’t distance himself from Tom because he’s the same as Tom. They don’t care about Ariana or Katie is
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you know, they’re there to film their show. And to be quite honest, Schwartz’s reaction, he seemed agitated and any tries to like to reel it back in when he exposes himself better much better than Sandoval is. You know, it’s the message that I’m getting loud and clear from both Tom’s is Ariana, Katie Sheena and Lala are nothing more than deterrence. And they’re off path and we need to get back on the right. Yeah, go to Lake Tahoe. Let’s find some new girls. Let’s just everybody’s replaceable. Everything is replaceable, because it’s all about us. So what’s the well, I’m liking this season. And I don’t like I’m liking hashing it out. I’m liking seeing where everyone stands. I’m not bored. It does make me realize that like, this is the end like this is we’re wrapping this up. We’re not going to keep having seasons with these same people. They’re clearly over each other. I mean, Sheena and Katie sat down and they were like, listen, we’re cool. But like we no longer want people in our lives who don’t add value, like everybody is has the same. They have different reasons for not wanting to see each other. But they all kind of agree like we’re gonna It’s a fragmented group now. Yeah. And even some of the stuff they’re forcing, like James and Tom Schwartz. EVIC get along on camera, they can move past it. But if there wasn’t a camera there, they never they never voluntarily how Yeah, right. They’re seeing all of that. I don’t think with the exception of Lala. I don’t think James disliked the girls or whatever. But he wouldn’t be calling up Ariana. I mean, let’s call it what it is. Right. So what are they going to do? We’re not going to do what they did in Jersey and film separately. No, bringing in new people they tried that doesn’t work like this shows lightning in a bottle.
Sandoval gave it a second wind. But I think, you know, we have to see the writing on the wall. Yeah, I agree. I think it’s the end of the road, I just don’t see a way past this season for the cast to film together. So we did get something in cocktail that we shared from a source. So here is what the source set looks like the PRS, quote unquote, spin off Valley village will be picked up for another season, because the drama is so good. The network is thrilled with it. And already, it’s already looking like we will get another season. The VPR cast sees the valley as the next step after they bleed, their show dry, and so make sense to me. Yeah, and people are like, Oh, how can a show a Jackson Britney, listen, say what you want about Jax, but he brings it and I hear the rest of the cast brought it. Now will they bring the others on? So just from a budget standpoint, these people will come very expensive, right? Can’t have the ball. Right? Which ones do they pick? Who may assets? Who actually hangs coming out high on your wagon?
Who actually hangs out with Jax and Brittany? Oddly enough, Tom and Tom seem to have made amends with Jax. Do they bring the Tom’s on? Yeah, you know, they have their businesses. I mean, it sucks that you keep rewarding people but this is not you know, this is reality television. This isn’t real life where whatever. Sheena and Lala will try with all their might to get on. I think
I could see Katie not going as hard to get on. She sort of isn’t the type to stoop to be desperate. Yeah, I don’t see where she would fit in. Does she even hang with Kristen anymore? I don’t know. Ariana did come back in the scene kind of after the Ariana thing. So yeah, Ariana, is it really in that clique with Jackson Britney anymore? You know, I can see Sheena getting in there. I could see maybe Lolla getting in there. And I think we could see the Tom’s I am not so sure. I’m seeing. Maybe Tom Schwartz. Maybe? I don’t know. I just think you know, something that it’s hard to say goodbye to yesterday. Right? And we love our Vanderpump Oh, geez.
I don’t know if I if I’m picking.
I would say keep Katie. Although I agree with you. I’m not sure how she fits given you know, she’s not living the, you know, the family. You know, she doesn’t have a family, you know, kids but needed, Kristen.
Yeah, that’s true. I would say keep Lala because I think she just makes great TV, I think, keep Tom Schwartz because even though I personally don’t like him, I think he works pretty well for TV. I guess keep Sheena.
Although I wanted to poke my eyes out after that emo night scene with her. Oh, I have such secondhand embarrassment for her so often. Yes. It’s like, her whole life is like it’s like, Curb Your Enthusiasm. Like you’re just like uncomfortable for her. Yes, that’s that’s very good analogy. By the way. I’m kind of going off kilter here. But did you notice how in the last scene of the show where Tom Sandoval is doing the confessional and talk, you know, talking about their fight his fight with Sheena. And he says she knows friendship is the one that he misses the most. And then he looks down into the right. We have seen him do this before. And you know, in interviews when being asked about Rachel, Raquel, but we know even if we hadn’t seen that before lawyer Craig says, that’s how you can tell someone’s lying.
I think what I’m seeing is
Tom relied so much on Arianna to keep him sane, and to make him not appear as narcissistic as he is. And I think
he misses her friendship the most. And I really think that he, I don’t know needed her in a way. I don’t know how she tolerated him for so long.
Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know. It doesn’t sound like things were so great at home. No, no, it really doesn’t. And it sounds like she put up with a lot of shit. And so when this happened, that’s where the anger comes from. I mean, we said last week, like she found out that he was overcharging her for house expenses before she found out about the cheating.
Like that sounds deceitful. Like there’s so many levels of deceit
that went on. And
hopefully she learns from it. And she’s not attracted to another toxic relationship because she certainly was in one. And I hope she gets therapy for that. Because there is a certain point where you have to take accountability for what you allow in your life and the treatment you accept from your partner. Right? Yeah. So um, can be wrong to a certain point.
But she accepted it, she covered for it. You even like, and I know, we’ve all rewatched you know, Vanderpump. And all this as this is all and you see over the years, how much she covered for him? And how much she tried to talk sense into him and all of these things that you’re kind of like, but why? You could have just left them? Yeah. Like, she knew what she did with Miami girl. Like, there were so many things. I don’t know. I don’t want to victim blame, I really don’t want to come off that way. Yeah. And of course, this is over the course of a decade that these things happened and you get used to somebody, you would I have been in very long term relationships, marriages, and so I understand that you can get so used to somebody that you’re blinded by it. Right? You know, it’s like,
my friend who’s a physician, her daughter had a virus this week. But she’s a doctor, right? Right. And my daughter had a virus. And so she messaged me, and she’s like, Wait, so she had the fever for a week and blow by and she’s like, I know, this sounds ridiculous. Because I’m a frickin doctor. She was, but when it’s your own kid, and they have this virus, even though you’ve tested for everything, and you know, it’s viral, like, you want to talk to another parent. So it’s like, when you’re in it, it’s so hard to make sense of it. I guess. I’m trying to say, yeah. I mean,
I don’t think it was all bad with them, either. And I you know, we also know that Tom has this like, kind of Svengali approach that I think Ariana, you know, was,
I think she liked being the supportive girlfriend and the cool chick girlfriend and the groomsmen in Tom Schwartz wedding. And like, I think that some of that stuff, she really liked being in that role. And I think it’s really hard. You know, and I can speak to this from experience, like when you have been in a situation for a long time, to, to change the way you see yourself right to kind of change, because, you know, your relationship status, when you’ve been in a relationship with somebody for that long, does become like, not your identity, but becomes part of your identity, right. And it’s, you know, who you hang out with, and how you socialize and that kind of thing. And, I mean, that can be a hard, hard to change and heart, just changing the look how hard it is for her like, right? Right, under any circumstances that they broke up. Right? She would have had to still see him still film a show with him, right. And you also wonder how much the show played into it if their relationship would have lasted this long if the show didn’t bind them together. And then like you look at Katie and Tom, who had their struggles after they broke up, but Katie was able to, is the word extricate to take yourself out of it. She was really able to extricate herself from it much more seamlessly. And some of that, and we’ve discussed it is because they were married. They had a post enum, so that really protected both of them. Yeah. And made that kind of stuff easier to deal with the house situation. And it’s right. Yeah. And I totally see what you’re saying. I do. I think there is something really important in what you said about somebody about people needing to take some accountability for what they allowed another person to do to them. Because I personally completely agree with that. And I don’t feel like we’ve seen that from Ariana, and I hope. I hope that we do. I think that’s people’s beef with her because we’re seeing the backlash from the audience. I don’t have a beef with her about it. I don’t I don’t full full term for it. I’m just noticing it right. Yeah. And like I’m saying, as a viewer, how did she put up with him? Because
this isn’t like he doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Right? Who he is, was a part of who they were as a couple.
It’s now standing back from situations gives you a perfect view. Shout out to my boy Jay Z. The second time I’m using that line, two weeks in a row. And so she has the clarity now. So you just hope that you help other people learn
Me too. Yeah, well, and I think it would be nice to see her kind of open the vault a little bit and tell us what she was thinking when Miami girl happened. And when all those times where she and Tom were just like, unified brick wall, it would be nice to kind of know just as fans and viewers, what was really going on behind the scenes, and you remember lighting to lose now. And you remember, like two or three seasons ago, a big focus of her storyline was her mental health. This situation really leads me to believe were part of her mental health struggles. And maybe she didn’t realize it at the time that she was in a relationship with the guy who had these characteristics that were so awful. And so
it affected her mental health. And was she shielding us the audience and her friends and family from it? Or was she not even aware that how and who he was was contributing to it? Yeah. Because it’s not two separate things. Yes, somebody can struggle with struggle with mental health and depression. But in her case, it very It’d be impossible for it not to be late. Right. And a bad situation can make something that’s not good. Worse. Right? Yeah. All right. Interesting that.
So you know, we’re saying it’s over. And we don’t need them filming together anymore. But here we are. All of us collectively still watching and still intrigued. So I don’t know. Maybe there is more life in them. I’m excited for Valley village. I think it’s gonna be cool. I hear there’s a lot of drama. We hear it’s already greenlit for a second season. Yeah, and I think it’s kind of fun to see some of the relatable stuff, you know, and and Brittany said this, like that, there will be moments where if you’re a parent, that you will completely identify with what they’re going through, right? Like, I you know, a kid who is second, you can’t go to an event or, you know, your babysitter falls through or all the little, or you know, your kid, this literally happened to me, by the way, and my son was two. And we are I was at a dinner party at my mom’s house. And he dropped something and goes shit.
I was like, I look around the table. I got I had like, everything it was like because it could have gone either way. And people could have been totally horrified. Or Or they could have laughed and they laugh, you know, but Right. And like, of course, they all look at me because like, they know where that comes from. And it’s a two year old doesn’t just come up with the word shit on their own. Right. I mean, yes, we’ve we’ve, if you haven’t been there, good for you. But I’ve been there. I think most of us have been there. There’s so much. Yeah, guys, if you’re listening to this, and you’re feeling like it’s a little few days behind. It is because Amanda and I are both currently away. It is February break. And we didn’t want to leave you without a pod. We have never skipped a week and we’re quite proud of this. Yes. So
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